Snapdragon X Plus is HERE | Windows on Arm gets HUGE upgrade!
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День томуQualcomm just announced the Snapdragon X Plus processor, an Arm-based processor made for laptops. This is a watered-down version of the already announced Snapdragon X Elite, but it offers most of the capabilities of the Elite, making it a better option for people looking to get the most performance bang for their buck. For more info check out our website: andauth.co/SnapdragonXPlus
00:00 Intro
00:15 Snapdragon X Series explained
01:23 Snapdragon X Plus launch
02:15 Windows on Arm explained
03:21 Apple M-series on Arm
04:10 Microsoft hasn't responded
05:31 Qualcomm pushing Microsoft
06:46 Gaming with the X Series
07:01 Will Microsoft get better at this?
07:55 Qualcomm sending a powerful message
08:48 Do we trust Qualcomm?
09:22 When we'll see real Snapdragon X laptops
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@halgrynshaun 11 днів тому
Need this in a Samsung Tab Ultra.
@YoutubeWatcher264 10 днів тому
Agree. Someone ported Windows 11 Arm on a Xiaomi tablet, so it is definitely possible.
@MB-yw7up 10 днів тому
This is exactly what ive been saying since they released the X Elite
@danielcunder7767 11 днів тому
yes, I am holding out with buying a new laptop till at least the MS Surface with Elite X is out for comparison. Performance will be there, its all about the battery for me. In a 14' form factor...
@deltax7159 10 днів тому
doing the exact same thing.
@zsueitam8470 6 днів тому
same
@mbennehar 11 днів тому
So "here" is all uppercase while ARM isn't!
@AndroidAuthority 11 днів тому
If you visit the Arm website their logo is all lowercase. We only capitalize the "A" because it's a proper noun ;)
@UteGirlz 11 днів тому
It seems that the company chooses to use 'Arm' or 'arm' as their trademark but the architecture is commonly known as ARM. (A general rule of capitalisation in English when using acronyms.) Microsoft uses 'Windows on Arm' on their website. Even though the phrase is more likely referring to the architecture rather than the company.
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
Clickbaity titles are cringe.
@BooleanCorporation 11 днів тому
It's a wrist computer, hence it's Windows on your Arm! Hmm.
@thisisjoshy 11 днів тому
In a year we'll all be moving to ARM! Can't wait!
@GK-qc5ry 11 днів тому
What is the specific benefit of Arm over X86? Speed?
@thisisjoshy 11 днів тому
@@GK-qc5ry Mostly performance per watt. So think of a high performance gaming laptop that actually gets 12-16 hour battery life when the X86 version would get less than 2 hours..
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
@@thisisjoshy You won’t be getting 12-16 hours on a gaming laptop with a discrete GPU, though. The onboard GPU is slower than PS4 Pro.
@lesleyhaan116 4 дні тому
@@GK-qc5ry keep using your x68 laptop as an desktop computer plugged in all the time
@crazy-man 10 днів тому
4:38 it's not emulation, it's code translation.
@silv3rArrow 5 днів тому
Exacly. "Emulation" is a big word that is resource intensive by design. Perhaps that word was chosen to make easier to understand but the audience for these videos is tech savy so why no use the proper terms?...
@Daniel-gl3si 11 днів тому
A decent laptop without a fan and great battery life would be very very cool Microsoft went with ARM for it's Surface books So they are hopefully heavily invested in Windows ARM as well
@lesleyhaan116 4 дні тому
now we will see if Microsoft doesn't make the same mistakes like they did in 2012 with the Surface RT
@HigherQualityUploads 11 днів тому
Microsoft's delayed implementation of ARM *was* Google's chance to replace Windows with ChromeOS. But the lack of professional apps and first party hardware holds it back.
@ocvjw8734 11 днів тому
Doubt it. Windows, macOS, and maybe Linux have had decades long longevity in the OS market. Chrome OS was always for a niche use case.
@obvinpro 11 днів тому
Dreamer
@TheTytan007 11 днів тому
Surface Pro 10 and Laptop 6 for customers reportedly releasing ONLY with Snapdragon this year should be rather telling about how serious Microsoft's commitment to ARM is
@andrewgr144 7 днів тому
On the Microsoft website, both the Surface Pro 10 and the Surface Laptop 6 are both already available for purchase (arriving in 2 days with Express Shipping), and both of them use Intel CPUs, without any mention of even the option to buy them with any flavor of ARM chips. This isn't to say that they won't announce versions that use the Snapdragon X chips when those chips become available, but it's definitely not the case that they're *only* using Snapdragon.
@TheTytan007 7 днів тому
@@andrewgr144 Those are variants available for businesses. The customer ones are yet to be announced
@mysterychemical 11 днів тому
8:16 Windows knew it way earlier when they released RT series. But, the issue is there was no any RISC processor manufacturer that was even interested in making desktop or laptop CPUs seriously. So, Microsoft had to just rely on mobile based processor with their Windows RT. The problem with Microsoft was they always focused on software and never on hardware which is why still to this date we see struggling Windows.
@GFourGadget 11 днів тому
Can't wait for this to rise in popularity amongst Windows device.
@vincelongman3264 10 днів тому
The X Elite is HUGE investment (literally billions) from Qualcomm in WoA. Qualcomm must finally be confident that Microsoft is finally taking WoA and getting it to a stage where it can be viable alternative for most users. I've said it before many many times, Microsoft was always the problem with WoA, hence why no other SoC Vendors were interested either (same as Google being the main issue holding back Wear OS)
@basdfgwe 11 днів тому
fk it, linux on arm!!!
@samarthnagar3856 11 днів тому
HELLL YEAAAAAAA
@skolarii 11 днів тому
Linux on Arm has been a thing for atleast 5 years now
@TheAngryIntellect- 11 днів тому
You can install Linux on pretty much anything... I've used it on dummy terminals. Those dell Wyse terminals etc.. even ran it on a USB stick on my f**king TV. But..... It's Linux. So you won't be using any mainstream apps or office products and won't be gaming properly or doing video editing or anything useful to anyone who wants to do real work or anyone who has a job... Linux has always been a decade or 2 behind windows and Mac and half the hardware doesn't work or doesn't have supported drivers, same with software. It's more of a play thing for bored tech people who want to put in extra effort just trying to get a mouse to work, or their video card... You know, people who like typing endless text commands into a command prompt instead of going "click".
@noimnotakpoppfpsheacy2526 11 днів тому
@@skolariihigh end commercial arm not some niche bs
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
@@TheAngryIntellect- Linux is installed on more machines than any other OS. The Internet runs on Linux. All big corporations servers run Linux. Most embedded devices run Linux. You have no idea.
@CANEHURRICANE 10 днів тому
After real world benchmarks and reviews...perhaps will get me one of these - my time for an upgrade is around the corner
@WarAlex16 11 днів тому
I just want to upgrade my Surface Pro X to the Surface Pro 10 with an Elite Chip, OLED Screen, and hopefully improved Pen stylus. I just want a productivity machine. I don’t care about gaming. That’s what my Steam Deck and Series X is for.
@kenkeller 11 днів тому
I swear to god, we’ll soon have all things with Plus, Pro, Elite, Pro Max etc. price levels. Or maybe anything slightly bigger/faster could be Pro. Like a Macchiato Pro. What’s pro about it? F*** if we know, but it sounds Apple-y.
@FirdausAmir 11 днів тому
Use snapdragon x plus on Android tablet , be the most powerful tablet 😂
@hydroxy 8 днів тому
Excited to have my hands on it
@AswinPuliyeri 11 днів тому
Hopefully linix gets more optimised for these newer chipsets. That would be the best for an average user like me who does mostly browsing, streaming and document editing.
@lukal707 11 днів тому
Idk if you tried Windows on ARM in the last few years but it's near perfect. I don't understand what exactly you need Microsoft to do more here. The real problem (as you mentioned with Chrome example) is the third-party developers and their non-existent support for arm64 on windows, which is out of M$ control. Hopefully, that will change now..
@Manuel-rl6um 11 днів тому
He is blaming Microsoft for Google not wanting to support Chrome on Windows ARM until recently, despite having ARM versions of Chrome for ChromeOS and MacOS
@chronometer9931 11 днів тому
Google is supporting arm64 chrome so that's not even true anymore. I'm on surface X and I can confirm that the rest of what you're saying is true. We just need the hardware now. I'd argue this video is full of outdated and or misinformation
@bricequirl 11 днів тому
Exactly! WoA has existed for years...Y-E-A-R-S! And it's quite polished at this point. Google has refused to simply supply Chrome for ARM64 on Windows this whole time. Google austerity towards WoA/ARM64 is exactly the same calculus they had towards Windows Mobile: big G hoped to completely ice Microsoft until the project went away. Well, Microsoft actually remained committed this time, and Google miscalculated. Google bringing Chrome to WoA actually demonstrates how GREAT the product is, not the opposite.
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
@@bricequirl Instead of ChromeOS, Google should have made a desktop version of Android. They dropped the ball on that one.
@bricequirl 11 днів тому
@@NoX-512 Samsung has already taken up that mantle w/ DeX. Wish they'd take it to the level and actually ship it on a Surface Pro like device. ...But you are right -- Google did drop the ball on that one. Big time.
@inamulbhuyan 11 днів тому
Snapdragon X Plus 🚀 🚀 🚀
@samarthnagar3856 11 днів тому
Damn the bots are on these days man
@udaysingh9_11 11 днів тому
And youtube wants us to subscribe to premium membership
@imtherealone.6268 11 днів тому
@@udaysingh9_11 I have premium and it's fine, but it doesn't filter out bots. Lol. It just gets rid of ads which is the nicest part.
@mutchlouis9707 10 днів тому
I had to get a MBP pro 14 due to the lack of alternatives. Can't wait to get back when they launch this. However, it seems like a long way until they get there.
@JamesField 11 днів тому
I know you've got to keep it simple for the UKposts audience, but it's notable that Apple has been much more invested in the RISC architecture than has Microsoft. Mac OS was primarily RISC-oriented from v7.x all the way up to v10.x (or "OSX"). And iOS was always designed for ARM, so Apple has been primarily RISC focused from around 1991 until now, only deviating to x86 for a relatively short intermission. Microsoft has also had RISC based offerings pretty much continuously since 1993 (Windows NT v3.1 - v4.0, Windows CE, and now Windows NT v10) but they have always played second fiddle to the x86 implementations.
@obvinpro 11 днів тому
Windows on Arm has good emulation, but the hardware was lacking. Imagine emulating x86 apps with smartphone chips. This new Snapdragon is design to emulation and power x86 apps.
@bumbeelegends7018 10 днів тому
This is a breakthrough if it is successful this will change the way of windows pc forever
@perrykeshahwalker5321 11 днів тому
Windows on arm has to greatly improve. Qualcom need to allow for removable ram and storage else its a no go
@andyH_England 11 днів тому
Tablets and mobiles are ARM, and nobody complains? Could you ask yourself why? The reason is when they came out, the tech had moved on, and there was zero need for upgradeable RAM, storage and wifi cards. Having soldered parts is beneficial to speed, latency, size, and cost. The legacy modular complaints are because people are stuck in the Intel world, that were stuck in time for years. No one expects mobile to have modularity, and the OEMs that tried this, notably LG, though not internal modularity, failed. Your view is old, although I agree that desktop PCs should still have modularity, not ultrabooks. This is 2024, and complaints like yours are now old news.
@perrykeshahwalker5321 11 днів тому
@@andyH_England this is important if your work flow is audio and video production. Being stuck with what you buy then having to pay a hefty fee for going from 8 gig to 16 gig of ram or 512 ssd to 1tbssd is ridiculous. This should be left to the user. If not, don't call the product a pro device call them toys.
@andyH_England 11 днів тому
@@perrykeshahwalker5321 If you run an audio business, buy what you need on day one. Common sense is the problem here, not lack of upgradeability. I have been using 8GB/256GB for office work for decades, and I never need it anymore and never will. Why spend $400+ on more storage/RAM that I will never use? Starting at 8GB/256GB is a sensible business, and people needing more should not even be looking at that skew. let us users be so we can save money.
@lukal707 5 днів тому
Wrong, WoA is near perfect. Hardware always sucked. Until know it seems..
@perrykeshahwalker5321 5 днів тому
@@lukal707 we will see1😀
@mysterio7807 7 днів тому
I thought Photoshop was already running on ARM in Windows. That alone kills a Chromebook.
@malcolmmoore9938 11 днів тому
This is a good update but the key thing that you're lacking is that Qualcomm and Microsoft had an exclusivity deal and that deal just expired.
@UteGirlz 11 днів тому
I'd be onboard if they can replace my giant ATX tower with something more miniature while equaling or improving the performance and user experience with ZERO compromises.
@MB-yw7up 10 днів тому
Samsung Tab s Ultra Series needs the X Elite chip 🔥. If the latest iPad Pro can have an m series chip so can the tab s Ultra
@maddominican879 11 днів тому
Well let the arm💪🏼race begin
@xperiafan5370 8 днів тому
6:49 And that's on emulation as well. Don't forget that
@aviavi4684 10 днів тому
Poor homework for a presentation on this!
@wanaan 10 днів тому
I want this is "mobile phone" form factor.
@kirkn 10 днів тому
the information in this video was all announced 6 months ago
@TheSonyExperience 11 днів тому
lets see a real product before we suck Qualcomm off
@vasudevmenon2496 11 днів тому
If the pricing is on par with Apple silicon then this is dead and simply focuses on few creator apps. This will only solidify x86 market share. You should double check WoA performance and performance is neck to neck with Apple according to Gary from Gary Explains
@ma7mgte 10 днів тому
Well, blame Google. Not WOA's issue. Edge is already ARM compatible
@maurindenouden8245 11 днів тому
Microsoft should push Intel, AMD and all big software companies to do the same for windows.
@ChrisAzure 11 днів тому
Apple and Microsoft approaches aren't different? Windows emulates x86, and Apple translates x86 instructions to ARM equivalent? 🤔
@Peterstarzynskitech 11 днів тому
They have to make windows on ARM better. But the processor needs to be as powerful as an I7.
@chronometer9931 11 днів тому
I'm already using the surface X which is arm64 and it works really good, video is badly outdated...
@AvalineSky 11 днів тому
I doubt these new processors will help. Windows on arm will forever be held back by the lack of native apps. The compatibility layers/emulation needed to run most all programs just kills performance. Any kind of medium to high performance workflow will be better on an x86/x64 windows system for years to come.
@chronometer9931 11 днів тому
I'm on the surface X which is arm64. The app ecosystem has changed, everything you're saying is outdated and not true anymore. There is very good support for arm64 apps on windows 11
@SinistralEpoch 11 днів тому
This video is objectively wrong about Windows on ARM. Windows emulation layer is the least troubling part of Windows on ARM. Parallels and VMWare Fusion running Windows on ARM only run via the Windows emulation layer. The only reason this is even possible is because Microsoft has put so much work into their emulation layer.
@andyH_England 11 днів тому
Yes, the emulation layer reduces performance by around 6%, though some apps have a worse degradation. But time should improve those apps. That is acceptable in the medium term until we get native WOA apps.
@hassejansson 8 днів тому
"save arm for windows", wtf, I have 3 pcs, 1 htpc, 2 surfaces win on arm, I dont want the old variant, the fanless feature and batterylife, always on does it for me..
@akansh1 10 днів тому
Petition to urge Microsoft to make windows on ARM better 👾
@SivaxReddy 11 днів тому
why does microsoft do it for ARM, when they have their own intel chips?
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
Microsoft don’t own Intel. They need to be competitive with Apple’s Arm based Macs.
@andyH_England 11 днів тому
Qualcomm has the ARM chips and they are similar to AMD, they are trying to grab some of that massive Windows market.
@dark_mode 11 днів тому
What I really want to see is Steam Deck on ARM.
@AvalineSky 11 днів тому
I dont. The needed compatibility/translation layers to make x86 games (basically all games) work on arm will nuke performance
@rishirajsaikia1323 10 днів тому
They will need two translation layers. One from x86 to arm and another for windows to linux.@@AvalineSky
@gregorywilson2124 11 днів тому
Don’t know why you focus on windows. It’s the applications. That is the problem. Windows can be ported quite quickly.
@stephena3900 11 днів тому
It's about time windows has a direct competitor to the M powered macbooks, i have the m2 macbook air and its been a great productivity machine
@kalban112 9 днів тому
Mianly it needs to be usable. Every try in the past with Windows for ARM, using Windows with low power pasively cooled chips atc was major fail. Even on Surfece Go (1-3) the Windows are absolutely unusable.
@yurriaanvanduyn 11 днів тому
Linux + RISC-V, yo.
@AvalineSky 11 днів тому
How many programs are compatible with risc-v? Id assume even less than arm
@yurriaanvanduyn 11 днів тому
@@AvalineSky For now, yes.
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
@@AvalineSky there are Linux distros that support it and Google is working on Android for RISC-V.
@lakshaythakur4980 11 днів тому
single core they will be around 10 percent behind m3
@chronometer9931 11 днів тому
That's awesome news
@andyH_England 11 днів тому
The M3 is last year's SOC. According to rumours, their 2024 M4 will come 3-4 months after the X Elite and will have a 15-20% uptick in single-core performance.
@lakshaythakur4980 11 днів тому
@@andyH_England I am just happy we are getting away from 8cx series..., this is still first gen product , that has some margin added to it.. ofcourse is they fk up 2nd gen . Then they are screwed.
@ThomasHoellriegl 7 днів тому
The biggest problem with Windows on ARM is ... Windows! 😆
@hirengandhi9083 11 днів тому
Im waiting to buy a windows laptop that is going to have good all day battery life simillar to a macbook. I dont want to buy a macbook because apple charges a pretty penny to upgrade ram and storage upfront at $200 a pop which is crazy. I have a base mac mini for hone use right now which i could have uograded when i bought it but because of the reason stated i refused. Also my wife doesnt like macOS prefers windows.
@ocvjw8734 11 днів тому
The lack of upgradeable hardware is probably something you'll see in Windows ARM devices too.
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
@@ocvjw8734But hopefully not the ludicrous prices Apple charges.
@hirengandhi9083 11 днів тому
@@ocvjw8734 its not the lack of upgradable hardware but how much is charged to be able to upgrade say from 128gb storage to 256gb option or to go from 8gb ram to 16gb and so on.
@ocvjw8734 10 днів тому
@@hirengandhi9083 true, I hope the price differences in ram and storage aren't Apple-esque that regard.
@AkashYadavOriginal 11 днів тому
Certainly no. Arm chips would mean end of laptop upgradability. Currently on PC side we can upgrade RAM and storage. But Arm chips will come with integrated RAM. Previous Windows on ARM devices had a locked bootloader so no dual booting with Linix or Chrome OS, even replacing the default OS was a hassle. And if OEMs go by Apple style, we can say goodbye to dedicated GPUs too.
@etismyname 11 днів тому
That's like complaining about unable to upgrade vram in the GPU. This is a significant improvement in performance worth the trade off.
@AkashYadavOriginal 11 днів тому
Are you for real!!! What is the significant performance improvement that ARM chips are bringing. Most of the performance to efficiency comparisons online are done against Intel who are really bad at power consumption. Try comparing them with some good AMD u-series chips and their performance to efficiency would not look less spectacular. Even the mighty Apple M series chips are just average when they have to do general processing, which is why their paid reviewers only show tasks like Video editing where M series uses dedicated accelerators to significantly boost performance. X elite too isn't going to be any more significant, with performance around AMD's u-Series and 15-20% better battery life in general processing. While being better at some tasks like NPU. Every user has different priorities, you might prioritize that extra battery life for the freedom to upgrade and change OS. I'll prefer upgradability. My 7th gen i7 laptop from 2017 still gets the work done. With upgraded storage and RAM, it has no problem running most tasks. Even though Microsoft locked it out of Windows 11 upgrade officially but can be easily done with a simple workaround if needed. But when the Windows 10's EOL deadline reaches next year, I'll just install Linux on it and give it to my daughter. And buy a Zen 5/6 or Intel 15/16th gen based laptop. Arm cannot even hold a candle to the longevity x86 PCs and laptops offer.
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
@@etismyname No, it’s not. Less freedom is never a good tradeoff.
@TamasKiss-yk4st 11 днів тому
If you really think thisnis true, i hope you still use a HDD and you never ever touched those more expensive and less max capacity SSD just because it's faster... or you don't even understand the difference? For example even the cheapest Macbook have 100GB/s transfer speed memory, what is required at least 2channel DDR5 and also required a PCIe 6.0 x16 slot for the GPU, and this is the lowest priced Macbook.. the high end M3 Max with 400GB/s required a laptop motherboard with 8 RAM slots and PCIe 8.0 x16 slot for GPU.. unless you use that Windows laptop, you only compare the HDD against the SSD and complains about the price different... i mean 32GB/s limit for the PCIe 4.0 x16 GPU and also about 40-50GB/s if you only have one RAM modul is 8-13x slower like the 400GB/s..
@AkashYadavOriginal 11 днів тому
@@TamasKiss-yk4st That's a really stupid analogy, ARM chips won't even offer 30% performance benifits that SSDs offered over HDDs. Switching to SSDs was worth the premium, you got much better speeds, high reliability, better security from the upgrade and you didn't even have to compromise freedom by switching to SSDs unless they are soldiered on to the board for iSheeps and some ignorant PC buyers. Of course I switched to Nvme SSD standard but not soldiered SSDs. I'm guessing you must be one of the guys who believes Apple's 8 GB = 16 GB on PC. And iPhone 60Hz is smoother than 120Hz on Android.
@AndrejDoms 11 днів тому
The signs are rising, based on info from OEMs, that Qualcomm cheated on the benchmarks and I will not have an opinion, until real hardware is in reviewers hands. A Everything else is just guesswork…
@kelly_software 11 днів тому
Is the X plus faster and powerful than the M3 Max
@TamasKiss-yk4st 11 днів тому
Not even the X Elite more powerfull like the M3 Max 😂 they are only compare their chip with the basic M2 and M3, sometimes with the M2 Pro and M3 Pro, but since if Apple use more than just 4 power cores than their 12 power cores looks poor, so they just try to fool you with the basic M3 performance (also there they just use the cooler on their chip against the fanless Macbook Air.. few leaked diagrams show that in Cinebench the X Elite had 23W peak and 23W sustained power consumption, but the M3 had only 19W peak and 8W sustained power consumption, so guess which one had a cooler and which one was fanless..) The M3 Max results are about 50% better like the X Elitr results (when 12 power cores goes against 12 power cores.. because the 15000 vs 22000 points difference are not because of the 4 efficiency cores..)
@kelly_software 10 днів тому
@@TamasKiss-yk4st Cool, lets see the architecture Apple will be putting into their upcoming M4 chips and see how these new X Elite and X plus will perform against it
@thedarkknight1971 11 днів тому
In my view, Microsoft REALLY NEEDS TO FULLY REBUILD Windows (maybe a 'New' Win12? version) that is smooth, responsive/snappy, powerful, stylish, AND VITALLY... WITH NONE OF THE ANALYTICS BLOAT BULLSH!TE !!! But... I guess, as usual, Microsoft WON'T learn by their mistakes... 😒 😎🇬🇧
@docyagamikiko 11 днів тому
Uhmmm.. What is ARM? ✋😢 Self proclaimed dummy here..
@henrybrar 11 днів тому
ARM means advanced RISC machines, basically a processor that uses less energy, low in cost, less heat generation for light weight lasks basically used in smartphones, lablets and now basic laptops.
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
It’s an Instruction Set Architecture (ISA). It’s the part of your computer that runs your programs. X86 is a different ISA, that currently is in most PC’s. The advantage of Arm is lower power consumption which leads to longer battery life.
@fort6564 11 днів тому
its arm on windows, not windows on arm, no?
@NoX-512 11 днів тому
No. The software runs on the hardware.
@D9ID9I 11 днів тому
It is irrelevant if M$ will make windows-on-arm better if Qualcomm does not have hardware decoder for x86 instructions like Apple does. The rest is trash talk.
@williamcopeland2617 11 днів тому
I'm good with INTEL.
@parthsethia4223 8 днів тому
where the fudge are the devices? such a botched launch!
@NopWorks 3 години тому
"The question is, is Microsoft going to make Windows on ARM better." then mentions how Google Chrome was ported to ARM only recently. Oh yeah. Basically, by far, the LAST major browser to support Windows on Arm; even though Microsoft have helped made Chromium compatible with Arm long ago. Let's not forget that this is Google. UKposts & Gsuite was quietly slowed down on Edge when it wasn't Chromium. There's the whole saga of stomping Windows Phone & blocking UKposts apps. The constant nagging to get Chrome long since the debut of Edge, and more. History has shown that Google & Microsoft has a big rivalry. They will try their best to hinder competitor's efforts. Not releasing Arm version of Chrome is a part of it. Since everyone uses Chrome, Google was trying to make Windows on Arm feels slow. So customers either have to choose between Arm (slow) or x86 (battery draining) Windows laptop... or they can get a fast & power efficient Chromebook. It's just that these new Qualcomm chips will likely be the turning point making Windows on Arm a real option for big part of the market, so Google have no choice but to comply. Otherwise, people might just switch to browser that supports Windows on Arm - which is every other browser, even Firefox supports it day-one.
@Alexx_80 10 днів тому
This guy has no f...in idea what he's talking about. Windows native ARM apps exists today, and there are plenty of them.
@maddominican879 11 днів тому
Windows RT 2.0
@rakeshravindran3147 5 днів тому
The claim that “hardware is not the problem, but software is” is a load of bull. The reason for slow adoption of ARM on windows is all about hardware. Even on Mac, with M1, it took nearly 2 years for many creative suites to have M-native builds. The reason developers committed on putting ARM on their roadmap for M1 is b/c M1 was genuinely more powerful in every way and the benefits for spending money had big payout. On Windows, ARM offering was a poor hardware that couldn’t even compete with the low-end Intel on both performance and cost perspective. With this new offering, it will change, assuming the chips are decently powerful enough and cost-effective to target average users. You need to more research before making videos like these. “Microsoft needs to answer”, “Microsoft needs to make Windows better” is all bullshit. The third party developers like Google, Adobe has to see a hardware platform in demand before they can prioritize the work. “Windows” doesn’t need to be better. Windows on ARM already is pretty neat for developers to build cross-platform solutions. But the whole laptop-world has to push forward. This is what made all the difference for Apple.
@TheAngryIntellect- 11 днів тому
Explained nothing. Showed nothing. I'm just as wise as I was before watching this... So the question is, what did I just watch? And why?
@djxcel23 11 днів тому
Nice
@enac1544 11 днів тому
Shame it’s not really anywhere near the Apple chips in terms of efficiency. It draws around the same as the M3 Max at ~70% of the CPU performance but nowhere near the NPU or GPU performance. Not to mention M4 is on the horizon. Good first effort, not great.
@felipe367 10 днів тому
21% faster than m3 typical cherry picking from crapcomm
@3mar00ss6 11 днів тому
I don't care arm suck. regardless where it's used if I wanted a pathetic one trick pony I would just buy a smartphone
@VishwasRavindran92 11 днів тому
In your dreams. Apple’s SoC hands dowan always will be fastest
@chronometer9931 11 днів тому
Why would you think that? History has shown the opposite...
@andyH_England 11 днів тому
@@chronometer9931 The best Snapdragon X Elite versus the best M3 chip (excluding the M4 arriving in November) would mean the M3 Max destroying the X Elite. That is why 100% of the X Elite laptops will be in ultrabooks, as even their best skew is destroyed by Apple's M3 Max, let alone the best desktop Intel machines.
@ehtasam960 11 днів тому
@@andyH_Englandlunar lake will destroy everything Goung to lunar and beyond
@maddominican879 11 днів тому
No hardware can save windows windows sucks on arm
@lukal707 5 днів тому
no
@MrPerrisC 11 днів тому
X86 has ALWAYS been faster than Apple M, their best has always lost to x86 best, but they compare it against midland x86 so they look good, Apple M needs exponentially fewer transistors to still lose. Most using laptops get them plugged in 90% of the time, longer battery life is nice, but most of us need more power when plugged in For instance, Apples BEST cpu is the DESKTOP m2ultra, with 100 billlion transistors, it loses to the amd hx, a LAPTOP cpu that only has 10 billion transistors. The xelite is crap, loses to 1 year old x86 and is only 10 percent more efficient, the xelite needs a MORE powerful ARM, not one crippled, and it needs to come in UNDER 1k, for anyone with knowledge to buy it I just ordered a faster cpu, (7940) with 40 gigs ram, 1tb SSD, $900, there's no way someone with knowledge is buying an xelite for more than that unless it has more ram and double SSD Right now, ARM is pure false marketing, it's NOT the future, an underperforming choice, not close to being performance alternative. By the way, there's x86 emulation that doesn't lose much in performance, anyone can run a normal windows on their PC arm hardware,
@kennnnn000 11 днів тому
You buy a laptop for portability and not bringing a brick to charge plus you don't get 100% performance without plugging it in is ironic
@MrPerrisC 11 днів тому
Ken I think you missed the part where xelite is only 10 percent more efficient than the higer performing, year old x86? AND you don't know, run your laptop off the wall so you' don't burn through charge cycles? with my use I'd need an M battrey every year, on the wall whenever I can,, once in three On equal performance, out of a ten hour battery x elite gets 11. ya, that's groundbreaking, right? BTW, by the time xelite is actually available, so will zen 5 or 6 on more efficient NM than now, making it even more performant and efficient, I mean xelite loses already, imagine when it faces equally current x86 And I suppose carrying a gan charger is tough on some, it's nothing to most, I add a battery to facilitate even longer life, this is somehow not portable for arm promoters I guess Thanks for the discussion and this is the last of my contributions. I'm just adding balance to the "exaggerated, (false) marketing of both arm and xelite, so peeps don't buy the hype blinded, just wait till it's actually released, to find out if it does what the marketing claims (it won't unless what they release is better than the current samples demonstrate) Cheers
@JamesForward91 День тому
Ehh, no, because you seem to be comparing max performance vs max performance, which isn't the goal, it's max performance efficiency tradeoff. Try finding a Windows laptop that uses x86 chips with the same performance and battery life as an M3 Max Macbook Pro. Good luck
@MrPerrisC День тому
@@JamesForward91 Ehh no? I remember that! that was so long ago, I think college, thanks for the memory! nice, I got one back: ahhh, that's a HARD no, that's apple marketing, but go with that. Pro tip, dispense with the kid stuff if trying to make a valid point it's more inducive to intelligent conversation rather than digressing into insults hardly anyone needs a laptop more than a few hours off grid, those that do, ya, go ahead and get that second rate cpu, it's best for you. I get best for me, which (happens to be) best performance, I get my tablet when I need battery life btw, NOBODY should have their laptop unplugged when a plug is there, unless of course they like paying for new batteries Thanks for the discussion, I'm out
@vedanshchn 11 днів тому
They wanna be Apple so badly
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