Should I Take NVIDIA Back? Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti Review
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:53 What even is a 3080 Ti?
2:14 Test setup & gaming results
3:24 Productivity results
4:54 Thermals & power
6:16 Nvidia's rationale & new attitude
8:06 Pricing
8:28 It's $1,199
8:39 Hashrate limiter
9:55 Conclusion
@Citrussek 2 роки тому
"At significantly lower price!" Nvidia: Yeah... about that...
@conturnplayscounturn6911 2 роки тому
can't wait to spend 2000$ for a gpu!
@fireared9244 2 роки тому
@@conturnplayscounturn6911 can't wait to buy the 3060 for 3k
@Homiesexual69 2 роки тому
Well that was a lie...
@geraldbal7945 2 роки тому
oof
@repkins 2 роки тому
@@conturnplayscounturn6911 To play small indie games and watching movies.
@pogtuber5146 2 роки тому
This is a very strange conclusion compared to everyone else's conclusion, which is... this is a waste of money for the performance gain. edit: To be clear I don't think Linus is a shill, I think he's coming at this from a different perspective, it's just strange to see him go from criticizing nVidia cash grabs with the crypto cards and then ignoring that in this analysis.
@21preend42 2 роки тому
In comparison with a 3090 it is a bargain. Also if you were to sell the card you will probably double your money.
@bgtubber 2 роки тому
@@21preend42 Yea, the key words here are "in comparison". Because none of these 2 cards make any sense for gaming when 3080 costs half the money and is practically just as fast.
@comradesandwich9437 2 роки тому
@@21preend42 and contribute to the market of outrageously priced GPU’s, great idea.
@NathansAirsoftAnd3D 2 роки тому
shot before msrp reveal. did you watch the video?
@pogtuber5146 2 роки тому
@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D that's fine, but the video was released after the MSRP reveal.
@Caphalem 2 роки тому
Let's talk about price without knowing the price. That's a good idea!
@jonlaw16 2 роки тому
Yeah this is a absolute trash way to review something. LTT has shown that they don't care about their reviews. Their reviews are so sloppy compared to other tech channels. Simply editing in a 1 second prerecorded face reaction to the price is not good enough. If Nvidia had come in with the 3080Ti at $1400, would this review have been the same? What if they came in a $800? Price is extremely important. LTT is great for entertaining videos on new and unique tech. It has become really bad for actual reviews of products.
@EnoughBody 2 роки тому
what are you guys talking about, the rtx 3080 ti is way lower price than the 3090, in my country the rtx 3090 is 29 thousand reais, the 3080 ti is 14 thousand '-'
@Isamu1013 2 роки тому
@@jonlaw16 Or you know they tell you what you need to know about the product itself and you decide if it is worth it depending on the price. The tech channels shouldn't decide for you they should give you the tools to make the decision yourself. Especially now where price is fluctuating so much that msrp is absolutely pointless information. I know know that the 3080ti is a good card, I know how she compares to other offerings on the market and I can based on that in consideration of my own economic standing decide at what price I buy one if at all.
@tooitchy 2 роки тому
Nvidia changed the msrp from 1000$ to 1200$ immediately prior to release, reviewers were under the impression it was going to be $1000. Either way, people need to stop whining about price, GPU's have been selling, a lot, at over double their MSRP, complain about scalpers all you want, but manufacturers have raised their prices significantly, and they're still getting scooped up and resold at huge markups, meaning MSRP is nowhere close to fair for these cards. Does it suck? Fuck yes, but that's literally how the market works, it's supply and demand. Demand exceeds supply, significantly, therefore the ONLY solution to the disparity is to raise the price to find equilibrium. 1200$ for the 3080ti sounds absurd, but if you look at the market, it's being scalped for significantly lower markup than the rest of the lineup, meaning it is not selling at as high of a markup, MEANING the 1200$ price is far, far closer to "correct" for the market conditions, than the 3080, and 3090.
@Isamu1013 2 роки тому
@@tooitchy I found a store that had some cards in store as they adjust pricing depending on how many cards they have left. Funny thing was that the 3080 ti is cheaper than the 3080 there.
@jacobthecreator1551 2 роки тому
"At a much lower price" Retails for $1199
@cecrambler 2 роки тому
but it is... assuming a 3090 MSRP is close to $1500 this is 80% of of the price for nearly identical performance. --- - compared to the 3080 it's a much higher price.... .. .. I think not enough people are comparing it to both cards.
@maccy2601993 2 роки тому
@@cecrambler You compare it to the 3080, not the 3090, which makes it utter shit value.
@moist_ointment 2 роки тому
@@maccy2601993 why compare it to the 3080? 3080's are going for about $2K rn. These are going for $2200, and 3090s are going for close to $3K. If you can get one of these at $1200, it's a better deal than any 3080 because there are no $700 3080s
@moist_ointment 2 роки тому
@@maccy2601993 yeah, the 380ti isn't worth that little. Market dictates value, and the market has spoken. These cards are worth over $2000 given current supply and demand.
@xmun0360 2 роки тому
I wish. That's cheaper than what 3060's are going for here in Australia.
@QuiteLunacy 2 роки тому
"This is Nvidia's apology or No brainer buy even at $1200" Bro what? Amping up this card before you knew the actual price of it and STILL posting it even with the small update mid video? Not too sure about this one, Linus.
@bk_Syndicate_FL850KH 2 роки тому
You don’t get it, hype the 3080ti and actually buy the 3080 if everyone one wants latest and greatest you can sneak in and get what you actually want
@dextherion1 2 роки тому
And $2000 to 2500 for aib
@nipa5961 2 роки тому
Very disappointing, both from Linus and Nvidia.
@nipa5961 2 роки тому
@@Ren33469 I tend to disagree. Linus usually calls out bad products or business practices by any company. E.g. he rightfully dumped Nvidia for their mining cards announcement earlier this year or when they blacklisted harbor unboxed. This "review" here is really terrible though.
@no-trick-pony 2 роки тому
classic Linus, what can you say.
@nosranro 2 роки тому
for 70% more money, you get 10% performance increase.
@O8532732 2 роки тому
Money is irrelevant when it’s only hypothetical that a product is on the market. 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@pickleman5609 2 роки тому
3090-3080=10
@BradJohannsen 2 роки тому
True. But it's also 20% less cost for roughly the same performance as a 3090.
@joemarais7683 2 роки тому
@@BradJohannsen if only the 3090 didn't have the worst price to performance and only exists for rich streamers.
@johndrewiv3999 2 роки тому
@@BradJohannsen damned if you do buy and damned if you dont
@deadbzeus 2 роки тому
It's disappointing how out of touch LTT has become, this was one of the of tech channels
@evolicious 2 роки тому
Linus put too much money into his business and created a media company, and now he needs revenue stream from a dying platform that he relies on. So he hires people that can generate clicks and tiktok trash videos to make his revenue of clout cash and keep the lights on. Instead of downsizing and reassessing his income, he doubles-down on the garbage content that relies on 9-13 year olds to click, like, sub, and buy merch. Which is exactly how we got into this mess of unethical shitty social media platforms that bank on halfwits to buy into lies and spend their money on overpriced crap. Welcome to 2021. Go sub GN and unsub LTT (and all their affiliates).
@Frank-li8uj 2 роки тому
@@evolicious ohhhhh you mad mad 😂
@samwise8731 2 роки тому
I can't wait for the next two new GPUs from NVIDIA: the 3090 Ti and 3095 Titan X, which are 1% and 2% faster than 3080 Ti respectively.
@MarioMastr 2 роки тому
And 100% and 200% more expensive respectively
@timothygibney159 2 роки тому
Boy did your comment aged like wine 10 months later 😅
@maxpower_891 2 роки тому
@@timothygibney159 и он был прав
@connor3384 Рік тому
@@timothygibney159 i dont understand what happened
@B.D.E. Рік тому
@@timothygibney159 yup he was right lol
@dawkosvk 2 роки тому
Every other reviewer "DONT BUY THIS, WASTE OF MONEY" meanwhile at LTT "NO BRAINER"
@GlennChambers 2 роки тому
Fanboy I guess.
@denkt 2 роки тому
Linus was focusing on comparing it with the 3090, which is already terrible value, and as if the 3080 didn't exist.
@SchwertKruemel 2 роки тому
well if you can actually get it for 1200 its a great deal compared to anything else on the market right now
@herrpauk 2 роки тому
He trashed Nvidia yesterday, but its nice to have money coming in from different sources.
@GainingDespair 2 роки тому
Everything is an insignificant amount when you are a millionaire, but seriously though, Linus was joking, it's just a joke we are too poor to understand is all =/
@amandasantini6265 2 роки тому
All other major reviewers' thumbnails/titles: "Try Harder, NVIDIA" ; "A Card Nobody asked for" ; "Waste of Money, robbed blind". Linus' title: lol
@coralinealgae 2 роки тому
6:59 Linus made a decent point that nvidia should be able to manufacture many more of these than the 3090 simply due to the 50% cut in vRAM. If their goal is higher production, that would help a bit to deal with the crippling shortages.
@amandasantini6265 2 роки тому
@@coralinealgae This card is still useless. It costs 71% more than the 3080 (sometimes it's 100% more, mind you) but only has 2-10% in performance gains in gaming. And in 3D applications (my professional area) it's also useless *exactly because of the 50% less VRAM than the 3090%*.
@Marshy2020 2 роки тому
Linus was focusing on comparing it with the 3090, which is already terrible value, and as if the 3080 didn't exist.
@dragonking2849 2 роки тому
@@coralinealgae And as he said, that is assuming there are enough GPU chips to go around. Now nvidia is also manufacturing the new CMP series and they are not going to reduce the production of any of the 3000 series already in production probably. And 1G vram chips are much more easy to acquire. Its just 2GB more vRAM than a 3080. The 3080Ti is not a performance slouch, its great, but at what cost?? And as Linus pointed out so few people bought the 2080Ti, and the 3080Ti is again for the few people who has enough disposable income to spend.
@m1l3s27 2 роки тому
He really do be sucking up to Jenson more recently lmao.
@eemanemm 2 роки тому
"Is this video an out of season April's fool joke?"
@muntedewok 2 роки тому
These went on sale for $2799 in Australia last night. I had an MSI 3080ti in my cart, allocated, ready to buy, but I couldn't justify the $800 premium over the 3080 with only a 7-10% performance increase. What you've said in the video is mostly correct about performance and stock availability for manufacture, but your recommendation of this card for the price increase vs performance is an absolute meme.
@Denso481 2 роки тому
"no brainer" is the wording he used, I believe 😂
@KindOldRaven 2 роки тому
Honestly I think Linus just got hung up on the fact that it's basically a cheaper more efficient 3090 for 99% of use cases. Having said that, I agree. The only reason I bought one myself is because the FE in a local drop here was priced the same as basic-model 3080s cost when in stock in the stores here.
@brandon8384 2 роки тому
Recommending this over the 3080 is stupid but nvidia want to show that they could beat amd for almost the same price also they were targeting people who were thinking of buying a 3090 for gaming
@primalfear83 2 роки тому
Ah.... the tone difference, compared with Gamers Nexus is almost amusing to contrast the 2 reviews :p
@austinbrown6923 2 роки тому
came here for this comment
@w04h 2 роки тому
He didn't know the price... but yeah it's Linus. He's the kind of guy to recommend 3090 to play minecraft
@AlanyxCross 2 роки тому
@@w04h its coming down to their viewpoints, one is 3080 vs 3080 ti, other is 3080 ti vs 3090. Just different sides from the same coin. Both reviews are great depending on your needs. This is great vs the 3090, absolute trash vs the 3080. I don't think price would have changed Linus's views here
@cheesefries7436 2 роки тому
@@w04h Then they shouldn't have published this video knowing full well they were missing a big part of the puzzle.
@matthewwebb7921 2 роки тому
Yea I agree, after seeing gamersnexus......I can't help but feel skeptical.....its almost like they are complete polar opposites!
@BWTodd 2 роки тому
"when compared to the 3090, it's a winner" ... Okay, you forgot the part where you say, but when compared to the 3080, you are paying 70% more for less than 10% more performance, and so just like the 3090, it is a terrible value proposition, just slightly not as bad.
@EarthB00 2 роки тому
3090 actually has tons of VRAM for the price. Very good for professional work or doing compute. This is shit by comparison.
@DeffecX 2 роки тому
Can't believe this video by Linus. Feels like he sold he soul.
@MannoMars 2 роки тому
if i didn't find out that nvidia was ltt's parent company i would be more annoyed than i am now
@abrahamko7044 2 роки тому
@@MannoMars what are you talking about?
@vertexgaming1886 2 роки тому
@@abrahamko7044 I think he for got a /s and is referring to LTT's old April fools video.
@Ristogod 2 роки тому
At least Steve's review was honest.
@MichaelBroschek 2 роки тому
it's the one time I'm happy not to have waited on a TI
@evolicious 2 роки тому
Thinking LTT can be honest is like thinking pepsi can be cokacola.
@dete503 2 роки тому
@@evolicious That's not a good comparison because both Pepsi and Coke are garbage drinks from garbage companies.
@hjr2000 2 роки тому
@@evolicious How is LTT dishonest?
@Volker_A4 2 роки тому
I'm just watching the 3080 numbers and thinking there's zero chance in hell those 12 fps are worth 50% more.
@JarrodsTech 2 роки тому
Ah yes, the 3090 Max-Q
@SoMega1 2 роки тому
Yes jarrod
@fireared9244 2 роки тому
Haha
@myboah4764 2 роки тому
Hi verified
@suchirghuwalewala 2 роки тому
Why the Max Q tho ?
@ChocolatePaint 2 роки тому
wow you were here FAST 😂
@selohcin 2 роки тому
"The Scalpocalypse isn't going to last forever", Linus says. Maybe not, but by the time this is over, the 4000 series will already be out. The 3080 Ti will never be available at MSRP at any time during the next year.
@obscurumveri5962 2 роки тому
EVGA queue baby, our only hope.
@Aleph-Noll 2 роки тому
even if it doesn't last forever its effects will. msrp is a joke and we are already seeing the consistent inflated prices
@admingeneral6532 2 роки тому
@@obscurumveri5962 I think I signed up for that queue in December. It's June and nothing...
@super_hero2 2 роки тому
Let's hope for crypto crash, then people start to panic sell Nvidia card :))
@Cloudrak 2 роки тому
@@super_hero2 but it did?
@maxinecantspeak 2 роки тому
How can I trust LTT ever again after this train wreck?
@Son37Lumiere 2 роки тому
You can't, nor should you ever have. Linus has been an nvshill for a very long time.
@dirkjefferson6202 2 роки тому
Its been a slippery slope with LTT for the last 12-18months. this was the cliff.
@PaulHofreiter 2 роки тому
Simple - you can’t. And you shouldn’t have before this because unbiased “reviews” are long gone.
@yahallo4423 2 роки тому
Bruh you shouldn't watch a review for the trust value though. Reviews have 2 main things, data and opinions (interpretation of data). If the data is correct it should be verifiable with other reviewers, and the interpretation of it you should be able to see if they are consistent, have flaws or if it's illogical. You can even ignore their opinions fully since you can do the thinking for yourself if the data is provided. Trust in this context is irrelevant and unnecessary. If they release a product however... I'd probably perceive it with a negative bias since they've lost touch of their target audience.
@nightrider6102 2 роки тому
So over dramatic. Lmao
@nedkelly1855 2 роки тому
Let’s be clear, this is not a review it’s an advert. A little disappointing but not unexpected 😔
@hugheverett8056 2 роки тому
Impressively stupid take
@natereynolds5233 2 роки тому
No it isn't. He has been shitting on Nvidia the past 2 months. he isn't being paid. He isn't even saying the card is a good value, it's only a good value compared to the 3090 which is $1500
@TekMerc 2 роки тому
GNSteve: Waste of money Linus: It's a winner! Hrmm, who to believe.
@GHZZZ1 2 роки тому
Steve
@ventusluca 2 роки тому
Yeah I also just watched both shortly after each other, that was weird.
@ElZamo92 2 роки тому
Steve is WAY more reliable. Linus is pure show and is mostly disconnected from reality.
@brutalwang4106 2 роки тому
You need to ask who to believe?
@phantomax 2 роки тому
gamers nexus all the way when it comes to anything regarding consumerism and buy recommendations
@aperson7624 2 роки тому
"Hi, I'm Linus. Let me release a video saying this is better, faster, cheaper, without actually knowing that, because my work pipeline is so long I'd be last to the pack if I didn't." Quit being a clown. Take the extra hours to know data, then make the video, then release it. Goodness.
@DINO_X65 2 роки тому
nah, he probably knew the price, he sold out to nvidia, guess this is what money does to a person, and his videos have been getting more clickbaity, too bad, his videos used to be good
@mannyc19 2 роки тому
Linus is too busy flushing what remains of his journalistic ethics down the toilet at nVIDIA HQ.
@juracan8591 2 роки тому
Steve at Gamers Nexus does way more in depth testing and they waited until they knew the price (as any reviewer with integrity would do) before reviewing it and STILL released it on time. Since they were still able to sneak in that clip about him reacting to the price, I don't see why he couldn't have waited like an hour or two to make the video.
@evolicious 2 роки тому
But he makes more money doing it this way and the army of children that sub here are the real audience. LTT doesn't care about facts, they are here to sell you. Stop watching LTT, ffs.
@Chris-tf7gi Рік тому
Have to say I'm really liking the 3080 TI that I bought in July 2022, new, well below MSRP. Yes, I waited. Don't care that there will be something new soon that will almost certainly cost more. There's always something new coming out. My 3080 TI will probably be in my system for 5 years.
@ironeagle1462 Рік тому
bought mine on prime day for $850 XD
@MsNellyuan Рік тому
@@ironeagle1462 bought my rog strix 3080 ti oc a week ago . It is kicking the butt of my previous 3090 FE in games .
@TharinduPerera97 Рік тому
@@MsNellyuan :O
@TharinduPerera97 Рік тому
@Neoand12 I got a 3070ti today instead, needed money for a new case and mobo, power supply or definitely would’ve got the 3080ti its good price rn
@ajlainez1944 Рік тому
Same, not a 3080 ti I bought a rtx 3060 ti but I can see it being in my system till it can’t provide performance I’m not happy with it which just estimating with be mostly likely 3-4 years from now but it so far has me beyond happy.
@AstraMilitarumFodder 2 роки тому
This is another Tom's Hardware take coming from Linus... "JUST BUY IT"
@randalldraco3822 2 роки тому
It just works
@evolicious 2 роки тому
64 TIMES MORE DETAIL
@redlinemx2879 2 роки тому
@@randalldraco3822 like King Crimson.
@ELGG1894 2 роки тому
@@redlinemx2879 if you think king crimson is confusing just wait until you get to D4C
@DoctorX17 2 роки тому
I have to agree with GN... The ~10% higher performance for 70% higher MSRP is insane. So unless you can get one around the price of a 3080... Nuts
@illiji915 2 роки тому
top end cards are always less performance per $ of cost. Stop comparing the performance per dollar with the lesser cards. this is a 3090 for gamers that don't need the 24gb of video memory which means paying less for almost the same gaming performance as the 3090
@MushfiqueBinHossain 2 роки тому
@@illiji915 but this will be an expensive paperweight in 2 years, when they release a 300$ card that's much better than this :\ unless u have the money to buy high-end on release every release cycle. And i mean you have that much disposable income on the regular, buying high end cards is a total and uttter waste of money, definitely not a "no-brainer".
@MR-vg7yn 2 роки тому
I'm sorry, but that's just a foregone conclusion and adds absolutely no information whatsoever. _Every_ high end product ever in the hardware market has been this way. Yes, it's true that the price-performance-ratio is terrible... but if "bang for your buck" is what you're interested in, you're looking at the wrong hardware tier anyway.
@f-22raptor25 2 роки тому
@@illiji915 more like a little more than a year. Rtx 4000 will probably come out Aug 2022
@illiji915 2 роки тому
@@f-22raptor25 either way, the current market price for the 3080 isn't $700, it's $900+. So ya, if the Ti launched at the same time, maybe it's priced poorly but right now? I think it's pretty spot on
@CHEFPKR 2 роки тому
Can't wait to not be able to find this either.
@GoldstarVFX 2 роки тому
CHEFPK whacha doin here? go make some food wars food irl, i need some recipes :)
@Xfade81 2 роки тому
Luckily this has never been said before.
@CHEFPKR 2 роки тому
@@GoldstarVFX I need a new card for all of the Ecchi goodness
@StovieFromBama 2 роки тому
Same
@renatomandellidemello6589 2 роки тому
you are everywhere!!
@biogopher 2 роки тому
Amazing that you can put the 3080 and the TIE on screen and not compare the two and ask "is this worth another $500?"
@gonzo9769 2 роки тому
He knows exactly what he's doing,this video proves that he's just a shill who will take money to mislead his audience. This clown makes a ridiculous amount of money as it is,but he wants more so he lies to his audience for a check from huge companies like Nividia.
@probablykeen 2 роки тому
@@gonzo9769 Pretty sure he mentioned it was because the specs are basically the same, about.... 3-4 times? not that hard to miss. He should have mentioned more of the 3080, but he was going for a more direct comparison. I like how you call him a clown when hes probably more educated in these matters than 95% of the ppl in these comments
@LiberatasOmnium 2 роки тому
This was obviously recorded well in advance, far too optimistic.
@michaelcorcoran8768 2 роки тому
Yeah but unfortunately that doesn't explain away his explanation of the take which was even worse.
@mnk47 2 роки тому
GTX 1080ti = 1080 + 35% RTX 3080ti = 3080 + 5% 1/7 of the increase in preformance for 6 times the increase in price
@loneventhorizon 2 роки тому
Exactly. The way eveyone behaved over this launch just makes me sad for the human race.
@gurjindersingh3843 2 роки тому
RTX 3080Ti = RTX 2080Ti + 33% for same price RTX 2080Ti = GTX 1080Ti + 30% for 70% higher price RX 6700XT = RX 5700XT + 28% for 20% higher price 3080Ti is clearly a good improvement.
@joselito8226 2 роки тому
Its not like you can buy a 3080 msrp and partners now sell from 900 to 1k.
@MagNovax 2 роки тому
@@gurjindersingh3843 Based on generation jump, sure. But if you're upgrading from a 2080 ti, why do a 3080 tj when there is a 3080 that's $400 less and only a 7% difference in performance?
@uncelesteperro8258 2 роки тому
@@gurjindersingh3843 "Wow, someone just dropped 500 dollars in front of me! how silly! now, I will be able to get the 3080 Ti instead of the pesky 3080, and have 5 more fps on cs:go than with the normal 3080!"
@darthku1408 2 роки тому
10% uplift + 2gb of vram = 70% uplift in price above the 3080 non Ti. Yah' that makes sense sounds like a good deal. WTF Linus?
@NathansAirsoftAnd3D 2 роки тому
shot before msrp reveal. did you watch the video?
@darthku1408 2 роки тому
@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D No, he compared it the 3090 which is true it is a better deal, but he did not mention how it's $500(US) more than the 3080 for 10% uplift in performance. That's a 70% price hike for 10% performance.That is a shit deal. He frowned on the price no price to performance.
@darthku1408 2 роки тому
@WolfsBane It's called sarcasm. It's a shit deal.
@zelkuta 2 роки тому
@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D Making a review for the card before the price is revealed is fucking stupid. Linus and corp shat the bed on this review. The card is a horrible value.
@Thohean 2 роки тому
This card at MSRP only makes sense if you were already planing to waste your money on a scalped card AND you actually can find one at MSRP to buy.
@ratykat 2 роки тому
Feels a little blind that this was done before knowing the price.
@evolicious 2 роки тому
It was intentional to generate them most clicks and make the most money. LTT are about generating revenue, they don't care about educating their audience. You watching a channel of product marketing and clickbait tiktok videos, not a tech channel.
@MusicForHourss 2 роки тому
I am the only one that still thinks paying more then 500 dollars on a graphics card is insane?
@RobGogs 2 роки тому
@muhammad amir just be sure to mine on it to make it even cheaper
@Lightn0x 2 роки тому
Depends on your income. For some people, 500 usd is really not a lot.
@eagle7015 2 роки тому
Not alone
@fluid318 2 роки тому
I just want a beast pc for 1500 but the scalpers are bullying me
@pootinplays 2 роки тому
mine is around $600 but I feel that same, these prices are laughable.
@TheNXT2204 2 роки тому
Compared to the 3080 though a $500 price markup doesn’t justify the extra 10%-15% performance increase
@nunosanches3693 2 роки тому
its not 15% performance increase btw , its actualy lower more like 8% , its just a cash grab 1080ti was half the price of the 3080ti msrp , but now everyone thinks that 1200$ is a good price ? they are all brainwashed ...
@0xszander0 2 роки тому
Yeah but Linus rather stays being buddies with nvidia's pr department.
@Perceivedshift 2 роки тому
@@nunosanches3693 Dunno if they are brainwashed when the value of the dollar has literally tanked because we keep printing money like its out of style.
@danielredziniak2996 2 роки тому
@@Perceivedshift so it tanked since 2018 when the 2080 ti was 1200? Not so much
@johnbuscher 2 роки тому
@@danielredziniak2996 I mean, did you see how much the government was spending then? Even back then, government was printing more money than we budgeted and was already spending trillions. It's just getting even worse with MORE being printed, chip shortages and newer development procedures and dies that are expensive to produce anyhow. There's a bunch of features added on, new things that are free to all RTX cards like nVidia Studio, DLSS, and the software development costs will alsp drive price do they can, y'know, develop their drivers.
@rigoric5496 2 роки тому
After I've watched a single video from Gamers Nexus years ago, I started watching GN videos instead but still keeping an eye for interesting LTT uploads. I always liked the honest-in-depth review/research videos from GN, unlike the "Bribed Quality Content" like this one.
@underheavenunderheaven8446 2 роки тому
The video misses a tag “Included paid Promotion" 3080TI is being sold for 4k$ USD and you can buy 6900XT for 2k$ USD with that information do the comparison again.
@supersop1367 2 роки тому
Tell me where u find any card going for 4K usd I’m in the US and the highest cards Go for is a 3090 for 2000$
@underheavenunderheaven8446 2 роки тому
@@supersop1367 Do you realize that my comment is 1 month old? And at that time price for 3080TI was 4k$ USD in my country and 3090 went for 5k$ (tax inc.) 6900XT went for 2k$. Atm 6900XT still goes for 2k$, 3080TI 2.2k$ and 3090 goes for 3.5k$
@dosko9980 2 роки тому
"no brainer at msrp" this card costs literally 1200$. Nearly twice as much as an rtx 3080 and 200$ more than the 6900xt. This is beyond scamming. I can find a 6900xt on the used market for 1300. I honestly expected a price of 950, just to flex on AMDs offering. Guess I'm delusional. Well fewer standard 3080s for us
@benjaminoechsli1941 2 роки тому
In a market where supply even remotely met demand, it would. This is just a way to make $300 of extra profit. Would I do the same in Nvidia's shoes? I like to think I wouldn't, but it makes a lot of business sense. It's going to get bought anyway, why not sell it with half the vram at a slight discount?
@markusgutjahr7489 2 роки тому
@@benjaminoechsli1941 No it doesn´t. Not from a market reputation point of view, especially if your big "leads" DLSS and RTX are allready copied (albeit less efficient) by the competition. But hey, Nvidia gives a crap about reputation, just like they give a crap about their non-business customers.
@TheHalfBorg 2 роки тому
I see it different. Crypto miners are financing a lot of research for RTX 4000 which is going to be awesome and totally worth the wait
@dosko9980 2 роки тому
It does in the short run, but not in the long run. Customer loyalty might suffer in the future. More so if AMD closes the tech gap in regards to DLSS and raytracing. They dont even have to fully catch up to be more attractive.
@staz3014 2 роки тому
@@TheHalfBorg Nah, Jensen uses 50% of the money to expand his leather jacket collection.
@vrrdragon 2 роки тому
I fail to see how this is Nvidia being more receptive? They literally ignored what everyone wanted, which is more mid-range GPU stock, and went ahead and released a niche high-end card which most consumers wouldnt buy in the first place...
@R3BootYourMind 2 роки тому
If memory availability was limiting their ability to make rtx 3090 this should in theory make it possible for nvidia to make more money. If everything they produce sells anyways they are always going to make more of the product that makes them the most money.
@vrrdragon 2 роки тому
@@R3BootYourMind I dont see how thats relevant to my comment? Linus implied they were being more receptive to the community, they just arent.
@dm7g 2 роки тому
These are still going to sell out fast. From a business stand point it makes sense.
@nicholasmitchell6025 2 роки тому
@@R3BootYourMind "in theory" This is not a standard supply and demand model. The reason graphics cards are low on stock is the relative unavailability of GDDR6X and GPUs on new process nodes. Fabs take years to make, it's not like they can just pay for increased production. There's only so much supply, and Nvidia is putting it towards outrageously expensive cards they know consumers will be forced to buy if they want horsepower. Nvidia is making money off of the backs of scammed consumers, and the fact Linus is praising them for it is disgusting.
@ventzp2133 2 роки тому
@@TheZenytram Who was expecting mid ranged cards with 3090 performance?
@MadMaxBLD 2 роки тому
[12 GB of VRAM] "should help keep the pricing down". Yeah, that went well. Linus, this video wasn't worth watching at all. MSRP and retail pricing is THE metric to pay attention to, not tech specs. You shot yourself in the foot with this one. GamersNexus started with the price question and then told us not to waste our time!
@bunsenn5064 2 роки тому
Then again, it’s not like your average consumer is going to spend money on a 3080 ti regardless.
@windblownleaf6450 2 роки тому
Ah, yes. The RTX 3080 Ti. Note that 'Ti' here stands for 'Tiny Improvement'
@NicWir 2 роки тому
Its Thai not Ti
@zwiebl 2 роки тому
Linus: 3080ti is a winner Steve: waste of time and money
@ahmed9982 2 роки тому
you forgot to include sand
@DINO_X65 2 роки тому
linus is just a sell out
@SilentCheechGaming1991 2 роки тому
I go by hardware unboxed and gamers nexus at this point, much more reliable source of information and as far as I know they aren't taking bribes and kickbacks from nvidia unlike LLT
@con7rl670 2 роки тому
GN Steve had a radically different approach than Linus. I agree with Steve, this is a waste of money. I think it's crazy that LTT called it a "no-brainer", even at MSRP. It's marginally better than a 3080 and has half of the 3090's memory.
@stokemoran 2 роки тому
Is Ting the sponsor for this video or Nvidia? Cause it sounds like Nvidia...
@joshjohnson8584 2 роки тому
Linus is a damn sell out quit watching him. He is a weak man who cares about nothing but keeping the people who make him money happy.
@rawhide_kobayashi 2 роки тому
just remember that the 3080 FE MSRP is totally irrelevant now. retailers are selling higher end 3080s for over $1000 (including at the VAG program). wipe that $700 price tag from your mind.
@galigon3812 2 роки тому
@@joshjohnson8584 Nvidia didn’t tell him the MSRPs for the cards when this was shot.
@DzinkyDzink 2 роки тому
Does it even matter to YOU? Are you the member of 2% club? Then why the fuck do you care if it costs $800 or $1200 or $2000?
@MsNellyuan Рік тому
At below MSRP , this card is a really good choice now . Pick up one of those ASUS Tuf OC or Strix OC , both perform extremely well and matches the 3090 in almost every aspect beside vram. If you got the good Variant it is @ 12-15% ahead of the RTX 3080 .
@monkeywithocd 2 роки тому
Finally got one of these (EVGA) from the Newegg shuffle. Got to say, in the current day *any* card is worth it at MSRP.
@evankupec8495 2 роки тому
“When the scalper dust finally settles,” the top of the line cards will be the rtx4080ti and the amd 10,000 GPU
@DrakkarCalethiel 2 роки тому
Probably, scapling won't end until at least end of this year. And until the prices come anywhere near MSPR, the 4000 series is just around the corner
@ballsofplastic 2 роки тому
@@DrakkarCalethiel 4000 series will come around 2022 ~ 2023
@DrakkarCalethiel 2 роки тому
@@ballsofplastic Yeah, my guess is q4 22 to end Q1 23.
@ballsofplastic 2 роки тому
@@DrakkarCalethiel I'm assuming it'll come out 3/2022 ~ 11/2022 tbh
@DrakkarCalethiel 2 роки тому
@@ballsofplastic Highly doubt that NV pushes the 4000 series cards out before Q4 22. But hey, who knows, maybe we get the new series pretty early.
@denkt 2 роки тому
OK, except that the 3090 was terrible value in the first place and this having an MSRP that is >70% more than that of the 3080 for a
@denkt 2 роки тому
@@AndersHass Before the video was uploaded, he was very well aware what the price was, yet did not change his conclusion. Even for $1000 (which was what the expected price was), it's bad value.
@HellGatefr2 2 роки тому
@@leolego2 Remember the 1080 Ti ?
@SigmaMale42069 2 роки тому
@@leolego2 it atleast gave you a decent performance uplift, this doesn't
@CreamPolo 2 роки тому
Linus got wealth and he is loosing contact with reality. Good price ?
@dete503 2 роки тому
losing*
@CreamPolo 2 роки тому
@@dete503 Thank You :)
@krabis85 2 роки тому
Why is there no switch in Nvidia drivers or option to rewrite the BIOS to switch half of 3090 VRAM off? It would reduce heat and allow to cores boost more often for gaming.
@sic22l 2 роки тому
So it's 10% faster with 20% more VRAM for mere 71% price increase. I'm disappointed in you Linus.
@dudeanderson2401 2 роки тому
Do you need him to hold your hand and tell you what to do with your life? He didn’t even know what the cards cost was when the video was filmed
@cin2110 2 роки тому
@@dudeanderson2401 Other tech reviewers with 1-5 people working on their videos all posted their reviews in time with more benchmarks and details and they considered the price too how is Linus Media Group with 50 people can't do the same Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed and Bitwit (who made the video on his own btw) did it in time they all have more detail and they all incorparated the price in their reviews this is a big fuck up stop making excuses for LMG.
@maxview99 2 роки тому
🤫 Everything just works, just buy it
@TheKaustubh0000 2 роки тому
@@dudeanderson2401 so what? Gamers nexus put out a 20 min video with more details AFTER knowing the price. Linus has a 100 times bigger team than GN
@nunyabusiness4651 2 роки тому
I agree, Gamer Nexis said it all... Don't bother.!
@eatyofacen00b 2 роки тому
Aaaaaaand we've reached the point where LTT becoming so big has come to fruition. Calling a $1200 card a "good prospect" when it's only 7-13% better than the 3080... which is 70% cheaper.... I kinda hope that they go back to shilling vacuums.
@riguor9876 2 роки тому
at 0:24 they put "this video was shot before NVIDIA revealed the MSRP" They probably ASSUMED it was going to be a good value, but then NVIDIA did the price reveal and dated the video before it ever came out
@yogi30303 2 роки тому
Didn't you see his reaction to the price? He expected it to release at $999, he clearly said that in the video. Also, why are you comparing it to 3080 and not 3090, which starts at $1500.
@DJ5540 2 роки тому
@@yogi30303 3090 is already dog water in terms of value. Framing this card as faster than the 3090 in games while being cheaper ignores that it's only 10% faster than a 3080 at 70% price increase. Here's a tip, don't review a product if you don't know its price
@willo1345 2 роки тому
@@yogi30303 Why make a video about it if he didn't know the price? It's a pretty important bullet point to fuck up. And why would it be compared to another waste of money for gamers instead of something with actual good value? Congratulations, marketing speak has bamboozled you.
@ScarletKomi 2 роки тому
While your point is correct, 3080 is 40% cheaper than 3080 Ti while 3080 Ti is 70% more expensive than 3080.
@user-fi5iq5ws5i 2 роки тому
Should I wait for the next series of graphics to come out or do you think prices will have gone back to normal by then for rtx 30 series
@TripleVR 2 роки тому
Halving the memory of the 3090 allowing them to make twice the cards actually makes sense. Thanks for that perspective sir. I was actually all aboard the rage train about this card before hearing this. When will scalpocalypse finally be over? 2nd quarter 2022 at the least I would guess.
@kllrnohj 2 роки тому
This review aged like milk. Should have waited for the MSRP price first.
@ItTolls4Thee 2 роки тому
Linus was the one kvetching about the incomplete prebriefings and now he steps on his own crank with this flip flop garbage defense of a rip off board. This is a blow to their cred.
@denkt 2 роки тому
It aged like milk on the dashboard of a car on a hot sunny day
@biteme3989 2 роки тому
Msrp is irrelevant if they aren’t in stock anywhere
@SleepyFen 2 роки тому
I got the exact same impression from their recent showcase of the Asus laptop. They're praising it to high heaven but we see no performance data of any kind, making the video little more than an advertisement.
@Endonae 2 роки тому
I get that there's pressure to release reviews as soon as the embargo lifts, but it's flat out impossible to properly evaluate a product without considering the price. Editing in a frowny face at the last second does not count.
@omarcomming722 2 роки тому
It's even worse lol, it indicates he doesn't care about the announced price enough to alter the video any more that.
@DINO_X65 2 роки тому
@@omarcomming722 he's a sell out as well as an out of touch with reality millionaire, i don't think he cares about these things at all, just wants to make money
@iTrinityPlays 2 роки тому
@@DINO_X65 Crazy how many people get labeled a sell out because they're successful. Nope can't be anything else at all, not scheduling, or having to run a multimillion dollar operation everyday. Nah just Definitely gotta be a sell out.
@DINO_X65 2 роки тому
@@iTrinityPlays really, then why do all the other reviewers recommend that people steer clear of the card, and only this channel says to buy it if you can for msrp, after a certain point, he no longer cared about educating the viewer
@paulmememan508 2 роки тому
@@iTrinityPlays lol yeah Linus isn't involved in the day-to-day operations of LMG and he isn't even their involved in filming other presenter's segments. If he's using his time for business it's some other business.
@Cypeq 2 роки тому
This a take one might have, when money is no longer an object.
@3k3k3 2 роки тому
A winner? :) The 3090 wasn't worth the money, except for those very specific cases where it was the only alternative, this card is the same except even less value for money and even less specific cases. This is one of those few Linus reviews that, does, not, make, sense..
@TyroPirate 2 роки тому
Linus simply accepted the prices for what they are this generation and essentially said that compared to the 3090, the performance is the same but the card is cheaper. Also, it's not mentioned in the vid, but the 2080 Ti was also $1200.
@Invictus_Mithra 2 роки тому
"The MSRP is going to be higher than they would have liked." oh yeah, I'm sure Nvidia is really shedding tears at the decision they had to make. What a brave company charging 70% more for ~8% more performance!
@Ufphen 2 роки тому
more expensive means less sales.
@GameTimeWhy 2 роки тому
@Jacob not "dumb" enough. People have been holding out for upgrades since the 10 series. People are trying to build new rigs.
@jimx6447 2 роки тому
@Jacob based on steam, usually less then 1% of gamers will ever be able to buy their high end cards! so stop crying.
@GainingDespair 2 роки тому
@@Ufphen If you sell everything the second it hits a shelf/store front than no. $12,000 KIA's are basically the cheapest vehicles you can buy new in the US, yet a $45,000 F150 outsells them. Same logic
@bentondonlevy8386 2 роки тому
@@Ufphen You realize the demand for these is insane right? nvidia could sell them at double msrp and they would still sell out instantly. you sound silly
@GhaleonStrife 2 роки тому
"The scalpocalypse isn't going to last forever..." NARRATOR: "It did last forever."
@228ss 2 роки тому
I hope the narrator is Ron Howard
@kanishkachakraborty1168 2 роки тому
This implies that the narrator is beyond our perception of time, and they are an external observer to the universe we live in.
@mrchrizztech1050 2 роки тому
@@kanishkachakraborty1168 ty Einstein
@tomx641 2 роки тому
Correct: The pandemic shortages will be over soon. ... and the war between China and the US will begin.
@loreaver3882 2 роки тому
2 more months
@gregcakagonnamakeutakit 2 роки тому
Nvidia : Hey Linus will send you a 3080ti if you tell everyone how great of an idea this is...... Linus : so we’re back with another review.
@gonzo9769 2 роки тому
They cut him a check and TBH his fans should be furious over this video.Its pure shilling.
@Pringlebox 2 роки тому
@@gonzo9769 Lol if he got paid by nvidia by law he would have to disclose this is an ad, he reviews all the top end pc stuff when it comes out this isn't unusual
@Logical 2 роки тому
A The Verge production.
@AthosJosue 2 роки тому
This sounds more like an Ad than anything else.
@pootsplasencia4846 2 роки тому
Because this guy is a sell out team green must have paid him he didn't even talk about the rtx 3080
@Cairnsification 2 роки тому
@@kodenetic664 This is the same Linus who took Nvidia's money to show the 3090 playing at "8K" on select titles, with select settings, mostly with DLSS...chosen by Nvidia. Literally the next day his 3090 review shows it can't play at 8K. Not that he admitted it, of course.
@nk4j272 2 роки тому
@@pootsplasencia4846 Never in the record of me watching LTT has something like this happened. If it's paid, he always discloses that, doing otherwise it's not only unethical but also illegal. Also even when paid, you can agree on touching some specific subjects but saying something deceiving that you don't agree with is illegal as well. The review is a miss but LTT team has kept an excellent record during the years. Frankly, would I be in their skin, your opinion would seems really disrespectful to me.
@pootsplasencia4846 2 роки тому
@@nk4j272 all other you tubers said it isn't worth it because its a 10 percent increase in performance for 70 percent more money over the 3080 yet linus doesn't even mention the 3080 and says its a deal compare to the 3090 and that its everything he expected why not say the truth that its way over priced just like the rest and don't mention it
@JAYZ999 2 роки тому
Linus went bat shit crazy over nvidia threats to hardware unboxed. Anyone who thinks he’s a sellout is delusional.
@Dragonpreet 2 роки тому
“Should bring prices in line with 6900XT” Yeah, about that.....
@nexusiv1421 2 роки тому
so about 2/2.5k ish XD
@blackonblack...9244 2 роки тому
And no availability due to chip shortage and scalpers, auto manufacturers, and half the world in demand.
@Qubk0 2 роки тому
What's the MSRP?
@HelloOnepiece 2 роки тому
@@Qubk0 1200 USD
@ekifi 2 роки тому
AMD cards are widely less available than Nvidia ones anyway
@Chakeis 2 роки тому
I just bought a pc via a "config your own pc" thing on a site and I don't know if they messed up the pricing but I got a tuf 3080 ti for about $1300. Considering how hard it is to get a 3080, I'm fairly happy about that. Most sites where I live has the regular 3080 listed at $1300...
@noaage4592 2 роки тому
Does the limited hashrate on the 3080ti have any affect on gameplay or does it perform just as good as if it had full hashrate?
@timothycarr 2 роки тому
There's an old adage about headlines posed as questions: the answer is always no. So I guess by that rule, no, you shouldn't take Nvidia back.
@davidsdomain5510 2 роки тому
No, it's Any headline that ends in a question mark *can be* answered by the word no."
@NegTharayas16 2 роки тому
Linus: "this card is Nvidia's apology" Everyone else: "Linus needs to apologize for this crap"
@frozenskeptic345 2 роки тому
Yea idk what tf this video is. Go watch gamers Nexus at least he doesn't lie to our faces for $
@ahmed9982 2 роки тому
@@frozenskeptic345 yeah like wtf lmg
@ruby_gleyzes 2 роки тому
100%
@TheCyanHawk. 2 роки тому
@@frozenskeptic345 lol what extra money would he get for lying?
@helicopterharry5101 2 роки тому
Kind of crappy to give a positive review before the price is even announced. Price vs product should be the focus of a review, not an insert linus emoji here after the price has been announced like it's a minor point. True, this is a product for people who don't care about price, but we knew what to expect from the hardware. So if price doesn't matter, why does this review matter? The subtext seems to be "nvidia has you over a barrel, so you might as well try to enjoy it".
@jamesnail7183 2 роки тому
It seems you've been setting high on your golden throne so long you forgot the job of the reviewer should be to look out for the average customer, Jay and Steve still seem to remember this.
@benhopkins4587 Рік тому
Got one the other day at MSRP and I love it. Have a EK water block coming for it next week. Cant wait. Blows my 6-7 year old ASUS ROG Strix 1080 8gb OC edition out of the water in performance.
@cynic256 2 роки тому
HOW ARE YOU RECOMMENDING A 7% GPU INCREASE FOR A 70% PRICE INCREASE?
@hueyrosayaga 2 роки тому
Don't get me wrong, the GPU was SUPPOSED to be a good deal. Then shortages happened :/
@BonusCrook 2 роки тому
Linus is a bit braindead at this point
@bornonthebattlefront4883 2 роки тому
@@hueyrosayaga no it wasn’t The 2080ti was 1200$ too Nvidia had no plans to make this cheaper This is a cash grab plain and simple And it’s just now cause people don’t have the money to spend that people realize what scam the past 2 generations of nvidia gpus have been Even $900 would be fine But 1200 without any extra Vram is stupid And don’t say “you get 2 more gb” No you don’t You get 12 less then you should have This is the 3rd generation with the same Vram count What happened to doubling the Vram every generation? People need to wake up and realize that Nvidia isn’t worth buying
@RatbagTheCoward 2 роки тому
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Then who do you buy? Can you, BornOnTheBattleFront, dissolve the monopoly? Because Nvidia is mandatory for some lines of work
@jaydeeoldboy9903 2 роки тому
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 It that was really true then the 3080 would have been priced much higher. As usual Nvidia is just ripping off their customers, simply because they can.
@bryanbernheisel7441 2 роки тому
Every other reviewer: "way overpriced for what it is." Linus: "it's amazing!"
@rud 2 роки тому
They live in a different world than the rest of us. :D
@jmashcomptech 2 роки тому
Shill.
@njoshua3265 2 роки тому
@@jmashcomptech If you think he wants some great NVIDIA monopoly instead of a healthy competition from AMD you haven't watched enough of the videos he has made. that said however, i still think this review in particular is not well done, should have had proper $% stats against 3080 because this card is certainly controversial. tired of the same shill shit that these techtubers get, not all of them but lots do
@jmashcomptech 2 роки тому
@@njoshua3265 it is blatantly obvious linus was paid (coaxed?) to write an opinion piece.
@jeffcats88 2 роки тому
@@jmashcomptech It's not, though. It seems that way but you can't say that with confidence because you really don't know. And like njoshua326 was saying if you consider all of his previous videos, this is out of character for Linus.
@rickgrimes931 2 роки тому
What about comparing the 3080 ti vs 3090 on a single PC streaming rig. Does the extra memory (or anything else) affect that at all?
@shiyurei Рік тому
What’s a good motherboard for a gigabyte Nvidia geforce rtx 3080Ti and ryzen 9 5950x with 32gb ram I’m tryna build my pc but don’t know a good motherboard for those GPU and CPU i mentioned
@pow1983 2 роки тому
I'm with Gamers Nexus on this one.
@fabian_ftn6604 2 роки тому
Same
@dpb3884 2 роки тому
Same
@Northicex 2 роки тому
I stand with Steve.
@chuchof3tt669 2 роки тому
yup .. we are
@Yggdrasill8 2 роки тому
I'm with Tech Jesus for this one
@MateMeerai 2 роки тому
It's so funny to see how different Linus and Steven from GN are aproaching the review. Linus is happy to get a basicly 3090 for less and Steven bashes the card for being only 10%ish better than the 3080 but costs ~$400 more. I love it.
@twiggsherman3641 2 роки тому
Yeah it doesn't make any sense. Steve is obviously the gold standard when it comes to honest reviews and advice. Linus dropped the ball here. Bad.
@lilairfryer6049 2 роки тому
Except that it doesn't cost $400 more. It costs more or less about the same... $3000
@9SMTM6 2 роки тому
@@lilairfryer6049 at MSRP the 3080Ti is 500$ more than the 3080 and 300$ less than the 3090, while compared to the 3090 its loosing half its RAM when only gaining 20% on the 3080. Yeah its a money grab. It isn't necessarly bad in the current climate. That depends, among others, on how NVIDIA handles it, whether it diverts more 3090s to it or more 3080s. And to be honest I don't at all trust Nvidias claims here, the fact that they're asking 1200$ for this card and have the balls to claim it's primarily to help gamers and not to increase their cut of the current market all but proves their motivation and likely strategy. It is, however, any way you put it, desastrous for the market after the current situation. Because the 3090 already saw Nvidia massively increase their profit span, without the 3090 having many of the traditional advantages of the Titans. The 3080Ti costs Nvidia almost the same to make as the 3080, but the consumer costs are far closer to the 3090. And that's not just Scalper prices, but Nvidia MSRP. Which means it'll continue to be a thing after the current situation, they obviously don't aim to reduce pricing after the current situation stops. If Nvidia were only trying to increase their cut in the current climate (which I'm actually somewhat okay with), they'd not increase their MSRP but they'd just hike the price they're selling the cards to their partners for.
@Guttsdoyle 2 роки тому
@@9SMTM6 12 - 7 = 5
@TheCompyshop 2 роки тому
I honestly don’t know why Steve is bitching about it, theres literally no chance were going to buy any of those cards for Msrp. I got my hands on 2 3070’s and I had to buy them at 3x MSRP after spending 6 months trying to buy them because I had no choice. It’s stupid
@wesleyleigh4063 2 роки тому
It just shows that you're detached from the average person, who can't find a good deal on a GPU good enough to play triple A games, and also has to look at this perpetual charade of cards that are stupid expensive.
@probablykeen 2 роки тому
wah wah waah wahh? WAH!
@thenoobreturnz8968 2 роки тому
Well was debating getting a prebuilt between 3080 ti vs 6900xt and am leaning towards 3080 ti. Only thing is, can ANY VR gamers verify if i'm making the right choice?
@Ghan04 2 роки тому
"If you can get one at MSRP, it's a no-brainer." I'm very disappointed, Linus. The 3080 Ti is 70% more expensive than the 3080 for a few % increase in gaming performance. This is an absurd product at that price point, and the fact that you couldn't be bothered to give your review due consideration in the context of that key point diminishes your credibility on this issue. Nvidia does not deserve praise for this launch and it's blatantly obvious to consumers. You need to do better.
@brokenphysics6146 2 роки тому
To be fair, any gpu you can get at msrp right now, is a no-brainer.
@ODIRION 2 роки тому
i think he just meant that any GPU available at MSRP is a no brainer, not that he was really happy about that price
@jondizzo9200 2 роки тому
To be fair, any gpu you can get at MSRP right now, is a no-brainer. No-brainer in the sense that you should not buy. You're a sap if you're buying any of these ridiculous cards.
@Hrathen39 2 роки тому
Honestly he prolly should've just said 3080 was better deal, do NOT try to buy the 3080ti... Instead he's praising it for some reason like how it's cheaper than 3090. NO ONE was even recommending the 3090 when it launched, he shouldn't even use it as comparison
@raawesome3851 2 роки тому
@@Hrathen39 there's no way to get the 3080. That's the thing.
@ThisSteveGuy 2 роки тому
GN Steve is right. A card that costs 70%+ more than the 3080 for less than a 10% improvement in performance is highway robbery. NVidia is just getting into the scalping game themselves, taking advantage of a totally dysfunctional market. At the end of the day, AMD's FSR is really the only thing most gamers actually have to look forward to in the near future; hopefully lots of game devs get on board with that.
@NathansAirsoftAnd3D 2 роки тому
shot before msrp reveal. did you watch the video?
@ThisSteveGuy 2 роки тому
@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D Oh, I know. That's why I'm not talking about this video, because the price reveal has basically made it irrelevant. And now everyone and their mom is calling Linus an NVidia shill. Poor guy, lol. Can't wait to see how they address this.
@alecbraun6272 2 роки тому
@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D stop trying to defend him in every reply he should have known the risk of shooting the video without the MSRP of the card.
@fatihnri2484 2 роки тому
@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D ever that thought that maybe they should take price into account when reviewing a product?
@ThisSteveGuy 2 роки тому
Gotta say, I'm surprised he's doubling down on this review now. I'm sorry, but who tf is this card for? People driving Ferraris to Micro Center? FFS, nobody asked for this thing. So many people are hurting out there, they're broke and they've got kids screaming for video games and NVidia's got nothing for them. Just absurd.
@powawowah 2 роки тому
Mmmm... your at odds with every other review I’ve seen where the ti was hotter, noisier, more power hungry and slower at 4K.
@GatecrasherSlim 2 роки тому
Slower at 4k compared to what?
@manwithamic2372 2 роки тому
LTT has been becoming more and more tone deaf as of late. GN actually puts far more time into their reviews and are way more self aware than LTT
@Rumi_117 2 роки тому
"This video was shot before Nvidia revealed the msrp" Yeah....oof.
@bobnope457 2 роки тому
1200 USD. What a bargain!
@cynic256 2 роки тому
why do they film videos when they don't have all the info
@cagasbura420 2 роки тому
@@bobnope457 add a zero and you get the price that you will actually pay lol (cries inside)
@andrewt.5567 2 роки тому
@@cynic256 The price itself does not change the performance of the card. That is really what the review should be about. It is up to the customer to decide if the price is worth it or not.
@theSafetyCar 2 роки тому
Even at $1000 this isn't worth it. The 6900xt is better and that card STILL isn't worth it. Nvidia are using this to literally make less 3080s.
@CarthagoMike 2 роки тому
Yeh, the MSRP of this card kinda ruins any potential it might potentially have had.
@TimBoundy 2 роки тому
It's the same MSRP as the 2080 Ti FE at launch.
@dawkosvk 2 роки тому
@@TimBoundy don't compare it with that. Compare it with the msrp of 3080, cause that's what's important here
@TimBoundy 2 роки тому
@@dawkosvk I disagree. The 3080 launch MSRP matches the 2080 launch MSRP. The 3080 Ti FE launch MSRP matches the 2080 TI FE launch MSRP. NVIDIA targets pricing tiers, this generation is no different.
@dawkosvk 2 роки тому
@@TimBoundy you think that that performance increase is worth $500?
@TimBoundy 2 роки тому
@@dawkosvk of course not. But I thought the same thing about the 2080 Ti pricing. It's a halo product, not the one you should actually be buying.
@pinoyarkitekto620 Рік тому
how about when it comes to 3d rendering more than gaming? is the price difference worth it to buy the 3090?
@Lt.Shineysides89 2 роки тому
Testing in a case it does get hot and sometimes over 80 partially due to room temps in my home as well though. The strix 1080 ti i had hit 84 all the time in demanding games in my old pc but this averages around mid 70's celsius wich aint too bad considering just how powerful it is.
@XMegaJuni 2 роки тому
Saving this video to watch two or three years into the future when cards will be in stock
@cruzin4k384 2 роки тому
lmaooooo same bruh
@Wahinies 2 роки тому
*if
@scubbaablocks 2 роки тому
Let's hope it will
@CakePrincessCelestia 2 роки тому
They won't because this gen will automagically disappear from the retailers once the 40 series drops, probably in 2022. History repeats itself...
@Pray4TheBatman 2 роки тому
LTT: I love it! GamersNexus: Don't buy it!
@hamzaghazi 2 роки тому
@@Ren33469 why isnt it a good buy anyways, I'm curious
@doodlekiiid3569 2 роки тому
@@hamzaghazi it's not worth it paying 500usd for 8% performance boost
@zootaxy7589 2 роки тому
@@hamzaghazi you pay almost double of the rtx 3080 for the ti which is not worth the small performance gap
@disliker7182 2 роки тому
What's the issue? It's a premium card like all other 80ti's and is priced accordingly. And the shortage bumps the prices even more. I think people just don't like nvidia cause they think amd runs a charity for gamers (they're a business with share holders, they want money)
@xensae 2 роки тому
@@disliker7182 They have already had their biggest revenue year ever in the history of the company. Shareholders are fine as they are. And is it not "priced accordingly with other TI's." The 2080Ti was a 30% performance increase over the 2080 for 70%. This MSRP is a 72% increase for an 8% gain (Only makes a difference at 4k anyways.) 10 Sereis > 30% = 40% Price increase 20 series > 15% = 70% Price increase. 30 series > 8% = 72% Price increase. They simply want more money and it's a shameless move for them to make. It is bad value and not a good product, and should never be bought. The 2080Ti was already known as being bad value, so a card that's even worse would, understandably, be even worse value. EDIT: I'd just like to clarify that the shortage doesn't really affect NVIDIA negatively, only from a PR standpoint. From a business standpoint, it gives them more money than they actually should receive because of demand not being able to be met. So that point is kinda invalid also.
@m4ster_root 2 роки тому
It's insane that a ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 Ti ROG STRIX OC cost the same as my 3090 ROG STRIX OC did... Usually you pay a premium at launch and then the cards will stabilize at a slightly lower price shortly after... Time have most definitely changed a lot!
@dangrth 2 роки тому
Thermals are nice, but what about noise with the undersized cooler ? I made a mistake of buying a 3080ti from Gainward, and the thing can't even manage to be fanless for web surfing... And even at 30% fan, the thing is absolutely unbearable, not to mention the 100% when playing games that are GPU limited - I'm returning it and keeping with a 1060 in the meantime. Does the 3080ti FE have the same problem ?
@GCGeekArmy 2 роки тому
Every other tech reviewer: This is dog water Linus: I'm not a shill Also Linus: This is a winner
@smartgorilla 2 роки тому
Exactly! Why did I even watch this half way of this 💩💩
@amateurwizard 2 роки тому
You sound like a 15 Y/O
@njoshua3265 2 роки тому
If you think he wants some great NVIDIA monopoly instead of a healthy competition from AMD you haven't watched enough of the videos he has made. that said however, i still think this review in particular is not well done, should have had proper $% stats against 3080 because this card is certainly controversial. tired of the same shill shit that these techtubers get, not all of them but lots do
@macse7en 2 роки тому
Yeah, paying 70% more for 10% better performance over the standard 3080 isn't right. They're straight up comparing the wrong GPUs. The "Ti" versions have always been viewed as upgraded versions, not something that's supposed to be compared to the next level up.
@DMS_134 2 роки тому
This is almost at Tom's Hardware's levels of failing to read the room. I sure as shit wasn't expecting Linus to be sucking up to Nvidia so much.
@brownshit1 2 роки тому
My thoughts exactly.
@talldarkshark8012 2 роки тому
+1
@njoshua3265 2 роки тому
Suck up to NVIDIA, did you even see the video posted literally yesterday. Think this review is flawed but hes not shilling for either company to come out top
@ivchatov 2 роки тому
@@njoshua3265 he shills for most big PC hardware companies, picking and choosing the timing. He does this so he doesn’t lose access to them and their budgets. Intel doesn’t just give out 5k per LMG employee for the lulz. Linus is a huge sellout, but he’s entertaining enough to keep watching, not to mention he’s got the budget for production value, which is not something most techtubers can say.
@juubilo1509 2 роки тому
@@ivchatov Have you forgot hes made countless videos bashing companies for bad practices, and even cut off sponsors who were shady? He isnt shilling, I think this was just a bad oversight.
@maesterx4d 2 роки тому
I watched a lot of Linus when I did my first computer build when he was working at the store. I came back to check up cause I thought this would continue to be unbiased fair review, but everything about this laissez-faire attitude to reviewing such an important card is a big bummer. Actually defending a 5% increase in performance over 3080 with a 80% increase in price? Did you actually get hit with a rock on the head buddy? OF COURSE price matters in the real world. This isn’t something you just haphazardly make a 2sec face clip and stick it in the script after it’s written. This should be a core part of the discussion….
@m4nt1c0r3s 2 роки тому
Ah i see Linus slowly becoming the H3H3 of the tech scene - "You don't even have to think about it, dude"
@CellarDoorAU 2 роки тому
10:41 "You know what's not going to look pretty good?" ...This review after the market has normalised.
@spitfireinvasion 2 роки тому
3080ti at MSRP is a "no brainer"? Bruh...
@informitas0117 2 роки тому
Should have said "buying a 3080 ti is a no brain move."
@RinoaAeris 2 роки тому
i never spent more than $250 on a gpu and i've been buying cards since 2004.
@thetarantulahouse6243 2 роки тому
What would be a great graphics card for both gaming and 3D modelling ? I’m looking to start my first build this year but I want to do both. But I have no idea which one to go for
@jehannes1000 2 роки тому
if you can find them at msrp....: 3080 is a very good bet, if it's vram intensive modelling AND you earn money with it 3090 might be worth it.
@thetarantulahouse6243 2 роки тому
@@jehannes1000 thanks mate 👍🏻
@orius 2 роки тому
4:35 WHY DID THAT PAUSE SYNC SO WELL WITH LINUS' VOICE
@Coktane_ 2 роки тому
Prediction: In the next few days, Linus releases a video acknowledging other channels' viewpoints, but stating he isn't sucking up to Nvidia either.
@aykutcoskun6092 2 роки тому
He will say "because we need to act quick, we have a big team, we didn't know msrp, things i said in video still true" etc. Reviewing any product without knowing price is bad journalism. I like ltt a lot but they become more Verge-like as they get bigger.
@RiceCakeWtf 2 роки тому
This is a drinking game I can get with.
@studentoo925 2 роки тому
They should delete this one and do one more as acknowledgement of their fck up
@aykutcoskun6092 2 роки тому
@@leolego2 that's not how it works. Both Nvidia and Ltt get their money by that nerds and we are just giving constructive feedback. We are ltt fans too, this is just a mistake.
@Girvo747 2 роки тому
@@leolego2 lol imagine defending a company like this. They’re not your friend. Put your parasocial relationship down and back away
@BillyBadass 2 роки тому
I look forward to your 'community apology' video for dumping this "review" out before a price was even set, Linus.
@LucidStrike 2 роки тому
Cutting corners to fit more videos into the production schedule. Smh.
@MillerIndustriesInc 2 роки тому
Yup
@EricMalette 2 роки тому
I honestly think this is a setup for a future 'let's burn nVidia video.'
@nathandouglas7821 2 роки тому
@@leolego2 I have no opinion on the card. But I would however like to point out how triggered you seem to be by the very community you are also criticizing for being triggered.. kind of ironic right? lmao... hope your day gets better my guy and I truly mean that
@zootaxy7589 2 роки тому
@@leolego2 he can have an opinion bu the rtx 3080 is 700usd and the ti being $1200usd making it terrible value for the slight performance increase
@mrlusca1476 2 роки тому
Is the gamer program available to people from countries outside north america?
@elitescouter 2 роки тому
Had to come back to see how the 3080 Ti compares, managed to pick up a EVGA one for 1178 somehow from their store. So far it handles anything I throw at it.
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