Sweet dreams are made of....metal?

10 місяців тому

The Rab Ionosphere 5 is one of Rab's new range of insulated sleeping pads. The TILT (thermo ionic lining technology) allows for a warm but very lightweight inflatable sleeping pad. Perfect for wild camping in the UK
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@bartonianoutdoors 10 місяців тому

Some of the Snugpak sleeping bags have been doing it for years - Reflectatherm, this metallised fabric is designed to reflect heat and retain warmth. A highly breathable material, which adds little to the weight or packsize of the product and provides at least 15% additional warmth whilst being undetectable by touch in the sleeping bag or garment.

@markatchison9974 10 місяців тому

It seems Rab have created the perfect 1 season sleep system, & seeing as most people camp & hike in summer in the UK & European climate; It's the majority of the market & at a reasonable price. When I come to renewing my gear, I'll certainly be looking at Rab. I'll trade my wife in. Get rid of one knackered old bag at least.

@Tom-eq6vo 10 місяців тому

The Stratosphere 5.5 looks like a super mat for the money. Not sure how I’d fair with the width but otherwise a lot cheaper than Therm-a-rest.

@CameronVirrill 10 місяців тому

Appreciate your friendly, approachable manner and focus on practical comfort. Cheers.

@joewagnerphoto 10 місяців тому

Great videos, Paul! I love how you're exploring the latest and greatest. Keep it up!

@wizzoneill 10 місяців тому

Slept on mine up in the Lakes ontop of Eel Crag at Easter. Nice bit of kit, comfy and warm. Used with my Quilt. Night time temp dipped below zero.

@THE-RIVER-RAT 10 місяців тому

Looks well made, and I like the idea of the anti slip technology. Great review

@wanderkalli4711 5 місяців тому

Nice Review, i buy the 5.5 and it will arrive me at tuesday. Cant wait for the first night out in this weather time. I wish you fun with the stuff! Kalli from Germany

@judesgoldpearls7828 10 місяців тому

Another great and informative video! Thank you Paul! 😊

@SvenRayson 10 місяців тому

Looks a great pad. I'll have to save up and try and buy it in future. May even get the wide version

@jamesccutts 10 місяців тому

Great video Paul, just before watching this I took a punt and popped a order in for the Rab Stratosphere 4 Mat in hope it should be a good upgrade over my Alpkit cloud base as for the price it seems to be ticking all the right boxes. They certainly look excellent quality and looking forward to giving it an outing, though in now jealous I dont have a mat in such a fetching colour or with fancy TILT metal :D

@joshwillis4523 10 місяців тому

Looking forward to this one !

@jimmysgameclips 10 місяців тому

I find this lightweight gear, from a design perspective, fascinating. It's very cool

@adamjhayes59 10 місяців тому

Looks impressive, and the price is good too.

@seankirk333 10 місяців тому

Look forward to your reel world review n a better description of the technology explained

@shaunjones9528 10 місяців тому

Always find your videos really engaging with the information you provide etc! Could you do a video on how a beginner ( someone new to camping) how to pack your bag and essentialls you should have ❤️

@user-pv7qv2ie5x 10 місяців тому

He has quite a few videos that cover beginner stuff from essentials, packing bags, choosing gear and scouting places to camp. I think you just have to dig around in the video history rather than a set playlist.

@nicholasgalpin6711 10 місяців тому

They seem to be going in at the Exped Ultra price point. The Ultra 5R is the same price, R value but 100g lighter but I guess they are hoping the Rab brand will outsell Exped. I have the 3R and despite thinking it looked far to skinny (I normally use an ME Aerostat 7 wide, the daddy of camping mats!) the two nights I’ve used it for so far have been very comfy.

@hikermikem8 10 місяців тому

Wish ide seen this before ordering an AlpKit Whisper sleeping pad 2.4 r.. This Rab looks and sounds ideal and good 4 seasons I think.. Nice and quiet also. 👍

@Ikreisrond 9 місяців тому

R-value isn't tested the same across manufacturers.

@FTW86itall 10 місяців тому

Looks good and not a bad price tag imo

@doozerakapuckfutin 10 місяців тому

Two red light run songs your spoiling us again … thank you 👍

@PhilCherry3 10 місяців тому

The width is the deal-breakers for me.

@neilholmes8200 10 місяців тому

Yeah it looks well too narrow and short for me

@davehumpleby3440 10 місяців тому

Ditto.

@chrishamilton2527 10 місяців тому

I’ll be sticking to my warmer, wider and longer Thermarests.

@grelumbass 10 місяців тому

They do a long and wide version - £20 dearer

@andrewsykes5387 10 місяців тому

I have been using this for a while. Better than thermorest in value and exactly the same warmth. Zero heat loss and a great night's sleep. Definitely on a par with thermorest but far better value. There are a few videos online that's worth watching as they have been out a while.

@thebikepackingadventurer 10 місяців тому

With those silicone grippers, I always turn the pad over to grip the tent. If you sleep on it the right way up your sleeping bag will grip it and possibly put stresses on the stitched seams

@antduke2361 10 місяців тому

The moon is made from cheese too

@thebikepackingadventurer 10 місяців тому

@@antduke2361 this could be the strangest comment I’ve seen to date 😂

@antduke2361 10 місяців тому

@@thebikepackingadventurer it means you are over 🤔

@thebikepackingadventurer 10 місяців тому

@@antduke2361 🤦🏻‍♂️😂👌🏻

@lilithcastle1743 10 місяців тому

Pfftt you were totally pretending to sleep 😝 Great video, thanks 🙏

@zaibcom 10 місяців тому

Nice

@grahamhaines9931 10 місяців тому

I just bought the Alpkit Numo sleeping mat which is very similar. Cost me less than £40. No TILT and not sure of the R rating either. Thanks for sharing.

@andysmythe8329 9 місяців тому

Numo is a nice comfortable mat but it doesn't have any insulation so won't be warm enough for winter

@wandering_not_lost 10 місяців тому

The pad looks good, decent price for a pad with R value 4.8 which should be warm enough here in the UK. I thought it looked quite bulky when deflated and in it's bag, I expected it to be smaller, must be the insulation material inside the baffles making it bulky. When my current Exped pad reaches the end of it's life I'll probably try the RAB.

@PaulMessner 10 місяців тому

I've been testing the UL version for 2024. It's much smaller and just has double tilt insulation

@PenryMMJ 10 місяців тому

It's an interesting idea, and Rab do make some great kit. Hopefully that means it will do what it says rather than just being marketing. I don't want my bed to suddenly tilt though. They need to work on that name.

@ryand141 10 місяців тому

If it doesn't even keep you warm at just above freezing, then I wouldn't say it's a good bit of kit, for the price you're paying..

@Ikreisrond 9 місяців тому

@@ryand141 The mention of just above 0º was concerning the Rab Mythic Ultra 180 sleeping bag. Well, no wonder. There's only 180 grams of down in it! They've got a 360 grams version of that as well though. Much warmer. In the end, no matter how many TILT or reflective stuff you use, reflective doesn't INSULATE. You need more grams of insulation for that. Regarding R-value of mattresses: every manufacturer may test differently. So those values are basically useless across manufacturers. Within one manufacturers' line of mattresses, it helps of course to compare the various offerings. As said by Paul, this mattress should suffice for the UK. Mind you, the UK can have weather found in (ant)arctic areas (Peak district, Highlands, Cairngorms). So if a British person says it should suffice for the UK, you can bet it's warm.

@chriscjjones8182 10 місяців тому

Looks pretty cool but price is everything these days. Still more than happy with my Trekology UL50. Very comfortable and warm enough with a closed cell foam mat under. The non slip pattern though, that's something all manufacturers should adopt

@waynus2021 10 місяців тому

it`ll leak soon , mark my words

@Tom-eq6vo 10 місяців тому

Hopefully they consider doing a wide and long version, Rab has become one of my favourite brands.

@grelumbass 10 місяців тому

They do a LW version

@waynus2021 10 місяців тому

i`ve just googled the matt and a LW version is available , 127 quid at the moment

@benpalmer4452 10 місяців тому

Just checked Rab for that mythica 180 as it looks ace.. £570!!! Jeezzz

@PaulMessner 10 місяців тому

Its crazy. There comes a point where that bit of extra performance or weight saving just isn't worth the money. The mythic ultra bag is the perfect example. If you're an elite performance athlete that every gram counts then that's the only case to buy one I'd think

@benpalmer4452 10 місяців тому

@@PaulMessnerYeah, I make you right Paul. For a summer, really small packable bag I’d be more looking at the Sea to Summit Spark II. Less than half that price.. it’s lovely piece of kit though. I’ll put it on the same list as one of the many Hilebergs I fancy but will never own 😂

@Gordonafloat 10 місяців тому

The amazon link shows the bigger mat to be exactly the same 63.5 cm wide but it is a little longer. update:-The Rab link does show a difference in width.

@Davefacestation 10 місяців тому

Love the 180, it's so compactable but I don't like the mummy bags and I can never find one that's going to do all year round in the UK and compact nicely.

@ryand141 10 місяців тому

If you layer this bag with a a bivvy. Don't think you'll be cold in any temp in winter in UK.

@Ikreisrond 9 місяців тому

How about a 360 with a Cumulus Roamer 150 quilt added for the coldest moments? You can use that quilt for the summer, evenings and the mornings as well.

@laurac976 10 місяців тому

Adding this to my ever growing list of things to buy 😂

@grimlightwildoutdoors 10 місяців тому

There other pads that out perform that sleeping pad on price, weight, build quality and r value there is a very well known r5.8 out there that’s wiping the floor with all other pads including the thermarest. I’ve been using it for a while and it’s going to turn the market on its head 👍❤️

@PaulMessner 10 місяців тому

It wipes the floor with thermarest? What pad is it?

@grimlightwildoutdoors 10 місяців тому

@@PaulMessner new NatureHike r5.8 pad it matches the thermarest pads on build quality, warmth but packs smaller and is lighter and a lot cheaper and it’s r rating certified. Can get this pad for around £100 I have the longer version it’s the only pad I use now when floor dwelling got rid most of my other pads including my thermarest pad.

@Ikreisrond 9 місяців тому

@@grimlightwildoutdoors R-ratings are measured differently across manufacturers. It's no comparison based on facts. Experience with various pads is more valuable in this regard. Besides, Naturehike is a Chinese brand if I'm right? (Too bad Rab manufactures their pads in China as well. But at least the rest is based in Europe, therefore supporting European values.)

@grimlightwildoutdoors 9 місяців тому

@@Ikreisrond certified to the same test standard as therma rest, I’ve had thermarest pads and this nature hike pad is as warm as the xtherm. Which I’ve compared it with and which my friends have changed from. I tarp camp all year round so my pads been well tested and so far the best sleeping pad I’ve had and I’ve had a few over the years including thermarest, big agness, sea to summit, static v and others.

@TheBridget1953 9 місяців тому

Hi Paul What sleeping bag and sleeping pad would you recommend .I can't afford the most expensive but I'm willing to spend a fair amount to have a good night's sleep

@duncanwalker4770 10 місяців тому

I got the 5.5 and cannot fault it.

@norcothesingingcyclist9129 10 місяців тому

Exped do a very similar pad I’ve had it for a good 5 years

@bernardscott1783 10 місяців тому

The price is the deal breaker.

@robintemmink2143 10 місяців тому

Hopefully RAB will produce a rectangular wide version of their mats too. If they do, i'll buy one straightaway, but am no fan of these tapered mummy mats.

@klammi85 10 місяців тому

That looks like my Exped Ultra with different colour😅

@DJunclepaul2nd 10 місяців тому

Great price but then long wide will be more and i couldnt sleep on any regular pad

@timwright5466 10 місяців тому

A 6.99 lilo works for me available everywhere 😂

@jamesdack2003 10 місяців тому

Great review Paul. I was just about to go with a Big Agnes Rapid SL but now you’ve thrown the Rab into the mix 😂 Which would you go with?

@PaulMessner 10 місяців тому

I’ve not used the big Agnes but I’ve heard many good things about their comfort. Tom Heaney did a great video on the big Agnes

@thomasshortall2028 10 місяців тому

James get the big agnes you won't regret it I promise you. 👌

@antduke2361 10 місяців тому

Rapide is great pad I love mine

@lynchetts 10 місяців тому

As you say it looks very much like an Exped mat

@theandybchannel.1819 10 місяців тому

Not worried about lightning when camping? 😊

@jlockwood131 10 місяців тому

I was a bit disappointed by how bulky and heavy the new range of Rab 'ultralight' sleeping mats are - the xlite is more expensive but it also packs down much smaller and is quite a lot lighter! (and as you say... the reflective insulation tech has been around for 10+ years in thermarest and other pads). I don't think the new Rab pads are bad at all, but I think the price point probably reflects (pun not intended) where they sit in the market in terms of specs.

@PaulMessner 10 місяців тому

I guess that's why you pay the very top price for the thermarest. There becomes a point where you can pay a lot more for a few grams less. It's the same with tents, jackets, bikes and more.

@jlockwood131 10 місяців тому

@@PaulMessner Yeah agreed, and the same with Rab sleeping bags too!

@kevst885 10 місяців тому

Hi Paul can’t find the rab sleeping bag for less £350 ish , can you tell me where you got your rab sleeping bag from please .. has I don’t want to pay the earth for one thank you

@Ikreisrond 9 місяців тому

Get a Sea To Summit Spark or Flame instead (depending on your height).

@ipedros7 10 місяців тому

when lying on it looks like a lilo... :D

@robthesamplist 10 місяців тому

Pretending to be asleep 😂

@glidezilla 10 місяців тому

£125 for a LI Lo made in China, put that towards a decent down-filled dos bag and, a cheap air mattress, and you will be much warmer.

@blackiesmisadventures3413 10 місяців тому

Made in China 🇨🇳 probably for peanuts 🥜 Sold to us for 10x the cost to make 🤷🏻 it’s the technology I suppose.

@platypushatstand 10 місяців тому

Rab website says the LW weighs 810gms, that’s 300gms more than the regular, oh and the affiliate link price is £138 not £125 😮

@prawnfather 10 місяців тому

More like 920gms - I just weighed mine. However, that does include the carry bag and inflation pump and the repair kit...

@eddyarundale1566 10 місяців тому

👋🏻

@phil.clarke 10 місяців тому

Interesting - I used a metal infused sleeping bag in the early 90s, bought for use in the alpine huts when I was living in Germany. A bit heavier than this one and not as good as advertised - have Rab made the technology work?

@alangauld6079 10 місяців тому

I had a metal bag back about then too, my biggest problem was I found the material quite noisy and it disturbed my sleep. And for the weight, I couldn't honestly say it was better than down! I'm curious about how the Rab compares.

@Ikreisrond 9 місяців тому

Nowadays they use a yarn to thread the metal into the fabric. No separate complete fabrics but yarns instead.

@NL-35 10 місяців тому

My thermarest is exploded and after 5 weeks still no answer from the customer "service" people please don't buy thermarest! And I'm on a long bike travel so it's fucked up.

@chrishamilton2527 10 місяців тому

Paul, are you receiving compensation, in any format, from RAB? I’ve noticed your endless and frequent glowing endorsement of their products. I agree some are very good products but it’s a constant deluge of RAB, RAB, RAB.