if I get stuck in this thing and peak out the door to see the tires arent even spinning 🤬 as somebody who relies on my CRV’s AWD system from time to time.

Agree. Must people who purchase a Prius care the must about mpg.

I don't think Its a traction control issue. It worked well in the front. But I really don't understand how nobody in Toyota can figure out the AWD. However I'd love to see it in the snow rather than rollers. I'm starting to think the software struggles specifically with the rollers. Not trying to defend it as other cars don't have that problem but this happening across the whole hybrid range.... I don't know, there must be something else happening that we don't know about. Still, really good looking and practical car. And as I said traction control looks pretty decent now so I would just go with the fwd and with the money I saved install some snow tyres and go on a ski trip to test them :D

In certain situations, this system fails exactly the same on rollers and on snowy roads.

​@pablomoreno1999 Snow tires aren't going to help, if the car can't transfer power to the wheels properly.

Yeah this is why I'm getting a Prius Prime instead. Plus it works out to be cheaper than the regular hybrid due to all the Federal/State EV tax incentives you can get for it (provided you lease to get the Federal incentive).

@@justinf79 For some people it may work out to be cheaper. Those tax intensives only work out if you actually owe that much in taxes. Its not like they cut you a check.

Snow tires do wonders indeed!

@@Subvaries That's not how it works anymore. Especially if you lease.

What about steep dirt roads? Snow tires don’t work when it’s 100 degrees in July on an Arizona dirt BLM road

They have a lot of vids on those vehicles going years back on the channel.

glad i'm not the only one who caught that! tires caught the edge of the roller hardware for grip, otherwise it would have been stuck. that test was a fail.

TIRES**

​@@user-do9ir8lv2m That is the American Spelling, British English spell it as Tyres. Both are technically correct but also incorrect lol

Well, given that he turned off the TC, and still couldn't complete the 3 roller test, I'm gonna say it's not the TC.

@@bavarianbanshee it might be a combination of both. There is a sequence you have to do to fully turn it off. Press start/stop twice, hit the gas pedal 2 full times etc etc. in any case the Prius traction control is terrible. I don't know why Toyota thinks cutting power is the right thing to do in that scenario

@@maverick7526 It's so the rear tires can't slip before the front tires and a Prius driver isn't confused by oversteer. Letting the rear tires slip a bit would provide better handling, but someone who had only driven front wheel drive might not consider it benign.

@@maverick7526 that's how you reset the maintenance light turning off traction is just a button.

@@sierratough4934 no in older Prius's that's how you fully turn off traction control. Hitting the button doesn't fully turn it off

He had it turned off. its because it cuts engine power.

Not useless. Not driven.

It everything but not useless! It's not for offroad and it actually works very well in the real world lol!!!

​@@alanmay7929I guess the TFL driveway is an alternate universe and reality. 🤡

How lol

@@wolfgangpreier9160 synonymous. The entire point of AWD is to power both axles. If an axle has no power it is useless.

Go buy actual AWD then like Subaru, stop whining

I grew up in the northern tip of Idaho, Priest Lake, i could be in canada in 30 min! Miss it every day! And yes, a decent AWD vehicle is reccomended!!

Just remember, if you need extra traction control, turn off traction control. Lol

I agree. The car is not the nicest thing out there.

this is telling in how the awd system gets you going from a stop.

Na. This test is better

Yes. Tommy misspoke. It is a 2.0l i4.

Yes it did pass the test regularly. I was pushing from behind. You can't see me. I am the Toyoda family ghost.

Why should they? Ppl going to buy it anyway. N most if not all those ppl will never need to use 'real' AWD

@@omi8822because your still paying for that. 36k is a lot for a fwd

Have you noticed new toyota quality is in the tank

It doesn’t, the rear axle is still an e-axle, but it’s 100hp instead 40hp in this car.

We just finally got our 2024 Prius Prime after a 21 month wait, a month ago. It's our third one but first plug-in. So far we love it. The Prius we traded in was the C model and it served us well for 12 years. One bother with it though was the Traction Control. Our winter climate here is best described as temperate. It hardly ever gets colder than -7 or -8 C (for those folks still using Imperial measuring, that's about 46 ~48 F), and days closer to 0 c (32F), are common. However, what this means is we generally get a lot of wet, heavy snow. And it's hard to believe how fast snow can accumulate. With the C model the Traction Control could not be switched off (unlike with our first Prius). So, when ever snow built up on our always hilly roads you weren't get anywhere. It refused to spin the front wheels. In reverse gear the TC did not work though so if you were lucky you might have been able to back your way out of trouble. The new Prime has a switch to defeat the TC thankfully. It needs to be pointed out; Traction Control in any car is not there for the purpose of getting your car "unstuck" from snow and such. It's designed to help the driver maintain control when the roadway is slippery by selectively increasing/decreasing torque to all the drive wheels and or, applying brake action to wheels independently with the aim of keeping your car under control.

Much better!

It isn’t similar, it’s the exact same drive train, just in a crossover form factor.

The Prius will always be an ugly car

@@SavoyPrimeableI had an LR4 in 2014 and while it may be decent looking, but it had catastrophic failures at 88k miles. I’ll take the ugly Toyota over another Land Rover any day.

@@SavoyPrimeablebeing so close-minded like that won’t get you very far in life

It's not the problems with rollers. Recently I made a video comparing the awd behaviour on rollers vs snowy road, system fails the same way.

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollersGood to see you here hehe!! I watched it actually, it was with the yaris cross... But this one has way more power on the rear plus TC seems a bit better... Maybe it's different i don't know. But yeah, it still needs sorting, i wouldn't expect it to suddenly become an audi quattro

@@pablomoreno1999 Good to see you to! Yes, it was Yaris Cross with 5 hp rear electric motor.

That's because a spare tire is supposed to go there. The foam is an afterthought.

That snow tire wont help you if they don't power up the rear motor when the front is stuck

​@@jack8356but snow tires will help your front not get stuck to begin with. I drove fwd sedans most of my Canadian life and with real snow tires I never really struggled in the snow. People who say you need AWD in the snow really are either just inexperienced or for some reason assuming everyone is offroading up unplowed forest roads in the winter.

So will snow tires on a rwd vehicle.

@@jack8356front tires don’t get stuck with snow tires

Reimburse you for what? They advertised this as an AWD drive vehicle not an off-roading vehicle. Crappy AWD aside both axles are powered, if it’s not good enough for you then get the FWD model, save some money, and have an added range benefit. Also if you plan on driving around in the snow you should have good set of snow tires anyway.

Is it also common sense to not use rear wheels when front ones are on ice?

Recently I made a comparison of system behaviour on snowy road and on rollers - it failed the same way.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers something is amiss here then. How are auto manufacturers testing? I know they have real world test mules in different climates. My experience over two years in the snow and ice aren’t indicative of the sentiments in the video test. This video would lead me to believe that the AWD system is ineffective and a waste of money. If I were a newly prospective buyer, a simple video like this could easily dissuade me from buying. However, as someone that knows better, I think it did more harm than good in demonstrating potential. Are we to believe what seems like objective testing or an automaker with a huge research and development budget? I have been a fan of roller tests for years, but now I question this methodology since my experience isn’t mirrored. I drive far more than the average user in these conditions, so I feel a little justified in my reasons; not just speaking to be contrarian.

@@User.Joshua Roller tests do not show full view. They show some certain, usually difficult situations for the system. It doesn't mean the system is entirely bad. But it may show the system is one of the worst on the market etc. My previous comment was about the system using rear Q510 1MM electric motor, which sometimes fails in real conditions even more then in roller tests.

It should have enough torque. It didn't look like it was even attempting to use the rear axle. That's a programming issue.

It’s the traction control. When he turns it off it works.

@@djplonghead5403 Except that turning off traction control helped in one of the scenarios, not all.

it provides benifit when the car is moving and on slippery conditions but just not in these extreme test scenarios. I do agree that you are most likely better off getting the fwd version and maximizing your gas savings. I would love to see a wet test track test a slalom and a figure 8 on the awd prius versus the front wheel drive. Also 0-60 of the fwd and the awd.

@@BassRacerx I think I’d rather just put snow tires on a FWD Prius for the few months of the year most might actually benefit from an AWD car (if the AWD system were up to snuff).

@@davidc-l9174 i don't subscribe to the all Wheel drive and all seasons mentality. However I live in south alabama where there is zero snow so you can run all seasons or even summer tires 365 days a year.

Nah, these rollers don’t simulate real world conditions properly. I own a previous gen AWD Prius and the new plug-in version. I live in New England with tons of ice and snow in the winter. The AWD has performed well on stock all season tires. I have experienced many scenarios where people nearby in SUVs and trucks need a push and I simply drive around them. Not sure where this test fails in replicating low traction scenarios, but it’s not indicative of how it actually performs with AWD.

@@User.Joshua Thanks, good to hear. I grew up in NH and went to college in VT, now living in IN, wife is a Hoosier. I miss all the snow and ice we used to get. Dad tough me to drive in snow on a hill in Brattleboro VT back in 1975 ... the good old days.

its eCVT ..it doesn't have belts..its all gears..i agree..hte back drive motor is pointless stupidity.

😊

Or maybe 1WM stands for “1 wimpy motor”?