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for Valk , she should lean more into the Northstar , would be sick to see her get a flight core ultimate

Mirage is a tricky one. Theyve changed the behavior of his abilities several times already, and every change has been effective... at first. The problem is once people learn the new behaviors, they stop getting fooled. So they have to keep changing him just for him to be viable.

Ballistic buff idea: the third weapon increases rarity based of the backpack you’re holding, so if you’re holding a blue backpack, the weapon has blue attachments.

Vantages passive is lowkey one of the best in the game lol. Being able to scan squads and see their numbers / shield level is super useful when deciding how to take fights

I think loba is high b tier, mostly for ranked. Her being a support legend and having one of the safest movement tacticals makes her pretty good in my opinion. I do agree that she needs more slots in her ultimate.

Loba in C tier next to damn lifeline is a bad take, especially when someone like caustic is in B. Shes one of the best solo queue legends, top tier rat, support so you can craft banners, never worry about ammo, get free armor swaps in buildings etc Crazy take imo

I think fuses grenade rocket jump idea can be different depending on the Granada he is holding Frag Grenade: essentially soldier’s rocket jump from TF2, great height and decent horizontal distance Thermite grenade: It can propel you forward like a shorter octane stim, can be used to slide quicker and jump higher afterwards Arc star: similar to the frag grenade but you can use it on walls, granting you an easy wall jump but less vertical height then a frag

A cool change to Ashs ult would be the ability to make free-floating portals that arent bound to a floor. Let her be able to make a portal wherever she's aiming, even up into the air.

So honored to be a part of this video! Once again, standing by what I said. If crypto could revive people in his drone it would be sick

Actually, I switch to my sling gun all the time-- usually a PK or Wingman if I'm looking to use it regularly (although this season has been good for the L-Star as well). The extra gun can save your life far more often than it gets credit for; sometimes people just whiff repeatedly and that third gun full of ammo can make all the difference, sometimes a 3-shot with a wingman is just faster, sometimes the PK is more helpful, and sometimes you just want to carry something for every possible range. It also helps to better time your Whistler to coincide with either an enemy reload or weapon swap. That said, at least the top 1% of Ballistic players *do* use their sling weapons without ult, at least on occasion.

Vantage has three passives: natural scope, can ping shields and # of squad, and has a built in bullet drop crosshair. Her tactical isn’t bad since it provides a lot of utility but requires thinking. The only thing holding her back besides not providing much to the team is that wide hitbox. She’s so fat that she leaks out of cover, making peaking extremely hard and half cover exposing her head.

another buff for fuse would be able to add different ways of using his ult like a wall of fire, a circle filled in with fire and a bunch of different variety’s of his ult to choose which way you should use it and maybe make it so that it would deploy faster

For ash I’ve been having ideas, her tactical is decent! I just think it would be cool if it stuck to more than one person, it’s not that bad of cc so it wouldn’t be as strong, or having two tacticals would be great as well, her passive should be a pop up like bamboozle so she can just ping where teams just died instead of going into map and looking. Her port could also be faster :) that’s my ideas P.s. I knew what vantage passive was

As a Mags main, i can respect your take as well as the suggested buffs. I do also think she should get a longer highlight bonus for damaging enemies, should be able to reload shotties faster, and her wrecking ball should do more damage. Seriously, a more consistent wrecking ball isnt too much to ask for.

I haven’t played apex in like 2 years but I still watch every single one of your tier lists 😂

I don't understand how people don't know that you can hold Vantage's tactical without having to bring echo somewhere specific everytime.

Seer's tactical interupting actions like healing and using abilites was fine tbh. As long as it doesn't do 5 other things as well. It was a unique effect that can be balanced properly if they attempt it again

Man we need you for every game out there Youre such a great content creator!

One amazing buff bor ash, making his taktikal like catalyst que, even if you cant hit enemy it should stay there until someone hits it. And there could be two at most. This was possible at ApexM and this made her tactical way useful in blocking doorways and tight pathways, when someone is hard chasing you. You might also get random sticks when you leave one at zoprails or chokes. For her portal she can use it second time in 5 secons after using it, but the second will be only half the distance. For example 50+25m.( This was also possible in ApexM).This will stop enamy from taking your portal, grant longer range, and give bit more flexibility.

I vantage buff idea I had was allowing her to switch to her 3x zoom she has when not holding a gun on snipers and marksman rifles, it would really give her an advantage with the weapons they’re trying to push her to use. Imagine having usable optics on a scout when you first grab it.

Would love to see a weapons tier list too! :D

The editing on this is actually so good

I liked your idea for a Lifeline ultimate rework. Including the faster revives and preventing teammates from being finished, they could make it so enemies can’t revive in this area either. Maybe the machine would be like a deployable respawn beacon that works inside buildings and has a glowing heart on it?

I feel like blood Bangalore and horizon is pretty sick, this team is pretty good for push, you can play very dive like and horizon and banga is pretty good ult combo

Macro, you are a prophet. You correctly called Conduit being a part of the competitive meta and also had the future sight with a lot of your legend suggestions. A good bit of your buff ideas will now be integrated into the Season 20 legend upgrade system with the new perks. Well done Macro, you earned a new subscriber.

Always a good day when macro uploads

Ash could be great. I think she should get 2 snares and improve the length, speed, and placability of her portal. Could be interesting if her passive was the opposite of Wraith’s. She gets directional hints from the void of where enemies may be.

5:54 macro it’s a passive that makes it so that when she has an optic on her gun that is 2x or above, there is an extra reticle that pops up that shows you where enemies are, what shields their enemies have and it shows you where your bullets will drop off( no I did not look that up)

its crazy how some of these recommendations are coming next season as armor perks, you did that macro

I have a couple ideas for Ash, Fuse, and Valk. Ash - ash sends a wave of "phase energy" from her sword turning obstacles into this "phase like state" allowing anyone to walk through it until said obstacle turns back to it's original state after 2 seconds. Fuse - fuse would have a alternate fire for his ult. Allowing him to shoot his mother lode directly at a target and dealing 40 damage and creating a patch of fire. Using this alternate mode would give a shorter cool down to his ult as well. Valkyrie - this one's pretty simple just allow her to use her rockets while she's flying using her ult. I appreciate any feedback. :)

Ash feels like a jack of all trades, master of none. She has the passive of a recon, the ultimate of a skirmisher, and her tactical is trying its best. I don't know if reworking her to have a more specialized kit over a well rounded kit would be better or not.

As a lifeline main I think her ultimate can be reworked. She could throw her drone into the air and then there could be like a radius or like a circle. If you are in the circle and on the lifelines team your get a instant evo upgrade and fast heals. This should last around 30-60 seconds. To balance it out there could be music so surrounding teams can know that a lifeline just used her ult. The drone should be thrown up into the air so that teams could destroy (It would have a decent amount of hp though). Also the lifeline couldn’t use her tac or passive during this time. The drone could also specifically follow the lifeline. This would be a good way to make lifeline’s kit aggressive and fun.

Macro may I aske if its the Chaos theory track at the titel screen bc thats my fav track in-game anyhow love ya content keep it up

Can't believe its been 10 seasons since I started watching you nice video btw

I don't think Ballistic is that bad, his ultimate is more than the upgraded sling weapon. The increased movement/reload speed and infinite ammo applies to your team, plus it extends by 5 seconds per kill not just by you but anyone on your team affected by Tempest. And teammates don't need to stay in the radius of the ultimate range for the buff to stay active. It works offensively and I also use it reactively against pushes, and his ult is better than Loba's when you have limited ammo in some endgame situations.

My one gripe is that vantage’s passive totally counters bangalore and mirage, her jump is better than revenant if you know how to cancel it, and her sniper is op, she’s a tier at least

One buff I whould give to mirage is a couple things. 1: give is clones a bit of health. Not to much so that it’s broken, but just enough so people don’t get easily fooled. And this could potentially be able to use it as cover. 2: giving his clones modes. Point mode, which is it just moving to a point, mirror mode, which is mirroring his movements, and Battle mode, were the act like bots, and “shot” near by enemies. This whould add more versatility and make it more confusing for enemies.

Kinda glad Vantage continues to be slept on and not as popular because she’s good but needs some tweaks. Her passive is probably the best in the game for info gathering since, well, she’s the team’s scout. And Echo already does follow you, which you’d know if you played her. But ya. She needs some buffs. Maybe no LoS for Echo and give the girl fortified. She’s built for it and got enough heavy clothing to warrant it

Buff for Wattson: she can see ultimate accelerants through walls, she can hold three accelerants, and use time is three seconds. But if *ANYTHING,* I want her to be able to see accelerants through walls

I think something ballistic could get is almost an inverse of his sling. He's always decked out with a p2020 or something bad, but it can use every attachment in the game. Maybe give it a CAR mechanic too

i just realized while watching your video that it's quite weird that i have never played overwatch, no nothing about it and have no intention of playing it but i still watch every single one of your videos.

Your lists are honestly the best. You say things ive always thought that people disagree with. Your voice has more weight and can actually change peoples minds. Im glad im not the only one. Btw, i do think caustic should be a bit lower. Even though i agree on all your comments. Ballistics tactical should have a longer overheat effect. Right now its a bit underwhelming. And i disagree on his passive. I use the sling weapon un ultified all the time, people underestimate it. A back up shotgun, alternator or even a smg is really clutch. I usually go a long range weapon like a 3030, a sentinel or a triple take, then i go for a shotgun or smg in my secondary. Then i usually use a alternator as a backup because even though the ammo is low. Its enough and lasts long enough to finnish them off, because you already have used a car or a r99 on them, and if thats not enough, then you can pull out the lucky noscope with a triple take. And to add even more, when i ult, i get a dissruptor alternator with 1 sec reloads and no movement slowness, like come on, its pretty busted. But at the end of the day, its in the top ranked play, i get it if he isnt that good, but for pubs, he is a stomper.

A really fun fix for Mirage would be random clones. Imagine shooting at him and all of a sudden you see YOU running at you.

As a aggressive lifeline player, instead of using the care package as good loot, I use it as cover and shield swaps in fights

I know what Vantages passive is... and it's pretty damn helpful. I always feel like I'm missing her passive when I chose others

Been so hyped for this!

this is sick I love this tier list! Keep it up macro I love you're videos!

Lifeline ult idea: Keep the care package but if your teammates are dead and you use it, it gives you their banners.

For Mirage they can give his clones hp like about 100hp which will keep them longer distracted and will only bamboozle when the clone dies.Mirage can also use his decoys as cover

Maggie is super slept on, the shotgun passive is a nice plus and when she damages another legend they become highlighted for a short amount of time

Valks Ult can just be a version of the Flight Core, allowing her to hover/strafe in the air while firing. They can balance it by adjusting the duration or how fast she moves while strafing. By its nature its not OP, because she's a relatively easy target while flying meaning you'd have to be smart about positioning/timing in order to not get destroyed.

As a Ash main, i already accepted she will be in D tier for a long while. Poor Ash has been needing buffs since season 11, we are in season 19 and we barely got anything for her. Her passive of scanning deathboxes is useless, the other passive is cool but not that impactful, tatical is situational and barely holds people in place, ultimate is okay but outclassed by Wraith. They should just stop adding legends for a while and focus on making underwhelming legends better.

Loba is bare minimum an A tier she’s 100 percent the best character for respawning teammates with the new system. And her q is pretty good now in my opinion it’s a decent escape tool and an amazing off angle tool. I’m curious why he thinks the q is bad.

Bro that intro song you put brought back some memories

I like everything except for Maggie’s placement. There was no talk about her passive which is kind of alright because the shotgun movement speed isn’t that big of a deal, but scanning enemies when dealing damage partially counters Bangalore’s smoke. It’s super easy to track enemies through it after getting a single hit.

As a crypto main I believe he does need a buff. The drone just doesn’t feel as active. I still believe the drone should allowed to follow you. Or at least a shorter cooldown after it’s destroyed. Or at LEAST an actual passive. His passive is just a description of his tactical.

Haven't played or really cared about apex since season 12 so there were a few really surprising spots. Especially gibby and wattson being in b tier are both equally surprising, for the exact opposite reasons. I'm used to my main being d tier and gibby being a must pick

I have never even played a single second of Apex Legends, yet I religiously watch every single one of Macro's videos on the subject, and have viewed both Macdowns twice To me this really speaks volumes on the Macro quality and charm

| F TIER | SEER : 1:20 - | D TIER | MIRAGE : 2:42 BALLISTIC : 3:37 ASH 4:32 - | C TIER | VANTAGE 5:40 LIFELINE 6:37 OCTANE 7:47 FUSE 8:22 LOBA 9:18 VALKYRIE 9:49 - | B TIER | MAD MAGGIE 10:39 WATTSON 11:11 PATHFINDER 11:37 RAMPART 12:02 GIBRALTAR [GIBBY~] 12:45 CRYPTO 13:10 NEWCASTLE 13:39 CAUSTIC 14:14 - | A TIER | WRAITH 14:53 REVENANT REBORN 15:13 CONDUIT 15:53 BLOODHOUND 16:25 - | S TIER | HORIZON 17:03 CATALYST 17:47 BANGALORE 18:27 | Bangalore main here 🧡🦊🧡 |

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Turning fuses knucklecluster/gernades into ash coachgun sounds so fun but possibility busted if nades have full damage just rushing or jumping into the enemy with no regards as you prepare to rocketjump and bust all their shields. would be so disrespectful also make it oneshot horizons ults. Also also skid plates for fuse allowing him to not just rocket jump but wallride an punchboost essential. Would just make a nasty escape artist and great for flanks on certain maps/ poi.

I AGREEEE I’ve been playing Bangalore and HOLYYYY Bangalore and Conduit are my mains this season I have so much fun with themm 💜

A cool buff for seer would be buffing his tactical a bit more, keeping it hard to hit but still stunning heals, revives, etc. Then, when he pops his ult, a cool feature would be half cooldown on his tactical, and a “sure hit” effect like domain expansion so he guarantees a shot with his tactical, giving him a much better edge fighting within his ult and making it more threatening to enter. For a mirage buff a cool concept would be able to switch positions with your decoy, which means that you can’t ever ignore a decoy even if it isn’t the actual player, which can make for some big outplays. How it fits into the lore? A magician never reveals his secrets

I think an interesting buff for Maggie’s drill would be making it so it drills through thicker cover, like when it makes contact with something it keeps drilling till it makes it to the other side, and it would also be funny if you could send it through an entire mountain

Tbh I think vantage is definitely an A tier bc of her ability to give some much info about a team from far away, ability to escape bad situations, dominant in long range battles.

5:51 As a vantage main *cough cough* Vantage’s passive is where you can “scan enemies” knowing what legend they are, what shield lvl they’re at, and how far they are. This Passive is only usable on a 2x sight or greater but can also be used if you don’t have a weapon equipped in your hands. Her Passive is pretty good if you want to push a team if they have 1-2 players and weak shield but isn’t in end game situation. I also agreed with all of your cool ideas (:

Wep preatty goooooooood Great job tho keep on doing what you’re doing

Mirage buff idea: 2 buffs and a slight rework are in order, when you bamboozle a person instead of it being a marker it’s something like mad Maggie’s passive where you see their outline and where they are moving. The market will only show at the moment of the bamboozle but would fade away quickly afterwards (to indicate where they are in the moment) You can make teammate bamboozles and duplicate your team. Your tactical has 3 charges now for each member of your squad. Finally his ultimate would create 4 - 5 clones around you and your teammates. (Clones would use speed buffs and movement abilities if they’re under the effect of one or if the person they’re mimicking is using ability like that for eg: octane uses stim they all get the buff to speed) This could be way too strong but at the same time it’d give mirage such good supportive utility as a support character I think it could get him to B tier at least.

I agree with some positions and not others, but I guess that's the beauty of Tier Lists.

For lifeline, I think her ult should just be tweaked to become an Instant rez. like if her care-package kept it's look but obtained massive buffs, such. as; - being summoned instantly through a portal (so it can be indoors) - instantly rezzing allies, they'll be shot out of the care-package doors, with appropriate armor (purple for 3rd ring, red for final ring.) - instantly creating a small healing field around it for a couple of seconds.

omg i love the little chibi avatars for the legends

You need to do a tier list for team death match and control. The abilities don't transfer well for some legends

vantages passive is a lot better than you think, it can determine starts to fights and you can see through Bangalore smoke with it in some circumstances

As great buff for Lifeline is to replace her Ultimate with a tablet similar to Crash in COD BO4. This tablet allows life life to give a surge of HP (50HP) as health with a rapid health regeneration for 5 secs (the speed of her drone healing) and allows your teammates to self revive if they’re downed when the ultimate goes off (as well as restore their downed HP; not the death timer though).

Another Macro apex legends tier list LETS GOOOO❤

Thanks macro love the vids also hmu if there's another macdown I'm just saying I'd be pretty op

As a mirage and ballistic main, i can definitely agree that mirage should duplicate his teammates and gain another decoy. But he isn't a bad legend, the tricks and confusion you can deploy, is more effective than you say. As for ballistics passive, the sling does come in handy in 1v1s, way more than i thought. I do like your suggestion for the passive, that would be sick.

Hey Macro nice video. Heres my tierlist, comp only no ranked or pubs: S: cat, bang, A: hound, horizon, conduit B: fuse, wattson, caustic, wraith, newcastle C: Gibby, Crypto, Ash, Loba, Rev, Rampart D: Lifeline, Path, Valk, Maggie, F: Octane, Vantage, Mirage, Seer, Ballistic

i got back into apex today, what are the odds i was legit hopin for a macro tier list

I think crypto should have the same ability as vantage, he can move his drone to a certain position but to make sure it’s not too similar and super broken, he can only do it once. If he wants to do it again he has to recall the drone So he can enter the drone obviously to move it, but if ur fighting and want a better position of the enemies, you can move ur drone (like how you move echo) but only once and use a different button, which becomes disabled once used, and enabled after recalled and put out again.

Every new tier list video Seer be going from S tier to bottom tier than back to S tier. Can my man just get a break 🤣

With the recent event, the buster sword could become ashs new ult. Similar to genjis ult in overwatch

I miss watching Macro's apex legends and weapons tier list, so nostalgic, I feel so old

Fuse in C is wild. Everything else is a W but just stacking 2 nades per slot alone plus the assault passive puts him higher for me. I'm also just a diamond skrub tho lol

I feel like bangalore smoke is fine, thats kind what her whole kit is based off of until her ultimate is charged and with the increased time i think what your suggesting may lower her to F or D tier

Lifeline could have something along the lines of Finka from siege. It needs hella tweaking, but if it can reach a balance point, it could be really good. FathPinder could get damage resist when on ziplines. Could only be his, could be all ziplines.

Rampart is really underrated because sheila is really good and the buff of wall placement can be helpful for revives and any cover when you need to run out in the open that’s why I got a legend token recolor skin for her instead of waiting for the northern lights PK skin

I’m so happy, finally seeing my boi rev not in D tier. Been maining him since season 5

Imagine how awesome horizon black hole clearing bang smoke would look. A spinning accretion disk of glowing gas around the ult.

Love the rampart love!!

Hey Macro, just a cool passive Idea for Caustic, what if when you shoot a Caustic Trapp and dont hit the bottom, more gas comes out, that would give Caustic an opportunity to apply his gas faster and more of it and punish enemies that dont aim well enough. Just an Idea, have a great day.😊

Hey, Macro, I used to play a lot of Apex during the first two years, but I've slowly grown away from it over the years, only playing intermittently. Season 20 looks hype as hell and I want to get back into the game, but I need to get caught back up on both patches and lore. I'm sure I'm not the only old player that feels this way. Any interest in doing a history/catch up on Apex Legends video?

i really think in order to implement more play making to mirages kit, they should give him back some form of invisibility, either in his ultimate again, or he could go invisible for a few seconds if he has 25 hp or less

Ayo that Vantgae callout was uncalled for 😆

the whole first half of the vid i was looking for crypto glad my boy is higher up now

Mirage should have a flash when he hits his ult that blinds enemies that were looking at him when he activated it. Also he should be able to control his tactical remotely and see what the decoy can see, making it like cryptos drone but only for recon purposes.

WHOO LETS GO ANOTHER MACRO VID

I THINK a GOOD ability for seers tactical would be an ability that i would call: drone burst! it would be like a little cloud of drones that seer sends out in front of him that bounces back enemies and higlights them (it may help if you think of it like a bloodhound scan but executed by drones with 6 metres range and it bounces enemies back). that could help him because it would have a direct combat effect (pushing the enemy back) and a recon effect (scanning them after they got hit) that would not make him overpowered, since he would only be able to scan if the enemy is in close combat but it would give him an advantage, because he gets the knockback on the enemy, allowing him to reposition himself during the pushback and then fight against an enemy he has knowledge about

It is confirmed lifeline is getting a rework where now her drone will follow her to heal teamates and her ult is now giving more of combat medic for her drone does a huge electric shock to enemies around her close to crypto emp but does more damage