So...What Happened to The Sims 4? | Part Two: The Downfall
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It's no secret that The Sims 4 feels significantly different from its predecessors, but why is that? To continue this investigation, I detail the structural gameplay differences between The Sims 4 and its predecessors and analyze how well the game holds up to Will Wright’s initial example.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
ACT ONE
01:33 - Act One | The Original Framework of The Sims 4
ACT TWO
06:19 - Act Two | Life Simulation in The Sims 4
06:36 - Emotions
08:25 - Traits & Aspirations
11:03 - Whims
13:40 - Reward Store Personality Traits
15:09 - Personality from DLC Packs
16:09 - Other Miscellaneous Features
ACT THREE
17:26 - Act Three | The Core Life Simulation Differences Between TS4 and its Predecessors
17:38 - Gameplay (a.k.a emotions) Mean Nothing
24:49 - Sim Personality (a.k.a emotions) Mean Nothing
28:27 - Paying for Personality (and an overall better game)
ACT FOUR
35:45 - Act Four | The Sims 4 vs Will Wright
37:54 - Why is The Sims 4 So Hands-Off?
40:31 - The Sims 4 vs Will Wright: The Good?
ACT FIVE
44:12 - Act Five | What Had Happened Was…
46:47 - Outro
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Prod. Riddman - escapism, Tranquility
Kevin MacLeod - Bleeping Demo, Wholesome, Decline
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EDOBY - Murd*rer
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So...What Happened to The Sims 4? | Part Two: The Downfall
@AsmaraTV 3 роки тому
If you stayed to the very end, you a real one. There’s a couple things I didn’t go into detail in this video for brevity’s sake (lol...50 minute video), but I still feel like are important to mention: *1. THE SIMS 4 = WHITE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICAN MILLENNIAL SIMULATOR* Although there have been attempts to be more diverse, the majority of the content in The Sims 4, whether with just the base game or with all the packs, is curated towards a White American millennial middle class experience. Now, the white, American middle class part has been a reality throughout the entirety of the franchise, not just with Sims 4, but the lack of attention towards other life stages, aside from young adults, is another major difference between TS4 and its predecessors. The teen-elder life stages are essentially the same with a couple minor aesthetic differences. *2. EA SHUT DOWN MAXIS IN 2015* Electronic Arts, which most refer to as “EA,” shut down Maxis in 2015. Maxis is the company Will Wright originally created to develop his simulation games. Obviously, this did not affect the continual development of The Sims series, but there are SPECULATIONS (not facts) about whether or not this has had an impact on what we’re seeing in The Sims 4. I don’t know specific details of this shutdown. I’m sure not all of them can be disclosed, but certain games that have been published under Electronic Arts, whether that’s The Sims, Spore, Madden, or otherwise, have had reputations of drastic shifts in game direction, so this could be a potential factor, but also may not be a factor at all. Thank you SO MUCH for watching! My next video is about the social construct of a “real gamer” and how that marginalizes women, minorities, and other groups in our society (finally posting that video lol), so stay tuned for that! 👀
@sofiajames1444 3 роки тому
Fantastic series, new subscriber, love your documentaries on the Sims! Sims 4 = American Simulator . This should have been re-considered from the Sims 3, as the audience has grown globally. I am not American and struggle to relate to most of the Sims CAS, Build and worlds. Plumbella, James Turner etc are famous gamechangers who have also spoken about their discomfort at not having a relatable game experience due to it being continuingly American centered. I hope from the pack releases such as Snowy Escape or the free update which included Hispanic Heritage items this is something they will change in the Sims 5. The inclusion of POC and other genders are also a whole other situation which they have started to address and acknowledge, evident from the skin tone update, including more POC hairs and culture within game and adding more gender options (but still not enough). Again, in-excusable and simply lazy to have not been included from the start. Hoping this mistake will be corrected in the sims 5.
@GeoMusic99 3 роки тому
The shutting down of Maxis had also a lot to do with the failure of SimCity. They still sometimes call the team at Redwood Studios the "Maxis" team but the real deal is the actual company is shut down and everything is now run by EA.
@ablevins6829 3 роки тому
I am a white, middle class millennial and I just watched both of these videos. Lol. You did a great job researching and organizing and presenting this content. The Sims 2 was a great game but it is difficult for me to go from the easy build features and the multitasking system of the Sims 4 back to the Sims 2. As for The Sims 3, it had some great features but I dont care for the rabbit holes and the empty lots (no visitors) and the constant crashing. However, your analysis of the lack of personality in the Sims 4 is on point and appreciated. I also hate that they've provided no space for a personality bio and I hate that they have quit on whims. I feel cheated by that.
@anononnymouse2795 3 роки тому
I don't agree that the sims 4 is a white American millennial simulation because you can apply any race to the base game because its so blank. The fact that there's no huge indication of one specific race, you can enjoy the game with any race you want. The only barrier is hair textures and representation for Native Americans. There really is no way to live "a certain race" unless you wanted to get really cultured and they have packs for that. I think messing with race is not good in this context because it can easily offend somebody. TL;DR? If you want to make a normal black family, you can do that. If you want to make an asian family that struggles, you can do that. If you want to make a family that's mixed race of Hispanic and Indian, you can do that. What makes a black family black or a white family white? Memories maybe. But you can create memories. Cook outs, wedding, first day of school etc. Don't get me wrong. Sims 4 base game is trash, and hopefully one day we will have a hair career and I can have my teen sim practice braiding on her sister and things like that, but... I don't think that because those type of things aren't in the game rn that the game is "white".
@GIRLdisambiguation 3 роки тому
@@anononnymouse2795 I think what Asmara means, similar to what another person replied, the game is very American and suburban (which in real life consists of mostly white people). City-life, low-income, even rural environments are not explored much in TS4 and can make for a very monotonous gameplay since every single family you make will essentially have the same lifestyle. In general, it's not very diverse in terms of race, class, culture, etc.
@ProletariatPrince 3 роки тому
My sims literally forget about their own family members outside the house because the relationships are so bad in this game.
@lannisterfilth 3 роки тому
I wish sims would recognize in-laws and step families. It would really give the sims a strong family gameplay, at least.
@lilyemily6312 3 роки тому
100 percent agree
@tsubrando 3 роки тому
When your sims have a good relationship with your parents that live in different house, but they get offended when you tried to sleep on a bed in a room that was used to be yours or took a meal from their fridge.
@daisymoon4004 3 роки тому
I remember how good we had it in the Sims 3. Like if my sim went off to Uni, they'd still get calls from family/friends at home. Or if someone moved out, they'd still come around to hang, call, and do other things that maintain their relationship. But in Sims 4 it's either, they knock on the door everyday for no reason, or you don't hear from them again. There's no balance.
@poshsims4016 3 роки тому
That’s always been my problem i used to move my kids out & the dad never called them or had the kids visit i had to make them come over
@aiwekano8593 3 роки тому
I played Sims 3 base game for ten years without needing to buy any packs. I didn't last a month with base game Sims 4.
@aflowerthatbloomsinadversity 3 роки тому
Right?!! I actually went back to TS3 recently and actually had... fun!
@aiwekano8593 3 роки тому
@@aflowerthatbloomsinadversity oh god what's that like
@leilamin1780 3 роки тому
I redownloaded sims 3 and got a supernatural pack for it and already More fun than sims4 even with all the custom content I have on sims4. I loved creating my characters with actual life aspirations they had to work over time for and not just one day. And giving them actual personality and watching how things affected them and didn’t just go away after two minutes due to a painting or something. I think my favorite part is exploring the catacombs I think it’s called and the sims actually coming out dirty and with actual finds and memories and new fears. It added so much more mystery and story to the life of my sims. Honestly the sims 4 just doesn’t have that sense of life and even with mods the mods seem to over do it at times to an unbearable point like the time is all just rushed no actual space and having your sims live life. I hope the sims 4 is fixed or as they work on the sims5 since I heard that’s been confirmed they truly make it better than the sims4 and bring back everything that made it so amazing. Not to mention sims4 additional packs to buy are extremely expensive and cheap cash grabs. That needs to change too
@XxLegenderywhitewolfxX 3 роки тому
Right, I had the base game for like 3 years played it constantly then got the pet pack and that was all I needed to entertained for like a decade & still playing.. Now with some more packs on the way but damn base game was solid.
@RachelFishah 3 роки тому
LITERALLY THIS. My old laptop couldn’t handle expansions so for like 3 years straight all i had was the base game and like *some* custom clothing if it even worked
@mxx52 3 роки тому
does anyone else miss how your sims could wish to have a boy or a girl when they're pregnant? or how the way they acted in pregnancy affected the traits of the baby? I know it's small but it really made the game more realistic.
@skkyyww 3 роки тому
I just remembered this now :(( yes!! Esp when my sims wanted a girl/boy it was a really precious thing also the food craving during pregnancy :( too bad its not in ts4
@sleekoduck 3 роки тому
Strawberries or carrots? I use them all the time. It's still in there.
@Pinkfairywife 3 роки тому
Yessss
@drippycity4135 2 роки тому
@@sleekoduck that only effects the gender of the baby, though. I’m pretty sure they mean their *sim* wishing for the baby’s gender and inheriting specific traits based on the pregnancy
@terenarosa4790 4 місяці тому
Wishing for a boy or girl would offend the modern audience.
@londonr8753 3 роки тому
my sim literally cheated on her husband and he got mad for two minutes and then he got happy. they went back to having a normal conversation like nothing happened lol
@holycow4889 3 роки тому
Welcome to Sims 4 😂
@myeeeeeh 3 роки тому
Exactly. Like where are these so called "better emotions" EA? The emotions worked better in 3 and 2.
@Bambammbi 3 роки тому
Oh my goodness same , my wife found out I cheated on her and like just still do normal stuff. I regretted my money buy the expansion for university in the sims 4. Oh my gosh, it is so boring . Like small town, stupid majors, you can’t even have an option to party much bc u just down to so much hws. In class, I can’t even go inside and see the damn building , while the sims 3 I had that big chance, to go inside and talk with profs. Whilst I don’t in the sims 4 which annoyed me. I stopped play it for 7 months now. I hate the rabbit hole bc u can’t attend graduation 🥲 since then I stopped playing and deleted all my CC and just move on with other things in life.
@sleekoduck 3 роки тому
There was a free love NAP that passed autonomously and Geoffrey Landgraab and some male Sim... I'll let you figure out the rest. What the actual...?
@phoenix72999 3 роки тому
My sim cheated on her husband because of a glitch or something. Am I the only one where sims sometimes randomly do social interactions with someone else than I want them to? I am pretty sure I had that a few times and once she got very embarrassed bescause "caught with someone else" and I was like: Oh my god, why? Nobody wanted this! But it also didn't hurt their relationship very much, so... Whatever, I guess...
@MarisCorner15 3 роки тому
can we also talk about how weird the whole world of the sims feels? Townies don't know anyone inside their towns, you go into a pre made household and they only know the people living with them, it's so weird
@sosounheard 3 роки тому
Its just....empty. so empty and lacklustre
@jesspavlichenko5745 3 роки тому
It is lonely
@eavyeavy2864 2 роки тому
@@sosounheard represent their player's lifrm just like you
@Waspinmymind 2 роки тому
@@eavyeavy2864 That’s rude? You know nothing about these peoples lives. And can’t make that assumption about others without some proof.
@canaree6 Рік тому
isolated asf
@NawiTheCore 3 роки тому
In short: The Sims 1-3 are GAMES; The Sims 4 is a TOY.
@holycow4889 3 роки тому
So what's the exact diffrence between "games" and "toys"? which one is better?😂
@mariehernot6443 3 роки тому
that means absolutetly nothing
@NawiTheCore 3 роки тому
@@holycow4889 In video game terms, a toy is a virtual object(s) you play with. There are no rules, no victory conditions, no story, no challenge. The only purpose is to be entertained. Toys are supposed to be fun to play with on their own as you only need your imagination. A video game has rules, it can have a story, and generally it has victory conditions. You play a video game not just to be entertained but to be challenged, to improve your motor skills and eyesight (there's research about this in "Nature Neuroscience"), to get a sense of accomplishment when defeating an opponent, to learn (edutainment, historical games, etc), to improve your critical thinking skills (strategy games, RPGs), etc. I wouldn't say one is better than the other. They're different activities.
@NawiTheCore 3 роки тому
@@mariehernot6443 Only if you have never read a book about video game design in your life. You could start with Eric Zimmerman et al's "Rules of Play: Game Design Fundamentals" (2004) and then move onto more complex books.
@holycow4889 3 роки тому
@@NawiTheCore I see :p thanks :)
@nicotbh8304 3 роки тому
I got the Sims 4 back when it was completely free, & my friend said that she was completely obsessed with the game, but I found it super boring, so I asked her why she liked it so much. tl;dr her mod folder is 32.5 gigs
@felmargego2534 3 роки тому
So basically, it was only bearable bc of mods. As expected of sims 4.
@lithiumkid 3 роки тому
lmfaoooooo
@kirstylawrencex1257 3 роки тому
basically if modders don't spend hours of their own time making stuff for other simmers FOR FREE the game is pointless
@Lipgloss-N-Melanin 3 роки тому
WOW!!!!! I'm telling you, if I had a better computer, I would have a bunch of mods and more CC than I have. I get so bored with the gameplay. Lots are always laggy and the game is always glitchy. Even people with high end computers have issues.
@0jiani 3 роки тому
Yep sounds about right. My mods make my game fun. And way more realistic
@glittery_cucumber 3 роки тому
The Sims 4 has always felt to me like it was made by people who never played any of the previous games. It's their idea of what could make the Sims fun to play for fans ("being rich and living in a mansion", "everyone loves you", "all the clothes you want" etc.) Kind of reminds me of frustrating conversations I used to have with my parents who didn't get why I spent so much time playing Sims 2.
@tharakir1328 2 роки тому
Well if you watch the sim gurus videos, you will actually notice they don’t know how to play the game, because they don’t play sims 4 neither the previous ones
@lanaphobic403 3 роки тому
The quality of this video... when I saw 600 views I was shocked I was expecting 300k minimum
@alegria1813 3 роки тому
You made me check and she's under 9000k like???
@Its.just.mee3 3 роки тому
Probably bc shes new. Her first vid was just 3 months ago! I think she'll get more popular soon tho. She has good quality videos and interesting content 😊
@xoticalpha432 3 роки тому
200k now ;-)
@bibidfairy2691 3 роки тому
@@xoticalpha432 I don't see the same thing I only see 48k :/
@misssteak1290 3 роки тому
We're getting there. I swear i'll never forgive youtube's algorithm for not introducing me to asmara sooner
@omelfilip 3 роки тому
They made the game about the player, not the sims. I think that about sums it up.
@AsmaraTV 3 роки тому
Big facts!
@sethmichel6138 3 роки тому
I finally understand what people mean when they say they don't like due to the number of likes, it's the number of my lord... Satan
@ismolatham4393 3 роки тому
I remember in sims 2 whenever you tried to do something that would be weird for that sim's personality, they'd look at you, they'd look through the screen at you and I thought it was pretty funny. Because yeah, people do sometimes do things they wouldn't do normally, because they are told to, forced to, persuaded to or suggested to and they really don't want to do it. It was also good that these 'weird for their personality' actions would often go badly or would be done awkwardly, nervously. However, in the sims 4 I can get a lazy sim to exercise and they are all smiles. I can get a loner sim to interact with strangers and yes I'll get a moodlet saying they're uncomfortable but there isn't any unique interactions or animations for this situation. I want to do things that are strange for that sim sometimes but I want to feel that resistance and eventually the regret that I would in sims 2. Also! I was one of the lucky people who managed to get it for free (they only did it for one weekend) and I've only ever bought packs on sale so I probably am very lucky that I have one of the cheapest versions of the game and I still felt let down by the base game and I got it for free XD
@ArtisanAsteroid 3 роки тому
I would be upset even if they paid me to play the game,like I’d pay them back extra just to not see it again.
@jojoslameerrand9305 3 роки тому
I got the sims 4 through that free weekend and after about 10 hours of gameplay I felt ripped off because there wasnt anything to do. Felt like a demo but the base game is just Like That. The packs I have I got on sale and I only baught them for aesthetics and building reasons (seasons and vampires). I share my origin account with a friend because they actually play the game instead of messing with build mode. I've got about 20GB of mods and CC installed and I wish I could give the money I spent to the people who actually made the game enjoyable to play
@franciskadolinar5796 3 роки тому
Sims 2 is much better because the original creater of sims 2 left and after that sims 3 and 4 were created.
@marycanary86 3 роки тому
theyd have to HAVE a decent personality first....
@hjnhjm2748 3 роки тому
@@franciskadolinar5796 I don't think thats the issue since sims 3 was incredible, I believe is how they manage the people in the teams. Each pack they keep changing the workers which leads to scruffy work
@akapoklo9933 3 роки тому
Remember how in The Sims 2 if someone got cheated on or someone died they would be FURIOUS or depressed for like days, randomly crying a whole week later? Everything had consequences and the spontaneity of aspirations, influence, and careers made it more like Will Wright's original idea where you don't really know what's going to happen!
@gigisneckofthewoods 3 роки тому
"If the Sims was meant to be a building game, it would have been called The Buildings. If the Sims was meant to be a dress up game, if would have been called The Dress Up Simulator." Yes! 100% agree. I'm so glad you brought in Will Wright's vision for The Sims because it shows how far The Sims has strayed from those original ideals. Innovation is great, but innovation just for the sake of having something new to put on the back of the box, doesn't always make for the best gameplay.
@Kirsten.shergold 3 роки тому
hi gigi I love your videos I didn't realise how bad the sims 4 was
@wendynerd1199 3 роки тому
It's not even a good building or dress up simulator. I get more customizability from a mobile dress up game.
@ArtisanAsteroid 3 роки тому
@@wendynerd1199 Gacha Club fills that void more than non modded sims 4 ever could.
@wendynerd1199 3 роки тому
@@ArtisanAsteroid Amen.
@lithiumkid 3 роки тому
amazingly put
@vanyadolly 3 роки тому
Focusing on emotions in TS4 was a mistake from the beginning. I especially remember older players going "whut" after the first announcement because sims hadn't been lacking in emotion to begin with. Emotions should come from the sims' personality, and both TS2 and TS3 did personality better than TS4.
@anonimkullanc489 3 роки тому
I agree
@meh457 3 роки тому
They "focused" on emotions and then gave a watered-down buff system and pretty broken autonomy to respond to those buffs.
@Caeilia 3 роки тому
Actually I do really like the idea of emotions, but it was just rushed and poorly executed by the ts4 team.
@MissYellowCat 3 роки тому
Crazy how they focused on emotions in sims 4 but it ended up being the most emotionless game
@lambo8637 3 роки тому
And in sims 3 you could change colors.of wallpaper ,etc. Sims 4 you only have so many options ,adding I dont like the music it seems boring and depressing.
@leonardpollard5722 3 роки тому
In the base game the neighbor sims don’t repopulate when they die, so if you spend enough time in a neighborhood it becomes a literal ghost town
@shhlonggy 2 роки тому
Yeah that happen when i played in 2018. I had to save my actual sims file and start over in a new saved game
@shhlonggy 2 роки тому
So ever since I turn off aging, only active household ages
@citrusbutter7718 2 роки тому
@@shhlonggy I prefer turning off aging for the general town except active households. The sims stories would go at my pace.
@scythescythe884 2 роки тому
my sister never stops saving iterations of her families when all the elders die off, and has a few created households to answer this. she drops her library households into the empty homes. every save game she opens... she has 50+ households, most of them, her main household from a previous file. the biggest gripe with her is what happens after gen 10. glitch and crash hell.
@yanderegirl0666 Рік тому
"They forgot to add that in basegame" This explains nearly EVERY pack
@HowdyQuinn 3 роки тому
The amount of money that needs to be put in the sims 4 is through the roof. We’re being rob and all we say is Sul sul !!! 🤦🏼♀️
@alexh6767 3 роки тому
Considering millions of people play this game...I think the prices are to much.
@annmendes1361 3 роки тому
I have all game packs (downloaded them off the internet😂) and even with everything it's still boring as hell😩I have had the game for years and I've never made it past 2 generations (I've only made it to the 2nd generation once)😂😂
@HowdyQuinn 3 роки тому
@@annmendes1361 girl. SAME!!! But we keep on buy them packs tho 😂😂
@dibel3669 3 роки тому
@@HowdyQuinn I think they meant they pirated it.
@Jess-rn5kp 3 роки тому
With how hollow and buggy the game is it could literally be some random free to play game from the app store lmao
@MsFlipped365 3 роки тому
I remember rushing to buy this Sims 4 only to see this strange whited out version of a town and that CAS was the only redeeming portion of the game. The last 6 years have been about playing catch up since then and they still haven’t created a base game worthy of the cost. Big ups to the modders out there who are the sole reason why my game means anything to me at all.
@cantspellbritt4129 3 роки тому
I got mine for free... if I paid a cent for that game I would be pissed. Thank goodness for Mods!
@MsFlipped365 3 роки тому
@@cantspellbritt4129 if only I could have been like you ❤️!!
@remainingembers 3 роки тому
Lady: claims that the sims will be deeper and more emotional and effect the game The Sims in Sims4: stand in place for an hour straight not doing action you picked and occasionally blankly laughing to themselves
@Weirdanimalboy Рік тому
Also: Time to get a glass of water!
@dani-2002 3 роки тому
Life happens around you, with or without you. That’s why the sims 3 is so great, it represents the mess that is life and that stuff does happen, you don’t control everything around you. I expect that as a minimum for a life simulation...
@TorvaCattus 3 роки тому
Am I the only person who feels that Lindsey is creating a game specifically for her instead of the players? Every interview or reply to an issue is "I wanted it, I play this way or I liked it"
@TorvaCattus 3 роки тому
And I'm a Sims 4 is my first Sims game console player and still feel like this game was made FOR one person rather than the Sims 4 community
@eatmorecake1152 3 роки тому
💯
@melodyw.7196 3 роки тому
Glad other people noticed
@IsomerMashups 3 роки тому
"I see it, I like it, I want it, you suffer through it."
@micahcook2408 3 роки тому
That might be because she’s saving face for what investors or EA higher ups are wanting. Like she blatantly said in a tweet (not verbatim), “I wanted Journey to Batuu because I’ve always wanted Star Wars in the Sims” when that can’t be entirely the case since Disney has had a partnership with EA since 2013.... lmao
@CaityRaindrop 3 роки тому
I feel like Lindseys reason for not having premade story's or story progression is bs, sorry but, the correct option imo would be to include them and allow the player to disable story progression, and download blank slates of premades from the gallery without the lore and connections to other people in the world if that's what the player wants
@decemberburgess184 3 роки тому
I agree lore and story progression would make the game better. Regarding getting blank slate sims from the gallery though - console players didn't have a gallery for a really long time so I could see how having premade stories (after initial release) if they didn't want them would be frustrating.
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
I play almost exclusively characters that I made. In theory this game should be ideal for me. But I actually want those pre-existing relationships and a solid story progression because I don't want my characters to live in a vacuum. This is even more the case since I can't make custom worlds and therefore don't have that full control and customization that I had in previous games. Before, I could make a town from the ground up and leave most of my self-created support cast to their own devices. Since I no longer have that freedom, it's important that the world I do have to play in be filled with compelling characters. Even for a hard-core originals only storyteller, a good setting and story progression are important.
@davidkonevky7372 3 роки тому
THIS! you can literally disable all of that shit on the options if you want. GIVE US ALL OF THE OPTIONS, AND THEN LET US CHOOSE WHAT TO DO WITH IT, DON'T MAKE A GAME FOR ONE SINGLE APPROACH
@lithiumkid 3 роки тому
@@BonaparteBardithion exactly!!!
@LadyAtlantaTbilisi 3 роки тому
@@decemberburgess184 If they made the game properly the first time around, I can imagine that console players would have had access to the gallery on release...and the console version would have been released earlier too
@Nat-qf7ds 3 роки тому
You only touched briefly on it, but I want to say that... my goodness, I feel sorry for anyone working on Paralives. The pressure must be *insane*. They are the first ones to seriously challenge the Sims 4 in 'their domain' lately. Sure, Second Life exists, but it's an online game and thus isn't really a direct competitor to the Sims Franchise. (Though that might change if Sims 5 actually is online - which I hope it won't be.) Paralives actively markets itself as an offline life simulator - or to say it in other words, a direct competitor to the Sims Franchise. Many Simmers, prominent or not, have cited EA's lack of competition for the Sims as a reason as for why it has been getting worse (as you did note, towards the end), so many Simmers are looking to Paralives to be that, to be worthy competition, to be something that will force EA to do better, to listen to their customers complaints and do something. All eyes are on Paralives. Plus, they have promised a lot, specifically things that the Sims 4 doesn't offer (as of yet, might I note). Expectations and hopes are high. Maybe even too high. Because what happens if Paralives fails? What if it doesn't fulfill its promises, what if it doesn't meet expectations? What if it's just... mediocre? Boring? Fun for a family generation, but not more? Will another company or other indie developers step up and try to challenge EA again? Especially if Paralives fails spectacularly? (Knock on wood, though, that it doesn't.) Maybe. Maybe not. It would be risky, and not many companies/indie developers are willing to take such a risk. I only wish the best to the people working on it, and that they'll succeed. For our and especially for their sake.
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
One interesting thing about the social media discussions with the developers (like the Discord server) is that supporters are reluctant to mention The Sims by name. People suggest certain features, but they try to phrase it without specifically saying "I'd like an improvement on this feature in The Sims". I once even saw it called "the game that shall not be named", which the developers assured them they don't really need to do. It's okay to compare Paralives to The Sims. After all, it's the closest to their intended model. But there is an attempt to discuss features that worked without using the exact language of The Sims. Another thing is that the developers are being upfront that they won't have everything they're discussing on release. They're taking polls and having discussions of what they'd ideally want, but recognize that they have to be realistic with their expectations for development. Like they've discussed with the community what it would take to include wheelchairs in the game and how to design around them, but have admitted they don't currently have ramps figured out as a build tool yet. I don't think that's necessarily going to save them from initial backlash. Parts of Spore is well received now, but when it came out it was panned as a series of shallow disconnected games instead of a single robust simulator. But I think Paralives is realistically managing their own expectations and trying not to bite off more than they can chew.
@ember9361 3 роки тому
Why are people so worried about a competitor for a major simulation game? That has happened before. City Skylines provided what SimCity 2013 could not. The way developers for Paralives are dealing with the game is not hyped up at all- they're showing what they have. There's no big promises made with catchy phrases - all their videos on their channel showcase what they last worked on and they're quite open about possibilities, suggestions and feedback from the community- they even do surveys regarding certain aspects. Just because they're a small indie team doesn't mean they're incapable of creating something fun, like StardewValley was developed by one guy...
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
@@ember9361 People are worried about a competitior because of what one can accomplish. There has not been a SimCity release since Cities: Skyline came out. SimCity is either taking their time on the next product to make sure they get it right or the smaller competitor effectively killed it. The fact that Paralives is so transparent with their production gives fans of the Sims who want a better product hope that the competitor isn't a hoax. There's been a ton of life-sim hoaxes or efforts that promised a lot and fell flat, and people are really hoping to see another Cities: Skyline.
@ember9361 3 роки тому
@@BonaparteBardithion But there won't be a next SimCity... EA doesn't seem to think single player games are as profitable as multiplayers, so 2013 was the last one since it didn't do too good, and City Skylines kind of just swooped in and sealed the deal by gaining over all the frustrated SC fans. What I mean is, it literally happened to one of the biggest franchises in the simulation genre, why worry it couldn't happen again? They tried an online sims 4 (Olympus) but retracted just in time because of how the whole SimCity thing went down, and they're trying again with Sims 5 (same dev team + career openings for developers with cross platform & online experience) so they're kinda recreating the very same environment that killed off SimCity
@glittery_cucumber 3 роки тому
@@ember9361 I agree, the Paralives team is giving realistic info on the development process and I love how open they are to ideas. The Paralives subreddit is filled with gameplay wishes by the simming community - and the Paralives team is asking for it! No matter how complicated or unrealistic, they want all the input, but they're very open about being a small team with limited resources. Healthy competition is vital for any brand and not a dangerous or concerning thing. It's more concerning for me if one company holds a monopoly over an entire market.
@johnsinger7819 3 роки тому
Sims 1,2,3: Lets Play! Sims 4: Lets Pay!
@zkw100 3 роки тому
You need a certain level of suspension of disbelief to play a life simulator, and sims 4 makes it harder with such easily changeable sims: from sims that can turn from grieving to happy due to a painting, to seeing townies taken on random catering roles, to having townies do uncharacterful things, such as Judith Ward digging through trash, the Goths being scared of ghosts, random kids on their own in an onsen at midnight, to just random sims constantly strolling through the neighbourhoods, to pregnant sims in hospital (Get to Work) having no real babies. This made storytelling harder, too. It didn’t feel like I had full control of my own sims or the world they’re in, just the opposite. Thanks for the wonderful analysis, too.
@char932 3 роки тому
exactly! the point you made about townies doing uncharacterful things just reinforces the point that, in their attempt to make versatile sims with emotions theyre literally all the same. no matter what their traits or aspirations are they do the same things in every situation
@davidkonevky7372 3 роки тому
@@char932 this! If you think about it, emotions are just big temporal traits, making all sims shallow, and basically the same
@gabiolszowy1878 3 роки тому
Why are there so many kids alone at an onsen at midnight 😭
@KingBasieSims4 3 роки тому
In the Sims 3 the police would bring your kid back home with a warning if they were out after 9, and that's even with you as the parent not setting curfew. You'd never see kids out that late. Or any sims for that matter. But sims 4 I can scope the neighbourhood after midnight and I'll still find sims that have homes sleeping on benches or in the city ordering from the food stalls.
@lithiumkid 3 роки тому
@@KingBasieSims4 its like they overcompensated trying to make the world look somewhat alive and active because of how tiny the worlds are and everything being so closed off and isolated.
@Jay-xr6dc 3 роки тому
I think a problem with the sims 4 is that yes you’re able to give sims a “personality” by micromanaging and doing everything for them but the game doesn’t really give you the tools to do this. I can’t tell my sim how to act in response to something, and the game would become boring if I paused every second to think about how someone else would respond. Even if you saw the sims 4 as the ultimate god simulator it’s really not because no god controls you like a robot, a god manipulates you’re surroundings and watches you respond. Ps it’s hard to micromanage my sims actions when they feel tense every 5 seconds or they get stuck in those annoying group conversations that always happen when you go to a community lot, not that community lots are that great because all the sims spawning at the front of the lot at the same time. wanna go order something in at the cafe? !no! you have to wait for the barista to show up, fight past the crowd of sims all group thinking their way into the front door for you sim to then get mobbed into group conversations while they’re trying to flirt with their date. now my sim has a bunch of awkward relationships because they just flirted with half the town. See even if I wanted full control I don’t really have it. Not to mention how empty the world feels, I can’t control the whole world so sims need to have their own personalities. Little missing features don’t help with this emptiness, for example loading screens to go anywhere, disappearing and reappearing at the front of the lot rather than actually appearing to travel ect
@alexh6767 3 роки тому
I think moral of the story is, people expect games to be brilliant at what they are, but we are not really in a time that they can pull it off. I think we should just enjoy the game for what it is.
@francoisfournier30 3 роки тому
i dont think loading screen are the problem in itself. If they had done a world like in the sims 2 where you can naviguate through it and edit it, with some aspects of the personality of that game it would have been much better. Sims 3 had traits, but traits doesnt really matter on a sims personality, its at best a characteristic of your sims. Like being kleptomaniac or dog lover. Personality points, interest points, turn on/off, aspirations etc from the sims 2 are actual working all together to offer a true personality through gameplay. Also, those things drove all of your sims motives and how they respond/interacted with other sims. Little has it may seems, interest points were not just a show case of your sims interest, it drove what your sims would talk of and also gow they reacted to someone with differents interest. Lets says Lindsay didnt have any interest in voyages but I did have a lot of point of interest for voyages, than the outcomes of that conversation would be negative. So whenever sims would have similar points of interest they had it easier to bond, and if they didnt they had a harder time to develop that relationship... Also in the sims 2, unlike other games, the animations are there to show you whats happening to your sims, instead in recent game they are express through buffs... yes buffs. They arent bad since they clearly an outcomes through gameplay, but there is not much else to it.
@francoisfournier30 3 роки тому
@@alexh6767 thats also true! And also this is a reflect on the society. Peoplr are on instagram cultivating their beautiful image and reputation, meanwhile they can be such garbage irl as personality goes on.
@mysaria7641 3 роки тому
@@alexh6767 that’s not true at all. EA absolutely has all the resources they could ever need to make a wonderful sims game, or else the past sims games wouldn’t have been better. THAT is why people are mad, not because they’re “expecting too much”
@davidkonevky7372 3 роки тому
@@alexh6767 This would be true if we didn't have past examples of BETTER games being done with LESS BUDGET, LESS RESOURCES, and MORE CONSTRAINTS.
@Nixijokenzi 3 роки тому
I found it really frustrating when I raised one of my Sims from the dead and they didn’t remember a thing! They weren’t afraid of fire (which is what killed them!) they weren’t grateful to the person that made Ambrosia. After all that effort to bring a loved one back there was zilch!
@Niallfap 3 роки тому
Just looked up 'how many traits in sims 3 base game' and there are 64. 64 traits in the BASE game. What the hell went wrong?????
@casmatori 3 роки тому
Let's be real, the Sims 4 has always been boring
@IsomerMashups 3 роки тому
I was disappointed within a month of its release.
@digthewarmth 3 роки тому
It finally got better with Sentiments. When I flirt with people's husband's in front of them, their relationship is finally in trouble when I switch to play with them.
@davidkonevky7372 3 роки тому
I literally went on a 4 year sims hiatus after a year of playing it since it was so goddamn boring
@ishafrank6304 3 роки тому
@@davidkonevky7372 I did too
@ThexDynastxQueen 3 роки тому
It didn't have pools or Create a Style and I was livid. Even with pirating the game it was just so bare bones and boring despite how chaotic emotions made your sim.
@girliesamm 3 роки тому
omg hadn't heard Quxxn's voice in so long. definitely made me tear up, may she rest in peace
@theMadMarsz 3 роки тому
Same, I already loved the video but as soon as I heard her bring up Quxxn I started tearing up, miss her and I hope she's resting in peace 🥺💕
@AsmaraTV 3 роки тому
She was definitely a big part of The Sims community, so I wanted to make sure I honored/recognized her contributions. 💕
@kaydwessie296 3 роки тому
Quxxn, Mootilda, and Scumbumbo were the heroes of the sims community
@misstressfoxtail05 3 роки тому
Same. Actually had to stop the video for a minute.
@Megan-nx6zd 3 роки тому
Just found out from watching this that Quxxn passed away, I used to watch her let’s plays all the time this is so sad 🥺🤍
@mariatxxxc 3 роки тому
I was playing the Sims 2 yesterday, I left the game literally 1 minute to answer a phone call and when I came back one of the sims got caught cheating and was getting a slap and another sim just started a fire. That's why I love that game.
@erin24287 3 роки тому
I can vividly remember the first time I played both Sim 2 and 3, but I can’t remember the first time I played Sims 4. I can remember buying it, but it’s a literal blank on what I did the very first time I opened a game up that only came out 6 years ago.
@LeoDeStino 3 роки тому
That's so true. I wasn't fan of Sims 1 and 2 but since I had friends simmers, I do remember what happened when we played together. When the Sims 3 base game released I became instantly fan and I remember the whole story of my first Sim in details. With the Sims 4 all I remember is watching the neighbourhood and wondering "That's it?". I don't have exciting stories from Sims 4 because nothing exciting is happening.
@lithiumkid 3 роки тому
i could describe the first Sims 3 sim i made like she was my lifelong best friend lmao. i can barely remember anything about any of my Sims 4 sims, which isn’t helped when i load the save and they have no personality, moodlets, or memories to reference to jog my memory lol.
@akinamation 3 роки тому
I do remember what I did. I created my friends group, then another household with a mom and a teenage girl. The mom did a career in computer science/informatics orso. But anything else? Eh. I have 20 hours in this game and I have no idea where they come from.
@contraasss 3 роки тому
I'm so happy you acknowledged Quxxn I get so frustrated that people forget about her but she was the BACKBONE at the time. My favorite to watch. May she rest in peace 😓
@AURIELLA333 3 роки тому
Same. A true og
@preshyp 3 роки тому
Quxxn is our Angel RIp
@tayxxmonster 3 роки тому
Yup!
@francoisfournier30 3 роки тому
I never knew her but what happened to her?
@leezardt 3 роки тому
@@francoisfournier30 she passed during an emergency surgery
@MrTpz09 3 роки тому
Some stuff that needed more elaboration: - You can burn through the content of a Sims 4 dlc within a day or less. They're so one note you find no reason to revisit some dlc. They add more shallow gameplay features but no depth to actual gameplay. - Late game is so lackluster. You can easily make your household millionaires and have nothing to do with your money. You can so easily build max friendly and romantic relationship with everyone in town, max your career, get all reward traits, complete all aspirations, etc. - You realizing that most new Sims 4 content is just catching up with previous titles at a higher price and with less content. Yet after many years, so many features are still missing. Again lack of depth. - The game is still a speed up, slow down simulator! Building up skills, relationships , careers, etc is just doing something in x3 speed, interspersed with daily subsistence. - The fact the Sims team can't optimize their game for CAS, story progression, and open world. They brainwashed so much of the sims community into thinking that readding those features would burn down our computers when so many other games simulate so much more and are still well optimized. And they aren't even using Unity! So simulation limitations can be bypassed so much easier with their own engine.
@JT-iv7ju 3 роки тому
In Sims 2, you could create sub-neighborhoods attached to your main, and you could make a lot of them. The lack of building space in 4 isn't justifiable.
@siholasiholasi1924 3 роки тому
The game is dead😔, our last hope is the sims 5
@userjoao 3 роки тому
Fears are literally the most human “feature” there is, and the second they took it out in sims 3, i knew there was starting to be a shift in how the producers saw life simulating. From there on, they started to lower the stakes for our sims, essentially turning the game into a perfect flawless world where nothing bad happens internally OR externally to our sims.
@userjoao 3 роки тому
I think a perfect way to explain the sims 4 is that it’s TOO streamlined. They took way too much out and ended up with just bare bones, just, pretty looking and well animated bare bones.
@kayk6330 3 роки тому
Wow, I never thought about this! Sims 3 is my favourite and I've not really noticed that fears were gone. I guess I'm too controlling and would do my best to avoid them in the sims 2 anyway haha.
@userjoao 3 роки тому
@@kayk6330 fears were pretty easy to avoid tbh, it just added an extra challenge and of course realism. Your Fortune sim doesn’t want to change a diaper or clean around? just hire a maid or get another sim to do it. Your romance sim fears getting rejected for a flirt? get your relationship with the target sim high enough so that the changes of being rejected are lower.
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
I ignore fears for the most part in Sims 2, so it's interesting when you get blindsided by an aspiration hit due to a failed flirt or something. Without that, you can just spam interactions until people like you. On a related note, Sims 3 and 4 also suffer from the loss of asymmetrical relationship gain. Nothing like trying to hug your best friend and then finding out they don't think much of you by rejecting. If there are two things I would absolutely take from Sims 2 it would be the relationship gain and wants/fears. I actually like whims (when they're working), but there needs to be more long-term wants.
@userjoao 3 роки тому
@@BonaparteBardithion I really don’t understand why you would like whims better than wants and fears, which are way more resembling of real life goals people have.
@aloe4010 3 роки тому
you’re really out here putting more effort into these videos than ea puts into the sims
@ABirdOnTheMoon 3 роки тому
I’ve been trying to bring attention to how the sims 4 isn’t a Will Wright’s vision of a life simulation but you did much better with this video! It’s amazing to see it put in words beside mine. It’s not the problem of the player if they changed the whole aspect of the game while pack it in the same package! Sadly, this game is shipped as a life simulation when it’s hardly giving us life to live through
@hellop8822 3 роки тому
This might sound dumb but what happened to will wright?
@Ivannnnnnmmd 3 роки тому
@@hellop8822 he left maxis after ts3
@emilyurbanski1234 3 роки тому
the fact that Sims4 doesn't have cars or the ability to make garages and what not you're really left to create those things on your own for looks and not game play ... so sad haha I miss the customization.
@nigiriify 3 роки тому
Sims 2 was the best game to me. There were just so many extra life details like being able to make your own recipes.
@PalmelaHanderson 3 роки тому
The emotion system and its shallowness isn't why I had the biggest issue with TS4. In TS3, you could play in an open world. You could control a household of 5 sims while two are at work, one's out fishing or something, and the other two are at the bar, all in real time. And yes, that made the worlds feel more insular, but I don't think that's a bad thing. When I'm in TS4 and decide to go to Realm of Magic or whatever and randomly see a townie, it completely breaks the immersion.
@ShishkinaOlga 3 роки тому
About the game being "well tested": after you play for a while your game starts to suffer from simulation lag. The game starts being unplayable
@oliviaisnicole1835 3 роки тому
Yes! I continue to experience it up until today - I’m not even able to play with more than three generations in one save with the game lagging like crazy.
@MayHave 3 роки тому
@@oliviaisnicole1835 i don't know if you heard about it/already have in your game, but there's something called simulation lag fix. here's the link www.srslysims.net/2019/05/simulation-lag-fix.html i hope it'll be useful to you
@onyxstarshine 3 роки тому
As a console player who owns a lot of packs, it makes the game extremely unplayable. Eco lifestyle legit broke my game
@onyxstarshine 3 роки тому
@@MayHave console players be like 😔😔
@rarebreednoel 3 роки тому
@@MayHave for some reason this mod makes my game eveb more laggy than before. My sims just stand in one spot for hours until I resetted them🤦🏻♀️
@renatopereira810 3 роки тому
This is the best video about The Sims 4 that I ever saw! In my opinion The Sims 1, 2 and 3 were games. The Sims 4 is just a product. It's funny that in the beginning I was more tolerant and kinda of a "casual" player with hopes for this game that was rushed but it could be great, but after a while I fall in the frustrated player category, I went back to the old games and I'm not able to be excited about new content anymore. I genuinly feel frustrated and sad everytime I think about the state of this franchise nowadays specially when I've been playing since the first game back when I was 7. I basically grew up with The Sims and what used to be love it is now a love/hate relationship. I love the past games and I low-key hate The Sims 4 even tough I love building, but I also love storytelling and for me one playstyle needs the other and I think it is weird to be into just one.
@MsVanessaSt 3 роки тому
“The Sims 1, 2 and 3 were games. The Sims 4 is just a product.” Yess!!!! This!!!
@ladynoluck 3 роки тому
Sims 4: Make your own stories! Us: Then can you give us the tools to make those meaningful stories, along with at least some of the customization options from the older games? Sims 4: No! 😊 Good luck!
@bitchlasagna1 3 роки тому
I think one of the biggest things lacking is the small amount of traits. All of my sims end up being the exact same person, and it's up to my imagination, and dressing them a certain way, and making them do things to pretend that they're all different. And I never understood why they took out favorites. I miss when my sims would want to listen to hip hop or when they'd really enjoy their macaroni.
@OBiGem 3 роки тому
Finally was able to watch this fully, and I feel you touched on something that I had a feeling about all along and that's that the sims team created a game that plays like how they've always wanted to play, but what I think they never anticipated is that the way they like to play happens to not be the way that the vast majority of simmers like to play. It's such a strange place to have ended up in with a team of developers who fundamentally misunderstand their userbase because they signed up to make a game that they don't actually understand the draw of.
@MsVanessaSt 3 роки тому
I thought that part was interesting. I think I play more like how the Sims team plays. But being able to control every aspect of my sims life, and the narrative storytelling I was doing in my head was enhanced by the core aspects of the previous generations. For me it was easy to ignore the other stories and townies that didn’t fit into that story in my head. So, in changing the game to cater to the people who play like me, we lost out on a bunch of things which has led to a hallow version of the game.
@LitrallyAJ 3 роки тому
This video was so incredibly fascinating! A lot of people talk about what is wrong with the sims 4 but they don’t have any real reasons why. This is the best example I have seen of someone going in depth and showing the proof that’s in the pudding!
@lototheflo9640 3 роки тому
i have always seen people give ample reason why they think the sims 4 is "bad." Hell Asmara even used many of them as their sources
@francoisfournier30 3 роки тому
no disclaiming people sentiments about sims games saying they dont have real reasonning why the game is wrong is not ok and purely wrong. Some people dont express themself in the best way and cant afford to explain in a best way, like she did here. Doesnt mean she is 100% right in her video, as she played only the sims 3 and 4, so therefor she has a slight preference for sims 3, and it shows. Im an og fan, played them all and I would say most likely the same thing about those games excepts she forgots how much important some details of the sims 2 personality are and how it worked all together. But thats ok because they are things that you have to play with to experiment it and see their importance in personality matters. She overall covered everything concrete and it was a blessing to watch!
@francoisfournier30 3 роки тому
@@lototheflo9640 yup this is her foundation infos sources lol
@lithiumkid 3 роки тому
i think its more that the issues are so strange and complex to explain lol. the problems are so bizarre, its so different from every predecessor, where would you even start?
@Laroling 3 роки тому
I think some people like LGR and now Pleasantsims summed it up well though. They dont just say 'where's bunk beds' 'where's cars'. But still I do like this somewhat nuanced take that even goes back to the core problem.
@ratos62 3 роки тому
This makes me think that maybe the sims need an emotions hierarchy system, like the sadness for a loss of a loved ones will remain for certain amount of time regardless of the little pleasing stimulus the sim may encoumter during this state of duel
@Caeilia 3 роки тому
Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. Emotions shouldn't all have the same impact given the situation and what triggered the emotion. Me being happy because I got promoted is different to the happiness I experience when being in a good looking environment. Also emotions should be triggered all the time, since you get used to things and don't react as strongly as you would in the beginning after a certain time.
@Rekowcski Рік тому
"buy a bee box" makes my skin crawl. I think this is the best sims documentary ever, I particularly enjoy part 1 talking about all the older games... it really puts things into context. This is maybe my third time watching haha
@sulkybrother 3 роки тому
in my opinion, the sims 4 was destined to fail when they tried making their core aspect emotions because it’s not like that hasnt already been done before? in ts2, your sim’s mood played a big part in their everyday life. it affected their aspiration as well as their intuitive to do things around the house (ex. an upset sim won’t do chores or anything that isn’t fun) and they expanded upon this tremendously in the sims 3 by adding actual traits & more lifetime aspirations BASED on those traits. not to mention, moodlets! with this bein said, it makes no damn sense why sims 4 went in this marketing direction 😐 edit: after i unpaused the vid, you literally just said all this ugh YOUR MIND!!
@augustvirgo26 3 роки тому
I preferred the emotion system in the previous games. I see what they were trying to do but they just didn’t execute it well
@twigblack22 2 роки тому
When TS4 came out I was so disappointed that I actually requested a return and refund for it. I was able to "return" my digital copy and get a refund for it. Like it was SO bad when it was realized. And I was so invested in TS3 because I had a decent amount of expansions that I paid for. I think I played TS3 for a couple years until I started to see some more TS4 content online and figured it would be time to make the switch. I played "vanilla" for a while but then for the first time I started to use CC and mods. Now I can't play without it because the game just feels so hollow without it. I don't want to even think about how much money I've spent on DLC in TS4 now. CAS and build mode is definately the best it has been (given I was initally upset about no create a wheel) but the actually game play itself is so disapointing. MC Command Center has saved the sims tbh.
@badgyrl310 3 роки тому
I've been saying the Sims 4 wasn't ish from the beginning, but everybody just now seem to be realizing it. The game was hollow from the beginning and missing so many basics from jump. CAST, toddlers, open world, pools, toddlers, ghosts, NPC burglars, firemen, nanny's, etc., cars. I don't think they even had ghosts. That had to be patched in. Soooo much was missing out the gate. I found the base game boring and not as interesting or addictive as previous Sims games. According to Origin, I've played TS4 a whole 68 hours in 6 years. Until a few nights ago, I'd last played it in 2018. I may have played 15 or 20 minutes the other night. I still don't know how to change the camera angles or follow my sim. That's how little I play this game. I used to play TS2 & TS3 nonstop, like a borderline addiction. Maybe it's because I'm older now, idk, but I can't get into this version of the Sims. I only own 9 total packs and that's because I buy one of each in a bundle for a discount on Origin. So an EP+GP+SP= whatever % off. IMO game packs are a good idea in theory, but are actually just a money grab. Game packs weren't a thing in Sims 2 or 3. It's a stuff pack that includes game play elements and in some cases a world, and on the surface, it sounds like a good idea, but you still have stuff packs, so they just break up EPs into various GPs and SPs to make more money rather than creating a complete EP. It's a hustle. EA has been hustling yall for years. The Sims 3 store was expensive, but it was optional add-ons, not like "Oh, I need this, this and this to make my own Generations or Dating Life EP." As flawed as the Sims 3 was, imo it was a more complete game, and so was the Sims 2.
@CielLucilfer 3 роки тому
amazing video! i’ve played so many sims games & the only thing i can say about the sims 4 is that it’s the prettiest & the best to build in. the simulation lag with the sims themselves is just as frustrating as sims 3’s lag. in the sims 4 ur sims will just stand there for hours before doing what u say lolol
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
It's gotten progressively worse as more stuff is added. I thought it was just my jungle of mods causing it, but console players have started to complain about longer load times the more expansions you get.
@GIRLdisambiguation 3 роки тому
I really just wish my sims would die. Or at least their house would catch on fire. Like that does not happen in TS4. My experience playing TS3 and TS4 is so different. When I'd get tired with TS3, I would make it to the weekend or at least finish off the day and save & quit after putting everyone to sleep. But with TS4 I've found that I get so mind numbingly bored that I can't even finish off a quick evening. I'll open and close the game within 20 minutes and feel so mentally drained where I can't do anything but take a nap. The game quite literally puts me to sleep (not in a good way).
@Chellekathryn 3 роки тому
There is no risk to the sims 4 and it sucks
@lToxxiil 3 роки тому
This is one reason i stopped playing, I'll make my Sims the remember how boring the game play actually is.
@Chellekathryn 3 роки тому
@@lToxxiil Its so boring! Every EP is so disappointing
@lambo8637 3 роки тому
Same here it makes my depression worse too and feel like a zombie
@toofacedsugar1764 3 роки тому
@@lToxxiil yes! i spend 2 hours making a gorgeous sim and then realize i cant do anything with it
@scottmerchant4210 3 роки тому
Why are UKposts recommendations good just before bed 😩
@one_smol_duck 3 роки тому
As someone who prefers having as much control as possible, I _still_ prefer The Sims 3. I feel like the open and customizable world makes it much easier to play god than what's available in The Sims 4. I played Sims 3 for years with only the base game and never got bored. If I wanted to do something that wasn't technically available in the game, I'd just build some set dressing somewhere and create that functionality on my own. Hell, I had more fun jerry rigging Sunset Valley to fit my narrative than I ever did using the actual expansion packs for Sims 3, once I was finally able to install them. Sims 4 just doesn't have the same flexibility, so I find that I'm actually not able to tell open ended stories. I feel like there is very little opportunity to color outside the lines, as it were. Having easily manipulatable (but bland as hell) characters doesn't really help me much. If anything, it stiffles any attempt to add conflict to the narrative. (Though maybe the new update fixes that -- honestly I haven't even thought about playing Sims 4 since the 64-bit update finally came out for Sims 3.)
@sophies.5100 3 роки тому
This!!
@kwaiiandgloom9453 3 роки тому
I'm also very controlling with my sims. Sims 3 definitely is better for this in my opinion as well.
@pharoahcaraboo9610 3 роки тому
i dont think i've heard anyone put into words what makes gameplay so shallow- emotions ARE the personality is the most succinct way ive seen someone describe the issue!
@theteddy906 3 роки тому
Omg you included Amanda, I love her videos, she’s such an icon.
@alexiscormier4059 3 роки тому
She really is
@airunYT 3 роки тому
I didn’t even notice whims were gone LOL that’s how crap they were. I honestly spend much more time building and in cas than actual playing 🥲
@sobruhkey 3 роки тому
Whims are disabled by default. You can enable them in the menu.
@jaquitavulpix3418 2 роки тому
@@sobruhkey And there are mods that rework the whim and aspiration-system to be more personal and challenging (lifetime aspirations by ky-e) - as EA discontinued it -.-
@Sirkennzalot 3 роки тому
I feel like at this point EA is just cashing in on the undying fans who refuse to give up on the franchise because The Sims have been apart of their life for so long. The community has told them EXACTLY what they want for years and somehow they continue to go in the opposite direction. One time I watched a livestream where a Sims guru said that nobody played with children when they’re one of the main life styles simmers wish had more bulk to it. It truly speaks to the fact that they’re making a game for themselves instead of the people who are actually paying for and supporting it.
@oshinsims 3 роки тому
I’m trying to figure out how you don’t have 1mil subscribers yet? Such a beautifully done video over this highly debated question. Facts, comparison, and detail to back it up. Love it ! ❤️
@mightyowl1800 3 роки тому
Nothing to do with anything but this leather/sweater moment is a lewk. Loved the video!
@kelseyroy8280 3 роки тому
hearing Quxxn’s voice made me so nostalgic. she got me interested in the Sims as a kid. her videos were an escape for me and I will forever be grateful.
@storiwilliams398 3 роки тому
It’s a life creation game, instead of being a life simulation one
@majoraxv 3 роки тому
Lool true. I can spend hours in CAS and build mode just to exit because the gameplay is so damn boring. Mods saved the game and that’s sad
@maydaybelle5378 3 роки тому
Underrated comment
@lane6216 3 роки тому
This!!!
@jack-exzolt9858 3 роки тому
Exactly there's nothing beyond CAS and B/B. For a title like "Sims", there's not enough "Simulation" like the original one intended.
@maritzagrisel4351 3 роки тому
I never forgot the walks. I love them.
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
I don't use them all the time, but they're a nice touch when you want to add a specific vibe to a character. I adjust them at least as often as the voice.
@lavenderllamamusic 3 роки тому
i noticed i would just always stick to the default walk because the others are way too animated. Like really exaggerated lol
@isabelle571 3 роки тому
I’d take a look at the simsvip article that dropped yesterday that also explained why the sims 4 is as broken as it is! It started off broken and never got enough time to be fixed and even now years later they haven’t even done well... sucks! Love these videos I’m so glad I found you
@micahcook2408 3 роки тому
Yes! The Spaghetti coding, the messed up multiplayer to single player engine, etc. LMAO
@lithiumkid 3 роки тому
@@micahcook2408 spaghetti coding?
@akumaisreal2090 3 роки тому
I haven't played the sims in a very long time, but I remember my favorite thing I loved to do was make a huge house and then make 8 sims with WILDLY different personalities and then see what happens.
@NicoleUntch 3 роки тому
It’s just crazy how all the design aspects are actually so stunning, yet their biggest sell is the worst part of the game
@zoyarockjet 3 роки тому
your channel deserves so much attention! thank you for putting out quality content, so glad you popped up in my recommendations
@jamesthomas1489 3 роки тому
the game could’ve been so much better if it hadn’t started out as a multiplayer game
@katiewilbur9026 3 роки тому
agreed.
@felmargego2534 3 роки тому
Or even online.
@amandaa9547 3 роки тому
"and by the time I'm filming this, they even fixed the skin tones" *looks at console and mac skin tones* I don't think they have somehow XD
@sillygoosegoose 3 роки тому
just as a wee correction, 'townie' refers to sims that don't live in a certain lot and are randomly generated. sims that EA made and live in lots around the world are 'premade sims'.
@CYRINTHIA212 3 роки тому
I feel like the sims 4 has been a cash grab🤦🏾♀️ it sucks
@Rosebud_official 3 роки тому
I really like your content, I feel like you really fill a spot in the Community we don’t already have, I loved how this felt like a documentary. I see you going far. 😁
@TheBrittneyWilcox 3 роки тому
Agreed she did such a bomb job of making it feel like a true sims4 documentary with a great accuracy of facts. Love it 🥰
@lilyemily6312 3 роки тому
100 percent agree . Fab video x
@Dracathio 3 роки тому
What really happened to Sims 4 People didn't put their foot down, people kept saying "it's fine they'll fix it later". People kept trusting them and just kept playing it because they were die hard fans. While people with self control and understanding of how crap companies can be... didn't buy anything for Sims 4 after the foundational game.
@robsoncurtis4740 3 роки тому
“SIRI DEFINE ROBBERY” 😭😭😭😭
@anotherplumbob 3 роки тому
Amazing second part!! I do enjoy TS4 a lot, but my playstyle with this game is fundamentally different from the way I played TS2 or TS3. That means, at least to me, it's a fundamentally different game. To me, the main problem is also personality: whims and aspirations are basically tutorials as you said. And traits have little effect on sims personalities. The exception are: parenthood traits, sentimens and snowy escape lifestyles. Those (which are later additions ) are very well made IMO and truly affect gameplay.
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
Even lifestyles suffers from the "everyone's the same" problem. If you have more than four friends you end up with the People Person lifestyle. That's almost everyone but the most reclusive shut-ins. I have yet to have a Sim that didn't end up with it on their own.
@canadey97 3 роки тому
Nothing will ever top The Sims 2. Period.
@bethparsons3625 3 роки тому
Sims 2 player here. If people haven't played it they should best game ever.
@Takejiro24 3 роки тому
@@bethparsons3625 I want to. Sooo badly. But, it's incredibly difficult to even get it.
@bethparsons3625 3 роки тому
@@Takejiro24 abandonware.com you can google to make sure I spelled it right 😂. It's a legal place to get old games and since ea doesn't support the Sims 2 anymore you can get the ultimate collection there.
@Takejiro24 3 роки тому
@@bethparsons3625 Ooooo. Thank you!
@user-kw7fe1dv3j 3 роки тому
Yes , yes and hell yes 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@tianakee 3 роки тому
the downfall started from the beginning when they didn’t have toddlers lmao
@socialily 3 роки тому
i feel like the main point u've missed with what cuased the sims downfall is what it was supposed to be originally. it was supposed to be a multiplayer experience and many early and unreleased promo materials that along with the emotions the fact that it was going to be a fully online multiplayer game up until a year before release was what caused many features turning out as shallow and unfixable as the are now.
@sadgirlchanel. 3 роки тому
Great video! It is very upsetting what the franchise has come to. If you didn’t already know, look up the history of the development of this game. I highly believe that’s why it’s so lack luster in many areas. Check out The Sims Olympus, it’s the online multiplayer game that The Sims 4 originally was before they turned it to an offline game.
@brightergreens6382 3 роки тому
incredible video !! I found the part about Lindsey's interview especially interesting since personally, as i am mostly a sims 2 player, i do fall into that "i wanna have complete control over my sims and their stories" crowd. however, i still find myself frustrated at the sims 4, since for a long time there weren't anything that could come close to the "memories" system my game had, as well as anger in the sims 2 that could last for over a week which is evidently quite some time in a sims lifespan. I haven't played that much with the sentiments, although they're a right step in the direction for me, because i find that i still lack elements of my game showing me the consequences of my actions. i feel like if you enjoy controling and creating stories in the sims, then you want it to be stored somewhere, aka the memories in the sims 2, or you could even create stories by taking pictures and adding captions. also, the reason why i enjoy such control is because the sims 2 provided me with a base to work with or against. contraints nurture creativity, it doesn't kill it.
@FairyBogFather 2 роки тому
This breakdown of The Sims 4 really shows how rich and nuanced the systems in TS2 and TS3 are compared to TS4. TS2 and TS3 sims feel much more realistic, alive, and interesting, while TS4 sims are flat, boring, but also like psychotic ? ESPECIALLY NPCs. NPCs in TS4 act so bizarrely and chaotically that I tend to avoid community lots tbh, it breaks what little immersion I had to begin with.
@nuthankyou9033 3 роки тому
The worst part is, according to steam, all the DLCs together cost ATLEAST $400. It's fucking bonkers. I can't name another game that would cost that much to own all DLC. I'm the type of person who likes to own all dlc to games i enjoy, so i stay the hell away from this one
@marziadelevo 3 роки тому
The eating out pack is completely nonsense. It's tedious, takes hours and it's difficult to keep everyone seated and happy while eating out. I hope they'll work on that. I would have loved to be able to go for a walk with her friend, access different lots in an open world style, and have real relationships with consequences for cheating and whatnot
@draculaissus6120 3 роки тому
This video made me realize the reason why I still like the sims 4 is that I'm a controlling person so it fits my approach better.
@h20aquarius 3 роки тому
Girlll-😭😭😂
@erikchengmo 3 роки тому
39:19 This is why I stayed with Sims 3 and decided to spend more money on Sims 3, even after I bought Sims 4. The "full" autonomy and details of the Sims 3 world is what makes the game feel so immersive, and despite of its barbie-like aesthetics, Sims 3 really feels like the real life being converted into a video game. Not to mention the Sims 3 CAS allows players to create IRL outfits in the games easily, because of its build-in texture and re-colouring system.
@kaydwessie296 3 роки тому
Oh man when you said the thing about the Bowling pack about how specialized packs work IN THEORY but don't work in practice, it got me fired up all over again about how many packs I bought on sale because I really wanted like 3 of the items, but the rest of the pack doesn't need to exist. I WISH they were just specialized packs instead of always hiding like one really good item. (Parenthood is actually fantastic though)
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
She had a very good point about the prices too. If they halved the prices of DLC it would fall more in line with standard piecemeal practices. They're basically doing what they did on the Sims 3 Store, except you have to buy the whole set instead of just the key item you want. Another issue is the lack of intergration. Every Sims 3 town had a lot that would be converted to fit a later expansion. When you loaded the world it would suggest converting a particular lot into a seasonal lot or elixer store. The closest thing Sims 4 has to that is new recipes available in restaurant menus, the occasional inclusion of new club activities and a pretty wide range of things you can sell on Plopsy. They could easily do something like adding magic realm options to the base game woodworking table (which mods have done) or letting you upgrade University bots with Eco Living eco parts.
@SoToniJ 3 роки тому
This video series is amazing!! I miss The Quxxn!💜✨ Back when Sims 4 came out I made a video on it and it was the 1 time the Sims added one of my videos to their channel playlist and I got so much backlash because of what I didn't like about it. It's so funny how years later people agree with me lol. I always described Sims 4 base game as Sim 1 and 2 remastered. My game was so buggy with the emotions that my Sims had a different mood in every room they walked into and it stopped them from really functioning. I stopped playing Sims 4 for 5 years and then when I played it again those initial bugs were gone, but I still didnt really enjoy it. I don't own any of the packs because I don't really like how different themes are all split up and 1 pack doesn't feel like it's enough to add to my story. I don't want to pay for things that should have been in the base game. Taking away the open worl and having to sit though a waiting screen makes me feel like I might as well play Sims 2 lol. I do enjoy watching people build in The Sims 4. I still prefer to play Sims 3. I feel like Sims 3 was ahead of it's time.
@wendynerd1199 11 місяців тому
I dated a beta tester for EA who worked on The Sims 4 right before release (he even got me an advance copy but I couldn't play it because I had a Mac at the time and only the PC was available). He wasn't actually all that familiar with the franchise, but answered some of my questions. Every answer made me angrier. When he told me about the pools I was ready to scream. And then he told me EA actually wanted to make toddlers PAID DLC. I straight up told him if they did that there would be riots because that is bullshit. Finally I showed him some of my Sims 3 games to try and demonstrate why so much of what he was telling me was so bad because he really, really wasn't getting it. After a few hours of fucking around in Isla Paradiso with my family the Merders, he looked a bit ill and was like, "oh shit, this really is going to be a disaster. Sims 4 has nothing on this."
@QuinnsIdeas 3 роки тому
Great editing on this!!
@IronSeagull 3 роки тому
Holy heck this is super well done!
@issi2699 3 роки тому
In the Sims 4 everyone always has to have babies if they cheat otherwise theres literally no consequence of having an affair. I was having fun with my sims 4 game for a while until I realized most of what was going on I was making up in my head and then making my sims play it out. Nothing happened on its own. After a while I got so ahead of myself thinking up storylines for my sims that actually playing the game wasn't necessary. It was all in my head
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
To be fair, I had the same problem with Sims 3. If you're the kind to get a narrative in your head, you get ahead of the actual gameplay one way or the other. That said, there is very little consequence for playing certain ways. I have Sims with terrible reputations and it only changes the flavor text of unsolicited phone calls. Occasionally I get a gift-wrapped rotten fish in my mailbox. Club reputation (which you purchase in-game) does more to sway impressions of you then your actual reputation or traits.
@issi2699 3 роки тому
@@BonaparteBardithion my issue with the sims 3 is I couldn't play past one generation before the game starting lagging beyond playability hahaha
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
@@issi2699 Continued lag is one of the main reasons I haven't gone back to it. (I don't do 2 as much because it keeps crashing.)
@issi2699 3 роки тому
@@BonaparteBardithion I've been playing 2 recently. I haven't had any issues with crashing yet. My Sims 4 has also been lagging on me recently, but I think thats my computer
@BonaparteBardithion 3 роки тому
@@issi2699 Most of my issues are related to the software not knowing what to do with the newer operating system. It doesn't recognize anything, so it thinks I'm running on obsolete hardware.
@kaylamika5926 2 роки тому
I can hop on sims 3 with no mods right now and still be entertained for DAYS
@jacky_mo 3 роки тому
21:33 „Good luck Charlie.“ I had to sit down 🪑💀
@abbyhayward4964 3 роки тому
This was amazing! As a long time simmer I love how in-depth you went!
@erikahelding1662 3 роки тому
This is so well put together and edited. I definitely agree with you that the only way you can get a lot out of Sims 4 gameplay is with your imagination. The saves I’ve played the longest have been challenges like 100 Baby or the Decades Challenge because the story is set out for me, and I do like that aspect because then I have full control to make the story how I want. But I remember in the Sims 3 I could play with just a normal family for YEARS. Definitely pros and cons to both, I wonder if there’s any way in Sims 5 they could make it so you could customize it so you could turn story progression on/off, etc.
@Sora6893 3 роки тому
I loved how in Sims 3 it was sooo difficult even have multiple relationship because of gossip, lol. Also, I remember having my own idea of a story like "ok, so this one will cheat, this other one will discover it but then in some days they will get back because they want things to work". Welp, my sim caught them (as I decided), but then, suddenly, I couldn't do anything, my own sim decided to go to the park (that's why I remember it was on sims 3, or I think...), think about the relationship (sitting on the swing, cutipie, also you could see that "cloud" thing with the face of the other sim), HE WAS HELLA SAD. And HE DECIDED that he wanted to break up with her. I didn't want any of that, he, alone, decided this. I guess you can expect that, after that, they couldn't stand each other and never got back together, even if I tried many times lol. It was, honestly, something amazing. Also loved the storylines in Sims 2, having supposed murders, affairs, the militars hating the alien family... damn, I miss so much of those things, Sims 4 don't even have like 50% of the interactions... One of the reasons why I stopped buying things from Sims 4 and just installed Sims 2, probably will install Sims 3 soon, lol.
@nikkiaddison5998 3 роки тому
How do you not have more subscribers? You are seriously dedicated to making well made, satisfying videos. I really hope your channel takes off. Thanks for making such an informative video.
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