The election of George Washington was weirder than you think

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The first U.S. presidential election in 1789 had none of the features Americans associate with elections today: no campaigning for the office, no political parties or conventions, no primary elections. Election Day was in January rather than November. The Electoral College was taken seriously rather than being treated as a formality. This was the only election in which a state was disqualified from participating. And there was only one issue at stake: whether the Constitution itself should be scrapped.
The final results of the election were that George Washington received 69 electoral votes and John Adams 34, making them president and vice president, respectively. John Adams should have received at least 49 votes, but many of the electors who wanted to vote for him voted for other people instead because of a scheme that Alexander Hamilton helped create. So instead of Adams receiving 71% of the electoral vote as he would have, he only received 49%.
0:00 Introduction
0:35 Why 1789? Why not 1776?
2:59 The procedure for electing the president
6:41 How the states chose their electors
8:54 The major election issue
9:58 The New York debacle
12:04 What the anti-federalists wanted
16:46 The plot to prevent Adams from accidentally becoming president
17:31 Electoral College results
20:10 Conclusion
FOOTNOTES
DHFFE = The Documentary History of the First Federal Elections, 4 vols. (Madison: University of Wisconsin Press, 1976-89)
[1] Gordon S. Wood, The Creation of the American Republic, 1776-1787 (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1969), pages 128-132
Jere R. Daniell, Experiment in Republicanism: New Hampshire Politics and the American Revolution, 1741-1794 (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1970), page 210
[2] Neal R. Peirce, The People’s President: The Electoral College in American History and the Direct-Vote Alternative (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1968), pages 39-48
Lawrence D. Longley, The Electoral College Primer 2000 (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999), pages 18-19
[3] New Hampshire: The New Hampshire Election Law, 12 November 1788, DHFFE 1:790
Massachusetts: The Massachusetts Election Resolutions, 20 November 1788, DHFFE 1:510
[4] Gordon S. Wood, The Creation of the American Republic, chapter 13
Jere R. Daniell, Experiment in Republicanism, pages 210-214
Gordon S. Wood, Empire of Liberty: A History of the Early Republic, 1789-1815 (New York: Oxford University Press, 2011), pages 15, 35
The image shown here is the mural “The Anti-Ratification Riot in Albany, 1788” created in 1935 by David Cunningham Lithgow, located in Milne Hall at the University at Albany.
[5] Alexander Hamilton to James Madison, 23 November 1788, DHFFE 4:95
William Tilghman to Tench Coxe, 2 January 1789, DHFFE 4:125
Alexander Hamilton to James Wilson, 25 January 1789, DHFFE 4:148
[6] James Madison to Thomas Jefferson, 8 December 1788, DHFFE 4:109
Edward Carrington to James Madison, 19 December 1788, DHFFE 4:115
Pennsylvania Gazette (Philadelphia), 31 December 1788, DHFFE 4:122
A Marylander, Maryland Gazette (Baltimore), 2 January 1789, DHFFE 4:126
Marcus Cunliffe, “Elections of 1789 and 1792” in History of American Presidential Elections, 1789-2001, vol. 1, edited by Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. (Philadelphia: Chelsea House, 2002), page 15
[7] Tench Coxe to Benjamin Rush, 13 January 1789, DHFFE 4:140
Alexander Hamilton to James Wilson, 25 January 1789, DHFFE 4:148
Wallace & Muir to Tench Coxe, 25 January 1789, DHFFE 4:149-150
Tench Coxe to Benjamin Rush, 2 February 1789, DHFFE 4:160
Marcus Cunliffe, “Elections of 1789 and 1792” in History of American Presidential Elections, 1789-2001, vol. 1, pages 13-15
John Ferling, John Adams: A Life (Knoxville: University of Tennessee Press, 1992), pages 298-299
Ron Chernow, Alexander Hamilton (New York: Penguin, 2004), page 272
[8] William Stephens Smith to Thomas Jefferson, 15 February 1789, DHFFE 4:178
John Trumbull to John Adams, 17 April 1790, DHFFE 4:290
[9] Benjamin Rush to Tench Coxe, 19 January 1789, DHFFE 4:144
Benjamin Rush to Tench Coxe, 5 February 1789, DHFFE 1:401
[William Bradford, Jr., to Elias Boudinot], 7 February 1789, DHFFE 4:168
Federal Gazette (Philadelphia), 9 February 1789, DHFFE 4:172
[10] William Tilghman to Tench Coxe, 25 January 1789, DHFFE 4:149
William Tilghman to Tench Coxe, 9 February 1789, DHFFE 4:172
Benjamin Rush to Tench Coxe, 11 February 1789, DHFFE 4:173
Elbridge Gerry to John Adams, 4 March 1789, DHFFE 4:190
[11] Georgia's throwaway votes:
James Seagrove to [Samuel Blachley Webb], 2 January 1789, DHFFE 2:438
James Madison to George Washington, 5 March 1789, DHFFE 2:478
[12] John Adams to John Trumbull, 7 April 1790, DHFFE 4:290-291
John Adams to John Trumbull, 25 April 1790, DHFFE 4:291-292
John Adams to Mercy Otis Warren, 20 July 1807, DHFFE 4:292-293
John Ferling, John Adams: A Life, page 299
John Patrick Diggins, John Adams (New York: Times Books, 2003), page 42
Ron Chernow, Alexander Hamilton, pages 272-273

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@iammrbeat
@iammrbeat Рік тому
I'm so happy the algorithm recommended this to me. My video about this election is not nearly this good.
@andrewvirtue5048
@andrewvirtue5048 Рік тому
Mr. Beat for Governor!
@dirty_deeds3523
@dirty_deeds3523 Рік тому
Love that my favorite history Channel loves it as much as I do!
@pedrotasca9733
@pedrotasca9733 Рік тому
Mr beast!! Give money me
@jtb3797
@jtb3797 Рік тому
The most humble comment
@mrsatire9475
@mrsatire9475 Рік тому
Mr. Beat for president
@CMoore-Gaming
@CMoore-Gaming Рік тому
I think it is a bit ironic that even an election with "no political parties" had two dominate factions strategizing amongst themselves.
@tommylitz4543
@tommylitz4543 Рік тому
Federalists VS Democratic-Republicans
@Janzer_
@Janzer_ Рік тому
it's how human being view life. this vs that.
@garythecyclingnerd6219
@garythecyclingnerd6219 Рік тому
I don’t blame them for not knowing all first past the post voting systems result in 2 factions over time. It’s inevitable. But we could amend it to the ranked choice option which would be much more fair
@chrisf9156
@chrisf9156 Рік тому
Not ironic at all when the Electoral College is determined by a majority and the built in failsafe is the Representatives in Congress also by majority. The system is very much set up for a 2-party system.
@Zyn_Smooth6
@Zyn_Smooth6 Рік тому
There was always two parties, the federalists, and the anti-federalists
@nakenmil
@nakenmil Рік тому
It's kind of funny how in the first election they IMMEDIATELY starting gaming the rules, lol.
@multivision3646
@multivision3646 Рік тому
You know I’ve begun to accept that this is human nature. The ground rules should be designed to accommodate the gaming of itself.
@nakenmil
@nakenmil Рік тому
@@multivision3646 Unfortunately, yes. Rules must be robust enough to disincentivize too much strategizing. How to do that is clearly that difficult part, as we can see centuries later.
@Dacky1989
@Dacky1989 Рік тому
Yup the Nation has been dirty and corrupted from George Washington to George Floyd and beyond
@chicken29843
@chicken29843 Рік тому
@@multivision3646 probably not possible while keeping the government functional. We could do better though. Cutting corporations out of campaign funding would be a nice step. Would like to see term limits on Congress and and a change to the presidential term. 1, 6 year term for a president, no chance at reelection no bullshitting or getting cold feet or doing crazy shit to get reelected. Supreme court should also probably not be a lifetime appointment
@bigchedds8389
@bigchedds8389 Рік тому
@@multivision3646 it's not human nature. If that was the case they would have allowed everyone to vote during this election. Unfortunately they only allowed those who were already benefiting from the system to vote... Check out shays rebellion. It was a simple tax revolt (propaganda in America goes away back) that escalated after Massachusetts government turned a blind eye to citizens concerns (like them losing their land because of unbearable taxation...) George Washington actually held the opinion that this revolt needed to be stopped because movements pointing out the flaw inherent in the system tend to gain traction among the public... youll also find Massachusetts hired a private army to suppress the tax revolt since the the governor (James Bowdoin) couldn't get militia due to the articles of confederation. Oh and you'll notice ratification talks (introduction of big government/centralized power) began the same year as shays rebellion (tax revolt) 1787. Edit: and a few years after ratification was finalized you'll find one man now had the power to fall up armed men at a moments notice. Which George Washington used during the whiskey rebellion (another tax revolt.)
@pfcspencer11b
@pfcspencer11b Рік тому
Weve been fighting the same rural vs. urban, local vs. federal government arguments since our country's inception.
@jaygarcia6338
@jaygarcia6338 5 місяців тому
it's almost like it was flawed from the beginning 😭😭
@pfcspencer11b
@pfcspencer11b 5 місяців тому
@@jaygarcia6338 or to the rational mind, from the dawn of time power has been consolidated in urban centers and amongst the ruling class of those centers and our constitution was supposed to eliminate this because its always used to trample on the rights of the individual. Then morons got involved.
@woozie___
@woozie___ 5 місяців тому
And around the world before our country was even a thought
@jonathanc3001
@jonathanc3001 5 місяців тому
⁠​⁠​⁠@@jaygarcia6338there’s supposed to be conflict so that a middle ground is reached. Conflict does not mean flawed.
@SurvivingAnotherDay
@SurvivingAnotherDay 5 місяців тому
@@jonathanc3001wrong. Authoritarian communism is the only solution to this countries problems.
@DaRealKakarroto
@DaRealKakarroto 8 місяців тому
As an Austrian, this was quite interesting and enjoyable. I'm still startled by the fact that Mozart completed over 40 symphonies before the US had an elected president though, I never looked at it with that perspective. Shows again how young the US actually is ...
@zionismisterrorism8716
@zionismisterrorism8716 7 місяців тому
The US has the longest serving government. Other countries like Austria kept getting occupied or revolutions.
@seewhativescene
@seewhativescene 7 місяців тому
10 of the first 12 Presidents owned enslaved human beings- including Washington ​@@zionismisterrorism8716
@seewhativescene
@seewhativescene 7 місяців тому
US declared freedom from Britain in 1776- didn't "abolish" Slavery until 1865- nearly 100 yrs ​@@zionismisterrorism8716
@jonathanmccann1343
@jonathanmccann1343 6 місяців тому
To us Mozart seems like ancient history, the age of your nation molds your perspective
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 6 місяців тому
The whole "USA is very young" is kind of misleading, but it depends how you count the age of a nation. If you count from when the current government took power, most European nations would technically be super young. Some not even 100 years old. Problem is, no European (let alone most people) would count it like that. Although, the USA never had this issue as someone pointed out. I also think the whole "Americans have no culture" thing is misleading too. I'm sure someone will laugh at this example, but American Football is an American cultural phenomenon. Almost no one else in the world cares about it, yet there are Americans of all ethnicities that watch that stuff religiously. How can you deny that as a cultural phenomenon? Americans also heavily "Americanize" imported foods. I find it funny when people complain about Americans "having no culture," but then in the same breath whinge about how we're "doing it wrong." Yeah... Because it's American now. Just look at "Chinese Food" and pizza. It's a bit ridiculous to deny that as part of American culture now when it has been so heavily modified to the American palette. I think Europeans just like to deny aspects of American culture because we don't observe it in a traditional way like they do. It seems fair to say American culture is lacking in traditions, but not culture. At least IMHO.
@crazylegz324
@crazylegz324 Рік тому
Anybody can learn history but not everyone can lecture like this guy
@MystikalDemon
@MystikalDemon 8 місяців тому
that's a bar
@SLVYER1
@SLVYER1 6 місяців тому
Think about choosing the giant cannibal man with wooden teeth, over educated scholars. God bless America.
@Seiddac1776
@Seiddac1776 6 місяців тому
Extreme knowledge being displayed. Can’t be done without him having a full grasp of this entire era. He’s awesome
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 5 місяців тому
According to his bio, he's taught at the university level for a decade. He also did his PhD, during which he probably also taught some classes. He has a lot of experience.
@TheRealWattLife
@TheRealWattLife 5 місяців тому
Unfortunately no there are very few people who truly understand history.
@MarkHalberstram
@MarkHalberstram Рік тому
This video is a testament to the fact that interesting history clearly and competently told is more than enough to hold an audience’s attention. No jokes, gimmicks or jump cuts, just concise storytelling. I love it.
@haamulubechooka6908
@haamulubechooka6908 Рік тому
Precisely 👏
@exisfohdr3904
@exisfohdr3904 Рік тому
Precisely, storytelling. Storytelling 101: Tell a story to influence the thoughts of others in an effort to impact a specific social/political behavior. Clear biases were definitely demonstrated, although some would see them only as subtle. For something that happened that long ago, there were too many projected insights into the "feelings" of the described persons. I'm pretty sure I didn't see any reference to any documents verifying fears. I am also pretty sure no one alive today was alive back then as well. I'm not saying specific events didn't happen, or that things didn't happen specific ways. I'm just pointing out the underlying faults of storytelling.
@MarkHalberstram
@MarkHalberstram Рік тому
@@exisfohdr3904 Sure, but all history is storytelling. Historians make inferences based on incomplete knowledge and, where they place the events in a greater context, their own prejudices seep into the process as well. But I don’t think that’s necessarily cynical, certainly not in this instance, or makes history generally any less important or enjoyable to learn about.
@exisfohdr3904
@exisfohdr3904 Рік тому
@Marcus Halberstram the more enjoyable or entertaining something is, the more embellishments were likely used; making the overall experience less about knowledge, and more about influence.
@MarkHalberstram
@MarkHalberstram Рік тому
@@exisfohdr3904 There comes a point where you’re so committed to pure historic information that even engaging with historians is pointless and you should just consult primary sources.
@owenwillard5409
@owenwillard5409 Рік тому
i really did not expect to watch the whole video, but the way you tell this story is so enticing. it’s not flashy or too exciting, but it really holds on to your attention and is concise and well comunicated.
@premodernist_history
@premodernist_history Рік тому
Thanks!
@JMSouchak
@JMSouchak 6 місяців тому
I seriously love how often you mention that people today take all these events for granted.
@hatman123466
@hatman123466 Рік тому
The way he seems legitimately devastated for John Adams not getting as many votes as he thought he would 😂
@whittneykelly7220
@whittneykelly7220 Рік тому
I maintain that John Adams, even perhaps over George Washington, was the sole founding father who truly "got" that the US Constitution and our democracy were finite and who truly spent most of his life attempting to reason his way into a better system of government than the one his family left in England and that he helped create here. I'm devastated for him too!
@noneofyourbusiness747
@noneofyourbusiness747 Рік тому
@@whittneykelly7220 The US constitution as finite? That would be awful. Of course we need amendments, otherwise slavery would still be legal, for example. These people could not fathom what modern society would look like, or it's requirements.
@Raydensheraj
@Raydensheraj Рік тому
John Adams....I really dislike his authoritarianism concerning his legislations allowing him to imprison "critical members of the free press" and immigrants. In my unimportant opinion...his Son was the greatest gift he gave America. And of course him defending the Brits when he knew (thru his radicalized brother) how certain people would look at him as "British" apologist. But his core principle of trying to copy the British Christian Monarchy and their government make him anything but flexible or progressive. He was the original conservative that wanted Washington to be addressed as "Excellency" by the House/Senate....of course the Anti Federalists went bonkers and voted the idea down.
@busimagen
@busimagen Рік тому
@@Raydensheraj It was not _his_ legislation. The President doesn't create legislation, the Congress does, and they are the ones who passed the acts, and John Adams was very reluctant to sign them, and delayed, but was eventually pressured into doing so.
@kunmwas9437
@kunmwas9437 Рік тому
I felt for him too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ZALMOXIS743
@ZALMOXIS743 Рік тому
Way easier to pay attention to a lecture when the speaker isn't reading off a script, but actually knows his shit. Well done
@MostlyPonies1
@MostlyPonies1 Рік тому
There are too many generic fact channels on UKposts that have some hired host reading from a script. This channel's a nice hidden gem.
@dmtmediabrothers
@dmtmediabrothers Рік тому
Agreed. Funny how i could care less in highschool or college but this was cool to listen to.
@austin8775
@austin8775 Рік тому
He talks so slow it sounds like he is reading a document with tiny writing
@exisfohdr3904
@exisfohdr3904 Рік тому
Well, at least where the speaker appears to know their stuff. Often times, the more entertaining something is, the farther from the truth it is.
@Tmanaz480
@Tmanaz480 Рік тому
@Austin , slow compared to whom? Ben Shapiro? His pace is fine, and his enunciation is perfect so he sounds good all the way up to 2x speed.
@WilhelmPetersen
@WilhelmPetersen 6 місяців тому
I am an American and I found this fascinating to think of the colonies as separate countries
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 5 місяців тому
They were still united under the Articles of Confederation, but it was a very weak association.
@debbiewilson9712
@debbiewilson9712 3 місяці тому
Like Africa. That's the closest I can think it being like
@lachesachairulanam9137
@lachesachairulanam9137 2 місяці тому
​​@@debbiewilson9712 I think EU or ASEAN, but ASEAN doesn't have any joint military agreement.
@artofthepossible7329
@artofthepossible7329 2 місяці тому
You can thank the 1860s for that.
@klaytone6105
@klaytone6105 14 днів тому
You must live up north
@myradioon
@myradioon 6 місяців тому
His inauguration was just as weird, it was postponed. They made several Washington Inaugural Coat Buttons which are highly sought after. Some of them were made for the "false start" Inauguration.
@debbiewilson9712
@debbiewilson9712 3 місяці тому
Wow. Very interesting
@slouch186
@slouch186 Рік тому
Glad to know that politics was just as conniving, strategic, and "messy" back then as it is today. I sort of figured it had to have been, but rarely have I heard anyone go into the details like this.
@Darkfawfulx
@Darkfawfulx 8 місяців тому
It goes even further, all the way to Rome.
@konstantincvetanovic5357
@konstantincvetanovic5357 7 місяців тому
Yes always messy and strategic. But not always as corrupt as today.
@TwixtheWizard
@TwixtheWizard 7 місяців тому
Whatever you do don't look at a collection of German and Italian states that existed between 962 and 1806
@seewhativescene
@seewhativescene 7 місяців тому
​He owned slaves, former President trump declared war on half the citizens @@konstantincvetanovic5357
@seewhativescene
@seewhativescene 7 місяців тому
That has NOTHING at all to do with AMERICAN HISTORY, read the room ​@@TwixtheWizard
@DA-bp8lf
@DA-bp8lf 4 місяці тому
Thank you for the education! 😊 Something my High School Government teachers failed at. 👏👏👏
@johandjerf9054
@johandjerf9054 2 місяці тому
Man I just gotta say you make the highest quality historical content on UKposts I've seen so far. Never stop!
@callmekirkland8
@callmekirkland8 Рік тому
It's so interesting to hear about "strategic voting" in 1789 because we, as Americans, still do it today in some form during the primaries. Thanks for the great video.
@premodernist_history
@premodernist_history Рік тому
Thanks! Yeah, when I was working on the video I kept thinking how modern all of this sounds.
@bswearer
@bswearer Рік тому
There was a lot of strategy in the 1800 Election, particularly by the "Democratic-Republicans" (aka Jeffersonians aka Anti-Federalists... I find "anti-administration" most accurate) and especially when it came to exploiting the Electoral appointment systems in the states. Madison and Monroe were key influencers in the push for states to move away from district voting to legislatures appointing block slates, essentially "party" winner-take-all. That way they could maximize majorities, for instance getting all pro-Jefferson Electors in VA and essentially disenfranchising regional Federalist minorities who would previously at least get a couple of Federalist Electors. In fairness, Madison and Monroe saw this vulnerability illustrated in a couple of New England states (though not originally intended for such exploitative aims) and realized how effective it would become to securing a Jefferson win in 1800. Granted, there were still massive controversies in SC and GA, which to some extent had Adams "cheated" out of being reelected. But hey, we got Louisiana, the British got our debt, and the French (really, Europeans in general) got their decade of wars financed. Nothing new under the sun...
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 Рік тому
If only they had single transferable vote back in 1789.
@orionsghost9511
@orionsghost9511 Рік тому
Definitely sounds like the roots of rigged voting.
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 Рік тому
political sabotage is an American tradition
@tomblaise
@tomblaise Рік тому
As an American and History enthusiast I was surprised by how little I knew about this time period. Thank you for the very informative and enjoyable video.
@premodernist_history
@premodernist_history Рік тому
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
@jhonwask
@jhonwask Рік тому
I, as well was surprised and intrigued.
@ke11yke11z
@ke11yke11z Рік тому
Hamilton at his finest ☺️
@notaraven
@notaraven Рік тому
I remember a passing mention from history class that the vice presidents were the runner ups but never on how much of a mess this was. The strategy and almost conspiratorial efforts to win this election is also quite fascinating.
@ke11yke11z
@ke11yke11z Рік тому
@Alan Hagerty I agree with Jefferson. I'm grateful that the runner-up is not automatically the vice president. The president has to work with the vice president. If the president has a say in who they're working with there's more of a propensity for the president to work more effectively with the vice president
@andycbutler
@andycbutler 2 місяці тому
That was really great- you presented the material so clearly. Thank you & I hope you do more of these in the future.
@Panthers1521
@Panthers1521 Рік тому
I am blown away. Thank you so much for this video.
@mattolson6718
@mattolson6718 Рік тому
I like this guy’s style. No bias. Just straight history
@pewpewpandas9203
@pewpewpandas9203 Рік тому
Boom: False. All history is biased. Even when people are trying their best to be objective, they still determine which sources to use (and which not to) and how to tell the story. Some tellings are obviously more biased than others, but you should always be aware of and look for bias.
@pewpewpandas9203
@pewpewpandas9203 Рік тому
@@brianboisguilbert6985 Lol yeah, cuz that's just called being a good historian
@dougo753
@dougo753 Рік тому
@@brianboisguilbert6985 exactly, he could have gone on a rant about how only white men could vote at that time, but he stuck to the main facts of consequence to the very first election alone.
@endokrin7897
@endokrin7897 Рік тому
This is the first video of this gentleman's that I've seen, and I've subscribed. I can't STAND history that's told with a(n) (obvious) bias. Of course, some will say that there is ALWAYS bias, but this guy does a good job of just the facts. Had he talked about white men and landowners having the vote, it would open up the door for bias, especially in the comments. Anyways, this video was more than informative enough without getting into details like who had the right to vote. Not everything needs to be marinated in social causes. And my mentioning of social causes doesn't mean I lean one way or another. I just want to learn without being exposed to opinions! I'll form my own options soon enough
@joshcarter137
@joshcarter137 Рік тому
@@dougo753 objective history is multifaceted and layered. The “facts of consequence” should include the realities of all people. It was consequential that the people who were allowed to voice their opinion were exclusively only white men, just as it was consequential who was NOT included. All of the information included in this video is legitimate, but that doesn’t mean that this video captures every consequential detail. The real world is way too complex for that! Race and gender and class warfare are useful lenses through which to study history for many reasons, one of which is that they can be a great way to study how power maintains itself in our societies. Could be worth exploring, anyway!
@TheUltraHumano
@TheUltraHumano Рік тому
In the recently released "The Dawn of Everything", Graeber and Wengrow emphasize that, looking back from the present, historical events seem to us as sort of inevitable. They urge us to think differently, to think about the roads not taken or about what might have been. Videos like this show us that idea in action: nowadays, the US constitution seems for a lot of people like it was "manifest destiny" from the start. Nothing farther from the truth, as you have so clearly explained. Thank you for this effort.
@TBFSJjunior
@TBFSJjunior Рік тому
One reason why I like alternative history channels here on yt
@kaleb749
@kaleb749 Рік тому
Very very true! It really puts things like current labor movements into a new light
@ReflectedMiles
@ReflectedMiles Рік тому
It also gives one pause to think of whether Americans really would have wanted the results of a United States with a structure that looked much more like the EU does now, and how many states would have done their own version of Brexit at some point through history, leaving who-knows-how-much destruction of cooperation and common identity in their wake.
@johnny14980
@johnny14980 Рік тому
Very great point and I think about this a lot. Kinda like how he mentioned that NY didn't come to a consensus in time for the vote. What a disaster! lol. obviously wasn't supposed to happen and honestly, if I was a part of that I would've been doubting if this whole "United States" thing is gonna work. We definitely need to reframe our thinking when it comes to this stuff because it was just a bunch of regular ass dudes (extraordinary and intelligent, but regular nonetheless) that came up with all of this. And people that take huge risks today, not knowing if they'll work or not, will be regarded also as just "how things went down", even though it'll only be because they chose to do things their way.
@LazySillyDog
@LazySillyDog Рік тому
Imagine the country today without a inflated federal government. Turns out they were right about what would happen 🤷‍♂️
@TonyG_Film
@TonyG_Film 2 місяці тому
Just discovered your channel. Two periods in history that fascinate me: The American Revolution & the founding of the US Constitution and WW2. Thank you for this video. Looking forward to learning more.
@thejustifier6602
@thejustifier6602 Рік тому
1789 was a revolutionary time in history. Something like a republic with early democratic features hadn’t really been done before at this large a scale. There was a lot of debate that lead to the system that we have. The Federalist papers and Antifederalist papers are where we can trace the concepts for the constitution and bill of rights.
@premodernist_history
@premodernist_history Рік тому
It was a crazy time. They were definitely in uncharted waters.
@stupideunuchs6513
@stupideunuchs6513 Рік тому
Do you have proof.
@thejustifier6602
@thejustifier6602 Рік тому
@@stupideunuchs6513 there are no federalist papers obviously
@sabin97
@sabin97 Рік тому
not exactly at that large of a scale, but it was already done at a very large scale, by thte previous empire. yes i mean the roman empire. of course the usakistani empire has both more people and more territory, but the roman empire was also pretty large and populated. and it was the first democracy. the system you have was acceptable for the time in which it was conceived. today it's extremely flawed. it allows for 22% of the population to impose their will on 78% of the population.
@uncommon_name9337
@uncommon_name9337 Рік тому
Not to mention that they saw a really bad example with what was happening in revolutionary France at the time, they wanted to avoid fucking it up.
@melissaschramp7969
@melissaschramp7969 Рік тому
As a history teacher currently covering the new republic-era of the United States, this video was very timely! I teach about how different the Electoral College voting system was before the 12th amendment, but never really thought about how the system led to the strategic voting that you talk about in this video! I especially didn't think about how the system affected the candidates, particularly how throw-away votes hurt John Adams' feelings! Thank you for such a thought-provoking video--looking forward to the follow-up!
@josephmastroianni1560
@josephmastroianni1560 Рік тому
Work for Boston media starts Monday. 1 man called us an enemy 2.24.17. Media. It started a revolution. I'm just a regular person in Boston media. Quincy Ma. City of PRESIDENTS #Boston2024
@nicolethompson8613
@nicolethompson8613 Рік тому
The HBO John Adams series does a nice job of showing his heartbreak from that election.
@bigpimpmoneyjuice
@bigpimpmoneyjuice Рік тому
It also kinda demonstrates the ranked choice voting scheme weakness in how strategic voting can impact those results
@Delgen1951
@Delgen1951 Рік тому
@@bigpimpmoneyjuice yelp
@Gobothechairman
@Gobothechairman 2 місяці тому
I'm absolutely fascinated with your channel. An instant favorite indeed. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@im1sickpup269
@im1sickpup269 Рік тому
Great video, thank you for posting this.
@interior.imperial1
@interior.imperial1 Рік тому
It's really sad that a lot of Americans don't know about the Confederation-era and that America was a sort of EU-esque collection of states after 1776. As an American, it's pretty humbling to realize that the Constitution and our Framers' ideas for the national government was made essentially by throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what stuck.
@bswearer
@bswearer Рік тому
A confederation of states, which would still accurately be classified as a nation or country. The USA was founded in 1776 and henceforth has remained the USA, albeit with various alterations in the form of governance over its developmental evolution.
@daniellenm395
@daniellenm395 Рік тому
Anyone who paid attention in their high school government class will have a basic idea of all this. Problem is, most kids didn’t
@bradenharris8718
@bradenharris8718 Рік тому
In a recent study, 1 in 6 American teenagers couldn't name the first president of the United States. More than 50% of the teenagers who didn't know guessed that Abraham Lincoln was the first president. Those same teenagers when asked about Abraham Lincoln didn't know WHY Abraham Lincoln was such an important president and what he did but they knew he had a statue and they had heard of him so ergo he must be the first president. They ALSO thought that Black Americans were "freed" during the civil rights era of the 1960s and THAT'S what they thought the civil rights movement was about. Not equal rights, not to stop segregation, no???mmmmmmn bbb hbut Freedom from slavery. They thought that Americans still had slaves in the 1960s. That should be all the information anyone needs about the current state of America and it's education system.
@bruhism173
@bruhism173 Рік тому
Funny enough that's how its gonna be during the 2nd Big funni
@bruhism173
@bruhism173 Рік тому
@@bradenharris8718 goddamn, it seems I'm more educated than most Americans, and it was all self taught, literally 0 of it was taught to me by the school and I had go out of my way to defy the schools to keep studying history and got introuble for it, I don't regret it at all, George Washington Gang.
@StephenGillie
@StephenGillie Рік тому
6:30 Thank you for putting Longtudinal History events onto your timeline. Seeing worldwide historical events really puts history into context and makes it so much more vivid.
@selah71
@selah71 5 місяців тому
History was always boring until high school when I got a teacher who made it come alive and interesting they way you do. She also inserted tidbits of personal scandal that made them more like living people of history as opposed to just being "ho-hum" dead politicians, kings, queens, famous generals, etc. Since then I became a history buff. Thank you, Miss Crago!
@Critguards
@Critguards 6 місяців тому
Excellent and thank you for the citations that is a rare thing to see but it certainly well meet!
@grantforester1864
@grantforester1864 Рік тому
I always read that Washington got 100% of the vote, but I didn’t know our system was so wild before the 12th amendment. This video makes me understand why the Election of 1824 was so chaotic
@TheRenegade...
@TheRenegade... Рік тому
That was because there were too many candidates for one to get a majority, not because there was fear of the wrong person becoming president
@pjabrony8280
@pjabrony8280 Рік тому
1824 was after the 12th Amendment.
@SwayPromo
@SwayPromo Рік тому
It’s still wild 😂
@Rob_Enhoud
@Rob_Enhoud Рік тому
I recall being taught something similar, with Washington winning every state in the nation. This is only partially true with 3 exceptions. New York didn't vote for any candidate, Washington tied with John Jay in Delaware, and Washington tied with Robert Harrison in Maryland. Unlike today where most states have a winner take all election where their electors vote for the same candidate, the state electors not only could vote for different candidates, they almost needed to vote differently for the system to work.
@pjabrony8280
@pjabrony8280 Рік тому
@@Rob_Enhoud In 1792, Washington did win every state in the nation, which by then was 15 (Vermont and Kentucky had been admitted).
@salsa83
@salsa83 Рік тому
So glad I discovered this no nonsense channel. You are very informative sir!
@premodernist_history
@premodernist_history Рік тому
Thanks!
@neli.a
@neli.a Рік тому
@@premodernist_history Now let’s do a history of the Bill of Rights ( 12 were ratified, but oops only 10 filed? ) Many Americans have no points of reference, history of the drafts or the compromises that framers were forced to make.
@bryannacaldwellsoccer
@bryannacaldwellsoccer 6 місяців тому
Thank you for your videos, Perfect balance of pace, detail, graphics. Really enjoyable!
@kangel1561
@kangel1561 Рік тому
Wow! Just came across your video today and I'm impressed with your information, but also how well you presented it. New subscriber! Thank you!
@NeillWylie
@NeillWylie Рік тому
I'm a Scotsman and find this fascinating. I'm hoping that we can escape the tyranny of the British some day also.
@hazeluzzell
@hazeluzzell Рік тому
Tyranny is a bit strong…
@nickxii
@nickxii Рік тому
I'm an Englishman & I also hope to evade the tyranny of the British gov, we need a total overhaul the people should represent us not these posh mfs and tbf the royals have no place in modern society either
@InfinitePlain
@InfinitePlain Рік тому
As a Scotsman you should know what British means.
@nickxii
@nickxii Рік тому
@@InfinitePlain please enlighten me
@NeillWylie
@NeillWylie Рік тому
@@InfinitePlain The best part of you run down the crack of your mothers rear and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress. Let me explain to you why this is the case. Here is the definition of "British" right form a book called the dictionary. If you were aware of this book, you'd appear less of a "reprobate" which can also be found in the same book. See number 2. British adjective 1. relating to Great Britain or the United Kingdom, or to its people or language. "the British government" 2. of the British Commonwealth or (formerly) the British Empire.
@numinasarcadia1717
@numinasarcadia1717 Рік тому
As a Swede, this is fascinating. It’s quite the long process too. America is always very grand about things I feel
@sabin97
@sabin97 Рік тому
if you love america, you will love this. america isnt just usakistan. it's everything from alaska to tierra del fuego and nearby archipielagos. it's far more diverse than you might imagine.
@texmj123
@texmj123 Рік тому
@@sabin97 I'm pretty sure he means America as in the country United States of America. Not the continent
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 Рік тому
@@sabin97 just let it go.
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 Рік тому
It's not "grand", it just makes sure all viewpoints are listened to.
@sideofguac
@sideofguac Рік тому
Hahaha, I think I see where you're coming from, and am similarly amused. The irony of how we put on airs of being unpretentious in this way. And then the balloon banners and marching bands come out. Like, it couldn't just be an unceremonious collective clerical task. No, we need a GRAND COMMITTEE to meet, and then an EVEN GRANDER COMMITTEE formed from all of those, and a STILL GRANDER CONGLOMERATE OF COMMITTEES and nerdy old dudes in powdered wigs get all hot and bothered over it and need to step out for some air before they swoon at all the grandiosity
@-LiveFreeorDie
@-LiveFreeorDie 6 місяців тому
Please do more videos on American history, I'm obsessed with the way you present and format your lectures!
@Pushing_Pixels
@Pushing_Pixels Рік тому
Australian here, and made it to the end. I think American elections and American politics are fascinating because of just how weird they are. You guys do it differently to everybody else, and there always seems to be some kind of intrigue involved. You're the oldest of the "modern" democracies, a category that Australia also fits into, so it's interesting to see how things were done before there were other, similar nations to base things on. It was all really innovative and new.
@ziloj-perezivat
@ziloj-perezivat Рік тому
@The Joker Nobody cars.
@colinbisasky1134
@colinbisasky1134 Рік тому
An Aussie gave me a good run down on your system. He was at the time a senator's aid/staffer/whatever you would call him. It's interesting you're parliamentary like UK/Canada, but with a few important features borrowed from the US constitution (but without adopting presidential democracy in any way). Like the Senate being equal among the states, having only part of it elected at a time; and it seems to have some power to check the government a bit, that the Senate of Canada and the UK House of Lords do not possess. This is, of course, assuming I understood him correctly.
@Pushing_Pixels
@Pushing_Pixels Рік тому
@@colinbisasky1134 Yes. Our constitution was formed in the late 19th century, and only came into force in 1901. So the framers of our constitution had the benefit of having multiple examples of different systems we could base it on. In the end we chose a hybrid system, with our lower house based on the UK's House of Commons, and our Senate based on the US Senate. Like the US we are a federation of constituent states, so states rights was a consideration. Like the US we ended up with unequal representation in the Senate, with less populated states having the same number of Senators (giving voters in those states disproportionate power compared to other voters).
@onewordhereonewordthere6975
@onewordhereonewordthere6975 7 місяців тому
If this tax deduction the Aussies and Rebel s both have, isn't at least queer 😏 501 C 3 . NON PROFIT. 🤔 THE WORLD IS RAN BY EVIL ! MOST CAN'T GRASP ✔️🔚
@Haveyouseenmymom
@Haveyouseenmymom 6 місяців тому
Cubone xD
@teenietiff19
@teenietiff19 Рік тому
I learned more about elections in the first five minutes of this video than I did through high school.
@lynnwoodcarter3486
@lynnwoodcarter3486 Рік тому
Did u know the 13 colonies were in fact brown aka African Americans
@teenietiff19
@teenietiff19 Рік тому
@@lynnwoodcarter3486 I have not. But I am enjoying learning actual history as opposed to the whitewashed way we learned about it in schools. And passing that knowledge on.
@jonathanc3001
@jonathanc3001 Рік тому
Sounds like you didn’t pay much attention in high school then
@jonathanc3001
@jonathanc3001 Рік тому
@@lynnwoodcarter3486what are you even trying to say? Lol
@teenietiff19
@teenietiff19 Рік тому
@@jonathanc3001 I graduated with a 3.7 gpa I think I paid plenty of attention. Lmao.
@arthurmorgan6703
@arthurmorgan6703 12 днів тому
Thank you very much for this video. I'm amazed by how much I still do not know about my own country's history and how the electoral process works. Very interesting and informative. Subscribed!!
@jean-clauded5823
@jean-clauded5823 Рік тому
Thank you very much for insightful information I never knew. I am thankful that youtube recommended this to me.
@Adelphos12
@Adelphos12 Рік тому
It's always interesting to me when history is presented in an in-depth way like this; it shows that many of the problems we're dealing with in the present day, have been problems since their inception.
@cedricknarsiso4044
@cedricknarsiso4044 Рік тому
I've always Said this to friends that disagree with the way elections work here "it's a bug it's a feature"
@davidturoff8017
@davidturoff8017 Рік тому
Many of the problems are baked into the cake of tyranny. Check out article 1 section 8, the commerce clause, the general welfare clause. We the people didn’t have a say in the acceptance of the BS. It’s always been about them, the ruling class.
@MasterOfTheLemons
@MasterOfTheLemons Рік тому
I love your style of explanation. You speak so clearly and plainly, and even define certain terms that other educators might take for granted. You made me realize that, while I had a fuzzy idea of who the framers were, I couldn't actually describe it clearly until you spelled it out. Very accessible presentation, while also diving deep into the history and logistics of the election! Quite enjoyed this, your casual, layman's tone mixed with your unmistakable knowledge and familiarity with the topic makes for a great video!
@ChristopherNFP
@ChristopherNFP Рік тому
Your clarity of speaking is fantastic. Please dont change it. You articulate each word clearly. The speed of delivery is perfect.
@ApocalyptoX1
@ApocalyptoX1 4 дні тому
I love cool history! Thank you for sharing. Interesting perspective, and detail. Nicely done.
@notmemeoftheweek6674
@notmemeoftheweek6674 5 місяців тому
I've been watching your channel since that time traveling checklist for the medieval period. This one was fascinating and gave so much insight to things I hadn't seen considered. I thought it was just a simple 100% vote from the electoral college to elect Washington but this shows so much more of the story. I love the small details such as the scheme to make sure John Adams wasn't accidentally elected. It is comical to see just how human the founding fathers were and how many mistakes they made. My favorite part was when New York missed the deadline to vote due to the disagreement on how they should vote. It's just funny to think how loosely structured the government really was at the very start of our country compared to where it is today.
@Atombombmother
@Atombombmother Рік тому
Most schools/textbooks simply teach that "everyone agreed Washington would be president" and move on. But there were a lot of interesting details that foreshadowed the problems with the EC and emerging party system that culminated in the disastrous election of 1800
@coreyqueen8218
@coreyqueen8218 Рік тому
This content makes me so happy. No theme songs, no jokes or thrills, just a guy with a great voice giving me great historical information. Thank you so much!!!
@ay9240
@ay9240 Рік тому
Sus
@ChrisTallant
@ChrisTallant Рік тому
This was amazing. Please make many more!
@jeremybaumeister215
@jeremybaumeister215 26 днів тому
Just came across your channel and I'm binge watching. Fantastic work. Please keep it up
@niggaplease8119
@niggaplease8119 Рік тому
Thank you so much My Dear Brother…You will never be forgotten for this
@kaleb749
@kaleb749 Рік тому
This was super fun! It’s jaw-dropping to discover how much of my nation’s history is never taught, and just how much historical context hindsight bias has wiped from our textbooks and brains.
@nannettehuffman8397
@nannettehuffman8397 Рік тому
And he did this in 20 minutes! Lol
@rpraetor
@rpraetor Рік тому
Wait until you learn just how much of it was a compromise to maintain slavery!
@koolademasta
@koolademasta Рік тому
They did teach this in public school, but unfortunatly a lot of people sleep through it lol! My wife knows nothing about the Alamo and we live in San Antonio.... and I'm like THEY TAUGHT US THIS!! ha, some people just don't care to learn history, but prefer other subjects
@gushernandez25
@gushernandez25 Рік тому
One thing that is never taught is to discover and learn outside of class.
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому
We like to pretend our democracy an ideology rather than just a historic accident that was idolized.
@marktaylor8659
@marktaylor8659 Рік тому
I think this is the most succinct explanation of the first election and its results I've ever heard. Thanks for sharing this.
@gailowens1925
@gailowens1925 Рік тому
Thank you for this video. I was unaware of the initial way electors voted for both President and Vice Presidents were chosen! I thought I had a well rounded understanding of how our government was developed and agreed to! Nice to learn new information.😊
@leoalvarez8722
@leoalvarez8722 Рік тому
Good stuff. I'd be interested to hear more about the Articles of Confederation and the eight men who preceded Waahington as head of state.
@artphotoscamp5788
@artphotoscamp5788 Рік тому
I recently read both Washington and Adam's biographies. Washington knew of his inescapable future. And like you stated candidate self promotion was not a norm then. About Adam's reaction. His disappointment later became the almost powerless position Vice would actually be. Enjoyed your presentation!
@LeftoverPat
@LeftoverPat Рік тому
Which Biographies? I'm reading David MucCullough's Adams one now!
@artphotoscamp5788
@artphotoscamp5788 Рік тому
@@LeftoverPat that is the book. Very well done. Made me like Adam's more and Jefferson way less.
@roddyboethius1722
@roddyboethius1722 6 місяців тому
Thank you for this
@MusicalMoonMan2
@MusicalMoonMan2 5 місяців тому
Wow, I learned so much. I find this kind of stuff very interesting. Definitely going to share this video. Keep up the great content! -Matt
@ivanvz
@ivanvz Рік тому
As a Brazilian concerned with election logistics in general, and Brazilian elections in particular, besides being interested in history, I came to the end of the video thinking that we have a lot to learn from how things were done in the past and elsewhere.
@Cjnw
@Cjnw Рік тому
Let's hope that you win the next FIFA World Cup!
@einzelwolf3437
@einzelwolf3437 Рік тому
Bolsanaro won
@ivanvz
@ivanvz Рік тому
@@einzelwolf3437 He could've won. His attempt to buy out the people with last-minute social spending got him close, but it also blew up the country's budget for 2022 and 23. Like it or not, he will probably be prosecuted in the next 2-3 years and prevented from running for public office for a long time.
@ct6852
@ct6852 Рік тому
How much of the country supported the riot?
@SkySumisu
@SkySumisu Рік тому
@@ct6852 According to a poll done six days later, 81% of the population was against it, and 18% were in favor (1% couldn't answer for sure). Even among Bolsonaro's supporters, only 37% of them were in favor of what happened. Bear in mind that this poll had N=600, so the percentages of approval may be even less, those were HIGHLY unpopular.
@BS-vx8dg
@BS-vx8dg Рік тому
This was great. Like most people who remember their history classes from college, the first half was old news to me, but it was done concisely enough that I stayed with it for the main show, which for me were the incredible details about New York and New Hampshire and Maryland and the Anti-Federalist plot-that-wasn't. Great, great stuff.
@michaelbayer5094
@michaelbayer5094 Рік тому
And the real conspirator and manipulator was Hamiliton. No wonder Adams distrusted him, Jefferson hated him, and Burr shot him (considering all Hamilton's scheming it seems inevitable someone would shoot him).
@conlawmeateater8792
@conlawmeateater8792 Рік тому
@@michaelbayer5094 he deserved to be shot in that duel either Aaron burr. He was a big pusher for banking too. The bank of united states during the early 1790s.
@The762nato
@The762nato 21 день тому
Excellent presentation and an aid to my studies on American history . Thank You .
@thejacobite7880
@thejacobite7880 Рік тому
Such an excellent explanation of information & history in a very well done timeline.
@ballhawk387
@ballhawk387 Рік тому
Weirder, and much, much more complicated than i thought, even being well aware that history tends to be much less tidy than we tend to think. Great content, very interesting.
@transversed
@transversed Рік тому
Thank you for this channel! I started with this video and was immediately hooked. I’ve always wanted to delve deeper into what you call “premodern” history but haven’t come across any sources as approachable as this. I look forward to seeing more videos from you.
@vzshadow1
@vzshadow1 Рік тому
Thanks for this great video.
@TheMysticPete
@TheMysticPete 4 місяці тому
Great work, as always!
@armaansahgal6449
@armaansahgal6449 Рік тому
I love this video so much. We have this tendency to project our current assumptions (or tbh the assumptions of historians at different points in time) onto historical time periods at the expense of the nuanced reality of the not-so-distant past. We need more content like this on UKposts!!
@glenn.albert
@glenn.albert Рік тому
History is always more complex that you think. Thank you for sharing this.
@joshp4536
@joshp4536 6 місяців тому
Just got recommended this video. Instantly subscribed. Awesome content!
@MissusShuvin
@MissusShuvin 6 місяців тому
I'm so glad UKposts randomly brought me to your video! I'm gonna browse around here for awhile...... Anything here about Jamestown?.. Ehhh, I'll find it. Thank you for the succinct, CLEAR explanation!
@CharleyBrown69
@CharleyBrown69 Рік тому
This was great! This is a great channel! This is what kids should be watching in school. Not the crazy stuff they are watching in todays world. I would have made sure I had this guys classes as many times as possible in college. Knowledge is power. Thank you sir.
@michaelchandler490
@michaelchandler490 Рік тому
Excellent description of a complicated system. As a Canadian, there is much about the American system that has been confusing to me. This video cleared up much of the confusion. As was pointed out in the video, our system has Parliament elect the Executive, which in many ways means that we only have a two branch government, which gives rise to different problems. Very interesting.
@williamkrebs1212
@williamkrebs1212 Рік тому
The Framers were motivated to solve the problems they had seen and experienced directly. They had seen the problems of a supreme legislature under the previous government (the Articles of Confederation) and wanted to give the President some degree of independent power.
@michaelchandler490
@michaelchandler490 Рік тому
@@williamkrebs1212 In the Canadian system, since it is the leader of the majority party that becomes the Prime Minister, the head of the Executive, and party discipline means the majority party votes as the Executive dictates, it is the Legislative branch which is extremely weak, the opposite of your problem noted above. Hence, de facto we only have two branches, the Executive and the Judiciary. Except in Minority Government situations when the Executive has to be a little more deferential to the Legislature.
@colinbisasky1134
@colinbisasky1134 Рік тому
@@michaelchandler490 I was given a run-down on how the Aussies run their government, by no less than a guy on the staff of an actual Australian Senator. Thus, pretty close to UK and Canada, but with a few features borrowed from the US. Some people from parliamentary countries think that a singular President is "dictatorial" and a PM is more democratic. Without an offense to anyone I think it's really the other way around. the US presidential system is collegial in its own way, and Trudeau actually has some powers that would make Richard Nixon drool with envy. It's almost like, to the victor goes the spoils in Canada/UK/etc: the party that wins the majority in the House of commons gets all the power. In the US, the winner does get to govern, yes, but not without some difficulty, and still has to compromise with the minority quite often. A lobbyist who I know said that 99% of all bills int he US Congress originate with members of the House and Senate and the remaining 1% are proposed (proposed, mind you) by the President. In the UK, a Briton told me, 95% of bills that come up in the Commons are "government bills" and everything is usually vetted through the Cabinet first, else it fails. I cannot imagine a president of the US so powerful that he and/or his cabinet had the power to vet all legislation. That's not to say that the US system is in the slightest "superior" to parliamentary democracies or vice-versa. People in each country decide how to govern uniquely, and whichever constitution a country's people choose, they automatically decide to live with its flaws.
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 5 місяців тому
No, you still have a three-branch government. But the executive is stronger in the US system than in a parliamentary system.
@scottscottsdale7868
@scottscottsdale7868 7 місяців тому
Great talk. There sure are echos of these issues throughout history and today.
@westophateforever
@westophateforever 7 місяців тому
🫶 the video i didn’t know i needed ! thank you for passing on this knowledge 🙏
@SamWinchester000
@SamWinchester000 Рік тому
I'm honestly very hyped for another video regarding the next election. What you have explained in your video, the details about how which state chose their electors and how their individual political fighting was, is the kind of information you would never get on UKposts or the Internet, "even not on Wikipedia", the information you can only find in ultra complex and deep literature. And that is amazing.
@ellwoodblue5453
@ellwoodblue5453 Рік тому
Love the video and it's amazing to see how differnt(how the electoral college was picked)/similar(the behind the scenes to control power) the elections were. I havent seen this much detail on elections. I would love to hear about more of the older elections of american history. Love the video. Thanks for the upload
@metroidsboy
@metroidsboy Рік тому
First time seeing a video by this channel, very impressed, well done! Definitely subscribing, keep up the great work!!
@JohnFilax
@JohnFilax Місяць тому
Awesome brother thanks
@VoicelessGaming
@VoicelessGaming Рік тому
I loved the way this was detailed and informative without any info that didnt need to be there. Honestly i thought this would have been one of those older videos that got tons of views but I was definitely wrong. You deserve more attention if you produce these types of videos.
@ricardocardenas186
@ricardocardenas186 Рік тому
Great video! It taught me a lot of things I didn't know about. I'm not an American, but my parents instilled in me a love of all things political and historical. Thank you for your dedication, and for sharing your knowledge!
@jupitercrash777
@jupitercrash777 13 днів тому
Loved watching this and learned a lot.
@sunmoonstarrays
@sunmoonstarrays 23 години тому
well done 👍 easy to understand and straight to the points that matter 💜
@ripleyhrgiger4669
@ripleyhrgiger4669 Рік тому
Your teaching method and presentation style is entertaining, intriguing(makes me want to keep learning), and very well presented in a manner that works for my ADHD. I feel like I can just fall into your lesson and not want to stop listening. You're a wonderful teacher. Thank you for working hard to make these videos for us!
@premodernist_history
@premodernist_history Рік тому
Thanks!
@johnpoole3871
@johnpoole3871 Рік тому
What is crazy to me is that only 40,000 votes by citizens for electors were cast in this election so even by 1789 population levels only a tiny percentage of voters participated in the election out of 4 million people. Granted only a small number of states had a popular vote at all. Still that's crazy to think about.
@everettduncan7543
@everettduncan7543 Рік тому
And i would imagine that voters mostly participated in legislative elections with the expectation that the legislature would choose the voters choice for president.
@patrickrowan6001
@patrickrowan6001 Рік тому
Only a small percentage of voters were eligible (property requirements etc)
@scout360pyroz
@scout360pyroz Рік тому
You had to be a land owner to vote. Democratic systems conceptually require INFORMED voting. That was how they made sure their voters were informed and determined competence. Crude, but understandable.
@sabin97
@sabin97 Рік тому
well you had to be male, white and rich in order to vote....so it makes sense that only 1% of the population voted.
@brandonkellner4053
@brandonkellner4053 Рік тому
@@markthomas6703 agreed!
@scottspa74
@scottspa74 6 місяців тому
This is brilliant, but I will definitely have to listen a few times (or more) to try to wrap my head round it.
@californiaBala
@californiaBala 6 місяців тому
and 1787 Constitution was designed for 13 Colonies with 300,000 people; now with 50 States, 300 million people and three time zone, it is not scalable. Somehow developed hierarchical structure with President at the top; VP with no authority. Senate and House report to the President. Supreme Court Justices do not carry labels, D or R.
@1_Fish.2_Fish.Red_Fish.
@1_Fish.2_Fish.Red_Fish. 7 місяців тому
The entire delivery of this video is on point.
@8646aaron
@8646aaron Рік тому
Enjoyed this. Very original in that it shows in depth a part of history that people only discuss the highlights of.
@liambell1432
@liambell1432 Рік тому
I just wanna say I loved this video. Part of the reason is obviously the topic is interesting and explained well, but also just the way you talk and go through the story is very engaging. Your voice and tone are soothing but not monotonous. You sound invested in what you're talking about, and it doesn't come across stiff or scripted. Add in the simple, easy-to-digest visuals and this is exactly what I look for in educational videos, especially ones on historical topics. I'm glad this video is getting a lot of views because I'm hoping for a lot more videos in the future!
@koscheii101
@koscheii101 6 місяців тому
Interesting. Thank you for sharing
@gunman155555678
@gunman155555678 6 місяців тому
You make very good videos, thank you for taking the time to create this.
@bradenadams1761
@bradenadams1761 Рік тому
This was fantastic! Please keep the content coming.. My 7 great grandfather (John Adams) is someone I love to learn more about!
@Iberium
@Iberium Рік тому
Random Belgian citizen here. I randomly clicked on this video not expecting too much, but I was pleasantly surprised! I've always been into history (of any nation), so this was an interesting addition to my general knowledge. Thank you! P.S.: I added my nationality because of the small edit/question at 21:44. Belgium's governmental system is SUPER complex, so I don't think it's better, but I also don't think it's worse really. (You should look into it a little if you're interested, it's insane how our government works haha)
@premodernist_history
@premodernist_history Рік тому
Thanks! I'm fascinated by complex systems of government, so I'll have to learn about Belgium's.
@Iberium
@Iberium Рік тому
@@premodernist_history Good luck and have fun with the mess that is Belgian politics if you do actually decide to look it up! Not one, but SIX governments to entertain you.
@dog-ez2nu
@dog-ez2nu Рік тому
When you create six forms of government to stop Flemish speakers in Brussels from feeling insecure.
@silvertbird1
@silvertbird1 Рік тому
Wonderful to hear your viewpoint. My grandfather was of Belgium descent (French speaking), his father was born in Belgium and immigrated to the United States in the 1870s. I’ve never really understood Belgium - if Leopold was the first king of the Belgiums as late as the 1830s what was the organization of the country prior? At one point did the Dutch rule Belgium? Was it part of the original Germanic states? This makes me realize I need to correct my ignorance and learn the history of Belgium. Interesting that Brussels ended up as the seat of EU.
@superstructure23
@superstructure23 Рік тому
@Jon Holland the entire low countries (modern day Belgium and the Netherlands) were part of the realm of the Dukes of Burgundy in the 15th century. The last Duke of Burgundy died unexpectedly and left his realm to his daughter, who married into the Austrian Habsburgs (who had recently become Holy Roman Emperors), meaning they inherited the Low Countries. Then, the Habsburgs, through more marriage politics, acquired Spain. Emperor Charles V of Habsburg was the most powerful ruler of Europe as King of Spain, Holy Roman Emperor and ruler of the Low Countries (around 1520). He split his realm between his son, Philip II, who became king of Spain and ruler of the Low Countries, and his brother, who became Archduke of Austria and Holy Roman Emperor. Then, the Dutch Revolt or 80 Years War happened (starting in 1568), where some of the Low Countries revolted against Spanish rule uniting in the Union of Utrecht. Eventually (in 1648), the mostly protestant north gained independence from Spain as the Dutch Republic and the Catholic south remained under Spanish rule as the Spanish Netherlands. In 1714 Austria gained control of the Spanish Netherlands, which it lost 100 years later with the napoleonic wars. Redesigning Europe at the Congress of Vienna in 1815, the Kingdom of the Netherlands was formed, including the former Dutch Republic and the former Austrian Netherlands (and Luxemburg). Then to your actual question, the south was more industrialised and economically productive, yet had a marginalised roll in the politics of the country. So in the 1830s they revolted to proclaim independence as the Kingdom of Belgium. That's a brief outline of the history of Belgium (written by someone from the Netherlands).
@sethgaston8347
@sethgaston8347 Рік тому
What a great voice reminds me of Scott Brick. I listen to too many audiobooks Great video!
@ryanholmes7297
@ryanholmes7297 Рік тому
Doing my part for the algo. Good quality material in this video, good job.
@gilbertfilbert1446
@gilbertfilbert1446 Рік тому
Founding fathers thought that having voters elect a president was “not wise” Me looks at twitter “well they do have a outstandingly solid point” 😂
@bswearer
@bswearer Рік тому
The office of Elector used to mean something special, as the Framers intended. Sadly, today [unconstitutional] state laws have essentially rendered the Electors mere messengers and rubberstampers. SCOTUS had an opportunity to remedy this back in the Chiafalo case, but unfortunately laid a giant 9-0 turd of a ruling, bascially eliminating the constitutional rights of Electors to VOTE, and relegating them to couriers. I do hope that ruling will one day be overturned.
@dougearnest7590
@dougearnest7590 Рік тому
Hopefully I can run this comment past a fact-checker to see if it has merit.
@jacksondodd8835
@jacksondodd8835 Рік тому
Absolutely fascinating!!! You should definitely keep growing your UKposts channel!
@seandaley2914
@seandaley2914 5 місяців тому
This was a great video and very interesting. Love the knowledge that even at the founding of our great Country we were concerned about a Federal government which is a major debate to this day.
@pnwTaco
@pnwTaco 4 місяці тому
Thank you for the excellent actually educational youtube content.
@premodernist_history
@premodernist_history 4 місяці тому
Thank you!
@cjthefinesse
@cjthefinesse Рік тому
Great vid! Really puts into perspective how 200+ years isn't even that long ago in the grand scheme of things since this is the same chicanery still happening in U.S. politics today.
@MrSkittlezlife
@MrSkittlezlife Рік тому
I remember learning about this in 7th grade US History class and was extremely fascinated, in awe at how the whole drafting of the constitution happened. Especially fascinating was the War of 1774 which stood out to me the most. Early stages America has and always will be fascinating to me.
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