can't brake early, can't brake late, can't defend a position, can't overtake outside drs zones... the only valid thing is overtaking with drs and the other guy is forbid to defend... pathetic

I'm sorry but I thought F1 was about racing not a steward "expecting" the driver to take a corner the same way every lap

The only thing worse than Russell’s driving, is this take 😂

Typical “RACE” analysis. The Non British driver is in the fault

I have been saying this for years: They need to keep the same stewards for the entirety of the calendar. How can we expect consistency from them if they change at every venue?

"Not allowing the consequences...to impact a decision"? If he didn't crash, there would be no review at all.

You guys go pretty far in finding an excuse for Russell failing (again) to keep his car on track.

Be honest, if the roles were reversed and Alonso had crashed chasing George, this report would have reached a totally different conclusion.

Once again the stewards are applying penalties based on the outcome of an action, instead of the action itself. This is why people are constantly complaining that the stewards decisions are inconsistent... and they are.

If FIA doesn't want the drivers to race, just skip sunday and give points after Q3.

so youre basically telling us that lightly breaking and downshifting 100 metres earlier than usual on a corner should be penalised with 20 seconds and a -3 point deduction? WTF is the point of driving cars if theyre not allowed to drive them?

The British accent gave the narrators position away before the video even started.

Please mandatory all car with turn signal, brake lights, and anyone who wanna change racing line or try to overtake at non-DRS zone MUST write an email to stewards and get approval first.

New F1 rule: "All laps must be equal."

If Alonso was English, the Race would defend him to no end, but Russell is English......

Wow, I didn't realize you had to approach a corner the exact same way every time otherwise its a penalty. Russell never even got particularly close to Alonso watching the in-car replay. This is the most shambolic penalty I've ever seen in F1. Hamilton got a 10 second penalty for missing the apex in at the fastest corner in Silverstone, hitting his competitor and sending him spinning into the wall in Silverstone. Alonso gets a DRIVE THROUGH (converted to 20 seconds) for... slowing down early to get a better exit for a corner. Right...

Alonso has been doing it for years. Vettel used to do that too. It's a genuine way of defending against someone attacking. Why not just take the cars away and have the drivers jog round the track.

I'm not an Alonso fan but when he states, "it's part of the art of motorsport", I believe he's right and that he's been unfairly penalised.

TITLE SHOULD BE: "The ALLEGED "evidence" that damned Alonso in Russell’s Australian GP crash" ... This video report has now 19K Dislikes vs 12K Likes ... go figure!

but sending a driver to hospital will cost only 10 sec penalty if you are a british driver.

Even Russel says it wasnt Alonso fault, he took it on himself and admited that he lost control. Sure it surprised him, but that doesnt mean that Alo is to blame.

Bruno Senna lifter earlier entering turn 1 in Barcelona, Michael Schumacher got caught out and crashed into Bruno. Schumacher was given the penalty because it was "his responsibility" to avoid collision since he was the "trailing driver" and every media outlet agreed it was Michael's fault because Bruno Senna had every right to defend in the manner he did. But now that a Brackley-based team crashes out because Alonso slowed earlier entering a corner, it's the car in front that gets penalised. Both scenarios were racing incidents. But the way the stewards hand penalties is undeniably erratic, and it interferes with the outcome of the standings way too much.

Potentially? F1 is now "Minority Report".

The only evidence the stewards needed was that Alonso is Spanish and Russell is British!

Yes, the british youtube channel thinks alonso should be penalised. Not surprising.

I have never ever disagreed with a report as much as this one. They would never have penalized Alonso for a change in corner approach without Russell's shunt.

so a man cannot make a mistake? he's still human, and at the end of a race. Russel is the one that wasn't able to keep it because he wasn't ready to react

What I'm hearing (In a pedantic brittish accent): "our boy doesn't know how to properly overtake a car or drive a race car, so it's Alonso's fault"

British commentators try an impartial take challenge (impossible)

By this analogy. Every time a driver moves to the inside to defend they should get a 20 second penalty for dangerous driving because they're doing something different to the lap before. Sorry the-race but I wholeheartedly disagree with you and the stewards on this one. He was driving defensively. That's all.

George has proven to be unstable when his car gets close to another. This is a number of incidents now in his career. It’s a thing.

If we wanted consistency in every corner we’d watch NASCAR.

This isn’t a good take. This feels like a journalistic attack towards Alonso as opposed to simply explaining the penalty and why it is or isn’t the correct decision.

In 2002 Barrichello decided to brake early for the first corner and Ralf Schumacher rear-ended him and got airborne. What did Ralf say after getting launched into the air and landing in the barriers? From what I remember he said that "it's a racing incident" and "the driver in front has the right to brake whenever he wants".

This will be Russels 3rd last lap shunt all by himself. Why penalize Alonso? The is BS.

When was the last time a driver took 20 seconds and 3 license points without making contact with anyone? Edit: typo

Brit media getting triggered every time a British driver has an issue with Alonso is fucking hilarious

Oh wow, an English F1 media outlet vilifying a non British driver. I swear that Russell, Norris, Hamilton could shoot Verstappen and Sky, The RACE, BBC etc. would all come out and say "Well I think we need to look at the facts first, Verstappen has a very shootable face so I really think the blame here is 60/40 Max's fault"

Anytime a Mercedez Benz crashes "NO NO MIKEY, THIS IS NOT OKAY"

You know what’s funny? They can analyze all of this and give Alonso a penalty (despite him just racing and keeping George honest), but they can’t give Norris a penalty for a jump start everyone saw

Sorry but you're wrong on this one guys, Alonso was penalised for taking a corner differently, George didn't react to that well and lost control of his car. The stewards clearly punished the consequences rather than the action, which if George didn't crash wouldn't have even been talked about.

For your info: 13k likes / 17k dislikes on this "report" There is still an option to see the dislike ratio on UKposts.

Hardly ever see a video with such a bad upvote to downvote ratio, since the 'removal' of the dislike button. If my addon is right, it's 11k up to 14k down.

I remember when hamilton and max verstappen had a crash and max slammed in the barrier with 51g, but hamilton got only a 10-second time and handed two penalty points.. but braking earlier is 20 seconds and three points? that's insane lmao.. FIA needs to get their shit together

Such bullshit. He eased through the corner differently because it was the final lap and he needed to get the car home. Russel’s inexperience is not Alonso’s fault.

So if two weeks ago someone crashed being backed up by Haas cresting a 25 second gap would have the same rules application?

Lets put this in context... He lifts 100m before when he does over 225kph to travel 100m would take him like slightly over 1s so coming off the throttle at 1s earlier is nothing in terms of time is not anywhere near as daunting as this over emphasized 100m remark you making about distance when the argument is coming about reaction times.

Russel's telemetry is missing from this analysis. Beacuse if, I dunno, it turned out that he actually braked LATER than usual, carrying more speed into the corner, than all this discussion goes out of the window, doesn't it?

Are we expected to believe that the lead car must consider what a car, half a second behind him, might do if he changed his approach to a corner????? That's unbelievable!!!!!

So he was accused of a "brake check" even though his braking input was so negligible that coming off the throttle had a bigger effect - and they didn't have the evidence to be certain over his intention, but gave him a penalty anyway?

Yeah Alonso misjudged the corner and lost a bit of time because of it, but he wasn't the one who made a mistake, Russell was the one that couldn't comprehend a car moving slightly different than he imagined it was going to, and therefore lost the car. Alonso didn't make Russell crash. Russell did it himself.

FIA/F1 need to now analyse George's driving data of the crash.................especially sine this has happened to said George last season.

Alonso took Russell to school, and now the Stewards are basically stating that drivers need to drive according to what their telemetry was reading out for the entire race. He was defending the position plain and simple.

Alonso: Not the first time Russell has crashed on the last lap 🤣

Why didn't they give equal penalties according to previous accidents caused like this? Just because a 10sec penalty wouldn't have done anything they changed it to 20sec... What the fuck!

Basically everyone in the 80s, 90s and 2000s would get a dozen penalties per race

Just a British racing channel supporting a british racing driver who couldnt follow a car.

The Race, now try again without crying.

George is not a world champion material. He was schooled by Alonso 😂

I hope they took into account the fact Russell has history with last lap crashes where he seems to lose his focus.

These distant, after-race penalties are turning Formula 1 into a Court Drama series.

So.....a pro driver at the 'pinnacle' of the sport failing to react appropriately to an 'age old' tactic is the practitioner of that tactic's fault....according to the scrutineers......brilliant. 😶

Brake checking is not part of racing. Period.

“Pinnacle of Motorsport” and THIS gets a friggin penalty; okay so we’re done with ‘defensive/strategic’ driving? Not Fernando’s fault that a young’n couldn’t deal.

If a British driver did the exact same thing to Russell then The Race would simply call it a “cheeky little move that made George lose his sixes and sevens”

Alonso cannot be blamed for Russell’s foolishness. Canada, Singapore, and now Melbourne-Russell crumbles mentally under pressure

5:56 Alonso’s mistake is more befitting of a rank amateur? Bro chill out. Also, Alonso is being penalized for messing up a lift and coast. He never intended to break check Russell. Same way an overtaking driver gets penalized for mistakenly overtaking off track even if they didnt intend to.

Disagree here that he was "extremely" dangerous. He didn't slam brakes, just lifted and changed gear. Slowing down in tight corners is a racing manouvre, seen in many series and done by many drivers (ie. the Magnussen train last race). I don't think this would have been even considered for a penalty 10 years ago.

Patethic from the Race. Villanizing Fernando for being a racing driver just because the guy behind him was careless is not the level I expected you guys to stoop to. And trust me that level was already low. But here we are.

People don't seem to understand how dangerous slowing down on the apex of a fast turn is. With .5 of a second gap, a crash was almost inevitable. Alonso is one of the best drivers that's ever lived, he knew exactly what he was doing.

if this were a slower corner, no one would bat an eye at a car driving slower to park itself on the apex to defend.

"A moment of madness" Really?? I Highly doubt that his botched attempt at a recing maneuver could be considered madness. Calling it madness seems to be very unfair and uncalled for. When you look at the incident from an unbiased perspective I do not beleive a reasonable person would call it "madness".

That’s the only reason fia penalized Alonso because George got caught asleep and wiped out.

So driver have to match exactly the same braking, accelerating every lap and if you don't you get penalised?? Let see next race how the driver match their ever lap??

8:55 I wholeheartedly disagree with this being low cost, should the championship turn out to be as close as last year then 4 points can be the difference between P5 and P10. Not to mention that this penalty dropped Fernando behind George in the drivers and Aston Martin behind Mercedes in the constructor's championships respectively.

If that is the case, they should check all the stats from 14 turns x 20 cars x 58 laps = 16240 checks? 😂

Keep going FIA, keep going... They should put speed limits and traffic ligths in order to be more secure, like we have in an average downtown. They penalized Alonso because Russell didn't keep the car in track, just that.

Russell's driving is like he reading a script, Alonso is an improv comedian. Can't blame either for doing their job.

At this point it's pretty safe to say that the vast majority of motorsport fans think this is just a case of Russell being caught napping, not Alonso perpetrating some dastardly action.

it is interesting that Hamilton got 10s penalty for taking Max out from race (they have contact) in Britain 2021, and here Alonso got 20s penalty for impacting Russells crash.

So they say alonso is allowed to enter the corner differently, but penalty given as he misjudged it. But then contradict themselves that as it was intentional that is aggravating circumstances to give a harsher penalty than the baseline 10sec penalty. Totally hypocritical and ridiculous application of the rulebook. It’s a racing incident. Alonso misjudged his entry, Russel misjudged his closing speed to alonso and missed his turn in and braking point and that’s it. Racing incident. If this is dangerous driving then why no penalties for Verstappen in Brazil 2021, or probably a whole book full of incidents of pushing off track, weaving, moving under brakes that never get penalised.

The only thing missing from this analysis is the fact that Alonso did the very same thing in the last race against Hamilton. I guess Alonso has figured out he can stall the airflow of these ground-effect cars by slowing into them. This stalled airflow is particularly effective if the car behind is also navigating high-speed corners where the extra ground force is crucial to keep them planted. This goes beyond whiley, and borderlines on premeditated intent to cause harm. He didn't break test, so much as he airflow tested him. He made a mistake all right. He didn't pull off this move smoothly enough to fool the telemetry. I wonder if he was spotted judging the distance to the car behind him. That said, no one has commented yet on the exposed underside of the Mercedes car.

I still don't understand how he's being penalized here. If he did break earlier because he thought it may cause some dirty air for Russell, than that is good tactic...

I'm with Alonso on this one. It's not brake checking if the car behind you has plenty time to respond.

The distance between Russell and Alonso when he lifts "early" is way significant for Russell to realize he cannot approach the corner at maximum speed. He misjudged the situation, like he did already more than once

7:25 - bullshit and you know it. Hindsight's 20/20. We all know that nobody would be talking about it after the race, especially if Russel got past him. The only way I could see it is if Russel didn't pass and then he complained and complained.

Might as well just sim race. Russell is well known for last lap crashes

This video is a rare miss step from The Race. There was a whole video less than 2 weeks ago on how f1 stewarding is still inconsistent, yet here is an example of inconsistent stewarding and it’s characterized as a rightful penalty for a dangerous incident? Cmon guys. If this is a dangerous incident then Alonso should’ve got a penalty in Hungary for his defense vs Hamilton and Perez should’ve gotten a penalty for his defense against Hamilton in Abu Dhabi. All three of these incidents have a slower car defending attacks from a faster car and using conventional driving methods to slow the car behind and get better exists into flat out sections. Only difference is Russell crashed and Hamilton didn’t. Even 16 year olds learning to drive for the first time know that it’s the responsibility of the car behind to avoid an accident. Sure you could argue that Alonso was inconsistent with his driving here, but it’s still the responsibility of the car behind to take extra caution. It’s more inconsistency from a governing body that has time and time again given penalties based off an incidents effect on others and not the incident itself. Imagine if offsides was only called when a goal is scored. It doesn’t matter what happened after, you call the offsides if a player is offsides. It’s shocking to me that after Canada 2019 there was not a complete reset of the penalty system in F1 which 5 years later is still terrible and one of the worst in all of sport. Really disappointing and disingenuous reporting here from The Race.

Could you please analyze several of Russell's laps going into that segment? He might have been approaching the corner much faster than usual as he was getting ready for an overtake

HOW did that affect russel ? did russel had to brake suddenly ? did russel had to swerve suddenly? how it russel changed his telemetry due to this ? none

What's the point of racing is NO RACING IS ALLOWED?!?!

You guys have got this wrong, Alonso did nothing wrong, this is racing.

2 things that damned Fernando: 1- One of the stewards is Johnny Herbert, 2- Fernando isn’t British. Case closed.

Can someone tell me where i can get photos like the ones that appear in the video??

The thing is these days everyone thinks they are an expert when they aren't, even arguing like they are an expert at the event, with all the information available and just interviewed the drivers, even though they are just sitting at home with a beer and a packet of crisps....

other scenarios: drivers hitting others, resulting in an heavy crash. 5/10 sec this scneario: fernando slows down a bit, big gap to russell, no contact, russell looses it, resulting in a pretty mild crash (in terms of impact). 20 sec

Narrator could barely contain his outrage at what happened to GR. Dude is practically shaking. "How dare he do that to George!!! I'm gonna make a video RIGHT now"

Its up to the guy behind. If the AM did have an engine problem isn't George simply going to drive around him and make the pass? So in reality it's Georges reflexes that are to blame for not being able to deal with that situation.

getting your braking point wrong by 100 metres seems way outside F1 norms. At 100m different, no wonder Russel got caught out.

Honestly I think it's absolute nonsense he's been penalised. He didn't brake check him, Russell crashed. I get he might have been being wily but so what? That's correct.