The best comment I saw on their goodbye video was "I just paid $300 for groceries. Get bent." It just summed the whole thing up

"We're quitting UKposts" ¡LeTs TaLk AbOuT mOnEy!

This is also a blatant slap in the face to their international viewers as well, What is $6 in USD is a whole lot more in some other countries.

Ironic how they left Buzzfeed because they’re a shitty company only to be shitty themselves.

If it won't feed me, house me, clothe me, or drive me to work, I find it difficult to convince myself to pay for it. Things are rough out there. "Oh it's only $5 a month--" Yeah but there's like ten of you doing that. I might be willing to pay $15 a month to get access to everyone's everything, but $5 per creator is outside my budget. There's gonna have to be some cuts made.

$5.99 per month is not “affordable to everyone” 🤦‍♂️

1) unsubbed from watcher because i dont like when people spit in my face 2) subbed to you because you're a duck and i like those

I paid $10 every month to their patreon, not for extra content, but bc I wanted to support them. I changed careers suddenly and lost half of my income and still kept supporting them. Just to be told that it's not enough. Idk if I even want to watch their stuff now bc I don't want to feel like just a number to them. I cancelled it immediately after I saw the first vid

I was hoping one of them was gonna play the ukelele

They say they would've done it ad free. But I highly doubt it would be truly ad free. They would totally double dip if someone offered the opportunity.

One of their shows is them eating super expensive food. And asking for money because you want to travel to all kinds of places and asking as if it is a necessity??? Aightttt

My impression about this is we left cable for the internet. I left TV for UKpostsrs. I don’t want UKpostsrs to be TV. Big difference.

Mfs thought they were hot shit like Dropout *3 ex Buzzfeed employees thought they were as relevant AS COLLEGE HUMOR.*

people say they apologised but the mask fell off lol, the gross mismanagement of their funds still upsets me. and they didn't address that in the apology either. they act like they MUST have 25 employees and a large office space in a socmed/content creation company where most can work remotely, like that's the bare minimum. making rash decisions like these instead of just downsizing makes you put all 25 of these employees' livelihoods in jeopardy, instead of just firing a few to downsize. my wording may sound harsh, but it is something that needed to be said.

3:00 - Oh, my god. The “emotional piano music.” Kill me, now.

The craziest part of this is them thinking that their videos/production are TV show quality, a blue puppet show, sitting around a campfire talking, hunting "ghosts" with a flashlight and eating caviar are not TV ideas. They ARE fun and the videos ARE good but, only for UKposts, their content is still very much UKposts content and there's still so much work, planning and brainstorming to do for their content to deserve a streaming platform. I don't even agree that a one-month time gap per video is good for them, maybe a couple weeks but no one loves a UKposts video that much to wait months for one of them, they really just dug their grave and jumped right in which sucks bc I love Shane and Ryan but this whole thing shows where their real priorities lie.

Rooster Teeth literally just tried to do the same thing recently. You notice how they're now officially going out of business???

This is what happens when you don't factor in the qualitative aspect of your data. They probably went "Ooh, we've got 12M views per month, if we can just funnel 0.25% of that we'll get double the money we're currently getting!" without any consideration of age, purchasing power and/or any other characteristics of their demographic. Plus, this would've already been a bold and risky move a few years ago, nevermind nowadays, when you can kick a stone and a dozen new streaming platforms will come crawling from under it.

Omg the corporate sad-ish piano in the background that switches up to happy corporate music when they introduce Watcher. It's like an SNL skit, drives me up the walls.

They appear to have had a silent, seething resentment for having to have their “television caliber quality” content on this lowly platform… imagine how they are going to resent their subscribers for “making” them change their plans and stay here, when their streaming site inevitably fails.

I love how they're charging streaming service prices for access to just their content. This feels like something EA would do. Its insane. It's the first time I heard about these guys too

4:17 Nothing says "television caliber content" like showing up to work dressed like you just left a bachelor party at Hooters.

Calling this a “goodbye to UKposts” feels like an ultimatum…

4:34 "I hope you guys follow us one more time." We won't. But good luck to you fam. 👋🏿

The apology they put out was more of a "Wow we got called out, you guys are so right. We're sorry. So now we'll still put it on our platform, but youtube later." Let's see how that goes down

They're apologies sound so fake. Like literally robotic.

"We're going to the UK, and we're going to Scotland" is like saying "We're going to the USA and we're going to Kansas". So they're happy to announce they'll go "international" to one other country, and we have to pay money for that? How dellusional can you be?

I saw people praising the “apology” video, and I do think they deserve a second chance, but they were backed into a corner, it was do this or go down on the ship they sank themselves. They shouldn’t be praised for coming up with a compromise on something that should never have made it this far in the first place. Their words, choices, and actions were extremely damaging and hurtful, only time will tell if this is actually an apology or just a reaction disguised as one to salvage what they can. They deserve a chance but forgiveness is earned and they certainly do not deserve huge praise for doing what literally everyone told them they needed to do to not lose most of their fan base.

They literally just apologized 💀 Edit: I still don't forgive them

Bro, really wanted to still make money after quitting UKposts the amount of greed

If I had a nickel for every time 3 former BuzzFeed employees sat on a couch and discussed a controversy, I'd have two nickels.

This is the biggest slap in the face to their *thousands and thousands* of Patreon members, who they don't even mention (as far as I know), and were already paying them in thanks for their content but now must pay $6 to get nothing

They did it because they're arrogant enough to think they're special and people would pay that much to see Buzzfeed content, stuff that wasn't exactly amazing when free. Just get a patreon if you honestly think people will pay money to see your content, this isn't complicated and I don't even do all that stuff.

The worst business decision since THE FINE BROS.

Did they ever even explain why being paid by way of advertisement was a problem in the first place?... Are they too young to even have seen an actual TV?

3 days ago "hey F U we want more money" and now today "hey we F'd up don't leave us we still want your money" LOL

Watcher: *Adds a Paywall to their UKposts channel.* EA: Look what their doing to imitate a fraction of our power.

That ending to the announcement video with the awkward smarmy chuckle and shrug told me everything I need to know about these people. Now they're just putting out fires..and people are desperate to forgive them unfortunately

Absolutely spot on, my dude. I was a big fan of these guys - until Friday. Tone deaf and brain dead. Lost every ounce of goodwill I had for them

It's so funny seeing people say 'oh well they apologized.' They don't feel bad lol. They're just back peddling because nobody moved to their new service and they don't want to lose money. It's like buying the next NBA 2k game because 2k apologized for making the last one a pay 2 win nightmare. I'm sure that doesn't suggest anything about how future products are going to be.

The damage was done, the respect lost. I'm not as forgiving as the other better people.

Many people said this before me, but most of the fans didn't start watching because of the high-quality content and TV like episodes. They joined because they liked Shane and Ryan's dynamic in Buzzfeed Unsolved and wanted to continue watching them. Thats why I personally watched Watcher. If they cut costs and the quality got lower, that'd be perfectly fine. But they decided to ostracize so many of their fans by initially putting their future content behind a paywall. And while they quickly went back on that decision, it showed they value revenue more than their fanbase. It's extremely disappointing to see. Sorry for the ramble lol, had to get out my thoughts somewhere

Steven Lim saluting and sighing is the most cringe thing I've seen in a while. These lames used to be cool. I feel like theyre my friends trying to apologize after something they did, but i don't even wanna look at them anymore.

Try not to ruin your career challenge (Impossible)

Guy spent HOW MUCH on a wedding?! Nah, I'm eloping.

I took a quick look at their most recent videos and the production for those shows ( which to my understanding is what they are popular for) does not look like it should cost much or require 25 people on staff.

Haven’t finished your video, but this was my take: I didn’t buy their “apology” video. They said a lot of the right things, and reversed what they were gonna do the best they could. BUT, they still made lame excuses, tried to guilt trip, and the logic behind them having a private streaming service was so idiotic. It was all about their egos, and greed.

“We messed up” Not another one of these videos.

imagine being here for a cash grab then having to refund everyone

I dont know if its greed so much as them being monumentally bad with money, not wanting to downscale their production cause they wanna be pretend TV, and not wanting to fire their buddies that are so bad at their jobs they still have to hire freelancers to help.

Also, these idiots posted about how they hired two more former buzzfeed dudes TWO DAYS before announcing that they’re soooooo broke 😂 Steven Lim will be the downfall of watcher.

"We messed up." Ah nah really? I couldn't tell.

Thank you for this perspective.. It's harsh but probably true... I found them pretty recently and have been using their videos to fall asleep due to PTSD nightmares. Their goofy energy, wholesome friendship, and general good vibes have quickly made them into comfort content and it helps when I wake up freaking out. Needless to say, in a short time, I've become very fond of them and their content and it really sucked that all of this went down.

THANK YOU! Their apology video really rubbed me the wrong way and just everyone seems to be satisfied with it but, like you said, should we really be? They've shown their true colours, they haven't actually learned anything from the situation either, they're going to be losing even more money since people will opt to wait for the episodes to be released for free on youtube after a month of it being released on their streaming service like... This was a rough apology video. They did say sorry, they did address and tell the audience that they are heard but that doesn't fixed the situation at all. They are all still mismanaging their money with poor business decisions and they really thought/think they can rectify this by making their fans pay for a service like... Bruh, hire a financial advisor, because paying for 25+ staff members that you don't need, creating videos that don't need the budget they're given (cough cough, Stephen and his whole going around the world eating fancy food with friends) and just them being out of touch with the state of the world in general. They're too used to their over-indulgent lifestyles that they have that they think they need more funds than they actually do, like how out of touch do you need to be? And don't get me started on them saying they're not sponsor friendly like they're arguably one of the most sponsor friendly channels out there, they get 800k-1m views on their paranormal videos and those range from 30-50mins for ads I just can't fathom how horrible they all are with money. Throw in their live shows and merch... I don't understand how they think they're still in the red I'm absolutely perplexed

UKpostsr apology videos does something to me i can't describe honestly ick is an understatement... there's something about it that's so manipulative i hate how they emphasis on "YOU" to make us feel like we're their main priority

The only time adding payments work for big channels is when it's expanding content. The same normal free stuff on UKposts and then "hey we're also gonna do extra things over here if you want to pay for it" just look at channels like GMM for a working model. Multiple channels + a tiered membership website where you can pay for more. Or a channel like Renaissance Periodization, tons of free content and their members only videos are for uncensored and extended versions so they don't have to bleep out the swear words. Give people options to pay you more and some might do it, force people to subscribe to see you at all and you're suddenly being compared to other services that offer better value.

I remember watching these guys eating $1-$1000 food for years when I was like, 14. Guess they're trying to make some of that money back.........

Honestly I would've given them the benefit of the doubt if one of them didn't spend 55,000 ON A VENUE

Honestly I feel like this wouldn't be a problem if the streaming service was just for additional exclusive content that was not on their regular UKposts channel. The problem is that they want people to pay for essentially all of their content, which is no different than before except it is behind a paywall.

They literally just apologizing and thought we would forget 💀

Hold up, wouldn't they do early content on their own Patreon already? So at thr end of the day they're double dipping with Watcher?

Thank you, August, for expressing what I was thinking. The amount of insincerity in these three is frightening. And I considered myself a fan. Of their content, I still am, but not the greed. They have lost touch with reality.

If I still haven't paid the extra 3 dollars a month to Amazon, I'm sure not paying 6 dollars for one youtube channel.

On behalf of millennials, I deeply apologize for the most insufferable of my generation. I could never stand these guys 🙄

55k on a wedding VENUE when most of their viewers don’t make that in a year

At this point I'd rather watch channels talking about their downfall than their actual videos. I was a fan of them since before Shane, but with how greedy they are I'm not going to engage with their content after their attempt at an apology. It's just honeyed words to try and get *some* support back, they're not actually sorry.

The background orchestra music made it look like a parody lol

Does anyone else miss waddles the endcard duck?

i’m 10 seconds into the video and wtf are those prices??

I struggled to find comments like the ones here on their apology video. Ppl were so eager to forgive and forget... So naive

these guys used to be my faves... and now idk man I'm struggling with this situation rn

I loved these guys they quite literally were my childhood and to see them destroy themselves for greed is just really sad

We “overlooked” how not doing free videos would affect our audience. And the Patreon. They already monetized their audience

I pay $20 a month for UKposts premium No adds can watch whatever I want FREE MOIVES!!! And UKposts red exclusives (which I really don’t watch anymore) but yeah rather that

Y’all remember how sad it was when matpat passed the theory channels off, these guys were soulless as they said they were leaving UKposts

so happy I'm not the only one who thinks this apology isn't genuine. even the way they were talking sounded so scripted. even charlie thinks it's a pretty good apology. I'm just glad I was never invested in them to begin with, I'm just here to watch the chaos unfold,

Dude in the red is like a B-Class Rhett before Rhett went all lumber jack Sasquatch hunter.

"Steven, talk about money." Sums these scums perfectly. It's so sad to me that nowadays viewers are just paychecks to UKpostsrs (not all youtubers have this mindset.) But if this is your last goodbye, at least make it sincere.. And not just "Lets talk about money.."

bullying works!

“ *most cheeseburgers aren’t free, most apps…are.* “ -a freaking duck Edit-OMG THANK YOU! This is the most likes I’ve ever gotten! 35 is insane!

If they were that desperate for money why didn’t they just promote their Patreon more??? Or thin production costs??? Literally how does it take 25 employees to maintain their channel???

As the wise philosopher Tiger King once said "i am never going to financially recover from this"

They bit off more what they can chew

They are not stuggling at all. They just got greedy and wanted more money. If I were that popular on youtube, I would have never done this. Also, I never heard about this channel until yesterday 😕.

It's the entitlement that really bothered me. These guys wanted a trust fund.

Tbh ive seen pretty much every episode of their shows and I was pretty hurt/devastated that not only were they gonna paywall but also remove all their shows from UKposts. I like to think this was just a very ill informed decision. But with how down to earth they always were I can't help but feel like they lost all their relatability after this cash grab :(

I loved this group, but why wouldnt they just set a membership with youtube where people can become a member with them..? Where their content can still be free but members could send money/gifts or however memberships do it. They should just deal with the advertisements and brand partnering. Edit: I commented this in the beginning before he said rest lol

A scripted apology is never a real apology.

It amazes me that August doesn’t know about their patreon. They have 12000 backers on there. They’re making a little over $250k gross.

Honestly they ruined their reputation for me. I won't watch them again. There are better channels to watch.

I’m watching this again the next day and I’m now just realizing that in their goodbye they never say anything like “we are so happy to have given our fans so much content.” it was only just “we are so happy our fans have given US so much.” Like really…

UKposts charges $12 for ad free access to everyone's content and to UKposts Music, and most people aren't even willing to pay that. How the hell did these guys seriously think people would pay $6 for ad free access to just theirs!!!

From Beloved Channel Straight Into The Trash Can.......

there is no creator i like enough to pay money for content. if its a hoodie or something tangible i can use, i can justify it but just paying money every month for the promise of content? i just would feel so guilty to myself for being frivolous with money

The complete opposite of Rhett and Link selling Smosh to Anthony and Ian for $1. Greedy move. UKposts Red failed miserably, did you hear? 😅

I saw this come up on my recommended, I’d never heard of the watchers and just assumed it was another UKposts channel leaving after a long time or something. Then all of a sudden I saw a bunch of videos show up talking about the video, didn’t watch them but when this vid came up I knew shit was serious

All I hear is we got more employees and we want to travel. Who needs that many employees. I watch a UKposts who makes videos in the same room for years with very little edits.

So many other UKpostsrs are like oh they apologized, all good then! And I’m glad you’re still giving it to them. Shane’s wife was supporting it the day before they “apologized”, arguing with fans and whining that they need a survivable income (how very let them eat cake of her). The only reason they’re back is because they didn’t get enough subscribers on their mid ass platform, that’s why they waited all weekend hoping it would go up. They have a magic number and when they hit it they’ll abandon their fans again, they admitted it’s their goal. They really think their super original ghost hunting, true crime and eating videos are groundbreaking enough for TV. You can take the Ghoul Boys outta BuzzFeed but can’t take the BuzzFeed out of the Ghoul Boys 😔

Edit: They apologized and offered refunds, they also offered free subscriptions to their patreon members.

Ive followed the ghoul boys since their second season of bun. I love their stuff. I love their chemistry. None of their stuff needs 25 people to manage. They have patreon, youtube ads, merch. All they had to do was keep it up and they keep printing money.