Dispatch from the Donbas & why the Russian Orthodox Church backs Putin | Ukraine: The Latest | Pod
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Рік томуDay 343.
Today, we continue our reporting from the ground in Donbas with Roland Oliphant, bring you diplomatic updates from across the world and discuss the role of the Russian Orthodox Church and its ties to the regime.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Host). @DJKnowles22 on Twitter.
Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on Twitter.
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on Twitter.
Roland Oliphant (Senior Foreign Correspondent). @RolandOliphant on Twitter.
With thanks to Olga Lautman, analyst and researcher and a Senior Fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis. @OlgaNYC1211 on Twitter.
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@Vonfleet Рік тому
I'm so glad to have found this resource on UKposts. I'm just an average middle class American from Southeastern Ohio but I can't quit thinking about what the people of Ukraine are going through everyday. I completely relate to Roland's comments and he shouldn't apologize for getting emotional. I am ashamed that the collective West did not rise up immediately and crush this Russian belligerence from the start. The comments regarding Hitler were completely appropriate. It's sad to imagine the lives that would have been saved if Hitler would have been met head on from the start especially while his military was still weak. What well meaning peace loving people can't seem to learn from history is that immediate and overwhelming force applied to unprovoked aggression could save more lives than it costs.
@SL-sd3sg Рік тому
Yes, we should have sat up in 2014.
@christinemarshall1366 Рік тому
I can't bear to hear the stories of these elderly people who shouldn't have to suffer like this at the end of their lives. I hate the Russians with a vengeance.
@Rod732 Рік тому
Same 😞😞😞
@cheriemorey4728 Рік тому
Yes it is very sad, but a good aspect is that they got to be elderly, which is not the case for a lot of younger Ukrainian people.
@hal7ter Рік тому
@@cheriemorey4728 How about the thousands of elderly Russians that the Azov Battalion has bombed out of their homes in the Donbass for the last ten years?
@deselby6669 Рік тому
@@hal7ter The AZOV battalion didn't exist 10 years ago.The Azov battalion was founded in 2014 to oppose the pro Russian forces that had illegally seized control of Ukrainian Donbas.
@cheriemorey4728 Рік тому
@@hal7ter that was Ukranian country wasn't it before the Russians invaded? NATO and America should have helped them then, like they are now.
@MrSandancer Рік тому
Looks like the Russians are going for operational targets like roads. Wonder if logistics is their weakness; given the fact that the preparation was for 3-4 days I may have a point. Also, a big shout for Poland as well as Finland and Baltic States. Definitely punching above their weight. Respect from UK.🇫🇴🇪🇺🇳🇿🇬🇧🇺🇸🏴🏴
@linmal2242 Рік тому
Yes indeed. Respect and cheers for Poland from AUS .
@clarkeorchard2304 Рік тому
Logistics from the railhead to the front is the weakness
@aajas Рік тому
Just like kirill and the orthodox church links to Russian intelligence - they did the same thing within Ukraine (because of course they did). There is the "Ukrainian Orthodox Church" which is loyal to Moscow, drawing up lists for the Russian police occupiers... totally different from the "Orthodox Church of Ukraine", faithful to Ukrainians It's pretty messed up to have to make that distinction, but war is war
@tvwatcher1883 Рік тому
-we need to take a close look at the russian unorthodox “church” and it’s operations in the world
@simonlee8889 Рік тому
It's called ROCOR and it's been used by the West for decades as part of the IO psyops against Russia at every opportunity... Do try to keep up.
@kevinnightingale1852 Рік тому
is it on tv?
@tvwatcher1883 Рік тому
@@kevinnightingale1852 i don’t just watch TV i also work, and i love when i get paid and i see my federal tax deduction, and i know that some of those tax dollars are going to neutralize russians -it puts a big smile on my face -FYI this Friday is a payday for me 😎
@jiefflerenard1228 Рік тому
What an amazing piece of information, brilliant, so much research, knowledge and work !
@elenagekker1739 Рік тому
BS of propaganda?
@theeffectiveprogressive Рік тому
I especially appreciate the insights provided by the guest. The information helps to add depth to the listener’s understanding of the wider situation. Mahalo
@CatalystD9 Рік тому
Heroyam Slava 🙏🇺🇦💙💛
@christopherreding4862 Рік тому
Really like this channel, the most neutral insights I have come across. What would improve it further would be a visual on the studio
@philipmarwood9327 Рік тому
This is not neutral. It merely promulgates the spin that msm is being forced feed us with. We are never told of Russia successes. Are we ever told of realistic Ukraine casualties? Reasonable sources suggest the've lost the equivalence of their original forces strength. Are we ever shown the videos their troops are sending home declaring despair, freezing, starving, diseased conditions, left to their own disappearing resources, with no help for their wounded?
@0Cico0 Рік тому
I agree with Roland. Few tanks after a year? Abrams another year until delivery? They should start training long ago. Are we really dedicated to help them win or not? Everyone is saying that Putin understand only the power, but we are afraid. No country should be allowed to do what Russia is doing in Ukraine, but because it is Russia... And some countries do not care, business as usual. African countries, what they have against Ukraine? They are independent for so many years, yet they still blame the West for colonialism. How they think Russia became so big, with friendly diplomacy?
@clarkeorchard2304 Рік тому
Totally. V frustrating
@gordonfrickers5592 Рік тому
A review of Russian history and recent events shows us a clear and consistent pattern of how Putin's Russians operate their propaganda, subversion and conduct their wars. The large majority of western leaders have not learned the lesson.
@hal7ter Рік тому
Ukraine had a huge army at the beginning. Had they honored the Minsk accords and declared neutrality they would still have a nation - a s it is, they do not have long. America and the West have no money, weapons or patience left.
@patrickgibbon7657 Рік тому
Brilliant insight as always. Thanks guys.
@CatalystD9 Рік тому
Bahkmut Holds 🙏💙💛🇺🇦🌻
@Niall101a Рік тому
Not for long
@ashcarrier6606 Рік тому
Within the last decade there seemed to be an impetus to rehabilitate the WW2 image of the Red Army as one that DID fight with tactical and operational flexibilty and adaptation, rather than Orc-like, dumb frontal assaults and rigid dogma. There seemed to be an idea the German officers who survived the war and created the West's understanding of that front were being unfairly dismissive of the Russians. After the last year, I'm thinking the German assessment was probably right.
@linmal2242 Рік тому
Yes, I would believe the Germans than any alternative view.
@matthewrussell8590 Рік тому
My understanding (through reading) is that the red army emerged to be one of the greatest armies of all time a few years after operation barbarossa. This is the narrative spun by modern historians and one that I have believed. I've always found the Eastern front much more Interesting than the western front. I'd love to know the truth
@williammorris584 Рік тому
Read Glantz. It was a bit of both, an army with thousands of penal battalions as well as the Fifth Guards Tank Army and skilled predecessors of Spetsnaz. But above all, it was an artillery army, an artillery army with lots and lots of tanks.
@simonlee8889 Рік тому
@@williammorris584 And that is what is needed over such a vast terrain. And that is what Russia has. Plus total control of the air and extremely modern effective missiles for long range targeting. And this is why they are winning at a pace and a price to suit them. All this plucky Ukraine reporting is obscene, frankly.
@matthewrussell8590 Рік тому
@@simonlee8889 those that take MSM and podcast such as these as complete truth are going to be sorely disappointed. I've called this podcast out plenty of times in the past for It's one sided journalism and ommiting certain truths. I still listen several times a week. its just a shame they went down the propagandist route.
@maxsuicide4767 Рік тому
58:00 - yup. 20 years of the warning signs appearing with increasing regularity. Little action taken. In fact, outright wilful ignorance on the part of many western nations (hi Germany) until we get so deep in a hole it becomes very painful to climb out of it. The government are still resistant to the idea of boosting the defence budget that their creative accounting has hidden further cuts on this past decade. We should be almost on a war footing to support this effort, not complaining about domestic 'wokeism' and all that bollocks here at home.
@clarkeorchard2304 Рік тому
I agree. I would also add that many people are still ignorant of what will be required. It's simply not enough and slow. The quicker we pull out finger out the better.
@simonlee8889 Рік тому
No, 20 years of reneging on agreements and reckless unipolar dismantlement of arms agreement - plus the financialisation and de-industrialisation of all western economies - oh and let's not forget the continued venal disingenuous failure of the MIC to develop and produce latest generation weapons that are actually needed and that actually work... (we'll draw a discreet veil over all the vile warmongering and destructive bombing and the awful toll in human life, shall we?) Now we complain because the Russians saw this all coming and actually developed armaments that are much better than ours, that do work, that they can produce efficiently in the required quantity when needed and don't break the bank..) But yeah! We have LBGTWXYZ etc etc troops. Ura!
@davidpenn1123 Рік тому
Invaluable coverage. Never miss an episode!
@philipmarwood9327 Рік тому
Yeah. Watch out for all the usual spin though. They can't help it, same as all the msm
@Edo9River Рік тому
I would be interested in a collective piece on the volunteers😊😊😊😊😊
@SL-sd3sg Рік тому
There are many on YT.
@CatalystD9 Рік тому
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 🙏💙💛
@OleHippy Рік тому
This broadcast is the gold standard for thoughtful electronic journalism.
@liberty_and_justice67 Рік тому
The Russian church advocating war and genocide is not surprising. Brutality is integral to Russian culture and society.
@CatalystD9 Рік тому
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
@Rod732 Рік тому
Thanks for your hard work and glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦❤️❤️❤️
@jamesewanchook2276 Рік тому
Heavy long range missiles, tanks and jets. Chase that bear back to hell. Slava Ukraine! 🇨🇦🇺🇦
@samsungtap4183 Рік тому
Ok tinkabell !
@linmal2242 Рік тому
@@samsungtap4183 With the magic wand to wave away pesky Ruskie orcs !
@prrrromotiongiven1075 Рік тому
Because Orthodox Christianity is a Caesaropapist (try saying that three times fast) religion, what that meant in ancient times is that the Roman, Byzantine, and eventually Russian emperors appointed the Patriarchs of the Orthodox faith and ultimately the Emperor had final say on what the Church could and couldn't say or do. Emperors and Tsars may be gone, but this tradition of political leaders controlling Orthodox religious leaders still remains.
@annbjorn Рік тому
Im in Norway and married to a Ukrainian. So biased I guess. I did enjoy the podcast.
@matthewrussell8590 Рік тому
Who would have thought Ruby Wax would have such a deep insight into the Russian state church. Amazing.
@simonlee8889 Рік тому
yeah, amazing.. And a friend of Victor Pinchuk too!
@lettucesalad3560 Рік тому
Number of Russian soldiers lost Putin cares about: Still Zero
@lettucesalad3560 Рік тому
@Shadow Banned News Thanks for your unqualified opinion which I'll ignore.
@robertsteele474 Рік тому
@@lettucesalad3560 I give your opinion an unqualified recommendation.
@linmal2242 Рік тому
@@lettucesalad3560 Good
@soepdurp Рік тому
Stop Putler.
@samsungtap4183 Рік тому
Love this sight, these guys can put a spin on anything !
@atrain5197 Рік тому
site spin tankie
@madeanaccounttospillthebor9568 Рік тому
Cant put a spin on this: Russia launches missiles what target civilians. Kiev is very restraint compared to the terrorists in Moscow
@thelifeofplay7435 Рік тому
The only solution for these Russian tactics are more ammunitions . Sorry for being harsh but some people don’t understand when they aren’t wanted.
@michaelwoods1924 Рік тому
And better Ukrainian generals
@franciscomarcelino1251 Рік тому
@@michaelwoods1924 are u supposed to shoot them with the power of the mind?
@SL-sd3sg Рік тому
💙💛🇬🇧
@neptune5728 Рік тому
Every occasion might have a hidden treasure: at least the reluctance of the West means that the Russians keep underestimating. They have to forget their tactics for the next mobilization, because they didn't count on those tanks. And then they optimistically expect that it won't come to anything with the F-16, and they again have to find another tactic. Their confusion about the West being confused is also a tactic :)
@tubthump Рік тому
2:27 yes Russia has been attacking Bakhmut for nearly a year now. But Ukraine spent 8 years fortifying it.
@tubthump Рік тому
@E KL my point is that Russian progress in this region is inevitably slow because their enemy is dug into entrenchments and fortifications which have been 8 years in the making.
@FrancisHegarty Рік тому
@E KL And every day they hold onto a piece of ground, hundreds more Ukrainians die unnecessarily.
@MSnow-pu4qs Рік тому
>fortifying for 8 years >Claims that Russia has been attacking for only nearly a year So what were Ukrainians fighting 8 years? Paper planes?
@tubthump Рік тому
@@MSnow-pu4qs Ukraine's military joined in the civil war and the bombing of civilians in Donetsk city
@mikeavery4098 Рік тому
Madison Wisconsin.
@davidelliott5843 Рік тому
Russian Orthodox Church survived the Soviet era. They back Putin today because the line of least resistance is how they survive. The Church of England has gone woke but is that really any different?
@linmal2242 Рік тому
Are all the Western Intel/Security Services ramped up to deal with this threat from the (Soviet union) sorry Russia ! This reportage about Kiril and the Ruskie Orthodox Church is very topical and so indicative of the perversion of state institutions and sovciety ! (That really was an unintentional typo !)
@steve-real Рік тому
I finally saw what Roland looks like. He’s one brave man. It’s good to put face on the cast of characters on this pod. I still haven’t seen some of my other favorites yet.
@darrenbolam1798 Рік тому
🇦🇺👍
@righteousbyfaithinChrist Рік тому
Because kgb buddy.
@davidelliott5843 Рік тому
Russia has lost all of its experienced troops. They have nobody to train new troops. However, they don’t have Sergeants so who knows how they were ever going to train their soldiers.
@Niall101a Рік тому
Sure thing Dave, keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
@duncanstewart6381 Рік тому
In the sky we salute the Green Comet. Not seen since 50,000 years ago. 10° up from the Polaris North Star.
@linmal2242 Рік тому
All I can see is the Southern Cross !
@davidelliott5843 Рік тому
Some say that USA should provide ATACMS rockets. These have the range. But Russia can shoot them down and the effects of cluster bombs will politically damage Ukraine.
@yuriprigozin7497 Рік тому
Solidar will be interesting once the tanks arrive I bet
@jacobrandall4891 Рік тому
Soledar has been lost and I don't see the advantage of retaking the Donbas towns. better use of western weapons is to take Zaphoriszha region
@linmal2242 Рік тому
@@jacobrandall4891 And secure the coast around Odessa for Shipping.
@Aaron-rw3lv Рік тому
I wish these evacuation stories could penetrate into the Russian space. They have to know they are the bad guys right?
@Koryogden Рік тому
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" Everybody evil , thinks they aren't
@mikefallwell1301 Рік тому
Germans were completely blind to the Holocaust
@libertinoradio4597 Рік тому
Is it possible to employ people that can manage a whole sentence without saying "y'know"?
@jamesewanchook2276 Рік тому
my thought as well!
@louise7347 Рік тому
"Um..."
@niklaswikholm514 Рік тому
Good work, good guests, good for ukraina
@yuriprigozin7497 Рік тому
This hideous and barbaric venture
@robertricketts5467 Рік тому
Stay safe Roland.
@jannarkiewicz633 Рік тому
I don't know the guy but yeah.... I'm worried about him. And worried about all Ukrainians.
@davidcox8945 Рік тому
Ugh!
@stumpe9662 Рік тому
Rare no locked comments?
@simonlee8889 Рік тому
first time I've bothered to listen to this twaddle... Not surprised if they do block comments.. I mean, it's garbage..
@robmessenger6895 Рік тому
We're a step closer to WW3 - serious question. UK has 225 nuclear war heads, so exactly who has last say on whether some of those warheads are launched at Moscow - UK PM or UK King?
@FrancisHegarty Рік тому
If it comes to that, your question will be irrelevant.
@dearmas9068 Рік тому
No nukes are going to fly.
@bishopofsahs Рік тому
🤷🏼♂️🚬🍺
@markshields6997 Рік тому
Go raibh mile for sticking with the story. No war reportage fatigue with ye folk. It's no less important, tragic, horrific, shocking now than it was when Russian forces invaded. Calm, sane, big picture, evidential commentary. A huge tragedy for Russian people also. Ruled by vainglorious, deluded callous idiots. Ukraine Abu.
@silvio1176 Рік тому
Русская Православная Церковь ВИНТАЕТ НАЗАД
@goldcoasttime Рік тому
this is propaganda radio
@AcuteTomato Рік тому
Olga is an American, what a surprise. Not!
@skoookum Рік тому
Telegraph is trash
@dearmas9068 Рік тому
This pod is outstanding and informative.
@user-bp5dm4tp6c Рік тому
All fake
@SerenityMae11 Рік тому
Your birth was fake
@Koryogden Рік тому
It's 2023 why the low-effort troll?
@mathildestoltz4260 Рік тому
What is fake?
@simonlee8889 Рік тому
@@mathildestoltz4260 just about all of it.... but not 'fake', just hopelessly biased and inaccurate... but that's their job. If they didn't peddle this rubbish, they wouldn't have one...
@FrancisHegarty Рік тому
@Simon Lee It's not biased or even propaganda. They are just outright liars. They think they have banned oppositional voices and people aren't able to find more accurate news.
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
Didn't NATO put sanctions on Russian exports which caused the energy problems? Germany was happy with the energy they were getting from Russia.
@Anna-xc7vz Рік тому
Strange perspective.
@dearmas9068 Рік тому
Not even remotely strange
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
I think Ukraine probably will join NATO after the war if the new border of Ukraine is the dnipro River.
@FrancisHegarty Рік тому
No they won't.
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
@@FrancisHegarty yes they will
@dearmas9068 Рік тому
There will not be a new border. The old one is correct. And yes, Ukraine will join NATO once Russia is forced to beg for peace.
@simstar6564 Рік тому
How would England like a Chinese base in Scotland, happy about that
@dearmas9068 Рік тому
Not relevant and it doesnt matter. Ukraine is a sovereign country and is allowed to join any alliance it pleases. Russia doesnt have the right to do or say anything about it, and even though they're trying to, they're going to lose this war, and Ukraine will get what it wants.
@simstar6564 Рік тому
@@dearmas9068 Russia is not losing this war, more and more towns are falling every week, how are they doing that if they are losing, the west doesnt want to send there weapons anymore, I suspect the Americans will never send tanks to Ukraine, so much of the western news is propaganda, too many Ukrainians and Russians are dying for nothing
@sergueimikhail9654 Рік тому
Ви не зрозуміли, любі діти. Якщо я сьогодні стану президентом Росії, і росіяни, і українці почнуть називати Путіна Володимиром Добрим. Я надеру вам дупи так сильно, що жодна дурна думка ніколи не спаде вам на думку.😊
@franciscomarcelino1251 Рік тому
🤣🤣🤣
@MSnow-pu4qs Рік тому
@@dearmas9068 it's ukrainian language, man
@devilishdeed Рік тому
Ukraine is losing.
@franciscomarcelino1251 Рік тому
They are not.
@Niall101a Рік тому
@@franciscomarcelino1251 This is your brain on western media
@docchiro100 Рік тому
Yes they are but Telegraph reporters have to stay online with the Western narrative. End of February Russia gets its new assault divisions.
@FrancisHegarty Рік тому
@Francisco Marcelino Altogether now. Oh! yes they are. 😊
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