When a bad police officer is found out, he should be dealt with, not coddled, not retired with benefits. Respect cannot be expected while the code of silence is maintained.

I have to admit that when he started I thought he would be just another self-serving advocate for law enforcement. But after listening to his entire presentation, I realize there is a lot more to what we see and hear on the news than I originally thought. This was, to say the leas,t an eye-opening and thought provoking presentation.

This guy ABSOLUTELY took the words RIGHT out of my mouth! The only thing that I would add is what I've been saying for years which is...EDUCATE THE PUBLIC about ALL police decisions and actions! If skilled and experienced police officers with statistical information and facts will not educate citizens, then citizens WILL make up their own "facts."

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 03:09 🚫 "No comment" can erode trust between law enforcement and the community when used after officer-involved shootings. It can be perceived as a cover-up. 06:05 🔫 Police use of force, especially shootings, is statistically rare, accounting for less than 1% of interactions between law enforcement and the public. 09:05 🚶‍♂️ Unarmed individuals can pose a deadly threat to law enforcement officers, emphasizing the importance of understanding action, reaction time, and the element of surprise. 15:34 📹 Body-worn cameras have limitations in capturing the full three-dimensional reality of a situation, and they don't convey the officer's emotional experience or perception. 17:08 💬 Growing courage within law enforcement to provide factual information and building relationships with communities through open communication and education is essential in addressing public concerns about use-of-force incidents. Made with HARPA AI

My dad, an officer of 20ish years said “no comment” is the worst thing you can say. High level LE officials have to be less like politicians and more like, well, cops

Communication with the truth is a good step.

The officer in these cases is a potential defendant. As such he/she should not speak to law enforcement without a lawyer. It’s a lesson we as citizens should learn from them “DON’T TALK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT”. Where I agree 100% is that police departments shouldn’t have a different standard in communication for their officers that’s different from the public.

Part of the problem, is that the public cannot trust the police to also submit to the law and professional standards. When a police officer kills unjustly, when a police officer lies about the law, when a police officer goes beyond their remit and attacks civil liberties, when a police officer escalate violence... this breeds distrust of the officer involved. But when these same actions are not punished, this breeds distrust of the policing systems ability to hold themselves to account.

WOW. I had an entire book of a response posted here. Until the video ended. I was forced to delete the comment in full. lol I am sharing this. We have issues between police and civilians where I live. Many of us civilians NEED to listen to what this man is saying.

Thank you for this. Too many people in our society go on their feelings to form their opinion without knowing and experiencing what they are giving their opinion on. This video brings education to those who truly want it and are open minded enough to accept it..

Pamela - Stats do not tell the whole story - not by a long shot. You may think our jobs are "not that dangerous", but the statistics do not include all the times bad guys attempt to attack or kill officers but are unsuccessful. This information is not collected - or at least not accurately. It is just part of our daily work at most departments. But I assure you, being physically attacked by a strong motivated attacker, or someone trying to stab you with a knife or holding a gun on you - is definitely dangerous. We are not bulletproof - our vests cover only a small area of our bodies - not our heads and necks or lower torso or arms and legs, and are only "bullet resistant" at best. People who are armed but their weapons hidden rarely admit it. I have personally disarmed many more"unarmed"assailants than those who admitted they were armed. The distance you must stand from a person to prevent a knife attack is not a distance you can conduct conversation or normal business at. Rules and regulations, and public outcry without an understanding of what we experience, cause most officers to wait too long rather than be eager to pull the trigger, and it is often just luck - the bad guy decides not to utilize their position of advantage that time - that prevents most officers from being badly injured or killed. Most officers are not trigger happy, and pride ourselves on our mental and verbal skills. But cops contact a staggering amount of people in our careers, and despite all the successes with verbal persuasion, after we have guns and knives, axes and hammers wielded, gasoline or chemicals thrown on, and are lied to on a regular basis, we learn caution - we are not required to suffer agonizing injuries or die. Despite the image of the donut munching cop, most officers work hard to stay in good physical condition, but more officers are retired involuntarily on disability from work related injuries than retire like other people. Officers are permitted to retire earlier than other people because it is recognized that the physical demands of this job - fighting with people, faster reaction times, etc. eventually overtake the advantages of experience. Until you have walked in my shoes, please do not believe youv know what my job involves, or how I should do my job, based on reading articles or statistics .

Very insightful and relevant. Great video, Mr. Willis.

This man did an excellent job showing people what I could never describe with words about my life as a police officer. It’s so hard to even get my own family to understand these things about my work.

Not so easy is it….. Fascinating.

Great speaker, he knows what is needed is communication between law enforcement and the community. Bravo the police are supposed to be working with the community, not against the community I believe a lot of problems could be solved with both with the use of communication.

Love this video!!

As a law enforcement officer I can tell you everything Brian said is true. He tried to give you an understanding of some of what we experience and the reality of confrontations. The number of people killed by cops is extremely small compared to the number of people killed by non law enforcement people, and almost infinitesimal compared to the number of incidents in which cops were attacked by other people and engaged in a life or death struggle. Most of us receive good training, many of us send ourselves to extra training. But we are,after all, only people ourselves. Due to shrinking budgets, most of us work without a partner, and in most of the U.S. outside of big cities, most officers work without back-up close enough to respond in time to help in the time it takes for a life or death struggle to be over. In the rural U.S., many cops are the only person on duty in their area. Our attackers know this. We face multiple assailants, stronger assailants, people better armed than we are, mentally unbalanced people - but not enough to be institutionalized, on medication -but choosing not to take it, in the familiar circumstances of their homes or neighborhoods, with the element of surprise on their side, action being faster than reaction. How often does this happen? Unfortunately, it happens very frequently. The average person never hears about all these incidents in which officers prevailed against all odds, because this does not make sensational news coverage - you only hear about the very, very few incidents in which we had to use deadly force. Between sensational news coverage and the unreality of tv and movies (even 'Cops' takes days of shooting in multiple cities and condenses it down to the most sensational minutes) - people are led to believe we are thugs who enjoy and seek out opportunities to kill our citizens. You don't like profiling? Then please do not profile law enforcement officers! We are supposed to be friendly and non-threatening, yet be able to react and prevail against our assailants, and the remarkable thing is that we can and do - against all odds - almost all of the time, because the average officer is a person of integrity and courage who takes their responsibility of protecting our citizens and assisting them very seriously and who lives with specter of constant 360' vigilance on and off duty. That takes it's toll on us, and we are all changed people for working this job, but I wish you knew us like I do - cops are the nicest people, who really want to help people - often that means taking people off your streets who will hurt you, and most do not go quietly, but we do not desire to take another person's life. The punishment for being a "bad " officer is severe - every complaint is investigated thoroughly and we do not receive the 'innocent until proven guilty" presumption you receive - we are under suspicion from the moment the complaint comes in with the burden on us to prove ourselves innocent, and face loss of our job with the inability to ever work in this field again. We are held to a higher standard - our personal lives as well as our working lives are under scrutiny.

Certainly a good breakdown of the interactions with police officers. Never the less US has a gigantic problem with paranoia, when the first resort to trouble is pulling out guns the second can only be to unleash a hail of bullets. And more often then not these fatalities are explained away with "well there were no other options", of course there weren't because you started with the last two.

Look, when dealing with criminals, you should ALWAYS side with law enforcement. You may not like the LAW, but it is there to keep the fabric of society knit together. Is it really so hard to act in a way that doesn't bring law enforcement into your life? If it is, then you DESERVE IT. I have had my own dealings with the law. I have been taken off the streets when I was intoxicated and driving a vehicle. Do I hate the law? NO, I DESERVED to be arrested by my callous, selfish, and dangerous actions. And so DO YOU.

There's another example he left out when he talked about the inert gun. Some criminals ahve actually built guns into toys. Dig around online and you can find super soakers and other clear toys someone built pistols and even shot guns into. If a cop tells you to drop your weapon put it down its really that simple.

he makes good points

I'm delighted that the policeman is advocating for a scientific stance of integrity, communication, dialogue, and holistic integration of information. A great lecture, indeed. I hope some religious apologists see it, too...!

So true

Excellent, relevant video. Thank you for posting this.

Powerful!

*Doesn't this guy work on the series Criminal Minds?* (could be his twin brother)

This man shows the problem with the police shooting unarmed suspects and getting away with it. The police investigating other police officers in a shooting are bias towards their fellow officers just like this man. The one thing that has brought these shooting to light is the prevalence of cell phone cameras. Case in point is the shooting captured on a cell phone camera of Walter Scott in South Carolina. If that shooting was not recorded, the officer would be out of jail and back at work. His untruthful police report, claiming Mr. Scott was coming towards the officer and trying to grab his taser, would've been taken as the absolute truth. As a society, we need to take away the police policing themselves and have a civilian review board take over the duties of deeming who is worthy to work as a law enforcement officer. We also need to mandate a state license to work in law enforcement, so when an officer is deemed unworthy of a badge and gun, their license is revoked, eliminating any future employment as a law enforcement officer. Too many times, bad officers are allowed to resign from one department, only to be hired at another.

Use of handcuffs is considered extreme force when someone knows they're innocent of why the cuffs are being put on them, and they develop hemosiderosis due to the trauma. What would happen if they asked them to go in to identify the person in the morning?

Thank you for this amazing talk from police perspective, because the news only show about "peaceful" citizens protest against police in which victims are local business and infrastructure.

Silence?

🔥 Great message.

Very encouraging, brother. Thank you for that.

I worked in a geographically large rural area including several cities and several small towns. Our country LE serves urban as week as rural areas because most of the urban areas have chosen not to pay for their own police force due to economics - 24 hour patrols and police equipment are expensive. I disagree that those working inn small towns have less risk than big city officers- I have taken a number of LE classes in my own all over the U.S., have friends in both areas, and my own experiences. Most of the time I worked on my own with either no back-up officer or back-up half an hour away at the fastest speed possible. Yet by myself I faced the same dangers , gangs, multiple assailants, crazy people, violent people, and rented barns and unoccupied farms used as meth labs are extremely common. In fact, contrary to popular belief, mentally disturbed people are more likely to gravitate to areas with small populations than big cities - rural areas allow them to live on their own whatever way they want without being disturbed, and people in small towns are often more accepting of local odd people, who they try to make sure are taken care of. But mentally disturbed people are the most dangerous for police as they are unpredictable and they commit violent acts without understanding or intending the mayhem which occurs. My big city counterparts - and the one wealthy city within our county - go to the same dangerous calls where I arrived alone with no less then 4 people (2 2 man cars). Our area cannot afford anything like that, we go alone not because of lack of danger but because the money is not there. It is rare for one of our officers to retire from this job - almost all go out on disability due to injuries suffered on the job, although our people are stoic and stay as long as possible, even with injuries. All officers suffer for every act of misconduct done by another officer. But when you compare the number of interactions of officers with the public with positive outcomes to those where misconduct occurs, there are very very few where misconduct occurs. The public never heard about all the positive interactions, the people assisted by LE, the people who call the department to let them know how grateful they were, the number of times they write letters of thanks to us, the humor, the people left in a much better way then before we arrived, because they do not make sensationally news. I am not condoning any misconduct, like most officers I take my responsibility towards the public very seriously, but both hiring boards and officers are human, not robots, and it is not possible for there to never be an incident of misconduct. In any other profession but priests and doctors, we accept some misconduct. But perfection is not human. I have often admitted my peers as seeming to be superhuman - but really human is what we are, and while we may strive for perfection, we know it is not achievable. I can honestly say that in my close to 30 years I never conmitted an act of misconduct against the public, but being human some of my interactions were more helpful, went above and beyond, while others just did what was necessary.And I relate all this not for sympathy - I and my peers do not need or want sympathy. And yes, we do act to protect and to serve. While that may be hard to understand or accept to those who have never had that kind of value or belief, it is very real to most in LE, military, and a number of other professions.

1. If the deadly engagements with law enforcement are so low, why do we have so many where the LEO is at fault? 2. The answer is not for us to understand what / why LEO is doing something against our constitutional rights. England doesn't have the problem we have with LEO. Neither does Canada. 3. His experiments are faulted. He gave the full scenario before the action taken. A LEO will not have someone to "set up" the situation for them. Therefore his experiment is not close to being realistic. 4. The Supreme Court ruled LEO's job is not to protect citizens. The "Protect and Serve" is no longer true. It is our own responsibility to make sure we are safe and protected.

The problem there is that this is borne out of proper internal affairs policy. Its not proper to publicly comment on an investigation that is not complete, and it's also not proper to publicly comment when to do so may violate the constitutional rights of any person, including the rights of a police officer. This is essentially, where we need to pass laws against press conferences occurring too early after an incident because the first amendment is not absolute in view of the fourteenth amendment due process rights of a potential criminal defendant. In essence a criminal defendant's fourth, fifth, and fourteenth amendment rights necessarily foreclose upon the first amendment right of the public to know.

There are real guns of all types in various colors including pink, blue, red, orange etc.

well, more Ted.

He did not adress the times cops fabricated situations and they themselves were the assailants in order to excuse shooting someone.

Great presentation.

Great information. This is what the news should be explaining to the low information folks. The police state fruitloops are too far gone, pointless trying to convince them.

police should be able to do there job without having to think about "am i going to get death threats cause of this", "am i going to be slandered for this" if police think about these in the moment they or someone else could die and i rely don't think people rely fathom that when its not them or there family member on the line people just to point a finger at someone and call it a day without rely comprehending what happens when you are in a situation were you are certain you could die. attempt to understand before you condemn.

I think the public are not aware of the extreme stress the L.E.O. is under at times, and that they're not perfect, they're human beings, they have fears and they dont always make the right decisions/judgments when under duress. If you're a Christian you should pray for the police, for their protection and that they do uphold& enforce the law properly.

Well they cant very well comment until they get thier story straight!

Most dangerous weapon is when family allows them to do whatever they wanna. They get comfortable and wanna violate your every right

Officers pledged to try to protect us...not to die for us. Would you?

for several decades now, i have been very interested in the issue of the security of the u s as a free State; my thinking keeps going-logical, & right back to the Constitution of The United States of America (let me know WHEN i lose you); particularly, The Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment thereunto: "A well regulated militia [a citizens' militia nationwide] being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." ie, govt by well regulated militia (not career politicians); law enforcement by well regulated militia (not career federalized military, dressed-up to somewhat appear to not be such); judicial proceedings by well regulated militia (not career judges, legislating from the bench as they see fit, strictly violating The Separation Of Powers Act, routinely 'siding' w/ teams of lie-ing 'cops', pergury, i believe); america-- love it or leave it-- well, i left over 4yrs ago, hoping never to return

Training. Our police are ex-military in more ways than ever. Our police are well trained in anti-personnel methods, just not in anti-crime methods.

Thank God

It’s nice to hear an officer on Ted Talks educate people on use of force rather than condemning their own officers and pandering to cry baby public

so when a 8 officers shoot a man 60 times yet another group of officers encounter a man who has killed 7 people and is still armed, giving him time to take out his gun and lay on the ground; what is at play then?

No comment is better than the lies and excuses and playing the victim we usually hear. Like when a cop was illegally arresting a kid and the cop had a heart attack and died so they charged the kid for his death and went on TV and lied about what happened. Stuff like that is why the divide is growing.

His math sucks. .0002865 is less than 100 shootings total. Less than 50 actually. There are more. And he does not include the unlawful , forceful handcuffing a person without cause. That is a battery.

I love the idea of getting departments to buy body cams for all officers. i hope the video is HD and dolby sound quality. That way departments/officers can post ALL of the videos to public access. The public can see what disregard and violence law enforcement officers are subjected to on a daily basis. If your loved one was being shot at by a suspect who was running away and a cop was watching, what would you want the officer to do??....hmm? If you push the police away from the communities who need them and create a distrust between them, then the community is the biggest loser. The community need police, the police don't need the communities. If a cop sits around and is not proactive in the prevention of crime,,,guess what...he still gets paid. There will always be a few rotten apples in any bunch. When protocal is not followed or the law is broken, they should be judged by 12. You can't blame all officers for a very small percent of a-hole cops that abuse their power. Of course the media and all the squeeky wheels (criminals and their families, liberals, the president) have the ignorant and misinformed in an uproar. Understand what and who you are defending before you put your self value on the line for them.

Ego.

The hardest thing for police officer is decision making for as knowing when to draw his gun and shoot or not to shoot (Life changing decision) 🇺🇸

What about pistol cameras? Like an attachment under the barrel. That way, there is a recording of all uses of the firearm.

We need to grow body cam legislature and accountability. Cameras don't lie, neither does submitting employee DNA, law enforcement however.....

Police departments need to take a long and serious look at their priorities. First things first, cops have now lost the trust of law-abiding citizens with their "policing for profit" scams. There is no honor in hiding on the side of the road behind bushes with a radar gun. That is the first step in restoring a level of trust between drivers and road pirates. Second, cops should be taken out of their cars - permanently - and the majority of their time should be walking a beat in the same neighborhoods to build trust with those communities. Third is arresting people and throwing them in jail for non-violent offenses has ruined uncountable lives. There is a better way to mediate disagreements between civilians and cops. I am NOT talking about felons, rapists, murderers or people who assault others. They should be disabled immediately and put in prison. But these petty drug violations are filling up prisons with non-violent offenders. Basically the entire method of policing in the US needs to be pulled up by the roots and a new face should appear on law enforcement. It should go back to "Serve and Protect" instead of "Thieve, Lie and Deny".

Let’s talk about “trust”. When I see video of a nurse in an emergency room in Utah being assaulted by a police officer and learn the nurse had filed a complaint against the police officer and the police department had done nothing to address the situation for 30 days, causing the nurse to post the video which subsequently led to disciplinary action against the officer it raises questions of accountability. Had the nurse not had the video what would have happened? None of the other officers on the scene attempted to stop the offending officer and no charges were filed against the officer. How about the police officer who assaulted an employee at a Wendy’s in Ohio because he thought she short changed him? The video from the store proved the employee did nothing wrong and was assaulted by the officer. The officer was not charged with any crime. Anyone else would have been arrested and charged. How about the video of the exterminator crawling on his knees in a hotel hallway begging for his life being murdered in cold blood. No charges filed. 4 officers armed with automatic rifles wearing body armor against one guy crawling on the floor, and the justification for the shooting was “fear”. How about Philando Castillo? Girlfriend and daughter in the car with the girlfriend live streaming his murder. He was cooperative and compliant. No conviction because his murderer was wearing blue. I thought justice was blind. The number of lawsuits filed against police for civil rights violations and excessive force has skyrocket since 2011. The increase is a direct effect of the SCOTUS decision to allow police to be videoed. With video evidence the LEO’s version of events, which is the “evidence” the internal affairs departments use in investigations (and leads to “no violation of policy” decisions), clearly contradicts the officers version of events and leads to awards to the victims, but no disciplinary action or charges against the officer. Not even perjury. How about the LEO in Statham GA who arrested people who were taking ANY medication for DUI because the arrests padded the departments numbers so they would get grant money. No conviction, just arrests. Of course the victims of the officers crime had to hire attorneys and defend themselves in court. How much longer shall I go on? I agree with the “no comment” issue mentioned. When you hear the police can’t comment about an ongoing investigation you can be sure someone is fabricating a story. It IS all about trust, or lack there of. If you have some time, Google “Frank Serpico”.

Cops have a rough job. Every time you pull someone over/ interact with the public it could end badly. You as a cop could die, you as a cop might have to defend yourself and kill someone. Then you have to live with that for the rest of your life. You get to second guess yourself about if you could have done something different. There is so little time to make the decision when it is happening. As the public, you need to understand that and try to make their job as easy as possible. If your getting pulled over by the police, its dark out, this is what you should do. Turn on your dome light, roll down the window, pull over somewhere safe if you have to drive a little ways turn on the four way flashers, pull over and keep both hands on the steering wheel and put the car in park, wait for the officer to come to you and answer all his questions as politely as possible, if he needs your papers from the glove box ask him if it is all right to get them, follow all their commands even if you don't think the officer has the right to ask you to do something you can fight that later in court. They don't know you, they don't know if your going to try to hurt them so put them at easy and you will not have to worry.

How is this video not more popular?? 78k views? Pathetic. Especially considering how many views the "anti-cop" videos have. This is vitally important information.

When the chief says " no comment " the cops say " whew! Im glad he's got our backs". And when politicians,special interest groups or citizens say " coverup"! Its usually do to thier experience!

Talk like that you wife's walks, people get scared that,,,,, stress, hardship, bully

Low stats on brutality are partially due to NOT investigating extreme brutality, up to and including police shootings, but also including more minor unwarranted violence. I have not personally been subjected to violence, as a typical white male, and younger in an earlier era, but I've had a few occasions where I know police provocation and the threat of unwarranted violence was obvious. Maybe I'm especially good at being submissive towards armed warriors -- though for others, even being polite and submissive seems to have been no help. At the same time, I cannot discount the presence of overt thuggery and violence on the part of citizens, as reported on YT by other non-cop citizens. www.theamericanconservative.com/2014/07/02/seven-reasons-police-brutality-is-systematic-not-anecdotal/

Dude repeats himself.

Classic America

The audience has not had police training. Police receive training that improv reaction time and their ability to judge potential threats to the lives around them. I would fully expect the audience reactions to threats to be questionable. I understand that video and cameras do not always tell the total story of any situation but the camera gets it right many more times then not. The most dangerous weapon in law enforcement is an officer being protected from his/hers bad deeds.

Courage is not cowering and grovelling to a "community" who demands answers from the police when they should be in respectful submission to those in authority. Thats disunity. Who do these people think they are that demand answers from police? I grew up in a world where the police did the questioning! Law enforcement, like every other system, needs to keep the backbone in order to stand. I believe that the power and authority invested in them, which we should all respectfully recognise, is that backbone. We as a society cannot give that away on a silver platter, because if we do, we will have no protection against the free-for-all chaos that would ensue.

Billshi

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Good info in this talk. I don't agree with his claim that videos will never record what officers see and feel. There is more than enough evidence from police body cam, dash cam, and witness videos that show blatant racial profiling, excessive police force, and like the man said "fear". Did the video of Charles Kinsey with his arms up saying "don't shoot" not show fear? These videos also record audio... you can hear the fear and tension in any of the hundreds of videos of police killing people. The fact that the majority of Americans have smartphones with camera capabilities means that police brutality is being exposed. It is nothing new. It is just being recorded now, thankfully. So much so that it has brought the issue of police brutality to the forefront of our nation's problems. Everyone has seen at least 1 video. That reach ability alone proves that people are watching these videos and being affected by them. How can you claim then that videos "never show what the police see and aren't the answer".

The whole point of this Ted talk is to reaffirm the bias that we should always assess police actions with the himpathy for the officer's rush toward a split second decision. Yet, I expect police officers to slow things down. If citizens should not rush to judgement then law enforcement should not rush to action.

Violence in 1% of interactions is not a low rate.

What happens when a citizen kills a cop during an encounter, for example a faulty no knock raid? Typically the police and state go for first degree murder, and the death penalty if possible. What happens when the police maim or kill an innocent civilian, in some cases children or babies, during such a raid? If we're really lucky the cops responsible get a slap on the wrist. Add in the abuse of forfeiture law to steal from citizens and it should come as no surprise we don't trust the police. They should be held to a higher standard and subjected to harsh punishments when they harm people.

If you are an officer you should understand you can die when ur in duty. I don't blame them but I think they should at least learn to shoot in the leg or thighs of the suspect at worst. Shooting 10 times is just unacceptable.

It should be mandatory that Cheif’s give details about police shootings that way there would be no reason to assume corruption....also make sure these police that are in the wrong are punished accordingly and there would be no riots...this guy is trying to make all the police seem like innocent Angel’s

No other profession tolerates, covers for and even rewards ignorance, incompetence, poor behavior and poor performance, destroying innocent people's lives, even to the point of killing them, the way law enforcement does.

"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you! You have the right to an attorney!" These are basic law, even for people that are guilty. So I disagree with you, sir. "No comment" is not the problem. "No comment" is the law! And it's wise! Give the facts as you know them when you don't have all the facts, and the public will still jump to conclusions when they only have half the information. That's not "innocent until proven guilty." These investigations must be left to due process and/or the courts. These investigations must be left to the professionals who can take the totality of circumstances from beginning to end, with all the evidence presented, and then make the conclusion. This takes time and is why we have trials.

A knife in that grip from twenty feet away does not warrant a shooting. It needs more negotiation

me ace on this is. guns cops 80s and how to not get shoot when you both standing pointing at each other..tryingstanddowntook 12hours .. a nz self defence

No comment = no accountability.

No, their most dangerous weapon is your belief in their authority over your (and my) life.

Bet criminals disliked this video

The most dangerous weapon on a cop is his badge. It covers them from a multitude of sins against the public.

all the more reason why the police are out of control

Copaganda. FTP.