The Math Problem With a $1 Million Prize for Solving

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@16jms
@16jms 2 роки тому
Fun Fact: The man who solved the Poincaré Conjecture, Grigori Jakowlewitsch Perelman, rejected the prize money and told the congratulatory committee to get lost because he just wanted to be left alone.
@sabersz
@sabersz 2 роки тому
I saw the video Count Dankula did on that "It's a million dollars man! Just take the money!!" 😂
@hoze1235
@hoze1235 2 роки тому
count dankula made a video on him
@MrPillowStudios
@MrPillowStudios 2 роки тому
@@sabersz Some things in life are so unbelievable. That you deny them.
@lool12366
@lool12366 2 роки тому
He returned the money because they didn't recognize another professor that did a lot of work in solving them.
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 2 роки тому
@@lool12366 Why didn't he just give the money to that other professor, then?
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 2 роки тому
me a computer science graduate: ah yes, my nightmares have returned
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 2 роки тому
Yes, comp theory was my least favorite course in computer science. My running joke in the course was to ask if the person the theorem or proof was named after had gone insane (they pretty much all had). For example, Alan Turing, Kurt Gödel, etc.
@lerquian1970
@lerquian1970 2 роки тому
It was a nightmare but at the same time pretty interesting, in particular the p=np problem. I don't know why there aren't more videos about this.
@Sparrowly1
@Sparrowly1 2 роки тому
Lmao I was thinking the same
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 2 роки тому
@@2011blueman I actually really enjoyed it but holy crap, those algorithm classes were some of the most difficult I took. I was always amazed by the solutions these people came up with and then I remember they did it decades ago... and now its taught in undergrad CS classes LOL. I was very fascinated by it all, but I could probably never come up with that stuff. the comp sci people of long ago were straight up geniuses and im here like...
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 2 роки тому
@@Mathguy363 lol my analysis of algorithms course was basically straight up math. we didnt write a single line of code for that... unless you wanted to for fun, which I did because im a nerd lol
@imperialpilot2164
@imperialpilot2164 2 роки тому
Just give me 3 flintstone gummies, I'll handle them.
@Potatoinator
@Potatoinator 2 роки тому
You'll overdose.
@DreamPhreak
@DreamPhreak 2 роки тому
You're a madman! You'll break yourself with that many flintstone gummies
@CryptikSpectre
@CryptikSpectre 2 роки тому
@@Potatoinator but before they do they'll solve it nah I'm kidding they will just die
@ARandomCanadian
@ARandomCanadian 2 роки тому
Nobody has ever survived that many before... are you sure you’re ready for this? To sacrifice your everyday life to fall into a flintstone gummy spiral? Sacrificing your life for a math problem, don’t get me wrong it’s brave, but your life will never be the same. Are you prepared for this?
@weebishusername9288
@weebishusername9288 2 роки тому
Take 3 and eat all your vegetables
@Kari.F.
@Kari.F. 2 роки тому
Yay, I'm about to become one million $ richer. I remember something about Paul having 10 apples and giving three of them to Mike, so I'll just take it from there and start working on this. Easy peasy!
@NuclearTopSpot
@NuclearTopSpot 2 роки тому
That's not a math textbook problem. Paul needs at least 4 carts of 20 pineapples. Now Mike wants to trade 6 peaches for 1/4 pineapple each and 9 of his pubic hairs for 1 pineapple each. How many Pineapples has Paul eaten in the meantime?
@alexiscandia7492
@alexiscandia7492 2 роки тому
@@NuclearTopSpot 2 1/2 pineapples. Unless you count the one in his ass. Then 3 1/2.
@mikebar42
@mikebar42 2 роки тому
I'll beat u to it
@notyourfriendlyneighbor2733
@notyourfriendlyneighbor2733 2 роки тому
Tell us how it goes
@mikebar42
@mikebar42 2 роки тому
@@notyourfriendlyneighbor2733 turns out p doesn't equal np 😤😅😭🤔🤣
@RodrigoBadin
@RodrigoBadin 2 роки тому
The thing is: If you had the formula you would earn way more money by solving the problems selling your services to solve rather than selling the formula for a million USD.
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 2 роки тому
You would have to play pretty stupid though, otherwise you would very likely give away how you proved it (or enough to deduce how to do so) and so you’d lose the advantage you have. If you’re smart enough to know how to solve one of those problems, you would very likely get a lot more money from others as a result, either through jobs or otherwise.
@TheStrongestBaka
@TheStrongestBaka 2 роки тому
But it's likely that the "formula" doesn't exist and a million dollars would be awarded to someone who proves that.
@user-cj2zt3zu1t
@user-cj2zt3zu1t 2 роки тому
@@TheStrongestBaka There's also the case where the formula exists, but just proving its existence (without finding the formula itself) will also give 1 million.
@Mexican00b
@Mexican00b 2 роки тому
@@TheStrongestBaka you cant prove a negative tho
@mrchezsandvich.4096
@mrchezsandvich.4096 2 роки тому
@@TheStrongestBaka cirno
@yonatanbeer3475
@yonatanbeer3475 2 роки тому
To be clear, even if we have a polynomial time algorithm which solves NP problems, it could still in practice be unhelpful, e.g. it could have constants greater than a googleplex or whatever and only be efficient for inconveniently large inputs.
@MABfan11
@MABfan11 2 роки тому
" e.g. it could have constants greater than a googleplex or whatever and only be efficient for inconveniently large inputs." *Googologists have entered the chat*
@neeneko
@neeneko 2 роки тому
heh. years ago I remember working on a problem like that. we had two possible algorithms. I was working on one that starts off really well but got exponentially worse as the dataset got larger. there was another that had a high setup cost (and expletive ton of RAM), but once you got everything cooked (constant+linear) put into memory (linear), the solution also became linear.
@f52_yeevy
@f52_yeevy 2 роки тому
I’m sorry that it’s unrelated, but I couldn’t help but notice the lick
@stardestroyer19
@stardestroyer19 2 роки тому
Also would the P=NP proof necessarily be constructive? If one could show that its possible to solve things in P time would it necessarily make it easier to find the algorithms? I understand that knowing that it's possible would be helpful but it wouldn't immediately resolve that issue.
@vojtechstrnad1
@vojtechstrnad1 2 роки тому
Or it could have a complexity of O(n^100), which is polynomial but not practical.
@stardestroyer19
@stardestroyer19 2 роки тому
> One of them has gotten significantly more attention and more failed attempts than the rest. *The Riemann Hypothesis would like to know your location*
@frederickm9823
@frederickm9823 2 роки тому
Thats what I thought too. Then I realized that the RH is probably not very suitable for HAI, since it might be difficult to explain in a simple way 😄
@stardestroyer19
@stardestroyer19 2 роки тому
@@frederickm9823 Oh it is, you'd have to talk about convergence, complex numbers, applications to number theory and a whole bunch of stuff that's difficult for someone without a maths or physical sciences background.
@frederickm9823
@frederickm9823 2 роки тому
@@stardestroyer19 Yeah. You can't really describe the "core problem" without explaining a lot of background stuff. As somebody who wrote his bachelor thesis about elliptic curves, I am very interested in the Birch Swinnerton-Dyer hypothesis, but man, if I had to explain it with simple words, I would fail miserably 😄
@PrestonFlanders
@PrestonFlanders 2 роки тому
I have been waiting for this comment
@stardestroyer19
@stardestroyer19 2 роки тому
@@frederickm9823 I know how it be man! I'm a PhD student in theoretical physics and somethings could take a long time to explain if you want to make sure people get the core idea of something without watering it down so much it becomes too simplified.
@HipyoTech
@HipyoTech 2 роки тому
Thanks for the callout... 0:08
@jeremoo
@jeremoo 2 роки тому
hey but now you have keyboards 😦👍
@Husqy
@Husqy 2 роки тому
lol nice
@Lhamb
@Lhamb 2 роки тому
hipyo tf you doin here
@Yamezzzz
@Yamezzzz 2 роки тому
A $3 million muffin is the exact opposite of a "very convoluted money laundering scheme". In fact it might be the least convoluted money laundering scheme of all time.
@vojtechstrnad1
@vojtechstrnad1 2 роки тому
Someone needs to try this and see if such a simple scheme can actually work.
@eldritchperfection213
@eldritchperfection213 2 роки тому
oh so what if I create a company which concept is to give money to people which i obtain from other companies and the people that watch me launder money. why does i have the impression someone already did that before
@kantpredict
@kantpredict 2 роки тому
Like a $1tn coin to avoid the debt ceiling simple.
@mastershooter64
@mastershooter64 Рік тому
@@vojtechstrnad1 it's called buying and selling art, they already do it. You ever hear of shitty paintings getting sold for millions of dollars? yeah...
@harrypotter5460
@harrypotter5460 2 роки тому
Fun fact: The man who solved the first Millennium Prize Problem turned down the $1,000,000 as well as the award, and later a Fields Medal. He then quit his job and went into seclusion. When approached by a writer in 2012, he stated “You are disturbing me. I am picking mushrooms.”
@harrypotter5460
@harrypotter5460 2 роки тому
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman
@hashxz
@hashxz 2 роки тому
Why do I feel like half as interesting son will make a video in 2069 titled "why did they 2020 Olympics happen in 2021"
@CinemaDemocratica
@CinemaDemocratica 2 роки тому
...Because Covid hadn't already killed enough people by the time 2021 came around. #FIFY
@dompedroii4656
@dompedroii4656 2 роки тому
Kkkkkkkk true
@LucasAnimacoes1
@LucasAnimacoes1 2 роки тому
@@dompedroii4656 Better not use the "brazilian laugh" in other languagues.
@hipato6838
@hipato6838 2 роки тому
@@LucasAnimacoes1 KKKKKKKKKKK
@LucasAnimacoes1
@LucasAnimacoes1 2 роки тому
@@hipato6838 Not again.
@PrestonFlanders
@PrestonFlanders 2 роки тому
“One of them has gotten significantly more attention and failed attempts to solve it than the rest - P vs NP” *Riemann: Hold my hypothesis*
@frankkobold
@frankkobold 2 роки тому
Well, I would say every math student was at one point trying to proof both, but at least p=np was also tried by some computer scientists^^
@Vaaaaadim
@Vaaaaadim 2 роки тому
@@frankkobold "but at least p=np was also tried by some computer scientists" guilty as charged
@jolly6537
@jolly6537 2 роки тому
@@frankkobold I (a CS student) can confirm I've tried to proof that P=NP and P!=NP and failed at both. I don't even know what the Riemann hypothesis is though :D
@pauraque
@pauraque 2 роки тому
Fedex: thx for solving the hardest problem in the world Me: np
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 2 роки тому
Gödelmmit
@nguyenduyphuc3924
@nguyenduyphuc3924 2 роки тому
*slow claps*
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 2 роки тому
This fkin guy right here.
@eclecticsoffy
@eclecticsoffy 2 роки тому
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter Your reply is incomplete
@thesnippa_x_killa5725
@thesnippa_x_killa5725 2 роки тому
I have a feeling that Sam wants us to solve this, so he can claim the money.
@tomx641
@tomx641 2 роки тому
$1m isn't that much. It's a lot of playstations, but it's not a lot of years of salaries for well qualified people, buildings etc.
@ethanl.1699
@ethanl.1699 2 роки тому
@@tomx641 if it’s not taxed, it will still give someone who makes 100k a year 10 years of salary considering their salaries are also not taxed
@tomx641
@tomx641 2 роки тому
@@ethanl.1699 It all depends on contractual terms, but I'm talking about Universities in general.
@ethanl.1699
@ethanl.1699 2 роки тому
@@tomx641 for a university professor, it’s still a few years of work saved, but yes, it’s nothing compared to a building lol
@tomx641
@tomx641 2 роки тому
@@ethanl.1699 University professors get grants for millions all the time and it lasts them hardly any time at all. No idea where the money actually goes, just that it doesn't seem to last long.
@60secondfinance81
@60secondfinance81 2 роки тому
Next video on Wendover Productions: The Logistics of Why You Should’ve Paid Attention in Math Class
@thetimebinder
@thetimebinder 2 роки тому
So, basically this video on how to survive The Cube ukposts.info/have/v-deo/kJuKqqVtim5jrXk.html
@marsgal42
@marsgal42 2 роки тому
I too assumed this would be about the Riemann Hypothesis. As a long-time computer nerd techie type I've followed P=NP for a long time.
@zunaidparker
@zunaidparker 2 роки тому
After the intro I thought for SURE we'd be talking about the Riemann Hypothesis. Not sure if P=NP is more studied than RH.
@vojtechstrnad1
@vojtechstrnad1 2 роки тому
Well arguably P vs NP is the most accessible of the problems, unlike RH which uses complex analysis and the other five which I barely know anything about. But yeah, if he ever makes a video on another one of the problems, it will be the Riemann hypothesis.
@zunaidparker
@zunaidparker 2 роки тому
@@vojtechstrnad1 When he does I'll click on it so fast!
@poisonpotato1
@poisonpotato1 2 роки тому
Me too. The only ones I somewhat heard of was P vs NP, Navier Stokes and the RH
@user-semenar
@user-semenar 2 роки тому
The proofs that P=NP (or P=/=NP) are appearing several times per month nowadays. It might be not studied more, but it certainly attracts a lot of attention.
@so-ares
@so-ares 2 роки тому
It would make more sense if the promo code "half" gave 50% off...
@mikastrae
@mikastrae 2 роки тому
missed opportunity to say 15% as interesting, tbh
@Lilgugger3712
@Lilgugger3712 2 роки тому
Its supposed to make money not sense dear
@sebastiane7556
@sebastiane7556 2 роки тому
Short addition: a problem in P does not have to be "easy" or solvable in a fast way. Let's say I would find an algorithm for the TSP problem with a constant runtime of hundred years. That would be O(1) and in P, but probably wouldn't help me to hack any bank account.
@JanStrojil
@JanStrojil 2 роки тому
That is a very good point. I also find it strange that most videos on P=NP seem to equate proof that P=NP with breaking encryption. Proving that a solution exists does not necessarily lead you to that solution, or does it? So knowing that a polynomial solution exists may put the encryption on shaky grounds but it will not magically make it not work overnight. Someone still has to find that solution.
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian 2 роки тому
Also, one could have a proof that P = NP that is not constructive. So, contrary to what is said at 1:50, just proving equivalence does not necessarily lead to new algorithms. And, even if it did, it's entirely possible that an algorithm in P has such a huge overhead that it's slower than a corresponding algorithm in NP for any input we might be interested in. This entire video is riddled with mistakes.
@YannickJadoul
@YannickJadoul 2 роки тому
Yes, but the thing is: an actual algorithm would to some degree only be a side note. Breaking this exponential barrier is much more significant in itself. Any polynomial algorithm (even the one with a enormous exponent or huge constant inside the big-O) would still exploit some kind of non-trivial structure and would most likely mean there would be some insight into this class of problems. So very likely, even if that's the case, it's the crack in the problem that opens up a whole range of new research that will in all likelihood bring down the polynomial's constants and exponents. But I also don't think you can find lots of experts that believe this would be the case. As far as I know, it is believed that it's much more likely that P != NP.
@vojtechstrnad1
@vojtechstrnad1 2 роки тому
It might be a bit confusing to suggest there could exist a constant time algorithm for the TSP. Trivially it's at least O(n).
@Vaaaaadim
@Vaaaaadim 2 роки тому
@@JanStrojil "Proving that a solution exists does not necessarily lead you to that solution, or does it?" It doesn't, your understanding is certainly correct. "So knowing that a polynomial solution exists may put the encryption on shaky grounds but it will not magically make it not work overnight" Very well phrased. More to the point, simply knowing the answer(yes or no) to P=NP is not much better than pretending you know the answer, it would only tell you whether or not your attempts at a proof for or against are futile or not.
@SanderDoesThings
@SanderDoesThings 2 роки тому
The math problem my mom expects me to solve after watching the 3 minute video
@boium.
@boium. 2 роки тому
0:56 Oh boy, I'm a math student and I seriously tought that when you said one has gotten more attention than the rest, that you were going to talk about the Riemann Hypothesis. Would have loved an episode about that but P vs. NP is also a good one.
@tetsi0815
@tetsi0815 2 роки тому
The core of P=?=NP is way easier to explain in like 5 minutes than Riemann. :-)
@tyelerhiggins300
@tyelerhiggins300 2 роки тому
The whole calculator part is exactly what I have to go through when I tell my students about these problems. One of my students was convinced that they found a counterexample to Goldbach's conjecture (not one of these, but still an open problen) when I couldn't immediately tell them 2 primes that sum to 1,000,000.
@calvinbouroughproductions8321
@calvinbouroughproductions8321 2 роки тому
The "Hey, you want to get rich quick" with the guy standing there with his finger at the beginning sounded like an advertisement for Honey.
@lerquian1970
@lerquian1970 2 роки тому
The interesting thing is that the opposite hasn't been proved (although is the same question tho). We can't prove they're the same, but we can't prove they're different things either.
@Danielle_1234
@Danielle_1234 2 роки тому
Yep. I'm pretty sure P != NP but don't know how to prove it. Maybe going over the axioms of the system questioning its provability incompleteness theorem style or something in that ballpark.
@bulgaria9003
@bulgaria9003 2 роки тому
We did it. The "Who Wants to Be A Millionaire?" in math is here.
@GURken
@GURken 2 роки тому
Perelman clearly didn't want to.
@stardestroyer19
@stardestroyer19 2 роки тому
@@GURken Perelman is a russian wizard. He has no need for earthly goods.
@janno288
@janno288 2 роки тому
This isn't going to fix your dept greece. (I'm greek myself so dont start ww3 here)
@weebishusername9288
@weebishusername9288 2 роки тому
@@GURken "I'm gardening"
@bulgaria9003
@bulgaria9003 2 роки тому
@@janno288 wow I'm not the only Greek youtuber...
@PCGeines
@PCGeines 2 роки тому
I thought a way to solve the P-NP conjecture. Unfortunately, this comment bar is to small for writing it in.
@Xontaro
@Xontaro 2 роки тому
Fermat, is this you?
@TechKidShazil
@TechKidShazil 2 роки тому
Classic Fermat😂
@Sauce042
@Sauce042 2 роки тому
Whose Fermat?
@AbiGail-ok7fc
@AbiGail-ok7fc 2 роки тому
You get the reward for settling the P =?= NP problem; winning it doesn't have to mean that P = NP. Furthermore, even if you prove that P = NP doesn't imply you have a non-exponential algorithm for NP problem. (Having such an algorithm of course means P = NP, but the reverse doesn't). (Also, an algorithm which takes n^1000000 steps technically is in P, but in practice, that won't give us efficient algorithms)
@Caesim9
@Caesim9 2 роки тому
How again does P=NP not imply a polynomial algorithm for all NP problems? I mean of course there may be non-constructive proofs but in theory there should be algorithms.
@NerdTheBox
@NerdTheBox 2 роки тому
@@Caesim9 I think Abi's saying that it's possible to prove that P = NP without actually coming up with a formula for an NP problem
@Vaaaaadim
@Vaaaaadim 2 роки тому
@@NerdTheBox indeed, a --"nonconstructive proof" would be accepted-- just noticed the first reply literally said non-constructive proof oopsie
@Vaaaaadim
@Vaaaaadim 2 роки тому
Actually, I see we're all latched onto that idea of non-constructive proofs being a thing. I think @Caesim9 is saying, regarding the statement: "Having such an algorithm of course means P = NP, but the reverse doesn't" he interpreted it to imply "even if P=NP that doesn't mean a non-exponential algorithm exists", which would be wrong, its definitely the case that if P=NP then such an algorithm does indeed exist.
@Think_Inc
@Think_Inc 2 роки тому
Imma pretend I understand that.
@mmay3315
@mmay3315 2 роки тому
2:51 this graph also applies to other activities
@slamwall9057
@slamwall9057 2 роки тому
Does P = NP? Only if P is equal to zero or if N is equal to one
@xplayerfireone
@xplayerfireone 2 роки тому
Or P is 1 and N is also 1
@jamcdonald120
@jamcdonald120 2 роки тому
0:25 I think you forgot the part about having no skills attatched to your degree
@jonathanmatthews8928
@jonathanmatthews8928 2 роки тому
Your promo code “HALF” doesn’t work. The checkout process says “The provided code is invalid.”
@TheTransitmtl
@TheTransitmtl 2 роки тому
Incidentally it's because the encryption was longer to solve that to verify
@LudwiQ6
@LudwiQ6 2 роки тому
maybe it applied automatically and now you try to apply the second time, MAYBE
@daniel.harvey
@daniel.harvey 2 роки тому
Does not work for me either and no there is no discount already applied
@mastercraft117
@mastercraft117 2 роки тому
Try using the code WHOLE
@CinemaDemocratica
@CinemaDemocratica 2 роки тому
I don't fail to appreciate the smug humour that this has generated, but it's also a quiet scandal and merits some sort of response. Presumably Sam can be bothered to give a shit when his promo codes don't work, but ... it would sure be nice to know for sure.
@michadmochowski1246
@michadmochowski1246 2 роки тому
Literal utopia, we all know it's too good to be possible, but good luck proving that as an abstract
@Nancy3
@Nancy3 2 роки тому
Why can't math grow up so it could solve it's own problems?
@AltayHunter
@AltayHunter 2 роки тому
3:20 Unfortunately the problem described here is not equivalent to the traveling salesman problem, and actually could be solved with a greedy algorithm within polynomial time. The mistake in the video is that the points are labeled in a particular order and the difficulty is being described as finding the streets to take to traverse them in that order. This is equivalent to graph traversal and can be solved in linear time using the A* search algorithm. The key point that makes traveling salesman an NP-hard problem is that you're not given a particular order to traverse the nodes. Checking every possible permutation of the nodes is what makes it explode into factorial time.
@minecrafter0505
@minecrafter0505 2 роки тому
At 1:26 I took my TI-84 plus into my hand and silently whispered "He didn't mean it!"
@mohammedbelgoumri
@mohammedbelgoumri 2 роки тому
2:18 It's Actually all the problems that can be solved in polynomial time, not those whose solution time is not exponential. If the time complexity of a problem were say 2^sqrt(n), then it would satisfy your definition because it grows slower than all exponentials. But it would still not be in P since it grows faster than all polynomials.
@harrypotter5460
@harrypotter5460 2 роки тому
Genuinely thought you were gonna talk about the Riemann Hypothesis since that problem is even more studied than P vs NP.
@backdoorgate
@backdoorgate 2 роки тому
The ad that played before the video just fit perfect
@Praharshkstudios
@Praharshkstudios 2 роки тому
"-------, Found out why the box has a band-aid," lol
@Shawn_Carley
@Shawn_Carley 2 роки тому
My brother was working on this problem back in high school (~2005). He had his work copy written so as to date it. I have no idea how close he came to solving, because none of us knew what tf he was talking about lol. Will have to bring it up with him the next time we’re together
@henryginn7490
@henryginn7490 2 роки тому
Spoiler alert: not close at all. Still, it’s nice to have a crack at problems even if they are famously unsolved by the greatest minds in the field of maths, it can still be an interesting experience and you’ll learn something probably
@_.Infinity._
@_.Infinity._ 2 роки тому
@@henryginn7490 We don't really know, I mean the great minds were not able to solve Poincare conjecture as well, but now it is solved. But yeah, the chances that he wasn't able to solve it are higher.
@sunvieightmaster88
@sunvieightmaster88 2 роки тому
This is amazing.
@kkmac7247
@kkmac7247 2 роки тому
This is amazing.
@albineriksson2667
@albineriksson2667 2 роки тому
@@kkmac7247 you are amazing
@albineriksson2667
@albineriksson2667 2 роки тому
Will you marry me ?
@albineriksson2667
@albineriksson2667 2 роки тому
Please
@cszulewski
@cszulewski 2 роки тому
Smells like desperation in here
@KarlFrederick19
@KarlFrederick19 2 роки тому
Therapist: "Stock Footage Anonymous Hacker Guy can't hurt you" Stock Footage Anonymous Hacker Guy: 4:04
@joshuazelinsky5213
@joshuazelinsky5213 2 роки тому
I really like that right after you note about people catching all the mistakes you are about to make, you say that P is things which can be solved in time which is not exponential. But this isn't the same as being polynomial. There are things which have time complexity which is worse than polynomial but still not exponential. For example, the best known algorithm for solving graph isomorphism has this level of intermediate complexity time. But well done video anyways! (Also we do have algorithms for traveling salesperson problem that are better than brute force checking everything. But the savings for it aren't that great.)
@YannisHalliwell
@YannisHalliwell 2 роки тому
i watch these when im high and it always fades into commercial in a very sneaky way.. i kinda love it
@JPTQJR
@JPTQJR 2 роки тому
Expected a Navier-Stokes rundown and got an N = NP instead Still loved it nonetheless
@yonatanbeer3475
@yonatanbeer3475 2 роки тому
I expected Reimann Zeta, that's the millennium problem that seems to get the most attention
@bane2201
@bane2201 2 роки тому
Man, I'd be shocked if HAI could figure out the question. Not because I think he's stupid - I'm a senior in a Math/CS double major, and I can't figure out the question.
@harrisonclark3799
@harrisonclark3799 2 роки тому
2:52 they definitely knew what they were doing with the labels on that graph
@minuspi8372
@minuspi8372 2 роки тому
2:06 Called me out lol
@HPSshorts
@HPSshorts 2 роки тому
Hardest problems to solve When will be another bricks video
@pockpock6382
@pockpock6382 2 роки тому
"Half" should be a 50% off promo code, change my mind.
@bane2201
@bane2201 2 роки тому
Finally a topic I knew about before an HAI video! Also, in case anyone is wondering why the problems are so difficult to discuss - I'm a senior in a Math/CS double major, and I can only fully understand what 2 of the 7 problems are even asking. I'd bet a lot that the majority of math *professors* can't understand more than 4 of the statements.
@ggandalff
@ggandalff 2 роки тому
Nice video, but actually, the TSP is NP-hard but not NP-complete. It only becomes NP-complete when you turn it into a decision problem, eg "Is there a route that costs less than X?", which is easily verifiable inP time (in the original problem, the only way to verify if the route that you have is the shortest one is by computing every other route) Correction: I messed up, I somehow missed that the way you phrased it was the decision problem, so It's all good
@joshuazelinsky5213
@joshuazelinsky5213 2 роки тому
They did phrase it in terms of whether or not it was shorter than a specific distance, so they are all good.
@ggandalff
@ggandalff 2 роки тому
@@joshuazelinsky5213 You are right, I somehow missed the way they phrased it
@bhzucker
@bhzucker 2 роки тому
Sam: Are you in crushing student debt due to a predatory poverty cycle brought on by late-stage capitalism? Also Sam: Use this code to get 15% off expensive cookware Me, a millennial: He gets us 🥰 take my money
@CypressJuice
@CypressJuice 2 роки тому
Am I the only one who actually doesn't want to join my friends at the "P" party....? That's just nasty....
@nanoder7te
@nanoder7te 2 роки тому
As a computer science student i have to complimet you! Awsome 6 minute summary of a topic, i would regard as one of my hardest during my bachlelor degree!
@elmacho2789
@elmacho2789 2 роки тому
I was gonna quote that super long sentence at the beginning of the video and then make fun of it. But it’s literally so long to quote. I just can’t. 😂
@LakkiTunrung
@LakkiTunrung 2 роки тому
_Hey, psst-do you want to get rich quick? Have you exhausted all the other get-rich-quick schemes on the internet?_ _Do you have absolutely no marketable skills because you pursued a degree that became obsolete shortly after graduation due to an unstable and rapidly shifting job market, which then ironically drove you into crushing student-loan debt that compounded with the pressures of late-stage capitalism to create a predatory cycle of poverty that has ultimately forced you to desperately scrape the internet for schemes to support yourself financially?_
@crustbukkit
@crustbukkit 2 роки тому
I would like to get rich quick, this is why I chose to become a painting major. Never mind u said math.
@justarandomf-4gphantom170
@justarandomf-4gphantom170 2 роки тому
No. Please go into German politics.
@youngrex7694
@youngrex7694 2 роки тому
@hi there What happing in German politics, aren’t y’all rank high for the least corrupt governments
@Vaaaaadim
@Vaaaaadim 2 роки тому
@@youngrex7694 The joke is a reference to the fact that Hitler wanted to become a professional artist but he failed the entrance exams to some art institution.
@tylerlackey1175
@tylerlackey1175 2 роки тому
The only video without shilling in the first 10 seconds has a 20 second long rant written by a redditor
@mathiew_
@mathiew_ 2 роки тому
5:19 I gotta be honest, that's the smoothest progression I've ever heard.
@husandeep1826
@husandeep1826 2 роки тому
0:01 man went rapping 😂
@jorns6678
@jorns6678 2 роки тому
Even this knife you will replace after a year. Learn how to sharpen one, and your 20 dollar knife will last a long time
@aakla
@aakla 2 роки тому
So P would be a 20% tip NP would be a 20% that took the tip into account of the total so it would keep increasing,?
@bane2201
@bane2201 2 роки тому
I'll try to explain it - HAI didn't do that well. In these examples, I'll call the number of items X. P would be "I ordered these specific X items in the menu. How much is a 15% tip?". NP would be "My bill from yesterday had the total of $123.45, but that seems high. I forgot what items I ordered, but I know the menu has X items and I ordered 5. Are there any 5 items from the menu add to $123.45?" The first problem requires adding X numbers - you can do that in X time units. The second problem doesn't have a "easy" solution - the best known solution takes 2^(XK) time units. K is a constant number you shouldn't care about here - the point is that each time you put another item on the menu, the number of units goes up a bunch more than it does in the first case.
@a_guy7723
@a_guy7723 2 роки тому
5:30 swiss army pocket knife : amateurs
@precumming
@precumming 2 роки тому
The prize isn’t for solving that P=NP it’s for solving P=NP. Slight difference, the first is asking to show it to be true, the last is asking to show if it is true or false. P=NP probably isn’t true so my point is that if you get the million dollars you’ll be able to put it in your bank.
@rpb4865
@rpb4865 2 роки тому
Holy hell! That 4 knives set costs same as my monthly salary here in India 😂
@drawdo2905
@drawdo2905 2 роки тому
Sam sounds like he solved this equation.
@MafiaCow01
@MafiaCow01 2 роки тому
Now I have context for that one Elementary episode.
@branpod
@branpod 2 роки тому
Teacher: the test will be easy The test:
@Potato-km4zg
@Potato-km4zg 2 роки тому
P loses because he's alone and NP is two so basically its a 1v2. It's been a while where my 1 million?
@NoodleProductions
@NoodleProductions 2 роки тому
But what if P is Dream?
@Potato-km4zg
@Potato-km4zg 2 роки тому
@@NoodleProductions He wins for a while then people finds out he used pvp cheats so he loses. Wins at the start but at the long run he losses.
@Rozenkrantzz
@Rozenkrantzz 2 роки тому
Your traveling salesman example is incorrect. That's an NP-Hard problem, not NP.
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 2 роки тому
I was going to say that the explanation didn’t make sense to me!
@lore9625
@lore9625 2 роки тому
His formulation was a decisional problem so it's NP. Also, "your"
@Praharshkstudios
@Praharshkstudios 2 роки тому
Alright. I need a lot and I mean A *LOT* of pens and paper. Oh, and also like maybe 4000 pieces of mango flavored jelly?
@korosheht5446
@korosheht5446 2 роки тому
Me who fell asleep in the middle of the video then woke up in 5:00 : how tf did math problem became cooking problem
@ultraviolet.catastrophe
@ultraviolet.catastrophe 2 роки тому
To clarify, the P versus NP problem is a computer science problem, not a mathematical problem.
@1vader
@1vader 2 роки тому
Well, it's theoretical computer science which is pretty much just a branch of mathematics.
@Xontaro
@Xontaro 2 роки тому
P vs NP is a problem in theoretical computer science, which can be viewed both as a subset of computer science and mathematics.
@ultraviolet.catastrophe
@ultraviolet.catastrophe 2 роки тому
@@1vader "Pretty much". That's right. In another words, "very nearly". The P vs NP problem is not an entirely mathematical problem. It's close, but it doesn't cut it. That honor belongs to the Riemann Hypothesis.
@Vaaaaadim
@Vaaaaadim 2 роки тому
@@ultraviolet.catastrophe A solution to P=NP would be a mathematical proof. I don't see why it wouldn't count as an entirely mathematical problem.
@ultraviolet.catastrophe
@ultraviolet.catastrophe 2 роки тому
@@Vaaaaadim If P=NP will be a mathematical solution, what about P!=NP?
@MikhailFederov
@MikhailFederov 2 роки тому
I know the scriptwriter wrote this by creating their own ELI5 for themselves, but much of the language used in this video is extremely misleading and wrought with technicalities.
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 2 роки тому
2:08, they knew we'd come and point out mistakes LOLOL
@Alexc99xd
@Alexc99xd Рік тому
One of the best moments in my cs class was when our lecturer showed how you can change one NP problem into another (reduction). it's basically saying you show that problem X is at least as hard as problem Y (which you know is NP) so X is at least NP. Iirc he showed 3 SAT (NP problem) and reduced to Traveling salesman
@kicking222
@kicking222 2 роки тому
I knew what the video was going to be about just from the title, and I STILL don't fully understand it... but you certainly helped make it easier.
@pinnedcomment8614
@pinnedcomment8614 2 роки тому
Today I learned: The probability of a blue lobster existing is widely touted as being one in two million.
@pinnedcomment8614
@pinnedcomment8614 2 роки тому
Crazy Fact: In 2006, a Coca-Cola employee offered to sell Coca-Cola secrets to Pepsi. Pepsi responded by notifying Coca-Cola.
@KHTangent
@KHTangent 2 роки тому
I feel called out (2:09) But I did not notice any mistakes at all, good job on this one :)
@hi__im_zack4890
@hi__im_zack4890 2 роки тому
You got me, I'm just here to point out all the mistekas 2:10. Well, more of a clarification. The P?=NP problem refers to a specific type of problem, decision problems. That is any problem that can be answered with a yes or no. So, using the traveling salesperson problem as an example the decision problem would be: does there exist a path less than or equal to some given value? For sudoku, the decision problem would be: is a given sudoku layout solvable? Solving these doesn't necessarily mean we would get the solution, just the yes or no answer. As mentioned in the video these are both in NP as they are pretty easy to verify by giving the solution. A lot of problems can be expressed as a decision problem, but a lot can not be. The problems that can't be, like for example playing/winning a chess game would not become easily solvable if P was equal to NP. Well actually the problems we care about are: For a map with n stops, does there exist a TSP path less than or equal to some given value? and: given an nxn sudoku problem, is it solvable? This is because, as you mentioned at the begging, we care about how much the time increase relative to the problem size. Other than that, this was a pretty decent description of the P?=NP problem for only taking like 5 mins. It's funny, this problem is the easiest of the 7 problems to understand what the problem is saying, but that doesn't mean it isn't complicated. I mean, after all, it hasn't been solved while being one of the most attempted problems. The main difference between this problem and other complicated math problems is that for theoretical computer science, which is what field the problem is in, we just abstract out all of the complicated symbals.
@panagiotischristo
@panagiotischristo 2 роки тому
I like the knife segment...thanks. As well great video
@lucearne1849
@lucearne1849 2 роки тому
"Thanks for solving the hardest problem in the world." Me : *No need to Thank me*
@Mutxarra
@Mutxarra 2 роки тому
Wasn't expecting to see Barcelona appear on minute 3:10. Especially just the place where I used to live. Thanks for the surprise, HaI!
@henrytang2203
@henrytang2203 Рік тому
You've got a better shot at winning the lottery than cracking these maths puzzles.
@moosesandmeese969
@moosesandmeese969 2 роки тому
So these problems are like encryption functions. SHA256(data, encryption key) outputs encrypted data It's easily verifiable when you have the encryption key, but requires an infeasible amount of computing power to derive the original data or the encryption key just from the output, even though the SHA256 algorithm is public information. There's no actual proof that you can't derive the input just from the output, but SHA256 is used everywhere for online encryption because no one has ever been able to derive an input just from a given output. Once super processors become mainstream, SHA256 might be broken, but just by increasing the number of bits of the encryption keys, the problem requires exponentially more computing power to crack, something that even super processors can't keep up with. This is also how cryptocurrencies work. Transactions use SHA256 with the input data being the history of transactions up to that point, generate a random output and mining computers guess and check millions of encryption keys with the SHA256 algorithm until they find an encryption key that gives that output, at which point the transaction is verified. Because it's SHA256, it's completely infeasible to try to pull off fraudulent transactions
@redbard4300
@redbard4300 2 роки тому
This is mentioned in cyberpunk settings if I remember correctly, shadowrun had something like this
@DaniMartVtbr
@DaniMartVtbr 2 роки тому
2:53 Traveling Salesman Problem, I think you missed an obvious detail - three points is a triangle. No-matter-what it has a fourth "center point", therefore achieving that interior-position is more important than any of the exterior-positions. A simple way to thinking about it is with playing Chess, jumping with a White Knight to any of 3 Black Pawns "L-triangularly", being it's not a straight line but it is still equally reaching; *assuming the variable positions of the exterior problem is unchanging relative to its interior mechanics, simply doubling-back to and from halfway as repeatedly requiring is a method of gross efficiency to solving the defined whole at a time!* So I should argue that NP = 1/2P x3 for a triangular configuration. Upgrade it to a hexagonal configuration, and it would be (NP = 1/2P x3) x6, or, NP = 1/2P x6, and so on, so there may be a Fractal connection? If Square then x4, if Pentagram then x5, and so forth. In any case it seems that the complexity of the external defines the repetitiveness of meeting it halfway at center, infinitely expandable outwards or inwards as any scale may require. - Daniel Nicolas Martin, Windsor Ontario Canada, April 25 of 2022. Since I'm not a mathematician I don't seem to get fair representation to participate in the challenge, so using UKposts will have to suffice?
@saucylegs
@saucylegs 2 роки тому
Woah, just a few days ago I was browsing Wikipedia and got to the article about this. I didn’t totally understand it so, thanks for this video
@oscarsusan3834
@oscarsusan3834 2 роки тому
The Italians tried to understand this problem for logistics purposes by going to India. They understood that Dabbawallas (Delivery people for home made food - eg:to a family members work ) had a 99% on time delivery and distribution logistics (extraordinarily efficient ) day in ,day out, passing through multiple hub distribution points in a crowded city of 10 million . Minimalistic symbology (as a lot of Dabbawallas can’t read) yet everything got there and everyone gets paid per delivery every single day at the end of the shift. Couldn’t work it out after computing the algorithms and applying want they “learnt”.The issues just became exponentially harder.
@milfschnitteausdemkuhlrega7015
@milfschnitteausdemkuhlrega7015 2 роки тому
0:20 Yes!
@eetuthereindeer6671
@eetuthereindeer6671 2 роки тому
Sounds interesting and i would want to try solving it but i didn't even understand your simplified version of the question so i dont think i will
@tysoncook5152
@tysoncook5152 2 роки тому
5:22 "Found out why the box includes a bandaid"
@spoolin55psi
@spoolin55psi 11 місяців тому
I feel a tweaker is likely to solve this. They stay awake for a long time and are laser focused on something as long as they are not around flash lights or power cords😂
@themanofquagga
@themanofquagga 2 роки тому
Wasn't expecting that opening, but y'know I'll take it
@NathansWargames
@NathansWargames Рік тому
I didn't think I'd be listening/looking at P problems for about another 30 years.
@atzuras
@atzuras 2 роки тому
It's nice you used a map of Barcelona and marked the route from my home to the comic shop
@dannypipewrench533
@dannypipewrench533 Рік тому
1:26 Humorously enough, I actually have my TI-84 Plus sitting next to me right now.
@lamenwatch1877
@lamenwatch1877 2 роки тому
You should talk about the Collatz Conjecture.
@MagoLP
@MagoLP 2 роки тому
Your visualization of the travelling salesman problem actually shows the problem of finding the shortest distance between two vertices in a graph, which is solvable in polynomial time. The distance between each pair of points is given. The problem is to find the order in which the points shall be visited.
@Vaaaaadim
@Vaaaaadim 2 роки тому
I disagree. It doesn't show the problem of finding the shortest distance between two vertices in a graph. The examples shown in the visualization do go through all of the destinations. And though the examples shown in the visualizations mostly start at 1, go to 2, then 3(through varying routes), one of them at 3:29 does show something else: 1,3,2 That being said, its still not a great variety of example routes, and the parts of the routes between points can be easily computed with Dijkstra or A*, and the example is too small, and also it still doesn't visualize the traveling salesman problem. Setting aside the fact that all the example routes started at 1, what's visualized in the video is more like: Given a set of vertices, and a set of destinations which is a subset of those vertices, is there a route visiting all destinations less than a given length?
@MagoLP
@MagoLP 2 роки тому
@@Vaaaaadim Sorry, I missed the one route that goes to 3 first and then to 2, while like 10 others go from 1 to 2 to 3... And none of them goes back to the start, even though the definition requires a complete route through all points and back to the start.
@Vaaaaadim
@Vaaaaadim 2 роки тому
@@MagoLP oh ya lol, that too, has to come back to the starting point
@insayno9959
@insayno9959 2 роки тому
You know full well that the HAI team saw *that* meme and didn't get it, resulting in some research and the subsequent creation of this video.
@Vaaaaadim
@Vaaaaadim 2 роки тому
which meme?
@caspermadlener4191
@caspermadlener4191 2 роки тому
There is also another problem with a prize of $1,000,000. It is called Beal's conjecture. The problem asks whether or not there exists three coprime natural numbers a,b,c such that aˣ+bʸ=cᶻ, when x,y,z are all at least 3.
@vrclckd-zz3pv
@vrclckd-zz3pv 2 роки тому
Wasn't that solved? I thought numberphile did a video on it.
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