japan: who is laughing now? u-ha ha ha!

Back to 30 year ago, I saw plasma Tv at the lab, I told my friend the future TV is v.thin, they think I am a big scam, ha. Ha..

show someone in the 90s a raspberry pie and tell them how much it costs. they would probably send you to a psychiatrist.

Show somebody in the 16th century a battery-powered flashlight and good luck not getting burned as a witch.

@@h8GW Tell someone in the 21st century that you've found a way to travel back to the 16th century... and it'll be forgotten as soon as they scroll to the next comment. Not a dig at your comment- just an observation about 21st century society

Look up JCBs hydrogen engine

The problem with hydrogen is with its production. Unless it is green hydrogen, it's actually worse than burning fossil fuel in terms of greenhouse gas emissions.

@@cyclocop1773 the very fact you used the word green means you know very little about the subject. Wind power is about the very worst environmental energy production system that could actually ever be thought of, wind farms are about 10 times more environmentally damaging than fossil fuels have ever been, but you be happy in your deluded world of ignorance. Hydrogen is an energy storage unit and not a fuel, which is in fact required because of the total failures of Wind and solar power.

@@myworld8266 I get my sources from the IET publications. Where do you get yours? Your arguments are flawed. Hydrogen can be used as both to store energy as in a battery and directly as a fuel. Solar and wind energy have an important part to play in the energy generation mix required to achieve net 0% carbon emissions. Converting wind or solar energy into hydrogen is very inefficient. It is more efficient to feed the electricity grid directly.

@@cyclocop1773 yrs of course you get your information for sources who have a direct investment in perpetuating a lie. 80% of the time wind farms produce no electric - during September 2021 the green technology provided a total of 1% of the UK electricity requirement (Governments own figures), when wind farms do produce any electricity it is usually at times the country does not need the electricity and so it goes to waste. The only reason the wind farms are there is because the Government funds them to the tune of £350,000 per wind turbine per cycle, again Governments own figures. The is a mass of failed blades which cannot be recycled and so will go to land fill, each blade is longer than a football field. The concrete bases used to put these towers on require between 20 and 50 tonnes of Concrete, to make the concrete generates between 10 and 25 tonnes of CO2 released to atmosphere. The only possible hope to gain anything from wind is to use Hydrogen - the wasted electricity can be converted to Hydrogen and stored in tanks then fed back into power generators to be converted back to electricity when required. The other use for Hydrogen will be as a replacement for natural gas - the boiler industry has already got working Hydrogen house boilers out there for then the gas network is converted dot Hydrogen supply. there will never be enough infrastructure to supply electricity to all the required EV that will be on the road, so the only answer is Hydrogen, which using a Hydrogen cell can convert the Gas to electricity to power the vehicles. Go get some books and do some real research and not rely on power company documents for your sources of information.

I wish you'd become one with the Internet

Lithium iron phosphate

Better get yourself some wheelie bars.

Tf is a powechair

As George says below LiFePO4 batteries are available now the give about 4 times the range of gel batteries with a great increase increase in service life. The wheelchair companies just aren't interested so it's strictly DIY at the moment.

I think the first time that I remember seeing something on it was in 1995 or so popular mechanics. I think I've seen someone promise it ever 4 months or so since then. The invisible graphene batteries while they don't actually exist generate insane amount of monies in stocks, grants, and endowments for people and companies that say whoops about a year later after anouncing a big breakthrough.

Graphine may get out of the lab thanks to AMD. they are working on it to produce faster pc hardware and from what I read, they were able to produce 5 CPU's that worked at incredible speeds. Unfortunately the tests ended with failures. They concluded that the failures were due to the fact that the silicon systems they attached the cpu's to could not handle them and fried. Their goal is a 100% Graphine system by 2030 and I feel like they could do it. One cpu was said to have clocked speeds of nearly 23ghz per core on a small 4 core cpu. That was back in 2018 so I would imagine that they have made at least some progress by now.

True

Theorically, graphene properties where theorised a long time ago... but graphene was considered impossible to be makable in reality... until 2010 when it was proven false. So it's not really something who is on the table for a lot more than 10 years... wich is not that much in the field of new materials 😉and the challenge of being able to make graphene is not really the problem anymore, it's more mass production wich pose a challenge

@@neilquechon8716 Cold Fusion batteries will hit the market first.

Cheers Darren. Much appreciated :-)

Errr ..have you ever watched the limiting factor?

Heard of LiFePO4 champ? Been solid state for years. This clown has half a clue about what he’s talking and jumbles terms and science at will.

@@flyingdutch9818 "Heard of LiFePO4 champ?" Doesn't sound as if the Holy Grail has been found. "The main drawback of LiFePOvis its low electrical conductivity. Therefore, all the LiFePO cathodes under consideration are actually LiFePO/C. Because of low cost, low toxicity, well-defined performance, long-term stability, etc. LiFePO is finding a number of roles in vehicle use, utility scale stationary applications, and backup power." Wikipedia By my understanding you would need four 3V LiFePO4 batteries in a row to equal a single 12V lead/acid battery. If you have the space and weight for three extra batteries good on ya mate. But not sure my iPhone is quite ready for this upgrade.

@@mafarmerga Sounds like you're confusing "batteries" and "cells." A "12V lead/acid battery" is comprised of 6 cells of ~2V each. A 12V LifePO4 battery takes 4 cells, or 1/3 fewer, to make (basically) the same voltage. Regardless, I'm not sure what you're point is. Are you saying that lead acid is superiour to LifePO4, and that's why your iPhone is using a lead acid battery and not LifePO4?

It just takes imagination. The technology has always followed.

@@phillip1211 true just how slow technology follows which imagination no one knows. In this case it has been following since last 20+ years

Just like viable nuclear fusion...

Have faith. In the world factory, it can already be made. Everyone is bluffing. instead of developing. Batteries are essential for world development, not just in vehicles but in everything. Batteries are saving energy, which is time.

I can see myself in 2023 with a *solid* boot on my face put there by the globalist *state* as they engage in *battery* of those who refuse their technocracy.

I remember 40 years ago the button style batteries for small devices being Lithium Ion. You're right, this is the way to go.

@@dxbmick I still remember when I was a kid and one of the reasons electric cars were supposed to be impossible was "lithium ion batteries aren't any good in large scale uses." And people are still butthurt about Tesla figuring out how to make big lion batteries

@@HolbrookStark ummm, if you look at the cells, technically tesla didn't make bigger lithium batteries.. they just added a whole bunch and now the entire bottom of your car is basically a battery pack... they did learn from the leaf though to make sure they added active cooling features for the packs to ensure the longevity of the packs themselves also.. it has been years with plenty of observation and research to show how best to maintain the batteries overall charge from deteriorating too fast as well as improvements to charge the batteries faster.. if superchargers didn't exist you probably would have never seen tesla's being bought for anything other than in town driving (likely 40 miles or less)

I have an MG ZS EV and use it as a second car to drive in the city. I do not want a bigger battery to lug around. Range is not an issue as we have a petrol car we can use for long distance travelling.

69th thumb up yo' ;|)

Lol I was *exactly* on your comment hen he said that. I liiiiike

Hopefully the Chinese will solve this problem.

i knew there would be a naysayer here...LOL

U means now...notebook didnt have fans?

nothing special, apple is well known for bad cooling, not connecting heatsink to kill performance etc. especially the mcbook air sucks hard.

@@Thor_Asgard_ the mack book air was one of the worst devices I've ever used but people still buy them because Apple = better.

@@xxzenonionnex7658 ppl are morons. they are manipulated beyond believe. no chance to rescue their souls.

@@beyondtimeandspace105 aren't you sick of the taste by now?

Glad you enjoyed it! :-)

Just as many, or more, have been hyped as the ultimate new thing, and are now in the memory hole.

I know of the 'dendrite' issue, but, I've also worked with Li-Ion cells for at least a decade. 😁 Good point though: very few 'lamens' would know.

Yeah the dendrites are the primary reason lithium batteries age. I knew what they were. (alright I’m the weirdo)

Anyone flying RC EDF models on 6S LiPos should be familiar with the dendrite issue. It's the primary reason we have to retire a battery from flight duty.

Tin whiskers or dendrites have plagued the semiconductor industry from the start, fascinating subject, NASA has tons of stuff about it on their site.

My old 1970-'s transistor radio receiver recently failed. It uses "lockfit" transistors, a type known to fail due to dendrites that grow over time.

He gets through an interesting mix of stuff. Like a combo of technology info and advertising, which is inevitable, unavoidable.

@@grindupBaker Yes he definetly does! When i was thinking something he basically answered it!!

I agree. Same feeling.

Goes back a lot further than that. The battery market has almost always been awash with companies over-promising and under-delivering. But progress is being made nonetheless. Its unlikely we'll ever have a battery that lasts literally forever and never wears out (stupid thermodynamics) but there's no reason that we can't have batteries a lot closer to that ideal than we have today. That said, there are some already-known limitations, particularly with respect to energy density. In particular, its not really possible to do better than lithium so the anode is pretty much fixed. The cathode can potentially be improved still but that was the focus for so long that any significant improvements at this point would most likely take a totally unexpected outside-the-box idea. Which leaves the electrolyte as the main thing we can really play around with these days, hence seeing so much effort put into this arena (not just solid state but liquid electrolytes as well are still getting a lot of research to try and improve their properties, limit dendrite formation, etc). Of course that's mostly for consumer-scale devices. There is a lot more research and a lot more possibilities when we're looking at grid-scale or even house-scale batteries. Reducing or removing the need to be physically small takes a lot of pressure off of that energy density requirement and allows a much greater focus on other desirable aspects such as charge/discharge rate, longevity, etc. Safety is also not _as_ much of a concern as its not likely to be in someone's pocket or right underneath their butts for the most part. Obviously you still don't want a battery with a high risk of a major explosion but you have a lot more flexibility particularly when it comes to operating at higher temperatures (which opens the door to even more possibilities for all three parts of the battery's chemistry). Its certainly an exciting field, if you're the kind of person who gets excited more by fundamental technologies rather than the shiny things built on top of those technologies. If you're looking for a research position in the next 10-20 years its probably a good field to get into. Particularly if you can work on grid-scale solutions which are going to be in _massive_ demand as the world pushes toward more and more solar and wind power generation, both of which require enormous energy storage solutions and most of our existing non-battery solutions such as pumped hydro are far too reliant on local geography to be useful across all of the areas we'll need storage before we can fully switch to renewables.

these specifications already exists, 30% less energy density is the tradeoff compared to LIPO lithium titanate or LTO cells are what you are after. but fast charging than lipo, not quite supercap speeds but very rapid- capable of high power delivery without overheating- and 30000 cycles. lipo is 2000-3000

I mean to be fair "charge in minutes" concept has pretty much come true, it doesn't take 4-5 hours to charge your phone anymore, if your phone uses power delivery it charges in less than an hour most of the time

@@lazyg123 Yeah, but people are impatient. They want batteries that charge as fast as pouring gas into the tank on an ICE vehicle. Longevity is more the issue with phone batteries - though there's still some question about how much of that is physics and how much is planned obsolescence.

@@altragyeah true battery capacity and life expectancy is still obviously a problem, that's why I said the first problem, and when batteries catch on fire or stop working after a long amount of time not being charged that is a very big piss off for sure yeah

Good tech level points, my workbench/projects are waiting..

And they still don't pay for themselves without government subsidies....They are also a burden on the grid. Hydro and Nuclear are the only useful "green" energy sources at this point in time and probably will be until storage is cheap, efficient and cleaner than simply running nat gas.

@@wayward03 You almost have a point except that... Wind turbines do pay for themself and (at least in Europe) only received a fraction of government subsidies nuclear and fossil have had over the years. Nuclear has a large hidden cost in the dismantling of old installations and there is the "slight" proliferation issue.

Russians start building a nuclear plant to put uranium 238 in use if they , not if, when they succeed the world will be supplied with cheap energy for another 5000 years and your wind turbines had looked pathetic 20 years ago and even more pathetic now

@@andreycham4797 Can you elaborate on this? The only new nuclear tech in the news today is Thorium-based molten salt reactors.

20 years. These solid state guys are say 2. I don’t actually think you can spend your way out of a development cycle.

Ever watched the limiting factor?

Problem is, you need scientists to research what the mind conceived and you need engineers to put this in production. At the moment young peoply study gender studies, social sciences, feminism and journalism. We have a surplus of those professions in a state of cool starving of most of the people doing them. But whe have a lack of scientists and engineers. Still those woke domains are pushed.

My mind conceives something greater than a battery. A way of harnessing the zero point energy field remotely would be the pinnacle .

I'm thinking on being younger again do you think if I think about it enough I will be, lol, just messin around lol

At this point I’m a little disappointed that he didn’t yell “DONT FORGET TO SMASH THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTTON!!!”

Who could ask for anything more?? Toyota!!

ASSBs are a dream for now

Thank you. I really appreciate that :-)

Nobody is making ceasium batteries??

@@miron__ super explosive!

electropositive fire though!

What I was thinking too, small backup batts. Murata makes excellent caps too.

@@mudduckfarmer9122 Yeah I often spec Murata caps because they come in the weird sizes that filter designs need. Hey I need a 6.75uF cap. Oh Murata does one. Sweet.

Murata are my goto for Automotive caps. Especially the soft termination types.

It sounds like the small solid state batteries available “this year” are already life changing for medical devices. I’d love a solid state battery in my Apple Watch, the solar lights I have outside (maybe to power LED’s inside?), personal digital assistants and things that track my schedule, pocket flashlight, and whatever else they can bring enough power to in the near future. Solid state smartphone that recharges in seconds? Yes please! Heck, connect up enough in parallel, and they may be able to power my 28W under load Mac Mini with its ARM processor. For the near future of EV’s, LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) batteries seem promising for durability, weight, and safety, though I suppose there must be some bottlenecks in output capacity (of either the battery power, or maybe the scale of manufacturing capacity?) otherwise we’d see more of them. I did buy one with an inverter, and it runs my Mac Mini and studio lights very well! For homes, size and weight isn’t much of an issue, and a bank of lead-acid batteries can safely be built up to power people’s needs. Lithium “power wall” type batteries are probably easier to monitor and maintain, but they’re an extra luxury right now.

Me too . Batteries are achilles heel of modern smartphones

Right. That would not be compatible with any conceivable time scale.

Me too. But I am really excited for this technology and I expect it to really take off soon :D

Battery dev gets hobbled by big oil.

John B Goodenough & Donald Sadoway are hero's // & should be national icons & awarded Nobel prizes for their ongoing work //

@@AaronSchwarz42 they don't have nobel prizes already???!!?!? Shameful

Don't lie. The pun was completely intended. I approve.

Very exciting things to come from Ilika. Invested and hope to repp the rewards in the future.

I see what you did there

They make some good stuff, their caps being the best out of any caps.

It also looks like they aren't promising the world. Small batteries might not be great for grid storage or EVs, but are still worth a large amount of money.

@@arthurmoore9488 They're also VERY loose with production samples, so once there's a part number if you have anything that even *looks* like a business you can get them sampled out as long as they're not ridiculously expensive per part.

The Japanese people take personal, family and company honor very seriously. They also have an insane work ethic. Their perspective allows for some of the best designed products that are complete with error free manfacturing and assembly. If it is make in Japan it is a high quality product. Perhaps the best of its kind in the world.

Yeah, instead of creating hype they announced it when they are ready for mass production. It won't help EVs, but at least we will get wireless earbuds with 20 hours of battery life (outside the case) or a smartwatch that doesn't need charging every day.

@@goodtreeministries3751 they also have a suicide rate higher than LA's murder rate in the 90s. But yes everything I own and care about is Japanese.

Rightly so given the projected 30% anticipated annual compounding growth.

I don't understand... ?

@@tombittikoffer412 back in the 1800 people started to make a good profit on tulip bulbs, well there was a small shortage, that turned into an unreasonable demand for bulbs, and after awhile the price of bulbs was like 1000 x’s the normal price.And when people realize this ,people stop paying at these prices , the price drop to normal ,people lost their shirts.

Not to mention crypto currencies...

Except that caesium explodes when in contact with water... even as little as a decent amount of water particles in the atmosphere could set it off. So when you get into an accident and the battery gets punctured, your car explodes. Just want car manufacturers are looking for.

@@jimbo2150 I wasn't even close to saying Caesium should be used for batteries; it's way too heavy to be economically viable. I was giving JHAT a chemistry check, as I said.

HOLD ON, let me just google whatever both you said here before I reply

@@nonoignacio, no Googling necessary. I have a degree in chemical engineering with a long-time fascination with batteries. Electropositivity is an element's affinity for giving up valence electrons, which is easier the further away from the protons they are; positive charges attract negative ones, and the closer they are, the more they attract. Children learn that the first time they play with magnets. When you go down on the periodic table, the more shells, the further the valence shell is away from the nucleus. Easy as that. That is the reason caesium reacts more strongly than lithium in water (and in general). Lithium still explodes, just less violently. Imagine those videos stabbing batteries being even more violent. Caesium would also be a horrible choice for batteries for many reasons. Not only is it monumentally more expensive due to lack of abundance, but it's also much heavier than lithium (almost twenty times heavier) for the same energy density/atom - one electron per atom, again. You know what is way cheaper than lithium? sodium. You can literally just boil seawater, AND it gives up its valence electron much more easily. Sodium is three times heavier, reducing efficiency for the same energy density/atom: heavier cars, bigger batteries in phones, etc.

As far as I've seen, most existing EV battery packs are already essentially just hundreds of 18650 size Li-ion battery cells all wired together to achieve the desired power output, with fire-retardant foam packed between them to reduce the damage that could be caused by any cell failing.

Yes, but how often do your lithium batteries get wet?

@@switchbranch8411 what's your argument against something that would give 3 times the energy density? The video said they weren't good for cars due to the concern of them getting damaged and being exposed to water where that would not be an issue for either lithium ion or solid state inside your house, but 3 times the density means higher capacity per cubic foot of space inside a house sounds awesome.

You don't need high density batteries at home for stationary storage purposes, that defeats the entire purpose. And you need only like 10-20 kWh max at home, which can already be 'easily' achieved by regular house storage options like Tesla's powerwalls etc.

While it sounds like a good idea, the main problem with in house electric storage isn’t energy density. It would be nice to have a smaller battery pack but many that can service a normal sized house can fit easily. The price is usually the limiting factor.

@@MaxThomas79 well these solid state batteries are supposed to last longer are they not? so over time they will eventually make more sense even if they cost slightly more.

Yes please, i found this to be a very promising technology in grid infrastructure in particular

I agree, that would be interesting, albeit perhaps disappointing. My guess is that Ambri is struggling with temperature expansion problems which shorten the lifetime of the battery. If so, they may not be very keen to talk openly about it.

@@andershjelmare4462 can you explain that expansion problem a bit? I don't see any obvious concerns.

Matt released a video on that 5 days ago. I assume you all have seen it, but if not, here's the link ukposts.info/have/v-deo/pWhoaWeroniGwIU.html

@@w0ttheh3ll I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that the main issue they were having had to do with contamination from the housing, not temperature. So these chemical changes are doing something to screw with their containment.

Some guy in a lab coat is going to change the world.

Mm graphene is the way. However mass production is hard

Hold on for a second. I agree as far as charging speed is more important than range, at least if we can agree on some minimum range necessity like 300 km. But charging is not as simple as with gasoline or diesel or even hydrogen for that matter. Let's say we need at least 40 kWh batteries. So to charge it up fast to 80 % in 5 min you'll need over 350 kW power. That's going to be some expensive charging fee. It's possible but people should start to change their mind how to charge their EV in most cases. It should be slow! The faster you charge the more expensive it becomes. It's not just a limitation in battery technology but simply economics.

capacitors dissipate their charge while idle far quicker than batteries...

@@Deinorius There's also the issue that the fast charging will shorten battery life because all batteries lose capacitance with each cycle. Your 100% charge being displayed is only 70% of the maximum charge when it was first produced. How are you getting such a low efficiency of charge compared to input though? Nernst equations or something else? Not disagreeing, just the efficiency seems a little too low.

I also would like to know. I need this software!

Yeah, they never claimed (back then) their technology was past development into production prototyping. I think the lawsuit is cover for competitors trying to kill Quantumscape because they were too far in the lead on development.