"The Apple Studio Display is a Bad Deal"

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Marques Brownlee

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Apple's Studio Display is quite an oddball in 2022...
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@bradclapp4022
@bradclapp4022 2 роки тому
Apple went out of the way to engineer the power cord to not be user removable and also engineered a special tool to remove it.
@11alekon
@11alekon 2 роки тому
That's what Apple does best
@AlexYBITW
@AlexYBITW 2 роки тому
Classic Apple.
@user-mz3ni8yu4v
@user-mz3ni8yu4v 2 роки тому
Apple; The best company at sucking every penny out of their customers. And I'm one of them
@MoisesZTech
@MoisesZTech 2 роки тому
@@user-mz3ni8yu4v same - were idiots
@luisch1708
@luisch1708 2 роки тому
@@user-mz3ni8yu4v u love their products so much u dont mind they treat their customers like crap?
@vidIQ
@vidIQ 2 роки тому
I'm surprised they didn't offer a 'Studio stand' with cutouts allowing you to place the Mac Studio on the base of the stand and thread all the cables through it... for $399 extra dollars
@sebastianjuppscharwachter9022
@sebastianjuppscharwachter9022 2 роки тому
Why Not $999🤔
@mole1596
@mole1596 2 роки тому
"Sir, you're hired."
@mytester6208
@mytester6208 2 роки тому
why any power cable at all? why not go beyond, and let it be powered by the thunderbold/usbc and no need for power cable at all.
@KermitOfWar
@KermitOfWar 2 роки тому
@@sebastianjuppscharwachter9022 $999.99 + California tax, so that'd be around $1240.99 for a stand.. Don't give these ass-hats at Apple anymore ideas.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 2 роки тому
@@KermitOfWar That's the funny thing. That's what apple did with their prior stands a few years ago lol
@quinlanhogan7543
@quinlanhogan7543 Рік тому
I think Apple fixed all of what they consider mistakes from the last display. Removable cable, removable stand, vesa mounting, any user repairability or customizability that might have snuck through
@dominicpascal5512
@dominicpascal5512 Рік тому
what do you mean, there is a VESA option that - unlike the PRO XDR - does not cost extra
@reginaldbowls7180
@reginaldbowls7180 Рік тому
Yet they've added it to their user repair program.......hmmm
@jeanclaudethedarklord6205
@jeanclaudethedarklord6205 11 місяців тому
​@@reginaldbowls7180 their user repair program is as good as banging your head against the wall, this has been proven by pro repair technicians over and over again
@Chopper153
@Chopper153 10 місяців тому
Well, they should've soldered the power cable so that it's definitely not removable. Also, it shouldn't work with a Windows PC.
@JacksonCampbell
@JacksonCampbell 8 місяців тому
@@Chopper153 No. If it didn't work with Windows, then they should be sued.
@timchowstudio8817
@timchowstudio8817 Рік тому
As a professional photographer & filmmaker considering this product for my production team, this definitely helped me make the decision to NOT move forward on picking this "studio" monitor up yet. You made great points on the features that you'd expect in 2022 for the price range....and Apple has delivered an underwhelming product on this one. If you have a bunch of cash to burn, this might be a fun purchase. Otherwise, you can move the needle for you and your business a lot more by investing the same money towards something else.
@johnolin
@johnolin Рік тому
What monitor are you considering that has the same color accuracy for a lower price point?
@TheFirstRealChewy
@TheFirstRealChewy Рік тому
I'm running windows. I ordered the Asus PA32UCR-K and should have it by the end of this week. Its essentially the cheaper version of the UCX. I couldn't find any reviews of it, so will see how it goes. I just hope the quality is great all around. The specs looked great given that I won't be doing much gaming. Mini led, HDR1000, almost 100% coverage of the core gamuts (sRGB, Adobe RGB, DCI-P3), very accurate, etc. Hopefully the lack of reviews mean everyone is busy being productive with it.
@PasteurizedLettuce
@PasteurizedLettuce Рік тому
@@johnolin are you joking? There are tons? The Huawei Mateview does the same and it’s a 10 bit panel lol
@the_irav
@the_irav Рік тому
Get a 4K Eizo, never look back.
@martinXY
@martinXY Рік тому
@@the_irav The only Eizo I could find that was close to having equivalent specifications as the Studio Display is the Eizo CG2700X. It's 4k instead of 5k and maximum brightness is a little lower, but it does have built-in hardware calibration and that hood would be useful. However, it is twice the price of Apple's Studio Display. The Eizo would look good on my desk, but work wouldn't pay for it 😕
@ClemensAlive
@ClemensAlive 2 роки тому
Apple marketing logic: "We don't send chargers with the iPhones anymore, because of environmental reasons." "If your power cable breaks, you have to send in the whole thing!" (I would even consider myself a fan boy. But some stuff they do makes me puke. It's just greedy.)
@AlexKidd4Fun
@AlexKidd4Fun 2 роки тому
Maybe it's the green agenda that resulted in this decision. Thoughts go like this: Because previously they said power cables were not included due to waste concerns, this monitor they made it permanently attached in case someone tried to call them out for including a power cable. "But it's permanently attached, we had to include it!" 🤦
@fmarinosfromafar9512
@fmarinosfromafar9512 2 роки тому
I have a 10 year old Thunderbolt Display on my desk, the power cable is in perfect condition (as are the other cables, which are known to crack). I've never had to disconnect it from the back of the monitor, even when moving the monitor between office and home and back.
@nmrocks28
@nmrocks28 2 роки тому
@@fmarinosfromafar9512 ok
@CricketEngland
@CricketEngland 2 роки тому
Yes it is after all consider your a new Mac user in the U.K. and you purchases the top of the range Mac Studio for example for £3999 and get it home only to find that all you get in the bus is the computer and a power cable. You them go back to the apple store and to get a screen, stand, trackpad, keyboard, mouse and of course they then force you into purchasing the apple care, so that’s another £2065 (for the basic screen and stand) you have to pay and nearly £3000 if you want top of the range. What a rip off…
@divadsn
@divadsn 2 роки тому
Lol du hier xD
@rachelhutchison5961
@rachelhutchison5961 2 роки тому
The nonremovable power cable is absolutely absurd. They actually went out of their way, and spent R&D money, to design a new, worse cable when they already had multiple options for something good.
@RashidTak
@RashidTak 2 роки тому
@@sys-administrator Just like iMac? an already working design? Or like literally every other monitor in the past decade? I can't remember any monitor other than old CRTs having non removable cable
@Clarkzer0
@Clarkzer0 2 роки тому
@@sys-administrator This comment screams "I don't know anything about tech other than what's shoveled directly to me as true".
@ChristopherCobra
@ChristopherCobra 2 роки тому
@@sys-administrator The option to remove and - if need be - replace it without having to take the entire monitor to an Apple store which around here requires an appointment and a couple hours of my valuable time. How would I have designed it? I would not have too. Because it has already been done. In fact Apple has done it. They actually went out of their way to make it harder on their customers. Wow. Design can have value..... Poor design can destroy it.
@joetheoriginalclark
@joetheoriginalclark 2 роки тому
they definitely just want more people signing up for apple care. somehow just using a proprietary connector that allows the monitor to be extra thin wasn't enough because that would mean people could just buy a new or used cable and not have to pay apple to swap it out.
@blarghmcblarghson1903
@blarghmcblarghson1903 2 роки тому
​@@sys-administrator 6:55 question's literally already answered in the video.
@FarmCraft101
@FarmCraft101 Рік тому
You got my thumb’s up on the last sentence. 😂 Great review.
@noonewouldpickthis
@noonewouldpickthis 2 роки тому
Thank you UKposts algorithm for sending me Marques. Your reviews seem to be truly unbiased, sharing the good and bad in a very clear, concise way that I really enjoy. Well done sir!
@confused_horse
@confused_horse 2 роки тому
I love how he's avoiding "It's not a good deal" so hard and I was almost angry that he's so diplomatic, just to end the video with "No, it's not a good deal.". :D
@SF-li9kh
@SF-li9kh 2 роки тому
This irritates me too when he reviews terrible products. Come on man, just say it sucks
@spect80r
@spect80r 2 роки тому
​@@SF-li9kh It doesn't suck, it's just not worth the money
@ericc8160
@ericc8160 2 роки тому
"by specs of the panel is clear it's a not a good deal"
@ibrahimadabo9417
@ibrahimadabo9417 2 роки тому
@@SF-li9kh I mean, it's in the title already
@jordananton
@jordananton 2 роки тому
Yeah I was so irritated by the lengths he was going to to make excuses for Apple. Like you can make those same excuses about any terrible product... But then he finally admitted at the end that it's not a good deal.
@joseespinoza2687
@joseespinoza2687 2 роки тому
The fact that the M1 iMac 24in with a 4.5k display exist for $1,300, which is a full computer makes this a terrible deal. I was at an apple store and my sister said "So this display is more than that computer? That makes no sense".
@fmulleady
@fmulleady 2 роки тому
Exactly, and the iMac 24 really is very capable!
@alexandersokolov7001
@alexandersokolov7001 2 роки тому
Don’t worry, Apple will fix this problem…By raising the base price of an imac to 2000$
@mac.fk14
@mac.fk14 2 роки тому
hey i am not that into tech but why would people buy a 5k lcd monitorsfor this much price instead of 4k oled as in general oled has way better colours
@justsoap4749
@justsoap4749 2 роки тому
@@mac.fk14 just to flex. and say look at me I have a apple product I’m rich 🤑
@jsonr
@jsonr 2 роки тому
@@mac.fk14 OLEDs and desktop computers don't mix well because of all of the static elements and because of OLED smearing
@blurayauthority
@blurayauthority Рік тому
I like mine. I agree about the power cord - don't know why they couldn't have used the same design they did with the new iMacs - with a magnetic closure. But it works great with my Mac Mini, I like the additional USB-C ports and it's worked out great for me.
@chrismirchandani8895
@chrismirchandani8895 2 роки тому
Great presentation and I agree with the fails on no mini-led, no ProMotion, power cord not removable, stand not upgradable, poor quality web cam, and no Face ID given it has a A13 chip even if it was used for 2FA. I also think they missed an opportunity to have multiple monitors work in tandem with audio and possibly even the web cam. This is the company that comes up with great useful features, although neglects a lot of them, and this crazy expensive monitor really only has some trivial additions. It's like the team that designed the Studio Display was designing the old MBP which took away man things Pros, and frankly even general users, wanted while not long ago a different team created the new MBP with things Pros do want and the Studio Display team ignored it all. This display is the victim of the same thing that gave us the Touch Bar. i.e. Apple ignored it, then had to come up with something to say they weren't ignoring the Mac, look the new MBP, it's all the things that no one asked for or wanted in a MBP. Yes I'm aware that had some exaggeration. However, I equate these things to the one button mouse desuional logic which is like a virus Apple can't cure, it always pops up somewhere. Frankly $400 for a single not uncommon function is where Apple shows itself as a greedy corporation like that $19 display cleaning cloth or the $1000 stand. Yes people pay for elegant designs, but there is a point when you're just milking customers because you can. If the stand had more of the functionality of RA-HS3111, which lets you control the position of a monitor in 3 dimensions independently, but they gave it Apple style and the one thing missing, fine tune height adjustment, I'd be OK with $400 - $550. There is actually another thing missing from the RA-HS3111, a quick release at the VESA connection to the monitor, but I've given up on Apple making monitors or AIOs with removal stands. Thanks for the sanity MKBHD!
@robinspanier7017
@robinspanier7017 Місяць тому
and i wounder why? the display could cost 1k more and the same audience would buy it. maybe even more if it came with all the premium stuff people with this money expect of their products...
@squabbbb
@squabbbb 2 роки тому
Unremovable cable is ridiculous, it's almost like apple wants right to repair regulation to come into law. It truly serves no purpose
@diverman1023
@diverman1023 2 роки тому
They literally engineered the most satisfying power connector I have ever used in the M1 iMac, and they decide to not use it
@liamness
@liamness 2 роки тому
I think sometimes they just intentionally make some aspect of their product design completely ridiculous just to get free exposure and coverage. Because the monitor is otherwise so unremarkable, it has ended up being the most talked about aspect of the device.
@PhilfreezeCH
@PhilfreezeCH 2 роки тому
@@diverman1023 not only did they decide not to use it, they went out and spent money to develop, test and build a completely different (bad) solution. This didn‘t save them money, it cost them money, that is the insane part.
@m.f.3347
@m.f.3347 2 роки тому
@@liamness I'm convinced this is the case, same as the $1000 stand (any serious user would just get the VESA mount, but the publicity is priceless)
@LEONARDO-xs2ke
@LEONARDO-xs2ke 2 роки тому
Apple neede to be fined for this
@Jushwa
@Jushwa 2 роки тому
It seems like Apple is testing what people are willing to pay for at this point… the fact that it costs nearly the same as an iMac 5k did is laughable.
@crunchynetto6979
@crunchynetto6979 2 роки тому
at this point? i thought they were doing it on purpose like 3-4 years back…
@humane143imperfection6
@humane143imperfection6 2 роки тому
The Kanye West business model
@shathaan1763
@shathaan1763 2 роки тому
At this point? This is what they always do, the sheeps are still buying, so no problem for then
@nothellhaven
@nothellhaven 2 роки тому
People want an apple with a bite out of it and are willing to pay 5x the price for one
@ogikay7056
@ogikay7056 2 роки тому
@@shathaan1763 Apple is a company. They both release amazing products and bad ones. They are killing it with most of their product offerings.
@paulp3053
@paulp3053 Рік тому
thanks for such a honest review! I keep my late 2013 imac for now..great colors and experience even if its not even a retina....(but costs only 10%)
@gergemall
@gergemall 11 місяців тому
Love your commentaries. Thank you
@daviddifranco
@daviddifranco 2 роки тому
I love the brutal honesty in this one! 👊🏻 Without ProMotion and mini LED, it’s a hard pass. And that’s a shame, because the monitor itself is beautifully designed. It’s a very “Apple” product, I suppose.
@NuggetsXInfinite
@NuggetsXInfinite 2 роки тому
4K pro motion option with mini-LED would make more sense for a $1600 display to me but maybe that's asking too much? Spending $1000+ on a display in 2022 and seeing that terrible contrast rubs me the wrong way
@rickycgarrett
@rickycgarrett 2 роки тому
With those two things alone, the money wouldn’t be able to fly out of my wallet fast enough. Seriously. I would pay the $1999 for the height adjustment ability and all.
@zx39d63
@zx39d63 2 роки тому
they always left out something purposely so it can be an upgrade for the next model
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech 2 роки тому
@@NuggetsXInfinite the LG 4K 144hz display is the same brightness as this, has way higher frame rate, is similar in color accuracy, and does have support for hdr 600 and has local dimming. All for 800. This is a horrible deal in all but it being 5k and pretty looking.
@2424rocket
@2424rocket 2 роки тому
Hate to disagree, but it’s an easy pass. So easy I’m not even thinking about it I’m just buying it. Yes you could buy the LG 5K monitor… But as I said in another comment, if you sneeze too hard it’ll shake rattle and roll. It’s built like crap. But if you can recommend a monitor to me that is way better than this monitor that isn’t made out of plastic crap… Please let me know so I can consider it.
@boostav
@boostav 2 роки тому
The old 27" iMac retailed for $1799 and had the same identical panel (just a 500 nits instead of 600) as the Studio display which costs $1599. For an extra $200 you got an entire computer plus keyboard and mouse. The price of the Studio display is ridiculous, shouldn't be more than $1000.
@brianflowers4217
@brianflowers4217 2 роки тому
Yep, Apple has dramatically increased the price of getting an equivalent machine as the now discontinued 27" iMac.
@EricLS
@EricLS 2 роки тому
The thing is, there’s an entire Apple silicon computer in there. It just can’t compute
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 2 роки тому
exactly, you know they're making even more money off of this than the iMac FOR SURE and they're hoping their fans just eat it up. And honestly? A lot of them are. I've seen way too many "this is such a good monitor oh my god" videos considering just how bad this monitor actually is. They usually have really weird conditions about what is good and what is bad like plastic makes a monitor unusable, if it's not 5k instead of 4k it looks pixelated lol. It takes a real weirdo to really prefer this monitor above other options
@fray3dendsofsanity
@fray3dendsofsanity 2 роки тому
@@EricLS They really should've given it like...Apple TV capabilities or something. For it to have an A13 and 64GB of storage onboard and not be able to do that standalone is ridiculous
@Q_QQ_Q
@Q_QQ_Q 2 роки тому
or get $700 wheels
@cecemoundele1013
@cecemoundele1013 Рік тому
WOW. I am a fool for thinking that the adjustable factor came with the display..only for you to say its a $400 upgrade fee associated to have it do that..I'm floored lol. I highkey was thinking of getting this to add to my apple eco-system lol, but after watching this, I am definitely going to be thinking this over for a while. THANK YOU for your honest review!
@lydiastuemke
@lydiastuemke 2 роки тому
Thanks for this video! You did a great job dumbing it down and keeping it engaging! Are there other monitors with similar specs that have built-in speakers? I have a weird desk setup and the thought of adding more cable clutter to it with speakers is enough to make me go with the studio display.
@truthseeker6804
@truthseeker6804 2 роки тому
No display speaker is as good as a real speaker. Unless you don't care about sound quality.
@rickyjassal4488
@rickyjassal4488 2 роки тому
that ending was actually hilarious when he looks us straight in the eye and says "yea.....its not a good deal" LOL I cannot believe people actually call him an Apple fanboy. He is objective. He doesn't tell you to buy it, he just tells his experience. Love it
@saketkumar2909
@saketkumar2909 2 роки тому
Absolutely correct. I can see why people think he's one but if you look through the past, Marques has had a OnePlus and a Pixel as his daily driver before they went insane and buggy respectively. He also criticised the macbooks until the M1 line-up showed up. I have never owned any apple products myself but i can see Marques is just looking for a good experience and boy apple is good at it.
@aaronthomas6155
@aaronthomas6155 2 роки тому
He's still an apple fanboy..... He's just not part of the isheep crowd. Just because he's not scared to criticize Apple, doesn't make him less a fanboy. Just means he's realistic in his expectations and about his experiences with their products.
@antiisocial
@antiisocial 2 роки тому
@@aaronthomas6155 Exactly. Just because I'm a avid fan of a certain football team doesn't mean I'm not going to yell at the TV when they do something stupid. Lol
@SahejSSandhu
@SahejSSandhu 2 роки тому
@@aaronthomas6155 So how is he a fanboy?
@Spryzen_
@Spryzen_ 2 роки тому
@@aaronthomas6155 I mean that isn’t the term for it just fairly reviewing stuff doesn’t make him a fanboy also he uses the products because he likes them and are good so really he is just an apple user
@peterthepanda
@peterthepanda 2 роки тому
LTT summarized the Apple Studio Display pretty nicely - "an LG Ultra Fine 5k Display Expensive Edition". 😆
@Ok-lu8gx
@Ok-lu8gx 2 роки тому
ok
@MarcSpctr
@MarcSpctr 2 роки тому
and also "less practical"
@danksquidward
@danksquidward 2 роки тому
Haha, fully agree, the Pro Display XDR I would say is actually worth the money but I can't keep the same statement for the new studio display.
@jessechuff
@jessechuff 2 роки тому
The LG is literally only $300 cheaper and it’s built way more on the cheap with it being fully plastic with no metal or glass. Plus, when you watch videos side by side, the Studio Display has way better color accuracy and contrast. So yeah, it’s the same thing for $300, and that extra $300 is used to make an inherently better display and experience.
@prcvl
@prcvl 2 роки тому
Without the removable Power Cord
@baldlyjoe
@baldlyjoe Рік тому
Great review as usual, Marques. This has been as always helpful. Still sticking with iMac for now.
@gunpowderboardgames
@gunpowderboardgames 7 місяців тому
I have one of these, mainly because apple colour on the screen is really accurate if you work in print like I do. I wish they would have given us just 2 more inches though, it does feel smaller compared to my old iMac 27 because that was taller. Great review, thanks
@WhatAreColors
@WhatAreColors Місяць тому
do your customers look at the screen while you work and tell you exactly what color they want? lets face it, you fix common file issues and then print proof on some inkjet, send it to the customer and they say yes. you are a smart person, you could do just fine without the studio display
@dannywinget
@dannywinget 2 роки тому
Great breakdown of why it’s not for you and why it might be for some people. It really makes me want to skip them though for my setup
@thatdesiindian
@thatdesiindian 2 роки тому
hey,Marques Can I get that wallpaper's link 😅
@epicmusic9029
@epicmusic9029 2 роки тому
Idk how it would be a thing for other people tho, the person could just make a faux metal finish frame for a display instead of buying the Apple studio display and I don’t think any Apple user could complain about not having 5k over 4K considering they would go for mini leds instead.
@abubakrakram6208
@abubakrakram6208 2 роки тому
​@@epicmusic9029 We absolutely would complain about not having 5K over 4K. We don't have ClearType like on Windows. MacOS doesn't scale well bellow 200% like Windows does. Text on a 4K screen looks much worse than it would on Windows.
@guim817
@guim817 2 роки тому
@@thatdesiindian UKposts won't let me paste the full link. MKBHD stores wallpaper in that Google Drive folder 0B_wmPHe0B1PFV0dWUEEycm9DT2M
@championogunsina6062
@championogunsina6062 2 роки тому
@@guim817where can I find the Google drive link?
@bigpun4780
@bigpun4780 2 роки тому
Missed opportunity: Apple could have priced this at $2500 and sold the exact same number of units. Anyone crazy enough to spend $1600 would be crazy enough to spend $2500.
@adityasharma5106
@adityasharma5106 2 роки тому
I would even say that some people would buy this at 3000
@aaronthomas6155
@aaronthomas6155 2 роки тому
It has an Apple logo on it....price is irrelevant for some people. All that matters is the Apple logo.
@truelovewontwait
@truelovewontwait 2 роки тому
KA-CHING!
@FlareiOS
@FlareiOS 2 роки тому
Nah, a lot of newer, smaller studios need to count every dollar. Who knows, maybe the $900 extra really is a dealbreaker for somebody
@lockhart1895
@lockhart1895 2 роки тому
It’s 2500$ here in Canada
@TechFit360
@TechFit360 Рік тому
Thank you for this Video @MKBHD because I was on the fence and didn't know which way to go!!!
@HalixCH
@HalixCH 8 місяців тому
After 1 year of owning two of these displays, I have to say they are the best displays I ever owned. In our office I am the only one with this display, others all have an HP panorama display that‘s about as expensive. Funny thing: Whenever I‘m in my HomeOffice my colleagues use my Apple display instead of their larger HP. I don’t know wether it’s because of the higher resolution (despite being smaller) or the better colors or the uniform lighting without light speckles or the joy of using a display that doesn’t wiggle whenever you touch the table. A solid aluminum display with an excellent screen seems to be worth something.
@randomrandom7208
@randomrandom7208 5 місяців тому
But HP's panoramic display is, you know, a panoramic display, it's an ultra-wide monitor, and Apple's one is not. And if you really have problems with monitor stability, you can try using a desk/wall mount, it will cost less than $400 and will allow you a wider range of position adjustment.
@HalixCH
@HalixCH 5 місяців тому
@@randomrandom7208 Our whole office is full of panoramic HP displays. And still… my coworkers prefer to use my smaller display. And my desk ist standing in the middle of the room, no way to use a mount.
@randomrandom7208
@randomrandom7208 5 місяців тому
@@HalixCH I wasn't trying to convince you that a panoramic display is better, I was just pointing out that it's an expensive feature (even if you don't really need it), so a direct comparison isn't entirely fair. And yes, no matter how good the desktop mount is, it is not a solution for all cases.
@ogonzilla
@ogonzilla 2 роки тому
😂😂 Best ending ever.
@Bharath-YT
@Bharath-YT 2 роки тому
Absolutely! The last line made my day!
@teacyka
@teacyka 2 роки тому
Here to say it
@sazeracgod
@sazeracgod 2 роки тому
Was gonna say the same thing. I laughed pretty good
@RayeBay1
@RayeBay1 2 роки тому
I completely agree. Your closing of this episode was absolutely brilliant!
@WillKlein
@WillKlein 2 роки тому
Hah, this. The intro was a good setup on its own. Circling back with all the points made? Yeah, that was a clutch way to drive the point home.
@SingerVishnuRam
@SingerVishnuRam 2 роки тому
Waiting for apple to make speakers with a non removable lightning cable and you will have to buy lightning to 3.5 mm jack or XLRs for additional 200 dollars.
@ARUchannel1
@ARUchannel1 2 роки тому
Simply don't buy crap
@NBABIGANT
@NBABIGANT 2 роки тому
It's coming 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DmitriBilgere
@DmitriBilgere 2 роки тому
The original homepod had the same cable situation -- you CAN pull the power cord out, but you SHOULDN'T. I wish it HAD a lightning cable or any wired way to get sound into the thing.
@RobR386
@RobR386 Рік тому
Yeah they do, its called the Homepod mini, they have a non removable USB C cable, bit of an annoyance if the cable gets damaged for whatever reason.
@danieldelariva4653
@danieldelariva4653 7 місяців тому
Love your channel bro! Do you happen to have recommendations for color accurate monitors ?
@kevinhooper4553
@kevinhooper4553 7 місяців тому
I have been passively watching your content for years and something about your delivery in this video finally prompted me to subscribe. Thanks.
@soerenbo
@soerenbo 2 роки тому
This video perfectly shows my main BIG problem with this monitor (and some other decisions apple made in the last years). Everything that stands out as particularly "great/good" are things that don't actually matter for the monitor as a monitor. Build quality, feel, a build in UI with a good chip, good speakers... all nice, but everything that matters for the actual product as a MONITOR is just not good enough for the price (and the add-on prices) Apple is asking for. Yes it feels good, but i almost never touch my monitor, yes it sounds good, but for a desktop i always use external speakers or headphones, yes it's well made (except the cable), but i never had a monitor breaking because it's plastic... what i actually want in a high standard productivity monitor is amazing peak brightness, a higher refresh rate for more pleasant reading and scrolling (let's be honest, gaming is not what apple is focussing on), an amazing panel with accurate colors and close to the best blacks and maybe some comfort features like tilt, swivel, height adjust and rotation if you don't put it on an arm... and none of that is what this monitor stands out for. It honestly feels like Apple spend tons of time and money to develope a shiny new product with lots of features, but failed to develope the core feature set to a point that actually feels well done. It's like a bog standard monitor with with some Apple-Glitter slapped on it.
@american-professor
@american-professor 2 роки тому
I don't even think Apple spent too much time on this one, given that users have already reported problems with their web cams.
@TheKontraRecords
@TheKontraRecords 2 роки тому
Thanks for writing, so I don’t have to do it again - 100% with you on this one, the power Cable, yeah I get the point, but I never broke on, and if you buy 1600 worth of display pets should not be allowed in the room or trained well anyway. - Most likely it’ll be a work space. Bazels are something I might add. To bis for these days, and the hole display is do much, because of all the features I don’t wont. iPhone 11 had a small footprint, for being a phone, better cameras and a okay-ish speaker. Why the hell is that display so thick when the stuffed a whole computer in the iMac 27” and even less into the 24” inch?
@calebjankola8728
@calebjankola8728 2 роки тому
cool, good for you. build quality isn’t important for everyone, just because it’s not for you doesn’t mean it’s not a good product. I’d prefer to have a better built product that lasts longer! ♻️
@soerenbo
@soerenbo 2 роки тому
​@@calebjankola8728 Great how you managed to completely misinterprete my comment... congratulations. I never said, and never will say that build quality isn't important. It definetly is, very much so. But this is not "better quality", it's more material waste without any other purpose than to "look good". It's a "good-enough" monitor for money you pay for a "very good" one, because it's shiny and cool. There are tons of monitors with less features and "worse" materials, which still have amazing lifespans, don't break, have replaceable stands and cables AND are much better monitors... and without a mediocre webcam, storage and a chip, a fixed cable and "good-enough" speakers that will end in a landfill once the monitor is dead. "♻" (if you honestly believe this product has to do anything with the environment and cycle lifespans you are dumb as bread, sorry) My complete comment was about Apple setting the wrong focus for too much money. I didn't say anything about quality or that i don't like the superb machining, but it's a dumb monitor. It failed to be the core product it's supposed to be, for materials and features that don't really matter.
@bobhanuman65
@bobhanuman65 2 роки тому
I disagree. There is no other 5k monitor with the built in features at this price point.
@kekchanbiggestfan
@kekchanbiggestfan 2 роки тому
Fun fact: the Studio Display can detect which orientation it’s in and switch the content to portrait automatically, but neither of the stands let you rotate it
@andreirachko
@andreirachko 2 роки тому
I mean, a vesa-mount option will allow you to attach it to a rotateable arm, so...
@SuperSeigerman
@SuperSeigerman 2 роки тому
@@andreirachko but i thought the stand was not user upgradable.
@siddharthn.3839
@siddharthn.3839 2 роки тому
@@SuperSeigerman that's another option, you have to choose it while purchasing. . Can't Upgrade after purchase
@olivert.7192
@olivert.7192 2 роки тому
@@siddharthn.3839 yeah but you either buy it with the bad stand or good stand. There’s no option for no stand is there?
@siddharthn.3839
@siddharthn.3839 2 роки тому
@@olivert.7192 Nope. it's the normal, the height adjustable one or the vesa adapter. Interestingly, the normal and the vesa adapter cost the same here in UK and the if you go for Vesa, you'll have to get another stand to attach it. .
@thejuice1254
@thejuice1254 Рік тому
Amazing review. Literally I don't need to do any more research now. I won't get it for now because I need the money to pack all the juice I can into the mac studio. Funny how the Dell alternative you listed only cost around 100 bucks more than the stand upgrade for the studio monitor. So that killed it for me. I'm a big fan of the apple design functionality and I couldn't have put it better my self when your describing apples combination of unique features on products. But for this piece of kit that price is too high right now to pay for lovely apple niceness with the design functionality and also the power cable is absurd but ultimately I could get over that.
@nicolasleroy5138
@nicolasleroy5138 Рік тому
Cool video Marques! Would love to hear you more on resolution scaling
@Hobo_X
@Hobo_X 2 роки тому
On the verge of QD-OLED and considering the utterly insane stand vs VESA mount stuff Apple does, this monitor is just an absolute joke. I feel like you should have been much more angry about the attached power cable too. It's just completely unacceptable.
@pablofreitasmachado8076
@pablofreitasmachado8076 2 роки тому
Not only is it a bad deal, but Apple making this, sends a message to the industry that this is acceptable. IT IS NOT. THIS IS EXPENSIVE E-JUNK.
@eXoguti094
@eXoguti094 2 роки тому
so true, specially when you realize this will probably be on sale for 5 years lmao
@psp785
@psp785 2 роки тому
Qd-oled won't be for monitors
@richardm9306
@richardm9306 2 роки тому
“unacceptable” This is the first time people cared about a semi detachable cable, it seems like
@adamek9750
@adamek9750 2 роки тому
@@psp785 it is, I bought one a few hours ago.
@richiemohanty5107
@richiemohanty5107 2 роки тому
If you take into account the $400 stand option for height and tilt adjust, you find yourself comparing a $1999 monitor with a $1299 and $589 option.
@manthe3711
@manthe3711 2 роки тому
I got a 27" IPS, 144hz display (with a stand!) for fucking 130€. I don't care how well Marques argues for 12 minutes, people who buy Apple products are getting robbed hard, and consenting through the whole thing.
@richiemohanty5107
@richiemohanty5107 2 роки тому
Agreed. I run two Dell 27 inch curved monitors, both height adjustable, tiltable and easy to remove stand for a VESA mount. Both cost a combined $450. I get it, people who need color accuracy for their work cannot use what I'm running but Apple charging a premium for basic QoL features is robbery.
@neolordie
@neolordie 2 роки тому
@@manthe3711 you need to compare black levels and colors tho, 100% dci p3 color space isn't cheap
@80b
@80b 2 роки тому
@@manthe3711 FHD is junk these days.
@marksaxon
@marksaxon 2 роки тому
I have a Dell 27” Ultrasharp connected to my Mac Mini. Great quality and only $450. Oh it doesn’t have a webcam but a $70 webcam will fix that and honestly be the same quality.
@HealthyBusinessTech
@HealthyBusinessTech 2 роки тому
Great review. Love your style and the points you make. You opened my eyes!
@user-od4gh8xo1s
@user-od4gh8xo1s 7 місяців тому
Your videos are a pleasure to watch, thank you.
@sirgreen2792
@sirgreen2792 2 роки тому
I was really impressed with this monitor but I can't get past how much of a horrible deal this is now.
@Gltokensp06
@Gltokensp06 2 роки тому
I'd be impressed if it had impressive features...
@OHOE1
@OHOE1 2 роки тому
Chromebook has a lot better cammers
@ahsanrasheed4959
@ahsanrasheed4959 2 роки тому
Dude just for height adjustment extra $400 smh.
@sirgreen2792
@sirgreen2792 2 роки тому
@@OHOE1 😂😂
@tony77tony77
@tony77tony77 2 роки тому
you're paying for the logo brand name not how good the monitor is.
@teohyc
@teohyc 2 роки тому
It's a monitor for Apple fans. If you open your options to non-Apple displays, there are so many capable options to choose from. Non-removable cable is not a thumbs down, it's silly.
@ahappycoder2925
@ahappycoder2925 2 роки тому
I’m an Apple fanboy. I’m not buying this, I’m buying a used Apple Thunderbolt Display on eBay
@codechannel528
@codechannel528 2 роки тому
Every other monitor other than Pro Display and Huawei Mateview are ugly and plastic.
@TheRealMafoo
@TheRealMafoo 2 роки тому
No, it's not. Most Apple fans hate this monitor because it represents everything those who make fun of Apple, think Apple is. It just adds fuel to the fire.
@TiMCoop3r
@TiMCoop3r 2 роки тому
Are there any options that use glass in the front? That’s a huge deal for me when I’m looking at text all day
@abubakrakram6208
@abubakrakram6208 2 роки тому
@@ahappycoder2925 It's macOS, not Windows. There is no ClearType. That 1440p display's gonna look horrible on post-Mojave macOS.
@TheHadhad1000
@TheHadhad1000 2 роки тому
Bro your reviews are always spot on! you special with this.
@Ohemaa
@Ohemaa Рік тому
So if this is not a good deal which monitor is best for the studio?
@PhilipWallage
@PhilipWallage Рік тому
Would love to know... But I guess, as always the answer is "it depends". What are your needs? I'm in doubt about waiting for a Dell 6k (hello Retina) or going for something OLED'ish.
@47ARENA
@47ARENA 2 роки тому
$399 for a stand? Wow! Looks like a GREAT deal😂
@lymelvin
@lymelvin 2 роки тому
400 bucks for a stand? WHAT A STEAL🤑
@lonzie
@lonzie 2 роки тому
Hey, it's less than half the price of the Pro Display XDR stand right? So it must be a bargain
@DariusCarv
@DariusCarv 2 роки тому
The stand is free, you don’t have to buy the height adjustable one
@CallmeDaddy21
@CallmeDaddy21 2 роки тому
@@geogmz8277 still a terrible deal
@sax7760
@sax7760 2 роки тому
@@DariusCarv But the non-adjustable is too low
@nicksigalas4498
@nicksigalas4498 2 роки тому
I can’t agree more. You can get an iMac 24” with the same display technology with less money. *AND ITS A WHOLE COMPUTER WITH PROCESSOR KEYBOARD MOUSE AND STUFF*
@randomizednamme
@randomizednamme 2 роки тому
But then you can’t plug your “modular” Mac studio into it because iMacs don’t have display in 🙃
@Cantendo
@Cantendo 2 роки тому
The Studio Display also has an Processor :DDDD
@MoisesZTech
@MoisesZTech 2 роки тому
Apple really loves to fuck their customers over
@nathansstuff1547
@nathansstuff1547 2 роки тому
@@randomizednamme Feel like older ones did.
@SlowCarToChina
@SlowCarToChina 2 роки тому
Dude, it’s only 24”. The 27” is barely large enough.
@Puntonghua
@Puntonghua Рік тому
I decided to go for the EIZO CS2740. For me the colours (100%-ish adobe rgb) and especially the bit depth (true 10) is most important.
@IanClark357
@IanClark357 2 роки тому
This is one of the best reviews I have seen on anything. Excellent example of being actually non biased and open to being honest about the product. Very helpful in making sure people don't make the ridiculous decision to buy something that is way way way below the standard. I have been a Mac fan for the last 13 years now and most of what I have experienced with Apple has been stellar. There are the obvious things to hate about the company Apple which I hate just as much as anyone. For the most part, when the products are weighed in the balances the upside outbalances the down side. In regards to this monitor, the downsides totally outbalance any upside hands down!! I had already placed the order for the Apple Studio Display to pick up the next day in Toronto on April 16 when I was browsing around and kept running into other review comparisons that showed clearly to avoid this piece of garbage. I simply cancelled the Apply order. After buying a Samsung on the 16th that I found barely used on Kijiji, spending a lot less money and getting a 5X bang for the buck over the Apple, I then also saw this review today. This one completely seals the deal 100% about NOT buying the Apple Studio Display and I hope that anyone who has purchased one of these returns it asap. Marques is one of the best out there period and I only just heard of him this morning. I just subscribed today and wish I would have seen his youtube well before this. Thank-you!
@tronam
@tronam 11 місяців тому
After testing and returning 4 alternatives from LG, Dell and Asus, I purchased the Studio Display and absolutely love it. No regrets.
@ko-Daegu
@ko-Daegu 10 місяців тому
@@tronam u r rich we get it good for ya
@RubesM
@RubesM 9 місяців тому
@@tronam same
@tronam
@tronam 9 місяців тому
@@ko-Daegu I’m not rich - I just live light and am pretty good at saving money and budgeting long term expenses. I’d rather spend more for something that will last me 5-10 years than cheap out on essentials. I tend to spend more on shoes, displays and headphones because of how much I use them on a daily basis and I want them to last.
@zoltanzana
@zoltanzana 8 місяців тому
@@tronam The lack of features will be a deal-breaker for the vast majority of people who’re in the market for a new monitor. The studio display is overpriced, the built-in webcam is mediocre, there’s no HDR support, it uses an IPS panel instead of mini LED, there’s no promotion support. In 2023, most other brands wouldn’t dare to sell a 60Hz monitor in this price range to mainstream consumers.
@DonnyDon90
@DonnyDon90 2 роки тому
Amazing what Apple can get away with sometimes. They make some great products, but some others represent a clear abuse of brand loyalty lol.
@aronbijl4109
@aronbijl4109 2 роки тому
Not for long, people will notice. For example. I am considering Linux, although I am a vivid Apple user from 2008 till now. Design is certainly nice, but the there are so manny other things I do not like.
@booradley3146
@booradley3146 2 роки тому
@@aronbijl4109 The moment Adobe has Lightroom and PS for Linux I would be there in a heartbeat. MS and Apple have just become a basket of bad apples. :S
@aronbijl4109
@aronbijl4109 2 роки тому
@@booradley3146 Indeed, Apple, MS became a basket of bad apples. I use an alternative to Adobe almost as good and way cheaper: Affinity Designer, Affinity Photo and Affinity Publisher
@srinivassoulful
@srinivassoulful 2 роки тому
Not brand loyalty... Just plain cruelty
@aronbijl4109
@aronbijl4109 2 роки тому
@Xavier Breath I agree 100%
@ocatvio1594
@ocatvio1594 2 роки тому
This guy gets invited to apple events, gets exclusive interviews with people from apple and still has what it takes to give out genuine impressions about products like these!!! That is why he is my number 1 source for all tech related things!!
@firstsoldier4257
@firstsoldier4257 2 роки тому
are you new here bro?
@NBABIGANT
@NBABIGANT 2 роки тому
@@firstsoldier4257 got to be
@Anonymous-pm7jf
@Anonymous-pm7jf 2 роки тому
What are you talking about? This is a overpriced piece of crap and he is sugar coating all the negatives. This is blatantly huge rip off.
@NBABIGANT
@NBABIGANT 2 роки тому
@@Anonymous-pm7jf facts
@danteviperbrandolini
@danteviperbrandolini 2 роки тому
Yes, Marques Brownlee is a Straight Shooter! He's World Class @ His Craft.....😝👻👻👽
@mikemiville3009
@mikemiville3009 Рік тому
Can you recommend a great 4K monitor to go with the Mac Studio I just ordered? I’d like 32” or larger. Just had an IMac for so long that I’m not even sure what to look for. I’m a photographer/videographer.
@jcam783
@jcam783 Рік тому
I'm in the same boat Mike , leaning towards a Mac Studio ,but am not quite sure which way to go on the monitor . I have an older NEC PA241W but don't think it will do the trick .
@mikemiville3009
@mikemiville3009 Рік тому
@@jcam783 I actually made a decision and chose a monitor today. I went with the MSI Prestige PS341WU monitor.
@theoriginalKland
@theoriginalKland Рік тому
Nope. Because Apple has made it so that every other monitor that isn't made by Apple will look like @ss. Get an old Apple HD monitor. You can go third party, but everything will look weird and bloated. Thank Apple for purposly crippling their machines.
@theoriginalKland
@theoriginalKland Рік тому
@@mikemiville3009 Good Luck! Do you know where the hidden display options menu is? Because you're probably going to need it lol.
@mikemiville3009
@mikemiville3009 Рік тому
@@theoriginalKland hidden display options menu??? Oh boy. I have no idea. Guess I’ll be doing some more research.
@MihaiDolganiuc
@MihaiDolganiuc Рік тому
I have this monitor for a few months now and it’s been great so far. Amazing colors, the brightness is really strong, good sound from the speakers. I do graphic design and it’s a very powerful tool.
@AbstractMan23
@AbstractMan23 Рік тому
Which version, fixed or height adjustable? 👍🏻🤔
@MihaiDolganiuc
@MihaiDolganiuc Рік тому
@@AbstractMan23 Height and Tilt adjustable.
@MrAtomUniverse
@MrAtomUniverse Рік тому
I'm considering it, i can't find anything comparable in the market other than Huawei Mateview(weird ratio), LG price range isn't that far off apple display , plus it's a plastic case which is really ugly design.
@mochirisa
@mochirisa 11 місяців тому
I agree, I got this monitor 2 months ago over the LG Ultrafine 5K (which cost more in my country because it’s harder to find) and I love the colours so much
@sergthemane
@sergthemane 11 місяців тому
Does it have deeper blacks than the 24” m1 iMacs or is it the same?
@xarfram
@xarfram 2 роки тому
For this to be a good deal, I think it'd need to be 120 Hz (or higher), have height adjustment in the base model, a better camera (not necessarily an excellent one, but something better than that), and of course a removable power cord. Considering Apple's done all of this before I don't think that's a huge ask, it just needs to be put in one device
@rodrigojds
@rodrigojds 2 роки тому
That’ll be for the next iteration of screens. That’s how companies work.
@dolphin069
@dolphin069 2 роки тому
@@rodrigojds that’s how Apple operates. Churn out half finished hobbled garbage, next year the S version gets another essential feature that the competition had 5 years previously.
@talkadelics
@talkadelics 2 роки тому
you Nailed it. Couldn't have said it better myself
@S_wali
@S_wali 2 роки тому
So basically replace everything "special " about it 😂😂😂. Might aswell cancel this product. it doesn't need to be 120hz , it either needs to be a better panel (brighter with better contrast) , and has to have basic vesa mount & cable not magsafe just a removable cable and stand . Every monitor I know of has a mounting mechanism , especially recent ones . Same with cables . They were better of powering this monitor with 5 lighting cables lol
@urmumscow3206
@urmumscow3206 2 роки тому
Then make that perfect display and sell it at the same price, let’s see what you can do
@dr.fischie1801
@dr.fischie1801 2 роки тому
The fact that Apple wants 400$ for a standard "upgrade" feature that even my old 100$ monitor had is astounding. This company is just giving every consumer the middle finger. Holy crap.
@SuperHornetA51
@SuperHornetA51 Рік тому
And people still defend them
@raccoon2276
@raccoon2276 Рік тому
@@elroxmusic blindly? he just gave you 2 reasons and left out tens of avoidable stuff apple does to make a quick buck and give the middle finger to customers, its not blind is it
@kuoliu5419
@kuoliu5419 Рік тому
My cheap Kia has more function than Ferrari F8, it doesn't even have a central display.
@Solidsnaik
@Solidsnaik Рік тому
How the fuck is a product like this even aimed at “every consumer?” If you don’t like it then don’t buy it. I’m glad your $100 monitor fulfills your needs and you should be too. Imagine NEEDING a product like this and then being angry that an unnecessary luxury is priced appropriately.
@beclops
@beclops Рік тому
What's your $100 monitor made of?
@nicktubach2652
@nicktubach2652 Рік тому
Really good review!
@josephs9339
@josephs9339 Рік тому
Great review. You are a star!! Hard working man and so honest. I just love this guy
@jidenshaotoko
@jidenshaotoko 2 роки тому
As someone who owned an Apple Thunderbolt Display with an unremovable cable, it gives anxiety to know such an expensive display also has one. The cable on mine deteriorated over time for no reason to a point where the display would constantly lose signal. Had to throw it away since it was out of warranty and the amount Apple was asking to fix it could be used to buy a non-Apple display brand new.
@thebeatconnect1
@thebeatconnect1 2 роки тому
LOOL and Apple wants to reduce e waste. 😂😂 They only do things that benefits them
@danteburritar2822
@danteburritar2822 2 роки тому
My Thunderbolt Display is still in great condition. I look after my stuff.
@luca_sbll
@luca_sbll 2 роки тому
Wouldn't signal loss come from a display cable though? I feel like the power cable can't really have much to do with that
@jidenshaotoko
@jidenshaotoko 2 роки тому
Cue the superiority complex driven comments.
@Natsukashii1111
@Natsukashii1111 2 роки тому
@@luca_sbll i believe he was talking about non removable display cable on that Thunderbolt Display.
@Apprendre-Photo
@Apprendre-Photo 2 роки тому
For me, the 400$ stand convinced me to buy another monitor. Such a basic feature that's actually mandatory if you don't wanna develop health problems, should be included in the base version. Buying another, I discovered other monitors look like shit on Apple unless you trick the computer to think it's an Apple display through software. Nice.
@k.vn.k
@k.vn.k 2 роки тому
Exactly the reason why I am “stuck” with Apple monitor. You really can’t go with other monitors (except the one approved by Apple, and even then it’s not the same crisp).
@orvvro
@orvvro 2 роки тому
How do you trick the computer?
@soots-stayingoutofthespotl5495
@soots-stayingoutofthespotl5495 2 роки тому
I might have actually been interested if that stand was included, even though it sounds contradictory to say that I'd probably rather have an updated and improved iMac 27" anyway (which is non-adjustable, height-wise). And that's partly because the all-in-one system is something of a statement piece, a bit of furniture almost, but mainly because it just looks neater. On that note, I think it's horrible the way you can see cables with the Studio Display if it has been lifted-up a little; couldn't they have supplied some kind-of clip that goes into that slot, to force the cables to route through the gap as high-up as possible?
@Testikillz
@Testikillz 2 роки тому
I've never heard of people having to get apple displays with the monitor. I brought the 28 inch bezeless Samsung (no idea of the name) and it looks clean as fuck on my mac. I have just had to send it away because the ports in the back have become lose... typical Samsung cheap shit - but quality wise I wouldn't plug it into a mac vs pc and thing it looks worse. Never heard that one before
@hillstones
@hillstones 2 роки тому
@@puffpuffpuff I did a few google searches and could not find any articles that would explain how to do this.
@FrodoBeutlin1984
@FrodoBeutlin1984 Рік тому
Happy to watch your video and keep myself away from a bad choice.. thx a lot and greetings from Germany!
@Begreen9
@Begreen9 10 місяців тому
Good review. It would great to see a comparison review with competitors.
@iau
@iau 2 роки тому
Imagine paying $1600 for a monitor without High Refresh Rate or HDR.
@KTBTALIBAN
@KTBTALIBAN 2 роки тому
Would gotta be trippin
@martinqizeaq
@martinqizeaq 2 роки тому
Apple users: instant buy.
@waterbiscuit9222
@waterbiscuit9222 2 роки тому
And it’s not OLED or mini LED either. IPS isn’t terrible, but hasn’t been the best for a while
@Enidx10
@Enidx10 2 роки тому
@@martinqizeaq Am Apple user. Instant buy for me. Literally as soon as they announced it I went to the app and preordered it and now staring at it while I type this comment. Best purchase, no regrets.
@arvs0z
@arvs0z 2 роки тому
@@waterbiscuit9222 mini Led displays still show some teething issues (aside from its low yield), and mainstream OLED screens still suffer from ghosting and burn-ins specially for studio setups like this. I’m not sold on the Studio Display, but for this price range I’d say IPS would be the best choice.
@leeartlee915
@leeartlee915 2 роки тому
The $1000 stand still ranks as one of the most “wtf” things apple has ever done. Unless the engineering on that thing rivals NASA’s tech, i don’t get it.
@E4xtream
@E4xtream 2 роки тому
It probably does. But did it need to? No.
@patrick9403
@patrick9403 2 роки тому
Or the $700 wheels
@michielwillems9881
@michielwillems9881 2 роки тому
Wow wow wow... lets not forget about the 700 dollar wheels 🤣
@richardm9306
@richardm9306 2 роки тому
ok
@MoisesZTech
@MoisesZTech 2 роки тому
And don’t forget the slaves who earned $0.0 for this
@twisterwiper
@twisterwiper Рік тому
This is actually the only option if you want a glossy desktop monitor, which in itself is pretty mind blowing. Why aren’t other manufacturers filling this gap in the market?!!
@bren.r
@bren.r Рік тому
You’re preaching to the choir brother. I would easily pay $3k for a mini LED 120 Hz 5K glossy monitor. That ticks all the boxes I’d want for a monitor.
@tronam
@tronam 11 місяців тому
⁠@@bren.r Thunderbolt 4 lacks the bandwidth for 5K/120hz, but perhaps TB5 will make a display like that possible someday.
@bren.r
@bren.r 11 місяців тому
@@tronam No it doesn't. TB4 can handle 5k120. DSC is a thing you know.
@tronam
@tronam 11 місяців тому
@@bren.r TB4 does not support resolutions above 4K at 120Hz.
@bren.r
@bren.r 11 місяців тому
@@tronam yes it does. Read the specification.
@Xeoncross
@Xeoncross 2 роки тому
It's worth noting that you can control screen brightness from your keyboard which is something most other non-mac monitors don't support. If you work in a bright environment during the day and then use the same screen at night it's nice to be able to tone down the display.
@TheFirstRealChewy
@TheFirstRealChewy Рік тому
I'm thinking that's not a big deal. If you are doing color critical work then you may take extra steps to control the ambient light.
@YashTrivedispaceport6492
@YashTrivedispaceport6492 Рік тому
You can control screen brightness with keyboard, i have functional addressable keys for my PC and it's not a mac
@romanbennifir6020
@romanbennifir6020 Рік тому
So I should get that vs oled for cheaper cuz kf brightness?
@swapnilmankame
@swapnilmankame 10 місяців тому
You can do it on windows.
@tambourinedmb
@tambourinedmb 4 місяці тому
it’s a big deal for me. i’m so used to the feature on my imac, also being able to put the display asleep
@smagliaro
@smagliaro 2 роки тому
This has been my fundamental problem with Apple's design philosophy through the dark ages (butterfly keyboard era). They're intentionally choosing to under-design a product that _could_ be insanely competitive despite the fact that they'd still be able to line their pockets if they just made something better. Every power user is just going to be resentful of the limitations here despite them being the very demographic they're targeting. They finally made Macbook Pros a legitimately compelling product again, and this feels like a huge step backwards. How are they selling an _entire_ Macbook Pro with better screen tech for $2k and then turning around and selling this monitor for $1600? Their pricing/spec philosophy is conflicting with itself. Sure, it's a "nice" monitor overall, but the design decisions to get it here are clearly shady and minimally competitive. Ultimately, I hope this product fails so that Apple does better next time. $400 for a few inches of height adjustment? Get the absolute fuck outta here. Just _make a great monitor_ and charge the typical Apple price for it.
@Natsukashii1111
@Natsukashii1111 2 роки тому
Issue is that they got halo product that are there to make lot of money, like the mentioned MacBook. Then they got this display that they know will not sell a lot and is just there to say that it exist, that use repurposed components from their others device. Like the 1000$ stand or wheels, this is a design statement and if some dumb rich minimalist buy it then that's an added bonus. We are there comparing price, they are just waiting for that one guy that only know one store, the apple store.
@jacobstern4630
@jacobstern4630 2 роки тому
@Male Sensitivity the entire M1 lineup (at least the M1 macbook air and pro) have all been shockingly good value, or at least worth their price if used to their extent. This monitor simply does not meet expectations for a studio monitor in 2022 as Marques states. It fails to produce a display beyond the basics (60hz LCD IPS) excluding its 5k resolution.
@smagliaro
@smagliaro 2 роки тому
@Male Sensitivity The stand(s) and power cable are blatant shortcomings that very clearly have profit-driven motives behind their design. They're 100% anti-consumer and sacrifice actual usability/flexibility in favor of predatory pricing and repair practices. You could argue that for almost any of their products to some degree, but the last few years have generally been an upswing for the value of their lineup. The new MBPs and iPad Air have been actual showstoppers, which makes this monitor feel that much more egregious by comparison.
@GreenBlueWalkthrough
@GreenBlueWalkthrough 2 роки тому
Yeah Apple has a serious problem beliving it is a Botique design company. When it is a tech company that focues on making tech for non tech people. How ever it doesn't necerly wants to limit it's profit to the 1% it also wants their prices to be low enough for meanstream or even the poor in 1st world contries to buy them.... Basicly Apple has no real audence on paper yet it has Apple fans and are 1 of the reachest companies dispite their lack of focus.
@chidorirasenganz
@chidorirasenganz 2 роки тому
For one all in one devices are always cheaper than getting separate devices (MacBook vs a display) The studio display is larger, brighter (600 vs 500) and pushing more pixels (5k vs 3k) The studio display isn't the new pro display. Hence why it doesn't have mini led.
@ReviewsPK
@ReviewsPK 2 роки тому
12:11 killed it!! ROFL that was hilarious!
@VKDante
@VKDante 2 роки тому
Lol that was brutal.
@TheRohnjackson
@TheRohnjackson 2 роки тому
Yep! Along with that outro. He nailed it.
@malindahicks4292
@malindahicks4292 2 роки тому
😭😭😭
@hk6474
@hk6474 7 місяців тому
I love how honest this guy is
@lele__2007
@lele__2007 7 місяців тому
I think that apple should make speakers too, but I think the intention of them is to include good speakers into their everyday devices like iPad, iPhone and so on, in order to not have to bring an extra speaker if you wanted to listen to high quality music.
@Leanzazzy
@Leanzazzy 2 роки тому
I don't even want to talk about how sad it is that Apple is ripping customers off just for simple features like an adjustable stand. When you can get OLED monitors for less than half the base price, anyone would have to be mad to buy this.
@sarthakjain1824
@sarthakjain1824 2 роки тому
The like to dislike ratio on this video is the worst one i have seen on a mkbhd video
@Leanzazzy
@Leanzazzy 2 роки тому
@@sarthakjain1824 How are you seeing the dislikes? UKposts Vanced?
@thebasketballhistorian3291
@thebasketballhistorian3291 2 роки тому
And the built-in camera, which was supposed to be a key extra feature, doesn't even look good.
@stanleyc2978
@stanleyc2978 2 роки тому
@@sarthakjain1824 youre seeing a fake like/dislike ratio btw.
@qwerty112311
@qwerty112311 2 роки тому
I have a half dozen coworkers who jizzed in their pants and ordered it the moment the store reopened. Their only justification: omg camera so good. KEK all reviews say it is trash.
@WilliamWelsh
@WilliamWelsh 2 роки тому
The biggest thing for me was the 60hz refresh rate. For $1600 you can get a G9 which is 240hz and way bigger
@diverman1023
@diverman1023 2 роки тому
There is no excuse at this price that this monitor doesn’t have at minimum 120Hz
@MansaBC
@MansaBC 2 роки тому
G9 lmao!
@MrM3gaLaugh
@MrM3gaLaugh 2 роки тому
@@MansaBC glmao 9
@richmahogany1710
@richmahogany1710 2 роки тому
and HDR, and variable refresh, and local dimming.
@MansaBC
@MansaBC 2 роки тому
@@richmahogany1710 and poorly reviewed.
@zoltanbatiz
@zoltanbatiz 2 роки тому
Great video. It’s the build quality that makes it difficult for me to bother upgrading my display which is Apple’s LED Thunderbolt 27” display. That’s built the same way, all metal . . . built in speakers, camera, etc. Oh and I can remove the power cable. LOL
@markrussell.
@markrussell. 4 місяці тому
Oh, I was so close to buying one of these. I am so glad that you're review popped up in my feed between the power cord that crappy WebCam and honestly the price especially if you want to go for an adjustable up and stand I gotta start looking for something else if anybody has a suggestion, please let me know.
@Workmusic1988
@Workmusic1988 2 роки тому
Even when critical I love how honest and objective you are, it’s not over the top, it is what it is, no fluff or fake clickbait. It’s so refreshing
@HoldFastFilms
@HoldFastFilms 2 роки тому
Right? I don’t understand why people have to be so emotionally invested in objects. Like, if you want it, get it. Otherwise, move along. Having said that, i feel like someone is going to tell me how wrong i am.
@3xP90
@3xP90 2 роки тому
@@HoldFastFilms stupid ass money is also a thing. For thousands of dollars you are giving us 480p shitcam. It's a joke. Your philosophy works for rich kids. Just want it get it lol. Rich kids are stupid don't know when you can get a lot better deal in less money. They just want to show off
@m_jade3602
@m_jade3602 2 роки тому
His review seems so "people-pleaser-not-to-hurt-any-sentiments" kinda...it's annoying and honestly just not up to par..only the video quality keeps increasing
@3xP90
@3xP90 2 роки тому
@@m_jade3602 yeah. It's annoying. If a product is bad just say it's shit. Why u gotta stretch it. I get it he's interviewed That Apple guy and will again in future that's why he talks carefully. But a person like him says it's trash then apple even might consider things
@antkao
@antkao 2 роки тому
@@3xP90 I just came to watch how he’s gonna paint this shitty apple product into something people should pay money for and… he doesn’t disappoint ;)
@wolfetrax
@wolfetrax 2 роки тому
The power cable doesn't come out the back... and the LG version has a removable power cable (standard IEC). I'd say the LG Ultra Fine is worth it for that alone.
@theengineer-dellconagher
@theengineer-dellconagher 2 роки тому
it does come out* *if you pull _really_ hard, of course
@MoisesZTech
@MoisesZTech 2 роки тому
Anything under $500 is better than this crap
@ChickenOfMajesty
@ChickenOfMajesty 2 роки тому
While I think it’s dumb that it doesn’t come out, why does anyone care? It’s a desktop monitor that you’re not going to move. Why does it matter if it’s removable?
@brianm.595
@brianm.595 2 роки тому
The power cable does apparently come out. Linus demonstrated it on a stream. Keep in mind he had to wrap it around his hand and they could feel the monitor housing bending but it did come out. It was a proprietary connector.... apparently Apple doesn't want you to remove them for some reason though.
@rnrbnl7097
@rnrbnl7097 2 роки тому
@@ChickenOfMajesty Same reason why your desktop tower has a removable cable. Why do you think it is removable?
@IrixGuy
@IrixGuy Рік тому
Excellent video and that is SUPER WEIRD about the power cable being non-removable.
@dixitpatel8735
@dixitpatel8735 Рік тому
got me thinking today when i watched your mac mini review, you should do 'the best apple monitor alternatives' piece :)
@bigsean6045
@bigsean6045 2 роки тому
8:13 lol, i see what you did there 😂😂
@mathew_pang
@mathew_pang 2 роки тому
I thinkApple know the market position of this display is not meant to sell good , it is there to boost the sales of current iMac 🖥 and the next 27 iMac 🤣
@sarthakjain1824
@sarthakjain1824 2 роки тому
Not good for apple is some million units
@Samuel.55
@Samuel.55 2 роки тому
They’ve discontinued the 27” mac.
@daniel_960_
@daniel_960_ 2 роки тому
It's there for people going to the apple site to buy a display. Many businesses and people will love it because it looks fancy. And it's quite functional. With 5k, 600nit, speakers, webcam. So it's for people who don't care about money looking for a nice display.
@ChirdXtreme
@ChirdXtreme 2 роки тому
Why would they sell another $1800 27" iMac when they can squeeze $3600 out of you for the Mac Studio + Studio Display? Apple keeps yelling the scam at their customers and they keep responding "OMG I NEED IT"...
@daniel_960_
@daniel_960_ 2 роки тому
@@ChirdXtreme now you can also buy 2 monitors instead of 1
@lifeofswine
@lifeofswine Рік тому
that sigh of frustration at 3:25 made my day.
@siranthonybattle
@siranthonybattle Рік тому
That basketball star comparison was hilarious! Great video
@supanor
@supanor 2 роки тому
man, the QUALITY of this kind of videos, solid 11/10 for me. also, imagine paying almost 2 grand for 60Hz in 2022. hurts.
@TikTokToo1
@TikTokToo1 2 роки тому
You mean it hertz? :)
@keymochi_
@keymochi_ 2 роки тому
@@TikTokToo1 oof
@oTKoSkarzock
@oTKoSkarzock 2 роки тому
@@TikTokToo1 get out.
@Scorpiove
@Scorpiove 2 роки тому
Yeah, Marques really does have the best reviews.
@frereM
@frereM 2 роки тому
@@Scorpiove Absolutely! Straight talk, common sense, sly humor...and hedoesn'ttalksodamnfastthatyoucan'tunderstandhim!
@ricardodiazrodriguez1812
@ricardodiazrodriguez1812 2 роки тому
Imagine you have a iPad, iPhone and MacBook 120hz and than a studio display with 60hz….for that price
@jonathanmichael99
@jonathanmichael99 2 роки тому
My guess is if you have enough for the rest..... stop complaining? lol
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl 2 роки тому
nobody needs 120Hz, thats useless luxury on a monitor. that will be a thing for the premium version, this is the cheap model.
@tilumu8799
@tilumu8799 2 роки тому
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl „Cheap“ 😂😂😂
@JFinns
@JFinns 2 роки тому
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl For productivity it's still nice for scrolling and animations on my 165Hz monitor but not a dealbreaker. For gaming it's HUGE and there is no going back.
@jonathanmichael99
@jonathanmichael99 2 роки тому
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl I think the point he's making is that there IS a premium end model, but it still has 60hz.
@ethandutoit
@ethandutoit Рік тому
4:02 Marques, I love your videos and all, but why do you use Final Cut without the magnetic timeline? It’s FCP’s best feature and it sets it apart from Premiere. Why???!!!
@MJayFarr
@MJayFarr Рік тому
Great review; thanks for the info and depth of assessment.
@RealRiffRaf
@RealRiffRaf 2 роки тому
You almost had me on the first half with that closing argument about whether it is a good deal 😂 That’s how you end a review, honesty above all!
@mckidney1
@mckidney1 2 роки тому
Honestly I loved this video, the only thing I find difficult to swallow is the lack of VESA mention. Getting a VESA at the store should be the default choice for anybody practical or even not experienced with IT. Monitor that charges money for a height adjustable mount in a world, where we fill landfills with Dell height-adjustable VESA stands.
@Natsukashii1111
@Natsukashii1111 2 роки тому
The worst thing is that you cannot just buy a third party adaptator after the fact. You have to bring it back to a store for them to make you pay a premium to put the Vesa stand. But then you will not be able to put it yourself on the original stand. So you have to bring it back to.... Yeah well...
@Mit_yourfriend
@Mit_yourfriend Рік тому
I prefer to spend that bit extra for a decent monitor. I have the LG 5K which works great for me but I need another and was looking at this monitor. However, the non removable power cable is a deal breaker for me.
@adria4K
@adria4K Рік тому
I always enjoy your reviews. Fantastic job.
@SparkyTheInvincible
@SparkyTheInvincible 2 роки тому
$2K for 60HZ LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@malcolmgruber8165
@malcolmgruber8165 2 роки тому
For that extra $400, I can buy a extremely superior arm mount with more actuation action...this whole monitor, even from a monitor buying stand-point, IS AN AWFUL DEAL.
@toanluduc8718
@toanluduc8718 2 роки тому
Exactly...
@Ender275
@Ender275 2 роки тому
You could literally buy an oled TV and mount it to a monitor arm for that kind of price
@ultraret
@ultraret 2 роки тому
Yes you could-- but then you will not have a stand if you ever want to sell it or use it in a different way so they save on material and cost and you still pay the same. They should just make all the monitors cheaper and make a vesa style stand for 199 which is sold spectrum. Like the Eve spectrum
@MajorTendonitis
@MajorTendonitis 3 місяці тому
My interest in the studio display and apples studio computer was for photography, as I thought it would be colour calibrated the best . I’ve also wondered about how text looks, as we can only see the screen saver at our local Staples in my area
@adamjmartinez1349
@adamjmartinez1349 Рік тому
They used to make a speaker. It was like a boombox/iPad dock with auxiliary port that could run off of like 6 D batteries or be plugged in. I had it. It was loud enough, supper heavy; I liked it.
@magnusmuir
@magnusmuir 2 роки тому
It never fails to amaze me how eloquent, informed, reflective and subtly hilarious your videos are man. You are without a doubt, the voice I look to hear on any new product. You managed to articulate a lot of my concerns while also acknowledging the very real desire to have one. Appreciate you so much MKB!
@heather7119
@heather7119 2 роки тому
Agree 100 %… especially with the low key shade and humor I’m seeing more and more he’s such an intelligent humble class act and fun to watch and learn from 🙂
@michaelbaxter1564
@michaelbaxter1564 2 роки тому
Apple seems to be making some backward decisions. The last time I saw a hardwired power cord with in 1997.
@magnusmuir
@magnusmuir 2 роки тому
@@thequakerlight4871 yeah I find mrwhosetheboss goes into exhaustive detail that occasionally I find myself skipping through, whereas I find that Marques asks the abstract questions that always help justify a products creation. Both are great, I just have a special place in my heart for MKBHD.
@kas4751
@kas4751 2 роки тому
Just a disclaimer, the webcam that Marques was promoting, he's a shareholder in that company. But I agree, the built-in webcam quality isn't what I expect it to be. I'm not in the market for this type monitor anyway, I cant afford it. I can't afford the LG too. They're just not for me. The Dell, maybe.
@dawsongooch4194
@dawsongooch4194 2 роки тому
Gotta say, not a huge fan of tech relevant undisclosed financial positions for tech reviewers. Do you have a link showing he's a shareholder? Couldn't find one myself but would like to see what's it there.
@evvok7408
@evvok7408 2 роки тому
@@dawsongooch4194 he mentioned it in a previous video
@kas4751
@kas4751 2 роки тому
@@dawsongooch4194 he disclosed it once in a video called “My everyday tech: 2022” at minute 3:10. I agree I think it’s very important to disclose these things upfront so you know the possible motives behind the recommendations and claims.
@salmiakki5638
@salmiakki5638 2 роки тому
@@kas4751 I think that it's fair to demand from him that he discoses it every time he mentions it and talks about competitors. The viewer doesn't need to know the entire catalogue of videos of a tech *reviewer* when it comes to a video for a tech *review* and needs to know where his biases lands. he should be more upfront about it because he would benefict from it the most: as a reviewer his credibility it's why people come to his reviews, undermining it this way feel kinda dumb
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 роки тому
The advantage of the Studio Display is that it has an A13 chip and 64GB storage so can be improved on with updates. Apple has already confirmed an update is coming for the camera.
@FISHH00KS
@FISHH00KS Рік тому
Thank you. I was on the fence about buying a Mac Studio and watched several "middle of the road" reviews. This was wholly accurate, backed with receipts. Sorry Apple - I'll wait.
@davidpearson1788
@davidpearson1788 2 роки тому
Hay quá cô mây ơi🤗,con chờ mãi bay giờ cô hd rồi. Con chúc cô mây sang năm mới an khan thịnh vượng vạn sự như ý❤
@yannick7049
@yannick7049 2 роки тому
Alright, so let me get this straight. Apple took an iMac 27", ripped out all the PC hardware, and sells that for roughly the same price. Yeah, this may be the only monitor for its very specific usecase, but lets not pretend your not getting screwed over here. This isn't a monitor that's worth $1600. Also, its kinda laughable to say that the UltraFine 5K is "5 years old" and then pretend like this display is a new thing when it is later - rightfully - pointed out that this is just the same display panel Apple has been using for years.
@TheEchelon
@TheEchelon 2 роки тому
Very valid points, but panels aren't the defining parts of the image quality. They play a big role, sure but not everything. Take Sony Bravia TVs, they use the same panels as some LG models, because OLED is proprietary to LG, yet their Bravia engine and processing make the image quality arguably better. But I do agree that this particular product just seems like a very bad deal with some weird design choices.
@raccoon2276
@raccoon2276 Рік тому
@@mukeshjain1140 those are things that you pay extra grands for that come standard in monitors half the price, its such a terrible deal for the majority
@beatknightgaming3361
@beatknightgaming3361 Рік тому
This is very true. Plus, *LCD?!* I also wish the refresh rate were at least 144hz.
@deathhimself1653
@deathhimself1653 Рік тому
@@beatknightgaming3361 Apple making a product for gamers? Not gonna happen. Apple is too cool for gaming. unless you're on mobile
@groberti
@groberti Рік тому
@@beatknightgaming3361 I mean 120Hz would be enough as well tbh
@anaguma90
@anaguma90 2 роки тому
60hz LCD for that price is an absolute joke. Apple laughing all the way to the bank
@arandomhumanbeing2464
@arandomhumanbeing2464 2 роки тому
That’s barely relevant for the target market of this display
@Enidx10
@Enidx10 2 роки тому
they got my money lmao! love this display
@nongmaithemavinash3977
@nongmaithemavinash3977 2 роки тому
@@arandomhumanbeing2464 target market of who? Apple fanboys?
@arandomhumanbeing2464
@arandomhumanbeing2464 2 роки тому
@@nongmaithemavinash3977 professional creators, of course. No ordinary user or “Apple sheep” will buy this
@nongmaithemavinash3977
@nongmaithemavinash3977 2 роки тому
@@arandomhumanbeing2464 there are way better deal with similar specs for professionals. And again if you are an artist, this ain't even touchscreen. For that price it's still a terrible deal for professionals.
@SunnyBear
@SunnyBear Рік тому
This is the best review I have seen of this monitor and I agree with all points. Thanks a lot!
@Doritocrypt
@Doritocrypt Рік тому
That last line & last second of the video was just so satisfying, lmao.
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