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Exactly, these kinds of Love Bombing moments are common in abusive childhoods.

Prolly the most insightful thing i read all day, well said and very true

Very accurate.

1000%

His part as Louis was a huge part of our childhood. I still go back and watch the show and movie so.etimes

misdemenor criminal tresspass aint shit. $200 fine. IF you dont get one as a young man, youre doing it wrong :P

For real. I liked the Evens Stevens movie, where they’re stuck on that island, lol. Holes was great too

He was such a crazy and funny character in even Steven. Special guy he is

​@@scorch4299 ummm... okay? I guess that makes all of his other issues are irrelevant then... somehow.

@@Horsemanray dont pull the tooth put a push up is good enough

So why didn't you like him

150% bot account. look at the username.

​@@sammoony9687hainaaa, and it's only 5 month old

Stupid bot account.

Right on man! I've been thru similar and it takes a while till your ready Thank goodness we got out.

I grew up with a pedophile step father, a dad that abandoned me, and a bipolar self medicated mother. I got my teeth knocked out by a man at a bar, because I was an angry drunk. I'm lucky to still be alive.

yeah I think so too just off of vibes alone

Half of them would never understand the pain that some people have lived through and those same people are the same ones who judge others 😂 not saying Shia is justified of course

thats soo true

It takes a lot for us to even admit this to ourselves. Because no one WANTS to be a victim, or feel victimized. For me, I started being abused about the age of 10 with physical, s*xual and verbal abuse lasting until I was big enough to fight back somewhere between 15 and 16. But I was so damaged that my brain actually erased most of this. I have large chunks of my memory growing up that is just blank. And the few memories I did recover was enough for me to decide I'd prefer to not dig any further. Because there's obviously enough horror in my past that the only way I could protect myself is suppressing large chunks of my early life. To this day I've never really gone in specifics, and often do my best to avoid thinking about it at all. Its truly hard to come to terms with the people you're supposed to trust and rely on as a kid breaking that in serious ways.

@@NeiasaurusCreations I'd argue some do enjoy being the victim aha, fine fluctuating balance of both in the world

Allen....funny seeing you here.

As a man, and a Boy and a son and a grandson and a son of a man and dad from a son of a man dad i find this confusing

calling yourself a son is crazy

this is what happens when you have children.. the second you do, it's inevitably child abuse.

It’s lies , so sad

He’s a woman beater.. do better

I'm sure he wouldn't want anyone's pity

why does accountability hurt more

I think she embellished a bit

​@@krampusiscomingtotown I know right. He seems like a really troubled dude who is trying to learn and be better. What he did was completely out of line and just wrong but if you don't give him an opportunity to change then he'll continue being that person. I hope he can be better himself

@@krampusiscomingtotown They mean it hurt to know it was 100%(?) true. Someone telling the [alleged] truth about it is not common, so it’s shocking to hear. I also was shocked he admitted to it.

@@stefanharris659 Yes I give him that and I am sure the guy above me saying how it hurt when he admitted it knows that too but ultimately doesn't erase the damage he has done. It's not even up to us too forgive him it is up too the people he has hurt. If he says he will work on it and actually becomes better as a person, good on him he will not have to do what he had done again.

He lied that entire podcast you airhead

Both of them seems like shady characters. Jon stories about his time in russia sound fake as hell. No wonder why they are best friends.

@@markekondrat9614 watch the episode. Regardless of your opinion of them as people it’s a pretty raw conversation

Can I please have your Ig?

@@iAnon666 Of course it is raw, emotional and intense. They are actors and there is a camera in front of them. I meet my share of bullshiters in my life. I'm not saying that they are lying but anything they say I'll take with grain of salt.

I can't imagine. King behaviors, man. You go!

you dropped this king 👑

I can relate, respect to you friend!

Congrats bro

Congrats dude, for real

Facts. Darkness within those eyes.

Stop talking about demons like they're a psychological phenomenon instead of what they are the children of the watchers read 1 Enoch and stop breaking God's laws.

So you can just forgive him for abusing several women and driving around killing stray dogs for fun. Some people are sick for supporting that utter dog shit of a human being after everything came out about him, and you sir are one of them

Idk, my interpretation is that even with how bad I feel for him and his horrible experiences, the fact that he claims to be lying about his father's abuse is so strange and makes it hard to trust him at all.

The way I’ve always seen it is someone had it worse than me & im alive. My dad would beat the breaks off my brothers & I for the most trivial things but all I do is look forward. We were always clothed & fed. Not saying it was right but it wasn’t as bad as a lot of others went through.

Yup I know that look well

It's a problem in all cases of abuse, trying to illuminate it is so difficult when the underlying mental problems that create this dynamic are invisible to the public consciousness. Some pretend nothing ever happened, some pretend nothing good occurred. But both within and without nobody understands what the situation actually is.

This and also the fact that all children want to be loved by their parents, which makes them surspress or down play a lot of the traumatic events. I think for humans it is worse to be not loved by their parents than to be mistreated by them.

OMG That's me! I can relate to this so much!

So many are just like him tho, the difference is that they’re not famous.

@@mika9883 that is so true, a lot of us have become forgotten and slipped through the cracks

you just described like 75% of Disney child stars

@@MastrBaitr Well at least Olivia made it out alright, I still bump that Sour joint at the crib

I'm sort of amazed people never got the sense he was mentally unstable? Every roll I've seen him "act" in, well it was apparent to me!

So he's just copying other people?

@@49er16 no? Taking inspiration from others and reframing it for your own purposes is like 90% of art. Copying would be taking something someone else made, making barely any changes to it and then claiming you came up with the idea in the first place.

90% of art is NOT taking inspiration form others and using it for yourself. That is an absurd opinion. @@Salted_Fysh

@@49er16 is it? How so? Every artist who has received formal education in art has looked at and learned various styles used by artists that came before them. They have spent countless hours mimicking or studying these styles to get a good feel for them before eventually arriving at their own and when each generation this source of passed on knowledge has only increased and been refined further. The subject of many art pieces are collated from various sources that represent the accumulated knowledge and experience of the artist. Quotation and inspiration is just one of the various methods to express this and to show respect to those who have tread the path before. Pretending to be original and unique in everything you do is blatant and disrespectful plagiarism at worst and at best arrogance borne from ignorance/naivety.

Hopefully he learn to keep his hands to himself to

Don't you learn that in kindergarten?

From what I’m seeing now it was him and what I’m hearing he is trying to be a better person, but people are picking on him and criticizing him like why is he lying? Blah blah one thing no one is what he’s really going through and there’s so many celebrities ever killed them, selves or died of overdose were because of that bullying in the media and people know Aaron Carter look good having him you know it’s hard to get better when you have people criticizing you it feels like and I’m sure they probably feel like you know people reading from the fail anyway so I can’t imagine how hard it might be, but from what I’ve heard shadow about trying to get better

​@@mommyissue why are you going on about

Yea. I think hes doing fine.. He just been blacklisted so only independent flims if that.

I agree - lookup Shia's Transformers "Nonononono!" compilations.

I use to love getting baked and watching even Steven's

Nothing about Transformers is 'phenomonal'

​@@ruthaderginsburg9506 your opinion 💀

Yeah and I'm the president of Denmark.

20 minutes too long 😂😂😂

If you watched the full doc, he admits that he lied about his dad's behavior during his childhood and that it was completely fabricated. He said his dad spanked him one time to stop him from smoking a cigarette and admits that was the worst of it.

I dated a girl in high-school whose 11 year old brother heard her experience that. Their mom had BPD, dad was an alcoholic. Seemed to be both loving parents but you know those things come with complications for a kid. He spent time in and out of the mental ward, got into trouble for stuff like drugs and having razors in school. Me and that girl broke up after a few years but I'm from a country place so unless you move away you never really completely stay out of the loop on people's drama. When he would have been like 19-20, he was suspected of sh**ting up some guy's car, and only months or maybe a year later he got arrested for breaking into someone's house with two other people, and the homeowner ended up dying. Eventually came out he was the sh**ter. I think he's doing 60 years right now. I always said that kid was nuts and he'd k*ll someone one day, and even though I empathized with what he must have felt when that happened to his sister, I used to tell her all the time the family would be better off without him because he was just trouble. I regret that. Too young to really understand I guess. Point is, I imagine even if that mom thing is the only true part of his struggle, that can be enough. Just knowing you couldn't protect someone who needed you.

​@Jalen Henderson That could be, but personally idk. If you read my book above (free on kindle) the person I've known who was most messed up went through the same thing. Sometimes people who came up awful will lie about it too, like say it wasn't bad. For different reasons. I'm not inclined to believe his convicted SO dad, or either of his parents, who let do stand up when he was 10 and open shows with "Hey mfs" and ended up splitting up, gave him the best life given how he turned out.

The mom incident can't be glossed over. There's a reason he brings up his Dad but never that ... That probably affects him more than anything else

"I n C i D e N t😳" Jesus fucking Christ

❤❤

What an amazing, insightful comment! As someone who was raised by an alcoholic single mom, I recognize every single thing you said here. It’s only been even more complicated by the fact that she quit drinking right around the time her first grandchild was born (my oldest) and has become the beloved Nana for all four of my and my sister’s kids. I’ve talked to my kids some about how she used to be and some of the things that I went through as a child, and they do believe me, but they can’t ever possibly understand what it was like for me or my mother during those times. Growing up, I was reckless, unreliable, aimless, and self-destructive. I was also responsible, loyal, caring, driven, and a straight-A student. The adults in my life saw the latter and wanted to help me, but they were all eventually scared off by the former. And unless you grow up in a similar kind of chaos to what you, Shia, and I did, it can be nearly impossible to know how to handle people like us. That’s why so many kids who grow up in abusive homes become adults who repeat the same patterns with the people in their lives-because not only do our parents fail us, but so do the other adults in our lives when they just don’t know what to do with us. I made lots of mistakes, lost out on a lot of opportunities that could’ve made my life a whole lot better, and was forced to take accountability and sometimes punishment for many of my actions. All of those things were just stepping stones for me, little growths and improvements here and there that helped me begin to build a "normal" life for myself. But none of it could compare to having my first kid. That changed everything for me in an instant. But I had to MAKE THE CHOICE to leave all that bad stuff behind EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. It wasn’t easy, and I had to do mostly all of it by myself, but the one thing that kept me going was my desire to not do to my kid(s) what was done to me, because I loved them more than I loved myself. My own mom wasn’t capable of loving anyone when I was a kid-I don’t think she was capable of even loving herself then. She had never been shown love when SHE was a kid, and had gone through her own heartbreaks and abuse, so I don’t hold anything against her now from my childhood. And as strange as it might sound to some, even with a bad as things were for me, I still credit her just being there no matter what with why I was able to know what it meant to love-even if I didn’t always love myself. I have always adored Shia, and not just because of his undeniable talent. I have always seen in him the same things I see in myself, always knew exactly where he was coming from, and always had an immense amount of empathy for him. I was always rooting for him, and was equally as thrilled by his successes as I was devastated by his failures. It physically pained me to see him repeating the same patterns of abuse on other human beings that had been inflicted on him, and I was scared for him that he would let that part of him win in the end-because sadly, that is most often the reality for victims of childhood abuse. And I am rooting for him even harder now that he has a child of his own that he has been able to shut down the Shia that hurts in favor of the Shia that just loves. Like you said, just because his own father was two different people to him growing up, doesn’t mean Shia has to be the same now.

Thank you let's see if he can stay out of trouble for a few years before we congratulate him on his life!👍

I keep saying this to people, why do they believe anything these people say? They literally lie for a living!

I mean it’s pretty sad how damning you speak of him. Is it not possible that perhaps each time he apologises he’s trying to better himself but he just keeps fucking up? Just like achieving something takes tonnes of failures and re attempts, so does bettering oneself. Doesn’t mean you’re always acting.

@@sabir1208 You do understand the difference between acting and lying ? Acting is impersonating a character and everybody is in on it. Lying has the explicit intent of obfuscating wrongdoings or giving someone wrongful information without them knowing. It's two very VERY different things. Just because somebody can act, it doesn't mean they lie more or less than anybody else.

Even Brando the actor every male actor wants to be like said actors are nothing special we are paid, liars.

This. People who suffer abuse often defend their abusers, even after the fact.

So he admitted it was bad and they decided to take it back? Isn’t that totally backward to what yo are saying ppl usually do? Lmfao ppl usually look bad and blame themself, they don’t first blame everything unless they lied.

I agree dude is def troubled and has SOME type of personality disorder/mental illness‼That didn’t just come up out of a hat. SOMETHING is broken with this dude.@@rars0n

Or he grew up like the person who he hated to become like his father. He doesn't want his daughter to hate him like how he hated his father. He knew he wronged his first wife and realized that his daughter is growing up being estranged from him and he does not want her daughter to see the crazy monster he has become. I hope he really wants to make amends with all the wrong things he has done with his life.

Good chance he lied about his Dad calling him. Sounds like his guilt was getting to him.

Did you see the end?

bro didn't finish the video

His father was abusive and a predator.

He’s abusive and an asshole

@@avacadocap9591wTF Even Shia says he is not!? The son! Who made a whole movie about him! What’s wrong with u

Wrong

It's always court ordered. People with Shia's ego, would NEVER, unless suggested by a lawyer, check themselves for anything, let alone rehab and then actually complete it voluntary. Yeah right,this kid has never finished anything he didn't wanna do. Matterof fact, he never did anything he didn't want to do.

@@caiusmadison2996 You are partially correct in that this happens most of the time, and can happen repeatedly in an addict’s life without ever voluntarily going (and often dying or becoming institutionalised as a result). But it’s incorrect to say that it never happens voluntarily. Often when an addict is actually able to get sober it was due to voluntarily seeking help after hitting a true bottom (and not being forced), if it never happened we would have far less recovering addicts in the world. Shia’s (and other famous people’s) status and life experience make it much harder to bottom out making it harder to reach the point necessary, but it’s absolutely possible and does occur.

Hope he never come back to the spot light it'll probably make everything worst

​@@caiusmadison2996 Do you just go around spreading your bitterness wrapped up as "in my day" nostalgia, in fact I know you do I've just seen your comments. In my day social vampires like you would just sit at home curtain twitching and complaining about immigration, I blame the internet.

Careful everyone... Not all addicts are liars.

So true. Also, when you’re trying to heal from that trauma, you go through a lot of anger and grief. When you process through all of that muck, you might even find forgiveness. Obviously he still loves his dad, and people without perfect childhoods can learn to come to terms with imperfect parents. The work to get there is hard and ugly. It’s continual, too. Been there

This caught my attention being such a genuinely positive comment. I hope you are doing well and are still just as humbled and inspired 5 months later by hydrating with the good stuff, water. I've also been exactly where you were and I can tell by the sincerity in this comment that you have an attitude that will end in personal success, not addiction. keep up the good work

I think a lot of people don't realize that not all abusive parents are selfish people whose child is completely accidental. Many are regular people trying to get by but get flipped over by their circumstances (poverty, addiction, unemployment etc.). In their mind, what they are doing is best for them and their children, which includes beating them up or ransoming their pocket change for substance. Once they realize their wrongdoing, they try to overcompensate by lovebombing (buying expensive gifts or taking them to trips) but never really completely address the situation so the cycle continues

I can relate with every single thing you said so heavily except my parents haven't apologised, acknowledged any wrongdoing, or made any real attempts at being better. And I can say that as of now, I definitely can't forgive them. While I understand the extremely complicated reasons behind why my parents are the way they are, and know that the abuse I grew up with was legitimately just purely a product of not knowing better, at this point with me being an adult and talking about them about it all they are now simply *choosing* not to know or do better, to the point they still laugh and mock me if I talk about the fact that beating a cowering, overstimulated autistic child to the point I'd regularly experience sensory overloads because of all the pent up stress, again as a child, was in fact abusive. idk, my emotions are too mixed and complicated and at the same time I feel bad and as if I'm ungrateful for continuing to be angry at them because of the consequences my upbringing has had on the kind of person I've become and the shit I'll need to work through just to be normal..

Ditto to all of you. My folks are truly kind and loving people... Yet they raised me in a cult, my mom was physically and mentally abusive (she was an abuse survivor herself, and I believe has some real mental trauma from that). She drives me nuts most times. My dad is great, but mom has manipulated him over the years as well. But I love my time with my dad. I struggle with my time with my mom, and the only reason I give her time is because she's apologized so many times. I can tell she means it.

​@jasonhaiad I haven't gone through something like that, but for some advice, I would tell you "if the people around you are the problem, then they are the problem", if you're not trying to interfere with someone's life, and just trying to improve for your self, then there's no reason to look down on your self, people around you could be a problem just as much as you could be a problem for the people around you, it's never a one sided story, but if your story is being affected by someone else's, you need to get away, you can try to help, but if they don't want it, they don't, you can only really look after your self.

@@jasonhaiad You are not ''bad'' or ungrateful for feeling the way you feel or being hurt by abuse you experienced. It's hard to ''chase away'' feelings of guilt, I understand, but you don't have to beat yourself up over the way you feel❤

It does seem like that, we are all players in the act of life, after all.

Surprised Patrick didn't mention when he plagiarised a comic book and then plagiarised his apology for the plagiarism. So yeah, lying about his dad would be in his wheelhouse. That said... I'm not sure he did. He may be walking it back to rebuild his relationship with his dad. We really don't know at this point and I'm not sure we ever will.

I’m almost positive him rescinding his childhood experiences is a lie in order to rebuild his relationship with his father, he’s never been afraid of hurting himself or throwing himself down the stairs, so him taking the brunt of the weight off his fathers shoulders is probably the reality we’re faced with as well as becoming a father himself. For myself, once I became a father, it made me realize how my dad was a human and all the mistakes he made were things I could have done and done much worse. These are things we grow and we learn about ourselves. He’s growing and always changing and his perspectives will probably change several more times. I still love him as an actor no matter what.

He’s literally even stevens in real life lol

@@agentmueller yeah. Especially since he still uses alarming but less harsh words like “fractured” and “wonky”. That’s not exactly a loving relationship, but his dad has his own shit and didn’t know how to go about it. His dad loves him and vice versa but that doesn’t mean that they always made the right choices. Sounds like good intent but bad actions. Shia now sees that in himself (because it can be cyclical). Trauma is grey.

Yeah I think he's being genuine now. You can tell when someone has real regret and an honest desire to better themselves. Not like those other celebrities who never apologize for anything, blame everyone for everything while constantly playing victim. Shia is a saint compared to those degenerates.

I think you nailed it

>Something tells me that he went through a substantial amount of abuse that was sandwiched in between loving moments from his parents He straight up admitted that he wasn't abused, and he said that his Dad was "loving at all times." So what exactly is telling you that he went through substantial abuse?

I love Shia. I'm glad you said this. People can change, they can do better. No matter how much they disappoint you. Everyone's journey in life is so different. I don't know who I'd be his shoes. But to me, a real man can acknowledge his wrong ways, take accountability, and actively try to be better every day.

That's still being in denial. I've been there and even to this day I'm still learning to accept EVERYTHING, meaning what people have done to you and what you have done to others. That's true acceptance. Naturally you'll move on and more opportunities will show down the line. You have to be able to accept it emotionally too, not just mentally.

Agreed ! 💪💪

Just be cautious of the kid Laroi video he completely made that one up for some reason but his other videos are great

@@desiredrapfilms wait, not saying you’re wrong but how do you know? Did someone expose it or something?

@@KnzoCrew he has a video on Laroi but I’m from Australia in his area and he just made stuff up and missed key parts

Agreed! I haven't heard of MOST the people, but he makes such great and understandable videos that I'll still click it. If nothing else, I'm entertained and I've learned about someone new to me.

yeah right. keep telling yourself that. it'll make you feel less like a loser

Thank you for sharing this ❤

People really think just realizing you're an addict should be rock bottom enough but if you still have a job it will never seem "that bad"

@@ChristinaFromUKposts precisely! Making the admission to yourself is just the beginning. Then comes years of walking back how you got to be where you are, understanding your coping process (or lack of more likely), and working out how you can be accountable to yourself and then another person. I'm not big on AA, but I've been to hundreds of meetings, and they got that part spot on.

@@huntsman145 "I also identify with the actuality that when people don't understand something, they fear and hate it."

he was lying lol.

He walked this back in a Vanity Fair article and said the depiction of his dad in Honeyboy was "f--kin' nonsense." Guy's manipulative.

@@y2ksurvivor Yeah, his heroin addict father was probably a stand up dad!

@@barrygaler3701 Of course. Im talking about the general statement alone I should clarify. That’s a fucked up thing to hear by itself.

@@darnellmajor8895 Ikr? With the shxt he lied about it’s like🙄 But the statement by itself is really dark and it hit hard.

It’s kinda a catch 22… Parents usually have a pretty detrimental effect on the kids. Our parents have a big effect on our bias and how we emotionally react in our bodies. But we have the power to control our actions and act not out of instinct but conscious will. We are who we are, we can’t change the character, but we can change how we play the game😉

Love this

I tought the same thing! I went through different stadiums in accepting my grief so I thought about it less like a lie, but more of a repainting of a picture he had about his childhood.

@@aTribeCalledCasey agreed

Dude, no offense, but your Grandpas must have been yoked!

Poor woman. I hate abusive men…. They just hit on weak women like they think theyre tough or something….

@@LilXancheXabusive women are just as bad

@Johnny G To be fair drugs aren’t cheap and when you have money to throw you end up not thinking straight and choosing ransom options

Shia has been in therapy and rehab

i didnt know my dad until i was 14 and tht stuff was wierd i still dont understand how im meant to fit into this world being that im rejected ev where its strange it feels like im an experiment and there testing to see how much shit i can take before i break believe me thats how it is

@dalroache wow that's exactly how I felt for Many many years , down to my mid twenties . I am holding strong with you!

@@dalroache my advice is to just be resilient. Life sucks, people suck and family also suck. But what you can do is work on yourself and when you raise a family right all the wrongs which happened to you. I've had to do this, I left home at 16 worked in sales become sales director for some companies when I was 23 and now I'm 34 I hold a position as CEO for a private equity company. Work on it and be tough, no excuses.

I dont think his father was "great". A child should feel safest and happiest under their parents roof. Exposure to violent outbursts, demeaning and hurtful words, surprise gifts especially after cruelty: these all negatively impacts a child's outlook in life. The child forms very strong but sadly maladaptive principles to help navigate the horror they know is waiting out there. It creates a lot of locked away confusions that causes unavoidable midlife crisis. I'm speaking from personal experience.

@@The_Ace. lol

Did u even watch the ending of the video, shia admitted that he vilified his dad and used him as an excuse as to why he's so fucked up but said his dad was always there and always loving

​@opiate bliss There's no way to know which version of events was the truth. Afterall, they are both completely contradictory and yet claimed by the same man.

They are not contradictory as he stated his dad was messed up but still loving, which sounds like every human. What a joke people always want to play the victim and blame everyone else especially the parents

You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you!

@@opiatebliss9233 his dad is still a sex offender prob shouldn’t be around children. I’ve nevet seen the movie either

this comment was very insightful thank you.

"i dont believe he lied about his Dad" but he himself says he did - so.... Guess we only want to believe people when its convenient

He said it himself he regrets making the film and he made his dad alot worse than he actually was in real life

This is why you must be honest because you eliminate the chance for people to find a lie and escalate it

​@@xBINARYGODxdramatization isn't defined as lying in film production bud. If you've had an abusive/neglectful parent, that you loved and adored. It's weird to call em as such. You will one moment, then the next recant and talk about the good times. Because as an adult it's like calling yourself those things. Idk how to explain it.

Hes a professional actor.. thats the big piece youre missing. Actors are paid based on how well they manipulate you

​@@thepervertedmonk2353 two things can be true at once

No you are just wrong. Admitting fault in a situation like Shia's is extremely painful. So it is honorable. I guarantee most people would have made way more excuses than him.

@@TheMulletOperator_77 Maybe in your corrupt Country. Admiting fault is what REAL men do. Nothing heroic by that.

Too bad he didn’t get some of the information correct though 😂😂😂

@@matt246