The History of the Big 12 Conference: College Sports' Flyover Country

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10 місяців тому

Next week, the Big 12 conference will be adding four new colleges to their ranks: Brigham Young, Cincinnati, Houston, and Central Florida. These additions were spurred by the impending exits of the Universities of Oklahoma and Texas, each headed for the SEC. Realignment and moving parts have long plagued the Big 12, who has received a majority of realignment press since realignment really became a thing of interest in the early 90s. Each of their largest brands has left the conference for larger media contracts in conferences like the Big Ten or SEC, but the Big 12 is still here.
Despite the conference having been organized officially in 1996, the Big 12 itself has a long and storied history that stretches far further than a football game between Texas Tech and Kansas State. The Big 8, and the MVIAA before it, was a very strong athletic conference that dared to create titans in the cornfields of Oklahoma, Nebraska, Iowa, and Kansas. And Colorado, if you count Boulder as farm country (which you shouldn't).
But college sports are driven by college football, which means NCAA realignment is driven by college football.
So as the central-midwestern roots of the Big 12 melt into the Appalachians, the Atlantic, the Ohio River, and the Great Salt Lake, take a moment to remember what the conference used to be. This video intends to do just that.

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@russellglass6886
@russellglass6886 9 місяців тому
It’s nit picky but Louisville is in the eastern time zone too lol. Great vid tho!
@sertank735
@sertank735 9 місяців тому
Exactly.
@bradparnell614
@bradparnell614 6 місяців тому
It's not nit picky in the least.
@benjackson4101
@benjackson4101 10 місяців тому
College football history is so interesting and over looked by the casual fan
@Montfortracing
@Montfortracing 10 місяців тому
I absolutely agree
@stout8807
@stout8807 7 місяців тому
The casual fans are breaking down the traditions that make it interesting. The traditions, rivalries, and the regions.
@jonathangasana
@jonathangasana 4 місяці тому
It truly is… I’ve been diving deeper into it lately.
@cedricbelleblazerfan
@cedricbelleblazerfan 10 місяців тому
This is a dope take off history of football. Doing this for all conferences would be dope.
@captainspartan04
@captainspartan04 9 місяців тому
Exactly what I was about to comment lol
@chriswebster24
@chriswebster24 9 місяців тому
I would’ve described it as sick, but dope also works, I reckon. I’ll just say it’s dope sick.
@powell4661
@powell4661 3 місяці тому
There is one for the ACC
@lukeontheplains
@lukeontheplains 9 місяців тому
I'm not about to redo this entire video lol. Welcome back, Colorado. We left the light on for you.
@Igolnik54
@Igolnik54 9 місяців тому
Fucking love it, also not confirmed news but heavy rumored, Washington and Oregon are in talks with Brett Yormark. Brett also wants 16 teams in total so one of the 4 corners that’s not Utah will also probably join
@captainspartan04
@captainspartan04 8 місяців тому
And now the other 4 corners schools to join lol
@foodlord1
@foodlord1 8 місяців тому
Redo it to fix the parts where the voice track crackles. Maybe wait until the rest of this realignment season is over...
@JTMont21
@JTMont21 10 місяців тому
This was a great video. This was one of the best conferences in the nation in the 2000s. I always think how good they could have been if you had the original 12 plus TCU & Arkansas.
@christophershannon8734
@christophershannon8734 10 місяців тому
Louisville and Arkansas. Colorado Nebraska Iowa Missouri Kansas Kansas State Louisville Arkansas Oklahoma State Oklahoma Texas A&M Texas That's my BIG 12. I don't like more than 2 Universities from a state. Baylor and Texas Tech were just leeches on the Texas' schools. Louisville should've been added in 2011. Not WVU or TCU.
@jasonsims2407
@jasonsims2407 8 місяців тому
Perception is not necessarily reality.
@ianstewart5791
@ianstewart5791 8 місяців тому
Watching this after all the recent realignment news. The big 12s story is so powerful and I’m very glad that the conference seems stable for the first time in years! I only hope that we can get a couple of the great rivalries back into the conference in the future.
@davidlemons5650
@davidlemons5650 9 місяців тому
8 days ago? The Big 12 has not faded away! I still very much like the video.
@exchequer11
@exchequer11 10 місяців тому
I had that Big 8 Hardee's basketball!
@Humbucker75
@Humbucker75 9 місяців тому
This is awesome!!! Love the history of these conferences and would love to see more. Great work.
@WVUer21
@WVUer21 9 місяців тому
As a WVU alum and fan, it's surreal to be doing this again. However, this is the first time there's a sense of optimism rather than dread. It'd be splendid to witness Pitt AND Louisville come groveling back.
@dacokc
@dacokc 6 місяців тому
Eh... they don't need to grovel... If Pitt and Louisville wanted in the Big12 we should welcome them with open arms. Big12 should have brought in Louisville and Pitt (along with TCU) back when WVU was added to the conference.
@Skiller71Studios
@Skiller71Studios 9 місяців тому
This was such a fantastic video. Please make more college football videos - we really need more like this for CFB.
@Mrcharles.
@Mrcharles. 8 місяців тому
You wonder if this could happen with the mountain west and pac 12.
@jackdaddyslim3895
@jackdaddyslim3895 9 місяців тому
GREAT VIDEO. This is the Type Of Content I Have Been Needing In my Life.
@hb_13
@hb_13 9 місяців тому
Fantastic! More of this style 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@AEMT-ks4so
@AEMT-ks4so 9 місяців тому
You can thank UT and the Longhorn Network as to the reason for the fall of the Big 12, just like they had a heavy hand in the fall of the SWC Also A&M never had plans to move to the Pac-12. There is a long history of A&M trying to get to the SEC that goes back to the end of the SWC.
@patrickwilson1834
@patrickwilson1834 9 місяців тому
Agree 100%. Texas is the reason the big 12 fell
@davidlemons5650
@davidlemons5650 9 місяців тому
@patrickwilson1834 Except, the Big 12 will be just fine, maybe better without Texas.
@Mrcharles.
@Mrcharles. 8 місяців тому
@@davidlemons5650The big 12 went from being on thin ice to saving itself by gobbling up all of the pac 12 schools.
@patrickwilson1834
@patrickwilson1834 8 місяців тому
@@davidlemons5650 we will see and fine out. Ill give it 5 years
@christiancantu7652
@christiancantu7652 8 місяців тому
So Texas should have just said no to all that money? If any other school was in the position they’re taking it
@weebs2
@weebs2 9 місяців тому
This was really good, great job
@riversidepark4107
@riversidepark4107 9 місяців тому
Probably one of the best college football history videos on the site. We have so many great channels that cover other sports history well but cfb just seems to be lacking and never know why. Definitely make more
@kodyconley1267
@kodyconley1267 9 місяців тому
Firstly, great job and excellent execution. I know the world revolves around money but if OU and Texas had any type of leadership, they would’ve went to the Big XII and poached PAC-12 schools and added the four they did. I think trying to create the first “super conference “ of 20 schools would’ve been very successful. 20 schools broken up into divisions that make sense geographically. This not only helps travel but would also create long lasting rivalries moving forward. West: Oregon, Washington, BYU, Utah, Colorado South: Texas, Tech, TCU, Baylor, Houston North: OU, oSu, K-state, Kansas, Iowa State East: Cincinnati, UCF, WVU, Pitt, Louisville Everyone within the division plays each other and 7 conference non-divisional games (11 games) Divisional winners play (4 teams) and winners go to a conference championship (more like basketball). I find that to be entertaining and the rotation between playing out of division opponents keeps the games fresh and new for fans while playing division games would create some awesome rivalries. Unfortunately, it’s just the same old 💩 moving forward.
@voiceofreason2674
@voiceofreason2674 9 місяців тому
Well written, but assuming you're doing 12 game season, you're losing a lot with having only 1 non conference game. I think 9 conference games is the max you can do, cuz you gotta have at least 3 non-con games of 3 basic types. 1) Out of conference rivals (self explanatory why you need that one) 2) Marquis Matchups (when you're school is hot, other big schools are gonna come calling to schedule big time matchups) and 3) Cupcake Games (You can hate on cupcake games until your team is horrible and then you know how important it is for everybody involved to just not go winless, or for perennially horrible teams like Kansas or Vandy those magic years where you pull a few upsets you NEED those cupcake games as margin of error to get you into a bowl game. Last year's 3OT thriller Liberty Bowl would NOT happen if it werent for Tennessee Tech giving Kansas a win.
@jasonstott3001
@jasonstott3001 9 місяців тому
@@chandler2the point being they would be creating a powerful league that could rival the sec and end up making more possibly
@EtowahEdits
@EtowahEdits 9 місяців тому
This is great work! Would love to see more documentaries about CFB like this that aren’t so sensationalized. Thank you!!
@JK-bq3mw
@JK-bq3mw 9 місяців тому
one of the better vids on this site. please make all conferences and just great job!
@ayerox
@ayerox 9 місяців тому
You nailed it! Very well done.
@Gig484
@Gig484 10 місяців тому
Big 12 ✊🏻
@CamBoone
@CamBoone 7 місяців тому
Loving these conference deep dives!
@i_unknown2954
@i_unknown2954 7 місяців тому
Your videos are truly amazing. Keep up the stellar work!
@IceFlex92
@IceFlex92 9 місяців тому
Awesome video. Love how you used historic logos as time progressed
@natewatson6962
@natewatson6962 9 місяців тому
Great video. Really puts into perspective that there was never a huge period of time with NO realignment. We feel like everything is changing, but they’ve always been changing, but cfb never stopped being great. We’re gonna be ok 👍🏾.
@nathanporrata9274
@nathanporrata9274 9 місяців тому
I've been a huge Nebraska fan my whole life. I remember the Big 12 fondly but Texass ruined the conference. They treated it like a fiefdom and forced the conference to appeas them. We had to get out. I remember clearly the big fear was being left behind if the conference fell apart. Also, to not mention the 2009 Big 12 conference championship game where the refs pit a second back on the clock to give Texass the win, I think that game solidified anti Big 12 sentiment in the fanbase. It did for me at least
@adamg5193
@adamg5193 7 місяців тому
Hit the nail on the head. Worst thing the Big 8 did was assume Texas would stay as equals with everyone else. I'm glad Mizzou was able to get out, even if we have to take the most flack from old and new conferences
@powell4661
@powell4661 3 місяці тому
​@adamg5193 as UGA man, Missouri is always the game I worry about the most.
@Sloppyplane37
@Sloppyplane37 8 місяців тому
A great video, fun fact with New Mexico is they were invited to the big 12 along with BYU in 1997 but turned it downed to stay in the WAC that they founded. Big 12 has the name Big 14 trademarked still hence one of the reasons the big 10 never changed its name outside of branding
@lukeontheplains
@lukeontheplains 8 місяців тому
I knew about that! There was a newspaper article I sourced that stated that the only way the Big 12 would have expanded that early (they'd have by far been the largest "power" conference at the time) was if they had BYU and another school as big as BYU-or "two BYUs" as they put it. Reading between the lines here, it's clear they thought of UNM that way
@Sloppyplane37
@Sloppyplane37 8 місяців тому
@@lukeontheplainsIt’s a shame TCU was not as competitive in the mid to late 90s as they were in late 2000s, they almost certainly would have got in with BYU. Man that would have been a great conference with BYU as a west coast power coming off that title in the 80s.
@ad_stayfly7
@ad_stayfly7 6 місяців тому
Love these videos. Keep up the great content. Very informative and entertaining 💯
@charliepiazza7533
@charliepiazza7533 9 місяців тому
Brett will take this conference to another level
@ChunkyRagu24
@ChunkyRagu24 9 місяців тому
Great editing and commentary!
@tjbuzard5316
@tjbuzard5316 9 місяців тому
Super high quality and in depth, would love if you could do this for other conferences
@Kavanaugh_Kohls
@Kavanaugh_Kohls 9 місяців тому
This was great dude- keep it up.
@yasugi0153
@yasugi0153 2 місяці тому
Love these videos bro you have to keep pumping em out
@mistervancleef
@mistervancleef 10 місяців тому
Awesome job on this video!
@ChaseEagleback
@ChaseEagleback 10 місяців тому
Great work!
@rationaltexan
@rationaltexan 9 місяців тому
First time seeing this channel. Great vid
@Sagertooth1998
@Sagertooth1998 9 місяців тому
Great video
@ethanr2738
@ethanr2738 9 місяців тому
Great video. History is important.
@thetomyboy33
@thetomyboy33 9 місяців тому
Well done
@TheJForte
@TheJForte 9 місяців тому
Great documentary. I really enjoyed it.
@johnpace3469
@johnpace3469 9 місяців тому
I was so surprised you are such a small channel. Such great content. Love your content from deep in the SEC territory in Bama
@starbuckeye27
@starbuckeye27 9 місяців тому
This channel is so underrated
@23Kite
@23Kite 9 місяців тому
Well done! Great video
@jaylenbarnes2.079
@jaylenbarnes2.079 9 місяців тому
Awesome Video
@Vegas_Des
@Vegas_Des 9 місяців тому
Awesome video! I love college sports
@brody9345
@brody9345 7 місяців тому
Thank you for teaching me about Jack Trice. I had no idea!
@kadenmcclelland3338
@kadenmcclelland3338 9 місяців тому
dope video!!
@mrttd7850
@mrttd7850 9 місяців тому
Great video!
@dcomic1504
@dcomic1504 9 місяців тому
fantastic video
@alexdavis2198
@alexdavis2198 9 місяців тому
Please make this a series
@northdakotagamer
@northdakotagamer 9 місяців тому
I actually think the move for automatic bids for power 5 conference champs was a brilliant move by the NCAA from the perspective of trying to keep the power 5 alive. It gives a strong incentive for a school that’s currently not that big a fish in a big pond, like A&M or Florida, to find a home in one of the less competitive conference like the Big 12 or the ACC. Winning a weaker power 5 likely would prove more lucrative with the national televised game and higher enrollment that I assume without looking into it that winning national titles brings. It remains to be seen if it will play out like this of course
@squeeeps
@squeeeps 9 місяців тому
Great video! Next can you make one about the big East or what’s going on in the ACC
@AnthonyTV414
@AnthonyTV414 9 місяців тому
P.S. Great job! New Subscriber!
@djboss302
@djboss302 9 місяців тому
Here after Colorado announced their return
@justingoodman9352
@justingoodman9352 8 місяців тому
I had 3 of the Hardee's SEC basketballs! Thanks for that blast from the past... That was awesome. I'm 35 but I remember being about 10 to 12 years old playing with my Hardee's SEC basketballs.
@johnnyfucker
@johnnyfucker 9 місяців тому
danng bro you deserve more subs
@hamburglar83
@hamburglar83 9 місяців тому
NCAA should of done a better job to make things fair. As a kstate fan I will always love the wildcats even if they are playing ucf instead of Oklahoma. I miss Nebraska and Mizzou (relish that they are so mediocre now). As I live in big ten country. I get the opposite. My Illini playing ucla in basketball is going to be dope. But weird
@alexa4der632
@alexa4der632 9 місяців тому
Great video, I love the hateful 8
@ianprchlik3956
@ianprchlik3956 9 місяців тому
This is fantastic, would love to see it for the other conferences as realignment has killed much of the regionality of other conferences as well.
@MetalGod999
@MetalGod999 9 місяців тому
Hi, Lucas! First of all, congratulations on your excellent video of the History of the Big 12 Conference. As a sports history buff, I'm very impressed with the excellent job you've done. I was wondering if you're planning on doing a video about the Big East Conference, the one that existed from 1979-2013. Let me know if you are, because I'm curious on what your take is, including the part when Joe Paterno wanted to originally take Penn State to the Big East back in the day. Anyway, I look forward to watching future videos from you in the future. Keep up the good work!
@lukeontheplains
@lukeontheplains 9 місяців тому
I am actually planning on doing one on the Big East sometime soon! Such an interesting conference with a complicated history. I haven't started the research or scriptwriting process, so I wasn't aware of the JoePa comments. Very interesting stuff.
@richgerow3472
@richgerow3472 8 місяців тому
"Small victories may be the only thing the Big XII can win in the long run." That statement did not age well.
@lukeontheplains
@lukeontheplains 8 місяців тому
I know it seems like it in the moment, but I truly believe we're headed for a Power 2 and everybody else gets significantly pushed out of the TV market. In that lens, even adding the 4 corners and killing the PAC is a small victory. That may just be me being a pessimist though.
@juutziti9480
@juutziti9480 8 місяців тому
@@lukeontheplains Honestly quit fucking coping lilbro. It's gonna be a power 3. SEC B1G and BIG XII
@kennypowers1945
@kennypowers1945 6 місяців тому
@@lukeontheplainsno lol the big 12 is the biggest conference next year with the amount of teams they’ll have
@slimguardnii
@slimguardnii 9 місяців тому
This video is super well done. As an Oklahoma fan, I’m glad to be leaving but I grew up on Big 12 sports so there’s always love in my heart. Only thing I hate is that this upcoming season is the last for Bedlam
@hgawwjd
@hgawwjd 9 місяців тому
As someone whose about to be an incoming freshman to ou (there’s only ☝🏼⭕️ lol) I’m sad that the rivalry is ending, but I have a feeling that the game is gonna be electric especially with the edition of any of the other match-ups in other sports, but the rivalry still goes hard even if it’s one sided or people see a bigger competition with Texas.. 🤷‍♀️
@lukem5477
@lukem5477 8 місяців тому
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out to SEC mediocrity
@hjiv92
@hjiv92 8 місяців тому
@@lukem5477awwwwww is wittle baby gonna cry because his team wasn’t invited? 🥺🥺
@kennypowers1945
@kennypowers1945 6 місяців тому
Why would you be glad to be leaving lol? Your going to lose a ton in the sec. You were better off in the big 12 cause you could actually make a play off then
@kennypowers1945
@kennypowers1945 6 місяців тому
@@hjiv92why would anyone willingly want to go to the sec 🤣🤣 bama and Georgia own it. Even Ohio state would get swamped in the conference and OU is no where near them…. Get read for major mediocrity lol
@stork412
@stork412 7 місяців тому
Good stuff
@DW-es3iy
@DW-es3iy 7 місяців тому
Great video for sure, that music is damn loud tho 😂😂
@huntergriffin7153
@huntergriffin7153 8 місяців тому
With the news of Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah joining now, I think we are going to see a new super conference be made.
@atlsooner85
@atlsooner85 9 місяців тому
Big 12 in the late 90's and early 2000's was a bad ass conference, arguably the toughest one during that time, before the SEC blew up.
@mmshaun
@mmshaun 10 місяців тому
Great video, so interesting to continue to learn about the new conference. UCF has been a team with no clear path ahead of it and the odds stacked against it, but we continue to fight for every opportunity. We are a young program with a ferocious fanbase, a solid foundation, great recruitment potential, and a dream to be big. Although the future is unsure, I have great confidence in what's being built in the BIG 12
@TheBenzwanger
@TheBenzwanger 9 місяців тому
Ferocious is one way to describe it, annoying and unearned is another. I didn't mind any of the new schools coming in except UCF and it's strictly because of their fans. I've never seen a fanbase of a team become so cocky and so loud while at the same time accomplishing nothing and making up championships. I mean if Oklahoma counted every #1 poll ranking as a championship they would have 17 claimed national championships. But they only claim 7 that they won outright. OU could exaggerate their titles too but they actually have them, so they don't feel the need to fabricate anything. Y'all act like no one knows who you are.....but we do.....we just don't care.
@isaiaheaton2400
@isaiaheaton2400 9 місяців тому
Central Florida should not be playing Kansas, god I fucking hate this
@kurtisjohnson9530
@kurtisjohnson9530 10 місяців тому
Nice work. Thank you.
@coachblocker9682
@coachblocker9682 5 місяців тому
Waiting for the sec one 🔥
@spencerschumacher4299
@spencerschumacher4299 9 місяців тому
Great video but Louisville is not in the Central Time Zone, it's in the Eastern Time Zone. Technically, a part of the metro area in Indiana was in the Central Time Zone for half the year bc they did not recognize DST. However, that ended many years ago.
@kingsledge
@kingsledge 9 місяців тому
Great video! However, the timeline of Nebraskas exit is slightly off. The six teams flirting with the PAC10 was going on before NU left for the Big10. In fact, that flirtation was pretty much the final straw for NU athletics.
@nathanporrata9274
@nathanporrata9274 9 місяців тому
Yup. I remember that well. There were huge fears that the conference would fall apart and we'd be left behind. That along with the huge anti XII sentiment crested by the 2009 conference championship sealed the deal
@DrunkUncle1917
@DrunkUncle1917 9 місяців тому
Guess whos back
@noah3228
@noah3228 9 місяців тому
Cincinnati and Louisville are in the Eastern time zone. Great video though! Hope you do ones for the B1G and SEC
@kaseruiz2575
@kaseruiz2575 10 місяців тому
Love it
@drewshaver3
@drewshaver3 10 місяців тому
I still have that Big 8 basketball from Hardee's in our garage
@oldguysrock2170
@oldguysrock2170 9 місяців тому
I just wonder how many conferences has TCU played in? BYU has been an Independent, in Mountain West, and I think the WAC! But TCU has been conference shopping for decades.
@RolfWrenWalsh
@RolfWrenWalsh 9 місяців тому
I am an Iowa State fan and alum, and at heart a die hard Big 8 guy (despite only being turning 8 myself in October 1996). This was a great video, very well done, and even brought a slight tear to my eye reminiscing about the original Big XII, and by extension the Big 8. Despite the Big XII officially not considering the Big 8 part of it's history, as far as I am concerned, the Big 6/7/8 and XII are one and the same. I am SO pumped for the new Big XII as not only is it now the top basketball conference, but there will be so much parity in football now. Just based on recent the recent histories going back the last decade or so, ANYONE could win it in football any given year (Hell, even Kansas if Leipold sticks around long term). I really hope Colorado comes back so we can then have 4 of the 6 original North schools again (not mention Big 8 member), but despite the circumatances under which they left (they wanted to be like the popular kids and try to fit in with everyone else), I would even welcome Missouri back as well. Nebraska can rot in hell though. Fuck them. Big 8 Forever!! Edit: After seeing the part where Mizzou, KU, OU, and CU were looking elsewhere, I suppose it was simply a matter of time and fate that CU went to the Pac-12 (I still want them back though). It was no secret that Mizzou wanted to join the Big Ten a decade ago, but I never knew they wanted to join as far back as 30 years ago. Maybe I don't want Mizzou back anymore....
@Igolnik54
@Igolnik54 9 місяців тому
Good news my Friend, as of today Colorado has rejoined the Big 12
@dacokc
@dacokc 6 місяців тому
As far as I am concerned BigXII's history goes to 1907 just under a different name... Same can be said for the PAC or BigTen.. or SEC.. Big8 was great. So was the original Big12... that said we can't change the past and it's looking better than I could have expected since OU and UT left..
@japanfour292
@japanfour292 5 місяців тому
That commercial for Big 8 basketballs takes me back. Everyone growing up had those basketballs. Simpler times.
@nateg4582
@nateg4582 8 місяців тому
Great video and who's here after the 4 corner school left the pac for the big xii
@dylanjwagner
@dylanjwagner 9 місяців тому
Dude, this rocks. Do all the conferences. I saw the PAC history then this one, but you have this down.
@jackrobinson8169
@jackrobinson8169 9 місяців тому
Just going to add some context on the Big 12s formation So basically Texas wanted to go to the Pac 10 but they were getting nowhere and the SEC told A&M that it could not join all by itself. So both were back to square one. The idea of a merger was never seriously considered but what was, was a merger of the television rights. So both the Big 8 and SWC would sell their rights together, combine their television footprint, and then host a championship style game at the end of the season. They would also schedule OOC games between eachother. The Big 8 ultimately passed because they had no want for any Texas school outside of UT and A&M. So thats where things stood. After trying to go their own ways but getting nowhere, and after the Big 8 made it clear that they had no interest in a TV package, A&M and UT were going to join the Big 8 as the only two SWC members invited. Thats when shit hit the fan and it was a good time for Baylor and Tech to have influential state politicians. Those politicians, led by Bob Bullock, both threatened A&M and UT with budget cuts and also bribed them, A&M got the votes it needed to build Reed Arena, to tie themselves to both Baylor and Tech. And thats how Baylor and Tech got their spots It was a shotgun wedding from the get go
@IOS336
@IOS336 10 місяців тому
I disagree with the beginning of this video if you take out brands and just look at what the big 12 has done athletically the last 4 years it’s a conference on the rise. Basketball: Baylor 2021 champs Kansas 2022 champs Football: Baylor sugar bowl win Cincinnati playoff appearance TCU playoff win ( over Michigan)
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 9 місяців тому
Football Playoff Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2023) ACC: 9-4-2 (includes ND) B12: 4-1-0 (Includes OK but not CINCY, w/o OK but with CINCY 2-1-0) B1G: 8-2-1 PAC: 2-1-0 Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2023. 2020 N/A) ACC: 8-5-3 B12: 5-4-2 (includes OK but not HOUSTON, w/o OK but with HOUSTON 5-4-2) BIGEAST: 5-3-3 Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 1985-2023, 2020 N/A) ACC: 38-22-12 (includes L'VILLE & CUSE, not MD) B12: 21-09-04 (includes OK, CINCY & HOUSTON)
@Luigiman_95
@Luigiman_95 9 місяців тому
BIG 12 is a awesome basketball conference and honestly, I'll take it!
@spencercarruth9706
@spencercarruth9706 9 місяців тому
Dude…you literally left out Texas Tech getting to the national title game in basketball in 2019
@kennypowers1945
@kennypowers1945 6 місяців тому
@@Luigiman_95and an awesome football conference lol they made it the CFP and got 2nd to Georgia.
@kaylakincannon3458
@kaylakincannon3458 6 місяців тому
I miss the southern plains conference. It was a source of pride that at least during football, basketball, and wrestling, they had to respect the middle of the country.
@Igolnik54
@Igolnik54 9 місяців тому
Love the video, just want to add a few things. First, as of today it has been confirmed that Colorado is coming back, as well as San Diego state can’t join until 2 years from now with a 30 some million buyout. 2 with Colorado gone and USC and UCLA looking towards other places, Big 12 is in talks with Oregon and Washington. 3 Brett Yormark is looking to separate the media deals with basketball and Football, if this happens, most teams will be more valued on their basketball programs, meaning a lot more money in the conference
@tylerstein343
@tylerstein343 8 місяців тому
Can you do one on the big 10 ?
@NinjaWalrusProd
@NinjaWalrusProd 10 місяців тому
Optimal video
@kalebrasmussen8369
@kalebrasmussen8369 8 місяців тому
As an Utah fan and alum, I’m stoked to join the Big12 and regret the hostility engendered between fanbases because of TV deal positioning. Should be a great cultural fit, and the rivalry of BYU and Utah will add tv viewers for sure.
@goose14yess
@goose14yess 8 місяців тому
Can you do one of these for the SWAC and one for the SIAC? I’d appreciate the hell out of that. This deep dive is interesting as fuck.
@brotako9556
@brotako9556 9 місяців тому
I could see a future where major conferences like the Big 10 and XII do not stick to one particular region but have major colleges throughout the country. Whether it's USC vs Rutgers in the Big 10 or Arizona State vs Pitt in the Big XII. The only conference I couldn't see that happening in that could still thrive is the SEC.
@viprthered
@viprthered 8 місяців тому
I think as a Utah fan I should learn about my new conference next year
@djhutchinson8906
@djhutchinson8906 9 місяців тому
SEC conference vid next?🤔
@shadkarlson4948
@shadkarlson4948 7 місяців тому
I’m glad my Buffs are coming home. Never should have left the Big 12!
@JamesSmith-gv7ed
@JamesSmith-gv7ed 2 місяці тому
Don't agree with all of the details here but its.a great piece.
@ethanrivera2
@ethanrivera2 9 місяців тому
We (the fans) would all be happier if college sports went back to geographically based conferences of 8-12 teams.
@OwenAlderson-pf5tk
@OwenAlderson-pf5tk 9 місяців тому
This is awesome , but you said icon was a basketball only school, but they have a football program, but still a great video
@jamesreynolds5776
@jamesreynolds5776 5 місяців тому
Should add a short update for this video.. just mention that UA, ASU, CU and Utah are joining the XII
@christopherjustice6411
@christopherjustice6411 8 місяців тому
With the fall of the PAC 12. It looks like they’re a powerhouse again.
@AHomelessShoe
@AHomelessShoe 9 місяців тому
But my dad has told me so many times that college sports are about more than money! Surely he couldn't be looking at this through rose colored glasses right?
@igorlobkovenko9480
@igorlobkovenko9480 8 місяців тому
The Big 12 has won two of the last three men's basketball championships
@ryanadams2308
@ryanadams2308 9 місяців тому
I swear to god if UConn goes to the Big 12 I'll never forgive them. Going back to the Big East (who welcomed them back with open arms) was a huge part of why they won the title this past year. Leaving this soon after rejoining because of a few mediocre football seasons at the independent level; I can't think of a bigger middle finger to the Big East than that. If they go to the Big 12, that'll castrate their recruiting pipeline and fan interest since their nearest opponents will be literally hundreds of miles away. We saw what happened when they joined the AAC. All for money and a football dream that is just never going to come true.
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