*Never Trust 343. Always Trust 2001-2010 Bungie.*

*Halo 3 & Reach Better Than Halo Infinite.*

*Do you believe in the Propaganda of the Demons of Today? Or is it true legendary nostalgia of the classic oldies? the choice is yours.*

3:07 Crowbcat Legendary Video: Remember Halo.

I used it. Thanks.

Factual statement lol

@@TheosakeTechnically its his sister and the new DLC that is Lightfall is hilariously bad but the seasonal content is somewhat better than the DLC itself, there ya go

@@TheosakeI played it for the first time in over a year earlier today and I’ll be honest, it’s pretty samey this far, but I wasn’t around during taken kind so I don’t really know just how much has been added and such, but right now it’s not looking pretty im just staying around till the final shake just for the story even though it’s been mid at best even though I doubt that will change

@@Theosakewitch queen campaign was phenomenal, but lightfall this year is complete ass.

I play destiny 2 and this is very much the case.

Ha, “3 4 3”

Ultimately Microsofts fault. HOW the same management survived 2 failed flagship titles in a row and was allowed a 3rd attempt is beyond the understanding of logical humans everywhere 😂

CO OP with a friend was the true heart of halo. And it was axed. That was truly sad. Was planning on getting Halo 4 to 6 in one go. But oh well. Halo 3 was truly the end. And I am willing to accept that.

@@praetorian3902 "343" sounds the same as "3 for 3" which is way of saying they have *missed* 3 shots out of 3 shots they've taken.

Absolute stellar irony that fits so well with what's been happening.

They didn’t even crash it they just shredded it

They glassed it.

Just like Disney with star wars

Converted the golden lambo into a Honda Civic that occasionally goes above 40 mph

@@AmazedBunion so disappointing to hear

Lol WTF Did they intend to turn the entire playerbase into the most absolute dogshit toxic players in the universe ? 😅

@@NKWittmann it's not real :( i checked

@@NKWittmann even though the screenshot was fake. it absolutely made people worse at the game, hunting missions instead of fulfilling the match objective. glad they changed it though, feels like my teamates are actually doing the objective now lol

@@NKWittmann Obvious joke, buddy :)

hahaha I didn't see that but this video has a lot of funny easter eggs like that. i rarely laugh or even finish videos on youtube. this was well done.

That's short termism for you. Management at so many gaming studios suck so much ass it's just becoming ridiculous now. Cyberpunk was another victim, as was Mass Effect Andromeda. God knows what the next Dragon Age will be like. I'm so desperate to wanting Starfield to be good too, hoping Microsoft has learned some lessons on cheapening out games development and left Bethesda be without too much interference. Pencil pushers have no idea how game development works and are simply crunching numbers to save as much money as they can _now_ rather than spend a little bit more for that bigger payoff. They treat this industry like the fast food one, and it shows. Larian Studios's Baldurs Gate 3 is what happens when the devs are actually in charge of everything. I hope they resist the temptation to sell themselves out to whatever games publishers coz they all suck. End rant.

tech debt

No, no you see-- it did save money over the short term period that whoever was making the decision was working there. They then leave the company saying "I was able to save X dollars through prudent management methodologies at X." and go do the same thing for a couple years somewhere else.

@@necro4258 jesus christ

Short sighted company. Always screwing things up. They're disorganized and bloated. They are never innovative, always reactive... and that's why they always fail. I wish they never bought Rare.

Bruh exactly, who thought 343 was a good title for the studio lmao these guys never understood Halo from the very beginning

@@wlot28should’ve called themselves the gravemind ffs

The schizo rampant AI? It fits... 😂

@@hanslanda8303or The Covenant

(prophet of) Regret Industries

Reach was a prequel not the end to the saga

@@teenageleafzer0876 the series died with Reach. There is nothing more to say.

​@feartheoldblood Halo 4 was one of the best Halos and had the most in-depth stories that only real fans understood. You sound like a pathetic child feeling sorry for themselves.

@@feartheoldblooddelusional

@@jrfirefiher you just like shitty games

It's okay, the culture and personality they had before Infinite was one of extreme smugness, condescension and generally just douchebag-esque, so nothing of value was lost there

Lmfao the absolute delusion of you absolute basement dwellers in the halo community, has become beyond pathetic. Halo infinite, is the best halo has ever been. Period. It's got the best gameplay. The characters are outright superior. Their story telling is better. Their gunplay is better. Their sandbox is superior. Halo infinite has the most maps in the entire series. The most modes. The best forge.

@@nagger8216 I don't think that's what the "culture" he was referring to.

It's amazing that a bunch of contractors made a better halo than 343 tho

Blame Microsoft.. It's them who make devs hire contractors cuz they don't wanna hire full time employees.

I'm a website developer and fully understand how this could have crippled 343. They had no idea what they were doing once those contractors left. Downloading the banner image millions of times on the loading screen?? My goodness what a mess

What does that have to with being a help desk tech lol

343 knew what Microsoft's policy was. Hell, they were born out of Microsoft. This is entirely a 343 problem for not planning their only product properly. They had ONE JOB and they screwed it from the get-go.

@@kennypowers1945He’s relating his experience of being a contractor to let us know that when you’re a contractor you won’t produce the same “labour of love” type work that a permanent, diligent worker would.

as always it is a management false where you tell them it is a bad idea but they simply don't care, because their spreadsheet says something else I'm working as a developer and most of projects fail because of delusional management that do not listen to more experienced people, and also huge budget cuts in places where there should be no budget cuts (mostly the QA part)

Not the ENTIRE industry; check out indy developers like Hinterland (The Long Dark), Hooded Horse (Against the Storm) and Bellular Studios (The Pale Beyond) to see great games at a good price and dedicated, ethical developers with a long-term commitment. There seems a particular issue with FPS type games which require huge investment and have massive hype attached to them; hype which is rarely justified.

@@chriswarburtonbrown1566 true, there are those that still put the effort in. I just wish it was still the norm, not the exception

@@chriswarburtonbrown1566long dark came out like 10 years ago, I played it as a kid lmao. Indie is just as bad but it does have more stand outs I suppose

It's not the Devs man, don't blame the code monkeys. The money grubby execs are the fucking problem

I mean all you need to look at is the majority of semi successful indies to find good put together games at launch

The main issue seemed like microsoft fumbling it with hiring contractors, and whoever decided any cosmetic option should cost money

@@gunmetalgrey7103 and ya know, garbage gameplay, horrible optimization, basic features not working or even being present. Ya know. Just basic issues.

@@bldontmatter5319Video says gameplay is solid. What is it, bad or good?

​@@bldontmatter5319Garbage gameplay is one issue Infinite didn't have. The problem was there wasn't enough game to play IN. That and the bugs.

ADS, sprint, mantling, and sliding just doesn't belong. It's a point of contention but you see a lot of OG fans don't like it; new fans enjoyed the additions. Don't know if that answers your question but it really depends on who you ask.

Microsoft don't care anymore, they're about to buy Call of Duty whole.

@@ObviouslyKieran And turn it into another Halo fiasco I’m sure.

@@SpectorEuro4 They have Treyarch at least but they fixed the old games servers.

@ObviouskyKieran, anyone thinking that M$ buying Activision is a good thing is setting themselve for a rude awakening. Everything they touch is ruined, always. They are like EA and Activision that they run everything to the ground and that studios they buy end shutting down. They are terrible, lol.

I'd like this comment, but you have 343 likes. IRONY.

idiocracy level stupidity

Cooperate

Marty is the GOAT.

Oh, yeah, that happened with Takashi Iizuka over at SEGA and Sonic Team.

Yeah that's dev taking about how "halo's always been a competitive game at its core starting all the way back from the first game" was talking wayyy too "hip cool corporate" for that to actually be his belief... Yeah people wanted that poor guy to be fired, I am of the belief that's what someone above wanted him to say...

@@navb0tactual Nah I actually believe that Sean Barron believes that

Unfortunately they’re not the only big organisation to do that. :(

12:04 “kinda corny right”

I mean after a whole trilogy ppl don't generally expect to see another 15 years of sequels. Especially since the trilogy was p complete on its own. I remember when reach came out ppl were on the fence as to whether the prequel was warranted.

Halo 3 was my first real video game. I had grown up playing Sonic, Mario, Smash Bros, Wii Sports, etc, but when I went to my aunt's house and played Halo 3 on my uncle's Xbox at around 7 years old, I was hooked. My parents had to pry me from the controller to get me home that night, and for a few years I begged my parents to get me an Xbox. Fortunately for me I got one for my ninth birthday, whereupon I invited a friend over from 3rd grade and we drank soda, ate chips, and farted around on the same map in a custom lobby for nearly 9 hours straight. Games just don't feel the same anymore. I often wonder if it's the games or me that have changed.

You forgot halo 3: ODST and halo reach

Who would think something so simple as fucking blue would be 20 dollars and locked to a single core.

​@@dingus6317both. Weve all gotten older so we have much more to compare it to, aswell as gaming just not being the same. To expensive, to sweaty, boring maps and repetitive gameplay.

I genuinely want everyone at 343 studios to meet the leshen on your profile picture in real life during a night walk in the woods

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@@MatthewShepmost staff at 343 quit and some of the only people working on infinite are freelancers, everybody jumped ship once it released

​@@l.m.l8598for the past 6 months we've gotten a decent staff that provided alot of needed content, if they add a pre game lobby with firefight hall infinite will literally be better than most games today

Hey choom, gotta support that games as a service idea! How else are we supposed to pump money into them in the hopes they make a good game?

But who else will think of the shareholders :(

Its amazing that they just hired contractors to build them an Engine. So>... Before, during and after building the engine and not a single person knows how to use it.

​@@Vanished584Yeah that's one of the biggest head scratchers for me. If you're going to hire contractors for such a big project why the fuck would you have them do one of the most important things instead of just the grunt work? Especially when they had a revolving door of contractors all doing patchwork on it. That's main team shit; you leave the contractors to either ASSIST with that in terms of helping fine-tune it or just leave them to more general stuff so your main team doesn't have to near abandon the thing you've wasted four years and a decent bit of money on. It's so unbelievably short-sighted and smooth-brained that you'd think someone from a rival company snuck in and switched which teams did what, with no one bothering to ask which dumbass was responsible for it.

They don't consider the work. Imagine firing a Nasa team of engineers or doing that in any (serious) industry ? Anyone with the skills can do a game, but it takes a miracle to make the best. They don't understand that

Women take accountability? LOL

​@@FatalDreidel cringe

​@@FatalDreidel it isnt their strongsuit.

1 word - Microsoft

​@@TheMADmkand people somehow still think microsoft will fix actiblizz if they manage to acquire it

@@TheMADmk Sure, its on Microsoft when 343 is given $500+ million to make Halo content and fails to reach even the base level of content present at launch back in 2007. And don't forget that the TV show is Kiki Wolfkill's baby - 343 literally had full creative control over the series and look what they gave us!

​@@TheMADmkThe problem is more Microsoft's hands off nature. It used to be Microsoft was to micromanaging but then fans complained, so they bought Mojang and completely left the Game Division on their own. A new CEO comes in and doesn't understand anything about gaming because he's a cloud guy but acquisitions make sense. So slowly Microsoft buys a company and then another. And here we are. It's been proven that Microsoft can manage a game studio good, look at Playground Games, Double Fine and Mojang. The problem relies in the fact that Microsoft left them be and they ran perfectly. When you look at Undead Labs though, they needed help and they didn't get it. To quote one anonymous employee of undead labs, when Microsoft bought us we were afraid that they would change our culture and suffocate us, instead we did that to ourselves.

@@lifeguardpanda That's phil spencer's Xbox, let studios run themselves instead of trying to right the ship, but that's left their studios to create absolute garbage like arkane with redfall and 343 with infinite having no direction or coherent strategy across their platform. He needs to step in when studios are clearly struggling and restructure their management while leaving the functioning ones alone, otherwise dumpster fires will continue to be developed with no oversight. 343 needs to be cleaned out entirely, or just give the Halo license to more than one studio so Halo fans don't have to keep suffering through 343's terrible decisions and lack of understanding or passion about what actually makes Halo good. Until then this franchise will never see another inch of its past glory again

Yep, killed my hype with those words and I didn’t bother. That and I don’t do stuff with 👩‍💼 studio heads. Not gonna bother with something so incompetent that it let someone like Bonnie Ross lead it for 10 years. Then it goes F2P and live service. No idea why people let themselves be fooled by a CGI trailer.

10 year plan, they said. Then they cancelled any and all story content and turned more and more people away from the multiplayer

It was for anyone who wasn’t a delusional 343 fanboy.

Everybody that wasn’t huffing copy him did see that. If you said anything like that online though people called you a Bungie Fanboys

​@@sunlitsonata6853It reminds me of Destiny's 10 year plan.

whoever did that probably doesnt even know philosophy of working with in-house engine and hiring contractors, they were probably more concerned with saving money

@@gots0359the people in charge speak binary basically. It’s either + or -

yeah like remember anthem was supposed to last ten years and that went well

Gearbox in 2016 with 'Battleborn' scrapped and moved onto Borderlands 3, another (not total) fucking disaster, Then New tales came out. We dont talk about New tales in these parts.

Destiny comes to mind too. Granted they still have some following, but not nearly as big as it makes out and was supposed to be from their pitch of conception.

Looking at Bungie with Destiny

because they’re subtly telling you that it’s gonna take a full 10 years for it be good lmao

I'm not honestly sure that you can argue the gameplay is the hard part. The gameplay they had countless previous titles and a known working formula to work off of. It would have taken extreme incompetence to mess that up. But making a story and campaign that feels well-written or impactful in any way? That sort of thing is harder. Most of their flaws though seem to be on the business side of things. They basically removed features Halo is known for - not even implementing basic campaign co-op at launch (despite that being in since the very first Halo) - yet still apparently had the budget and time to add live service features that nobody asked for except their corporate overlords.

@echomjp Yeah I've always felt like the "great gameplay" everybody praises are just those aspects that every Halo game has had, and have been done better in the past. Hundreds of people can parrot "great gameplay no content", but they'll rarely mention specifics.

@@Dillman502nah halo infinite’s gameplay is the best halo gameplay wise hands down. No debate to be had.

​@@DonovanGG__"best gameplay" 😂😂😂

@@WonderMePartyStrip 👨🏿‍🌾

Meanwhile Arrowhead manages to make a way better game that some are calling "the Halo killer" (it definitely gives me the feeling that firefight used to back in halo reach) for around 500k which is 1/1000th the cost. The first three halo games likely costed less combined than halo infinite.

Hey at least the public doesn't shit on him after all said and done

Well if it wasn't for him.. the game wouldn't have recovered in the last year.. His position in Halo infinite was always temporary from the start.. And now his job is done.. can go back to his old position in Microsoft studio

​@@charlescabbage2933He's no longer with Microsoft, I think as far back as April.

​​@@512TheWolf512I think it was disgustingly obvious to everyone involved, from the people at 343 recording those videos to the people watching them, what was really going on and I don't think there's anybody out there that doesn't feel sorry for Joe having to put up with that bullshit. It actually pisses me off seeing the fanboys constantly make excuses for this company and go on about how "they're just people too! 😢" when this is the company we're talking about. Fuck these people and fuck this disgusting, manipulative studio

So

Wait did he say this?

how do u know that?

Completely talking out of your ass.

Sauce?

I thought he contributed to basically rewriting and salvaging infinites story after they delayed it again, that’s why it’s so choppy hit somewhat halo, he did his best

He... said that? He talked about it in the first part of this

@@Jiub_SN See people do this dumb thing of pausing the video the moment they hear something they can "URM ACTUALLY!!!!!!" comment at, they then unpause and see they have been a dumbass. This dumbass forgot to remove their comment.

and your point is?....

point is 343 is trash

Honestly, I don't have enough fingers to count on my hands how much dirty mischievous cunning tricks they've pulled since launch, horrible studio

​@@ReachTeabruh not ass bad destiny 2 Bungie I'll be honest.

@@dinosaurbros8908my brother on Christ comparing shit to shit still makes it shit.

@@dinosaurbros8908 what the fuck did you just say?

Ong

Blame that on microsoft. What 343 games before Halo ? Nothing. They doesnt earn Halo.

@@the13thjokerI'd rather blame it on the people who actually make these games. Plenty of AAA studios deal with terrible publishers and shitty management, and yet outside of maybe 2042, almost none of them have ever been as shit as all three 343 games. 343 have also changed creative and design leads for every game, including writers and gameplay development leads. That they couldn't get it right after three tries shows they'll never get it right. Microsoft doesn't manage its studios properly, but 343 are simply uniquely terrible at game development. A studio propped up by corporate nepotism, desperately recruiting any idiot with game design qualifications they can, and trying on low quality contractors. I'll be very surprised if 343 even still exist in another 2-3 years now that Microsoft own Call of Duty. Why waste $500 million on a single mediocre Halo game that underperforms when that kind of money can fund three Call of Duty games that are guaranteed successes every time?

Literally

Sales wise, they did succeed with Halo 4 and Infinite, though that generally came from the Hype from Halo 3 and Infinite's marketing

When the company doesn’t realize they have made mistakes. It’s next to impossible to fix them

The irony of switching to unreal engine is simply unreal.

They don’t think they’re mistakes, that’s why they hold the fans in contempt They want to keep their cushy jobs

When they have enough money to absorb the losses it doesn’t matter to them. Anybody who think the Microsoft merger is good in anyway for the consumer is dreaming.

Bethesda has been failing upwards since oblivion

But why would you want to have social features in an online game? What if someone says something offensive and hurts someone's feelings? Better to just have no communication at all. Its way better playing with complete strangers in dead silent lobbies

I'm willing to deal with a legion of squeakers screaming the n-word just for the chance to meet that one guy on the lobby you vibe with.

@zechariahpalie1435 It’s nothing to do with protecting people’s feelings and everything to do with protecting 343’s anti-consumer monetisation strategies. If the game was at all social, people could help each other boost to complete the shitty challenges, and progress their shitty battlepass without having to buy their shitty challenge swaps or XP boosts. Just like having to pay for individual colours, it’s another area where the game has taken a massive step back to support the shitty Free2Play model no one asked for.

@@zechariahpalie1435this is exactly why 343 is like this. its the PC snowflake mentality

Welcome to MODERN gaming Lmao

Especially if you replace the people MAKING THE GAME ENGINE every couple of months(contractors)

​@@lorenzooliveira1157😂😂😂 couldn't have nailed it better

Also great proof that corporatizing artistic expression literally takes the soul out of it. The franchises life is a fantastic representation of what has happened to AAA gaming over the last 2 decades.

So, the same logic as the terminator or star wars films

It's the ship of Theseus paradox in effect.

The fact that BF2042 launched broken af and still has more players than Halo Infinite goes to show how badly they dropped the ball.

Halo died with Reach. 343's Halo is not Halo.

@@FutaCatto2fr they made a cod game then a titan fall game and now they made fortnite and it didn’t go well for them so hopefully the next halo game is actually a halo game

@@zacvhhow is halo infinite fortnite my brother

@@xninewxw7559 they literally removed color selection to be able to resell them as skins like in fortnite they have the item shop and battle pass

Dude, ODST and Reach kicked ass.

Fr? Damn

Reaches progression was AMAZING because ANYTHING you did gave you money. I would sit on my couch grinding 10 minute forge games where I just place as many blocks as possible and then quit because it gave more credits than the average 15 minute Slayer match did for a good long while. You could play custom games purely offline with local splitscreen and everyone would gain credits on their accounts. It really was THE best progression system we have ever seen in the gaming industry. Full stop. Bar none.

Reach was the peak halo for me, obviously its standing on the shoulders of giants, but reach felt like an actual evolution of the halo universe, the story, the art style, it was all actual refinement of the universe.

Yeah the best progression system of all time in any game ever - for people who are satisfied with meaningless cosmetics.

@@VikingKong. they arent meaningless to most, it paves freedom of expression and personalisation which for for most is a mechanic that keeps people playing the game

​@@VikingKong.buddy havin my OWN spartan be in campaign was cool af

I’m fucking dyingggg 😭😭😭😭

@@fraughtmonster8 good perish

Personally im not a fan of tiktok brain editing

​​​@@fraughtmonster8 If he's been able to keep his job for this long, then that means his audience retention somehow isn't.

Reaction channels should’ve been banned years ago

its not that the store itself works perfectly, its the part where you pay the money that works perfectly, the part where you get your items... maybe... maybe not

In otherwords, they put more effort into the store than the actual game. "The comestics don't affect the gameplay" my A$$....

Just like ads on youtube running better than videos

Fallout 76: ‘we’re the exception!’

Reply 5, unless you're Fortnite

same.

It really isn’t that serious

It can't get much worse than this, this is rock bottom. We have hope that Microsoft actually change shit up, get rid of their execs like Nelson who don't care enough to fire their literal friends, and use id Software to build the next Halo.

My buddy's and I had a blast playing ranked all weekend and doing custom games. Halo is in a better place now just boot it up and play.

The ending made me so fucking sad ::(

All ab perspective. Absolutely great way to look at it

Preach friend! Had to get married and have kids after all that disappointment.

@@crimzn872 😂🤣

You can never accuse Micheal of not being passionate enough

Genuinely

Michael Scott cared for his employees. Michael Scott delivered results.

What does bonono mean;

​@@stell2cycle764it's a species of chimpanzee

@@stell2cycle764it’s a monkey

the excuse they gave was that the software they use to name items in the game is called "Bonobo" and they forgot to name the BLM emblem so it was named Bonobo by default

​@@stell2cycle764Bonobo is a type of ape. Uncertain if you know, but calling a black person 'ape' or 'monkey' is seen as a slur.

Facts, he didnt care about diversity he wanted people like him, who cared about halo

It's the most expensive game of the franchise so why have contractors?

@@kewpiedie5115yeah, it’s wild. It really does go to show how far greed in the company went. I honestly think that the gaming industry can get away with essentially whatever now due to the current popularity of games. Essentially almost regardless of the quality of the content put out, there will always be a demand for it. Sucks for the fans, but it seems to have become the norm.

​@@aliciaserrano9698yeah, the thought the same crap a few decades ago too

@@aliciaserrano9698 The unfortunate reality is that consumers are stupid. The majority of the gaming market now tolerates it, they're the regular people who come home and play for maybe an hour or two a week or on the weekend with their squad, don't think critically about the game at all, don't really care either. Your average gamer now (the target demographic) are people who want cinematic experiences in their games, etc, etc. AAA transformed so drastically in the last 13 years and not for good: so many games are just movies, everything is becoming an open world snorefest, convoluted stories with terrible writing and too many cutscenes. The market is completely saturated with Action RPGS, FPS, and third person shooters, most of which play the same, and companies release the same games over and over with "remasters" and "remakes" within a span of a few years of the game coming out. Companies like Bethesda realized they can release a game and regardless of what state it's released in, they can patch it to completion, people will give them shit tons of money, and any negative press will blow over pretty quickly. Look at Fallout 76: that game makes more in a month than what some new games make in their release week. The big companies have 0 incentive to change their behaviour because negative press doesn't hurt them and long term people will buy the games and then dive into the microtransaction shops and buy shit.

You can exclusively thank 343 for that.

@@zachrohler1047microsoft*

Microsoft can’t handle a basic game but we better have blind allegiance towards their AI and vaccines

Yeah the core gameplay is amazing it's the content and everything else that they fucked up....

This MIGHT seem unrelated but it seems Microsoft are pulling out this old playbook again for the new FORZA MOTORSPORT. If anyone has been following the PR around this game and its appearance at Gamescon this week, you'll notice some very curious similarities between Turn 10 and 343 Industries. Its annoying how benign Microsoft are a head company.

Been playing since Halo CE, gave up after Halo 4. I still play Halo a lot but just the classic games on MCC. Literally beat the Halo 3 campaign again with a friend a couple of days ago. No matter how many times I beat those games, I always have A LOT of fun with them.

I gave up at halo 4, tried 5 and infinite but 343s halos are just shit. Love Bungies halos and still play them all the time on mcc

Confirmed, I bought the OG Halo release day. Now it is pure sh!t

no they have not and never will

Yup. Halo is dead after 5 and Infinite just peed on the corpse. A dull, incomplete, unexciting mess of a project. You know why half the game is free to play? Because it's not worth paying for! 343 should be renamed 404 because there's no good games to be found.

Don't think 343 was making that decision. Microsoft is the issue

​@@amcke09you act like they're two separate things

At the largest point 343 had around 750/800 developers. That's a massive team! It's not a question of labor, it's a question of incredibly poor leadership and management. When Microsoft... *checks notes* Decided to see where the f$çķ their money is going they fired the entire management team and cleared house of every senior developer they brought in. 343 mismanaged development so horribly they're scraping their 10 year project, probably closing the studio, and continuing development with another in house studio.

​@@craftsmanceramics8653OP didn't say the problem was having too few devs. It's the constant rotation of them to avoid having to sign them on as proper employees. It doesn't matter how many devs you have when literally none of them have more than a year's worth of experience with your niche, one of a kind engine.

Wouldn’t matter, all you need to do is make a basic fucking halo game 343 just keeps trend chasing, the chased cod in halo 4, they chased the loot boxes and cod again in halo 5, and in infinite they tried to chase the spam of f2p games that have 0 content but ‘it’s ok cuz all dlc is free!’ So long as 343 keeps chasing trends they will fail, they will always fail.

What's really interesting though, she is the reason halo kept kicking. Microsoft didn't even know what to do with halo when bungie left

☕️ ☕️

she gives pretty mid bj's

​​@@MysteryTmen, am i right, giving inexperienced people jobs they're not ready for

They followed a political agenda fueled by greed rather then actually picking the right person for the job. regarless of the sex, you should look at someones actual qualities, not what is between thier legs. It could have been another woman, but not Bonnie Ross, as you said, i doubt she even knows what teabagging is.... Yeah well, nice results lmao. At least it's funny to see 343i and MS making weak excuses (mY Ui Has AuTisM) and desperately holding up the corpse of a dead franchise. They are so in denial of the whole situation, it's like a family drama playing right before your very own eyes.

Deadass thought exactly that when he said it, damn

lol

Prometheans (grrrr)

I never would’ve guessed that they were hiring short term contractors to build an entire AAA game because it’s so insanely stupid. There’s a reason other studios don’t do that, for the same reason you wouldn’t fire the guy that installed your first floor electrical in your new house and hired a complete random guy that had to be trained on the job for months to do the second floor. It’s such a moronic strategy to save money that I feel I have become dumber just knowing about it 🤦🏽‍♂️

I'm sorry to say but this very much is the standard of modern AAA gaming companies - and is also why theres been such a drastic slump in quality

@@TheCyanWoolthe standard of any modern tech company really.

Mfw

Especially when you blast through the missions with tank gun

Yeah teasing about the endless something worse then the flood, then NO ENDLESS. BRUH. So stupid.

@@SgtBean Honestly them being touted as worse than the Flood was already a terrible decision.

@@JustSomeDinosaurPerson Yeah, honestly, that whole speech from the Endless Lady felt like amateur dialogue writing. I'm genuinely unconvinced anything's worse than the fecken Flood. Especially when you've watched so much HiddenXperia Flood lore videos like myself, lmao. For clarification though, I do mean video game lore-wise. If we're adding written lore, then I really don't think they're worse than Flood lol.

@drmigly yeah, pacience is the key

The way games are made now it will never be the same as those good old days. Back then a game was made at a set price, so developers wanted to make something fun that would stick with you. Now with micro transactions and game passes, developers are just making games designed to stretch our pockets. Unfortunately the gaming industry is pretty shit now, with the odd exceptions like baldurs gate.

Agreed. I’m happy with what we got to experience. I’m also happy I didn’t play this hot mess.

​@drmiglyid software would be perfect. Most devs who made Doon 2016 and doom external didn't even touch the older games but they looked at what made them great and made 2 amazing games. I think they can do the same with halo

Man the copium and rose tinted glasses is strong with this one

Yes, can't believe how they let the studio survive.

They’ve deserved it since halo 4

Fire343

This is what Microsoft does with every product they have. They cut corners to save money whenever possible, even if it is to the detriment to their users.

The best punishment would be to give everyone there their own dedicated Kiwi Farms threads.

You almost got me in the first half ngl

*Certified 343 moment

paladins is fun tho

​@@Tuxedo512it's also mismanaged to hell and back

prob why the next devs who took over had no idea how to even build on the same engine lmao.. they just did whatever they wanted to, got the 18 month pay and said kiss my ass microsoft lol or something along those lines

​@@erbzGood for those programmers, tbh. If you want talented employees, treat them like full time employees.... not contractors, lmao. 343 and Microsoft obviously have never heard of "You get what you pay for"

​@@erbzGood for those programmers, tbh. If you want talented employees, treat them like full time employees.... not contractors, lmao. 343 and Microsoft obviously have never heard of "You get what you pay for"

​@@erbzit's so much harder working on a half made project with no info than starting a new project from scratch. They should have just treated the existing code as a resource library, use any working parts, and otherwise rewrite the rest.

Yup, just make the spaghetti code work, and the next guy has to deal with it. 😂

You made the right decision to trust your gut feeling, you have been spared from a Hell I would not wish on anyone.

exactly. I still think one of the biggest issues the industry faces, especially for AAA games is the fact that while their are tons of people who would love to work in game development, so many of them are driven away from the industry or never even pursue it in the first place because of how poorly the workers are treated and all the horror stories you hear about the work environment at these studios. so many talented people just go to other industries with more job security, better work environments, and better pay. It's the kind of negative externality that I dont think anyone is really tracking or paying attention to, but something that seriously impacts the whole industry. and reduced the size and overall quality of the available talent pool.

Microsoft doesn't know how to be innovative. They are reactive and just copy or buy what works for other companies and proceed to ruin it. The Xbox controller was a Dreamcast copy, the Zune copied iPod, the Surface copied the iPad, not to mention the Microsoft store copying the Apple Store's entire motif. They just suck. They're short sighted and boring. It's a crime how they ruined Rare. The makers of GoldenEye and Perfect Dark reduced to Kinect games? 😢

​@DP12321 well that's because dreamcast was literally the direct precurser to xbox. It wasn't stolen design, it was SEGA backing out of the dreamcast due to its failure and Microsoft picking it up.

@@Iodestarr Those dealings fell apart. There were rumors Xbox would be backwards compatible with Dreamcast but nothing of the sort took place. There were business dealings such as DC running Windows CE, but that was barely utilized. Many (including myself) viewed Xbox as the Dreamcast 2 but there was nothing official in the regards.

​@@DP12321And in that same vein you have Sony with little Big Planet, Infamous, etc etc

@@305backup I'm not sure what point you are trying to make? Are you saying Sony is boring now because they don't use LBP and Infamous anymore?

I used to participate in LAN parties during the Halo CE days, but I never expected that would be the pinnacle of Xbox multiplayer lol

Gaylo was always trash compared to Quake, CS, etc.

Yeah those days are over. Sad

@@JPNEETozakiare you seriously tryna have that discussion in 2023

Im a bit younger than that (22), but even me and my friends would always play halo 3 and halo reach LAN parties. Good times

"Good riddance" was an understatement the day we learned she was out

Isn’t it odd every latest destruction of a series is headed by a female

@@dragonsdynamite6403 Uh... that's not even slightly true. Can you please crawl back into whatever hole you came out of? Sexism doesn't make you some badass edgelord.

@@BronzeAgePepper I just can't believe it took this long. EVERY single Halo game had a botched development and launch under her leadership. I'm convinced she must have fucked Phil Spencer or something to get to where she was and was threatening him with blackmail over it not to fire her.

@@dragonsdynamite6403don’t be like that. An entire gender is not to be judged upon the diversity-blind mistakes of huge corporations. There are many hardworking, intelligent, and creative female game devs in the industry that we just don’t hear about. It is an example of selection bias that we pay most attention to the leadership of failing ventures, and put extra scrutiny on such female leadership due to their novelty. Please befriend some women and have an open mind to their perspectives.

Ha! I was gonna say this; now I don't have to. That quote is SO pertinent in every element of life.

Except they've been the villain long enough to get a redemption arc. Season 5 has *finally* pulled it all together, in the same fashion MCC was pulled from death

@@hashbrown777 naw man. It's still trash. They have a very long road to go still until they are anywhere near a redemption arc

That saying doesn’t make any sense. Mario is what - more than twice as old as Halo? Mario Odyssey is seen as the best 3d Mario by many. Not to mention tears of the kingdom et c.

Why are you acting like this is Microsoft first time doing this Left 4 dead Gears of war Scalebound Fable Rare It’s just what they do best

@@johnnycage6676 Left 4 Dead is Valve Not Microsoft

but muh diversity

@@Sentinel_ICBM lol

I feel like 343 is just so ban-happy. Did it happen to a lot of you?

diversity hire. had to be.

Facts!!! Atleast for the OG fans

Okay but why would you want it to be bad

​@@TheJayson8899he didn't lol

because they are stupid

​@@TheJayson8899Some man...just want to watch the world burn

I don't get it either. My guess is mediocre standards and having no principles. Probably no self-respect since having principles comes from self-respect. Maybe for the same reason that lots of men simp for women. What about you, do you have a guess on why consumers will still pay money to the same company that has screwed them in the past ? (we're talking about the same thing here, I just phrased it differently)

so your opinion is invalid then?

@@andrewmcmahon4028You don't need to eat shit to know what it tastes like, 343 have been a laughing stock in the overall gaming industry since Halo 4.

Look man.. It was all bad leadership and corporate bullshit that really let this game down.. There were plenty of devs who were passionate to make the game great... Now we're finally getting what is needed..

Play halo

@@andrewmcmahon4028lmao salty fanboy found

I wanna live in that world so bad.

elden ring

Baldur's gate 3 although the gameplay is not everyone's cup of tea.

Boo fucking hoo. God forbid a D&D game actuslly plays like d&d for once

Octopath traveler 2.