The glaring fact about disc 5 is that it is made of disc fragments, meaning that the story the disc tells is incomplete, hence the merging of Dungeons and Java could be two different discs combined into one.

There was another broken disc (11 if im not mistaken ) and if you play disc 5,and then disc 11 with the offset of 11 secs (or in the other order) they line up perfectly, and are making the possible story more complete. Hope you see It and probably make another great vid covering this point (sorry for mistakes i dont know english that good)

13:25 that has got to be the nicest looking wither i have ever seen in my entire life.

If you want the WHOLE picture for these disks you have to play disk 11, 13, and 5 all at the same time. You’ll get the full story

What if the frame *IS* a portal, a portal to Minecraft dungeons, the reason sounds come from both games, showing the story on both sides, perhaps they needed the warden to kill the wither to activate it. It's a longshot, but possible.

Holy crap, I didn't expect retro to be here

I like the idea of the frame being a catalyst. Maybe it went out of control with the Wither's death and covered the whole city in sculk.

i can’t believe you are in harvard

Excellent video, as always! Thanks for having me!

The use of the endersents might also be alluding to some connection between the sculk and the end. Like, has nobody mentioned the fact that sculk and ender pearls have uncannily similar coloration?

When you showed the dragon and said what sounded like a mechanical working (10:55) is actually the one Minecraft ambient sound

Absolutely brilliant. You put a clicking ticking background music over the sounds effects and chimes you are analysing to make sure the listeners get confused whether the effects they are hearing are coming from the back ground music or not.

I like how open to interpretation Minecraft lore is

Here's my theory on disc 5: The first section is showing people in the deep dark, based on the dripstone and other cave-affiliated sounds. It is an army fighting something, which is why we hear many people and sirens blaring. I think they are fighting the wither, which forced them to go beneath the surface. That is also why I think the ancient cities are more likely to appear under mountains, because it provides extra protection against the wither. Anyways, the wither you can hear creating explosions getting closer to the city. You can also hear a lever and a huge gust of wind in the track, indicating that the army has opened some sort of gate. That is then the end of section 1. After the music plays, you can hear the machine coming to life as the people try to escape through the huge center portal, which I believe they built as an emergency escape. That is why it is made of reinforced deepslate, because it is one of the few blocks the wither can't break. However, something else comes out of the portal instead, the sculk. That is why you can hear sculk shriekers and sensors. The warden then proceeds to get summoned, and kills the wither. You can hear the slowed down death of the wither in the track. The people then view the warden as a hero, but they soon find out he is deadly to them as well. That is why I think they built many representations of the warden, like the small statues around the city. Eventually, however the sculk gets too powerful and the people have to leave. That is when I think they made the strongholds, to try and get away to another dimension to escape the sculk. Also, any static or random cuts in the track I believe are just the fact that it was broken into shards, so it's not completely perfect. It's just a theory, but I think it's a pretty good one. Feel free to agree or disagree in the replies.

Normal Minecraft players: bro what is this sh** atleast make it rewarding Minecraft lore: *its free real estate*

Disc 5, 11, and 13 fit together really well

Something I've tried, which seems explaining, might help. Place three jukeboxes, count to 5, when you've done that place disc 5. Continue counting, until you've counted to 11, and then place that disc. Continue counting to 13, then place disc 13. It sounds connected in some way.

Who knew Minecraft could get this deep.

the fact that your production quality has skyrocketed since your older videos which are still amazing is itself amazing, the time you put into these is insane, and i love the few bits of shitpost irony tossed into an extremely well-made analysis. incredible job bruh fr

I feel this might be something else entirely. The ancient builders built the ancient cities but it too is possible that they built dungeons. We know they could access multiple dimensions. What if the disc5 is the story of the ancients, them escaping from the surface to the underground , then the warden appearing, the fight, escaping to nether and from there to the end. The unfortunates transforming into the beasts who will guard the entrance, while some would create duplicate copies for someone to rescue them. Food for thought

i haven’t played minecraft in a couple years now, but i always watch when wifies uploads

6:26 If you listen carefully, it sounds like a wither, which makes sence since prior to that you could hear soulsand being placed.

Wow cool video thank you (: i love your videos i think the caving sound is from mc dungeons wenn a stone wand/door opens

Alright, I'm just spit balling here. The voice whispering "secrets" and placing soul sand might be Ivor from Minecraft story mode constructing the wither storm. We already know that at one point there was wither storms in the nether due to the giant wither fossils in soul sand valleys. So it's not completely out of the picture that they might be adding something from story mode to Minecraft to add more evidence Mojang has been focusing on the past and history of Minecraft recently.

It’s a good day when Wifies uploads

5 is the amount of nukes coming to your exact location

6:50 BROOO, i just realized, the echo shards are basically amethist shards, because amethist is used in the calibrated sculk sensor to be more precise and capture sound better but is used for souls instead of sound like the recovery compass, how the warden pray intruder creatures to get more powerful and get the experience with the catalist that is droped by him. That is why this thing makes a lot of sens in the dark lore of the Minecraft !

Amazing, this is equivalent to figuring out the plot of a movie only by it’s soundtrack track. Keep it up!

This makes so much sense. There’s two stories at once and it makes sense, remember in a video about the warden you said the ancient builders split into two groups? One stronghold and one ancient city. The dungeons could be the story of the stronghold and the Minecraft could be the ancient city

the crossover between minecraft and minecraft dungeons is clear (and gives a whole lot more possibilities for lore, even beyond disc 5), personally i liked your theory, and have a few random things to say that are hard to connect, so here is an unconnected list: 1. the sound you described as a cave in also sounds like an endersent smashing, you can here a faint vwoop (thats the official term for that sound... right?) right as the cave shakes 2. the official novel about the arch illager mentions an ancient war between the orb of dominance and the ancient buiders (thats how the orb got trapped in that mountain in the first place) the encounter with the endersent could imply that the disc was made during this war. 3. you put my two previous thoughts together and suddenly, maybe it isnt a wither, but an army of endersent (and probably enderlings and who knows, maybe a dragon too) wait... that list was connected...

maybe the reason the story has random stuff in it like phantoms, amethyst breaking etc. is because its not complete, next updates might have new lore connecting to disc five making the story whole

I think that the giant catalyst in the deep dark city is a Interdimensional Travel Device (A device that allows travel between dimensions/alternate universes/planes of existence/etc) that the ancients built two escape from something and they couldn't control it and they ended up at the bottom of a cave that they could not get out of and that's why they went Extinct before the player spawns in the world to meet them.

I feel like the merging of a java and a dungeons story is probably because of the fragments that you craft the disk out of. You may have accidentally grabbed a wrong piece. This would also explain the out-of-place sounds like the amythest.

Disc 5 is truly a big mystery and I'm glad to see it covered. Skulk, the Warden, and the disc are clearly linked because of the design, but the breaking down of the music is unique. Great video! Quick edit: The link with dungeons is crazy and also the linking of the universes is very unique. That shot of the cave as you piece together where it must have taken place is something I wish was in more videos.

If you place 3 jukeboxes and start counting up, at 5 seconds play disc 5, at 11 seconds play disc 11 and, at 13 play disc 13 and when played together they make a comprehensive story.

7:00 what if its the new amethyst sensor thing in 1.20?

1:35 i always thought the clicking was because all the shards were crafted together, there would be bumps or something where they were joined so as the needle goes over the bumps on the jukebox it makes a click

9:18 ITS MEEEEEEEEE

That's actually a really creative way of explaining it

I THINK I GOT IT at 8:27. the phantom noises are there bc the portal in the middle of the ancient city was activated. This maybe triggered the warden and that's why the alarm is going off. and the warden is killing the people which explains why phantoms are spawning. Or, maybe the phantoms spawn underground, bc in Minecraft dungeons u go into caves (the fiery forge, red stone mines, etc.). whichever one you think

Thanks for this crossover. Ive waited so long for this to happen. Love you two.

Nah Minecraft’s greatest mystery is why the devs won’t make minecarts faster

im glad ur still doin well now, i was here when u were doing the hermitcraft meme videos. i also got a heart from you, its on the redstone rulebook guide video

The noise of something at 6:24 is so interesting and makes me think it is the portal which I kinda hope it is, or maybe its something from the new dimension where the portal teleporting us to.

Always surprises me with the lore he uncovers

These videos take a long time as you guys can see from all of this reasearch. Each time we see wifies not uploading for a long time we know it is going to be a banger! Keep go wifies!

Im proud seeing you get popular, i remember when you only had 200k subscriber and now you have 1.4m, you blew up when you uploaded the escape rooms video, and then the 30 secrets in Minecraft Which blew you

11:55 I love the greenscreen joke lol.

That is some great lore! Thank you for your analysis

That is an original interpretation. I like that players can come up with their lore and yet it may or may not be the real deal.

When matpat runs out of theory because of 4:38 😂

hey wifies! you probably get this a lot but thanks for making content. I love it all so much and I’m learning so much.

I LOVED the retrogamingnow crossover. THANK YOU!

Great lore video as always!

Wifies,you never fail to impress me with your content letting me know more about Minecraft thank you and keep up the great content

this has been popping up on my recommended for 3 days now, and now I’m finally watching it

Waiting for Minecraft to comment saying How did you know

2 best minecraft lore youtubers in one video? Love these and can’t wait for more from both!

sounds like an all out war... Battle Of The Five Armies: Minecraft Edition

7:37 Omgsh! I never expected this crossover! I'm so happy!!

MATPAT: are you serious right now?

is it me or has Wifies come back 10x better than before?

3:50 What if the portal opens and makes the weird sound and the portal connects to random place in minecraft dungeons universe EDIT: Oh okay so they are in same universe so my next quess is that the portal in mid ancient city connects to some place with the weird endermen from minecraft dungeons instead

OMG u had to do so much research. I have no clue how u did it. This video was awesome and ur hard work was showing off in the video!!

Would really love is this type of content aswell as the old math ones to be recontinued!

The matpat of Minecraft, lets hope its not gonna be 7 YEARS

The Phantoms being a call of mass death happening from whatever disaster is striking the ancient city civilization is terrifying.

it would fit the fact about the story of how that one painting shows the wither with a red background. The three adventurers, most likely the adventurers, parted ways and agreed that each adventurer has tasks. The first to summon the wither, and he/she died right after, the second, to do the ritual and summon an army as a backup in case anything goes wrong, and the third to defeat the ender dragon even if it means trapping him/she in there.

I still have no idea how this guy comes up with all this from just a disc in a block game, it honestly blows my mind

Wifies is soooo entertaining and these videos are always so deep and thought out, thanks wifies!

“Infinity War will be the most ambitious crossover yet” Wifies and RetroGamingNow:

I think the ritual is made to travel between platforms (java and dungeons) and that may explain the overlay. And possibl something went wrong causing it to be unstable so everything sounds overlayed.

0:58 Wifles yes that's a wool!

Wifies is the ultimate mystery solver, great video!

I am really excited about what minecraft is gonna do with an end update. I think that update will be the more lore filled one in the entire history of minecraft. One update where all the pieces from the nether, deep dark, surface overworld, maybe even the lord in the oceans and deserts come together into one cohesive story that finally makes sense and shows the entire history of the ancient builders and maybe even more

There's a video that plays both disk 5 & disk 11 at the same time. The interesting aspect when one does this is that the audio on one disk seems to fill in the silence of the other; Both disks having audio in the foreground & background, for the other.

At 6:30 the sound I think resembles a wither

I think it could also hint that the giant thing in the ancient city is a portal, because these ender things from dungeons are guarding a portal, why not an other one too?

The effect of an enter scent is actually just an effect when the re-recorded part switches to the originally recorded song on it.

Now this is a hard theory that even MatPat can take after

When the world needed him most… He returned (Great video btw)

I’ve been waiting for this since disc 5 came out!

Thorough analysis. Good work.

The fact that the endersent is mentioned to be in this lore and another lore from other youtubers is actually interesting

Fun Fact: In Minecraft, Beacons, Wither, Soul Sand, Soul Soil, etc, use souls to power. This happens in Minecraft Dungeons, when you use Soul Powered artifacts. You can also harvest souls with certain bows, armor, and melee weapons.

Only Wifies could think this much about block game round thing

Interesting Im not sure if anybody mentioned this theory but hear me out. A part of disk 5 is probably made when the ancient city wasn't taken over by the sculk. We know that sculk spreads when mobs die on the sculk thingy. Things got a little outta hand and assuming the ancient city had a large population (hence ancient CITY) there must have been one too many casualties down there and that is why there is the sirens going off and the dungeon phantoms that appear when teammates perish. Edit: Nvm you guys practically said what I just said haha

Nice job! More effort put in this video than Mojang does for a game update.

Thank you for uploading great content!

I have another theory, it is mainly the same as yours but a crucial deference at the end, I think that the structure in the center of the city is both an artificial catalyst and a portal to the dungeons world, and the killing of the vengeful heart of ender sent its soul/exp thru the portal/catalyst and caused it to lose control, covering the city in more skulk than expected and destroying the machine which is why the player can't turn it on.

Whenever you were talking about the sound sounding like reverse xp the sound kinda reminded me of a nether portal but then something came to my mind. It kinda sounds like a reverse respawn anchor but that’s not possible but it could be something that was never added to Minecraft or hasn’t been added yet or it’s just there for the lore and when you were talking about the Endersent I thought of it and maybe (slim chance) it came from dungeons through the portal in the ancient city and started hiding or hibernating (if they even do that) in the ground like the warden and then the music disc picked it up. I forgot to talk about how the person recording sounds like they’re hiding from those people and those people summon the Endersent and the person recording starts running away but when they get out there are phantoms which they’re scared of so they run back in and go to the ancient city. Also maybe the amethyst they broke was probably to stop the people from following them but they get through and they were trying to make a wither and finished and maybe they figured out how to turn on the portal. I think I forgot to mention maybe the Endersent turned off the portal. But this is 99% probably not right.

Man, out of all the crossovers no one expected *this* Great theory tho❤

There should be a story for the minecraft journey. Not like dungeons or story mode. Like a proper story that you can play through, that links parts of the nether, the end, deep dark and even lack of civilisation or unusual mobs. Who knows, a new biome might hit, and I reckon they should add a deep dark equivalent in the nether. As the nether should deserve it more, being a mysterious and dead place. Maybe the nether will get a story where it was once normal, and then burned down and destroyed. So the nether was the original world and they retreated to the "overworld"

Disc 5 sounds like Stage 5. Everywhere at the End of Time to be exact. The nice piano part reminds me of the clarity moments in K1 and N1 in Stage 5,

I hope Mojang release a trailer with disc 5 as the background music. It would be epic.

I love it when this guy uploads. So cheerfully morbid.

I think that the phantoms can also be explained in tandem by cave generation and the cave in, I recently fell from the top of a mountain straight to negative y levels of a deep dark biome, so naturally occurring cracks and openings to the surface are possible in mc generation, but also, if not already present it could be that the cave In exposed the deep dark to an open that lead to the sky up above

2:00 its that Sound when you hit something with an Arrow, Notifying the Player that something has been hit in Reverse.

Maybe some of the weird sounds is someone hitting a button that powers a bell making it play backwards

You know that you need to put disc 5 first in then wait 6 sec and put disc 11 then wait 2 sec and finaly disc 13. Only then ou will understand the full meaning of it.