I still have nightmares about babys jumping out of the crib and transforming into a 10 YEAR OLD KID.

They did bring back burglars for the Sims 4, it is EA themselves. They are the burglars, we have always have it all this while.

The Sims 3: expansion pack The Sims 4: expensive packs

The original map screen really shows that they dare to release unfinished product, at such a high price. And sadly they keep continuing this unethical practice until now.

Sims 5 has zero interest for me because we can 100% bet that it will be much worse in terms of monetization. I predict a cash shop that sells small little things like a shirt for $10 or a feature like cats for $20. Mark my words, a cash shop or a horrible version of a “battle pass” will be making its way to the sims so they can monetize every little feature. It’s going to get so much worse 😭

i vividly remember getting sims 4 for christmas in 2014, installing it, and LITERALLY playing for like 15 minutes, closing it and playing sims 3 for the rest of the day.

I never regret every version and packs that I pirated for the last 10 years

I'm still so pissed about the MAC collab. THEY COULD HAVE HAD A LIPSTICK CALLED "RUBY WOO-HOO" FFS (ruby woo is an iconic MAC color for lipstick)

Honestly the sims community is to blame for this because despite every pack being a major disappointment people keep on buying them. If we all collectively boycott EA they’re going to be forced to make a difference

I hate how everything is building focused. The sims team can’t grasp that we want gameplay for interactions between sims. That’s why everyone focuses on building because there the gameplay is so surface level, and you’re expected to “imagine” storylines rather than playing storylines. It’s boring and beyond crazy we have get so little in return for our money. Here’s hoping I can figure out how to pirate packs without getting my account banned.

I remember when you had to download skin tone cc because all the black skin tones look grey they didn’t fix it until like 2020 mad

The sims 4 is a cash grab disappointment. It's a shame EA has lost it's creativity and had decided to suck the life out of it's best medias for monetisation. The sims team needs to take a step back and let some new people come in or actually bother to fight back against this and protest against the company and strike.

You forgot the journey to Batuu mess 😂 I remember people talking about how incompetent and cash grabby EA are in terms of what their costumers want

Let us not forget, Late Night was the THIRD expansion pack of the sims 3. And it came with all of that.

I can’t begin to tell you how mad I was after the 20 year anniversary gift. That showed me how little they care about us as a fan base imo

I know every one loves the Sims 2 gameplay, but Sims 3 is by far my favorite in the series. Even in the base game for Sims 3 you could customize sooo much more. Even your own swatches! It was a good time to be a Simmer.

Ambitions was SO good. Not only did it come with a bunch of really fun active careers, it gave us the option to be self employed, so you could make a career out of any skill as well. And it came with inventing and sculpting skills, which were the best. I loved going to the junkyard and blowing stuff up for scrap. Ambitions just came with so much to do. TS4 could never. :(

Controversies living as rent free as my tenants in For Rent because a bug makes them not pay rent. 🥰

The original hood screen being literally WORSE than TS1 will never not be funny 🤣

Getting a basic hot tub for 20th anniversary is such a slap in the face but speaking of hot tubs, I recommend y'all check out Sims 3 Hot tubs that came in several expansion pack/stuff pack. They're so gorgeous and honestly you can use them as decoration alone. Now, Sims 3 stuff pack is so amazing that's nothing new but imagine this, you can build a basic functional world with just Sims 3 basegame + Town Living stuff pack. That pack comes with school building, department store, cafe/restaurant, business building, Library and even laundromat. Some of them like the cafe or school are rabbit hole shell but stuff like library, laundromat and gym is a full building.

it's worse, the Sims 4 was actually $60USD on launch. Which, even given the incredibly favourable exchange rates at the time that we could only dream of today, meant it cost almost $70 here :')

I remember when HSY came out and this incest/romance glitch happened like it was yesterday. My sim had a teenage son who had a boyfriend, he broke up with him eventually, but then the dad and the TEEN ex were somehow engaged all of a sudden and it traumatized me for good 😭😭😭

The fact that we now accept that new packs are broken and have waaay less gameplay, CAS and build-buy-mode is actually seriously sad. What a wonderful game the Sims used to be. As a child I spend hours and hours and hours into the first Sims game ❤ Ofcourse every game has some sense of cash-grabbyness. But the way the Sims 4 (read: EA) does it is beyond ridiculousness. I refuse to spend a penny on this and coming Sims games until they are worth my money. If that ever happens again…

honestly. the sims 4 horse ranch is one of the worst one yet. i played with it for like 1 day and i have never touched it since. the only good thing that comes with that pack is the build buy. also the build buy from the new pack sucks so much. there is barely any furniture but there are like 5 windows.

I feel like releasing such a barebones basegame really worked out in their favor due to how many packs you have to buy to compensate for the lack of features

"If a Willow Creek house and a hot tub had a baby" 😂 eres un genio.

a controversy that caused a big stink was the terrible rebrand back in 2019 that violated several graphic design principles

The change in what we would get in expansion packs from Sims 3 to Sims 4 will forever be the biggest, most impactful controversy in my book.

I just want a life simulation game with character and *gasp* adult themes. Give it an M rating I don’t care… I will always say this… Rockstar needs to reskin GTA to make another game that’s a life simulator game 😂

the incest glitch STILL isn't fully fixed yet. and they need to fix some familial tags for the step family and stuff they keep trying to romance each other it always is so disgusting

That’s why I don’t buy the sims, i just download it💀

I feel like Sims 4 maps could be so cute if they were like the ones from Sims 1, they feel very 3D while still being a 2D image plus with the moving details like rivers, waterfalls, etc.

Here is the thing, they have been able to do this to us because they have had 0 competition, i have no idea how or why they have been able to enjoy a monopoly on this genre for as long as they have, but now we have like 3 new games on the horizon to challenge EA's Sims. They were able to treat us like ATMs for so long cause they knew, where else are they going to go? so its going to be interesting to see if they still keep the same mentality when they aren't the only game in town for life simulation, and if they don't change, well i guess i will be moving onto other games like, Paralives, Life By You or inzoi

I didn't know about the incest bug, but I remember when they added that npcs can ask your sims to marry them, polygamy became possible. My sim was married, but had an affair, and then the affair asked him to marry her. I said yes because I wanted to see what would happen, and then my sim suddenly had two wives. I think they patched that out, but it was honestly kinda fun. Sometimes, Sims 4 can be fun to play, but a lot of the time it feels like a chore. The game doesn't really throw any challenges at you, if you want something interesting to happen, most of the time you have to actively make it happen. But then, certain game mechanics actively keep you from making things happen. I rarely visit other lots, unless I'm playing in a household with just one sim. Because I don't usually want to bring all members of the household, but when I just bring one, the other ones either waste their day (in the best case) or waste their day AND have low needs when I come back. In Sims 2, time stood still on your home lot when you travelled, so the other family members didn't lose a day because one sim went out, and in Sims 3 the open world meant I could just switch back and forth between my sims. But in Sims 4, I just can't go out a lot of the time, because the kids won't do their homework, or the spouse won't perform the interactions they need to do for their job (which is also weird and annoying, how does my boss know how much time I spent playing instruments?)

I gave up on finding joy in The Sims 4 a while ago. I play sims 2 and sims 3 if I want the sims experience. I wish Sims 5 will be a mix between sims 2 and 3 but with better graphics, CAS and Build/buy mode.

just to add another atrocious difference: in sims 3 world adventures you got 3 (!!) open world travel locations with LORE for each townie and immense details. vacations in sims 4 are lacking so much its really frustrating. i get the feeling that future sims titles will never get close to what we had in sims 2 & 3

I totally agree with your comments, Satch! And from my experience yesterday I have to add one more. I can't recall the term for it, but the game play is too much without consequences. Too safe. Even with a mod installed my Sims wouldn't stay angry at each other. Bitter enemies that immediately chat friendly conversations. Very vanilla.

I still mourn the Sims 2. If i could just have Sims 2 gameplay with sims 4 graphics...

A minor correction: *A* dishwasher came in the patch corresponding to the Cool Kitchen stuff pack. Pools and ghosts came in the very first two patches, so they were already in the game by the time they were announced. Also, the maps aren't a product of the game being rushed, but they did start a bad precedent of uneditable worlds with few lots. (The only world with more than ten lots not in BG is Windenburg, and that world IS basically cut content from BG...)

I don’t play the sims 4. I was one of those who bought it when it launched and then went right back to sims 3 and just never stopped playing 3. It’s so so so much more in depth than anything I’ve seen with the sims 4

Great video! I played Sims 1, easily transitioned to Sims 2, but it took me over a year to buy Sims 3, and Sims 4 has never lived up to the previous fun & actively challenging versions of the game. I miss the cake strippers.

Im so didn't get over the fact that I saw AND PLAYED the HORRIBLE TS4 base game launch! that "world map" + the return of loading screen are the most depressing part of that release! I stopped playing the game until 2018 where there are improvements at least, well... thats I what I thought

Also I absolutely LOVE that you showed the difference between Sims 3 and Sims 4 expension packs with Late Night of all packs; A pack that a lot of people thought became redundant with later expension packs but which STILL had so much more to offer compared to most Sims 4 packs!

And let's not forget the whole mess of the changing tables situation from growing together, also my wedding stories in its entirety

I think that you have to have the seasons expansion pack for weather is the mos controversial thing in the Sims 4 And also my first pet stuff is pretty controversial.

As someone whose favorite part of sims 3 was open world and story progression The change to sims 4 was traumatizing.

If all the features we do have were fleshed out and deep the game would be sooo cool.

It's sad that we need to get excited for one basic item..

That hot tub mad me so mad. I was expecting so much more I kept expecting it to transform!

I was so excited for the Sims 3. I bought a brand-new computer, and I had almost all the expansion packs. When the Sims 4 came out, I bought another computer and was ready for it. Now, I’m not excited for the Sims 5, and that’s sad to me. I’ve been playing the Sims since the very beginning, since Simcity in elementary school 😔

The previous sims teams laughing at this team and crying at the same time 👈🏾you ruined the franchise we built

The reason why if people asked; Sheeps keep on buying them. They're adding less and less content per release while charging a full price game. I couldn't blame them as they can cut staffing and can make much more money. This is the only game that I still play but pirated. I could've bought 20-30 games if I pay for all Sims 4 DLCs. While each of those games have tons more contents than all of Sims 4's DLCs combined. I really hope they'll do better with Sims 5 or else I'll keep on pirating for the DLCs again. Then again, it's EA. They'll milk you dry.

Lol you forgot the skintone controversy.

Sims 3 still has a hold on my heart

It's getting worse & worse 😂😂😂😂😂

Its always been WILD to me that the sims 4 released horses and bikes.....but no cars...please make it make sense smh 😢

I was a die hard simmer back in the day from original to The Sims 3. I just downloaded The Sims 4 a few months ago, I took advantage of the black Friday deals and bought some packs and stuff. Then I found Sims 4 drama on UKposts. OMG I can't even breathe! I needed I am living for this year 😅😅😂😅

I feel like the romance between lifestages was maybe somewhat intentional(or playtested that way) since the high school pack was euphoria inspired?

We literally pay EA to be the testplayers for the sims 4 at this point

finally got horses in the game after 9 years. i dont need anything else anymore. i can stop gambling now on wether i should buy a pack or not and worrying what might be broken this time. and again. at this point, i feel like only SatchOnSims is the only fair youtuber making content on this. the rest of the content creators i sometimes watch, only talk about how fun the pack is and how they arent being paid for the video but have ONLY got the pack code for free lol. the rest of us can stil pay up. sure. Only Satch is fair.

Your videos always give me a laugh I didn’t know I needed ❤

The orginal map screens look the the board game Life before you set it up

I literally must have hated the original map screens so much that I forced myself to forget about them like it was a traumatic experience until I got reminded of them again like 2 or so years ago lol.

Your cackle is the literal best

i legit decline every single ‘date’ or ‘hangout’ invitation in the Sims 4 just bc of the loading

no pools in base game!!

One I’ll never forget is the controversy around the Star Wars pack when it first came out 😂😂

Still to this day Sims 3 Late Night gives me LIFE. I love playing it. I love the world, I love the gameplay. It just gives me all the glamour, fame, city life I always wanted in a life sim

I really thought after the sims 3 we’d get more advanced looking sims with a lot of traits to have per sims not 3 traits. 😭

It is a tragedy how small the maps and lots are with every new gamepack that comes out. Absolutely criminal tbh

Also, the Starwar one with alien costumes is really messy.

I usually don't use the washing machine and stuff in the sims, but I'm so bored, my sim has nothing to do really so I guess I do that. Oh and last night when I played I forgott to pay the bills and the message popped up that electricity is now dowm, but my sim could use the Pc, the lights, everything worked just fine. Wow what a challenge... xD

i grew up with the sims 3, when sims 4 was announced i was super excited and begged my dad to get it for me for christmas. when i finally got to play is i was so baffled and disappointed, especially when i learned that stuff that was part of ts3 base game was just missing from sims 4 (toddlers, create a style, i think pools were missing as well) and the sims themselves felt weirdly robotic. i liked the new CAS additions and the building, but got bored after a few hours and went back to ts3. to this day i haven't bought any ts4 packs or even reinstalled it, and i last played ts3 a few days ago

Me who still haven't updated her game since 2015 😂

Loading screens and even more loading screens…cuz they enhance ,,performance“. Oh yeah, my performance is soooo enhanced by all the interrupting loading screens children.

my first sims game was sims 3 for the *wii* and it was all i had known up until sims 4 came out - and it *still* felt like it had more to do than the basegame sims 4 on release.

Your laugh is the reason I wake up in the morning! I love you and everything about you- been playing sims 3&2 and not looking at 4 at all right now..such a money grab

the sims 3 base game did not have hot tubs either. They started with Late Night, I believe

Hard to believe it’s been almost 10 years of the sims 4 and it’s missing so much compared to other games! It’s sad when I think of how much I’ve spent on the sims 4 when I rarely have time to even play with my busy life schedule! And to think where it is now… like I am a person that’s fine with no cars and such, but it’s crazy looking back at the sims 2 and 3 in comparison.

So true and so sad...... Unfortunately I never played the sims 2 and 3. But I did play the sims 1. I was so disappointed and bored when I played the sims 4 for the first time! The only thing that became better are the looks end how the builds look when you're a bit talented in building...... (and when you have all..... or at least a lot of packs). For me it's more a build simulator instead of a fun game..... I miss the sims 1 so much. And indeed all the prices are insane!

Thing is i do get some simmers, especially as I see simmers that have started with Sims 4, prefer/like or are used to having full control over the stories in their heads. Sims 4 is a game where basically YOU gotta have a plan on what to do next and what exactly you want your sim to be. Its a blank page you can write anything on it. But with other Sims games, ofc you start with a blank page and perhaps a scenario in your head too, however you dont constantly have to do everything for action.. Maybe you get fired cos you picked the wrong answer in the pop up, or got invited to a party to decided that your sim can choose to party that night instead of doing hw even tho theyre an A student, or found out your sim doesnt have chemistry with the guy you wanted them to be with. Or you saw a rally and wanted to join on campus, or saw art students drawing on grass… Games felt ALIVE without you needing to constantly control everything and command everything. When ur sims was attending a rabbithole class, you could observe other sims and enjoy seeing them interacting with e/o or slapping or whatever.. But in Sims 4, any townie sim is the same as a random NPC. Theyre just there for aesthetics, pack contents are divided into multiple packs so its already easier to be done with its gameplay and start waiting for the next pack after a few days of playing.. In other games things would also happen to you out of your control and your sim would be a townie that is trying to blend in, whereas Sims 4 is more of a dollhouse and anyother sim besides your active household, are there for YOU to fill their lives.. theyre nothing without your sim basically. And honestly having too much control to a degree of having a blank page even if u you start a save file, fits with Sims 4’s “friendly” theme and aesthetics where nothing bad can happen to the player unless they force it. Its cartoonish looks are child-friendly even werewolves look like theyre from a kids book, no burglars, deaths look funnier. And with the game’s initial rate, even if it is smth rushed from a scrapped online project, u can tell the objective was to cater to younger players unlike how older sims games were. Also is the reason perhaps that most simmers that criticize Sims 4 for being an aesthetic dollhouse game, are the simmers that are used to Sims games’ morbid, creepy but also funnily random side

I REALLY think a good game pack would be cars. Introduce a whole new world with build able driveways and cars with parking spaces like the sims 3. I really would love an autobody shop that’s NOT a rabbit hole and they could have things like formula racing, derby’s, and smash ups. I know cars in the sims 4 has sooo much potential, I don’t know why they’ve shied away from it this whole time.

I pre-ordered sims 4 and loaded in the second it was playable. I returned it in less than 6 hours and happily returned to sims 3 until a couple of weeks ago but I've got so many mods just to make sims 4 playable that it takes literally 4 seconds from when i click to when the pie menu pops up 😂

anyone who thinks SIMS 2 is the best era of the sims? so much character and you never had to pretend anything all the drama would happen on its own!!!

Since I am old as the hills, the "the new Sims game has nothing" happens everytime. From Sims2 to Sims3 was brutal aswell as Sims3 to Sims4. You just get used to having all the options.

Released unfinished, and every pack released is put on a system that is already not working...so every pack will be bugged and glitched until the base game is truly finished.

I didn’t even start playing TS4 until 3.5 years in when my poor laptop couldn’t take TS3 anymore and I only bought packs in bundles so I caught a lot of deals. They got me more recently where now I’m paying closer to full price but still refuse to buy a pack on launch date!

Yeahhh im still playing 3 with all its packs and like a mod or two, and i dont see that changing any time soon 😅

The fact that there are so many that you can make an entire video about A PORTION is just insane

oh god.. I was 8 when the sims 4 came out (alomost 18 now :D) and after 1-2 hours of non CAS gameplay I said to my dad "this sucks, I hate this!" and never touched the sims 4 again up til toddlers were added.

I can only imagine how bad it was upon release. I finally cracked and got S4 during the shutdown in 2020, having not even touched S3 for I don't know how many years at that point, and about 2hrs into the tutorial play I seriously regretted my purchase. Eventually I figured it all out but it was a nightmare to transition to, even 6-7 years into establishment.

also why do we have so many bars in the sims 4, but we don't have pool tables.

I can't believe how basic life elements like schools, most professions, laundry, apartments, restaurants, vacations, seasons, pets and many other things were not in the basic game

I just started playing sims 4 and keeping it base game. Sims 3 is still loaded and you're able to do so much more

Anyone else hit the like button before the video even starts? 😆 Love you Satch! Thank you for sharing your thoughts that we all are thinking and feeling about the Sims 4 😆 The Late Night pack just reminded me of how much I want better dances in the game. I need more options lol. The Sims 4 team has definitely made this into a snowflake version of the series because they're so scared of the cancel mob and god forbid that their feelings get hurt and get triggered because they literally can't handle anything in life that is difficult. It's EA, you won't ever be able to properly cancel them LOL. So thank you for ruining this series for us, snowflakes, just because you're a pansy when it comes to living life 😆

I really hope we get bands sometime soon because I’ve been wanting that for years and it’s crazy that it didn’t come with get famous or city living

1:26 the replay button 😳

I remember that when the basegame came out it was so dark.

😂 my wedding disasters was a pretty big one 😂

Love how the title of this video is also a dig at the most recent pack 😂🙌