The Lost Franklin Expedition

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Maritime Horrors

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In May of 1845, two vessels of the Royal Navy, HMS Erebus and HMS Terror, set out from England. En route to the Canadian Arctic, their mission was to find the Northwest Passage, a trade route from the Atlantic to the Pacific over Canada. But the men were never seen again. This mystery last almost 170 years before the ships were once again found. But these ships were some of the most technologically advanced and well prepared ships for the job. So just what happened? Check it out and find out just what might have happened to the Doomed Franklin Expedition.
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@tacitus6384
@tacitus6384 2 роки тому
"They offloaded 5 men who were too ill to continue the journey." They were the lucky ones.
@fluffywolfo3663
@fluffywolfo3663 2 роки тому
Some Englishman after being too sick to go on the expedition: "I may never live with this shame. I was _the man too sick to explore the unknown-_ Years later: "Shit, at least I'm alive."
@martywood8543
@martywood8543 2 роки тому
@@fluffywolfo3663 Yep.
@kaengurus.sind.genossen
@kaengurus.sind.genossen 2 роки тому
The only survivors
@snakeguy8646
@snakeguy8646 2 роки тому
I don’t think it’s a guarantee they lived tbh, if I remember they may have had Tuberculosis, which also is theorized to have been spreading among the crews of the ships
@SkyPilot-qx2sb
@SkyPilot-qx2sb Рік тому
This sounds like a horror Documentary line to be honest. What makes it more frightening… it’s true.
@RuhrRedArmy
@RuhrRedArmy 2 роки тому
The thought of Crozier potentially surviving years afterwards in the frozen wilderness is truly haunting and sad
@alexanderbrambila8274
@alexanderbrambila8274 2 роки тому
Haunting yes, sad no. I like to think their love of home and the small chance of seeing loved ones again, kept them going long after all hope was lost. Hope preserves us in our time of need. And maybe, just maybe they did make it, made a new life with the inuit people.
@letsgobrandon2523
@letsgobrandon2523 2 роки тому
Does sound quite strange, as wouldn't continuing south be a better chance than surviving in the arctic?
@alexanderbrambila8274
@alexanderbrambila8274 2 роки тому
@@letsgobrandon2523 without supplies and man power going south would be harder than staying with a tribe and surviving.
@Saralee-fp2rr
@Saralee-fp2rr 2 роки тому
I needed to rewind to make sure I heard that correctly
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
@@letsgobrandon2523 "Does sound quite strange, as wouldn't continuing south be a better chance than surviving in the arctic?" In theory, sure. In reality...Crozier and his men were surely suffering from malnutrition, and without skill or experience in Arctic overland travel. It was over 1200 miles to the seasonal Hudson Bay Company outpost at Fort Resolution, and even farther to the nearest year round one at Fort Churchill - over brutal terrain, much of it uncharted. It was feat well beyond their strength.
@oban6051
@oban6051 2 роки тому
“He was simply tired of the arctic” as a soldier stationed in Alaska I feel this on a spiritual level.
@thepodcastcrew1113
@thepodcastcrew1113 2 роки тому
Thanks that gave me a good chuckle!
@crabbyj
@crabbyj 2 роки тому
😆😆😆
@spookieboogi6161
@spookieboogi6161 2 роки тому
*looks left looks right* yes sir it’s… the same as it was 8 hours ago just lots of snow and *squints* oh and I just watched my sanity jump off a cliff
@biggsweaty
@biggsweaty 2 роки тому
I wish you well out there
@philliphampton5183
@philliphampton5183 2 роки тому
Wainwright?
@thundercactus
@thundercactus 3 роки тому
I read a very interesting paper on the Franklin's lead toxicity. And it posited that the source was primarily, and overwhelmingly, the water purification system. It's been assumed the cans were the primary source, BUT, despite being the first "batch" from that company, those cans were used many more times on many other ships without incident. And the amount of lead poisoning that could have been absorbed from the food just didn't seem to add up to what they were finding in the bodies. What makes way more sense is the specialized water system on the Terror and Erebus. Because they had steam locomotive engines fitted, which had massive 2000lb/hr water requirements, and seawater would have fouled them quickly, the ships needed a lot of fresh water in reserve to fill the need. Now, the primary source of distilled water on the ships was the Fraser patent stove, which was heated by steam, thus producing potable water for the crew (but only enough for the crew). There was a lead lined water tank as reserve, but if they were to use the engines they'd need a way to produce a lot of distilled water very quickly. Enter the Fraser patent steam heating furnace. A furnace that heats the ship by steam, thus in addition to heating, also produces a lot of distilled water, has the heat to melt ice and snow gathered in a deck tank into fresh water, AND can also supply steam for the Fraser stove. Now in most lead water systems on land, you get a nice calcification build up in the pipes which will naturally protect the lead from the water and vice versa.But on a freshly build heating system of lead pipes, with brand new lead water tanks, there's no calcification buildup. And distilled water does NOT like being pure water, so it desperately tries to absorb anything into it, like lead. And you know what makes that process MUCH faster? Heat. So running hot steam through lead pipes, then gathering the condensate basically guarantees a large amount of lead contamination. Not only were they drinking this water, but also using it to bake biscuits with all the flour they had brought. This would explain the levels of lead toxicity, as well as providing a plausible reason they may have abandoned ship; had a furnace broken from corroding its own steam pipes, it could have been cause to abandon ship. Not just due to the change of environment, but the fact that damp clothing is very deadly for anyone wanting to go outside in the arctic.
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
Huh, very interesting. I had read that they had potable water distiller, but didn't know the exact details on it. Very cool. Got any sources in case others want to read up on it as well?
@thundercactus
@thundercactus 3 роки тому
@@MaritimeHorrors Yes! UKposts is hating the link, it's a journal of the Hakluyt Society; "Identification of the Probable Source of the Lead Poisoning Observed in Members of the Franklin Expedition" by William Battersby It's remarkably difficult to find on its own, I had trouble finding it again myself, but it's well worth the read!
@victoriadiesattheend.8478
@victoriadiesattheend.8478 2 роки тому
@@thundercactus thank you.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
"This would explain the levels of lead toxicity, as well as providing a plausible reason they may have abandoned ship." It's an interesting thought, and a close analysis of the surviving pipes and furnace components on the wrecks might tell us a lot. But I also think we hardly need to look at the furnace and pipes for a reason why Crozier abandoned the ships in April 1848. Nutrition *had* to have been a pressing concern; they had three years of food stores, which on normal rations would last until July 1848; even had they spent the previous 9-12 months on reduced rations (and they probably did), it's doubtful the stretching of the food stores would get them through to the summer of 1849. And that does not even get into the issue of scurvy, which almost certainly had to be a live concern at that point. They would have needed fresh game, and they would have needed it urgently.
@abrahamdozer6273
@abrahamdozer6273 2 роки тому
@@richardmalcolm1457 The Inuit escaped getting scurvy by eating their seal meat raw, the fat of which contains high levels of vitamin C. As soon as you cook it, though the Vitamin C is destroyed by the heat. There is no way that you would have convinced a Royal Navy crew to eat their meat raw even if they knew what vitamins were, anyway.
@lawsharland7278
@lawsharland7278 2 роки тому
fucking crazy that Crozier was still trying to escape the arctic 12 yrs after the expedition first departed imagine being trapped in the great white nothing for 12 full years
@louise_rose
@louise_rose 2 роки тому
Is that more than just a legend? I figured he would have died in 1847/49 like the rest of them
@lawsharland7278
@lawsharland7278 2 роки тому
@@louise_rose their are reports from the Inuit of crozier still being alive with one other person and a cairn of European construction was found in the areas that the Inuit described
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
We actually don't *know* it was Crozier. What we have is a second hand report relayed by Inuit to Charles Francis Hall in the 1860's, describing a party of four white men. Hall eagerly glossed the description of one of the men as surely being Crozier. But we really don't know. And there's other founded scholarly speculation (see Dave Woodman's book) based on other Inuit reports that Crozier died on King William Island in the summer of 1849.
@louise_rose
@louise_rose 2 роки тому
@@richardmalcolm1457 Exactly. It's basically hearsay and it seems extremely unlikely that Crozier and a few other men would have travelled on for years in the wilderness, covering many hundreds of kilometers all on their own, They knew nothing about how to hunt wood buffalo, Arctic birds or whatever, and they were ill adjusted to the climate.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
@@louise_rose Indeed! And consider also Crozier's age (49 at the outset of the expedition) and health, permanntly damaged from the Antarctic expedition with Ross. Given this, how likely is it that he was "the last man standing" (or one of the last men)? I mean, it's not *impossible* - we simply don't know! There's so little concrete information to go on. But the odds were definitely against it. If there was a senior officer left alive in those final summers, it's more likely to have been the much younger, more athletic James Fitzjames. But I hate to speculate on the basus of so little data.
@CoconutsGlow
@CoconutsGlow 2 роки тому
With names like Erebus (Darkness) and Terror... Hindsight is 20/20 but damn that's some heavy foreshadowing.
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 2 роки тому
I think the intentions were originally to be intimidating to the enemies of the Royal navy, but I agree. Probably why we name spaceships things like Discovery and Apollo instead of Doom and Destruction.
@blackhawk4ful
@blackhawk4ful 20 днів тому
Five bucks they Would add a third ship: hms we are all going to die
@Henry-cd9pw
@Henry-cd9pw 2 роки тому
Fun fact about the 1819 franklin expedition where he ate his boots, there was also literal cannibalism. At one point they ran out of food, so some guys went off to hunt. Later only one returned and with lots of meat. Soon afterwards one of the guys at camp died while “cleaning his musket”. To save themselves the remaining crew killed the cannibal, Michel, when he returned from hunting.
@margotwenty6436
@margotwenty6436 2 роки тому
The Inuit often had to turn to cannibalism to survive if your land Visited by strange looking people would you not rather eat them then yourselves
@tylerbrown5478
@tylerbrown5478 2 роки тому
@@margotwenty6436 no I wouldn't
@loggue9193
@loggue9193 2 роки тому
@@tylerbrown5478 then you have never experienced true hunger
@hallamhal
@hallamhal 2 роки тому
I think there was someone in the Donner Party who died whilst 'cleaning their musket', seems to be a recurring theme
@mollybennett3291
@mollybennett3291 2 роки тому
I feel like I read a book about this… it envovled someone carving whale bones I think?
@Huntress_Hannah
@Huntress_Hannah 2 роки тому
The man who stayed home with his wife successfully dodged being eaten
@normanby100
@normanby100 2 роки тому
His wife would eat part ofhim most nights.
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 2 роки тому
Hello. What's the news from the other provinces?
@lonemaus562
@lonemaus562 2 роки тому
@@normanby100 lol nice one
@jaysonstinson9458
@jaysonstinson9458 2 роки тому
lo
@mattstorm360
@mattstorm360 2 роки тому
@@mervviscious He could have taken his wife with him on the expedition.
@cdgconverselimbo6505
@cdgconverselimbo6505 2 роки тому
800 Miles… that’s roughly the distance between Denmark and Italy …through snow, low on food and suffering from lead poisoning and scurvy. Fucking insane.
@indyj16
@indyj16 2 роки тому
1846/47 was also the same winter when the Donnor Party got trapped in the mountains, snowed in.
@Katpiratefan275
@Katpiratefan275 2 роки тому
Holy crap! 1846/47 a winter of tragedy.
@Linnnaeus
@Linnnaeus 2 роки тому
Abraham Lincoln was supposed to go with them as he was friends with the Donner's, but his wife convinced him not to
@Katpiratefan275
@Katpiratefan275 2 роки тому
@@Linnnaeus smart lady. Can only imagine President Lincoln resorting to cannibalism, or emerging from the blizzard and everyone believing they are saved, but And still as screwed as the rest of them. Yeesh
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 2 роки тому
I used to have a friend who would always tell the person in charge of seating at restaurants that his name was Donner, just to make them come out to the lobby when a table was ready and announce, "Donner, party of four..." (Or however many,.)
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 2 роки тому
@@Katpiratefan275 By a strange coincidence, that winter was _also_ the height (if "height" is the appropriate word) of the Great Hunger in Ireland.
@armavirumquecano6190
@armavirumquecano6190 2 роки тому
"And when I say there is no cannibalism in the Royal Navy, I do mean that there is a certain amount."
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
Perfect!
@Phoebe5448
@Phoebe5448 2 роки тому
Well, it was called the custom of the sea for a reason.
@Assassinus2
@Assassinus2 2 роки тому
"And what do you think the Argylls ate in Aden? Arabs? Yours etc., Captain B.J. Smethwick in a white wine sauce with shallots, mushrooms, and garlic."
@lauragoodspeed7044
@lauragoodspeed7044 Рік тому
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@beanieweenietapioca
@beanieweenietapioca 2 роки тому
As a young child I remember watching the Nova special that featured the 1980s exhumation and autopsies of Beachy Island. My parents would never have let me watch, say, a zombie movie at that age; but a PBS documentary was just fine, right? The faces on those exhumed sailors horrified me for years afterwards.
@Conehead919
@Conehead919 2 роки тому
Me too bro. I stoped eating chicken bc skin reminded me of the 3 bodies
@nono-fb8tr
@nono-fb8tr Рік тому
I had the opposite reaction. I watched that same Nova special as a kid and it sparked a life long fascination with mummified remains and old human remains in general. To this day I daydream about being a forensic anthropologist and studying old bodies.
@allecto0940
@allecto0940 Рік тому
@@nono-fb8tr me too.
@aratsincapacity
@aratsincapacity Рік тому
I has to close the tab and listen to the rest of this video because that body frightened me so bad (╥﹏╥)
@freak49
@freak49 Рік тому
I saw that Nova episode and it was the first time I heard this story. Ever since then I've had this obsession with stories of extreme survival - the Donner Party, the Essex, etc
@EireForTheIrish
@EireForTheIrish 3 роки тому
Been fascinated and obsessed with this mystery for years now... I can't even open a tin of beans without thinking about these poor souls and what they went through....
@louise_rose
@louise_rose 2 роки тому
I know, and you are far from alone. I first read about it in a book (from the 1920s) about the history of polar exploration - very good book by the way, it tells of many expeditions you won't find in most popular books - and of course also about the many expeditions that came to searxh for them. It's such an amazing, tragic drama. Franklin and his men were lost, but the wave of rescue expeditions helped clear up the geography of much of the high north. It's fortyy years since I read that book for the first time, and I was thrilled when the ships were actually found, in good condition in the cold water, a couple of years ago. I hope at least one of them can be lifted some day and restored, sort of, in a museum further south.
@harrietharlow9929
@harrietharlow9929 2 роки тому
All the stories of the early polar expeditons are poignant, but the two that haunt me are the Franklin and Scott expeditions.
@lonemaus562
@lonemaus562 2 роки тому
Idk why that made me laugh lol
@sergiobarros2697
@sergiobarros2697 2 роки тому
@@louise_rose do you remember the name of the 20’s book you mentioned…looks interesting.
@55elledge
@55elledge 2 роки тому
I found out about the Franklin expedition when I was in elementary school shortly after the exhumations on beechy island. Now they have found both ships, in a remarkable state of preservation. They almost look like the could be pumped out and refloated. Almost exactly in the spot where the natives in the area said it was.
@leflayart
@leflayart 2 роки тому
I watched the show The Terror, and the accuracy of casting look-a-like actors to the real life people is absolutely astounding.
@mariakelly1059
@mariakelly1059 Рік тому
I didn't see the series, but I loved the novel the series was based on, by Dan Simmons.
@Zeruel3
@Zeruel3 Рік тому
@@mariakelly1059 Having read the novel and seen the series I really, really recommend the series, it's as good if not better in some bits and virtually everything is historically accurate
@pemo2676
@pemo2676 Рік тому
@@mariakelly1059 i also recommend the series - really beautiful filmmaking and as accurate to the time period as you can get other then a few small exceptions. and tuunbaq
@brettspieleiq2384
@brettspieleiq2384 2 роки тому
For me, the monster in the amazon series always was just a symbol of all the things the crew could not understand about the far north and the cold and the dangers that were out there or that they only imagined. I'm not normally into horror movies, but man was that series great!
@sean5558
@sean5558 2 роки тому
Wasn’t it an AMC series
@samanthab1923
@samanthab1923 2 роки тому
sean Yes, it was really good too.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
@@sean5558 It was an AMC series, but Amazon carries it, and I suspect most people have seen it via Amazon.
@benharbak
@benharbak 2 роки тому
I read the book years before the AMC series and it's well worth the read. Dan Simmons is a masterful author and captures the hopelessness and bone-chilling cold the crews must have felt.
@zmajodnocaja5088
@zmajodnocaja5088 Рік тому
no, it's just a stupid monster a bad writer invented because he couldn't write an interesting novel despite the fact the real story is astonishing.
@clemdane
@clemdane 2 роки тому
The Terror tv series on AMC was absolutely brilliant. Yes, they added some supernatural elements, which I would normally loathe, but it didn't detract from the story. The performances were stellar across the entire cast and the writing as well. I normally hate when anyone takes liberties with history, but in this case the look and feel of it made me feel like I had traveled back to 1845. Some found the series slow, but I didn't mind the pace. They managed to maintain the suspense and tension until the very end.
@johnbooth9957
@johnbooth9957 2 роки тому
That was amazing
@clemdane
@clemdane 2 роки тому
@@meddle98 I envy you watching it for the first time!
@robparker1227
@robparker1227 2 роки тому
Why did Hickey abduct Crozier near the end? Given that he later stated he wasn't trying to escape (I'd assumed he needed Crozier to pilot the ship, to which they were supposedly returning) it didn't make sense, unless it was something to do with delivering the chief to the creature?
@MackerelCat
@MackerelCat 2 роки тому
Actually I found it disappointing
@zmajodnocaja5088
@zmajodnocaja5088 Рік тому
the monster made it unwatchable for me. what a load of s-h-i-t
@karanhdream
@karanhdream 2 роки тому
We found the wrecks of those ships mainly thanks to the testimony of the inuit hunters and their oral history. Inuits have what could be the most accurate oral history on the planet. Since they have no written history, their lives depended on the accuracy of the information passed down. Sadly, their testimony was ridiculed and denied by England's victorian society. They were insulted and dragged through the mud, because they saw how the men resorted to cannibalism to stay alive. 170 years later, it is thanks to them that the Erebus and Terror were found.
@ComedyLoverGirl
@ComedyLoverGirl Рік тому
I wonder if the Inuits had tried to help the stranded sailors. They clearly did interact with them, considering they knew the abysmal condition of their canned supplies, the cannibalism going on, and also could identify Crozier as one of the last people standing. Did they try to help, and did the sailors try to approach them for help, but couldn't make it work because of the language barrier or prejudice? Or were they wary of each other and kept their distance? Or perhaps they actually did help the sailors and that's why a few of them were able to stay alive on the ice for up to 12 years after the beginning of their ill-fated expedition.
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams Рік тому
@@ComedyLoverGirl probably, but caring for that many half-starved and frozen people is hard for small nomadic families. Like sure you could give them some meat, fish, or wild vegetables - maybe teach them to hunt and fish - but it’d be hard nursing them back to anything resembling healthy.
@barbararice6650
@barbararice6650 11 місяців тому
The cunts watched people starve, so fucking get out of here, oh but the bastards have mobile phones and modern technology these days, technology Franklin's men gave their lives to acquire 👈😑
@amandaduckett3093
@amandaduckett3093 11 місяців тому
@@ComedyLoverGirl I'm guessing they would have, but a similar situation ass the Donner party probably went down, where the whites refused help because of racism
@sethescope
@sethescope 10 місяців тому
​@@joshuahadamsyou make a good point - and realistically speaking, how many supplies could they spare without putting themselves at risk? or greater risk, I suppose, considering the inherent risk of living in Arctic conditions and how I imagine food wouldn't typically be in huge supply. my super duper basic understanding is that the size of a community depends on access to resources. that's why - based on my understanding - communities tend to be larger in places with better conditions and vice versa. I imagine most inuit people at the time, being regular people, would have wanted to help and probably did help as much as they could. but like you point out, their ability to help was understandably limited
@seanprice7645
@seanprice7645 2 роки тому
imagine knowing you have to walk 800 miles in a straight line just to reach civilization. nobody walks in straight lines. the earth does not allow such conveniences. that walk was more like 1000+ miles considering the route they would actually be able to walk.
@JD-tn5lz
@JD-tn5lz 2 роки тому
Being Alaskan and having lived near, worked and recreated above the Arctic Circle, I promise you that 800 miles walking it was a most desperate measure. It's actually faster in winter than summer though, tundra and muskeg take the legs out of any man.
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain 2 роки тому
It was more like 250 miles to reach Back's river, and you can travel in a pretty straight shot when it's mostly over packed ice and flat gravelly terrain. Once you reached the river you could row the rest of the way, which is a hell of a lot easier than walking, especially when you have the course of the river as effectively a guide. Unfortunately even that was too much by that point, starving, scurvy ridden, and half frozen as they were
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
I actually charted it out. Down the west coast of King William, and down Chantry Bay, and then up the Back River to Fort Resolution, in all of its winding ways...comes out to over 1,270 miles. The problem is that Back River is pretty winding, and worse, filled with treacherous rapids they'd have to portage. This is a key reason why experts like Dave Woodman have been skeptical that Fort Resolution really was Crozier's objective. He had a copy of Richard King's account on EREBUS; he knew what kind of journey that would be.
@drizzle8927
@drizzle8927 2 роки тому
800 miles is not that hard, when the human body reacts to cold weather, the cells in skin expand which tightens the muscle tissue. once that process begins, the brain releases a chemical for the rest of the body to absorb called therosyncin. this chemical prepares the body to endure harsh conditions. you ever eaten taco bell, wake up in the morning and run out without having a bowl movement? and in the middle of an errand you feel your stomach at the barrier of your sphincter? Therosyncin is was contains that hot demons breath whispering to leak slowly through your human muffler. i made all this up and didn't even watch this video. just wanted to join the convo :)
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
​@@drizzle8927800 miles *is* doable, even in the Arctic (well, the summer, at any rate)! Indeed, Roald Amundsen covered over 1,860 nautical miles (3,440 km) on his 1911 trip to and from the South Pole. So why did Amundsen succeed where Franklin’s men died? 1) Amundsen and his team were in peak condition, well acclimated to polar climates (they were all Norwegians, after all), not a pack of sedentary seamen suffering from malnutrition, scurvy, and likely an array of other debilities. 2) Amundsen and his team were polar professionals, skilled in traveling and surviving overland polar trips; they had adopted animal skin suits, dog sledges, and other skills learned from the Inuit during Amundsen’s 1903-05 Northwest Passage. Franklin’s men knew how to sail ships and navigate ice in their sleep, but none of them had any real experience of Arctic overland travel. 3) Amundsen, like the Inuit, used a small team (5 men), a far easier party to feed than Crozier’s 105; he also set up supply depots along the way. 4) Amundsen’s journey was all over land or ice shelf, meaning he did not have to bring boats (very heavy!) in case ice opened up while he was crossing straits or inlets. Crozier and his men appear to have been hauling big ship’s boats on heavy sledges, weighing thousands of pounds each. For all that, Amundsen travelled on very slim margins; had he run into any significant delays due to blizzards, landslides, etc., well…he’d have ended up like Robert Scott.
@tomhutchins7495
@tomhutchins7495 2 роки тому
Just a quick note on decoupling the screw propeller: while it is certainly a benefit that hauling the screw inside the hull would protect it from ice, the main reason this was done was because the screw was an emergency propulsion. Early steam engines were inefficient, used coal very quickly, and combined with the small coal bunkers on board this meant they were only used if the ship were dangerously becalmed. The reason you pull the screw out of the water is that trailing a static screw produces a lot of drag.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
Good points. Add to that that Franklin only had enough coal to do 12 days full steaming. Much is made of Terror's and Erebus's propulsion as a great advance; but while it was certainly an improvement on any previous polar expedition, it really would have been of only very limited, sparing use. Virtually all of their voyage would have been under sail power only.
@eliotreader8220
@eliotreader8220 2 роки тому
@@richardmalcolm1457 i understand both of the steam engines that powered both ships was adapted underpowered steam locomotives instead of marine type stationary steam engines. I understand the Royal navy brought them cheap. i expect they got through a lot of fuel getting up steam every time they used them
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
@@eliotreader8220 Right. Just so. A key reason the RN did this was not just the low cost, but also the limited space. EREBUS and TERROR were small (sub-400 tons) and maritime engines and the requisite coal supply would have eaten up much of the room in the hold needed for food supplies.
@Katpiratefan275
@Katpiratefan275 2 роки тому
Well, the locomotive engine would be rendered useless then, a giant paper weight. It's top speed would have only been 4 knots. And looking at maps of the Arctic, you can't go very fast either without being extremely careful, not without running the risk of ripping your keel out from under you. I understand they thought having a locomotive engine and propeller on board was a good idea, but in the case of Arctic exploration, would have been a better idea to look at other options or other use of space.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
@@Katpiratefan275 In truth, the better idea would have been not to send it at all! Well - or at least, to send a radically different kind mission. It's generally accepted that Franklin had very little chance of succeeding, even had the climate not been so adverse in 1846-48.
@JD_79
@JD_79 2 роки тому
The food cans are such a hotly debated topic that we will never really know what state the food was in. It has been speculated that the food provided for this expedition was actually considered good by the standards of the time and that the quality went downhill sometime later. I have read accounts that the Navy was using this food source elsewhere in service for years before they began to encounter problems with it. Additionally, while the lead sealing the cans is an issue it was not nearly as much lead as they were receiving from the water system piping and, as scary as this sounds, was not considered an excessive amount of lead exposure over what the average British subject was being exposed to already. Again, this is speculative. Lead poisoning may have been a big factor or might have paled in comparison to the scurvy the crew was certainly experiencing three years into the expedition.
@felixbeutin8105
@felixbeutin8105 2 роки тому
Also the lead would be electrochemically attracted to the tin in the cans
@mariakelly1059
@mariakelly1059 Рік тому
I read a very interesting nonfiction book called Iceblink that explores the lead poisoning theory extensively.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 8 місяців тому
This was government contractors makeing the food Even in WW2 they took short cuts
@kimraudenbush427
@kimraudenbush427 6 місяців тому
Actually, the lead poisoning alone was enough to doom the expedition. What you need to remember is that the poisoning itself didn't kill most of them, the RESULTS of the poisoning did. One of the effects is reduced concentration, meaning you can't think clearly, and are more likely to make bad decisions. It also weakens the muscles. Below is a list of lead poisoning symptoms quoted from the Agency for Toxic Substance and Disease Registration website: "Continuum of Signs and Symptoms of Ongoing Lead Exposure [ATSDR 2010] Lowest Exposure Dose Signs and Symptoms: Impaired Cognitive Abilities/Subclinical Neuro/Psychoneuro/Neurobehavioral Findings (patient may appear asymptomatic) Decreased learning and memory Decreased verbal ability Early signs of hyperactivity or ADHD Impaired speech and hearing functions Lowered IQ Low Exposure Dose Signs and Symptoms Irritability Lethargy Mild fatigue Myalgia or paresthesia Occasional abdominal discomfort Moderate Exposure Dose Signs and Symptoms Arthralgia Constipation Difficulty concentrating/Muscular exhaustibility Diffuse abdominal pain General fatigue Headache Tremor Vomiting Weight loss High Exposure Dose Signs and Symptoms Colic (intermittent, severe abdominal cramps) Encephalopathy-may abruptly lead to seizure, change in consciousness, coma, and death Paresis or paralysis"
@garyreid6165
@garyreid6165 2 роки тому
I have never heard of this story. When AMC brought The Terror to the small screen, I began to wonder. Expeditions like these were siren calls to adventurers, either experienced or novice. The show was a very handsome production. I remember having to applaud the production design, props and especially the wardrobe. The cast was also top notch, as well. In that environment, where it is always cold and food is scarce, God only knows what was running through the crews of The Terror and Erebus. They were fighting multiple battles on multiple fronts from within and without and they lost their lives.
@jebediahkrimsoncraftleding3012
@jebediahkrimsoncraftleding3012 2 роки тому
The book by Dan Simmons, by the same name, is incredible. It's incredibly oppressive, so it took me a bit to get through, but if you enjoyed the show I imagine you'd love the book.
@ImCarolB
@ImCarolB 2 роки тому
Even if I learn nothing new about the Franklin Expedition, which was not the case here, I have to listen to every podcast I encounter. It's so horribly fascinating.
@cavemanstyle1376
@cavemanstyle1376 Рік тому
"The Terror" series was phenomenal. An amazingly dark piece of art. The sense of dread and despair is unrelenting.
@heyitspete6472
@heyitspete6472 Рік тому
Why do people leave such cringe comments
@DoubleRainbows667
@DoubleRainbows667 Рік тому
​@@heyitspete6472 cry about it
@DannieKamete
@DannieKamete 10 місяців тому
@@heyitspete6472 Cringe how? Go read a book and increase your vocabulary. He's using language the way it's meant to be used. If you've ever seen The Terror, this description absolutely spot on
@clovernoris
@clovernoris 5 місяців тому
@@heyitspete6472 look in the mirror bozo
@Alan-ej6wb
@Alan-ej6wb 3 роки тому
I was able to go to beechy island and one of my most prized possessions is some rusty tin from the cans.
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
That's an awesome keepsake!
@Del-Canada
@Del-Canada 2 роки тому
Don't reuse it though or try to lick the insides.
@alanluscombe8a553
@alanluscombe8a553 2 роки тому
@@MaritimeHorrors thanks, I must say I am assuming it was from franklins men because I don’t know if it may have been some of the supplies that were left for them.
@notbillcosby2499
@notbillcosby2499 2 роки тому
Holy crap that’s awesome
@robertstone9988
@robertstone9988 2 роки тому
Be careful some places there's laws against collecting what might be historical artifacts. I know where I live if I was to find like a Roman coin I have to turn into the museum if I keep it it's theft
@nobbynoris
@nobbynoris 2 роки тому
This expedition was definitely one of history's great "I wish I hadn't tried that" moments.
@clarsach29
@clarsach29 2 роки тому
The Dan Simmons novel "The Terror" is really worth a read. You get a vivid picture of the cold, the dark and the claustrophobia on board the ships marooned in the pack ice during polar night and of the misery and despair of scurvy and exhaustion as they trudged south.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 2 роки тому
Sir Michael Palin (of Monty Python and travel documentaries fame) has also written a nonfiction book about the career of HMS _Erebus_ (and _Terror_ as well, since as exploration ships they always deployed together), which is less dramatized, but barely less dramatic. No monsters, though, apart from arguably the Admiralty.
@apancher
@apancher 2 роки тому
Wow, this had me entranced from start to finish. The idea of anyone not from that area surviving in the wilderness for over a decade is mindblowing.
@broaddusmarines
@broaddusmarines 2 роки тому
I’ve watched season one of the Terror three times over. Probably the best thing I’ve watched all year.
@TypeZeta2
@TypeZeta2 2 роки тому
Season one of The Terror is really good. Keeps you on the edge of your seat the whole time
@angelofthedead5589
@angelofthedead5589 2 роки тому
Brought here by Wendigoon. This provided even more information on this tragedy. But one last thing… Crozier, as a true Irishman, was just built different.
@LaputanMachad
@LaputanMachad 2 роки тому
We're hard to kill
@VitZ9
@VitZ9 Рік тому
@@LaputanMachad Unless we are blowing ourselves up to get rid of the English.
@Goddot
@Goddot Рік тому
@@LaputanMachad God knows the Brits tried
@ComedyLoverGirl
@ComedyLoverGirl Рік тому
@@Goddot Lol your dark sense of humour kills me.
@Balrog-tf3bg
@Balrog-tf3bg Рік тому
He wanted one last drink
@admanios
@admanios Рік тому
I feel like it's worth mentioning that Dr. John Rae was the one who reported to the Admiralty that the Inuit had discovered evidence of cannibalism among the Franklin crew. Franklin's wife took offense to that and had Rae's name dragged through the mud for taking the Inuit at their word.
@tomhaskett5161
@tomhaskett5161 11 місяців тому
She got Charles Dickens to weigh in on the controversy. Later, Dickins and Wilkie Collins wrote a play about it called "The Frozen Deep"
@barbararice6650
@barbararice6650 11 місяців тому
What kind of cunts watch people starve 👈😕
@krymera666x7
@krymera666x7 2 роки тому
I’ve been to the gravesite of sailors from both the expedition and rescue party. It a cold and desolate place, but rather beautiful when I saw it in daylight.
@spiffywolf2850
@spiffywolf2850 2 роки тому
Getting sick and getting kicked from the trip might have seemed shit luck at the time but getting off those doomed vessels was a blessing lol
@charlottescat3794
@charlottescat3794 3 роки тому
I love this story. It was one of the stories (along with the story of the wreck of the Dutch ship Batavia - man is that a hell of a story) which has me considering going into Maritime Archaeology. Hopefully once I have finished my studies for work!
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
Sounds like an interesting one, I will have to look into it. Thank you, and good luck with your studies.
@AtlasNL
@AtlasNL 2 роки тому
It certainly is an interesting story, and a beautiful ship. There’s a reconstruction in Lelystad in the Netherlands you can visit.
@jackpayne4658
@jackpayne4658 2 роки тому
The historian Mike Dash wrote a great account of these events, 'Batavia's Graveyard'. You would be hard pressed to invent such an amazing tale - I'm very surprised that it isn't a film yet.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
@@MaritimeHorrors You might also consider a video on the disastrous 1786-89 Lapérouse Expedition - the parallels to Franklin are striking - kind of a Tropical Seas version of Franklin, and we know even less about its fate.
@lori5353
@lori5353 2 роки тому
@@MaritimeHorrors Will you also look into doing an episode about the tragic USS Jeannette Expedition? My great great grandfather survived both the USS Polaris Expedition (he was one of the seamen who survived being marooned on a drifting ice floe in Arctic conditions for 6 months) and the USS Jeannette Expedition (he survived months traversing Arctic Siberia trying to find civilization/help after their ship was crushed in the ice and sank). I inherited some of his personal belongings/documents that up until a few years ago had been stored away in a trunk in my parents attic for the past 30 years. I would gladly share photos/videos of the items upon request.
@lejammiedodgere
@lejammiedodgere 3 роки тому
Great video my guy, you clearly put a lot of work into your vids!
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
Hey shipmate, appreciate the support. Fan of your videos as well. Keep up the good work!
@jarcuadanantus28
@jarcuadanantus28 2 роки тому
If you don’t like stuff, skip ahead. Me: Oh what is it just some bones or something? Well. That face will haunt my nightmares forever now.
@gl540
@gl540 2 роки тому
they said they would provide timestamps and i was so ready i skip ahead but.... 😃😃???????
@watermelonspice513
@watermelonspice513 2 роки тому
bOnEs
@vmm5163
@vmm5163 2 роки тому
His teeth were the finest teeth I've ever seen
@vitamemec4708
@vitamemec4708 2 роки тому
LMAO same. How does one unsee it
@TUMARK2
@TUMARK2 2 роки тому
Even Lewis and Clark hoped to find a water route to the Pacific. It was one of their objectives. Which is why the took such a difficult and roundabout way west, rowing and pushing a boat upriver on the Mississippi
@forestshepherd253
@forestshepherd253 Рік тому
The Missouri, are you thinking of?They were not exploring the Mississippi during their expedition.
@theghostofsetokaiba3761
@theghostofsetokaiba3761 3 роки тому
I have been obsessed with this mystery for awhile now. One thing I watched on another documentary said that the climate at the time was going through a harsher winter than normal. I believe Franklin died of stress from the expectation & condition of the exploration.
@williamjnothingburgeresq
@williamjnothingburgeresq 2 роки тому
Nah, he was ripped apart by an Eskimo polar bear spirit. I saw it on tv
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 2 роки тому
I saw that documentary, very informative.
@Iron-Bridge
@Iron-Bridge 2 роки тому
Nah, Tun Baaq killed him bro.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
"I believe Franklin died of stress from the expectation & condition of the exploration." Well....Franklin was 59 and in poor health when the expedition set out in 1845 - this is noted in much of the last correspondence sent home from Disko Bay by officers and men. Seems reasonable to think that the hardship of two winters in the Arctic weakened him to the point where he could have been vulnerable to a number of dangerous illnesses - most likely, pneumonia. It's striking that the Victory Point and Gore Point notes by Franklin just weeks before his death state "All well." Franklin and his officers were likely assuming (not unreasonably) that leads would open up again that summer, and they'd resume their journey onward.
@williamjnothingburgeresq
@williamjnothingburgeresq 2 роки тому
@@richardmalcolm1457 no, I'm pretty sure it was the bear spirit. It ripped his leg off and threw him down a hole
@LunaMan_
@LunaMan_ 3 роки тому
Holy cow, this video was a treat to watch. Thank you for your hard work, I can see true care and love went into this video. I’ll be sure to tune in for new content!
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
Much obliged, Shipmate. Thank you for the kind words.
@boowiebear
@boowiebear 2 роки тому
12 years he survived. Incredible.
@mariuszmiroslaw2290
@mariuszmiroslaw2290 Рік тому
But by that time this person would have come to civilization. Well, unless it would actually be him. As a commander who lost all of his souls, he would actually have no reason to come back.
@Jaxck77
@Jaxck77 2 роки тому
The most fucked up part of the story? Inuits were reporting seeing the ships as early as the 1900s, but the Canadian government flat out ignored them for 110 years because they’re First Nations. The expedition in the 2010s explicitly ignored the local Inuit telling them exactly where to look. It wasn’t until a second crew showed up, listened to the Inuit, and found the ship within literally 3 hours of looking. A 170 year mystery that was solved 120 years ago.
@googleuser7771
@googleuser7771 2 роки тому
The most fucked up part of the story is that the Inuits offered no help despite seeing them resort to cannibalism
@kinorris1709
@kinorris1709 2 роки тому
@@googleuser7771 If someone's resorting to cannibalism, you don't approach them unless you're prepared for the risk of violence.
@honeybadger6275
@honeybadger6275 Рік тому
@@kinorris1709 not sure why everyone is assuming the white people were cannibals and it wasnt the other way around
@kinorris1709
@kinorris1709 Рік тому
@@honeybadger6275 I was just stating that in the case where someone is resorting to cannibalism, approaching them isn't a good idea. I never said that I believe everything. Just that if the accounts of the Inuits are true, it was justified to avoid them. Note how I started with "If someone's resorting to cannibalism..." IF.
@honeybadger6275
@honeybadger6275 Рік тому
@@kinorris1709 Fair enough man, I just got sick and tired of seemingly everyone in the comment section looking at what happened through the scope of modern western morality and assuming everyone in the world has always had the same morals and values that they do.
@lonemaus562
@lonemaus562 2 роки тому
Could they really have been walking in the cold and dark for that many years ? I can’t imagain how that would be possible
@JD-tn5lz
@JD-tn5lz 2 роки тому
Not dark all year, summers of no dark. No doubt enough mosquitoes to darken the flesh in June and July. Another failure is often underestimating caloric needs. Pulling a sledge across terrain, or just packing all day, easily an five to eight thousand calories need per day
@CharlesFreck
@CharlesFreck 2 роки тому
Individuals/small groups have been known to accomplish some truly epic feats at times. They might have had some years there where they actually got very lucky with hunting. They might have had more knowledge then we presume. They could have been aided by the Inuit. I know here in Australia, many of our early explorers survived solely because the local Aboriginals would give them food and shelter for a while. It's odd that the Inuit didn't have any accounts like this, of taking any of the last survivors in. Maybe that's cultural? Still, I don't imagine the Inuit were such cold people that they wouldn't have potentially given some food to the smaller parties out of pity.
@lisacepluch1152
@lisacepluch1152 2 роки тому
@@CharlesFreck I was just thinking the same thing. Surely if the Inuit people had seen man walking within a reasonable distance they would have attempted to help them.
@vmm5163
@vmm5163 2 роки тому
@@lisacepluch1152 the Innuit may not have offered help if they thought the men were cannibals. Probably keeping their distance would have been the wisest thing
@briancrawford8751
@briancrawford8751 Рік тому
@@CharlesFreck The Inuit could not feed themselves and their children AND a bunch of sick sailors. They weren't going to jeopardize their own lives and well-being for the sake of a bunch of strangers.
@ashkash8686
@ashkash8686 2 роки тому
If that was crozier, he must have been one heck of a survivalist.
@NashmanNash
@NashmanNash 2 роки тому
To think that with steam engines actually meant for ships(and fuel for more than 12 days) Erebus and Terror might have made it..But yeah...putting a partly disassembled steam locomotive with 25 HP on them was cheaper.. Edit:To clarify..the tug that pulled Erebus out of harbor had a bit over 200 HP engines...
@bl7355
@bl7355 2 роки тому
Even if Erebus & Terror had more powerful engines, their bows were not shaped for ice breaking. They would have simply piled up the ice in front of them. The engines were intended for pushing through calm water when conditions were favourable. Getting iced in for one, possibly two winters was always expected to be a reality of the voyage. That is why it took ages before any rescues were attempted because it was assumed the ships were just doing what was planned. Also, tugs are/were designed for power, not range. A tug with a 200hp engine has the benefit of being able to go alongside every day.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
Oh, how I wish that were true. But even a propulsion system like HMS RATTLER's (200hp screw) woudn't have got them through Victoria Strait's pack ice. The first problem is, TERROR and EREBUS were too small for a plant like that, let alone the amount of coal they'd need to operate it for any length of time. The second problem is...well, really, as @B L says above, you need a modern icebreaker to get through at all; this is true today, too. No wooden steam warship of the 1840's was adequate to the job. This is just one more aspect in which the Franklin Expedition was poorly conceived.
@jimhjortsberg2990
@jimhjortsberg2990 2 роки тому
Franklin: Uses military grade vessels with a combined weight of over a 1000 tons, over a hundred crew members and government sponsorship in order to claim the northwest passage but ends up dying in failure. Amundsen: Takes 6 people with him in a modified 45 ton fishing boat and claims the northwest passage because he can.
@blastproces
@blastproces 2 роки тому
The timing for the Franklin lot was bad due to unusual cold summers at that time not bad seamanship
@jimhjortsberg2990
@jimhjortsberg2990 2 роки тому
@@blastproces i dont think i claimed any such either. Just made an observation regarding scale.
@cyberpunk-2O77
@cyberpunk-2O77 2 роки тому
@@jimhjortsberg2990 if anything, the government being involved in the supply of the ship made it worse
@throbbingfellow1136
@throbbingfellow1136 9 місяців тому
@@cyberpunk-2O77Agreed, the admiralty wasn’t exactly known for making the best decisions.
@Pewnhound112
@Pewnhound112 4 місяці тому
Amundsen was not forging upon uncharted territory. Massive, MASSIVE detail in those days.
@jay-kg8ke
@jay-kg8ke 2 роки тому
The terror season one was a great show.
@samanthab1923
@samanthab1923 2 роки тому
I really enjoyed it. Have to get the book.
@elscruffomcscruffy8371
@elscruffomcscruffy8371 2 роки тому
The Terror Tv Series is bloody brilliant! What a great video. Thank you!
@jeffblacky
@jeffblacky 10 місяців тому
I ran into a old British veteran during a DDay convention back in 1982 His great grand uncle served on the Erebus . The family never heard from him again and assumed died
@JJDoggett
@JJDoggett 2 роки тому
Great video! Learnt some new info here, the bit about the Inuit finding one of the ships is really interesting and very spooky too knowing what had gone on. Appreciate the warning about THOSE photos too, I find this mystery fascinating but I have watched videos where they just put them up and more than one book on the subject has them on the cover!
@WojciechP915
@WojciechP915 2 роки тому
Ah, for just one time I would take the Northwest Passage To find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea Tracing one warm line through a land so wild and savage And make a Northwest Passage to the sea
@elisabethandersen1102
@elisabethandersen1102 2 роки тому
Kipling?
@jaydenwilliams6885
@jaydenwilliams6885 2 роки тому
Stan Rogers was the GOAT
@captainahab1533
@captainahab1533 3 роки тому
Found your channel literally just this morning, when I watched this video. Holy shit man... This stuff is pure gold!
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
Much obliged, shipmate!
@Lakridza67
@Lakridza67 Рік тому
My grandmother was an Amundsen. I often think of CPT. Crozier, and his wisdom in navigating this passage. I loved the show ‘The Terror’. Ross was depicted brilliantly in this show. Franklin was played beautifully by C. Hinds.
@k.brynngonzales4881
@k.brynngonzales4881 2 роки тому
You should totally talk about The Endurance expedition led by Ernest Shackelton
@gTheHun
@gTheHun 2 роки тому
Great content! Good job, and if I could suggest: please add map with indications on what you are mentioning, instead of repeated cuts of the same picture; that would put things in better perspective. Keep up the good work 👏
@vicstanfieldshire7754
@vicstanfieldshire7754 2 роки тому
Stan Rogers song about The Northwest Passage is so good, now this video shows up and you have given it new life. Thanks so much
@jarrodsoos1417
@jarrodsoos1417 2 роки тому
I just found your videos and am blown away by the quality all around, from the details, sound quality, your voice and reading quality. I love hearing videos on my way to work and this is definitely a channel ill use and am glad I found!
@stephenhester9804
@stephenhester9804 2 роки тому
Always had an interest in this, one of my ancestors was among the crew of the first Ships that went looking for them.
@vmm5163
@vmm5163 2 роки тому
Wow that's impressive 👍👍👍
@phatlaluke
@phatlaluke 2 роки тому
It was homeward bound one night on the deep Swinging in my hammock I fell asleep I dreamed a dream and I thought it true Concerning Franklin and his gallant crew With one hundred seamen he sailed away To the frozen ocean in the month of May To seek a passage around the pole Where we poor seamen do sometimes go Through cruel hardships they mainly strove Their ship on mountains of ice was drove Only the Eskimo with his skin canoe Was the only one that ever came through In Baffin's Bay where the whale fish blow The fate of Franklin no man may know The fate of Franklin no tongue can tell Lord Franklin along with his sailors do dwell And now my burden it gives me pain For my long lost Franklin I'd cross the main Ten thousand pounds I would freely give To say on earth that my Franklin do live
@Mysucculentchinesemeal
@Mysucculentchinesemeal 2 роки тому
I love maritime history. I can’t believe this is the first time I’ve seen this channel. Very cool idea you have here, I look forward to a rainy day off to watch everything.
@Brian-nw2bn
@Brian-nw2bn 2 роки тому
Your videos are brilliant man! Somethin about maritime mysteries is just perfect to fall asleep to. Keep up the great work brother youll blow up in no time! Godspeed!
@alevine1951
@alevine1951 3 роки тому
Superbly well-presented post on all levels. Surely no shortage of maritime horrors - bring 'em on! Deserves more subs - just added mine.
@justinmelendez9875
@justinmelendez9875 2 роки тому
Fun fact: two of the newest maps added to TF2 Halloween rotation were named Erebus and Terror, named after these ships
@Leprechaunlock
@Leprechaunlock 3 роки тому
Oh man I been excited for you to cover this one
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
Yea, this one was pretty brutal, but none the less interesting!
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
@5:36 - Just a niggle: It's a commonplace that Francis Crozier was rejected out of hand to command the expedition, and rejected specifically because of his Irish background. In fact, however, the First Lord of the Admiralty, Lord Haddington, had consistent misgivings about Sir John Franklin's fitness for the job (due to his age and health) when Franklin's name was mooted, and apparently privately approached Crozier to offer him the job at the end of 1844. Crozier, racked by depression, turned Haddington down. He wrote about it to his friend, Sir James Ross, as to why he turned it down. "In truth, I sincerely feel I am not equal to the hardship. I am, in truth, still of opinion as to my own unfitness to lead. You, on that subject as well as all others, know my whole mind." (30 December, 1844) It is the great irony of Crozier that the command was nonetheless thrust on him in the worst possible circumstances in June 1847, when Franklin died during the expedition's third summer, while the ships were frozen in pack ice off King William Island.
@matthew-dq8vk
@matthew-dq8vk 2 роки тому
Yeah, I think if there were any mumblings about Croziers Irish heritage it would have come from Barrow. Barrow was definitely kind of one of those 'British discoveries should be made by english sailors'' types. Can't really do anything about it if Haddington tells him to hush though, Nice to hear at least Haddington knew Crozier should have been the one
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 2 роки тому
@@matthew-dq8vk It's a good question, actually. I've not dug into Barrow's correspondence enough to sort out just what his real view of Crozier was; but in broad strokes, I don't disagree with you. (The irony is, the first commander to complete the Northwest Passage was an Irishman anyway!)
@matthew-dq8vk
@matthew-dq8vk 2 роки тому
@@richardmalcolm1457 Sure, It definitely wasn't the whole admiralty and I think certain pieces of Franklin lore like to exaggerate how bad Crozier was treated due to being Irish. It was probably there, but not to the extent it's mythologized. He was northern Irish after all and upper middle class.
@ColFork85
@ColFork85 3 роки тому
Great video again, worth the small wait!
@nickbryant2318
@nickbryant2318 2 роки тому
Recently found your channel, love the content. Your videos are teaching me some cool history and very interesting
@17Watman
@17Watman 2 роки тому
Historybuffs also did a video covering this story as well for those interested.
@Katpiratefan275
@Katpiratefan275 2 роки тому
I almost think that some could have survived if they made the trek back to Beechey island. It's half the distance than going south to Backs fish River, they still had a camp set up there, they have hunted game there before, and if anyone came looking, that would be one of the earliest places they would have been found
@nitinh2499
@nitinh2499 9 місяців тому
Great video! I’m in awe of the bravery of sailors who set out on expeditions like this, even though they knew that they might never make it back. It takes a lot of courage to sign up for a journey like this one. May their souls Rest in Peace.
@chubbysolaireeaterofpussy3192
@chubbysolaireeaterofpussy3192 3 роки тому
underrated channel
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
I greatly appreciate the support, shipmate. In all honesty though my first video was posted two months ago. So I don't think I'm doing too bad so far. But all the same, appreciate the love.
@johnnycash1365
@johnnycash1365 3 роки тому
Over 7 billion people on the planet and I've not seen 1 comment underrating this channel. Hate these type of comments.
@chubbysolaireeaterofpussy3192
@chubbysolaireeaterofpussy3192 3 роки тому
@@johnnycash1365 it only had about 100 views and a few likes a week ago, things are clearly different now
@francessimmonds5784
@francessimmonds5784 3 роки тому
I read another account that said the Inuit that found the ship found some men alive on board, one of which warned them not to go near the tents, presumably because of cannibalism. I wonder which version is true.
@victoriadiesattheend.8478
@victoriadiesattheend.8478 2 роки тому
Personally I believe that most of the Inuit stories are correct.
@patroberts5449
@patroberts5449 2 роки тому
I also agree that the Inuit had no need to lie and would have been pretty horrified by the condition of these “explorers” and I say that because obviously the people that lived there were smarter and more equipped to deal with that environment.
@samanthab1923
@samanthab1923 2 роки тому
Interesting
@bloodyhell8201
@bloodyhell8201 2 роки тому
@@gsesquire3441 this is different though.
@lucasfragoso7634
@lucasfragoso7634 2 роки тому
@@gsesquire3441 not true for the inuit at least proven by the Norwegian explorer Roald Amundsen the man who would reach the other side of the passage for the first time spent plenty of time living with and learning how to survive from the inuit which also helped him reach the south pole! Had they really wanted to mess with him he wouldn't have accomplished his goals
@schnauzersrule8886
@schnauzersrule8886 2 роки тому
One thing is for sure, these were tough men. Thank you for this episode. It was very good.
@ieatbugsandplants9216
@ieatbugsandplants9216 2 роки тому
Just stumbled across your channel today man loving your work time to binge thanks for the quality uploads!
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 2 роки тому
In case you don't know this - Sir is a title that goes with the person's first name and not their surname. So in the case of Sir James Ross it's Sir James nor Sir Ross.
@skookapalooza2016
@skookapalooza2016 2 роки тому
Your channel is growing because of your excellent content, sir. You have a great channel and hope to see you soon reach 50,000 subscribers. I don't think it will take very long.
@rogerrendzak8055
@rogerrendzak8055 Рік тому
Good documentary 👍!! I'm a history buff, and know a tiny bit about, The Northwest Passage. My brother and I, had the boardgame 'Northwest Passage' circa 1972 (remember that?). A game, where there were 4, different colored, oil tankers (2"). You toss toss dice, and advance your ship through, the ice routes, picking up barrels of oil (which looked like, orange notebook paper, donuts ⭕), along the way. You'd stick them onto, the ship's smokestacks. Whoever possessed, the most disc's at the end, wins the game. I used to love, playing it!! But, the box itself had some information about, The Northwest Passage, and that's what introduced me, to this.
@koreycowan1976
@koreycowan1976 Рік тому
The mini series that was on the AMC channel about this expedition was AWSOME!
@vaclavholek4497
@vaclavholek4497 2 роки тому
I remember watching the National Geographic documentary when they found the bodies in the 1980s. I was a kid back then, and have always had an interest in the Franklin Expedition since then.
@DerpyPossum
@DerpyPossum 2 роки тому
I can’t be the only one thinking of that one Stan Rogers song, right?
@jenniferchin429
@jenniferchin429 5 місяців тому
Great presentation and case. I love learning about the old explorations of the arctic, and the hardships they faced. They showcase the indomitable human spirit of exploration and discovery.
@christyler6234
@christyler6234 2 роки тому
I don’t know why this popped up in my feed, but I’m glad I watched it. Subscribed immediately thereafter, look forward to more videos. Great work here.
@magsbulldog
@magsbulldog 2 роки тому
Great watch . I went to Orkney and and found out about John Rae which lead me here. Thanks for posting.
@TartanCatholic
@TartanCatholic 2 роки тому
Terrible how Dr John Rae was treated, I'm from Kirkwall.
@terrybardy2848
@terrybardy2848 3 роки тому
This is a very good video! Quite well presented and very interesting. Thank you! Great job! Bravo!
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
I truly appreciate the kind words, shipmate.
@stormcutter59
@stormcutter59 2 роки тому
Ever since I heard about this expedition it stayed with me for a long time. It's really haunting really. For what these men would have gone through to end up as they did hurts me deeply whenever I think about it. But I didn't know some new stuff you bring up here like the potential of a few men making it as far as 1858. To have survived that long I shudder to think of what they would have done to stay alive. I couldn't imagine the hardship. But it makes me wonder if maybe one or two of them might have actually made it and lived for a time.
@SolamenteVees
@SolamenteVees 2 роки тому
Fantastic video. The Terror was completely engrossing- highly recommended.
@tylera.2869
@tylera.2869 4 місяці тому
If you enjoy this story, I highly recommend playing The Pale Beyond. The story in the game is different, but the events are similar.
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 2 роки тому
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@Maritime_History
@Maritime_History 2 роки тому
Thank you for having uploaded this. Very informational.
@h.m.s.thunderchild8518
@h.m.s.thunderchild8518 2 роки тому
Vey, very well done lad. Exceptionally measured and not at all overblown for the sake of theatrics, views or likes. Many a channel could learn from this video.
@annikabjornson998
@annikabjornson998 Рік тому
The Terror is a fascinating book. A whole lot of fiction tossed in, but it’s a great read. I haven’t watched the show as the book was scary enough for me. And then there’s the monster too.
@JulikaJune
@JulikaJune 11 місяців тому
Hello 👋, it's my pleasure to connect with you on here. I'm originally from Brazil but currently living here in United States, Austin Texas. If you don't mind me asking, where are you from
@reggiegulle
@reggiegulle Рік тому
Hey, you mentioned "The Terror"! I loved that book so much and I also watched the TV series. I mean, even without the monster, the story would still be terrifying in my opinion.
@hammysauce
@hammysauce 2 роки тому
I was obsessed with this when I was in 3rd grade! Couldn't stop telling my mom about the cool book with the frozen mummies!
@samuelhavens4455
@samuelhavens4455 2 роки тому
Just found your channel. Can’t wait to watch more! So good.
@cameronabacan2016
@cameronabacan2016 3 роки тому
(For just one time I shall take the north-west passage...)
@littleferrhis
@littleferrhis 3 роки тому
To find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
Awesome song, but it makes you wonder if they'll ever find the man himself.
@operationcreation5583
@operationcreation5583 3 роки тому
Wow,such a great video, very informative and entertaining
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
Thanks for the support, shipmate.
@joyelizabethmellinger
@joyelizabethmellinger Рік тому
How am I only just finding this channel?? Wow, man. Great content. Incredibly well narrated. Glad I came across this. New subscriber, bell is rung. 👍💯
@scofab
@scofab 2 роки тому
A most excellent recounting, well done and thank you once again.
@timeladyshayde
@timeladyshayde 3 роки тому
Great video. I've shared it with the Erebus and Terror Facebook group. My only quibble is that you need to work on the music transitions as they're a bit choppy.
@MaritimeHorrors
@MaritimeHorrors 3 роки тому
Much obliged, shipmate. Very much appreciate the support and advice. I honestly need to work on expanding my audio library. Most of my videos are one song looped lol.
@tyrstead5872
@tyrstead5872 2 роки тому
Stan Rogers' northwest passage must be listened to after watching this.
@benisaten
@benisaten 2 роки тому
Really enjoying the channel, good work. Respects from 🇨🇦.
@joeomalley2835
@joeomalley2835 Рік тому
Informative video. I finished The Terror awhile back so I was interested in reading up and watching some videos on The Franklin Exploration.
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