OUCH!

But Steffi bt Sanchez 5-2 overall Grandslam Final

Steffi told the German press, that she had a very bad day due to her Menstruation cycle.

Steffi war die Groesste

Steffi lief oder ging schnell nach ihren Siegen zum Netz, heute wälzen die Siegerinnen sich minutenlang am Boden und ziehen ihre Shows ab.

@@frb7968 já. Ich hoffe, das sich das Profi-Tennis auf das besinnt, was es groß gemacht hat und was es letztendlich ausmacht: zwei Menschen spielen gegeneinander, ohne die Unterstützung durch einen Coach. Man spielt dabei nicht nur gegen den Gegner sondern vor allem gegen das eigene schwache Ich. Selbstbeherrschung und Selbstmotivation. Ein Gentleman-Sport im besten Sinne. Oder im Fall von Graf: ein Sport für Damen.

Here y'all go

for Bartoli being short in height and fat in weight, she is definitely a better player than Steffi Graf, if you want to think so, remember YOU are brainwashing me by saying Steffi Graf is great . By your own admission, Steffi Graff, needed to be tall and lanky to win grand slams, yet Marion Bartoli who is short and fat and won Wimbledon grand slam which Kim Clijsters never won, how proud is that? Bartoli is a better player just like how she is and was and Steffi Graff is a close eight to Bartoli as per Wimbledon 2013, Bartoli won without dropping a set is a million times better than Kim Clijsters who didn’t even make it to the Final. And Marion Bartoli is already a million times better than Kim Clijsters by winning 1 Wimbledon Grand Slam. So that makes Bartoli a gazillion times better right. All this is not really true and not really false, except in YOUR mind. Steffi Graf used to drop sets.

@@flash-uj6ly I've seen trollers, but you win the all-time trolling championship by miles.

@@flash-uj6ly Do you are a troll ? The lover of Bartoli ? Or just a French ?

@@nikitacalvus He wrote the same stupid things everywhere… I'm French, but Graf is ten thousands miles over Bartoli !

AND she was in that 9th final too

@@sheezamann2724 If you go back to ‘87, she won and was in the finals of the 3 she played that year too and she lost the ‘90 FO final. That’s 13 consecutive grand slam finals. No one has topped that.

And then Monica came along to bring that run to a screeching halt.

The goat

@@PRANAV737 agree. I respect Monica seles. The youngest grand slam winner in history & former No.1 who broke steffi graff's dominance. Even she won 8 grand slams before her age 20 yo, she was a lion along 91-93. Unfortunately she was stabbed by steff's fanatic fans. Can we imagine, if that criminal didn't stab her, then how many more grand slams she can win ? She is amazing. Thats why tennis world also put her as one of the Greatest female player all the times

I watched her 1988 Olympic final match, although I did not support her then. She & Beker looked too white (Blonde) to be liked 😃😃.

It can be technically "bettered" by also adding Year-End Championships title to the bunch, which is a feat labelled as "Calendar Year Super Slam" in tennis, which i don't think was ever achieved by anyone in tennis, singles, doubles, men or women whatever...the first person to ever win all 4 slams, olympic gold and Season-Ending Championships in one year will do better what Graf did back in 1988...

@@Summon256 In October 1988 Steffi was the holder of 1) the 88 AO title 2) the 88 FO title 3) the 88 Wimbledon title 4) the 88 USO title 5) the 88 Olympic gold medal 6) the 88 YEC title 7) the 87 FedCup title. This is the insanest record ever.

Really? Because I already saw it that she did what you just said.

You chose the all time tax cheater to model yourself after? Please aim a little higher.

@@jm7804 a lesbian (like Navratilova), a serial cheater on her own husband (like Evert) & a racquet breaker who threat lineswomen & chair umpire (like Serena) couldn't be a role model sorry man. For Greg Norman, Evert left her husband of 18 years & 3 children shhh 🤮🤮🤮.

@@rajusaha855 You lie right through both sets of dentures. Graf is no role model. 13 year old 7th grade dropout who got caught stealing from the German taxpayers and had to pay 7 million in back taxes and an addition 1 million donation to charity to stay out of prison. Plus, Agassi and Graf both cheated on ex spouses and partners Brooke Shields and Michael Bartels to be with each other. Agassi was still married to Shields, but separated, and Graf had been with Bartels for 7 years. By the time Bartels found out it was over she was already with Agassi. It's confirmed in Agassi's book. They started spending time together during the 99 FO and after Wimbledon Steffi came out to Las Vegas to visit Andre and in his words, "She never left." She wasn't married of course, but it would've been nice if she had broken it off before messing around with Andre. Stop acting like she doesn't have flaws. She has plenty. Everyone does. And NO, Martina's lesbianism is not a flaw. It's who she is. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. You of all people should not be passing judgements on alternative lifestyles.

I couldn't, agree with you more. Graf was pure excellence and a very feminine athlete like Chris Evert and both were tennis class.

in 1999 her game standard was awesome.......

I remember that match...hingis started crying after losing the match...graf also reached the subsequent wimbledon finals and lost against davenport..she then retired i guess...

Also to my recollection, Graf def the #3 seed Davenport, #2 seed Seles and #1 seed Hingis to win the 99 French Open. I don't believe a player male or female has won a GS def the top 3 seeds in the same tournament

@@rogueleader1988 It's an amazing accomplishment!

Marion Bartoli is a way better Tennis player than Steffi Graf. Marion bartoli had belief in herself that Steffi Graff as a great tennis player doesn't have even being world no.1 to win Wimbledon. Wimbledon is a grass court tournament and therefore amongst the medium surfaces. which means medium rallies dictated by serve and therefore less exertion of energy during a point and shorter matches in general. you get value for your shot! fat and short or tall and thin! when you play 3 sets against 5 sets for men, it is always an advantage. Marion Bartoli played a more strategic than a grind type of tennis in tournaments. good volleying skills as compared to Steffi Graff even in execution. Marion Bartoli had the belief that she could win and in contrast to Steffi Graff who believed that Bartoli would wear herself down and just lose(not that they don't have to play, just that they had to hang in there long enough for her to break down). Most of them slightly underestimated what she was doing in tournaments. She was an inexperienced player by that point who had proven herself as a former top 10 player. Her winning was really a surprise i.e out of the blue with already having made the finals twice but her consistency was questionable. She had unique two handed forehands and backhands. That was easy to replicate and master but once mastered it was going to be lethal. That was what spectators saw in tournaments of Marion Bartoli to a great extent. at Wimbledon 2013 she had some luck from the draw as 15th seed. she never played a top 10 player en route to her victory. the finalist she played: Venus Williams had already beaten Agnieszka Radwańska en route to the final. Venus Williams was playing her best but was probably worn out a lot by her battles with Agnieszka Radwańska and others. Venus Williams was in the form of her life but Bartoli had the luck of the draw. Regardless of whether your fat or not, if you make your shots even Steffi Graff may not be able to return it at Wimbledon. so if you are playing near perfection and having consistency with your shots then you are playing on a level field. then speaking of fat, technically Marion Bartoli may be classified as fat, yet she was the most successful female tennis player. Bartoli wasn’t really playing a specific style and really had weakness in tournaments and most of her shots had some vigor in it that Steffi Graf generally doesn't necessarily have. Here return games were spot on and had more errors and more importantly she can get Steffi Graff to errors first. all in all, this was a victory that was easily replicable or Bartoli after this mediocre run. She had belief and luck along with inexperience that allowed her to win her only Grand Slam. Marion Bartoli was dubbed as unfit and fat. She still made it to Grand Slam finals. Even in her Wembdon win 2013 she wasn’t fit. Marion Bartoli is an inspiration. It was really a fluke because Bartoli won by dropping sets and beat a few top 20 players along the way. Winning by dropping a set means you played really close to perfection along with dropping the level enough that allowed anyone to comeback and take a set from you. being fat may seem a hindrance, but is a limitation if you want it to be one. Honestly calling her fat in tournaments is really justifiable because she wasn’t thin but fat is really appropriate. And yes, tall and lanky players like Steffi Graf don’t always win , especially in the topsy turvy women’s tour. slightly fatter players can generate more power than extremely thin and tall players like Steffi Graff.

Yes, so intense.

There was no content, Steffi was hotter

@Max E maxeee dude, fancy seeing you here. Smh.

@@gary8306 hahahahahahaha

I remember reading that she was joyriding through most of that year and beating Martina and Wimbledon was her most exciting moment. After that, Steffi felt enormous pressure to complete the Grand Slam and was sick of everyone constantly talking about it. After she beat Gaby in NY she felt nothing but relief she had said and just wanted to get home.

Very strange and commentary also not promoting the issue as well. Weird.

she was young and not about records per se. The age of invincibility where at the time will not mean as much as it does later.

Well, back then there weren’t social media and the drama for historics

Not all Lesbians back Navi, I've always been a dedicated Graf fan. - Having said this I don't know of an entire grouping of people who agree on such a sweeping generalisation, it is with that sort of thinking that prejudice is born by ignoring the complexity of life.

Technically she was still 29 when she won her 22nd. Turned 30 about ten days later, but officially 29 in the books

@@spacemonkey4811 I put Martina on the same level, she is just so incredible. I mean she won a title in doubles at the age of 49! And she still plays even if it's just at the ladies invitation tournament at WIM. There was this ceremony in WIM of all the greats till the 90ies. There where some women ex players who could hardly walk. I think Martina will still be playing great at the age of 80! Because she never stoppt playing. I know Steffi does too!

@@juttaweise The reason why Navratilova was successful for so many years is simple: Many of the top players from the late 80s on were very early in top places of the WTA ranking - because they overcharged their body by training too intensive from early childhood on. And some of these rising stars had not the mental strength (f.e. Capriati especially). So they were younger and younger at the time of their first normal and GS titles: Austin, Graf (injuries even from 1993 on!), Jaeger, Hingis, Seles, Rehe, Capriati. Even Seles had many problems with injuries after coming back to the WTA tour, although she retired from the professional tennis for two years at the age of 20 y after being stabbed. It is mentioned in the German Wikipedia (de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Seles#1995:_Das_Comeback): "Im August [1995] feierte Seles ein furioses Comeback bei den Canadian Open in Toronto. Sie gab im Turnierverlauf keinen Satz und nur 14 Spiele ab und bezwang unter anderem Gabriela Sabatini mit 6:1 und 6:0. Auch bei den darauf folgenden US Open setzte sich ihr Siegeszug zunächst fort. Sie besiegte Anke Huber, Jana Novotná und Conchita Martínez und zog in das mit Spannung erwartete Finale gegen Steffi Graf ein. Seles unterlag in einem hochklassigen und von starken Emotionen geprägten engen Match mit 6:7 (6:8), 6:0 und 3:6.Im Anschluss stoppten Verletzungsprobleme die Fortsetzung von Seles’ bemerkenswerter Rückkehr. Aufgrund von Überanstrengungserscheinungen im linken Knie und Fuß war sie gezwungen, auf die geplanten Starts in Oakland und bei den WTA Championships zu verzichten. 1996-1998: Seles konnte nicht wieder an die überragende Form und die alten Erfolge anknüpfen. Chronische Verletzungsprobleme und der Tod des Vaters im Frühjahr 1998 warfen sie immer wieder zurück." In English: In August 1995 striking comeback at the Canadian Open - only losing 14 games in the whole tournament (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Canadian_Open_%E2%80%93_Women%27s_singles) winning against Coetzer who had defeated Graf in R2. Also winning vs Sabatini 6:1 and 6:0! In addition more winners during USO (Huber, Novotna, Martinez) - only stopped by Graf in a dramatic final on a level never seen before. After USO Seles was stopped by injury problems. Therefore no start in Oakland (wtafiles.blob.core.windows.net/pdf/draws/archive/1995/703.pdf) and at the WTA Championships (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_WTA_Tour_Championships_%E2%80%93_Singles). In Chase Championships 1996 Seles unfortunately had to retire in R1 (vs K date) because of an injury: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_WTA_Tour_Championships_%E2%80%93_Singles. 1996-98 Seles was not able to maintain the level of 1995 because of injuries and because of the death of father Karolj." English Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Seles) only writes: "This [AO 1996] was to be Seles' last Grand Slam title, as she struggled to recapture her best form on a consistent basis. [...] In the spring of 2003, Seles sustained a foot injury." In conclusion: The earlier the young ladies are successful in (GS) titles and reaching top positions in the WTA ranking the earlier they have serious problems sometimes leading to an early retirement for physical or mental reasons. This was the reason that players like Navratilova were able to be successful more years than the young rising stars, because their training in the 70s surely was not as intensive as the training of the young girls in the 80s. Evert's training in the 60s surely was not as intensive as the training in the 80s, too. Furthermore she played another tennis - her tennis was a not such a burden - only look at her service during the whole 70s. From nowadays in a view back to this era ridiculous.

And she won her 21st at the tender age of 27 years and 3 months!

Yep Agassi one lucky guy

@@proudindian2186 yu bet

She danced on court !

Marion bartoli is a better player than steffi graff.

Bartoli? You must be both drunk and on crack.

True

Arantxa was smaller and less powerful than her superior rivals Martina, steffi and Monica .... but my god did she have the heart of a lioness. Failure to maximize her potential should never keep her up at night.... such a competitor and fighting spirit.

Why? She wasn't hot

Arantxa had win 4 GS (three Time French Open, and going to Nr. 1 for few Weeks.) She was a great Player. I like to see how she fights from the defense.....a Lot of Player was more Talented then her ( Gabi Sabatini) but win not so much Grand Slams. But if you look......Arantxa wins the Roland Garros Final ( the biggest surprise) and loosing then always straight against Steffi.....i think she was really good at the Year 1992. Behind Monica she was the strongest Opponent for Steffi. (US Open 1992 Quarterfinal Arantxa beats Steffi (not in Topform- but it´s doesn´t Matter) First Time not on Clay. She wins Miami (against Sabatini), Montreal (against Monica)....and in the Beginning of 1993. Her Best Time was from 1994- End of 1996.

@@holgerniermann8887 Yes yes,.. but how about the looks? She wasn't hot enough. She should have never been allowed to enter the tour.

I think Steffi wanted to leave when she was on top of her game. I say kudo's to her.😊

Williams at 30 had only 13 slam. This defines the issue on Who Is the GOAT. If Graf would have played five more years she would have won ten more slam. So 32 against 23.

@@raffaelecafiero3608 Williams played in a much harder era than Graf. Williams longlivety is unmatched.

@@PatoNani18 are you joking? Harder why? She had nearly no opposants.

@@PatoNani18 longlivety or obstination ?

total lie

@@jm7804 Exactly ! Here people forget Monica Seles and...Gunther Parche ! Monica "died" as a tennis player was she was...19 years old, due to a Graf-fan. Graf "must" say "thanks" to a ...total fanatic brainless ! Monica 19 years old...with 8-9 titles of the Grand Slam was the rising star ! 22 title of Steffi Graf are deserved and "fake" at the same time. And she knows, despite not being guilty for this.

Lava1964 so i do! My fav tennis player

When she withdrew from tennis, my last favorite tennis player was Justine Henin, because she played like Steffi.. now I don't have one anymore.. #sighs....

@Max E you just probably named my 4 favourite players of all-time. Maybe I would have to include Boris there, he wasn't born that far either?

@Max E hahahahaha great comment specially the last sentence ;o))

Not she, is he.

@@kike4990 troll

Also, so sober attires -- nowadays the ladies come almost naked, more glamor than substance. We used to watch women tennis more in those days -- each lady used to be so dignified. Last 10 years women tennis had been unwatchable.

they broke the mold when they made Mrs. Parche

Please drop the bullshit! She was already on her “last wheels” in 1999! Even if she did stay for a while longer, she would become punching bag for the Williams Sisters, Capriati, Davenport, Mauresmo, Clijsters, Henin etc…all of whom were rocking the tennis scene switching roles from 2000 till 2008!… She wouldn’t have much of a chance with that kind of competition in early 00’s! At absolutely best she would squeeze out an extra title or two…

@@Summon256 against capriati? Lol😄😄😄 Graf was 10-1 vs capriati. Against Davenport Graf was 8-6 Against Serena Graf was 1-1 (actually 2-1) if we add their Hong Kong exhibition. Against Venus her h2h was 3-2 Against Hingis her h2h was 7-2. Again if Steffi would played 5 more years she easily could have won atleast 4 or 5 slams.

@@Summon256 Winning a Slam at Roland Garros (defeating No 1,2 and 3 of the world) on her "last wheels" and reaching another Slam final at Wimbledon? Seriously?

@@_friedie My point is she wasn’t dominating 2nd half of 90’s! After two seasons winning 3 slams back to back in 1995 and 1996 she hasn’t won any in 1997 and 1998 and won only one in 1999! During that time frame Hingis was dominating along with Davenport! Graf wasn’t even top player anymore in 1999! Lol She was in 1999 what Sampras was in 2002…had just a good summer, where she focused to perform well…

@@Summon256 You know that Steffi came back from severe injuries she had 1997 and 1998. And in 1999 she was back at No3 in the world when she retired. In later exibitions you could see, that the old Steffi was still there. And she would for sure not have been a punching bag for the Williams sisters (leading 5:3 against them in matches combined) or the other players you mentioned.

The most complete women's player ever, there wasn't a single weakness to her game

Ya because she played in an unexplicably weak era Moreover she was successful in getting rid of her prime nemesis seles through her agent Gunter parche.

Zahid Hossain Graf already had 11GS titles before Seles had the minor wound. You clearly do not know what you’re talking about.

Zahid Hossain you definitely do not know what you’re talking about. You’re just guessing and what you’re saying are your own sad opinions. Stick to tennis stats. Read about Graf’s tennis history and achievements. FYI - Graf is the one and only Golden Slam winner, not Seles, not Serena.

@@jackreacher9531 ya in that crap era winning a double golden slam was also very much possible.

@@jackreacher9531 ya everybody knows whom she defeated enroute winning those 11 GS. Barring Martina and Chris all players were either average or absolute crap. Arantxa Sanchez vicario. Sabatini. Novotna.etc kimiko date, zina garisson etc etc etc. Her real competition came in the form of Monica seles whom steffis boyfriend ( ☺️☺️) was able to get rid off . Seles used to beat steffi almost at will those days. Seles was just 16 when she won the RG title. She won 8 GS under 20 years...Whats more scary is she didn't even hit her peak when she was stabbed. Just imagine how many GS she would have ended up winning if that incident didn't happen. Given few more opportunity seles would have defeated steffi in wimby as well

I put her #2 behind only Serena Williams.

@Illya Kuryakin Retiring at 30 means nothing since Graf was going downhill when she retired, winning only 1 slam the last 3 years. She would have been lucky to win anymore, maybe 1 more at best.

@@tylerbam7183 only an idiot mentions the doper sisters

@Illya Kuryakin why are talking about SW, the drug cheat.

@@tylerbam7183 Martina Navratilova won more titles than SW and VW combined with the! 344 career titles. MN is the greatest tennis player in history. Nobody is even close. Suck on that! Stick a fork in Bonds!

It is truly breath-taking that even after she won the GOLDEN SLAM YEAR, Steffi was so kind and humble about it. Steffi was truly exceptional.

Steffi earned her 22 grandslams before 30. Eventhough Serena may have beat her with the total # of grandslams singles, her 1988 Golden slam & Career slam plus her 107 titles will never be beaten by Serena. She have more class, grace in the court. She doesn't act like spoiled or entitled, breaking rackets, argue or abuse line judges and chair umpires. Steffi will always be above than Serena.

Why was this even necessary?

@Illya Kuryakin I would

@Illya Kuryakin under that circumstance too and any other circumstance your wildest imagination can come up with.

Yes but Serena 23 and still play.. 👍👍👍

@@social_impact7776 Steffi retired at age 29 with 22 gs, Williams is 37!!

At age 29 Williams was at 13 gs. Put that into perspective

@@julianwessl7799 its not only about ages. It's abt how many GS u hv. Serena still playing tennis and still great until now. But.. i love Steffi too

@@julianwessl7799 and she won 10 grand slams after turning 30. that tells you how difficult it is to do that. in sports age is the biggest factor, and she defies that. it's a thousand times more difficult to win when you are in your 30's than to win when you were in your 20's.

Well said!

@@carrerau7138 For me Boris Becker / Edberg/ Borg /Graf and Hingis was all I needed only Aggassi's clothes got me a place reprimand :) he had the coolest clothes

absolutely!!!!!!!

You lot can’t just praise your faves without taking a dig at Serena and that alone speak volumes.

just once can someone praise their favourite players without dragging serena down. people drag her so low to pull other players up so high and it’s so unnecessary.

@@oliviatagoeduring is that surprising? Serena did things, even against her opponents, which she did not really needed doing, why she lost the respect of many people. In comparison with Steffi who never did that. When she lost, she lost, it's just a game seems to have been her motto!

@@juttaweise still unnecessary. serena can be fiery, it just shows her passion for the game. she’s not like that on a regular basis, it’s unfair to judge her by her worst moments.

than she sould give this infamous point to Martina.

Serena Williams

And the Golden Slam

Adhishree Trivedy Nope. She only has 3 French.

@@JSmith-zr2ve lol a lot of players would die to say "I only have 3 French opens"

@@adhishreetrivedy6718 Serena has won 3 FO titles

But never more than 2 per year.

Pretty sure she was 10-1 against Capriati, too.

SELES WOULD HAVE DONE LMAO IF NOT FOR THE STABBING FUCK ME SELES WOULD BE ON ABOUT 28 SLAMS AND STEFFI ABOUT 15

This is the very definition of cherry picking.

Sorry, thought you were saying Seles had a 5-2 advantage, which would not have been true. Haha. So many irrational Graf haters, I got confused.

absolutely! the REAL QUEEN , STEFFI

@Illya Kuryakin Yes you are right, she turned 30 in June and retired in August.

Make it one of the top one players.

wished she had used it more brilliant shot and she wishes that too

True ! Very painfull for me as a german fan that Monica got so badly hurt in Germany. She was the only one who could hold a candle to my favourite Steffi constantly

Yes if Monica wouldn't been stabbed, Steffi wouldn't have got this name

@@akjilani1703 She already had won the Grand Slam, already had won every slam multiple times, already had 6 straight years winning atleast one slam. So no Steffi was already a major all time great even before the stabbing.

One of the best*

@@regulusarcturus she is the GOAT.

Djokvic is Goat. Because he had to break domination of 2nd and 3 rd best tennis players all time.@@rajusaha855

I don't think they are teaching beginners.

great data point

Peter Gasper Exactly!!!

Misleading. Although Serena's career spanned longer, she played the same amount of slams as Graf when she reached 22

@@paigehere5176 stop spreading lies it takes Graf lower amount of g.s tournament to win 22 slams than Serena.

@@paigehere5176 Serena won her 22nd slam in her 66th tournament, Steffi in her 53rd.

it really isn't fair to even say this for 2 reasons...1)tennis has not always been a part of the olympics...2)in the early 40's, i believe the only gs to operate was the us open....

Sheeza Mann hahahaha hater!

@@Munkyjoe1 HATER of what?--i like steffi, i just don't think the golden slam should be used to call her the greatest...when others never had the chance....

@GeorgeHenryThomas don't know where you get your info from....but don budge, rod laver, maureen connolly, and margaret court NEVER HAD THE CHANCE...because tennis was NOT in the olympics from 1928 until 1988......are you understanding now?

@GeorgeHenryThomas I SEE YOUR POINT...but, it still takes away from others...when the chance wasn't there.....

By beating the current world no 1 at that time named Martina

If someone else didn't have "ruined health" at 19 Steffi would have won maybe 13 total.

@@jondavwal13 well said

@Amanda Cerny Dont think so.

​@Amanda Cerny you asked you to think anything ? What ? How do you connect a 'do not think so' , with crying ? Steffi had 22 GS at age 30 plus a golden slam, and a numerous of unbeaten records. What are those facts besides the 23 GS ? I am not going to agree that Serena is the Goat just because of 23 slams, following your reasoning M.C. Smith is the GOAT. Not to mention her classless behavior on the court...

@Amanda Cerny looking at the way you express yourself I am going just to end it here. There is no reason to spend my time reading bruh and lfmfao. This is kindergarten talking. Good Bye.

8 from 9 in a Row.....AO 88- AO 90 ( beats MJ Fernandez 6:3, 6:4 in Final) . 13 Grand Slam Finals in a Row. FO 1987- FO 1990. Zina Garrison broke this incredible Series in Wimbledon 1990. (One of the biggest surprise). But Zina deserve this success. (beating Seles in QF after defending Matchpoint). This is the Reason Martina could win her ninth Single Title in Wimbledon (All- Time Record).....

Martina won 6 in a row in a 2 year period(3 in each year) so no Grand Slam.

No one ever won 8 grand slam titles at Teenage. There's a reason. She was not allowed to play her natural game in final. And after her stabbing she clearly lost her mojo .she was never the same stabbing followed by her father's terminal cancer ruined her..she went fat and unfit due to emotional eating and that caused her opponents to catch up on her. Without the stabbing none of that would happen and she would win many many slams including Wimbledon. If Nadal could win Wimbledon Seles also would definitely atleast once

Martina is the GOAT.167 titles¡¡¡

Illya Kuryakin The guy/girl never said the stabbing had anything to do with her dad's cancer. He/She said Seles was never the same after her stabbing FOLLOWED by her dad's cancer.

@Illya Kuryakin 23GS it is not easy. And 23 is better and bigger than 22. The world know it.

@@biswarupganguly1620 "No one ever won 8 grand slam titles at Teenage". Incorrect, Connolly won 9 as a teenager, all 9 she played aged 16-19. And that was with skipping 7 of them. Clearly more dominant and successful than even Seles as a teenager. And Graf won 7 or 8 as a teenager but hers unlike Seles included the Calendar Grand Slam. As for Nadal he is better suited to grass than Seles but he is still no dominant Wimbledon player. Only 2 titles, and a bunch of early round losses. Seles might have won a Wimbledon in a year she got a weak draw without the stabbing, but that is it.

Haha Federer is not god both Rafa and Novak are better but still women level is nowhere near men and also compidition you should not compare.

Steffi is the G.O.A.T. overall

Lol I don't remember Steffi being a choker

She even won 21 slams within 9 years and 3 months in 1987-96! 😍

as extra trivia, you might or might not know that ... Martina Hingis was named after Martina Navratilova

@@patrickviet6786 thanks buddy.. however I knew this

And both were in French Open

And both Martinas were number 1 at the time.

@@RoChede now that's really interesting!

Pls Roger is a choker and not even the best among the big 3, y'all have a boner for him because of that one handed backhand and that grace and class BS

Nope, just for old heads.

@@paigehere5176 sadly women's tennis died when Steffi retired & then Henin retired. The PED using & masculine sisters destroyed tennis especially Serena. It's good that disgusting & ugly Serena had retired now.

LOL. Female is enough.Mens is a whole other cup of coffee.

@Mark Decena I so agree! I'm tired of these stupid "what would hv happened if seles wasn't stabbed blah blah". We dibt care what WOULD happen. We only care about what DID happen. Excellent arguing btw! #steffigrafistheGreatestOfAllTime

@Mark Decena exactly!

i think she retired after losing the '99 Wimby final against Davenport

Such humility so rare..

Great athlete but if she is or not a lady it doesn't matter

ignacio lopez Are you serious? Of course it matters! It goes to show where your up bringing and values are!!

Hmm.... not against Seles. Too bad about the stabbing.

Jordan Bee Too bad Seles wasn’t mentally tougher to come back sooner. Her fault for letting such a little scratch take her out of the game for so long...boo hoo

Serena beyond her. 23GS and still productive until now. 🙏🙏🙏😂

She's the greatest, just remember she won 22 and retired at age 30. If she played till age 35 who know how many she could have won!

Shes a woman she cant be the greatest

You're right she's a woman not the greatest just perfect

@@social_impact7776 SW the drug cheat that never beat anyone

But most dangerous was prime Seles

@@thebigmonstaandy6644No, 1987-89 Navratilova was more dangerous. Seles was only dangerous for a slumping Steffi.

Yes or maybe 12

@@markdecena4559 Considering that Serena won 14 slams post-age-27 that is a conservative estimate as well. I mean, just look at how fat Serena became in her 30s but how Steffi kept her goddess’s body well into her 40s!

stimmt. Straßenfeger, so wie Borg-McEnroe, oder Boris ;o))

Agreed. Total number of Slams is not enough, as Margaret Court isn't considered the greatest by almost anyone. It's much more difficult to accomplish the Calendar Year Grand Slam (plus an Olympic gold medal) than it is to have the record for most Slams. Many players have had the record for most Slams (it's a record you can always chase) but how many have achieved the Grand Slam? Graf and Laver. It's recency bias and a lack of historical perspective, as well as the American media, that have created this notion that Serena is the greatest when she's nowhere near that.

@@ipseite I wouldn't say that Serena is no where near being the greatest, but what Steffi achieved is more impressive. Nevertheless, both players are phenomenal, and once in a generation talents.