The Forgotten ULTIMATE MARVEL Characters (ft. ComicPop & Alex Lennen)
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0:00 - Introduction
2:24 - Ultimate Deadpool
6:33 - Ultimate Captain Marvel
10:19 - Patreon
11:11 - Ultimate Thanos
16:43 - Hawk Owl & Woody (ComicPop)
20:58 - Ultimate She-Hulk
25:04 - Ultimate Cable
30:05 - Ultimate Vision (Alex Lennen)
33:14 - Red Skull
38:01 - Conclusion
39:46 - Outro
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@jovensworld2037 Місяць тому
Ultimate Marvel’s take on Deadpool wasn’t that forgotten, yeah he only appears in 4 issues, but he actually made his return as a boss for Ultimate Spider-Man in the Symbiote suit,and the host of his new reality show Pain Factor in Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions in 2010.
@MysticalGreenBeanie Місяць тому
The worst part about Ultimate Deadpool is that he's a vet from the "Wakanda Wars", which sounds really cool and interesting, but is never explored lol.
@pious83 28 днів тому
A running theme when it came to the history of 1610.
@wesstewart2677 27 днів тому
@@pious83yeah a lot of really cool ideas get introduced then never explored further. Like doom in 1610 being a descendant of Vlad Tepes/Dracula
@newellhome 27 днів тому
Would’ve been cool if they tied his faces disfigurement to Black Panther
@MysticalGreenBeanie 27 днів тому
@@newellhome I like that idea too. But I really dig that he and the Reavers do it to themsevels because they hate mutants so much, they'd destroy themselves to have the chance to kill them.
@serbukmomogi 20 днів тому
@@wesstewart2677didn't they also redesign his looks? i always finds that disappointing, i love the goat legs they gave for doom, It made him look unique
@juliiju0484 Місяць тому
It's worth highliting that the design for Ultimate Captain Marvel was actually the design Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes ended up using for their take on Mar-Vell and kree soldiers. It's a solid design that updates the character's classic costume to the modern day.
@comicbookreviewer4856 Місяць тому
The way i would do the Ultimate that On Captain Marvel for my Marvel Universe is have The Planet logo on their chest as their rank and what Job role they have I also would have supreme intelligence as Not only full Kree but also a twin to it skrull counterpart Intelligentsia who would've been one of the Elders of the Universe I also would've Had Mar-vell not only as The Supreme Intelligence youngest son but also the Younger brother of roman the accuser and Korath the Pursuer
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Місяць тому
Ultimate Cap was a skrull
@osirisatot19 20 днів тому
Yeah it is a damn good design and I hope it will show up in the new Ultimate comics, even if it isn't on Mar Vell.
@rubiconprime1429 Місяць тому
I never knew that EMH Mar-Vell took his design from the Ultimate comics. Cool.
@TevyaSmolka Місяць тому
I knew about him
@michaelshort4339 Місяць тому
Ultimate Mar-vell's design was itself an updated take on the classic 616 Kree soldier design. It all connects.
@TevyaSmolka Місяць тому
@@michaelshort4339 yup that’s right
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Місяць тому
I knew it back when the show came out
@OwenLikesComics Місяць тому
It's a cool design! Also a throwback to the original Mar-Vell costume.
@MelchVagquest Місяць тому
I loved the concept of Ultimate Cable being Logan from the future. When I first saw the claws come out with blood running down his hand, I gasped
@TevyaSmolka Місяць тому
Honestly it’s kind of sad that a lot of these ultimate marvel characters didn’t get the love they deserved but on the other hand a lot of them like ultimate Deadpool and ultimate thanos were just disappointing and really went nowhere in my opinion.
@OwenLikesComics Місяць тому
Yeah, Thanos especially seems like a dropped-ball given how large a role he's played in Marvel storytelling in years since.
@Vekette Місяць тому
@@OwenLikesComicsand this spin of a tyrant potentially caught in an unwitting time loop is really interesting
@TevyaSmolka Місяць тому
@@OwenLikesComics indeed and honestly it just breaks my heart that thanos was wasted within in ultimate fantastic four and not used as a universal threat for the ultimate marvel universe and heck they could've made him a big giant epic threat for the entire ultimate marvel universe to take down for a event way more then galactus who was also wasted in the ultimate marvel universe in my opinion.
@Bubblegob Місяць тому
@@TevyaSmolka Galactus was lame but you can see the event book is more about how to assemble the complicated Ultimate Universe to identify and face a planetary threat than about Galactus as a concept or a character (even if their take on it feel soooo 2000's movie script it hurts). I would've like a take on infinity gauntlet with or without Thanos. The Thanos arc wasn't great but it was one of the better arcs of the book if you're actually reading Ultimate FF and not just checking the Thanos issue... He's still a highlight. What made Thanos great in the first place was that as Starlin's baby he ended up being much more of a main character in the books featuring him than an antagonist and, unlike the movies, I don't think the Ultimate Universe figured that out or was even trying to. Had they developped him or brought him back the stars were not aligned for him to be any more than an average Super Villain.
@handlebarsmustache Місяць тому
@@OwenLikesComicsIt's strange to me that they were going for Darkseid, when all I see is Cull Obsidian that's also an Apocalypse/Brainiac amalgamation.
@jorgeneedssleep7978 Місяць тому
An ultimate character that I sometimes remember was Steven Strange Jr, and while he isn't forgotten Jimmy Hudson was brought into the 616 canon for some reason and they have done absolutely nothing with him
@OwenLikesComics Місяць тому
I didn't include Jimmy because Alex recently did a big video about him (and Ultimate X-Men in general). The Doctor Strange situation is interesting, I'd like to do a video on all the old Ultimate Marvel Team-Up comics at some point, so I may discuss it there.
@louiscyphre6021 23 дні тому
You would think Jimmy would be involved with the stuff between Sabretooth and Wolverine currently(including his family)
@jovensworld2037 Місяць тому
Ultimate Marvel’s take on Deadpool wasn’t that forgotten, yeah he only appears in 4 issues, but he actually made his return as a boss for Ultimate Spider-Man in the Symbiote suit,and the host of his new reality show Pain Factor in Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions in 2010.
@traveonwilcher8603 Місяць тому
☝️🤓
@matthewavalos9409 Місяць тому
Bruh
@matthewavalos9409 Місяць тому
@@traveonwilcher8603really?
@TevyaSmolka Місяць тому
@@matthewavalos9409 yup that's right he appeared in that game as a boss fight.
@TheCaptainKuhn Місяць тому
Yes but his characterization closer to that of 616 Deadpool and its not really canon to the comics
@conradojavier7547 Місяць тому
Ultimate Deadpool was meant to bring Deadpool back to his Serious Roots.
@marcusharris188 Місяць тому
I remember beginning the Deadpool comics before the first movie came out and it was definitely strange how much more serious it was lol... And then like suddenly bam! He's crazy quirky so random
@vemoniscool Місяць тому
Eh tbf it wasn't the movie that made Deadpool more jokie it started when Daniel way took over, right around secret invasion. @@marcusharris188
@Bubblegob Місяць тому
Then when Shattered dimension was in development and main Universe Deadpool was insanely popular they decided to make the level of the game featuring Ultimate Deadpool a full-on Deadpool one man show characterizing him as his main-universe counterpart. It backfired.
@Bubblegob Місяць тому
@@marcusharris188 Deadpool is complicated, his first comic arc is actually quite close to the movie with Blind Al and Weasel and his kind of slacker attitude as a guy in general, he's nasty and has a twisted sense of humor but it's mostly apparent in his domestic life and the rest of the time he was a badass merc/anti-hero who never shuts up in the way Spidey does. For some time as he had no longer a solo serie his characterization was less humoristic, it fluctuated until some writer leaned in very hard into the voices in his head and absurd humor. I don't think Way came up with it but once deadpool had a solo serie again and Way began writting it the deadpool we know today was fully formed. It was way before the movie I'd say.
@mikhaelgribkov4117 Місяць тому
@@Bubblegob no it didn't, people love that level and every time people think of the best levels of Shattered Dimension, the Deadpool one come to mind.
@comicpop Місяць тому
Thanks so much for having me! This episode came out fantastic!
@OwenLikesComics Місяць тому
Thank you so much! Anytime I get to work with you is always a blast, and I appreciate you taking the time to be apart of this video.
@benparrish672 22 дні тому
The NashVillain is subbed to yawl both
@fenrirsrage4609 26 днів тому
It says a lot that when Ultimate Deadpool made his appearance in a videogame they, decided to just say "fuck it" transplant 616's Deadpool personality onto him.
@ShockwaveFPSStudios 21 день тому
And it was fucking cool, seeing the Ultimate Deadpool act like the REAL Deadpool. Hell, I’m glad they actually made an explaination as to why Ultimate Deadpool breaks the fourth wall in the game.
@carterh914 20 днів тому
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosI don't ever remember them explaining that actually in that game.
@yasushix3672 18 днів тому
What game marvel ultimate alliance?
@fenrirsrage4609 18 днів тому
@@yasushix3672 Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions.
@yasushix3672 18 днів тому
@@fenrirsrage4609 goated
@bizarroguy6570 Місяць тому
Kinda shocked the first Ultimate Scorpion or The Spider-Twins didn’t get a mention as both were characters had a lot of built up, but very little payoff.
@pkrockinomega4184 Місяць тому
I find it interesting that out of all the characters you talked about here, the only one that seemed to have gotten a completed story and was used the best was Ultimate Cable. I guess that since his existence was predicated on time travel, I suppose there was only so much they could do with him to have a satisfying story which I guess worked to his benefit.
@pious83 28 днів тому
(Old Man) Bishop was similarly killed off by the resolution of the Apocalypse storyline too. Removing all threads from that arc completely.
@Batguy001 Місяць тому
Shame that you didn’t talk about the Ultimate version of Spider-Woman. Cause I really like her character.
@OwenLikesComics Місяць тому
I talked about her in the Ultimate Clone Saga video and didn't want to omit a character I hadn't previously discussed to include her again in this video. I'm a big fan of Ultimate Jessica Drew though, it's a shame she wasn't utilised more!
@ScarlettMelody Місяць тому
@@OwenLikesComics Right?! I mean, while not conventionally, she really is one of, if not the, first trans sapphics in Marvel and like... We need her back somehow
@shivangaur9084 Місяць тому
I still have never felt as attached to characters as I have to Ultimate Spider-Man and that cast of characters. Having Peter, Gwen, Johnny and Bobby all living in the same house as a family was so amazing to see. Then you had the external friend group with Mary Jane and Kitty and Aunt May as the mom of them all. Sad that we never got to see more stories of Peter in David Marquez's artstyle after he came back to life (Even though I think he had the best death in comics), but I'm glad we get to see this new 6160 version from Hickman that hits all the same beats but in a different way!
@wesreleases6346 Місяць тому
Peter’s death was so good that his resurrection will always disappoint me. It’s something I have to ignore in my head to keep his death as impactful as it was.
@user-op8yh6xl6t Місяць тому
I think the Captain Marvel film really missed a trick by just not giving Carol Mar-vell's origin, an alien soldier who defects because she finds something noble and worth saving about humanity.
@dakotanelson8523 16 днів тому
30:33 The fact that there were 3 completely seperate and unrelated versions of the Vision in the Ultimate really sums up what a disjointed mess the Ultimate Universe had become by it's end.
@robertrowley4929 29 днів тому
I absolutely adore ultimate vision’s relationship with Sam Wilson. It’s a shame that it was never explored further; because there was plenty more potential ripe for the taking.
@Spider_Variant96 23 дні тому
Best thing to happen to Ultimate Deadpool was in the video game "Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions." He has a level dedicated to him and it's implied that the explosion did something to his brain. So now (for that game) he acted like his 616 counterpart, complete with fourth wall breaks and a more comedic personality
@abdelali9279 29 днів тому
This is the first time I ever heard that Marvel really wanted to make a Batman like for the Ultimate Universe, like what were they thinking?! 😅
@DogeTheTruth Місяць тому
Would love a sequel video for more forgotten Ultimate characters
@jackrook8715 Місяць тому
Dan Ketch as Machine Man was an interesting choice in the Ulti-verse
@mattjvr6189 Місяць тому
Ultimate Deadpool appeared as a boss fight in the Spider-Man shattered dimensions video game. It's never confirmed if it's the same guy from the comic book run, and the version has more in common with his 616 counterpart in terms of powers and overall demeanor.
@Dismix_ Місяць тому
Honestly I could see a more compelling version of red skull where he believes that anything is justified if he can get his hands on the cosmic cube. Like he was banking on creating a world where he has a family and he’d never become a monster. He can do heinous things cause it’d all be erased. And once he fails he can completely breakdown as his one way to get out of the cycle of violence was denied him.
@billymccrary2246 Місяць тому
There were other forgotten Ultimate Marvel characters; Man-Thing - Who only appear in one issue of the Ultimate Universe in Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #10, which mark the first appearance of the Ultimate Lizard, as well. Morbius - Who only appears in two issues of Ultimate Spider-Man where he were a ACTUAL vampire is the son of Vlad Dracula who instead help defend people from evil vampires, which probably make him a much better version of the character than what Sony did with the Morbius movie. And seriously, why didn't see him teaming up with the Ultimate Universe Blade, that's would've been so cool. And, they were the only two characters i could think of...
@ChrisAnd Місяць тому
Raymond Conner is still number 1# on most forgotten characters by being forgotten on a list about forgotten characters. Dare(to remember)Devil
@OwenLikesComics Місяць тому
He got his own dedicated video a while back, what a truly fascinating and weird character he was.
@adamleopard9406 Місяць тому
Love when you cover the ultimate universe. as i late arriver to comics its the only thing ive felt ive been able to fully follow. also an appearance of the GOAT Sal from comic pop
@prestondubose3227 Місяць тому
Owen, comic pop, Alex, and Smokey’s video has kept my strong love for the ultimate universe alive… I remember it felt like a few of us who loved it but it seems like everyone loves it, and it’s back!
@user-oo5jb8uq6v 27 днів тому
Lol! Your making me feel old.😆 I always enjoyed the twist of Ultimate Cable, it was a good surprise and you get the fun of normal Cable without the complicated history that comes with him. Honestly, a lot of the Ultimate line can be summed up as "wasted potential". The vibe that I got back in the day was that they had some kind of plan but it either kept falling short or never materialized(like Bryan Singer was supposed the write a big story arc for Ultimate X-men but directing conflicts made it never happened). Also didn't help that it felt at times like the ones in charge didn't care as long as nothing messed with whatever the big names had planned. Which just leads to a lot of cool ideas and characters with nowhere to go.
@comicscinemaothermedia9247 27 днів тому
Ultimate Deadpool also appeared in Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions with a TV show called Pain Factor but was written more like his 616 counterpart
@outpostalpha Місяць тому
Wow, I had either forgotten or didn't know about a lot of these. It's pretty amazing how little was done with the Ultimate versions of some of Marvel's best loved characters.
@pious83 28 днів тому
Having missed the Hulk Vs Wolverine mini series. I had no idea Ultimate She-Hulk existed at all.
@bartoszdulas1703 Місяць тому
Actually the best appearance we had from Ultimate Deadpool was as a stage villain in Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions. His level was the most entertaining one and he actually acted more like his 616 counterpart. And of course, fantastic performance by Nolan North. The boggest impact that Ultimate Captain Marvel had, was the fact in animated series Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Captain Marvel design was heavily based on Ultimate variant.
@MelchVagquest Місяць тому
In Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions, Deadpool is a boss in one of the Ultimate Spider-Man missions. Deadpool has “gone insane,” causing his personality to better reflect his main canon counterpart
@adambuckley2270 Місяць тому
Ultimate Captain Marvel is one of my favorite designs ever. Love how it takes the original design and thrusts it in a new, ultra "modern" direction.
@darthkamen6564 Місяць тому
I am a huge 1610 shill, so I always get a kick when it gets talked about, even if it's not super positive. I can't pretend that all of the reinventions were great, and the stories they are within are super hit or miss, but I do love more than I don't. Which really sums up my thoughts on the UU as a whole.
@That.Classy_Mason 8 днів тому
Jimmy Hudson was definitely a cool legacy hero being the son of Wolverine. Having organic coating metal for his claws added a nice touch to his mutation.
@steampunk1610 Місяць тому
Ultimate Vision was my favorite amongst these characters. Its unfortunate that she was wasnt used much at all.
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Місяць тому
Im loving Jonathan Hickmans Ultimate Spider-Man comics and im liking peach momokos Ultimate X-Men comic right now
@clarktooncrossing3975 Місяць тому
Hey, Ultimate Deadpool was used one more time. In Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions. He's essentially his 616 version, only now he has a small militia that runs a television show just like his 1616 version. It also gave us Nolan North in the role for the first time, so hey, Ultimate Deadpool did something right.
@ShockwaveFPSStudios 21 день тому
Nolan North first voiced Deadpool in Hulk Vs.
@strombreakr Місяць тому
0:11 I feel like the fact that all for women in this shot are wearing crop tops says something about the Ultimate universe
@mttylerdurden9 Місяць тому
That's more an early 2000s thing
@stapuft Місяць тому
Nope. The fact you think it says anything, says more about you, than anything.
@strombreakr Місяць тому
@@stapuft It was a joke because the Ultimate comics are infamous for their edginess and attempts to appeal more towards teenagers, specifically boys
@Kurotaisa Місяць тому
@@mttylerdurden9 Yeah that was my take on it lol
@strongman5243 29 днів тому
@@stapuftnope. That fact that you think it says anything about him says more about you than anything
@diegodreossi1458 Місяць тому
Ultimate Mar-Vell has my favorite look of Captain Marvel.
@Joecbg100 29 днів тому
Minor note Ronan is Thanos son in the 1610 universe and resembles Steppenwolf too. And in Hulk vs Wolverine, Jen Walters sells the Hulk serum and found out by Fury to be asking for a copy of the reboot of Star Trek, written at the time by Lindelof and JJ Abrams in a ha ha moment of deprecation.
@D.S.handle Місяць тому
Pasqual Ferry art on the Ultimate FF was so good.
@yamnow4273 Місяць тому
The best moment when reading any ultimate comic was to see the redesigns
@GameFactsSpecial 29 днів тому
This is my favorite comic channel. Love the subjects chosen, the chill music, and editing.
@OwenLikesComics 29 днів тому
Thank you so much!
@ReaperXC Місяць тому
Silver surfer was a subordinate for Psycho man if i rmeember correctly. That was a fun change.
@user-op8yh6xl6t Місяць тому
Gonna be that guy. Reed didn't trap Thanos in a time loop in the Cosmic Cube. He removed a safety mechanism in the Cube that prevented it from granting subconscious wishes. Since Thanos's greatest subconscious wish was to permanently become one with death, the Cube granted his wish by killing him. Then Reed opened a time warp to the past to give Thanos the Cube thousands of years in the past, creating a closed time loop and explaining the origin of the original Cube Thanos used.
@gageansman295 19 днів тому
One honorable mention for me is Ultimate Sinister. Instead of being a mad geneticist, he's an almost supernatural psychic mutant serial killer with two guns and hallucinations of his God Apocalypse. Is it different, yes. But I personally really like that he's basically a fanatic with a gun and how dangerous that can be. Also the line "The one true enemy of the great Charles Xavier...Stairs" before chucking Prof. X down a staircase will never not be funny to me.
@simonvigilgarcia2306 Місяць тому
Amazing video! I hope we get a secon part!!!
@owensreviews625 Місяць тому
A bit late to this, but great work Owen! I find it fascinating how, as impactful as it was through it’s 21st century reinvention of characters like Spider-Man or the Avengers/Ultimates, the original Ultimate Marvel Universe had its fair share of updates that just didn’t land the way they should’ve.
@parkerstoops6058 Місяць тому
So glad you’re branching out!
@Axiom125 26 днів тому
Great video! Found you a bit ago and have enjoyed watching them
@OwenLikesComics 25 днів тому
Awesome, thank you!
@Tylerisawesome2 Місяць тому
Should do a sequel video to talk about the ultimate version of spider woman & firestar
@Peecamarke Місяць тому
Thanks for the link Sal!
@nathanwalters4867 29 днів тому
Wow. Great video and thanks. A lot of these characters retakes are pretty interesting but some were not executed all that well. Cable looks to be the coolest from this list. I've been delving into the Ultimate Universe as Marvel releases them in omnibus form. I am really enjoying it. Ultimate Spider-Man is quickly crawling into my top 10 runs of all time. The Ultimates By Millar And Hitch is some thought provoking and crazy stuff. Hickman is solid as per usual. I really liked Ultimate X-Men By Millar but I think it got better with Bendis, Vaughn, and I'm halfway through Kirkman's stuff. That take on The Vision almost seems more in tune with the Silver Surfer. Alien being comes to Earth, has ties to Gah Lak Tus, finds it's humanity. I also really liked those minis by Bendis and Sandoval that told the downfall of Reed. I'm excited to keep reading this stuff. And then there's the new Ultimate Universe kickstarted by Hickman. Haha. Take care and peace.
@fatenabu1 Місяць тому
the ultimate marvel Captain Marvel inspired the Earth's Mightiest Heroes one.
@AkiDave Місяць тому
Great video Owen! 💙
@erikholmysti Місяць тому
Great video! I remembered the vision during the galactus saga. The ultimate books were very good for their time.
@ReaperXC Місяць тому
Ultimate Thanos is the version I picture when I think of thanos.
@BKsBullets Місяць тому
Great video. I had to go and read my Ultimate Spider-Man Volume of Deadpool before I watched ur video, since it's where I was in my re-read for my channel.
@yourtube1424 Місяць тому
Thanks Owen been looking forward to this one. Im honestly not surprised the Ultimate Universe was so popular at times but it does seem like they dropped the ball on the majority of stuff and a lot of good ideas! Im starting to collect Ultimate Universe Omnibuses now and after this I’ve been visually drawn into a few more. Ultimate Deadpools look is clean! Ultimate Thanos with a bit more of a Darkseid-esque look and motive is interesting but with Black Suit Reed Richards by his side that has got me! Even Cable it’s like more of a What If Wolverine & The Phoenix got married not Cyclops so that works for me. Another Visual is Charles Xavier in the Onslaught inspired suit & what I assume was Wolverine/Cable next to him in the X-face suit. I’ve been following the new Ultimate relaunch closely so far and exited for what’s to come!
@esotericautist7420 Місяць тому
Ultimate Deadpool appeared in Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions.
@scatman786 29 днів тому
I’ve read Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk and I still forgot She-Hulk was in the ultimate Universe
@jacobwilliams1223 15 днів тому
Mostly cause her entire purpose was to be a damsel bargaining chip for Fury to have a leash on the Hulk. Which you really didn't need to make her She-Hulk for that purpose...
@nicksmyth4050 Місяць тому
It would be cool if HawkOwl in the main Marvel universe is a comic book series that is 616’s version of the Batman franchise
@batuchthebruh5165 Місяць тому
Ah, Rise and the fall of Vision.
@codyashford6047 22 дні тому
Ultimate Adventure was wild.
@marvelcraftgamer4086 Місяць тому
OLC, Comic Pop and Alex Lennen all in one video? Count me in.
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Місяць тому
I love mahr vehls design
@diurtydantv8061 Місяць тому
Ultimate Captain Marvels suit is sick as FUCK. I love it.
@Shift_Salt Місяць тому
Style over substance feels like the execution for a lot of these different takes.
@davehandelman2832 Місяць тому
This was DYNAMITE, Owen!!!
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 Місяць тому
Sal now has talked about that book 3 times on 3 different channels 😆 Sal is the reason I know about U-decide
@jonathongibson7895 Місяць тому
Wasted potential and wondering what could have been is always as interesting a discussion as what was or will be In my opinion. Great video
@ronb113 7 днів тому
Very fun video!
@davidblank420 Місяць тому
Sal is the man.
@marvelprince Місяць тому
I picked up Ultimate Adventures and I still have a soft spot for it. The delays killed its momentum for sure, but I always wanted him to come back. Always surprised when someone remembers this mini
@mr.unpopularopinion6431 Місяць тому
One version for the characters i was really hoping you were gonna take about is ultimate Ben Reily, kinda mad on how made him but i feel bad fod the character in the same time
@dontreportmygt9772 26 днів тому
Came here from comic Pop Love the video so far
@tomasarni2163 23 дні тому
Could you do a video on Jonathan Hickman's tenure at Marvel? I feel like the man has done so much crazy stuff, it warrants a video. Especially the recent X-Men stuff and why he left that.
@GuessWho7197 4 дні тому
There is one more appearance of Ultimate Deadpool, though it's outside the comics. In the Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions video game, he's a boss fight whose personality is much closer to that of his 616 counterpart. I think there was some background text or throw away dialogue that said the explosion had scrambled his brain.
@ReflexVE 28 днів тому
I'm in the small group who actually quite enjoyed Ultimate Fantastic Four. Especially once Pascal Ferry took over the art. It felt very experimental and explored interesting concepts, and while I'm normally not into more abstract art Ferry grew on me, and his style really suited Godwars which addressed additional dimensions beyond the four we can experience here. It also felt less beholden to the post 9/11 mindset mentioned in this video that permeated other comics in the lineup, especially The Ultimates which does not hold up well at all in retrospect (even ignoring the horrible 3rd mini), which makes it more timeless.
@mephosto 20 днів тому
i would argue ultimate red skull going so brutal makes sense. when the chance to completely change everything, a single magic wish, would a monster go even harder? after all, it's all getting erased anyway.
@mrheroprimes Місяць тому
ultimates apocalypse Shouldn't even exist in the Earth's 1610 continuity due to how thee mutants came into existence That being a pathogen that was created from Wolverines dna that was then put into the water supply by a Canadian government meaning it's completely impossible for some one like apocalypse to exist since Mutants didn't show up in the ultimate universe until after those experiments on Wolverine occurred
@cujohjosefumi1252 Місяць тому
in the ultimate universe Apocalypse isn't even "real" he's just a 2nd personality of Mr Sinister (who thought that Apocalypse was real)
@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 2 дні тому
I like the idea of Ultimate Thanos being way more in line with Darkseid, but man both in personality and appearance just looks nothing like Thanos, at least make him purple so he's the slightest bit recognizable.
@RSRye Місяць тому
3 goats of UKposts comics, in one vid; get outtttaaaaa heeeeeeere!!!!!!
@archeogeek315 Місяць тому
According to this video you didn't get a solo serie you are officially a forgoten character, even though Deadpool for exemple apeared in a very memorable spider-man level in shattered dimension.
@OwenLikesComics Місяць тому
Technically that's not the same version of Deadpool. I thought it was but, upon looking into it, the Marvel wiki says they're two distinct versions (albeit with a lot of similarities).
@eduardoperezrubio4965 29 днів тому
Ironic that MCU thanos was more of an ultimate thanos, than ultimate thanos that was more tied to the real life origins of thanos.
@mathieuleader8601 Місяць тому
Speaking of forgotten Ultimate renditions of Mavel characters I really like the reality warper the Magician Elliot Boggs.
@NerdRahtio Місяць тому
Carols Danvers is by far my least favorite Captain Marvels. She was great as Warbird though. I am a Genis Veil fan, which makes the idea of Ultimate Rick Jones being Captain Marvel interesting, since he was tied with Genis in that 616 run.
@Ocelot835 Місяць тому
Personally I liked her interpretation in Ultimate, natural born leader that doesn't need to wear colorful spandex for somekind of validation and is capable to humble the members of Ultimates about their superheroic bullshit no matter the situation!
@TerranIV Місяць тому
I love Ultimate Deadpool's mask design!
@jordanhowe188 Місяць тому
I really love Ultimate Deadpool's costume and his more serious portrayal, while still being a motor mouth psycho. I wish he'd appeared more often and gotten some character development. Classic Deadpool is a cool, but I wish he wasn't quite so ridiculous.
@The_Albino_Jackal 27 днів тому
Imo, Kleiser should’ve been the ultimate red skull, and the ultimate red skull we got should’ve been ultimate winter soldier
@Segasiss Місяць тому
We NEED some sort of part 2 to this video. It’s kind of surprising how little of the marvel universe the ultimate universe actually touched. There’s no real Luke cage, iron first appears like twice, task master is meh, the list goes onnn
@PureMaddnessOne 23 дні тому
Ultimate Deadpool came back in the Shattered Dimensions game. His children Genis-Vell and Phyla-vel were better and more well known as Captain Marvel under comics fans, same as Monica Rambeau. Carol Danvers 1st appeared as Ms. Marvel, she was more a character back than and better written. Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel is pretty recent. Still wish we had the OG Captain Marvel 1st in the MCU, so we could have his kids now. In Ultimate univere the name Galactus is Gah Lak Tus. He did merge with the main universe version. The Ultimate universe version of Negative zone as been renamed N-Zone for years. It is funny that Ultimate universe Thanos is a lot like Darkseid from DC, almost parody like, while being weaker than main universe version, whom is tons weaker than Darkseid. Betty Ross is Red She-Hulk and (Red) Harpy in main universe. Bruce became Hulk, because government tried 2 replicate the Captain America formula. Ultimate Universe Apocalypse is a alternative personality inside Ulimate Universe Mr Sinister. The other 2 Visions in Ultimate Universe. 1 was made by Hank Pym and just there so Scarlet Witch could flirt with him and make Quicksilver jealous. The other is Robert Mitchell, whom is a kid who made anti-matter bomb in his basement, Shield captured him and mutated him into the something like the Vision of main Universe. In main Universe the Red Skull was a hired person, he wasn't part of the WW2 party of funny mustache man by origin, funny is funny mustache man was actually a bit scared of Red Skull. Ultimate universe is 1 of the 3 universes that is used as groundwork for the Ultimate Universe.
@platypusfox73 Місяць тому
Ultimate Deadpool did get a bit of a redemption in the Spider-Man Shattered Dimensional video game where his level is actually considered to be one of the best in the game. Though it's quite clear that they did change him a up a bit to be more in line with his 616 counterpart.
@Logan5 29 днів тому
Dec '05-May '09 for the release schedule of Hulk v Wolverine? Yeah, I was wondering why I didnt have all of that series when I was doing an Ultimate re-read. I'll wonder no longer.
@rorylumley4727 26 днів тому
ultimate deadpool did have a memorable level in spider-man shattered dimmensions.
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Місяць тому
Any chance you could do a video on ultimate Ghost Rider
@OwenLikesComics Місяць тому
It was originally on my list for this video. If I do another video looking at more forgotten Ultimate characters, I'll be sure to include it!
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Місяць тому
@@OwenLikesComics thank you
@Ocelot835 Місяць тому
From all forgotten Ultimate Marvel heroes I found Modi the most interesting! Son of Thor and Hela that was destined for greatness, yet lost everything after second fall of Asgard and got trapped for thousands of years inside World Tree, becoming just as crazy and wicked as his uncle Loki once was. All he ever desired is to return his birth right as heir of God's kingdom by recreating it on Earth, but was denied and ultimately killed by the hands of his own father...
@jessemillan1385 Місяць тому
I grew up loving the Ultimate Universe because of the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, The Ultimates, Ultimates Fantastic Four, and Ultimate X-Men. But the characters that were easily forgotten such as Ultimate Deadpool, Ultimate Thanos, Ultimate Hawk Owl and Woody, Ultimate She-Hulk and Ultimate Red Skull should've gotten more stories in the Ultimate Universe. Not only that, other characters such as Ultimate Blade, Ultimate Spider-Woman, Jimmy Hudson, Ultimate DareDevil, Ultimate Punisher, Ultimate Ghost Rider, and Ultimate Doctor Strange should've had standalone stories instead of just being Killed off or shoved aside I love the Ultimate Universe, but these forgotten characters should've been taken more seriously. And I want that to happen in the new Ultimate Universe.
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