Try to get a neutral moderator for that one, it would be more in the spirit of the basic idea behind free speech and debate.

Russian State Duma passes total ban on GMO crops and animals. 27, 2016 Russia’s State Duma adopted Friday the third and final reading of a government bill that introduces a total ban on the cultivation and breeding in Russia of genetically modified (GM) plants and animals, except for scientific research purposes. The State Duma has also given the Russian Government the right to prevent the import of products containing GMOs in to Russia, if it is revealed that a specific GMO has a negative impact on human health and/or the environment. Russia’s Agriculture Minister, Alexander Tkachev, stated Friday, ”The Ministry of Agriculture is strongly against GMOs, Russian products will remain clean.” The initial first reading of the government bill was held in 2015 and this was followed by the second reading in the Sate Duma earlier this week. The additions in the final bill included the introduction of fines that will be placed on people or companies that violate the ban: a fine of 10,000-50,000 ($150-$750) rubles for individuals and 100,000-500,000 rubles for legal entities ($1,500-$7,500). The Russian Government has stood strong in the face of increasing pressure from U.S. biotech companies and they have also managed to see through the Russian pro-GMO forces’ misleading claims and pseudoscience. In December 2015, Russian President Vladimir Putin told the Russian Parliament that Russia should become the world’s largest supplier of organic foods. Also in 2015, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich stated that it is not necessary to use genetic modification to feed the world, at the 12th International "Science and Technology in Society" (STS) forum in Kyoto, Japan. This strength shown by the Russian government was also shown early in 2016 when they dealt a huge blow to U.S. farmers, by banning all imports of U.S. soybeans and corn due to microbial and GMO contamination.

Before Putin, Russia had the unquestioned 2nd best standing army in the world. Months after Putin's invasion into Ukraine, Zelensky has clearly shown that Russia's army was second best in Ukraine. Afterwards Prigozhin showed to the world that Putin's army was also second best in Russia. In the war between Putin and surviving Nazi armies across the kaput Crimea Kerch Strait Bridge, Prigozhin and Zelensky just wanted ammunition, while the Covid fearful Putin just needs a ride.

At the rate that the Putin War is losing Eastern military brainpower, Mearsheirmer should volunteer much needed mercenary and military rear field command insights.

@stephengee. You are talking crap. Talk fact; don't give us fantasyland wishful thinking. Today, the average age of the Ukrainian military is 43 years. It must be the oldest military in the world. One 71 year old man was found in a Ukrainian tank crew. A pregnant woman Ukrainian soldier surrendered to the Russians. These are the objective facts that show that the Ukrainian military is toast.

It´s embarrising to listen to Bildt. So stuck in his bad knowledge and in his propaganda talking. What is the role of the moderator. Is it to be arrogant?

To be honest, I find some satisfaction seeing Carl making a fool of himself 😁

You are probably right. Also, remember that Carl was a supporter of US aggression in Iraq and doesnt have a moral ground to stand on.

@@bilder43 I am not saying that I agree with Bildt, but he makes good points, I have no idea what you mean by being embarrassing. There is not much difference in knowledge between the 2 but there is a big difference in interpretation. Using demeaning language about people we don't agree is of poor taste.

bildt is a memberof cfr and the rand corp, both american neocon hotspots.

I was surprise she didn't take her chair beside Carl and whisper in his ear...

I cannot agree more with you. Mearsheimer was very polite and didn't mention anything about the Nazis controling Zelensky when Carl said that Ukraine is a democratic country.

I would encourage people to watch Professor Timothy Synder lectures on Ukrainian history at Yale. Are there unsavoury people in Ukrainian politics for sure but a naive approach to Russian or Putin s rewriting history is problematic

How is Ukraine "nazi dominated"? Nazi parties got almost no votes and have no power or influence in their goverment. Their president is a jew. Ur comment is basically just russian propaganda.

Just another US created Proxy War. People have no ideas of how the US operates to continue their Power over all nations. I wish the World luck. I wonder why the world is a complete mess; perhaps people are too unsophisticated?

When challenged the glaring flaws in Mearsheimer's arguments shine through his veneer of certainty. And when his ill-conceived conjecture was called out his response was to simply repeat it again, as though saying something makes it so. 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️🤨 Your opinion of Mearsheimer's performance is unfounded. If you were aware of more details involved, which Mearsheimer omits, and the others therd clearly know about (as do I), you'd recognize why Mearsheimer's arguments have never held water, and you'd perceive his performance here differently too. But ignorance is bliss, I suppose.

@@LittleDesertFlower78 So kind of you to actually bring those details up...

Sweden is a lapdog of USA.

She has her own Agenda?

@@Nietzscheable ; No doubt an agenda of European elitism, combined with climate change zealotry.

US and EU don’t care about Ukraine. Only if it aligns with their own interest. Same as Russia. The politician debater who makes it sound like US and EU are full time charity crusaders who want to enforce will of Ukrainian people is insanely propagandist and ultimately counterproductive

@@alohatime2171 ; I will agree that the west has no concern about sacrificing the Ukrainian people in their attempt to move NATO even further eastward, and force political upheaval that follows the orders of Brussels and Washington DC.

I hear you ,very disappointing

It's something that you should have assumed and expected. With all due respect, You haven't even seen the tip of the ice berg

Exactly ...by a bunch of morons.

Disappointed? Do you expect ANY government to tell the truth? Truth pushes you out of power, and you are no longer in the government.

What is the point of your comment? It doesn't mean anything. What fear? Who experiences it, drug addicts? Who are "us"? Why do you think it would have been better if something would have been done differently? What could have been done differently? Why do you think it was fear that caused the deterioration of "your" safety?

​@@ilya2226 He's referring to 9/11 and COVID-19, that or there's monsters under the bed.

I fear daily

​@@salted_lizardHis comment says nothing, "just fear bro". These fears are quite real as there are many dictatorships around the world that want to control their neighbors.

take a long look around sweetheart, or perhaps you dont go outside? @@ilya2226

They think naive idiots rule the worlds biggest country

Whats bad about it? It ended years of war and conflict.

@@tpeterson9140 conflict caused by NATO divide and conquer. Last I checked everywhere NATO goes war and conflict follow. Just look at Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan etc

@@tpeterson9140 So the same would apply to what's happening in Ukraine. It would end the killing of the Ukrainians in the Donbas. Over 14,000 lost their lives in the past 8 years. So you should support Russia.

The lady and Bilt are like naive teens

Karl Bild is a joke. American joke.

Mearsheimer’s biggest flaw in the Ukraine question, is that he does not allow Ukraine and Ukrainians any agency. To him it seems that Ukraine is to be viewed as a Russian colony, more or less. This is deeply misguided…

@@achillestortoise Misguided? They are the same people. How is this misguided? You are misguided.

@@achillestortoise Starting with the referendum/poll of 1994, shortly after Ukrainian independence in 1991, Donbas and Crimea have several times expressed a desire for greater autonomy within Ukraine. Let's not forget this began as a civil war...something Russia privately warned the US might happen in 2008.

Johns uses his education to justify the first war of conquest in Europe since the end of World War II.

the yucrain is but a pawn in the filth practiced by the west and its master in the near east.....

Who is telling the truth in this debate?

@@luigimario4458 If I told you there is risk you will not take my word for it. Do as I have, research and you will find. It may help to begin with Mearsheimers earlier lectures already from 2014 here on YT. Former chancellor Merkel said recently; "the Minsk agreements where only useful to give time to arm Ukraine". It is a piece in the puzzle that builds the image of truth.

Arm Ukraine - with what? 5000 helmets Lambrecht sent in January? 😁There was no arming of Ukraine before miscalculated invasion by stupid kremlin gang.

@@andriusp2955 And now, as of this morning, Lambrecht is gone. 👏👏

Let those words give courage to the best of the Russian people, those who oppose Putin's monstrous campaign of mass mer dur, mass ray p, mass torture, mass destruction, mass kidnapping and mass larceny.

as a Russian troll you mean 😅

True, Bildt ran off to Washington DC with confidential information from the investigations done by the 'submarine commission'. In any other normal country he would have been charged for high treason. In Sweden he was promoted with various minister posts. This guy is a lizard and couldn't even refrain from lying also in this debate.

Is he one of the ones who thought filling Sweden with non-Europeans would be a good idea?

@@jenniferlawrence2701 Good question, I don't know the answer, but I suspect he has taken part of that.

Extreme hypocrisy is shown by Bildt. He has taken some part politically in the processes that ultimately have taken apart Yugoslavia, totally disrespecting the territorial integrity of the Serbs and after Bosnia, Kosovo, Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Albania have been sliced from Yugoslavia, he claims that he is against violent border changes. How dare he?

Are you for real? Mearsheimer is a well-known trojan horse, who pushes dictator totalitarian narrative. Don't be delusional. High class paid actor.

He predicted the Ukraine conflict long before it happened. It is on youtube.

Could not agree with you more. the problem is however we have warmongers, fools and the brainwashed at the helm.

finland is messed up. our leaders are lunatics.

Not only that but one was reading from notes the other one spoke freely

Money talks loudly ,so loudly....

That means Bildt is connected with the military industrial complex. No doubt that association affects, or shades his views.

I found Carl Bildt utterly rude and mannerless in addition to trying to manipulate the audience. He keeps interrupting professor during this debate. I guess he is just very insecure to let professor Mearsheimer talk. Such a hypocrite.

The sponsoring organization should have stated that at the outset. All in all a very non professional effort...

Thank you. This really explains a lot.

A lot of people incl Bildt did what they could. But with Putin that doesn’t help. The only way to keep peace with Putin in power is to keep him weak.

@@carljonsson9964 5 months later. Putin is destroying the west, or should i say; The west is on a collective suicide mission to please a few rich men in Washington. And some of the sheep still cheer this on. Just mindblowing

hahaha this made my day! I cried laughing :)

empty hopes. these kind of people are too selfish and arrogant.

Thanks

I don't mind her bias in the sense she does have a role to play in presenting the commonly understood Western narrative of the war. But her lack of preparation and knowledge was hard to watch. She's a well-meaning, uneducated air head.

Try to find a nordic academic, politician or media personality not impregnated by their own russophobic narrative. Good Luck!

She has her side already before it started. For that reason, I admit John a lot!

@@Gvarab She was also very rude, almost shouting at Mersheimer at 1:21 onwards, which clearly shows her biass and unability to moderate a debate which pretends to enrich with divergent opinions. Confusing a debate with a rally the flag around UA ... the same would be appliable to a symmetrical false debate in Serbia or Hungary, without a argued debate of all points. Mersheimer shows with his calm but firm arguments that he is a master at this.

@@santoriniblue8413 That is true.I googled her and was surpårised to see that she was a respected academic in the same field as Mearsheimer and not a journalist.

The Soviets are gone.

true. our world leaders wanted this war to get more money for their own pockets. we should have known better. we are manipulated by fear and through fear, we follow. The covid19 was a starting point of this fear experiment. people should resist their own govt when we know better. any war of any kind will not help our country at any cost. each country has its own culture and beliefs, and we have no goddamn reason to act as police to say what is wrong and right to other countries. Heck we have a lot of problems inside our own for crying out loud!

I'd venture to say they did, with that in mind, what are they REALLY UP 2 ????

Forseeable and preventable for those who sought peace.

In their minds, they threw Ukraine to the dogs, hoping the Russians get indigestion. They have no care for how many thousands of Ukranian corpses are being scattered around. Borders on psychopathic behaviour.

Blinded by dollars into their own pockets more like.

Not Putin?

I totally agree with you. Bildt is dealing with the issue on emotions.

@@SA-ff9uc yes not putin.

This guy Carl is an example of pure derangement syndrome. It was very hard to stay quiet, when despite of such a danger facing humanity this guy solution is to double down until Ukraine wins. He does not care what the win looks like, or what is the price to pay for this illusion. Does he realize that nuclear Armageddon when pursuing his victory illusion, delusion is the end of any life on the planet Earth. How can you be so deranged, so callous, so out of touch with reality??? Shame!!!

I agree 100% He’s a jingoists and a ultra Neo Liberal. Cares more about enriching the Trilateral countries then he does the East and the southern hemisphere. His politics are pure Neo Con his economics are pure Friedman and Rand.

absolutely agree. nobody wants to rising up this questions. coz many criminals against humanity (politicians), who participated in destroying of Yugoslavia are still alive. Russia will make a precedent. The Tribunal will be really INTERNATIONAL. Not the US pocket tribunal.

If you accept Putin's aggressive and paranoid worldview as legitimate, it all follows. But, predictably that is the road to hell.

@@user-hy1wv4so9w Yugoslavia was no more sustainable than the pre-1918 Austrian Empire. Get real. Serbs committed genocide.

@@TedATL1 sure. and for sure it's russians started to kill people of Donbass. and for sure the NATO and the US were saving "democracy and freedom" and bring peace and stability in Belgrad in 1999. congratulations. you won.

Thanks, though I’m trying to now to follow The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth, again Thanks!

And they still lost on merit. John's arguments are more factual and reasonable.

Disappointed that a former premier of sweden resorts to ridiculous Hitler & Poland cliches on Putin. The US has completely broken the European economies and made us fully dependent on the them whilst increasing defence spending by trillions $.

@@tagsoneveryting mearsheimer is putins bitch. Those simple and smart explanations are just propaganda

John Mearsheimer claimed in a past lecture that Russia wouldn't attack Ukraine-that didn't age well. Mearsheimer's claim on some history is also wrong. 1 of the early enforcers of the Monroe Doctrine was not the USA but the British Navy. And he also may have screwed up the history of the Cuban Missile Crisis again. In the prior lecture he claimed it was over a Soviet base in Cuba. This is wrong. The crisis was over missiles and was resolved with removing them from both Turkey and Cuba.

@@pplr1 your facts are incorrect

Tammy AI did a top job. The speaker understands shit. Its all or nothing as far as the USA is concerned.

Precisely, with all that propaganda spewed!

I've stopped listening to the constant spew of lies from all western media. BBC, France24, DW, CNN, MSNBC etc etc...they think everyone's too stupid to know the truth, even when the precursor events to Ukraine war happened in the last decade. The west has become The Empire of Lies...

Ukraine is an independent sovereign nation and will make its own decisions. Ukraine sought protection from the West because Russia kept stealing her land.

not having countries such France and Germany to be signatory to such argreement may properly been better and keep the world safe. What was the purpose of having them been there and they are unable to stop this conflict.

Now,.. I think, Russia will not accept autonomy for Donbass..within Ukraine. That bus has left the station. Neither will Russia believe any agreement. Nor will a Ukranian sovereignty be in interest of East Ukrainians.. given the recent behavior of the Ukranian State

Thanks for that info. Really important context since the Rand Corporation hasn't seen a war it doesn't like.

Carl was really breaking under pressure from John M. at 1:28:00 to 1:32:00. The mediator stopped the debate because of how uncomfortable and all red Carl was, so she stopped the discussion. The build up of arguments that Carl has NO answer to starts at around 1:13:00 and it builds and builds argument after argument up to when the mediator had to stop them because Carl was breaking under pressure. Just look at how his voice changes from 1:28:00 to 1:30:00. John made the following arguments that Carl had no answer to: 1. Carl says that Russian elites disagree with Putin. John M. provides evidence that it is not the case and that most Russian elites DO agree with Putin. Carl had no response to that and did not provide evidence. 2. Carl said that NATO expansion was off the table in 2008, John provided evidence that it was not the case because the US said in june 2021 that they want to incorporate Ukraine into NATO. Carl provided no evidence that opposed this, only empty words. Mediator asks J.M. a question so we don't get a response from Carl, again... ( because he has no evidence!). 3. At 1:30:00 Carl says again that Ukraine was not going to get into NATO because "we had no forces there" like incorporation into NATO "requires" forces in that country. This is not true. None of the countries that became a part of NATO from 1994 to 2020 had NATO forces in that country before becoming members so this is total nonsense. Carl was really breaking down at this point and I am really disappointed that the mediator cut the debate here. That was really unfortunate.

@@xbandosx1 Thanks for time stamps with analysis

@@xbandosx1 i think you are reading into his emotions the way you want to. You are seeing things. Im not feeling that at all from Carl

I’m trying to now follow The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth, " Thanks!"

@@jaredwoodford8849 is one of them trolling?

Thanks, though I’m trying to now to follow The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth, again Thanks!

Funny how you say propaganda because you dont agree. Instead of pointing some things where the others are wrong and Mearsheimer is right.

@@garad123456 the ones praising mearsheimer are probably not real. It's part of the Russian propaganda model to do this praising because it makes the Russia friendly messege more believable.

Carl has a pation of his Europe n doesn't understand the world like mr. John.

@@sinoafricansinoafrican9821 Agreed.

i think john was very bad. he talked only about principle and some abstract terms, but never really talked about reality except the red line.

@@klauskinski5969I tend to disagree with you. If anything, John, as he described himself, is a realist and hence he reflected the reality for which Carl kept ducking the points that John brought up. Carl proved time and time he is an extreme left neocon. The world is where it is now because of people like Carl and hold the same “values”.

I would say the height of cluelessness was towards the end when the moderator brought up the UN security council. I doubt that even the UN takes the UN seriously.

Yes, Carl was a pain to listen to...

Mr Sweden loves his master

Carl Bilt is destroyed Yugoslavia, he help Albanian to take Kosovo, now SUPPORT Ukraine's behaves in Dombad and not suport Russia to protect Russia population.

@@annab8766 Russia runs a brutal and illegal war, and it forcibly conscripts the poor males in the occupied territories and feed them as cannon fodder against prepared ukrainian positions. There is zero ambition from Russia to protect anyone.

Good for you. I managed about 30 seconds of Bildt before hitting that fast forward. I just can't bear the predictable hypocrisy and selective memory.

Russia wasn’t accepted for 2 reasons. NATO was created to defend the world against Russia. And they did not want to follow the outlines of what it took to become a member. They wanted special exceptions to be made so they could continue their corrupt government and unjust court system to start.

Why would anyone want Russia in NATO when its run by a criminals that support and fund terror?

In order to become a member of NATO, you must have at least some standards of budget transparency that will not allow the Russian elite to build their tasteless palaces. Guess what they'll choose. There was no coup in 2014. The Ukrainian parliament, in which Yanukovych had a majority, removed him from power by 328 votes out of 450 AFTER he fled. Yanukovych and the opposition had an agreement that he would remain president until the re-election, potentially for another year. The collapse of the coalition is not a coup. Russia did not "accept the Minsk agreements"; it imposed them on Ukraine. The Minsk agreements are a continuation of aggression by diplomatic means, the purpose of which is to limit the sovereignty of Ukraine. During the signing of both agreements, the Russian army invaded Ukraine in order to pressure Poroshenko to make concessions. Literally at the time of the signing of the second agreements, the Russian army was trying to encircle the Ukrainian forces around Debaltseve.

And there is no discussion that the US is separately trying to maintain the Petro Dollar- its EDGE over the entire world. I do not trust US to do the right thing for the World. This should be the primary concern, at this point in time.

right....latest statement from the WH is : "The United States believes that Zelensky is not ready now to negotiate with Russia about the situation around Ukraine"-The White House ----- the US has ofc the final say in all of this...ukraine is 100% a puppet of the US. if u like to believe this is all about the defense of the "sovereignty" of ukraine then idk what to say sry...neither ukraine nore any european state has any say in this sry

I was feeling gaslight the whole time he tried to argue nato didn't want to expand to Ukraine...

Thanks for sharing I had no idea who Bilt was. I could just feel the slippery ness of the guy. He was equivocating, omitting pieces of information and was clearly trying to manipulate the audience. He was also assuming the audience was ill informed about the history and could be easily fooled. The red flags went up for me! One such example was his comment that Ukraine and other Eastern European nations wanted to be like Poland because they saw success. They were knocking at EU’s doors. On the surface, that’s perfectly reasonable. However, the omitted piece was that when Poland was being set up for success at the time of USSR collapse, Russia was refused help when it had financial troubles. The goal was to bankrupt them in the 1990s, so God forbid they became an example to follow. People like him are nefarious and liars. They mislead us by giving us half truths. They are on an anti Russia crusade for decades. That’s for reasons of power not for the good of the man on the street or democracy or human rights, like he so sanctimoniously claimed. They have been jeopardizing Russia by design for a long time and then claiming innocence. Who do they think they fooling? There is enough evidence that people like him have been doing that since the 1990s. Gaslighting sociopath. Unfortunately, most people are busy making a living and don’t have the time to examine and the mass media is just an extension of these power hungry people.

He has been on the bord of directors for a Russian energy company and a few other dodgy oligarch like behaviour

@@rp3875 gaslighting psychopath? Are you Russian?

That saya It all

100%

Climate change would be irrelevant, wouldn't it?🤔

@@user-np7st5mi1t .. This is about MONEY! Do you live in LA - LA Land?

@@oddvardmyrnes9040 Maybe I'm missing something, but your point and question seem to me to be entirely unrelated to what I said 😕

@@user-np7st5mi1t .. Yes, intentionally so. My point is that economic issues will always trumps environmental issues. Why do I say that? Let me explain. Politics is about money. Who controls them, & what they are used for. You see it very clearly when you understand the structure of things. And now, today as we speak, the world you know is about to change. As we face a gun pointed to our heads, we have to confront these forces. Stop them dead in their tracks. Please follow me a little longer, I ask you to consider what I write; The world is crashing, but it is not random. It is controlled. At the base of our society lies energy (oil & gas). It affects everything you surround yourself with. Clothes, food, transport etc. When the crash comes (it is starting in earnest now), oil prizes will normally drop due to decrease in demand. History tells us that. Make sense. Less activity, less need for oil. What will happen to oil companies when this happens? They will have to compete. The one that has the best & cheapest product will win. This is what the free market teaches us. Well, the US oil production is NOT the cheapest. The extraction method, fracking, is expensive and have a much higher COP than other methods. It is only oil-sand production & synthetic oil extraction from coal that are more expensive. The Russian & Saudi oil is far less expensive than the American oil. U.S. production need 60+ USD a barrel to be profitable. Below that, they lose money. Russia & SA are at the 10 - 20 USD a barrel range. This has been why the FEDS propped up the financial market to keep demand high. Now the market is crashing & BOOM, we crash. The massive American investment in the fossil fuel industry, must be protected. Europe has agreed to shut Russia off/or reduce volume, from the European oil & gas market, and as you can hear Senator Cruz say, Texas are ready to start producing for export. He yells 'kill the Nordstream pipeline and send weapons to the heroic Ukrainians.' Yeah.... But the Europeans will not pay top dollar for a product they can get reliably next door, to a much cheaper prize, one can argue. That is where the Ukrainian war comes in. Get everybody fired up, make binding rash decisions that shut Russia out of the world's monetary system (shut them down basically), inhibit & take over their lucrative oil & gas market, Europe, & inhibit their exports. Accomplish that & the American economy is saved. How will that save them? With one of the biggest oil producers out of the market, the oil supply will be constricted, thus securing a high base prize, whatever happens in the world economy. That saves the American energy sector. Then the crazy war machine will profit immensely off the world's increased tensions, and a prolonged insurrection war in Ukraine. NATO will buy guns like crazy. That saves the weapons industry, and thirdly it will weaken Russia, so Israel will get elbowroom & can finish off Syria & possibly Iran. Follow the Gaza situation right now. This is the grand plan of the crazy people in this administration, and the one before, and before that all the way back to Mr Bush Sr. In my mind, the U.S. wanted this war. In a crazy high risk geopolitical game, with underlying economic incentives, America has fueled this war. The reasons for wanting war is rooted in the coming world economic crash, as I described above. The FEDS have kept the market artificially alive with its Quantitative Easing policy and its participation in the Repo market. The war in Ukraine is provoked, and has as its goal, to shut Russia out of the European energy market. Here are the 4 reasons for this crazy scheme; 1. Keep oil supply low in the world, securing a high oil prize during coming crash. 2. Secure a new Cold War in Europe, with massive profits for the weapons industry. 3. Weaken Russia in Syria, creating elbowroom for Israel to finish off Assad & split Syria along ethnic lines. 4. Cease Russia's natural Resources. Easy to verify. Check the min oil prize U.S. & Russia need to be profitable. Check property market in China & in the U.S. Verify the state those markets are in right now. Check the finance Repo market. Check the U.S. ten year bond yield. Now that the war has happened, and Russia is cut out of the market, FEDS will stop QE & raise the interest rate. The planned gargantuan crash can start. But there is a problem. USA's energy needs must be met. And how do the US do that when they have stopped Russian imports? How can the refineries along the gulf cost get crude oil cheep enough now that you have kicked out Russian oil? Venezuela, is your answer. Google search for 'U.S. ties easing of Venezuela sanctions to direct oil supply' and you will see for yourself. But Venezuela wants to sell at market prize. One can argue. No they won't. The trick is that America has enforced sanctions on them, and Venezuela lack infrastructure to get production volume up. You get it? Yes sir. America moves in to modernize the oil production, and Maduro play ball. He has to. If not...you know the history as well as I do. From the security perspective, the notion of Russia being a 'offensive' nation is wrong. Their posture is defensive. Putin is characterized as unhinged, mad, delusional and so on. He is not. He is human, though, and he does mistakes. Putin did one thing wrong, he invaded Ukraine. He should not have done that at all. He should have waited until the world crashed (as it is doing right now), and then flood the market with cheep oil. That would have built Russia to en economic power, crushed the American oil industry, struck a blow to the U.S. financial system, and blown up the energy independence of the U.S. Instead, he went straight into the trap that was set for him with both feet. Look up NATO advisor Jaques Baud and read his story on how NATO trained the Ukrainian army. Go to OCE web page & you will find that Ukraine increased artillery fire 10-fold in Donbas, starting the 16th of February. Russia invaded the 24th. Read his story, and you will understand what game NATO played. Ukraine is important to Russia because Russia has no geographic barrier onto their land. It is impossible for Russia to defend its borders if the opposition is present along all their borders. That is why it is imperative, for their security, that parts of the borderline are free of opposition. Ukraine is therefor vital for them. Just as Caucasus is (Georgia). Even if Putin was president or not. Listen to Mr John Mearsheimers assessment of Russia strategic position in Europe. Go to 'Caspianreport' UKposts channel & see the video report 'Will Russia become a superpower?' This is two episodes and is an excellent introduction to the Geopolitics of Russia. Look up 'Extending Russia: Competing from Advantageous Ground' and read the cynical & Draconian recepy on how to destroy Russia. Not to mention the hypocrisy from the U.S. considering their own history. Cuba is a prime example. NATO has, in my mind, deliberately campaigned against Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union. The strategy now, during the crazy world economic situation, is to wage economic war on Russia, aimed at acquiring its assets. Some assets have been sold to China. They need the oil, but they pay between 30 - 50% less than the rich Europeans do. Russia will also suffer 'brain drain', so needed expertise to develop & maintain oil fields will suffer. Their output will decrease, and the U.S & China knows that. Ask yourself these questions: 1. Why did Ukraine NOT implement the Minsk agreement that they signed in 2015? 2. Then this; Why did NATO invite Ukraine & Georgia to seek Membership when there was never a chance for them to join? 3. And this; Why will Europe agree to shutting out Russia from the world's monetary system when it will only result in more chaos? What mental gymnastics do you need to embark on to remotely think that; 1. Georgia is part of Europe. 2. How can Ukraine, which has parts of their territory in dispute, and a state of war existed within their borders, enhance security in Europe, or in the North Atlantic area? Europe is directly responsible for the situation that now exist. They could have averted all this by studying history a little. Article 10 gives every country de facto VETO right for enlargement. Now we risk having a new Afghanistan in the middle of Europe. And the people that will die is the Ukrainians & the Russians. Europe will be more dependent on the U.S. than ever, while America is cashing in. It is all about money!

Best comment. A lot of silly fan-boying for Mearsheimer by those predisposed to agree with Mearsheimer. There are many highly capable analysts who would disagree with Mearsheimer on many points. Timothy Snyder would be an excellent choice to debate him, but there are others as well. Mearsheimer, as a forecaster of the future, has the problem of being an ideologue committed to offensive realism. Any forecast that deviates from his grand view is a threat to his entire worldview, which reduces his cognitive flexibility and his ability to deal with facts that don't "fit" his ideology. Snyder could be said to suffer the same, but at least he would bring countervailing evidence and inconvenient facts to the table.

It won't. Outside of Hungary, EU is completely united in opposing Russian aggression.

He is very aware and of course understands everything that happens. But it is his deliberate intention to shape a reality perception in the viewer that supports his desired outcome.

@@farzana6676 I'm not so sure! If the EU's success was based on economic well-being, when there bad times come. Many countries within the EU will begin to focus on their own interests. Think about the latest developments between Germany and France. Add to that the dishonest behavior of the United States, which is luring away European resources (Inflation Reduction Act of 2022) and the unity of the EU does not seem so unshakable. Alsa, what will happen if Russia wins on the battlefield?

This winter will prove disastrous for EU unity. 😂

he makes unnecessary sarcastic remarks like "they waved the EU and not USA flag", "unlike your geography that moves...".... he uses these since I think he has no other sound evidence to say the least.

Well...just look at them. One has the Ukrainian flag on his suit the other doesn't.

Bildt is clearly honest and it's really doubtful Mearsheimer is honest. Some of his ways to align with the Russian perspective is too naive to be plausible. Also, the supporter of war is clearly Mearsheimer. He wants to reward Putin's illegal war and thus complete his effort to shatter the post-WW2 rules-based world order that has prevented new world wars and kept the world relatively peaceful.

@@oldi184 very true, that's a big plus for Bildt.

@@jesan733 But this discredits him as a neutral speaker. He is biased.

I think he could have been more wrong. They agreed on real key points but did not when it came to "Why" the war started in Ukraine And "How" it will play out. One is a liberal optimistic One is an aggro realist. With 3 World Powers now, there's no room for a liberal voice, unfortunately. He never answered 100% if Europe would trade with China in the future with technology. It's scary to think about that

@@Masterfuron There was an element missing regarding China. Yes, it looks like a "great power" with a massive economy. But that fails to take into account at least two facts - not opinions or issues of debate, but objective, verifiable facts: First, China's industrialization was only possible due to taking on massive amounts of debt and spending money they didn't have. It is a major factor in the debasement of their currency and is starting to unravel. Second is the complete demographic collapse of China. The birth rate is currently around 1.2 children per woman, far below the replacement rate of ~2.2 children. This collapse started decades ago, exacerbated by the disastrous 1-child policy. The work force is aging more rapidly than any other industrial economy and by 2030 population growth will be negative. They will not have enough young people to support both the aging population and continued economic growth.

Why did Putin lose the war then?

@CarterM54 If you also look into it, they are starting to sell a lot of their bonds also and keeping the money in their country, which may be a sign of isolation, which they've done before. As for China's pop, they have like 3-4x the number of people than the U.S. has currently. Population + Wealth. They have cutting-edge technology and the brains. As for their "debt," so is the U.S.; almost to the point where we might have to start printing money, and let's not talk about the stock of the dollar.. Now, with that debt, you take it and use it wisely. China may trade technology also, I know it sounds like Im contradicting my point of them isolating in the future, but it's all about timing at that point and being prepared. Make a lot of money, then cut completely off from everyone besides their allies.

@@Dcc-yk2lo Shhh, real men are talking.

Bildt doesn't care about facts. He is a propaganda machine for a liberal conservative political right and they find him quite useful.

Carl Bildt has never understood any important international issue correctly. A typical Swedish leader with very high thought on himself and a big dog´s attitude, but much limited knowledge.

No, these are not what Prof Mearsheimer's structural realism international relations theory suggests about this war. You are simply a Putin apologist, not wiser than Bildt, just stand on the other side.

@@simonyang5191 Anyone that doesn't agree with the West's actions regarding Ukraine and relations with Russia is a "Putin apologist." Default mode.

@@galanis38 Are you serious? Did I say that the West is doing the right thing? Go read the article that Mearsheimer write about the Ukrainian crisis and see what's the difference between a realist and Putin apologist yourself.

I wouldn't have bilt on my boat...

Thanks though I’m trying to now to follow The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth, again Thanks!

I agree, I appreciate the patience of Mearsheimer’s patience,

Actually, I have been listening to many of Mearsheimer's talks, and they are not always nuanced at all. He has his teeth into his theory and as much as he says he wishes he wasn't right... he will defend this theory forever. He is not very nuanced. At all. And he even admits this. According to Mearsheimer, his theory makes up about 70% of reality.

@@RoadkillxDemon I have yet seen a single argument that has been made that has refuted John Mearshamer arguments. He is on point every single time. The whole narrative of but, but, but Putin bad! But, but, but Russia Imperalism! Is actually intellectual laziness. The entire conversation lacks one central key component of why people like you will never understand Russia action is because of the United States. They are the world greatest tyrant that the world as ever seen. If it wasn't because of them 90% of ALL global conflict will have never happened. The reason that the entire war in Ukraine is happening is because Russia was becoming a threat to the US and of course the US did not wanted to have another power challenging them. Hence, the 2014 neo-nazi coup in order to create a proxy war. The whole energy crisis and economic sanctions on Russia etc. That was all planned by the US back in 2019. They wanted this war to happened. They wanted go cut Europe away from Russia. They wanted everything that is currently happening. Yet, European are being played like fools by the US and they are loving it. Of course they are using the same tactic agaisnt China.

So you agree that Russia can invade any nation they wish and the rest of the world should just allow them to kill?

Its one thing to be wrong, its another to be as wrong and arrogant as Mearsheimer is

Mearsheimer is a scholar and analyst whereas Bild is a swamp creature justifiying the MMIC and globalist agenda. His tirade is old and thread barren.

​@bat9056 your a child. Go to bed

@@bat9056 and being ignorant as you are

Exactly.

Yes, obvious russian propaganda :)

@@firasbouhamdan9917 whether it's russian propaganda or not that led to the conflict breakout.

@@sturmx96 what did lead to the war breakout ?

@@firasbouhamdan9917 Russia felt it was threatened and attacked preventively. Putin might be absolutely wrong but he stated it clear in 2021 that Ukraine's presence in Nato is the threat to the security of Russia. So you have to deal with the opinion of your neighbours and it was also Zelensky's fault that he kept pushing that narrative that Ukraine doesn't have to take into account the opinion of its bigger neighbour. Saying that Ukraine might acquire the nukes was the last drop for Putin's patience.

Totally true! I agree 100%. John shines, and Carl Bildt is just unbearable to listen to. He makes me furious with his rudeness and ignorance.

Jesus Christ you people are like a cult lmao

@@MelGibsonFan If acknowledging a persons excellence makes me a cult member then yes I am and proudly so . I would also give you a nod for anything you’ve done that is noteworthy.

Thanks though I’m trying to now to follow The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth, again Thanks!

@@lidstrom3565 Bildt is right, though.

"Russia isn't allowed to be afraid" - Finland began to fear Russia after observing its invasion of Ukraine, what did Russia fear...? For the last 30 years, the only force that carried out aggression against other countries in the region in which Russia is located was Russia itself. "How many nations joined Nato since Putin's sec term?" - Not a single one near Russia. "until London stopped everything" - a conspiracy theory. From the first days of negotiations, Russia demanded capitulation, Ukraine offered a compromise but demanded the removal of troops from the occupied territory. There is no evidence that Russia agreed to this.

no wisdom here

You must be writing from Ukraine?

​@@user-wm5rt9pw5limmense political and historical knowledge and the ability of empathy is wisdom. In John's case you could say it is truthfulness. No doubts about that.

@@konradschulz820 immense political and historical knowledge for some reason failed to help him to recognise that question of Ukraine joining NATO is closed since 2008. Either he don't know basic facts of history of Ukrainian NATO relationship or he dishonest because it contradict his stupid narrative.

Yes, let the bully in the east with nuclear weapons set the rules. But please don't surrender in my name.

before US it was cool and dandy there right?

You forget the Serbian genoside on its neighboor

@@nkosipwl He hasn't "forgotten" anything. Jessie's observation is the supposed principle of no border changes by force is bogus. You and HaTrick are providing justifications for ignoring the supposed principle. So thanks for proving his point.

@@gandydancer9710 you mean genoside is ok. Mr Mersheimer just like Putin get is wrong, they think russia is a great power. In realism ruSSia is not a power in degrad.

@@nkosipwl "In realism ruSSia is not a power in degrad. What's "a power in degrad"? And... "ruSSia"? Gee, I think I see what you did there, but dumb as it is I think its cleverer than you are. No, I didn't say "genoside"(sic) "is ok". I said what I said. Ask someone smarter than you (i.e. anyone other than the brain-damaged likes of John Fetterman or Joe Biden) to explain it to you.

He is a Scandinavian politician, serving US military interests.They all do, every single one. Our former prime minister Stoltenberg. He got the NATO job because he agreed to involve Norway the Libya war. We sure did a lot of carpet-bombing of civilians, so he got his promotion. NATO's Secretary General back then the war-criminal Dane; Anders Fogh Rasmussen. And don't forget the warmongering former prime minister of Finland; Sanna Marin. She quit her job and two days later she had a new job as "Advisor for the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change", and she refused to answer any questions from the Finnish press.. It's a shitshow. Globalist who chose money over Humanity

Carl is a deep state puppet..

He told it. He said he does not know, because no one does, how this war will end, but that Ukraine will need Europe's continued commitment toward repairing it and keeping it stable. He said it was the biggest country in Europe next to Russia and of course, that was all the more reason for the first observations.

No I would not watch those disgusting faces

kkkk

Dont underestimate the swedish elites stupidity

Yes, please let the bully in the east invade as he sees fit.

@@scania1982 Then we shouldn't have antagonize the bully.

One possibility is the West totally miscalculated Russia believing it is too weak to carry out the real action against Ukraine, either militarily and or economically. US NATO EU believe the troves of sanction packages will collapse or destabilize Russia thus effecting the regime change in Moscow! It's still their belief until today!

@@henrylicious It is OK not to be strong but even I do not have your level of defeatism.

As an American, I have to say Carl bildt carried himself very well. Very articulate and cogent arguments made by Bildt.

I know how you feel, here in Finland its the exact same thing, our politicians are childish and completely out of touch aswel, sometimes I feel as though I live in a completely parallel reality from them

Attaboy. As a russian I can say you that we Successfully sh*t in your head

Had he been the PM now and talked like that we would find good motive to hide in bomb shelters already. Or rather emigrate to New Zealand.

Even more concerning is to know that all European and US leaders are the same minded. This arrogance will bring lots of trubbel for poor people :(

Yes. The real essence of the conflict. a) Russia wants to secure itself and its borders, wants to keep NATO away from its borders. b) Russia NEVER wanted to take over all of Ukraine. How the hell can Russia achieve the goals in point "a" WITHOUT taking over all of Ukraine? How can the capture of Kherson help keep NATO further from the borders? Ask Finland what impression this ingenious step made on them.

You're right about both of them. Especially about Norwegian fool.

He is Swedish, not Norwegian....

@@conorrowlands5093 He is still a "fool" in respect to how he perceives a nuclear threat

Euro trash elitist naive moron

They are no miopic he knows exactly what he IS doing he IS laying on porpuse he IS a board memner of the RAND corporation , nothing else needs to be said

We don't want to live under Russian rule, that's all.

@@stefanhetzel ok so dont blame russia for keeping itself safe , you dont want to live under china rusia rule you dont want to be their slave so you prefer to live under eeuu rule and be its slave , ok but dont destroy ukraine in order to do so and blame rusia , you dont care about democracy or human rights , you only side with eeuu in its war against china and in order to do so eeuu is capable of anything , destroy europe or wathever so take the consecuences of your decision

@@marianomarini775 I am living in the EU. We have democracy and human rights. Things that neither China nor Russia have. So what is your problem?

Do you have gas?

I mean Russia is the one literally invading a country because it doesn't like it not being a puppet, so I think you have that backwards

@@julesMorcinek Yeah, she was rather nasty...

@@szlevi Not nasty, just clueless, uninformed and incompetent. But well-intentioned but incapable people do some of the worst damage anyway.

It would never help his point of view to be outwardly confrontational or aggressive as it could easily be cast as a microcosm of a pro-Russian mindset with aggression and domination being the motivations.

Yes John did handled himself well considering it was two against one....

@@mensrea1251 More like overly opinionated, whilst simultaneously being under-informed.

So no longer use Frances pride Versaillis Palace because 100 years ago the politicians made bad decisions?

@@refuge42 No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that it should concentrate the mind and force leaders who use it to remember and act upon the lessons of history 🙂

Well said

Ah! yes. You are unfortunately 100% right. Man for the most part is a stupid animal who does not learn from his mistakes. Thu cunning who do know what is going on always react the same way - according to their interests.

​​@@user-np7st5mi1tThe lessons that should be learned from history are that you never appease an aggressive dictator. Neville Chamberlain "peace for our time" shows us that appeasers are naive. Aggressive expansionists only understand the language of force.

Bildt

Bildt doesn't know what he is talking about. He is a reader of a paper.That is all.

@@santoscota6380 Bildt conflates justifications with realism, consistently ignoring Meirsheimer's points about the latter. Not a good look.

The one who has things written down is more believable. The other guy just takes lies out of his own head.

One this meeting was held in English it would be different if maybe it was held in Norwegian and Meersheimer was expected to speak Norwegian. Also Meersheimer has been pumping out these contrarian theories for decades he's known for it it's more like he's running it tape machine than actually having a debate.

Frustrating to listen to someone outline such a clear and easy to understand argument just to be flippantly dismissed with bad faith arguments

Carl entity is worthless. A two bit punk layer. Democracy, democracy...by bombing, by theft,by debt, by misleading people to "liberation" wars, by promoting "freedom fighters"... He is a priest of Death cult in their "garden".

@@lucasmurphy740 Haha that arguments you need man? From your TV that propagate truth of WEST? I think Carl speak only water, John speaks about pure facts. NATO and EU try to play bad game and propogate to their peoples "We are good and Russians are bad", but if you see pure facts NATO did military training on Ukraine against Russia in 2021. It's realy funny than someone underestimate that fact. If your neighbour trying to shoot your portrait around your door i think you will be scared about it and kick his ass before he go to kill you next day. NATO don't need took Russia oppinion about situations thay don't give a fuck about that, they are simply pursuing our economic and political interests.

A Swede with prejudice. I thought - the Swede thinks like a Baltic (Latvian, Lithuanian). Even without knowing history and politics, some Balts, and even Poles, are prejudiced against Russians and even have hostile ones. And I'm talking about relations among peoples, not politicians. It was Mearsheimer who voiced it - historically it happened that way.

Such rethoric is Bildt master arena. He did not raise to fame for nothing. On the Board of Trustees for RAND Corporation, influential U.S government policy think tank.

He is an old fool who does not perceive counterarguments and facts that contradict his narrative.

We call him Prof. Marshmellow

@@thomaslee3 I think he would prefer John humbly. I think your suggestion would be more respectful 🙏

Je does not even know what he himself he saying. They don't even listen or even understand what John is saying.

Talk about it with Cuba, Panama, Venezuela

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Bilt seemed szitsophrinic

I’m trying to now follow The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth, ""thanks!

Between diplomatic realism and academic denial.

Not denial, he bets on time because of his free meals. Enslavering people in democracy, is the concept. No track of time in his one size fits all scenario

There is no realism starting with the assumption Russia is a great power. By all standards except old weapons, Russia is a mediocre country with very limited influence in the world.

It’s such a tragedy of errors. The leaders got too arrogant and Carl’s attitude here shows that. He is human and I don’t know what I would have done if I moved in those circles, but it’s a misfortune for all of us. The world is truly become very dangerous indeed because a small group became too insulated from reality

Bullying is how the real world works. Any time you've been taught otherwise was someone convincing you not to bully so they have less competition in their quest for dominance. When you are strong in geopolitics you do what you want, when you're weak you suffer what you must. I didn't write the rules, it's just the law of nature. It doesn't make you feel good but nature is amoral. Good ppl die everyday, it's a tragedy of life

All the same excuse….. fact is RuSSia is neoimperial state

it is very easy in countries such as Croatia and UKRAINE, since it was in these two countries during World War II. wars bigger pigs than the Nazis from Germany = Ustasha headed by Pavelic in Croatia and OUN headed by Bander and Sukchevich in Ukraine....these elements and their followers survived and live in these countries to this day, they know it well in the west, that's why it is easy to choose these groups of people, who then, with the help of the Western-oriented media, will draw people to their side against the Serbs, Russians, etc... this is a proven model of the West for years

@@nkosipwl what for you is a fact, is fake news for others....

Since when Ukrainians and Russians are "brothers". In Ukraine Russians have bad reputation because of their xenophobia and negative attitudes towards ethnic Ukrainians and Ukrainian state

@@xxvxxv5588, read USA reports on human rights about Ukraine.

Mearsheimer is truly the one that understands the complexity of this crisis. It seems the others are too close to get a distant perspective. Frankly, I only see a broade

However he cannot effect the “conventional wisdom” let alone change it. Narrative of the West piles up to form a belief.

@@MarioSaldanhaLobo Fake news