Gordie Howe getting snubbed is insane

"Niklas Lidstrom was clearly the best Red Wings player ever ... " NO hockey expert would put Lidstrom ahead of Gordie Howe.

Gordie Howe is rolling in his grave. Wow!

I understand why a lot of ppl will say Selanne or getzlaf for the Ducks but Paul Karyia was very underrated goat

Gordie Howe is a top 3 player of all time along with Gretzky and Bobby Orr.It’s not rational to deny that he was the greatest Red Wing ever.

Gordie Howe is called Mr. Hockey for a reason

How can you not pick Mr. Hockey for Detroit ?

I was at Brodeur's first game and my family had season tickets for the Devils since day one until 2004. Saw him win the cup 2x.

I like how like half of the H Sedin clips were of his brother Daniel 🤣

For the Hurricanes, Ron Francis was by far the best player for the franchise, when they were the Hartford Whalers. Check out Francis' stats. Huge. Howe for Detroit, no brainer (I thought).

Mike Bossy’s 9 consecutive 50 goal seasons is an NHL record Gretzky and Ovechkin also had 9 50 goal seasons, but not consecutively Injuries ended Bossy’s career after 9 full seasons, and a partial 10th season So yeah, no brainer choice

for you young-ins who may not know or remember there was an era sandwiched between the "goalies don't know what their doing 80s" and "removal of the red line 2010s" in the 90s/early 2000s know for the defensive "neutral zone trap" and games would routinely end 1-0, or 2-1 so let Selanne's goal scoring numbers sink in. Absolutely underrated legend.

Gordie Howe was the best Red Wing and still is. 4 Stanley Cups, a 26 season career and waw so good he inspired the Great One. Also Alfredsson was the best Senators player. Played 17 seasons with them and has 1,157 points and he carried the team long before Karlsson got there

Whoever edits this didn't get the memo that Henrik was 33, almost exclusively showed Daniel

I was fortunate enough to meet Jean Beliveau at Le Texan in Montreal.

The selection of Nick Lidstrom for the Detroit Red Wings was a bit of a surprise as he is not the first player most people would think of. HOWEVER, when looking at his consistency night after night, durability, playoff minutes per game, and his mind for the game, it's no wonder he was the one player who became the franchise's rock solid platform for success. I had said to myself it was going to be a sad day in Detroit when Nick retired. Sure enough, once he and Nick Kronwall retired, we Red Wings fans had it rough.

Alfredsson is the best Senator of all time. Guy is in the Hall of Fame!

Ron hextall was the first goalie with two nhl goals .as a kid I remember both games .he actually shot both his goals..the second being in the playoffs

First of all, I'd put Yzerman before Lidstrom. Secondly and more importantly, Wayne Gretzky wore #99 because Howe wore #9. Howe is called Mr. Hockey for crying out loud. Also, should probably have specified that a player will only be picked once in the list. Because, y'know, LA, St. Louis, NYR ...

Hawerchuk deserves to be the Jets pick, but I still remember when Selanne potted 76 in his rookie season. Go Jets!

Gordie Howe finished top 5 in scoring 20 for 20 consecutive seasons

I’m sorry, but it’s already bad enough when you say Lidstrom is above Howe, but to say he is CLEARLY the best is insane. Nick Lidstrom was amazing, and is at the minimum top 3 Red Wing all time, but his battle is with Yzerman for #2 because Gordie Howe is that guy and probably always will be.

To make a list like this leaving out Richard and Howe, I wouldn’t believe it.

Bro is the type of guy to put Eric Staal in front of Rod Brind’ Amour

Crazy that the last 2 generational guys went to the 2 teams with the GOAT's McDavid and Crosby to Gretzky and Lemieux

Gordie Howe not picked? Mr Hockey? Nice choice with Beliveau though... He was a true gentleman and an amazing hockey player. I would love to see a top 10 or 20 best players of all time, including goalies!

Bro. Not picking Ron Francis for Carolina is crazy

LMAO what!? So many issues with this list including wrong numbers but as a Wild fan I'll comment on that. Gaborik?! Koivu has hundreds more points than Gaborik and is the only player to have his jersey retired by the team as they recognize he was the best player in franchise history. Interestingly the best though, is Kirill Kaprizov and thats not modern day bias. His point rate out paces any other player by a significant amount. Also, Gaborik didnt even play half his career with the team. By that logic Gretzky should be on the top of all 4 teams he played for

I guess I’ll agree on the Sakic choice for the Avs but Fosberg was always my favourite!

Im glad you picked Hull for the Blues. I really wish he would have won us a Cup, but he ended up getting one with the Stars.

I'm a longtime Red Wings fan, and while I was a little bit surprised Howe wasn't named the best player of all time for the Wings....I ain't gonna take too much issue with anyone saying Lidstrom. Heck, I wouldn't even have too much of a beef with anyone saying it's Yzerman, either. But still, Howe was Mr. Hockey

This is “recent” bias regarding the Red Wings. While Nick Lidstrom maybe the greatest defenseman who ever played, Gordie Howe was the greatest Red Wing who ever played. Not only was he a great goal scorer in an era when goal scoring was down, he was an extremely tough, intimidating and effective two way player. Nobody dared messed with him. The few who did regretted it deeply. The late Lou Fontinato ( RIP), could attest to the extraordinary strength that Gordie possesed, after a tussle with him in 1959. Gordie did not look for fights, but he did make those who took cheap shots at his teammates pay the price. He also was a great skater and passer. His long loping strides made him look much slower than he actually was. Anyone that played against him will agree with that. He also possesed one of the hardest wrist shots in the game. This is a tough call for me, as I am at the age where saw much more of Nick than I did of Gordie. But you missed this one guys. P. S. Gordie played on Stanley cup winners in 1950, 1952, 1954 and 1955. He played on runner ups 4 times in the 60’s.

Dude…. Not picking Alfie is sacrilegious. Blasphemy.

mr. howe and mr. yzerman would like a word with you. also, nick lidstrom's surname doesn't have an n in it.

brodeur is not the only goalie to record 2 goals.. ron hextal did it as well

Bossy was definitely the best ever pure goal scorer - .76 goals per game is just ridiculous

Really thought Bure would of put in the Canucks spot so Jagr could be put in Panthers spot. Also really shocked not to see Scott Niedermayer on this list for either NJ or Anaheim.

Jean Beliveau was the best center in '60's. Stan Mikita was great and put up stunning numbers but big Jean Beliveau controlled the game.

Cool video, but seems like the Coyotes got two cracks at it, considering the current Jets/Thrashers were ignored.

A lot of people consider Gordie Howe the greatest player of all time. Even Wayne Gretzky considers Howe the greatest of all time. But according to this video, Howe wasn’t even the best player on his own team. Classic

Nice job

I can tell you love Joe Thornton you spent more time talking about him than any other player in this video 😅

GORDIE HOWE>lidstrom (and it's not even CLOSE my friend)

Selanne scoring 76 goals as a rookie is still one of the greatest records in NHL history

do you think you can do the same with OHL teams plz

I started watching, giving it a chance, but still wondering how many flaws there would be; it took until the 2nd player, haha: Winnipeg / Arizona, and you don't pick Dale Hawerchuck? Shameless... But let's continue! Buffalo ... (here's an argument that could come up with several of your picks - where does 'longevity' factor into the equation?) Hasek was phenomenal, but for a pretty short time period. My pick would be Perrault, who I realize you gave love to, but, considering longevity, he has to be the man. Honorable mentions: Pat Lafontaine - pure skill?: Alexander Mogilny! Calgary? That's a tough one. I'll accept your choice, but, Al MacInnis played there... not to mention all the other players you mentioned, AND more... Okay, though. Chicago is a close one too... I'll accept Makita BASED on longevity (but, wait, that DIDN'T count for Perrault in Buffalo? See...??), but, Bobby Hull? Had he not bolted to The WHA, where he scored ANOTHER 5,000 points!, he could still be considered the best. And what about Denis Savard? PURE SKILL WISE, he was arguably the best Hawk ever. But Hull may have been the most feared (skill wise) player of his generation (the 1960's) Colorado: I instinctively knew it was going to be Sakic, but, if you're talking "franchise" (and you even mentioned Sakic played his entire career for one franchise, and started in Quebec - so, are these FRANCHISE players, ALL TIME, or not?) then the answer is Peter Stastny, period. (And that's not taking ANYTHING away from Sakic, who was one of the greatest players in league history!) Detroit: Can't even bother to respond to that pick... ugh. Seriously? A little history lesson needed here. Florida: Longevity? Again, all over the place here... You argue for some players DUE to their longevity (like Lidstrom) and then take a guy that PURE SKILL WISE, yes, was the "best" player to ever play for the team (and he'll be mentioned TWICE, I assume, as he would even more so take that honor home for The Vancouver Canucks!)... But, come on; for a generally terrible franchise, Luongo has to be the winner here, balancing longevity and skill. Montreal ... ????? Okay, I mean, it's really a "pick 'em" situation here... So many possibilities. I can't say Beliveau is wrong, but... I wouldn't pick him. Maybe I'd argue for Ken Dryden. Rangers? No... NO... NO NO NO NO NO! Oh, my... NO! SOOO many other players; hard to say which one of them (all the 'original six' are difficult, of course). But anyway... On it could go... but finally, the Winnipeg franchise is Atlanta, where Kovalchuck would be the best player ever... NOT The Jets of Hawerchuck, who are Arizona now. Cheers... Glad you picked Dionne over Gretzky for LA, anyway! 🥰

There is a plethora of correct affirmation about Howe.But also worth mention,that Alfredsson is far above karlsson. 21:55

I'm not a Red Wings fan. But Lidstrom is no higher than 3rd best all time. How can anyone not say Gordie Howe is the best? Followed by Yzerman.

Huh? Gordie Howe gets passed over?

Hawerchuk was never a member of the Jets you are referring to.

All these hall of fame legends and Jared McCann lol

I remember seeing Sweden play Canada and Joe Sakic singelhanded won it for Canada he just scored for fun it seemed (i think he got like 4 in a 7-4 win).

Tough choice for some teams. I can pick like half a dozen guys from the Bruins that you could argue one way or another. Esposito, Orr, Bourque, Bergeron, Neely, etc.

Glad goaltenders were included in this list

No disrespect to St. Louis, but Stamkos is 1 of 47 players to ever score 500 goals.

Gretzky by far - he changed the way the game is played - he has the record for records

Lidström was a stud, no question, but I have Yzerman and Howe ahead of him... MR. HOCKEY would have been the right choise...

Bure was fun to watch. He was just this fast little bundle of electricity that would fly up and down the ice making things happen. Probably my favorite Russian after Ovi. Federov is up there too. PS: look, i like Nick Lidstrom and hes an elite player, a legend. But i cant put him over Howe as the best Red Wing ever. Howe is a brand. Everyone who watches hockey still knows who Gordie Howe is. Hes the most famous Red Wing of all time.

Best NHL Player For Every Team: Boston Bruins: Bobby Orr Edmonton Oilers: Wayne Gretzky Pittsburgh Penguins: Sidney Crosby San Jose Sharks: Joe Thornton Tampa Bay Lightning: Steven Stamkos

I’m laughing. Each clip you showed of Henrik Sedin was of his brother, Daniel Sedin. Henrik was number 33, and Daniel was 22.

Well, got 2 right, Gretzky & Lemieux.

I'm from Boston. So take this as a serious statement, when I say this about a Habs player: Le Gros Bil c'est magnifique.

I get wanting to give a nod to other great players other than the top one, but the idea that anyone else in Caps history comes close to it not being Ovechkin is crazy. I'd also have Nick Backstrom solidly the 2nd best player in team history, as well.

Canucks start at 31:05

Not picking Gordie Howe as the greatest Red Wing is the reason why millenials shouldn't make lists.

the winnipeg jets team he used isnt the right jets team....the old jets moved to arizona so he did the coyotes twice essentially but didnt include the thrashers/jets at all

I could credit a pick of Lidstrom over Howe to recency bias, but for the Whalers/Canes, hands down that's got to be Ron Francis. That's not even a contest.

My swedish ears hurts. it's LiDström not Lindström. How hard can it be?

I think you dropped the ball, or maybe dropped the puck, with that Lidstrom call. I'm a die hard Bruins fan that doesn't focus on much else, but even I can tell you Gordie Howe should unquestionably occupy that spot.

No question Pavel Bure was the greatest Canuck of all time. He led them to the final in 1994 and amazing goal scoring and one of the most exciting players not only in Canuck history but in league history. His career was hurt by knee injuries or he could have done so much more.

It must be Maurice Richard for MTL. Even today montrealers consider him the greatest and most important player in NHL history

Did anybody else notice that when Mike bossy stoped how high the snow went🗿

I feel like longevity for one particular team factored in too strongly in this list....Howe, Messier, Kurri, Roy...the list goes on forever.

That’s pronounced LIDstrom, my friend. There’s no N in his last name

I believe honorable mention should go to Bryan Trottier., the proud owner of Stanley Cups, 4 of them as a member of The New York Islanders, 2 more as a member of the Pittsburgh 🐧, and 1 more as an Assistant Coach of The Colorado Avalanche. He also won The Calder Trophy, The Ross Trophy, The Hart Trophy, The Conn Smythe Trophy, The Frank Selke Trophy, and The King Clancy, and He's also a member of THE NHL HALL OF FAME, and he's The most decorated Indigenous athletes of ALL TIME. Also, fot this alone you could've made this a three way tie between BOSS, TROTS, AND DENIS POTVIN.

I am sorry but in a draft nobody would pick Lidstrom over Yzerman or Howe. Same thing with Beliveau. Rocket and Lafleur way before.

First off no chapter for the AVs... rude lol. Gotta say though I would've picked Roy over Sakic. Don't get me wrong Sakic was and is still amazing. His contributions to the team and the city of Denver are amazing. But were talking about the greatest player on our team. Patrick Roy literally redefined how the position is played. Basically every goalie today has modeled their game after him. If you google greatest goalie of all time his name comes up. Hell you could argue Roy should be listed for the Canadiens too lol

“Martian brodeur was the only goalie to score two nhl goals” Ron hextall with three goals: what the fuck am I to you

Marc Andre Fleury for the Golden Knight after how they did him dirty? Also where Gordie Howe? This has to be a troll list

Leech over Messier is a HOT take

Wayne Gretzky only said “I'm always No. 2 to Gordie Howe for my dad. And I'm OK with that." but yeah, Lidstrom is the best Red Wing because he played defense and defense is hard.

I’m a lifelong Wings fan. I grew in the 2000s, when the Wings were the best franchise in the league. I was 5 years old when I got into hockey, so #5 became my favorite player for that reason. He still is my all time favorite player. He’s the 2nd greatest defenseman in the history of the game. I could make an argument he’s the second greatest Red Wing ever. Even ahead of Yzerman, but to put him ahead of Howe is absurd.

What ?? Tampa stamkos over 500 goals over 1000 games played this guys crazy

I would have put Lafleur before Beliveau for Montréal and Howe before Lidstrom for Detroit, but Lidstrom was phenomal. He deserve to be in the conversation

Babcock screwed Modano out of his 1,500th game.

Why is Hawerchuk the greatest for a franchise that he never played for? Why did i think Connor Bedard would somehow be the greatest Blackhawk? Pretty sure Gretzky only has 15 seasons over 100 points.

Putting Henrik ahead of Bure is just silly

I wonder if anyone can do the best NHL players who are forgotten. I'm not talking about someone like Brad Park or Rod Gilbert who do get some recognition but for some reason Harry Howell or Red Berenson or Cyclone Taylor

Personally, I would rank Mark Messier high on this list somewhere. He won the most Stanley Cups with 2 separate teams. If he did not do it himself, he had others do it. I would put him high on any fantasy team that I would create.

I don't care who did this list... Gordie Howe will always be the franchise of the Detroit Red Wings... and arguably the most complete hockey player ever... could do it all very well... dominated the sport and literally put fear in the hearts of opponents... whether by scoring or just being mean & physical. And he played in an era where the game was much more brutal and nasty. Anyway this is just one person's opinion and doesn't speak for everyone.

I'd have to put Mats Sundin, Salming and Sittler, ALL ahead of Keon...

You should make a list of pre 1980 teams - and post 1980 teams… very different hockey at that time… less than 10 teams, etc.

Like many, I expected Howe on the Red Wings list...but the argument for Lidstrom is quite strong, too. Ditto for Maurice Richard vs Jean Beliveau.

Dont know why everyone gets this wrong. Bret Hull has the most points by a US born player. With 1391. And this is coming from a lifelong Northstars fan, who cried, as a kid, when they took my team and idol (Modano) away! (And is STILL EXTREMELY bitter about this as i stand here typing this in my Northstars sweatshirt!)

Colorado: Patrick Roy, Detroit: Howe and Yzerman rank higher, Montreal: Rocket Richard or Ken Dryden

I was thinking Jokinen for Florida. Bure was probably the best but he played there for like 3 seasons. For me Jokinen is synonymous with the Panthers and had a lasting impact. However, I'd probably say that their greatest player is one of the current players such as Ekblad or Barkov

Loved Marty Brodeur. Favorite goalie all time. I will say i think Scott Stevens could make a case as well as the best New Jersey Devil but im not going to to argue with Marty.

Canes should be Ron Francis Blue Jackets Bobrovsky Also Hawerchuk should count for Coyotes, not Jets

Messier won 4 cups with Gretzky on Edmonton and one more after Gretzky left. He went on to lead the Rangers to a cup when he left Edmonton. Meanwhile Gretzky won nothing after leaving that powerhouse Oiler team

Stan Makita also invented the curve on a hockey stick