I would not be surprised if this was unit was originally designed as a small locomotive and the company who made it was lets take these existing steam engines and try putting tracks on them for farm use

I legit had a girlfriend that had a phobia of trains.

It is a Lombard Log Hauler. It was never a railroad locomotive. The majority of steam tractors used horizontal Boilers

@@Leboobs22your name muahahahahaha

"They call him Charles" "half train, half giga-spider from hell"

Thank you!

Вот это машина на пару,2кочегара 2 водителя

Is the first machine not a linn tractor?

​@@user-wd8jo2gi9oИ она затопленная Дровами поедет в Лес за дровами и привезёт дрова на дровах. Никаких бензо колонок , ненужных трат. А ещё продаст эти Дрова же, привезенные на Дровах. 😅.

Wow!! That is so cool. I have to come up and see this thing in person some time...

the greatest feat of engineering is making things user friendly.

*they're

what does a steam engine need an 'idle' for anyway. you just turn the steam off and it stops :P the ignition is 'somewhere else' :P

They kinda had, you could just reroute the steam somewhere else and keep the boiler going without moving.

@@mactep1 With the throttle closed it will simply sit and and quietly simmer as long as you supply fuel and water.

Could have lived without the obnoxious fake bird and insect noises

@@proscriptusI dont think that was fake

@@Quebster they are. At the very least they have been tacked on during the edit. You can hear this because the video cuts between scenes, and the sounds of each scene change accordingly, whilst the forest sound effect remains constant, and in fact you can hear bird noises that start just before a scene cuts to another and end in another scene. The echo may well be artificial, too, since an echo that significant would only occur in a deep valley, and even then I don't think it would be so apparent.

it is not the generation it is the creation the Adam and eve of machines the father and mother of what we have today

Steam is powering your house right now.

Saw the same footage on a different channel. It's a 42 bottom plow.

1 raindrop and it cant move forward

Has a lot to do with weight, gearing, and low rpm torque Modern tracters are built to do things better and faster

@@wwindsunrain not for much longer hopefully

Yes, yes, yes! Thanks!

Ты ещё посмотри паровой автомобиль братьев дубль 1910 год запускался с ключа и за 10 секунд разгон до 100 , 800 км на одной заправке 70 литров керасина

Их в это время не убивали.

​@@user-xv9ig5tf3xэто уже не то. На керосине разогнаться любой дурак, так сказать, может. Ты вот на дровах и воде попробуй.

​@@DiDi-lg7ke почитай информацию про паровой самолёт.

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I recently seen a video where they called it a "road locomotive" it wasn't a tracked one like this, it had conventional steel wheels front and rear.

I was just thinking that the pretty much looks like a train without the wheels and no tracks I kind of wonder if it was converted from some kind of locomotive🤔😚

@@H2Oredfirefox they built a lot of similar type things, they called some road locomotives, some they just called a tractor, or other names depending on the manufacturer and region. Basically all of them are a giant boiler and a decent sized steam engine that can move under its own power.

@@goosenotmaverick1156 Still pretty impressive to see them running today

@@H2Oredfirefox oh no doubt! I watch my fair share of stuff like this, never seen one that was equipped with tracks, love this stuff! The fact that it still exists is impressive, the fact that some of these are still operable is an astonishing achievement on behalf of the manufacturers and engineers of the past.

Wired Percy from Thomas the tank engine thing vs killdozer

Weird Percy from Thomas the tank engine thing VS KILLDOZER!!!!!1!11!!!!

Thank you!

This is a Lombard. The phoenix machines were built under a license agreement granted by Lombard. Wonderful machines.

There's another one Janesville, IA

I live about a mile from the old Phoenix mfg site, now Phoenix Park. There is a working Phoenix Log Hauler in Wabena, WI. It was here last year for Pioneer Days. Cool to see it working. The steering mechanism of the Phoenix is a little different from the Lombard in the video.

Parabéns a esses homens que criaram essas máquinas! O começo da grande revolução que temos hoje!

My great grandfather and his brothers had a Phoenix. It got sent to Germany.

Lay, off, the, commas.

Класс.💪👍🤙🍸🍾🍷🥂🍻🍺😊

A Locomotive steam half track...i love it too!

Yes they are! It takes us about 3 hours to fire-up the Lombard from cold. In this instance it was the first run of the season and we had just completed the annual boiler inspection so we tend to take extra care. Of course back when these where used on logging operations they were under steam 24/7 unless they needed repairs.

But on the same note, you can see at 13:46 just how much work these engines could accomplish compared to what men without them could do.

Horses weren't easy either

​@@BDNeonand the engines don't get tired.

To be fair, these days if you were to make a steam tractor a lot of the labour could be cut out, you'd just have to change the design drastically to make that a goal.

The Lombard (the first steam tractor) was developed to replace horses in the woods of northern New England. Its was not uncommon to to have over 20,000 horses working in the Maine woods during the winter. The practical hauling distance for horses pulling a logging sled was about 4 miles. A lombard, on the other hand, could haul up to 300 tons many miles.

Le modernistes l’évolutions dû travail et de l’hommes et de la machine, départ pour la LUNE, )le cylindre de là loco et de la 🚀

It was not necessarily anything to do with how pleasant it was to run the machine but the efficiency. Mules and horses could only work so many hours a day and could only go so far and pull so much. To feed them through the winter or when working somewhere without forage they had to provide grain, hay, and water. Had to have people who's whole job was to tend the animals. To do the same job as these steam engine you need many horses & be changed out for fresh every so often which requires downtime. With this contraption it could work all day and all night if you wanted it to, and never had the stop it could go for miles and miles with no break. As long as you have wood and water and some oil to oil it every so many hours it would keep going. And to the industry that primarily used such machines the fuel was easy to come by as they were already cutting logs. To the solo farmer much like an Amish man today who has a small team of horses to plow his field, haul logs for the winter, pull his buggy into town, ect a couple horses or mules may be more economical for him because the horse can pull the mower to cut its own hay and it's not being used it will fuel itself by grazing. But for big operations the need for such machinery was dire. At the time these were invented the average person spent half of their money or better on food alone. Food was never so cheap and plentiful as it is today because of the heavy manual labor involved and the fact that farming at-scale for market required large amounts of manpower. Whereas these days a single farmer can as long as he has the right equipment most days without any help run a 200 cow dairy, hundreds of acres of field for planting, multiple chicken barns, or hog barns. Today less than 2% of the population are farmers whereas even just a hundred years ago farming was the most common profession. Logging today is similar because instead of requiring multiple people to tend horses as well as all the other work you just need the cut men, the equipment operator, and someone to haul a tank of fuel.

They did in the beginning.

@@thedude8046friendly conversation, morelike

Yep that's what experience will do.

Didn't you notice that the stoker is a woman?

@@paulbutikofer4284🙄

That's why they called those guys "engineers".

Well you don't need electronics or batteries.

Thank you so much!

Хе-хе, они его сохранили так как купили его в кредит на 60-80 лет! Представляю скока % содрал банк за такую покупки. И даже боюсь представить что за гачи-мучи прописаны в договоре за не соблюдение. Потому и работали на нём до упора.

@@Toni73RU 1-2% годовых максимум. А, как правило и вовсе меньше 1%.

@@Rufusail , ага - в мечтах XD

@@Toni73RU это реальные проценты на кредиты в США, Европе и Китае. 3% даже в Калифорнии считается дорогим кредитом. Ну и до сво Сбербанк в Европе(у них там были отделения) давал кредиты по 2-3%. Хотя ты же или дурак, которому лень поинтересоваться, либо пригожинская проститутка, отрабатывающая 15 рублей.

@@Toni73RU Раскажу вам как я три дня назад и стоял и смотрел на два дома которые стоят рядом. Один из Красного Кирпича 2 полных этажа крыша двухскатная жилая и полуподвал, квадратов жилых около 300 метра, построен перед 1 Мировой одним хозяйном Крестьяниним. А рядом новый в 2 этажа квадратов на 100. так вот у ногого как раз кредит на 20 лет а тот старый строился без кредита. А знаете почему, 100 лет назад налогов было меньше, строймарериал покупали пару лет до строики один год кирпич другой год древесину. Кредиты это явление этого века потому что всем всего хочется и сразу.

Чудовища.

I mean it still does use tracks, just a different kind :)

L’idée aurait dû être gardé et mis en fonction avec les autres véhicules et une seule voie de circulations, elles maneouvaie comme un camion d'où l’économie à la places de toutes ces voies ?

Many of those giant steam tractors were called Road Locomotives at the time they were built.

Well, computers were made with this idea in mind. But later SOMETHING went wrong and now we have bloated slow buggy software and hardware with backdoors me cannot easily diagnose nor repair...

that's a nice car

В чем не эффективно то??? В чем?? Он Case тянет 30 плугов за раз. При этом нет бешеных трат на добычу нефти , переработку её, перевозку её, Ничего. Этот же Case 150 , поедет в Лес, привезёт Дрова и на эти Дрова же, вспашет Поле. Где не эффективность?? Вы рассходы наверно считать не умеете.

​@@LeonidMiklaev думаю про эффективность тут в том плане, что КПД очень низкий относительно сжигаемого топлива и расхода воды. Если работать часа 2-3, то скорее всего потребуется довольно много дров. В лесу вы их не получите, если не хотите нарушить закон. Не говоря уж о том, что древесину нужно сушить перед сжиганием. А если ее купить, то даже если выйдет дешевле бензина или солярки, ее объемы неудобно перевозить. Тоже самое и с водой, вам потребуется машина, что бы постоянно заправлять данный транспорт, вряд ли вы руками будете таскать сотни литров воды или будете ехать на нем до дома. К тому же для управления подобным аппаратом желательно 2 человека. Так же нужно регулярное обслуживание, ибо ломаться будет часто. Ну и самое главное, данный трактор никуда не поедет за пределы данного поля. Его максимальная скорость вероятно не больше 10-15 км в час. Что бы на нем работать где то чуть дальше дома, вам потребуется вызывать эвакуатор, что бы добраться до места. В конце концов не просто так отказались от паровой тяги.

@@Mirkin1992 а ты попробуй раздобыть Нефть сначала. Сравни добычу Нефти весь цикл , затраты и сравни Съездить в Лес на дровах же ради Дрова. И да тытакже не знаешь о других методах сжигания дров.

@@Mirkin1992 Вы бывали на Вахтах ? На бурении скважин? Вы теряли на Вахтах Семьи? Вы легко считаете о КПД, при этом уверен вы не Вахтовик и спите со своей женой и детьми а доме. Вы вот эти Цены посчитайте. Как семьи ругаться Дети растут ради ваших КПД без отцов. Жены живут без мужей апосле уходят к другому. Вы посчитайте в вашем гоебанном КПД Горе мужика вахтовика что на вахте остался без жены детей . Я знаю что считающие КПД спят со своими женами играются с детьми тогда когда Вахтовик пол жизни отдает в Жертву ради вашего гребанного КПД.

@@LeonidMiklaev причем тут добыча нефти? Ты же не сам ее добываешь. Важно лишь соотношение твоих личных затрат к производительности данной машины. Но если смотреть на проблему в глобальном масштабе, как вы предлагаете, то получение дров выйдет в много раз дороже нефти. Неужели вы думаете, что дрова так просто получить? Если бы до сих пор транспорт в мире был бы паровым, цена на дрова возросла бы в десятки раз. А количество денег на выращивание деревьев вышло бы астрономическим. Ну и конечно самое главное в транспорте, это удобство. Если вам потребуется хранить вагон древесины и цистерну воды для работы своей машины, о какой эффективности может идти речь.

It makes a good story told around the campfire but as with many things the reality was quite different. These machines were very expensive when new. The last thing they wanted was to have them careening out through the trees. Much like a railroad, the haul roads these ran on were laid out to follow the contours and avoid steep hills. Great Northern Paper held a 4% grade against the load as the maximum. Special care was taken to ensure the road was well built and well maintained. A poor road was not only dangerous but inefficient. On average they had only 90 days for the hauling season. Yes, a steam Lombard had no brakes but that didn't mean they couldn't hold it back on a slope. The engineering can use the reverse lever to admit steam into the cylinders in front of the pistons. This works as a brake. Having used the technique myself it is quite effective though Lombard warned "not to lock the tracks" In addition, they spread straw on the hills to create drag. The idea was to pull the sleds down the hill as opposed to being pushed. We have to remember that they had been working with horse drawn sleds for many decades and those didn't have brakes either and could carry a load upwards of 14 tons. Accidents? Sure. They did happen from time to time but it wasn't the white knuckle death ride so popular in the folklore that has grown around these machines.

Was watching that video then this one got recommended 😂

Даже небольшой современный трактор более производителен , чем этот монстр

Yes, its a bit of a blind corner for cars entering the parking lot from Government Road so we always give a warning whistle. We actually have a dedicated Lombard log hauler road that is about 85% complete. We just need to ease a couple of the curves and do the final grading.

No part of this machine came from a locomotive or from an existing machine. The tracks system on this machine was patented in 1900 by Alvin Lombard who is credited with developing the first practical crawler track system. This one (No. 38) was built new in 1907 by the Lombard Traction Engine Co. of Waterville, Maine. Between 1901 and 1917 they built 83 of these machines. They used boilers purchased new from the Ames Iron Works and the bulk of the castings were provided by a local foundry. They were designed and built to haul long sled trains loaded with logs over snow/ice roads. We have swapped out the skis for wheels so we can demonstrate it during the summer months.

Actually no. Alvin Lombard of Waterville, ME. developed and patented the first practical crawler track system in 1900. Between 1900 and 1917 his company (Lombard Traction Engine Co.) built 83 of these machines. This one was built in 1907 and is only one of three operating examples. These machines were built new - they were not conversions of a locomotive. Just as they did back in the day - we use whistle signals for stop, forward and reverse.

How do you see where you're going in all the steam though 😅

@@scottanno8861 dose not matter steam powered half track.

Not a one off. From 1900 through 1917 the Lombard Traction Engine Co. of Waterville, built 83 of the steam powered log haulers. From 1914 through 1936 they produced over 300 of the gasoline powered (Tractor-Truck) machines. (we don't know the exact number) That included 10 ton models (as shown) 8 ton, 15 ton and 20 ton machines.

If my history is correct Lombard was the first inventor to successfully use a tracked vehicle. My wife and I actually looked at his house to buy in about 1990 or so. It had its own hydroelectric plant with water supplied by a small mill pond. I remember seeing the Gasoline powered log hauler at a dam on the Allagash River in northern Maine around 1958 or so. Could be the one at the Museum.

@@terryharper2024 very interesting, thanks. An impressive bit of kit

@@jamesrea8454 Correct! In regards to Lombard's house the recently removed the dam. The Lombard you are thinking of is now in the State Museum in Augusta. The machine we have was bought new by the City of Waterville and used for plowing etc. Later, it was sold to Starbird Lumber in Strong, Maine and eventually sold to a private collector who graciously has placed on long term loan to museum.

Yes, those are Phoenix log haulers built under a license from Lombard. Really neat machines!

@@terryharper2024 《 they were amazing machines - there were 6 or 8 machines used in the forest reserve, there is a photo of a bunch sitting in the bush not being used. The photo either at Western Development Museun or at Prince Albert National Park.

@@davidmorrison3697 Cool! At the Maine Forest & Logging Museum we have four Lombard's in the collection including the 1907 steam powered Lombard shown in the video, a 1914 Steam powered Lombard. the 1934 Lombard Tractor-Truck (also shown) and a 1928 Lombard Model T dump truck - all are operational and demonstrated on a regular basis. We also have a 1919 Lombard tractor truck due to arrive as soon as the mechanical work is complete. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/i5GFZX-Hb4R9wKs.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/nHJ2noylepBjlKc.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/l32KjLCsboN7poE.html

Its only 145 hp at 1,400 rpm but it has tremendous torque. The record for one of these machines (set in 1936) was hauling a sled train carrying 298 ton's of pulpwood. Here is some vintage video footage: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/foBomZyBraWEmnU.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/nHJ2noylepBjlKc.html

The very first few Lombards actually used a horse for steering. They did briefly experiment with steering from the cab but found the steersman up front to be better. From the cab you have very limited view due to the boiler and tank. As the engineering you cannot see directly in front or to the left and your very busy as it is! As for having the crawler tracks up front that would severely limit the available traction. As it is now only 8,000 lbs rest on the front skis with approx. 30,000 lbs on the tracks and when its pulling a heavy sled train even more than that. As it is it works very well. Both the steersman and the engineer and can use the whistle to communicate Forward, reverse and stop.

@@terryharper2024 My apologies. I think I wasn't fully clear with my thoughts. The entire tractor would be operated in the opposite direction, making the cab the front.

@@ElementofKindness Yes, Like a cab forward locomotive. Again, you would have reduced traction with the skis on the drawbar end. The way these machines were used it was all about traction. By our calculations there is approx. 11,000 ft/lbs of torque at the tracks. I know its hard to imagine but the way its setup does work really well. Remember these machines worked on the main haul roads which were well laid out and maintained and had ruts cut into the snow/ice for the sled runners. They were not designed for maneuvering in tight places. Their job was to haul heavy sled trains from the cuttings to the landings and return with the empties. One operation this particular machine was used on (1907-1913) included phone boxes and a dispatcher to control the movements of three of these machines over the haul road. It was not uncommon to have a train made up of 12 or more sleds with each sled carrying up to 20 tons of logs. Just one empty sled could weigh 3,000 lbs or more. Pretty impressive considering it was designed by a man who had practically no formal education and had worked for a good portion of his life as a millwright in the backwoods of Maine.

@@terryharper2024 Amazing facts, and makes a lot of sense. I still wouldn't have wanted to be that poor feller on the front, fully exposed to early 20th century winters though! 😅

@@ElementofKindness often they would build a shelter to protect the steersman. At least their back was toasty from the smokebox.

Huge inflation.

It was never a locomotive. It was built from all new components in 1907. The boiler was built to order by the Ames Iron Works in Oswego, New York with the drive train components etc. cast, machined and assembled at the Lombard Traction Engine Co. factory in Waterville, Maine. Locomotive style boilers were used in many non-locomotive applications including traction engines, portable boilers and stationary boilers. Just like a locomotive, the whistle and bell are safety features with the whistle also doubling as a means of communication between the steersman and the engineer.

Yes, Lombard's very first machine (built in 1900) was direct drive to a cranked axle and didn't steer that well. His second version was what Phoenix built under licence. I believe his thought was that the twin cylinders on each side avoided the use of a differential and maintained power to each track at all times. Phoenix, for whatever reason, stuck with this design were as Lombard by 1905 had moved onto the design we see here.

@@terryharper2024 Great info, thanks!

Yes, the tow vehicle is a 1934 Lombard tractor-truck. It weighs in at 10 tons. The wheels can be swapped for skis for winter use. Here is a video of these machines in action back in the day: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/foBomZyBraWEmnU.html

@@terryharper2024 very cool!

😮😅

It also assumed people were smart enough not to stick fingers and hands, etc. in places that could mangle, crush, burn and chop.

Yeah, the days when silicone packets didn’t need “do not eat” written on them when getting a new electrical device 🤣🤣🤣