I hope the Sims 5 is not just online, some people really enjoy the game offline. (Like me)

If they execute the multiplayer functionality in a similar way to Animal Crossing, where it’s invitation-based. That would be excellent. That strategy would appease everyone!

I'm sorry you say about how Lindsey's favorite game is Animal Crossing and my first thought is "well, how much do you play the Sims 4?" Because part of the reason Sims 4 is the way it is is because LINDSEY said she didn't like the chaos in the other sims games, she didn't like making a sim and setting it all up to "tell a story" and then a meteor hits and it messes up what she wants to do. So she directly is one of the reasons that Sims 4 is the way it is because thats what she wanted.

I have played The Sims for about 24 years now. I saved up my money bought The Sims when I was 10 I saw the big cardboard cutout at Best Buy and KNEW I wanted that game. It took me about a month to save 40$ (40$ was a lot in 1999) and asked my mom to take me back to Best Buy to get it. And honestly I think I’m gonna just cap it out at 25 years. And put it down ending with TS4. Bc I see where this is going… it’s turning into a totally different game at this point.

One solution I can think of is this: you’ve got your singleplayer game, with your worlds, households and lots that you created and modified, and then there’s a separate world that’s specifically designed for multiplayer gameplay. You can make your sims visit this world and interact with your friends’ sims and stuff, all while it doesn’t temper with your own save files.

I think the MMO model scares legacy players the most. I don't want my Sim out there romancing what I think is an NPC but it turns out it's some guy in Iowa who gets his jollies by woohooing with strangers online.

_"the sims community does not have friends and we also dont have friends who play the sims"_ 😭😭😭😭😭

I can't be the only simmer appalled by the idea of multiplayer and the capacity for another player to destroy my family dynamic. Co-op with friends would be terrific. Strangers? Not so sure. Maybe it'll be invitation based (and isnt' that just co-op?). Gah. Sounds like they're jumping on the "copy Animal Crossing" bandwagon instead of sticking to their own games and what makes them so great. Let's not forget they want multiplayer and always online to bombard players with microtransactions. $$$EA$$$

Omg that ending with the brutally honest assessment of simmers being people without friends 😂🤣 I feel so seen! This is why we follow simstubers, so we can have parasocial friendships 😂😂

Lol 😂 “How is multiplayer going to work when none of us have real friends and none of us have friends that play the sims?” It’s true.. they need to know their customer base. Also, FACTS!

This is gonna be the sims online. Where you pay to get a house for your friends to visit but the default is an apartment

For anyone who actually wanted a sims 5 meta verse, please just download second life 😂

as a total loser, I hate that they've been aiming towards online experiences instead of stimulation of a reality. IMO that's got nothing to do with the core of what The Sims is. The evolution of the concept should be emulating a parallel reality, not Second Life. I think they should make a spin-off game, like a "The Sims Online 2" if that's what they want.

Looking at the group, which ea tackle at the moment, online is dangerous. We have kids playing the game, we have realy sensitive players and we have even harsh players. As seen on the discord server, the players dont get along well. So... bringing them together is a fantastic idea.😂

I'm not sure if I wrote this here before but if I had a say on Sims 5, this is how it would look: The Sims 5 base game needs to start off meaty. Weather, all life stages, cars, open neighborhoods, small animals, apartments instead of houses, shops for basic needs. THEN expand on all of that with DLC for better/fancy shops, organic food markets, farming packs with all types of farm/ranch animals including pigs, goats and horses. If they want to expand on weather, perhaps do big storms like tornados, earthquakes that actually make sense, floods, etc. Those are things that get expanded plus people who can run it on their PC can buy them without feeling like they are missing out on anything since they at least have the juicy stuff. Open neighborhoods are a MUST as well.

I don't want random people invading my game I'm cool with controlling all of my game so my experience won't be ruined. But I am looking forward to you play it😊

I'm not worried about it only being apartments because I think the sims teams are aware that a large chunk of their clients only play the game to build houses, hence why the build mode in sims 4 is the only mechanic that is consistently good.

i like the invite only experience if it is multiplayer. i really want the game offline, i want to control everything. i wish they spent more of their time into lore. that's really what made the first three games and they ditched it basically in sims 4. i love the game play and lore of 2 but the building of 4, that would be my perfect mix

Sounds like an updated Freeplay to me. And lots of simmers play other games as well. I play Dungeons and Dragons Online (MMO), Conan Exiles (Survival Crafting either solo, coop or multiplayer servers) and 7 Days to Die (also Survival Crafting, play solo or coop or multiplayer) currently. I actually like coop play best as I can choose a small group of people (uh, yes I have friends and family LOL) who want to do the kinds of things I want to do, so I've played a ton of coop games. But multiplayer can be fun too - even 'let's all kill each other' in the right ways and places. But I enjoy Sims for a different experience, not one I can get in some other game. For all this time (I've played the sims since it came out and I was a young adult then) the sims has been unique. They keep trying to turn it into some game that already exists. I don't need that.

"We're all losers and we don't have any friends." 😂 In the Sims Mobile, they really tried to integrate real world friendships in the beginning. We could go to each other's parties, and send gifts to one another. But guess what I don't have IRL? Simmer friends! 🤦‍♀️😂 When I played the Sims Social on Facebook, I had to make a bunch of fake Facebook accounts just to send myself rewards to help me in the game. My real world friends are all scattered around the world, but they also have better things to do than play The Sims. I really hope The Sims 5 learns from the mistakes they have made in previous games, and not hinder the success of the lone wolf Simmers out there!

I feel like Sim's should mostly be single player experience, and I don't need actually people dropping in randomly. However, I think multiplayer would only be good (for me), if it was like Second Life, in a way. Where custom content creators can have their own shop, that you can actually visit in game and browse, try things on, and purchase. I feel that would be amazing for players and content creators, having everything integrated, and a more immersive shopping experience. And being able to invite people to your lot would be ok, but not something I am looking for in options.

If I remember correctly, they did previously say that the sims 4 and project René (not sure how to spell it, sorry) will run at the same time, I believe that Project R isn't for simers, sims 4 will be for simers and they'll continue releasing stuff for that for us, but Project R is for the wider gaming community so that they can continue to bring more money in

I'm one of those who never ever play multiplayer in any game like I love being alone and doing things alone, I legit wouldn't buy Sims 5 if it were multiplayer only. It's not even that I wouldn't have any friends (I have lots actually) but more that I don't want to socialise when doing things I love or even really share them with others like that. It's not really relaxing to my autistic ass if it includes socialising lol

sims 5 needs too let players buy and drive cars etc too I think that would be pretty cool

Ngl, the fact that a lot of people didn't know what MMO's were, is proof simmers definitely exist within a bubble lol

I have never been less excited for a sims installment. Maybe it will grow on me but I just know this is going to be so expensive and filled with bugs. I have been playing since sims 1 came out.

im an adult and i just dont want to play with teens lol thats my biggest gripe with playing online

Im with you on not wanting people being in my worlds. I like the generated Sims and me. Lol

This was the funniest thing ever said in World Chat when I was into playing MMOs with a marriage system. A player got married in-game and was raging that the girl he married was a guy in real life. "MMORPG: 'Mostly Men Online Role-Playing Girls!'" (Perfect World 2006-10 was so fun!🤣)

I can't imagine multiplayer working out. If they do it right (I'm dubious), old simmers won't interact with it, cuz it's single player rp that we're into. They're doing what game companies keep doing where, in the spirit of getting new customers, they will alienate all their old faithful audience (D&D 5e, anyone?)

Satch, thanks for the updates!

Sims 4 is the bestselling Sims games because gaming is more accessible than ever before. Sims 4 basegame digital copies is also available for sale on release so people do not have to go out to grab a physical disc, and it has VERY frequent deep sales too. My worries with modding is that it's going to be restrictive. To have CC in multiplayer, Sims game on other people's device have know where to automatically download the missing CCs from somewhere. EA has to basically host the CC files for people joining to download. I don't think we even need to go that far to Wicked Whims & violence mods; I don't think EA wouldn't want to host Custom Sliders and other kind of mods that can make the game look "broken"

HONESTLY im waiting for Life by You.

I'm glad you can admit we are losers. Makes me feel seen haha 😂😂❤❤

What appealed to me the most about the sims was that it was a single player game, then there was the disaster that was sims online! 😂😂 I wish simsville had happened specifically like the trailer made it look. They say it became sims online, but I wish they’d gone with the first idea : simsville

The unfortunate thing about the multiplayer mod for Sims 4 is that everyone playing together has to have the same game version and the same mods and CC.

I'm glad you said the quiet part out loud, even if I wanted multi-player, please point me to them because it would be cool to have a simming friend.

When the loading screens was "announced" for for rent I saw so many people defending it 😭😭😭 like why, that's such a nightmare

There needs to be limits also to what can be done in multiplayer to protect the users.. such as no woohoo with real people or realworld chats etc

People forget that when Sims 1,2 and 3 were released gaming was a niche market, TS3 was still been sold on disks, and the transition to a digital-only format occurred between 2012 and 2014. It was only during TS4 times that gaming became a mainstream form of entertainment. So, it's only logical that TS4 has the biggest player base/most sales because gaming as a whole has become popular, and had an easier point of access for consoles, and gaming PCs (except for the last 2 years with crypto inflating GPU prices), etc. Plus being the only real life-simulator in the market, that won't be the case for very long. Now for my personal opinion... I don't like games with multiplayer if they aren't competitive. Didn't much enjoy it in Dragon Age, Mass Effect 3's multiplayer was fun but not the game of my life type of thing, for a long time I was a WOW player (came back for the classic, left again after my nostalgic self was sated), and I'm loving BG3 co-op. But Animal Crossing and other cozy-only online games just don't make me interested in any way. Not really interested in The Sims 5/Project Renee. Can't wait for LFY and their 38 creator tools model to see how much chaos I can create with their autonomy.

If the Sims 5 was an MMO it would just turn into a sex simulator. I bet the Sims team thought of that.

I'm so excited for the Sims Movement Expansion Pack!

You are right about having no friends, but most or all of my friends have passed or are too sick to do anything or go anywhere so they don't really play the Sims 4 at all anymore. I love playing the Sims 4, but it needs a lot of improvement yet. I don't watch your channel at all ,but this caught my attention when I was looking for a video to watch. Hope you have a good day! I hope Sims 5 is better than 4, I am already looking at other games to play if the Sims team pulls another Sims 4 on us.I will be done with the Sims franchise for good then!!

6:05 You take that BACK!! My sims will forever have a special place in my heart. I used to play it on my Wii. Haven’t had a wii in years so I’m planning on getting it from the EA APP as soon as I can afford it. Satch you broke my heart when you said that 😂 MySims is a classic ✋

They can literally throw away that project lol ~ Inzoi is completely going to crush it no matter what they do ^^

They saw INZOI and were probably like oh shi

I think I’m going to stick with sims 4 (sometimes 3 too) for a while after it’s released bc I’m just not sure about this new generation of sims

you know what project Rene starts to sound like? Fancy habbo Hotel. And, tbh, I'd be here for it.

Sims Busting Out on console had multiplayer it was cool other than how the screen was split.

It seems strange to me that they talk so much about Animal Crossing New Horizons, when the online in that game is almost non-existent. The online in animal crossing new leaf was cool. In my head I always compare the Sims 4 with Animal Crossing New Horizons, because in both games (in my opinion) they left the essence of the saga and focused on the decoration.

I'll be sceptical here and say that it will be like Animal Corssing but your island will be your apartament 😆

i dunno, satch. I feel like The Sims as a whole for me died nearly at the end of the sims 3 lifespan, everything else is just dissapointment after dissapointed and the franchise feels NOTHING like the sims anymore, the only sims thing it has is the title.

Weather in the base game, maybe without any weather-related activities. E.g., snowboarding, skating, biking, tanning/building sand castles, etc. (and even seasonal holidays/festivities) could be in DLC packs.

I liked how they did the Sims Online so it would be cool if it was a seperate service so that way you could have your own game and then the online services

Me and my bestie can't wait for multiplayer! 🍓❤🌿🌴

I don't know how Sims Online handles time but I think the time will be universal and there's no feature that can speed up time. The actions themselves would be faster and cheaper so that we won't get bored seeing things go in real life speed such as walking, cooking and taking baths.

if the Sims 5 has weather, apartments and cities on a base game, then it makes me think that the expansion packs might be deeper like, "life in the country side" or "pets" in the sense of having more animals with like birds, rodents, etc. Also expansion packs like Zoo's, amusement parks, vacations, etc, I feel like the expansion packs will be deeper, and its no surprise they're actually taking their time building the sims 5, its gonna be out in like 5 years literally, lol, but I expect it to be really well made, like drivable cars, more stages and life stages, between toddler and children, between children and teen, and between adult and elder, we might finally get different heights in adult sims too, I feel like it will be open world but divided in zones, like "downtown", suburbs, woods, periferia, etc not semi open worlds, but actual open worlds, divided in categories that obviously take loading screens but thats fine, I also think the jobs won't be rabbit holes, if u see the demos it says "office" on the second floor of the grocery store and stuff, we might get to visit real places, not rabbit holes and actually do groceries, or get your sims to work in one, coffee shops, restaurants, and who knows, maybe they will add a school for children and teens, just a small school with simple things but an actual school, you know, like a few classrooms with desks, a teacher, children sitting down, and going to recess, only small things but thats cool

why are they so obsessed with multiplayer?

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If the sims 5 had a focus on gameplay such as: improving a town, and growing a farm, like in animal crossing and Disney dream light valley etc, it would definitely make the base game more enjoyable, and feel like a modern game. Having to to put ingredients into a stove a chef when learning to cook, and having another game mode to control your sims so it’s easier to perform various task quicker instead of painstakingly clicking multiple times.

sims is like my getaway game I’m addicted to and don’t talk to anyone for two weeks at a time. not multiplayer vibes for me x

Going with an online focused route would be betraying their core longtime fans. The appeal of the sims for most people is that you have your own little world, that’s why people say the sims requires creativity to be enjoyed because the fun is that you get to create stories and places and worlds with your imagination and have a visual to it in the game (how do you think people played The Sims 4 until about six years of DLC was added and the game had enough content). The single player experience of this game is why everyone experiences the phenomenon of sitting down to play for 2 hours and looking at the clock and it’s been 5, you just get really immersed in your own world. I would love to be able to have my roommates come visit my sims world and see my builds through an invite system like animal crossing, but anything further being mandatory (as long as singleplayer is an option and the gameplay isn’t hindered by not using multiplayer) would just be going against why people enjoy this game in the first place.

I feel like the multiplayer aspect could work if everybody had their own standard single player sims game but there was one specific town that you can travel to and it is an open community where anybody can join the server. Once you’re in this server town you can meet up with rl friends,/ meet new friends. Once you’re there you can choose to ‘swap numbers’ with sims and then you have the ability to go back to your game and then invite the friend/ randomer into your town via the phone or computer by ‘sending directions’ l (similar to opening the airport/ gate in AC). Then they can visit your house/ community lot etc. i think that would be the best way to do it as you’re able to play with your rl friends and also meet new ones if you so wish. The only issue is the chat element, would there be an integrated chat function for you to talk to other players in-game? Like with sims simplifying their gameplay to cater to younger audiences, would this element work.. hmm

I hope it can be like Dr.Gluon’s use of the multiplayer mod and you can manage which simmers have access to your save. That way you could temporarily invite them, they could like explore your world but then you could boot them out if they’re doing too much.

I think they previously said that Seasons would come in the base game, and DLC might be “Winter Games” or “Summer Sports”, etc.

I Thank you for sharing your thoughts and the info you've gathered around this. I'm worried Project Rene will not be a good platform for making machinima. I would hate to be in control of only one sim per a save. I do have to say I'm surprised not many are talking about The Sims Online (which was basically Sims 1 MMO) that failed (Maybe I'm so old that I played it, I did enjoy it, but eventually had to stop playing it since it required a monthly payment..) what makes them think Project Rene (Sims 5) as an MMO would be sucessful? We may not have a lot of friends, but doesn't mean we don't like making friends, we just prefect to have the options between being alone a little more than being with others. XD

i think it could fun if the sims 5 operated like a game such as minecraft where you have your own space but you could also join online servers

I wonder if it’ll be like Sims 3 Showtime, where we could send a sim to “Tour” our friends worlds, but make it more playable like get to work where you can have the chance to travel with them and then have the MMO experience or you could choose to send alone, and receive some goodies on their return!

This is the first time I'm hearing of loading times between apartments... what? Listen, I know the Sims community isn't very tech savvy and most of them use rather old PCs, but EA is acting like it's still 2008. At this point, even "older" PCs do not need those loading times.

I feel like world adventures multiplayer could be fun. Big tombs you can solve together. Of course you would have to be able to do it own your own because trolls exist, but that would be fun

3:27 Call Me Kevin did multi player with his girlfriend where they played in an apartment. I forget the details, but they have done this twice that I recall and it’s probably more like what a sims multiplayer would be. Also the Dr. Gluon group has, in addition to the board games, played as toddlers and some other actual gameplay vids.

I dont need a sims 5- I just need a complete sims 4 enhanced edition, where they fix every bug, add more to every expansion pack, and just add so much more and fix so much more, that would be great

my first house stuff is gunna be a HIT !!!

Wow you didn’t have to expose me like that within the last few minutes of the video 😩 but you’re so right hahaha

The roast at the end was too real

If there are loading screens in the new Sims 4 expansion, then I won'T buy it. I ask everyone to join me and fight back against the developers. Because it's a shame!

I'm a long-time Simmer, and I personally do want to play a The Sims 5 multiplayer mode! The thought of something like Stardew Valley comes to my mind, where you can gather with a few friends and share a household or live in the same neighborhood with them. Kinda like Vivaland, maybe? But I'd still want The Sims 5 to be mainly promoted as a single-player game, mainly.

I wish sims 5 is going to be sims 2 mixed with sims 3 and they just update the graphics 🤷🏻‍♀️ with everything and everyone being present online I would rather appreciate more offline games

I would like a multiplayer option where you invite your friend and they can rent a house in your world and they can do anything they want with the furniture on that lot, find a job, move in together etc kinda like the sims 2

One thought on how they came up with the name project René for the SIMS 5. Back in 1993 a new Star Trek spin off series aired called Deep Space 9. One of the main characters was "Odo" he was a shape shifter. The name of the actor who played the part of Odo was "René Murat Auberjonois" Just a long shot but maybe, René the shape shifter is connected with the SIMS 5 or some kind of symbolism.

When i first heard about multiplayer, i was thinking that they might implement a similar system to Genshin's co-op where you can request to join someone's world and the world owner gets a little timed pop up in the top of the screen, which means that you don't have to accept their request, and if they do join the actions they have in your world is restricted. So it can be both invite and random join requests that people can accept if they're bored. I doubt it'll be an MMO game because I really don't see how that would work.

My experience with mobile games and ‘visiting’ friends, some of the quests can’t be completed without them.

I hope the multiplayer is just an option in which you can adjust in the settings, and not built in.

You can also have ither people on the same switch jojn ur island so i hope that’s included too where we could change permissions and allow people to live in your world kinda like stardew online play

I hope they have different types of multiplayer online situations. Like the S4MP MOD is a perfect representation of what would be an amazing multiplayer for some of us who would also like to play with friends because its invite only and you can still play the sims offline/singleplayer as well. But it would be nice to have the multiplayer to have like a customizable space/lot and then be surrounded by people you don't know as well. Like have both, it is doable! And singleplayer would be like usual...offline except gallery adds. Also, I still stand by stating that the Sims 2 was probably and will probably always be the best sims game.

my worry is cc and mods. if i invite someone to my lot but they dont have the same cc downloaded to their pc how would it even function?

Hahahaha thank you for being our voice to tell the Sims team not to be shameless. You spoke out exactly what I wanted to say. I'm scared for the Sims 5, I have major trust issues after the sims 4. So, the sims team! Earn our trust, please! Go back to the existing packs for the sims 4 and solve the glitches and develop the existing packs further to add value for money. Apply the new features from the newer packs like swimmable lakes and quirky and interesting NPS's (like Greg) to the older packs. When this is done, I will dare take a look at the upcoming Sims 5.

I cant wait for the S5 buildbuy EP !! Itll be nice to build a house i will never have 😁😁😁

When he called me a friendless loser, he was speaking into my real soul!

You didn’t have to come for me so hard at the end of this video lmao 😂

sad to see The Sims going towards MMOs. I guess this will be the end of the modding community in the new installment

You can have multiple people have one island and play together as a follow the leader type of playing.

My one friend plays the Sims too so playing with her in game would be awey😂

Sims is a "play with life" dollhouse, anything else is just a Sims "skin" on a different game. I love Sci-Fi and have read many books with the genre - it seems to me they want to herald that first. But for that, you'd have to create a new game with a totally new "core concept" i.e. no longer the Dollhouse experience or even "play with life" concept In one of the books, you could log in online with your avatar that you control like in Sword Art Online VR type system, and go shopping and other crazy stuff... I think EA wants to use Sims as a platform for this new concept = not Renew the style (new dolls and tools) but the core of the game.

I'm not a loser and I play the sims... I'm just very introverted and I rather be to myself because alot of people have evil intentions 💯

I just saw a game called Vivaland. It looks like The Sims 3 where you can interact with other player if you choose to do so.

I'm probably not the target demographic for this game but I am a 38-year-old mother with a full-time job. I don't know anyone who plays the Sims (except one of my students whom I would not contact outside of school for ethical reasons). Who on earth would I invite over to my Sims house. I have been playing the Sims since I was 14 and I am just fine with it staying single-player. If they implement an animal crossing style multiplayer thats fine because I played animal crossing just fine with never inviting anyone over to my island.

i hope it's online and other people can visit your house

You are 100% correct that TS5 will make or break. There are similar games on their heels. You are also correct about friends.

Definitely an all around gamer. I play all sorts of mmos, fps, simulation, ps5 games so The Sims 5 being online doesn't bother me. It is something I'm looking forward to, but there should definitely be an offline and private/friends only server mode. Kind of like GTA V.