oh thanks fbi, I can call you up to play games at my house easier (don't mind the door)

I would expect no less! 🥰

I'll turn your leg to spaghetti

AHH FBI, a bunch of liars who claim our country hacked your 2016 election....

Spying on the citizens of individualistic ideas....same bastards you feds are....by the way you will never catch any Russian Spies....they are everywhere....check your department

Made explicitly for this reason. Willing panopticon.

@Not gonna lie you can wait a little more, i aint clicking it

Convenience usually means easier for the consumer. (Ex. Less Steps Needed) The inconvenience goes to the the company”s product. Therefore the steps that were taken out for the consumer are now in the hands of the company’s own agendas

Damn a pip boy would be really sick hahaha. Idk if it would be as practical to wear on an everyday basis but surely what it did do it would have the potential to do much better

SO MUCH THIS! There are SO MANY COOL SHIT that are IoT or require minimal setup and try to make life so convenient for you, then you look at it and realize its always trying to harvest your data. It could work WITHOUT harvesting data, but it does so anyways. Well over half modern phones features have to be turned off if you dont wanna install a custom ROM and you care about privacy, shit that would be nice to have in general. Shit, you cant even have a fucking roomba without it being a potential data collecting ware nowadays.

Very well-said!

It's sick is what it is.

Similar happened with cable tv. First it was pay for no ads…

You will own nothing and be happy.

I don't pay for anything

it's actually not an option, they HAVE to ask you that, because they store it on THEIR servers, so THEY would get into trouble if they collected a child's data unwittingly, even if they're a perfectly good company that does nothing shady but also that's what you read the TOS and such stuff for, what do they say they can do with your data, like if they don't "share your personal information with select partners" or such, then it might be reasonably fine

@@jan_harald A perfectly good company that does nothing shady doesn't have to store that data on its servers. You can (and should be legally forced to) keep that kind of sensitive data local unless EXPLICITLY requested otherwise.

@@jan_harald you say that but all it takes is one "privacy agreement" update to fuck you over.

Plus, they could verify the data in better ways. Like a contract, rather than asking personal info.

On the Apple Watch there is a like “system” DOB for core functionality that doesn’t get shared with the apps. Each individual app (EKG, blood oxygen, VO2 max exe) asks separately for your DOB (sometimes only for the year), and each individual app has a different age limit (IIRC EKG is 22+, but VO2 max? is 20+). You can give each app a contradictory DOB and it won’t care, so long as the DOB provided for each app is before the cutoff date in that app only. I know I have lied to one of the apps before and there is zero pushback, and you can just renter a new DOB if it says you are too young. Clearly it’s just covering their legal liability with the AF stuff, there is no reason for them to collect this specific DOB when you already have an iPhone and an Apple Watch and thus have agreed to 3? licence agreements (iTunes/Apple ID, iOS and WatchOS), and have probably provided a more specific date of birth in other places. Also you can opt out of having this stuff stored on the cloud by turning off iCloud sync for health in settings, and this data is (according to Apple) stored with end to end encryption. I’m actually pretty sure this specific DOB is completely local as moving to a new watch you need to explicitly opt back in to ECG and renter your DOB here. I agree it’s not ideal but it’s pretty standard for Apple, which is basically just barely better than Google and sketchy android but not as good as full libre stuff.

you're a godsend man, had no idea 3rd party apps were available with zero built in tracking bullshit

Thank you for the based knowledge

@@dani1999n You need to know that some Smartwatches which are supported by gadgetbride need to obtain a token for communication. Some of them rely on extracting the token from the proprietary App such as for Xiaomi Mi Band's from Version 3 upwards. That means, you have to make an account, log into it with internet access, pair the watch, use Termux (if Root is available) and extract the token from the Apps's data. You can find more info on their wiki under Huami devices or something. Take care on what type of watch you'd get to avoid this task.

Thank you for your knowledge! I have a watch for 1 year (that was a gift) that I don't use because spyware app. Thanks to you and gadgetbridge (couldn't find it before without the name), I now have a working smartwatch that keeps my health datas for myself. as @timlpde said, it was a bit of pain to pair with the auth key needed, but after a few hours of pain I'm now happy.

@@TIMLPDE yh i have an amazfit one and i did have to get a python script to scrape it from the official app's data folder

I'm highly considering getting a Garmin ngl. just still not sure if I should go with the Forerunner series or the fenix one (if you have any reviews about them go on, I don't care about spending lots of money on a product if it's high quality)

I have a Garmin Forerunner. Super ugly but does the trick.

@@vicstoron i got a fenix 6 and its so great

If it doesn't come with the spyware, I'm not even interested.

@@vicstoron Got a forerunner 35. I'm not sure about the newer models but it isn't exactly a "smart watch", it's a sport watch. You don't have to worry about proprietary spyware when there are no apps on it. You get all the benefits of tracking your training/fitness without all the bullshit that comes with "modern smart watches".

zoomers basically swim in bad opsec

what's an opsec? sincerely, a zoomer

@@kingdededelicious Operational Security, I believe

@@kingdededelicious operation security It's said in the military that there's like 5 operations you always have to do to survive, and the most known and in common use outside the battlefield its that, opsec

Most don’t care. But I would

And ui changes can be probably made just by installing custum launcher

That's pretty awesome, actually. If it's spyware free that'd be perfect!

It measures it through your sweat

I've been using the Tactix Delta for over a year now and I feel the same. Garmin makes the best smart watches right now but I wish they weren't so expensive and that the OS was open source. And you know, for all the advancement in the last 10ish years, I'd still love to just have my old Pebble 2. Pebble were just a few years ahead of their time.

@@DI0NY5US They are more expensive because your data isn't subsidizing the cost of the product. I miss my Pebble...

… you bought a $1,300 smart watch to keep it offline, not pair it with your phone, and store some offline map data on it? That’s gotta be the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard bro 😂😂😂

@@SurfinTheKaliYuga seriously! you could buy a decent PC with that dough.

bro spent 1.3k on a watch to not use it 💀

Any projects started s of yet ?

We're living in the cyberpunk dystopia, just without the fancy neon stuff

@@yurikadzz depends on the area

@Scarlett Witch 🅥 can yall bots just get fked?

@@yurikadzz if I'm going to have my data collected, I want the fancy neon stuff

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Yeah, I had the first model of the Pebble. Loved it so much, I convinced a friend to get one even though it was already the age of Rebble. Only reason I didn't use Morpheuz more was because I never got used to wearing a watch to bed. I wish we saw more watches like it that focused on battery life and always-on displays.

I still use my pebble, got it in middle school. But I've always been mad that I cheaped out and didn't get the time steel. They were cheap asf brand new when I was buying, but I'm cheap asf too

Step tracking is spot on but the heart rate monitor wasn't all that accurate to begin with, they would have needed a few iterations possibly. Shame they fell through.

@@Camoceltic Sleep as Android is pretty stellar, but yeah, you have to be used to wearing it to bed. I got used to taking it off for 1 hour per week which is pretty awesome.

For me it's the GW-M5610U, the fact that it perfectly syncs the time with a radio signal is "smart" enough for me. It tells me the time, it has a few time alerts available, it has a stopwatch, it has a timer, it has world time, it's solar powered, it's shock resistant and water resistant, what more do you want from your watch?

@@supra107 Impressive. Very nice choice.

@@kalgonzo148 The only model that can rival it is the GW-9400 with the sensor. However 1) it's way more expensive and 2) it's way more bulkier. The GW-M5610U is probably the cheapest daily driver that just runs itself.

@@supra107 That sounds like what I have. It's put up with some serious abuse.

@@maxscott3349 The model name and the module version is always engraved on the backplate of the watch.

Basically. I use my phone less because of this. Siri has improved my life drastically.

Is it, though? Seems like doing all that stuff is a nightmare on a watch. Even phones can barely do it well, I don't see how they can get watches right. Take calendar for example. You can see, what? Today's events? No option for a 30 day view that's useful? A terrible user interface that takes forever, and you may as well use a phone or computer? I just don't see the use of the interface. I think good AR will be far better.

@@O1OO1O1 Before you read: I am talking about my experience with stock Samsung watch and phone if you have no interest save yourself some time. Most people use calendar to check current day events, you can create new ones with voice commands, but the 30 day view doesn't show your future appointments. Yet it is good enough to keep track of your day and you may do your planning and checking of future appointments once or twice a day in the computer and focus on the day with the smartwatch. Answering or denying calls is a breeze, just a quick swipe or even a gesture using the accelerometer and I'm talking. Speak to text is quite decent for longer answers, there are preprogrammed quick replies and the qwerty keyboard with swipe typing is good enough for the edge cases.

I agree. Aside from normal watch functions, I use my gear s2 primarily for calendar, weather, and email reading purposes. It's great for when I'm walking somewhere and want a quick, small dashboard of what I have going on.

For many of my activities even a phone is bare bones. But yeah, everyone has different need and wants. Yet there still are open software solutions that grant you your features without the privacy concerns

A couple things I've seen current smartwatches are alike to the pebble are in price and battery life. What matters to me is that it lacks a touch screen. No real replacement for the Pebble yet, how long has it been again? A decade?!

How do you flash astroid?

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You can find the instructions on the website. It's really not a complicated process. Even I got it done, and I'm not the most technically savvy person by far. It basically just amounts to enabling developer options, changing a setting and running a few commands through your terminal. You can even keep Asteroid parallel to the original os if you want.

Garmin also has stealth modes. Their watches are pretty popular with military members so they make them with privacy concerns in mind.

My 10 year battery casio watch:

I have a garmin instint and tbh I can't see why it would ever be e-waste. Unlikely to break and the features it has now will be just as good in 20 years. Only the more phone like smartwatches become ewaste.

The bluetooth is very promiscuous, at least on WASP-OS. I haven't used InfiniTime in a while.

Modern? No, closest thing you can get to new-ish FOSS car is any gasoline car without direct injection and replacing the ECU with Speeduino or rusEFI, which are FOSS engine ECUs. But there's not much point in doing that just to have FOSS ECU, older cars are generally not connected to anything remotely anyway.

Driving an old car is basically FOSS. Like above said, now you got to keep in mind the government wants to eliminate fossil engines and you never know what will happen in the future with prices for gasoline.

afaik you don't need to connect it bluetooth to your phone app or anything and you can just transfer the files of your training to a computer and open them with another app etc so issues with spyware don't seem to really exist on it if you just wanna use it for basic stuff like monitoring training/sleeping

Does it accept a wireless connection with no Internet? Not to mention, iirc, Google Watch devices force you to go through the Google Watch app on your phone for first-time setup. That means phoning home to Google and all.

@@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 No. You have to enable wireless debugging, and then run "adb connect [ip]" to connect to it like you would any phone. There is also wireless debugging over bluetooth, but I never used that. It's just easier to connect directly through WiFi. I'm pretty sure you would need to have it set up so you can access the watch's settings page, like you said. I don't know if rooting/bootloader unlocking is even possible through ADB, though. I'm more into programming than hacking lol.

@@imaperson1060 I meant connecting both the phone and watch to a Wi-Fi router that lacked access to the Internet. It also hasn't been easy to find if WearOS watches can be setup offline (that is, going offline after the wearos app has been downloaded to the phone) and skip transferring Google accounts to it. It appears they can though, but I don't know for sure. I barely trust Google after I found out how unusable basic Chromecasts are without 24/7 Internet access and a Google account. Those things just become bricks.

That would seem possible for the same reason you can print on your local network even if there's no internet. The only problem would be, as you said, with setting up without internet. It's possible and likely that you'll just be blocked from setup entirely. Tbf though not that much data is being collected on setup except that you _have_ a watch. I don't think you're required to do anything past link your Google account, and even on the Pixel Watch iirc Fitbit is optional (you just won't be able to track health stuff without signing in).

@@imaperson1060 Meh. I can still just make a new Google account on a spare, rooted, freshly-wiped phone w/ spoofed bluetooth address at a coffee shop, move the pairing key and app data to my daily driver phone and firewall the app out of the Internet forever after the deed is done. But I'd still rather avoid that hurdle entirely if I can. Not to mention, as a person that uninstalled Google Play Services, I know I'll find obstacles on that front, too. People have been succesful pairing on those phones, but it takes some... extra steps. And I don't know what features might be unavailable.

Nice username.

Same lol I just brought me a watch that looks like a calculator instead 🤝

I have a pinetime and it lasts maybe 5 days with it mostly on my desk, 3 or 4 days wearing it to work. The heartrate monitor is kind of trashy (sometimes saying i have 60 beats per minute) and the gadgetbridge app doesn't record it anyway. Mostly use the accelerometer to turn the screen on from a brisk wrist rotation, but you can just make it hypersensitive to always stay on. The biggest reason it stays at home is just that you can't see the time and music controls/song title at the same time, and that I didn't get a dev version to even try some smart home stuff. An ESP32 watch might be better if you just want some way to control offline smart home things over zigbee or something, since it only has a bluetooth antenna.

Guess I am a fed.

You can tell by the fluorescence

not only the watch glows in the dark

And a 100% chance of being on strava

I loved my pinetime but after about a year of use the wrist strap broke. And it's real pain to get a new one since any in person stores only care about apple watches. I tried to order a replacement strap from Barton Watch bands online and the material was too thick to slot into the groove so I ended up having to sand it down to make it fit. I really wish pine would just sell replacement watch bands. I'd just order a couple sets and I wouldn't have any other complaints with them.

@@theodis8134 I have family who own the Samsung watch and with some experimenting learned that 20 mm watchbands work for the pinetime. This sort of information should be on their website, a mistake on their part. I got a few replacement bands off Amazon. The one that comes with it definitely sucks.