I know! But this guy may have got her another time…I’ve only just started watching but this freak was probably a prowler and may have come across her again when she was alone. The dad must feel terrible though, I really can’t imagine.

I hope he has reminded himself often enough that he couldn't possibly have gone running with her that day. It's impossible to walk to the bathroom without significant difficulty and pain when those back attacks happen, and that simple thing takes forever to do. Not that I think it would help him get rid of the guilt all together, but repetitious reminders can help ease the guilt a little bit over time. An absolute nightmare!

The guy wouldn't make it to the courthouse.

Well, he does have a stupid accent right?

The only reason he should feel guilty, is if he had something to do with his daughters murder, but he didn't I hope he forgives himself for not being there, with his daughter...

I know! I was pleasantly surprised they didn't try to censor her speech.

​@@joebauers3746 😊

@@joebauers3746.. it would be nice but the way the culture in the west is now it’s like we live in opposite world.

It was crude and vulgar. She embarrassed her daughter's memory with her uncouth mouth. A shame that you're no better.

​@@kellyclassen3770sad commentary on your morals and "dignity".

But it’s really not about sexual gratification. It’s about power. They want to control and own that person. They want to punish the victim by proxy for some past slight they felt from them or someone else.

​@@JennarationXyea you're right....but it's still only a momentary gratification

It is not about sexual gratification. It is about power and rage and control. 💔

Humans are animals after all bro. Animals do this in the wild all the time.

Sex, money and power... the driving forces for crime..

Shows you how ill mannered and badly brought up and un educated the average American is. She doesn't even realise that she is pathetic herself addressing the killer with facts unproven. I understand her anger and grief, but her language is appalling not to mention the accent from down town Nioowe Yioark. Just north of a Red Neck there. But only just. LOL.

maybe he payed the black to do it???

⁠@@jasonvoorhees5640 you must be fun at parties.

Just trying to imagine being in his shoes hurts too much. This is the worst case scenario, ultimate nightmare for any father. It's irreparable damage to the soul. I hope that his family are able to help him carry this cross, because I know he's feeling broken inside.

Eh, I doubt society lost much.

​@@gomahklawm4446real edgy buddy, you'll grow out of it one day.

Its not bullshit though is it? Its like rubbing yourself in blood then jumping in shark infested waters and acting shocked when you get bitten.

Those people are r@pists that say she was asking for it because that's exactly how they think.

​@@roykropper2239So you're saying if you're driving a Beamer or a Mercedes then you're asking to get carjacked or robbed? And you deserve it yeah that's your logic.

Oh stop. The few out there are far from the majority smh

Thats.....a terrible take​@@roykropper2239

The cell phone pinging (he lived close by) and the Google history (was it after he had his DNA taken?) would mean nothing to me normally, but combined with the next-day hospital visit it really does start to feel less like a coincidence...

Trust me, some of us be googling rando stuffs that would make a jury send you to the gallows in a heartbeat

@@golderp oh absolutely, but how many of us are also going to the hospital to get tooth fragments removed from our hands the day after a girl was beaten so hard her teeth chipped? it's not conclusive but it does make you wonder

@@CantTellYouDidn't he say they dug the girl's tooth out of his arm? With a detail like that, the only way I could believe that he was not the murderer is if he tried to kill her, she got away, and then someone else actually finished the job, in which case he's not innocent at all.

​@@raizeline they didn't say they removed tooth fragments. When interviewed later, the doctor said it could have been tooth fragments. Nothing was ever tested or confirmed and it's not like he looked closely at the time he treated him because at that time, this guy wasn't connected to the murder at all. The doctor probably hadn't even heard about it at that point. You know what else can pass for fragments of teeth? Gravel. What I'm wondering is how did he beat her so hard that her teeth were broken and her face all busted up but still was able to use his hand enough to strangle her. Because it almost seems like it can't be both. If someone beat her like was des robed, I have serious doubts about their ability to then use that same hand to strangle the woman, which takes both hands and a lot of strength, especially if they're fighting, which she was.

Exactly.

Yes, but someone close to him can very easily manipulate him into taking the fall while they stay in the shadows or while they collect that reward. Sad, but it happens.

​@@vageta9281984How'd his DNA get under her fingernails? And how'd her TOOTH get in his hand?🙄🙄🤦

they are generally intellectually stunted anyway, with the majority of the population having an iq of 85 or lower. its pretty obvious why excuses like a 'learning disability', which is essentially low impulse control, at scale is a very poor idea.

@afonphoenix16 again, manipulation is real. Sadly, the mentally handicapped can be convinced to do almost anything because some of them lack reasoning and won't understand what or why they are told to do something or what's being done to them.

And violated

The victim of an African savage beast with a black heart!!

And the guilt he might feel for not going with her that night. Jfc

Being a man, I could never imagine what the poor dad went through when he found her.

I think finding anyone u love so deeply would be traumatic. But yes, in a state like that knowing what they must have gone through would intensify that trauma significantly 😢

Exactly! Thank you for saying it. I find it disgusting, all the judgements made on mom. She spoke real and from her heart, from a place of pure pain and anguish, I'm sure. How dare anyone not in her shoes judge her language? I think it was mild given the circumstances.

Who was judging? All I see is comments commending her lol

Really, really good comment

I feel absolutely horrible for the father. As a father myself I would be playing the what if game for the rest of my days. It is bad enough that he has to live with that guilt, but to have been the one who found her on top of everything else.... I just can't even imagine the pain he is in!

So why are you judging the killer? He probably had a harder life than the girl he killed. So why no pity for him? Don't judge.

Too many times.

Way too many

No one knows anyone. I learned from not having much any family. 47 years and all I've seen is that its strangers you can find comfort in more than people you think you know.

@@Lena-so2lq That can be true, and yes, blood is thicker than water and also messier, yet, true family and friends are a bond that is priceless. Godspeed.

I remember the day this happened. Absolutely sickening. I feel so much for her dad especially.

Likewise

He's not more guilty than his daughter who forgot to put on some cloths. No, I'm not victim blaming. None of them is to be blamed. However, if you walk around naked, you will draw unwanted attention.

@@verabolton Dude, the guy was a predator. She drew attention by being alone. It would not have mattered if she had been dressed like a nun. Some people just have a compulsion to rape/kill.

@@enaitat What's your point? Women should not walk around naked, that's my point. I'm a woman and I'm disgusted by other women thinking it's OK to walk around wearing nickers and a bra. She was allegedly nervous to go for a run alone. But she wasn't nervous to go naked?! Yes, predators will attack no matter what. Still, women should dress properly.

@@verabolton anyone who has the want to rape/kill a woman isn't doing it because she is wearing the clothes she is wearing. she could've been completely covered and he still would've done the same when the opportunity arose because she was alone and it was convenient for him. saying "no im not victim blaming" doesn't change the fact you're blaming the victim.

And it’s always THEM as the perpetrators

God allows evil. Why? Because of many things we don't have the ability to fully understand but one reason is that if He eliminated all evil, humans would not have free will. God will not force love on us, we have to choose to accept it or not.

@@smartyjonez5470keep that racism off this channel take that somewhere else. Evil exist in all races. DO BETTER

Them who?​@@smartyjonez5470

There's a show called Final Moments and you are exactly right

The DNA under her fingernails is all I need to know he is guilty. I was a molecular biologist, and all I did was work with DNA. There is no controversy behind DNA testing, unless the cops changed the samples, which in this case, seems highly unlikely. All the other circumstantial evidence that you mentioned is the cherry on top. Guilty!

Being in the area means nothing if he lives nearby and cops can and DO coerced people into confessing ESPECIALLY an autistic person like this guy.

​@@denisedevoto5703the only damaging evidence is dna which proves without a doubt he did it. Cell phone pings can be up to 7 miles away and police can easily make a mentally deficient person confess to a crime they didn't commit.

​@@denisedevoto5703 Mike did say they used a highly controversial DNA test kit to get quick results. 🤔

Only crazy people would think they can get away with murder. They gonna catch you eventually and unless your family can afford the payoff.....a lot of that goes on here in FL..

❤💔 So sorry your dear friend was taken away from all who loved her - and so senselessly and shockingly. I remember hearing of this when it happened. She clearly was making significant valuable contributions to the world, and deserved to live a long, happy life.

I'm so very sorry for your, and all her loved ones, pain. She seemed like a wonderful woman that was trying to make a difference in the world. I hope your grief lessens over time, even though it won't disappear completely, and that you keep your fond memories with her alive ❤❤❤

Sometimes we forget the real people behind these stories. Thank you for reminding us. I’m so sorry for your loss.

♥️ from 🇸🇪

Indeed yes what an absolutely appealing case this is! 🙏☘️

No parent should outlive their child either 😕

​@@DaveSCameron I... I hope you meant appalling 💀

Don’t live near certain groups.

It's horrible

As a mom, I feel the same. I don't know how these parents go on. 😢

Same. 100%.

yes bc if she were racist, he wouldnt have grabbed her by surprise and beat the crap out of her...he wouldve just walked away. P.S.... your psychopothy is showing@@thebeacon2

@@thebeacon2 thisbkindnofnlogic would likely get more people hurt. These kinds of crimes are committed by all kinds of guys. Being racists just puts false blinders on you. Really people need to learn to differentiate between regular non-threatening people (which can be people of any color) and between sketchy people up to no good (also not exclusive to skin color).

​@@thebeacon2Please, keep your disgusting & uneducated beliefs to yourself. 🤥🤢🤮

And for what? Just to use her body for his own sick pleasure and then discard her like garbage? A whole human being ripped away from the world for nothing. It’s heartbreaking 😢

@@GirlieCarolinas never trust a dark sk!nned person. never relax around them

The mother's anger is completely understandable and justified. The pain she feels is excruciating. The murder of a loved one is extremely difficult to deal with.

I totally agree. there is some other dickless piece of shii in the comments above saying her mom is insufferable and put on an embarrassing display. he must be a predator too if a grieving mother's speech to her child's murderer offends him!!

Absolutely!! 😢

She had me at "dickless"

Her speech was epic 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙏🏿❤️

The jumping of her family when the verdict was read makes my stomach turn. They seem to be full of hatred 🥺

They should have hatre for the guy. You have made some extremely stupid comments@@verabolton

@@verabolton bro the dude just killed their family member id jump for justice too what's wrong with u.. commenting on everyone's comments sticking up for this scum bag u his brother or something.

@@verabolton Wow. A third stupid comment from you. You're on a roll.

@@rainman6090 Online stalker detected 🧐

I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't even imagine how horrible that must have been.

@@TobyMax853 Kind words from kind people, mean more than anyone could imagine. Thank you.

So sorry for your loss. It’s not your fault.

I'm so sorry for your loss, sir

I'm so sorry. Bless you, friend. 💔

yeah she was some force to be reckoned with to be taken down by such a weak and puny coward 🤣

@@NotAnAmericanwhat the…

​@haleymae1297 it's not exactly a pleasant thing to say but it is true.

​@@michaelmonahan9170then why fuckin say it? people just blurt out whatever stupid thought pops in their head these days.

@kkei09 just because something isn't pleasant doesn't change the fact it's true. I think we could do with a whole lot more truth instead of screwing around with all these false niceties and putting up with idiots who spout nonsense (before you jump to conclusions, not calling anyone in this case an idiot).

Far from eloquent.

She's not eloquent, she's vulgar. That's not how you honor your child.

@@user-gj1me4mf5c "Eloquent: Clearly expressing or indicating something". Are you slow? Because it's pretty damn clear what she was expressing with her speech, that's quite literally the definition of eloquent.

Do you also speak with such a stupid accent?

​@@annap4016sure but never underestimate the power of a well crafted statement

Do you think it's impossible for a father to murder his daughter? 🤔

@@verabolton not that it's impossible for a father to have murdered a daughter but that its cruel to accuse a man of that without a shred of evidence when hes already suffering with grief... he is already in enough pain and now peoplee are saying he did it with no reasoning or proof?

@@veraboltonthis is the most inane and brain dead way to respond to that comment. Like your effort at manipulating and twisting their statement is so blatant it’s actually quite funny

Typical BLM supporters. Any black person accused of anything is always innocent. Disgusting. Why do they have wildly higher violent crime rates than any other group?

@@verabolton Between this and the "naked" comment, you've really put on a display of stupidity today.

JUST the DNA.

😂 like seriously¿ jumping into conclusions based on little evidence is 🚩

THAT’s a problem with YOU, DUMBBELL!!!!

And Chris Watts’ did

Ted Bundy's mom also pretended to be his older sister for his entire childhood. He was raised believing his grandma was his mother. His mom lying to him is probably a significant factor in his hatred of women.

Look at that kids face when he comes out of the police station. He didn't understand what was going on

@@MumaBooyea that made me extremely uncomfortable. He had no idea.

Anyone is capable given the perfect conditions/circumstances 🤷‍♀️ never forget that 😟

I tell ya M,it's life altering and can make her father very ill without REAL support,counseling,and possibly a support group/mixed (Male and Female)who'm have suffered a murderous loss,Strength in numbers,only time I guess/suppose,only time

Truly. I'm sure his family members sent that out.

@@ae2948 Either that or a supporter of his or his lawyer.

BLM ✊🏿 Or innocence fraud campaign again. Trying to free another murderer

It's surprisingly common in cases like this. To the point where people are starting to say black on black crime is actually white people wearing silicon masks to look like black people and attack them. It sounds insane but there's actually quite a few black people who believe it, look it up, there's lots of them making videos on youtube.

Turning into a race issue is a disservice to everyone.

@@hiddxnlxavxs3968 exactly- men. stay away from men at all costs

@@hiddxnlxavxs3968It’s impossible sometimes. I wish she had had something on her, even a nail file or kubaton.

@@hiddxnlxavxs3968what demographic are you talking about?

​@@maddieb.4282Seeing as they posted "usual suspects" elsewhere, it's pretty clear what they're about.

​@@maddieb.4282 the Italian one.

the old familiar "Ma baby didntdonuffin!

😢😢😢

Tc

Yeah dad probably blamed himself till this day for not and why not jogging with her that day, he also found her, gosh these parents that got a murdered child I can't and never know how they feel, so sad

Hope you’re okay xo

Oooh you can’t because it hits close to hoooome oooh how saaad

Even serial killers were kids and care free. Even this killer. Sooo what’s your point?

@@ThomasVega-et9ce although you are correct, its a shame you are too stupid to understand my point. Find something better to do than make replies for the sake of getting noticed

​@@ThomasVega-et9ce they said pictures of *victims*.

@@kristinwojtowich8902 same thing

​@ThomasVega-et9ce how is a picture of the victim & a picture of the killer the same thing ? .... I mean they'd both be pictures to be fair but 2 different people that played 2 different roles in this act ... victim & killer So in fact it isn't the same thing 🤷‍♂️

Well duh bro some people that have committed horrific crimes have always for the most part been just the average person where you wouldn't expect nothing like that from them so of course people are going to say they're kind and gentle people if that's the vibe that you got from them you can only go off of your own personal experiences so when they commit a horrific crime it is shocking

@dyoung12b cringe

Well ya.. The killers family and friends don't see that side most of the time.... So It would make sense

And the victims are usually "bubbly" with amazing smiles.

Well they are 90% of the time. It's just that 10% of the time is truly horrifying.

i live in Woodhaven!

Howard Beach is also known for racism.

@@sammygirl6910 I would say was, definitely more diverse now ,but , yes.

@@sammygirl6910 Most Italian Americans are. but it's not like a hate thing. it's more like a "stick your kind" thing. I grew up just like this family.

Dido that. I'm still here

I agree. Only the water part of his confession doesn't add up.

It's typical to pull race card in 2024 when ur a minority perp and victim is white. When you pull race, all the activist groups spring into action to throw mud on the victims and the case, regardless of facts

@@user-rd6dh4hq1j sure, I mean he's special, he didn't have a perfect recollection, doesn't even remotely begin to disprove all of the smoking gun evidence against him. I mean real mic drop stuff. The fact that anyone convinces themselves that monster is innocent infuriates me.

​@@user-rd6dh4hq1j He could have gotten multiple crimes confused? When he thought they mentioned something about a spillway he pushed himself back in the chair and it made him anxious and angry. This may not be his first crime like this. If you put them in water there wouldn't be much DNA if any left.

The defence went to the Oj playbook, I also think the police should look in to who wrote that letter, my guess would be either one of Chanel's family or an activist group who think he's innocent.

That's a Mama bear using all her strength to turn absolute despair into anger and vengeance for justice. Her speech was one of the realest I've ever seen.

her accent... yuck

And she was holding back, too. At 9:35, you can hear the father in the background echoing her words. I feel for them. Cant imagine what theyre going through right now.

@@AsterSea I know, truly hard to comprehend the pain and shock they are experiencing. She held herself together amazingly.

Ima rain on your parade, but F this mindset. If cussing out evil in anger is your definition of "beauty" then you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself, Ms Inquisitor. Why am I even saying that? Well there's a famous quote Im probably gonna butcher: _"Beware, those who fight monsters. For when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back"_ *Strong?* Sure. *Admirable?* Yeah. *A great rallying cry?* Absolutely. There are a _thousand good words_ you could possibly say about her speech - - but "beautiful" is just about the worst pick available. Deny it or hate me, if you really have to - don't care. I had to say this, now have a good day.

@@Magepure6749 what?! CLEARLY I WAS JOKING. Her words did bring a tear to my eye but because I felt her deep gutted pain, not because it was a beautiful moment. Her words made me feel intense pain so I can’t imagine what she’s feeling. How did you miss that?! Imma rain on your parade and f your mindset right back because what?

Exactly. That’s definitely not the case.

Who? Who likes to assume that. I think it's the opposite.

Yup. Meanwhile, crime statistics show otherwise

And taken out by a guy that would be a succubus on society. So senseless.

​@@oldhickory4686I agree except I thought it would be an incubus, but I could be wrong.

LET ‘em watch Sesame Street!

@@traybern is Sesame Street still on television? I loved SS 🥰 I still count ~ Count Dracula style Ahh ah Ahh 😅

- Cell tower data is very very tricky to determine. Since which tower your phone pings is not necessarily the closest one, that depends on a lot of factors. Usually, when this evidence is introduced, a lot of towers have been pinged and there's a clear path you can draw on the map that the suspect traversed, before, during and after the murder. There's no such path in this case, just three pings around the same area before the murders (again, that could've come from much further) and that's it. It's not compelling evidence. - There's no report on his mother saying that other than a wikipedia sentence, and there's NO source linked to that quote. If you have an actual link to a verified source on this, show me. Besides, this is extremely circumstantial evidence, if he said he was mugged, there's no way to determine what the truth is. - This one's a real kicker, so much misinformation about it. First of all people go to the hospital on days that other people get murdered, does that mean every other hospital visitor was suspect? It wasn't actually an "injury", this was said by a doctor who DID NOT meet Lewis and DID NOT examine his hand. The actual doctor that examined him: “Head atraumatic, neck supple. No other injury” besides a “single superficial laceration” to Lewis’ hand". That's it, that's ALL they found, no cuts or fingernail trails on his face which the police suspected since the victim scratched for her life. The bs story about a chipped tooth that was supposedly found in his hand?, this was a wild "hunch" added by the detectives on this case, no factual evidence. The doctor simply said "a foreign object", and made no determination what it was. It could've literally been anything, like a miniscule twig. - He didn't google the case, detectives found cached thumbnails of all kinds of news items, can you believe it, fucking cached thumbnails? Do you know how much information your phone caches if you just visit any website? If I go to a sports section on a news website and a headline with a thumbnail of this case is on there, it's recorded. It doesn't mean I actively searched for it or even read it. Don't take my word for it, take the detectives word on it: “You can't testify that Karina Vetrano's name was searched, correct?” Burke asked Rivera, who took a pregnant pause to review his notes. “That is correct,” Rivera replied. What kind of bullshit evidence is that? I would add, even IF he did search for it, it's a famous case, everybody's talking about it. That's weak fcking evidence. Then we come to the holy grail of DNA, because this supposedly ties everything together. Wow, did they drop some stinkers in that one. You should read the nation dot com article on this case, it will blow your mind on how corrupt the detectives have been in collecting, analyzing and withholding the evidence from cross examination. This is not a wild conspiracy theory, multiple convictions have already been overturned over the years. Here's a sneak peek: "Barry Brown recently resigned from the NYPD after he was caught hiding exonerating evidence in a different murder case..." This whole case stinks. The kid doesn't even look like a murderer, he has this permanent childlike expression on his face, and absolutely NO history of violence. How does that add up? I can almost guarantee, this kid is going to be freed one day, even if he IS guilty. Because with all the corrupt shit they pulled, he'll just be released on the basis of a technicality.

​@@simionix420🤡

@@simionix420I would bet my life that you’re black. And also delusional

Pure anger?😂 She sounded scripted and robotic!

@@ironicly__iconicwell she’s in trauma having her daughter not just dead but murdered 8n the most brutal way sooo. If she gave an incredibly dramatic impassioned articulate speech people still have an issue with that. Cut some slack maybe

you think this is unfortunate…REALLY….What kind of person are you…You need therapy…..

@@ironicly__iconic Who asked?

WOW. Obviously she pre-wrote it. I'm sorry her grief failed to impress YOUR lofty ass.🤦🤦🙄​@@ironicly__iconic

Personally, I think she showed restraint.

Could've not could of, could of is nonsense

​@@galanta3534it could've been a voice to text error? Not a primary language for the person commenting? Someone who hasn't learned contractions, but likes prepositions?😉

​@@miaknig3130 there's plenty of native speakers making that mistake.

@@brimstoneonsteam9069 I realize that, and it isn't logical to say "of" but "nonsense"sounds a bit condescending. I've met people who were deprived of any real schooling and they want to learn but shouldn't be apprehensive. Think of the Turpin kids and many who are "homeschooled", it isn't their fault that the parents destroyed their education.

Agree completely.

There is no doubt. For all the reasons you just listed. The dissenting arguments are weak. An anonymous letter with no attribution, weak accusations of confession coaching, and minor details wrong in his confession(which can be attributed to his low mental capacity), The evidence against Chanel is damning and overwhelming. He is guilty. The truth is there's an unfortunate trend in modern American culture in which incidents where black criminals are involved, race comes before evidence. Americans feel compelled to defend black criminals, no matter how damning the evidence is, when it's a matter of black vs non-black. It's mostly African American culture that does this, but there's a large section of gullible whites that also buy into this mindset due to white guilt. It's the same reason OJ Simpson was and still is presumed innocent by many despite his overwhelming obvious guilt. It is biased in the extreme to assume his innocence based on his race. Mike is unfortunately one of those white people that means well, but is doing the exact wrong thing. You can find this same trend on all of Mike's videos involving black criminals with non-black victims. AJ Armstrong, David Camm, Jill Halliburton-Su..on and on. He always presents these stories in such a lopsided way where obviously guilty criminals are given the EXTREME benefit of the doubt that they've been falsely accused, no matter how flimsy it is. Often to the point of him leaving out extremely damning details in how he presents the story. You can even read the comments that the majority of his audience comes away from the video believing in their innocence. It's genuinely sad that people have become full blown biased in the opposite direction out of some misguided belief that they're "doing the right thing".

Because there is no fact or proof to what foreign body was removed from his hand. Hospitals document, everything they document when things like that happen. Cops have framed people before with DNA. How they got his DNA was super suspicious. He is very clearly being coerced during the interview and has no accurate story or telling of what is happening to her that day.

His sister was SMILING while saying "he would never do that" etc... seems like duping delight to me.

If they were doing things on the up and up, why wouldn't they use the state's lab or at least a licensed one? Why use an out of state, unlicensed lab that uses methods so controversial (aka- they ended up being wrong enough times people started getting pissed)? And no, "tooth fragments" weren't removed from his hand. A doctor, who wasn't aware of the crime at the time he treated Chanel, later said there was a piece of something that could have been a tooth in his hand. Unless it was tested, it could have just as easily been gravel, if he actually was assaulted. Cell tower is bullsh*t- his phone and thousands of others hit on that tower. He lived RIGHT THERE and walked that neighborhood every day. I bet if you check the records, his phone hits on that tower a lot, depending on it's vicinity to his home. I'd also like to know the dates he was googling the stuff- was it before or after they started questioning him or came and asked for his DNA- the DNA that had to be sent to some shady lab to get tested. If he's actually guilty then yes, he definitely needs to be locked up for life. But I've seen a ton of interrogations and his "confession" did not sound like one. If I'm to vote for taking away someone's right to live free, I'd want to be completely sure. When cops and prosecutors hide evidence or use shady practices or outright fabricate crap to try to "prove" their case, they're the ones who screw themselves. Here's what I want to know- after hearing how bad she was actually beaten, how was he then still able to strangle her to death using his hands? I've seen plenty of guys break their hands doing a lot less damage in bar fights and whatnot and strangling someone takes time and a lot of strength, especially since we know she was fighting. When I heard that, I immediately thought there might be 2 people involved and this was before the "2 jacked up white guys" was even mentioned. If you're punching someone so hard you're actually breaking teeth, your hands are going to be cut to hell and swollen to sh*t, likely at least a few broken fingers. You're leaving a lot more than just a little DNA under her fingernails if you beat her, rape her and then strangle her. She'd be covered in drips of blood from that hand. And the swelling and pain would likely keep you from making a hard fist, never mind actually gripping her throat and squeezing for several minutes until she's dead. Their evidence was all kind of on the edge. But the evidence from the actual crime scene does not show the scenario they laid out. Like I said, if she was beaten like that then whoever did it bled somewhere and if they continued to attack her, including rape/sexual assault, then it would definitely be on her. Where's THAT evidence?

Don’t piss off mama bear!

@@dianemadigan3252 That was my first thought I have NEVER seen any other parent get on the news and just go at a POS like him I truly admire her strength 💪 and her poor dad 🙏 he found her I believe

Her family is full of hatred. I'm sorry for them for so many reasons...

@@veraboltonwouldn’t you feel hatred and anger too if your child was brutally murdered?

@@veraboltonbtw looking at your other comments you’re not only a bigot, prude, cruel, conspiracy theorist….. get off the internet and look at a sunset or something

Yeah, but he does have a stupid accent right?

@@mattolivier1835 who? why?

@@anjachan Rewatch the video. It's obvious. Who were YOU talking about? That will give you the answer!

@@mattolivier1835u are a horrible person. You focus on an accent on a man who lost his child? Your what’s wrong with the world now.

@@mattolivier1835 i dunno. didn't hear something weird.

Exactly what a high school DROPOUT would spew.

I think this applies to all humans 👍🏼

@Mastabeee This doesn't happen to males. Women don't wait in the weeds to pounce on and kill males.

​@@Mastabeee ur missing the point completely

Never put yourself on a pedestal. She was trying to be racist and paid for it.

What do u mean?

He has both going on I have worked with this population most likely autistic spectrum and this type usually take medication for behavior like clonidine/guanifxine and anti psychotic medication

Who cares?

@@helena3631autism? Please stop it. If you work with kids either ASD then you know they're harmless. Not all, but most. It's when they don't receive early intervention or they're put on medications like SSRI's that things don't turn out well. This thug had violent tendencies towards women since he was a kid. He wasn't autistic. Shame on you.

​@@helena3631I'mma get in trouble for mentioning this, as usual! Which is why I have to type back wards to try to fool yt. Yes I know that's supposed to be one word, too. Uoy Ebut hates me! There's a medication that cures ASD but it's been made lagelli.

⁠​⁠@@helena3631 guafacine is used in ODD for impulse control too though. Just saying.

I like how he went back to the 'old format' Floating head telling a story, no need for superfluous background ornamentation.

Which chapter?

Did they actually find it in his hand? Could it be tested?

What tooth? Who's him? There's other suspects it seems. So be more clear please. Also the foreign object wasn't confirmed to be a tooth if that's what you mean.

Bless her heart, I didn't know that could happen.

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It cant. Shes just making things up. @@melanieknisely5045

I'm a forensic interviewer auditor CEO and I say it was fair. My professional accurate and well thought out opinion means.more than yours...so there

my point exactly-they could have lost the case interviewing so badly. I did JIT Interviews(a method of interviewing children who may have been sexually abused) You ALWAYS get the person to tell the story, they FED him the story, you would be amazed how many people under stress will try and "please" the Interviewee by saying what they think you want to hear.

So you lived there and you didn't know they caught him? Of course not. He wasn't White. Sad but true.

I went jogging yesterday and broke my wrist. Definitely not murdered but exercise never ends well...

Exactly! A woman should be safe to do these types of things without having to worry about being harassed, assaulted or murdered but I am a woman and I would never go out for a walk/run alone. Unfortunately you never know who is around and what their intentions are. Karina went to a park which lessens the likelihood that there would be a lot of people there. Still to this day many women think they are safe. A false sense of security.

I doubt a murderer will care whether you're walking for exercise or transportation though. I do get it and you shouldn't be reckless, but if we stop doing anything that could lead to harm there's nothing left to do.

@@whaddyaa Definitely but she went to an isolated place to exercise. Would have been better to have gone to a more populated area to exercise or perhaps to a gym.

Bit sad living your life like that

Agreed. It takes like half an hour to research it and come to this conclusion.

I mean what.. -Was his own cell phone company lying for the cops too when they show his phone pinging at the exact time and location of the crime? Riiight, don't think so. That seals it for me after the fact that he confessed and went to the doctors the very next day with defensive wounds (and what appeared to be her chipped tooth in his hand)

Going off the video, I was skeptical about his guilt until the google searches and cell-phone ping. He seemed strange and slow in what we were shown (ie the slackjaw smile when he was being perp-walked), but those google searches are damning. I don't know anything else about the case.

The evidence is beyond overwhelming, it is utterly infuriating watching all these white liberals praying to their masters and taking his side(an actual monster), just to appease racial politics that never had any place being introduced.

@@randomnobody8770 I'm still skeptical. They claimed she bit hit hand or at least the tooth was in his hand and sexual assault was commited. Did they find her saliva in his wound or his DNA on her? I think it warrants a closer examination. The guy frequented the park often so the pinging is suspect but it isn't conclusive in my eyes. There needs to be no room for unreasonable doubt in this case and that wasn't established.

That guy hung around that park and even the neighborhoods adjacent. Too bad her path crossed his. It was broad daylight, sun still up, something like 5pm, and thought of as a safe area. Dad asked her not go without him. She was 30, he didn't forbid her.

Prejudiced people claim the police put his DNA under her nails.

I'm 100% certain Channel was the killer but DNA isn't perfect. There can be flaws in how it is collected , handled and tested. Case in point was a case in Germany where a fraudster was sought and after testing DNA collected with a standard Police issued kit, the profile was of a middle-aged E European female. This did NOT match any of the other evidence including witness testimony that was centred on a MALE. Turned out that the 'E European female' was a worker at the testing kit manufacturer who wasn't following correct factory procedure and had left her own DNA on HUNDREDS of testing kits.... this disrupted dozens of investigations as potentially ALL DNA collected using those kits was tainted...

if the mounties framed him ...