The Fastest 5-seaters of the 1990s - W124 500E v RS2 v M5 Touring + ND2 - Cammisa Ultimate Drag Race

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7 місяців тому

Just how fast was the fastest sedan in the world in 1992? The legendary Porsche-built Mercedes-Benz 500E races the fastest wagons in the world: the E34 BMW M5 Touring and the Audi RS2 Avant, which was also built by Porsche!
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Veteran automotive journalist Jason Cammisa and SCCA hall-of-fame race-car driver Randy Pobst line up and race the Mercedes 500E (known later as the E500) against the RS 2 and M5, and the results are surprising. Will the Mercedes' 4-speed automatic kill its chances against the two other manuals - a five-speed in the M5 and a six-speed in the Audi?
And what's with the six-cylinder E320 dogleg manual wagon and its DOHC 24V 3.2-liter straight-six?
The 3.8-liter S38 is the biggest straight-six that BMW has ever made, and it produced 340 PS (335 hp) at an insane, independent-throttle-body screaming 6900 rpm. The Audi's much-smaller 2.2-liter, 20-valve turbo five-cylinder made 315 PS (311 hp), and the 5.0-liter quad-cam, DOHC 32V Mercedes V-8 made 326 PS (322 hp) but had variable valve timing so it creamed the others on torque.
The next question is: can any of these 1990s legends keep up with today's slowest sports car, the ND2 Mazda MX-5 Miata? You'll be surprised by the outcome.
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Chapters:
0:00 Purple Manual Wagons - and a 500E
0:50 Hagerty Driver's Club Offer
1:11 E34 M5 Touring Specs and Info
2:06 Audi RS2 Avant Specs and Info
2:41 Mercedes-Benz S124 E320T 5-speed Dogleg Specs and Info
3:11 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E/E500 Specs and Info
4:15 1/4-mile: 500E vs RS2 vs M5
5:28 Walkback: How is the 500E so fast?
6:40 Launching and racing the E34 M5
7:40 AWD launch in the RS2 - plus turbo lag in the 1/4-mile
9:06 Jason and Randy kiss their own Valentine 1 radar detectors
9:56 ND2 Miata vs Mercedes 500E 1/4-mile drag race
11:16 Drag Race Results Leaderboard
11:25 Conclusion: power-to-weight is wrong!

КОМЕНТАРІ: 1 828
@Hagerty
@Hagerty 7 місяців тому
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@CarCraze7
@CarCraze7 7 місяців тому
I like to see a dragrace with an golf r32 vs Clio v6 vs alfa 147 3.2.
@YusufGinnah
@YusufGinnah 7 місяців тому
Randy: _"Mahn, I almost had you..."_ Jason: _"Almost had _*_me?_*_ You barely had your Miata...!"_
@facemoukredone4093
@facemoukredone4093 7 місяців тому
How hell did you forget the Omega LOTUS? Produced in 1991,big sedan with 377hp and SMOKE these 3 cars easely… Its was the real fastest saloon! Even the 1998 M5e39 400hp cant beat it.
@daverizz
@daverizz 7 місяців тому
You guys have a really awesome drive pilot, whoever they are! Great episode, as usual.
@jergervasi3331
@jergervasi3331 7 місяців тому
Valentine One is the KING. Always has been.
@JoCaTen
@JoCaTen 7 місяців тому
As a European, there's something gorgeous about 80s-90s EDM cars that today's generations lack.
@shubham-------
@shubham------- 7 місяців тому
purposeful minimilist design
@CB-sh9zz
@CB-sh9zz 7 місяців тому
What's the matter with you being european😂
@99Lezard99
@99Lezard99 7 місяців тому
as a german, that goes as well with 80s 90s jdm cars. i think its the era.
@arapaimagold8088
@arapaimagold8088 7 місяців тому
Wood panels
@scottipippen6554
@scottipippen6554 7 місяців тому
They had character, not sound generators..
@francomazza3223
@francomazza3223 7 місяців тому
legendary wagons racing head to head AND a legendary presenter talking about them? what a way to start my morning!
@Minnevan
@Minnevan 7 місяців тому
couldn’t have put it better myself
@mabuleonkars9706
@mabuleonkars9706 7 місяців тому
What a way to end my day
@Minnevan
@Minnevan 7 місяців тому
@@mabuleonkars9706 What a sight to end my night
@FEAR_Actual
@FEAR_Actual 7 місяців тому
I love how Randy's just flipping Jason off in the RS2 while he's chilling in the trunk with the tailgate up🤣🤣
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 7 місяців тому
😂😂👍
@JavierCR25
@JavierCR25 7 місяців тому
Right 😂😂😂
@jmakhlouf422
@jmakhlouf422 7 місяців тому
Typical Audi driver. Signed, B9 A4 owner.
@cottonhungaryshark7926
@cottonhungaryshark7926 6 місяців тому
That's a nice little humor, I love it 🤣🤣😂
@lennykibet6689
@lennykibet6689 7 місяців тому
The 500E has always been in my dream garage and this video increases my love for that car. What a car!!!
@twbones99
@twbones99 7 місяців тому
Praise be to the Camissa, may he never cease to deliver amazing car content
@seanengineer7009
@seanengineer7009 7 місяців тому
Amen
@daniel.s.stefanov
@daniel.s.stefanov 7 місяців тому
*Cammisa
@penzlic
@penzlic 7 місяців тому
W124 was such an icon in Europe that even at the end of production (almost 15 years in) was selected as villains car of choice in French classic "Taxi".
@chipsnpeasifuplz
@chipsnpeasifuplz 6 місяців тому
One underated movie
@user-vq2bt7mn1z
@user-vq2bt7mn1z 4 місяці тому
In Taxi the W124 were E400
@brooklynsupreme
@brooklynsupreme 7 місяців тому
Bringing in a Miata brings another level of perspective ! This is what I love about Jason&co.
@usaclaimsthemoon4198
@usaclaimsthemoon4198 7 місяців тому
Yeah that was good
@adammcbride6159
@adammcbride6159 7 місяців тому
The quality of this video is outstanding! I actually read the credits to see who's responsible for these videos! What an amazing team! You should be proud of this!
@aleksandar8646
@aleksandar8646 7 місяців тому
You have to appreciate people who edit these videos. I think that is very unique. Bravo!
@MrGamman3yt
@MrGamman3yt 7 місяців тому
Anyone know how they do all this stuff?
@davidm.5669
@davidm.5669 7 місяців тому
​@@MrGamman3ytwith a lot of talented and hard working editors, god this channel is perfect
@user-rx8tg6yz4t
@user-rx8tg6yz4t 7 місяців тому
Thanks
@tarzanthembani5186
@tarzanthembani5186 7 місяців тому
Man the production of these videos is amazing, how many cameras are they using at once, you can count more than 15
@FrancisWilly96
@FrancisWilly96 7 місяців тому
@@MrGamman3yton the production end, lots of steadicams and gimbals, some subtle key lighting on the cars with light reflectors, and a few very expensive cameras. On the post production end, painstaking editing on Premiere Pro or DaVinci Resolve. Maybe a combination of both. Speaking from a perspective of a film school student, I’m sure the production setup is a lot more elaborate. This is just what I would guess was involved with making this episode.
@RonnieTuitL
@RonnieTuitL 7 місяців тому
Most interesting about this dragrace is that both the RS2 and the 500E are Porsche developments
@usmanbangash2236
@usmanbangash2236 7 місяців тому
Audi was built by porsche while the 500E was only assembled by porsche not built
@arapaimagold8088
@arapaimagold8088 7 місяців тому
Porsche does some little touch for that 500E, new engine management and also some change in chassis.
@j.d.8593
@j.d.8593 7 місяців тому
@@usmanbangash2236But Mercedes consulted Porsche on how to fit that massive V8 in there.
@andreasweber7828
@andreasweber7828 7 місяців тому
Not quite , the assembling line at Mercedes was too narrow for the wide archers of the 500e. And hence it was supposed to get some Porsche parts anyways, they decided to get the cars on a semi, took them a mile and a half down the road to Zuffenhausen for its second stage aaand sent them back for final assembling at merc again
@barrishautomotive
@barrishautomotive 7 місяців тому
Porsche designed and built the firewall and chassis modifications in house. I definitely wouldn't claim that it's a Porsche built car, but they did put their hands on every one.
@jonathanfenne4948
@jonathanfenne4948 7 місяців тому
As an S2 owner, the driver of that RS2 let us all down. More revs, sidestep the clutch, powershift into second. 🎉
@mpower_gpower
@mpower_gpower 7 місяців тому
Yep not only the RS2, the M5 driver also, took him 2 years to change gear and you can see on the video when they show interior
@Hellafast2uDude
@Hellafast2uDude 7 місяців тому
"More revs, sidestep the clutch, powershift into second" - and go home on evaquator xD too old cars to do this
@Hellafast2uDude
@Hellafast2uDude 7 місяців тому
@@mpower_gpower wagon m5 much slower. Sedan best result 1/4 14 sec same as mercedes
@narsustv1331
@narsustv1331 6 місяців тому
Let us know who would do that to their RS2, no owner is going to high key "destroy" their car just to prove a point for internet petrol heads moguls.
@danielmarshall4587
@danielmarshall4587 6 місяців тому
@@narsustv1331 Spot on ....the manual gear box give such easy opportunity/access to gastly things happening they're not going to truly SPANK them.
@e46Kyle
@e46Kyle 7 місяців тому
Oh man, the dream cars! The wild camerawork! The VFX! The heart-pumping editing! The sexy calves! Loved every second of this video.
@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 7 місяців тому
As a German who was a Kid in the early 1990s and a Car Fan this Video reminds me of my Dad's Audi RS2 Avant he bought new and still owns it now! Lots of great Memories being allowed to ride Shotgun in it on the Autobahn with my Dad driving and going up to 200km/h (120mph) for the first Time in my Life! Prost & Cheers from Frankfurt, Germany
@gyula6516
@gyula6516 7 місяців тому
Frankfurt is the best place to drive any car fast! The 5 line wide highway near the airport is so great!
@GoalSquad666
@GoalSquad666 7 місяців тому
@@gyula6516 You mean the largest parking space? I always end up in a traffic jam there, doesn't matter if it's 2am or 2pm; the road was very busy and the lanes added in the 90s if I remember right. The A3 is the busiest motorway in Germany as it pretty much cuts the country in half, from The Netherlands to Austria.
@karlanal1
@karlanal1 7 місяців тому
@@gyula6516 not quite, from hamburg to husum there is the a23 and after itzehoe you can drive 400 if your car does it.
@karlanal1
@karlanal1 7 місяців тому
I also owned one hell of a car and i think no car to this day was thirstier
@JP-xd6fm
@JP-xd6fm 7 місяців тому
@@GoalSquad666 I drove from Denmark to France thru Germany 2 years ago and I hated every minute in Germany!, roads in bad condition, many, many jams and people driving quite badly. Seriously I had big expectations and at the end I enjoyed way more my driving in France.
@darksideemt
@darksideemt 7 місяців тому
Knowing how you guys feel about these cars this was probably one of Jason's favorite he has done yet. They all look great, love the beamer but dang that Mercedes was fast. Randy flipping you off in the background when sitting in the back of the Audi was classic.
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 7 місяців тому
😂😂👍
@tvm7588
@tvm7588 7 місяців тому
Bimmer is the car version of BMW. Beemer is their motorcycle.
@chrlda6857
@chrlda6857 7 місяців тому
The quality of this show is unfair if you compare with others He's too damn good
@The_Hi_Life
@The_Hi_Life 7 місяців тому
Old Mercedes V8s sound so good! In Highschool my best friends uncle had 1989 SL 500 with this same motor and transmission. It was such a fun car to drive! I know it’d do 140mph really quick! 😏
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
Sorry mate couldn't hold myself, but in 1989 it was 500 SL, not SL 500. Cheers 😊
@brianmoses2775
@brianmoses2775 7 місяців тому
Legendary W124. Man I want one.
@thejoshbtv
@thejoshbtv 7 місяців тому
My brain cannot process the editing. Please win some awards for this stuff.
@RobinHoller
@RobinHoller 3 місяці тому
There's much nice editing going on ... and it's funny with the guy explaining stuff, while the race seems still going on in slow mo. But sometimes they are over the top. E. g. they obviously did several races to get enough footage ... but these scenes get mixed and are kind of confusing because of that (e.g. compare 4:56 to 4:59; one time the Audio jumps ahead, one time the Mercedes).
@corvettestories4349
@corvettestories4349 7 місяців тому
The production and post production team on these videos is absolutely outstanding. Innovative shots, special effects and visual effects. Love Jason, Randy and the whole damn thing!
@dklord_89
@dklord_89 7 місяців тому
My family and I had 3 W124 in our lives (we still have 1 left!), damn we love that car, thank you Hagerty & Cammisa for this wonderful video!
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
Have an S124 myself. It's a hell of a car!
@ertey9
@ertey9 7 місяців тому
That M5 wagon is to die for. Looks so amazing!
@lqr824
@lqr824 7 місяців тому
I had an LHD M5 in 99, then got an RHD one in 03 that I drive to this day. (New M5s are too big and I don't need any more speed.) My dream for over two decades now is to make a one-off E39 wagon M5. (There's definitely one, I think owned by BMW. It was in I think Evo magazine.)
@joe125ful
@joe125ful 7 місяців тому
After Mercedes to me..
@timjeklar8699
@timjeklar8699 6 місяців тому
@@joe125ful maybe for u, but i think mercedes just looks weird from the front. But still its an awsome car.
@joe125ful
@joe125ful 6 місяців тому
@@timjeklar8699It looks like normal sedan not angry like M5 but from inside its beast as you can see.
@maxypoo4652
@maxypoo4652 7 місяців тому
Excellent video as always, but the continuous, no-cuts shot of the drag race at 8:42 and 10:59 is something really special that separates these drag races from the rest
7 місяців тому
agree. And as much love jason gets, anythony with the team deserves it also.
@JeremiBulakowski
@JeremiBulakowski 7 місяців тому
Couldn’t agree more, I understand it has to be also pleasant to see and full of emotions but I’m not really into that many cuts and different angles during the simple 1/4 mile race. Maybe we’re in minority.
@dan725
@dan725 7 місяців тому
How do we get this amount of quality camera work and editing?!?!!? What did we all deserve to have this kind of BEAUTIFUL CONTENT AND SUPERB JOURNALISM?!
@tynancravy5589
@tynancravy5589 7 місяців тому
That drone is a beast!
@hanshogqvist7927
@hanshogqvist7927 7 місяців тому
I had my 500E for 15 years now and it is the car I use as the "daily" driver. It alway performs beautifully on shopping rounds aswell as on fast long distans trips in Europe. I have owned other premium cars but non of them come even close to the Mercedes 500E!
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
Lucky you 😊 I have an S124 300TE and a W201 190E 2.6 and loving them. But 500E is at another level. Will get there one day hopefully. All the best 2 u mate!
@karlanal1
@karlanal1 7 місяців тому
absolute dream
@th3Kun
@th3Kun 7 місяців тому
how is it? Did it lose its power or did you take care of it
@karlanal1
@karlanal1 7 місяців тому
@@th3Kun merc doesn't loose power like bmw
@Arz0rsProGaming
@Arz0rsProGaming 6 місяців тому
What’s the city fuel consumption on that beauty?
@AbdulMabood88
@AbdulMabood88 7 місяців тому
It's A dream come true to see the legendary 500 E W124 on Camissa's show 👍
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
He had a whole episode about it brother. A must see, if you haven't seen it yet. 😊
@vitormoreira17
@vitormoreira17 5 місяців тому
This is the drag race that I ever wanted to see. I was a lucky one to grow up with this car, it was so fun to hit the road. My dad still miss this beauty 500 E ❤❤❤
@DJKill2009
@DJKill2009 7 місяців тому
You've got broken RS2. :) It goes below 5sec on 0-60 many times (a lot of car magazines tested this back to the days). And I did sub 5 personally. One extra second doesn't really change the deal, but still big difference.
@Hellafast2uDude
@Hellafast2uDude 7 місяців тому
Start with 5-6k rpm is too much damaging. With the same success you can put semi-slick tires on rear-wheel drive ones and also give them a start from 6k rpm
@stevenallen4963
@stevenallen4963 3 місяці тому
Wasn't it the fast accelerating production car 0-30mph in the mid early to mid 90's just quicker than the McLaren F1?
@PriyeshHanumanth
@PriyeshHanumanth 7 місяців тому
The Middle Finger at 8:14 😂 Saludos to the editing and the crew....
@philkensebben157
@philkensebben157 7 місяців тому
Chef's kiss.
@priceb713
@priceb713 7 місяців тому
Must’ve been Randy
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
@PlayafromtheHimalayas 7 місяців тому
@@priceb713 I caught that and said "that damn Randy!" LOL
@Sickwitit18
@Sickwitit18 7 місяців тому
Good lord that gap the mercedes made was insane!
@strykz63
@strykz63 7 місяців тому
I must say the video angles and shots in this comparison are epically on point.. birds eye, side shot, rear shots you name it its there... love it🙏🏽🙏🏽
@ontheaction1
@ontheaction1 7 місяців тому
I could watch these all day, everyday
@mitchgardzalla18
@mitchgardzalla18 7 місяців тому
Love the disappearing drivers, and my favorite was, (I assume Randy) flipping Jason off while he's breaking down the Audi!
@brianb6507
@brianb6507 7 місяців тому
You caught that too! :)
@alphahanDK
@alphahanDK 7 місяців тому
I think he is flipping the M5.
@Tmrfe0962
@Tmrfe0962 7 місяців тому
Lol….thanks, didn’t realize that
@luisayala4344
@luisayala4344 7 місяців тому
I think the one flipping finger was Derek Tam Hyphen Scott
@abbarasheed8599
@abbarasheed8599 7 місяців тому
1:52 Seeing that mechanical straight 6 in in action gave me goosebumps ☺️☺️
@spicysnowman8886
@spicysnowman8886 7 місяців тому
It also sounds glorious, a dream car just got added to my list.
@TheHayabusa09
@TheHayabusa09 7 місяців тому
That's odd about the Audi RS2 as I've read articles back in the day where the Audi ran consistent 0-60mph in the high 4's (4.8-4.9secs)..
@seanpugh6792
@seanpugh6792 7 місяців тому
They could lick off mid 4 secs if you launched them hard enough they were pretty wild for the time…
@tylaranderson8559
@tylaranderson8559 7 місяців тому
I absolutely love these videos with Jason Cammisa. The quality of the videos are Beyond Compare, and really enjoy the effects of the car still racing in slow motion as he walks and talks around them. Couldn't help but laugh out loud when Jason sat in the back of the Audi and you can see the driver( probably the great Randy Probst) giving him the finger.
@FRENZYMAX
@FRENZYMAX 7 місяців тому
Whole Miata segment is just textbook sample of "Simplify, then add lightness". Bravo!
@nabilech4452
@nabilech4452 7 місяців тому
I'm a W124 E500 fan, and seeing that pristine piece of art again just revives one of the best child memories with that car ( my father had one for 20 year without a single issue ). I believe it's the best video I've seen in UKposts. My dream is to have one of these in my garage one day
@vahidiam3179
@vahidiam3179 7 місяців тому
These videos are so underrated I cannot comprehend why! Excellent presentation, stunningly creative cinematography, gorgeous cars! Hagerty is setting standards for what a true car show is about! After dawn of top gear I truly believe this is the best car show made!
@strykz63
@strykz63 7 місяців тому
Yo the bird in the rearview was classic,hilarious and much appropriate 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Malekbh1984
@Malekbh1984 7 місяців тому
That E500 is impressive! Who would have thought that slow 4-speed auto would be an asset!
@muhammadzailani7313
@muhammadzailani7313 7 місяців тому
I am simple man, I see a Cammisa video and I press like before watching.
@DmitriyOrlovDesign
@DmitriyOrlovDesign 7 місяців тому
absolutely phenomenal sequences and cuts of the post race slow motion and creative takes around that.. love this - what a great show with Jason Cammisa.
@lucabrasi8790
@lucabrasi8790 7 місяців тому
The w124 e500 is such a beast. My alltime favorite
@usonumabeach300
@usonumabeach300 7 місяців тому
The induction and exhaust noise of the 500e is fantastic, I bet with a good aftermarket exhaust it sings
@harryspeakup8452
@harryspeakup8452 7 місяців тому
R129 500SL here with the same engine and transmission. With a custom stainless exhaust and, yes, they do indeed sing once you uncork them a little
@jameswhitehead6758
@jameswhitehead6758 7 місяців тому
Randy's middle finger while glaring into the rearview mirror is legendary.
@georgekappland2935
@georgekappland2935 7 місяців тому
This is why as an old gen Xer I just bought a MX-5 RF a few months back. The performance of all those cars that you thought were bad ass (and were for their time) when you were a kid but now at 40mpg, cheap maintenance & under warranty. Oh, and it would kill the Merc, or any of them, in the twisties any day of the week. Great video Jason! Keep em coming!
@12pagani
@12pagani 2 місяці тому
I love a good Miata but the handling of the 500e is surprisingly good and with a competent driver, it will stay glued to the rears of much newer and “sportier” cars. I have a 560sel s class with the single cam version of the 500e and that car, I could easily pull away from 350 and 370Z’s, older Porsche Carraras, and hot versions of normal cars like the SI and GTI. That’s despite it weighing in at 4100 pounds and having a 4 speed automatic, but it has almost 400 ft-lbs of torque and a wonderful suspension and chassis for a big car.
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
Hit the like button before even watching. This can't be anything else than spectacular! Thanks, Jason and all the team!
@sketchbabu
@sketchbabu 7 місяців тому
E500 never disappoints
@ibrahimboutaleb1617
@ibrahimboutaleb1617 7 місяців тому
9:06 I FREAKED out when the Miata pulled up next to the 500E because that’s sorta what my garage looks like! I drive an ND2 Miata RF and my wife drives a W212 E550, a modern homage to the W124.
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
Give her that Mazda man 😂 Wouldn't trust my wife any of my Mercs😅
@rexfloyd2109
@rexfloyd2109 7 місяців тому
The production on these videos are insane. You all are amazing
@TheMogd0r
@TheMogd0r 7 місяців тому
I have never wanted your entire lineup more than today
@BnaBreaker
@BnaBreaker 7 місяців тому
Might have been the slowest, but give me that Avant over the others any day. It's still got such a cool, distinct design to it.
@tomfurstyfield
@tomfurstyfield 7 місяців тому
The angles and flybys are the best I've seen on UKposts, insane production!
@geekless
@geekless 7 місяців тому
The way these are filmed is absolutely incredible.
@simonlangner
@simonlangner 7 місяців тому
Wow, what a legendary lineup! Thank you, a real remarkable channel this is!😮
@kylestephenson778
@kylestephenson778 7 місяців тому
RS2 has recorded better times in the past by a huge margin (0-60 of 4.8 and a 1/4 mile of 13.45) of what it produced on this segment. I love the content but I think they were being a little soft on the RS2, it bogged hard after launch and got out of boost then didn't regain boost until mid 2nd gear. I can understand why they didn't want to damage a RS2 being its a $100k car in the US and a limited production car as well.
@Zreik20
@Zreik20 7 місяців тому
Honestly it looked like they botched the launch on the RS2 to me.
@daedalus_20v
@daedalus_20v 7 місяців тому
RS2 was doing sub-14 second quarters when new on OEM 90's tires. It was over a second quicker to 60mph than the Merc back in the day. That's what's so dumb about these kinds of videos. We're talking about three used 30 year-old cars lol. Lord knows what's wrong with any/all of them at this point. It's one thing to say, "on paper this car shouldn't win etc." but quite another to just totally ignore reality. RS2 should be crossing the finish line 2 seconds ahead of the M5 lol but hey whatever gets those clicks, right?
@marcusjosefsson4998
@marcusjosefsson4998 7 місяців тому
I guess that RS2 didn't have it's best day... It's definitely not 100% healthy, maxing out the rear suspension like that... It probably needs a minor chassis overhaul and a thorough inspection of vacuum hoses and wastegate.
@lqr824
@lqr824 7 місяців тому
It's also possible the best quarter miles were done by speed-shifting (keeping the throttle pinned) to keep the boost up, but that'd be bad for the clutch and rough on the whole power train. I've had cars in this category since 1995 (Supra, two E39 M5's, R35, F430 spider manual) and I floored them every time I got behind the wheel but never speed-shifted.
@marcusjosefsson4998
@marcusjosefsson4998 7 місяців тому
@@lqr824 The KKK turbo in the RS 2 is pretty big, but it spools up pretty fast. With a car in perfect health and just a little practice you don't need speed-shifting, it should be a lot faster than in this episode. Speaking from experience...
@SuperBackhere
@SuperBackhere 7 місяців тому
You're absolutely the best at your job and obviously you're loving it. That must feel really good.
@DPCcars
@DPCcars 7 місяців тому
Love the brute power of the Mercedes 500e ❤
@alternativefandotcom
@alternativefandotcom 7 місяців тому
The production value of these videos is beyond amazing!
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute 7 місяців тому
The Miata comparison is a good one; ND2s are actually pretty quick cars. I had a 94 NA and I already found it surprising how quick it got up to 100 MPH for a "slow" car (light weight and low frontal area!), then my friend gets a 2022 and it's another level of performance; he actually recently complained to me he wish it was a little slower bcuz he would like to spend more time in the throttle before he has to lift off or brake xD And I couldn't help but note my Golf Alltrack with a $500 stage 1 chip tune is probably a pretty dead match for an RS2 in a straight line...
@sylvaind.6786
@sylvaind.6786 7 місяців тому
500E was not meant for drag races anyway
@devandrasimanjuntak1646
@devandrasimanjuntak1646 7 місяців тому
@@sylvaind.6786with that being said, you’d expect a (then) mid-size sedan that’s powered by a V8 to have some level of performance at least. Otherwise, what’s the V8 for 😅
@deasystems
@deasystems 7 місяців тому
@@sylvaind.6786 : Nor is the MX-5 and yet, there you go…
@Yoshinoh
@Yoshinoh 7 місяців тому
@@devandrasimanjuntak1646 Autobahn
@Carfreak226
@Carfreak226 7 місяців тому
The production quality never ceases to amaze me. How do you guys put Jason’s shadow and his reflection on the cars in the post race walk around?!?!? Black magic 🔥
@borntodieworldisafuck
@borntodieworldisafuck 7 місяців тому
My opinion is that those walkthrough scenes are filmed practically, they just push the cars into a slow roll. Then layer the fog/dof effects to make the scene look slow-mo. Just would be the easiest way to film it, IME. I also can't remember ever seeing Jason in-car and on-track at the same time... he always exits his own car.
@IDontKnowWhatImDoingDIY
@IDontKnowWhatImDoingDIY 7 місяців тому
As a former 300e owner I'm amazed that 4spd didn't explode. Mine was made of cotton candy. Still loved that car. It drove and accelerated like a train locomotive. Its true luxury that they don't make anymore.
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
As a current 300TE owner I am not surprised at all. Those cars were built to last unlike the modern crap they produce nowadays.
@IDontKnowWhatImDoingDIY
@IDontKnowWhatImDoingDIY 7 місяців тому
@@505LAN yeah I have newer Merc now and while its better refined and engineered than Japanese or Korean competition, its built like total crap. I miss the build quality of my W124 and especially my W140. Legendary cars.
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
Yeah, man... Mercedes isn't as good as it used to be anymore. Fake leather, fake badges, all that electric crap, etc...Nothing beats the old Merc.
@ljx_ian
@ljx_ian 7 місяців тому
big props to camissa's editors for making one of the best video series on youtube
@andreasbone602
@andreasbone602 7 місяців тому
Fantastic as usual, and the production value is phenomenal!
@TheNismo777
@TheNismo777 7 місяців тому
Love the editing! It really shows well how things happend at each moment
@1337Superfly
@1337Superfly 7 місяців тому
LOVE, love, love these video. Thank you all Hagerty team!
@ukzz4iroc
@ukzz4iroc 7 місяців тому
Think this is the best editing I've seen on a car video. Excellent and what an interesting mix of cars too. Thank you
@polytzai
@polytzai 7 місяців тому
Amazing cinematic automotive history!👏🏻
@jamiedriscoll9781
@jamiedriscoll9781 7 місяців тому
I love these. It's like Christmas when u see Jason's drag races
@user-sp5bn6ye8y
@user-sp5bn6ye8y 7 місяців тому
How fricken EPIC is the camera work and editing on this??? Great work guys!
@l3v4rt
@l3v4rt 7 місяців тому
Awesome content as always guys! Looking forward to the next video :)
@kentbeitel9966
@kentbeitel9966 7 місяців тому
I would take the rs2 avant over the others. I love the way they look and to me, nothing sounds better than a audi 5 cylinder turbo🤘🔥
@malcolmjcullen
@malcolmjcullen 7 місяців тому
I'd take a Volvo 850 T5R before any of these.
@Vazin
@Vazin 7 місяців тому
Nice, then there's more for the rest of us.@@malcolmjcullen
@mrb2349
@mrb2349 7 місяців тому
Give me V8 any time.
@lm1314
@lm1314 7 місяців тому
I am greedy and want all three.
@abishek4300
@abishek4300 7 місяців тому
That LeMans winning Mercedes V8 tho!
@ottocardonarosado
@ottocardonarosado 7 місяців тому
Jason Cammisa is the GREATEST car journalist of all time. Period.
@lazydays_77
@lazydays_77 7 місяців тому
these are so solid, keep them coming!
@ElRayDelRio
@ElRayDelRio 7 місяців тому
Jason pumping the market 😂 thank you bro 😊 my Audi C4 urS4 appreciates you ❤
@TheJevrem
@TheJevrem 7 місяців тому
Now imagine if they used the S124 AMG e36. Now that would have been a mind blow!
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
He said next time in the end of the video. It's a rear beast, probably takes some time to catch one for the show😂
@maxgr7723
@maxgr7723 2 місяці тому
The e36 is not on par with the others...
@davidristic3800
@davidristic3800 7 місяців тому
LOL was literally standing in my kitchen this morning in my underwear, eating eggs, ketchup on my chin and crust still in my eyes....fantasizing about driving a 500E. Made a coffee, dragged myself to my computer, sat down to work and this is the first vid I see. 12 more minutes before I put my pants on. *Edit: LMAO at the finger at 8:13
@MrCwilson66
@MrCwilson66 7 місяців тому
This is my favorite video. I’ve watched it three times, and got chills when the merc pulled away! 😂
@marscarz
@marscarz 7 місяців тому
Simply amazing production. Thank you!
@robbievangeenenNL
@robbievangeenenNL 7 місяців тому
Amazing camera work and editing ❤
@SG-wm5fu
@SG-wm5fu 26 днів тому
What a great Competition! Amazing Video , thanks for that !
@albertomorales7322
@albertomorales7322 7 місяців тому
It's always great yo see a new video from these guys. WOW. Really nice way to made my day. I wish they came up with more and more videos faster. It is already the best series online 😁
@redline589
@redline589 7 місяців тому
Hagerty/Cammisa vids on point as always, thanks.
@nickleach3570
@nickleach3570 7 місяців тому
Jason, I bloody love your videos! Amazing how the Mazda could keep up, but we all know we all want the 500E! What a car!
@aowen1079
@aowen1079 7 місяців тому
I went and looked up E34 M5 sound compilation right here on UKposts. Those cars sound old school inline 6. I mean old school Japanese inline 6 sounds. I think it's pretty much one of the greatest soundtracks you can get on a vehicle.
@ElRayDelRio
@ElRayDelRio 7 місяців тому
Yes oh GOD yes! The most iconic station wagons for the 90s era ever! Let's fawken go! 💪🏽
@malcolmjcullen
@malcolmjcullen 7 місяців тому
No Volvo 850 T5R, which was pretty iconic for taking part in BTCC.
@tyhyhh
@tyhyhh 7 місяців тому
Legacy gtb on top
@kdz666
@kdz666 7 місяців тому
Camissa has become my favourite car presenter! Excellent content. Always.
@haithemelforjani2297
@haithemelforjani2297 3 місяці тому
The way the video was produced is awesome. Keep up the good work man
@einpercy825
@einpercy825 7 місяців тому
The quality of this video is next level. The cars are beautys. What a master piece of a video
@mikef1848
@mikef1848 7 місяців тому
But that audi 5 cylinder turbo with a manual and short gears does sound veeeeery good to me..
@vintage76vipergreenBeetle
@vintage76vipergreenBeetle 7 місяців тому
Wow, that old w124 is fast.🤤
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
That old W124 is not only fast it's better than any new Mercedes imho.
@janbrada4990
@janbrada4990 Місяць тому
Stunning video, guys! Amazing post-production!
@mercmaniac666
@mercmaniac666 7 місяців тому
yo this is come clever editing love it!
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 7 місяців тому
Can't help but wonder if that RS2 has a boost leak. That's a 4.8 second 0-60 car and in good shape with the right launch will leave that 500E behind. Also, please find a place to do rolling races as well. They add an entirely different dynamic.
@bartbart6545
@bartbart6545 6 місяців тому
factory claims was 0-100 5.6 so never less that 5 sec 0-60...but back 1994 I watched the tests and audi was fastests and merc slowest
@PaddyMcQueen
@PaddyMcQueen 7 місяців тому
That Rs2 deserved a better driver for sure... something is wrong with this test. The rs2 has a 0 to 90 time of average 12.5 sec. You got slower time. Near 2 sec in fact
@Mikeeg0607
@Mikeeg0607 7 місяців тому
Evo tested the RS2 and got 4.8 0-60 so either this car was down on power or they didn't launch it hard enough or maybe both. I can understand them not wanting to break the car but maybe include a side note mentioning what the car is really capable of.
@PaddyMcQueen
@PaddyMcQueen 7 місяців тому
@@Mikeeg0607 👍🏻
@hottub2249
@hottub2249 7 місяців тому
As always, great video and production. I would love to see the outtakes of these, assuming they’re of watching value.
@TheAffenkotze
@TheAffenkotze 7 місяців тому
Jeez. That editing, screenplay, and presentation are world class.
@TimV1987
@TimV1987 7 місяців тому
You can't expect that a 30 year old car doesn't have any problems. Maybe the rs2 has a boost leak and the m5 a tooth misplaced by the last timingbeld change or some other problem. In my eye's the e500 at that race, is the only car that is not down on power. Greetz from Holland!
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 7 місяців тому
Yeah that RS2 is over a second slower than it should be. Something's up.
@505LAN
@505LAN 7 місяців тому
That 500E is THE car there bro😂
@hexagonosaurus5848
@hexagonosaurus5848 7 місяців тому
​@@505LANTHE only non manual, not wagon car there 😢😂
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