hurray

I’m in your walls

@@lilsoviet7933 Im in ur closet

Yippee!!!!

Thank you.

Honestly he sounds to be enough of a loser that he would do that.

he likely remoged the clues himself cause of the missing note in the final jar when they followed the clues

Thats... actually a plausible theory. The guy was full of himself. Maybe he dropped the police a hint cause he thought he would still not get caught and wanted to tease them

Hi Spag :)

Clout is one helluva drug lol. He really wanted everybody to know it was him.

Sometimes wageslavery doesn't cut you bereavement leave. I remember working through the death of my own parents, living paycheck to paycheck, I was so emotionally repressed that when I approached the 1 year anniversary of their deaths I finally had a complete breakdown.

@@sasaki999pro fuck that is terrible man; I am so sorry. I hope you’re doing better.

When I was 14 I walked out to go to work and my cat that I had for 13+ years was dead and I still went to work. I wish I wouldn’t have now cause that cat was really something. It literally ruined me on cats cause for all that time the only cat I really knew was mine and it was awesome. I’m not saying that cause it was mine. Like it kept the area free from rodents, moles, etc, but would bring the young home alive. It went out at dusk and came back in at dawn. It didn’t need a litter box, food, or water. It used the bathroom outside, and got water and food from outside. We kept it a bowel of food and water but it would get old and we’d have to throw the stuff away and clean the bowels. It followed me around almost like a dog, but better since it didn’t do the annoying dog thing of getting under a person causing them to trip or stumble trying to not step on dog. When ~3-4 I’d tote her around with one arm wrapped around just under her forelegs. Her body would hang loose with her back paws almost on the ground. In the pictures she has this look on her face when I’m holding her like that. I look so proud of my cat tho. However, she would run to me after school or whenever and assume the position for me to pick her up and drag her around. Or sometimes she rode laying or sitting on my shoulders or around my neck. I regret it but being young we also used her to see if cats always land on their feet and the answer is this one did every time but two and it took extreme circumstances for it to not land. Again tho it would run right back to me at the top of the stairs for us to run another test even the one time one whole side of her smacked the tile floor hard from the sound of it. She was basically the best features of dogs and cats with none of the bad ones except she shed white hair so good luck wearing black when she was around. After her I tried to get other cats but they suck. The bad behaviors cats often display comes from too many people accepting subpar cats. You treat them like bulldogs IE put down any that show aggression towards people and before long the small kitten trying to kill you for feeding it would be history.

@@211212112 so im not nickpicky but "bowel" is your colon, "bowl" is what you put water and food in. One letter and it completely changes the meaning

​@@sasaki999prolol imagine

Especially annoying for the almost countless cases of "A person was brutally murdered, here's the months of research that happened, and all the forensics, yada yada" *30-60 minutes pass* "Then detectives looked at the partner, who had recently taken out a life insurance claim on the person, had recently started acting strangely and was particularly friendly with someone new, and had started a new relationship within days of the victim's death, turns out their DNA was on the weapon, the end. :)" Like bro why'd you waste an hour of my time for the most obvious answer that there was already DNA evidence for?

Guard: What happened to the Renoir?! Guy with suspiciously painting shaped stomach: What painting? That wall was already blank when I walked in. Yep! No paintings in here no sir.

That would be an interesting video actually

I'm pretty sure Jacob Geller has a video on it

@@jeremiahbaugh8195 he mentions it in one, which is where i heard about it, but that video's primary focus is the dude that stole a fuck ton of dead birds for fly fishing lures

@@NoTime2Explain676the ending of this sentence is like a kick in the throat

What a shitty story

I'm amazed he even came into work that day.. a guy that dedicated to his work, and sounding so kind, did not deserve such a horrible fate.

@@emred4653 no you idiot. I feel bad that they chose to use the kind of man that only misses work when his cat died. That little detail show what kind of man he was and gives way more context to the entire story. My comment was never about the goddamn cat. It’s really sad that for years people thought he was involved when he was clearly just a sweet, hardworking dude who loved his cat. I want people to remember Brian as the kind of guy who took a day off to mourn his pet not as some dastardly co-conspirator.

@@emred4653 i think you're misunderstading something, but im not telling ya

@@emred4653 you're telling a random person on the internet that their feelings are invalid and then twisting it for no reason, you should probably rethink who should get a grip

dont play dead money lol

its a saw trap irl

It's really scary to think about the fact that he was basically already dead the minute the collar went on, and he had no idea

Guys I think wendigoon commented on their recent video.

If the bomb would detonate if there was any tampering, doesn’t that mean the key going in would’ve set it off? There was no surviving this.

That’s an actual sopranos joke, Uncle junior mean mugged the artist the whole time too

100% a clinical narcissist

100% a lie

That's really funny :D thanks for sharing!

@@smartfella7914 gabagool

So actually Jigsaw because he makes traps that just kill people then blame them for not getting out.

@@Winasaurus at least in SAW the victims had dogshit reasons for being kidnapped instead of none at all

Hmm someone with Stein in their name being manipulative and cruel to those he considers weaker than or less than himself????? Color me shocked!

@@Winasaurus yeah, seems like his logic was that it was the victim's fault for not figuring out the way to escape something allegedly inescapable. Which makes me wonder.... was it actually escapable? Like the Jigsaw example... he would put weird stupid tricks into the "traps" that while not immediately obvious... would let a person who thought about what they were doing... sidestep the whole trap. this guy's smarter than you attitude... makes me wonder if he got a chuckle out of having a secret get out of bomb free switch somewhere hidden.

@@marhawkman303 One of the Saw sequels has the villain being busted out by the successor of the original killer because they create no-win scenarios where the victim has no chance to escape instead of giving them a chance to solve the riddles.

Nice! Remember the good old days when the FBI tried to solve crimes instead of set them up.

@@tonyfriendly4409 it always bin like that only now people see stuff dont trust them or the goverment anymore

​​@@Sammy-dushi no. The old FBI did that back in the 20-40s the moment the cold war started they turned bad

@@fastestfail2645 government has always been bad?

They were clueless because the local agent was a cocksure moron and local and federal authorities were in a pissing match.

If my cat dies in taking the whole day off.

@@litmatch7249 week*

@@Mench2007 month*

@@burningpottedplants1500 year*

@@Mench2007 Burn my job to the ground*

Also I wonder if they ever did a hand writing analysis for who wrote the notes. I only know about this case from this video and Wendy didn't mention any of this...

What I personally think is important to note, which he didn't mention, is that the trail went cold at the stop immediately after the place where he was supposed to stash the money in a dead drop. I think the idea was that Wells would definitely get the police after him at some point in this, and by having him ditch the money early on in this insane scavenger hunt and then keep moving, he would draw the police away. Everything up to dropping off the money was important to them. Everything AFTER him dropping off the money...wasn't. They just didn't expect the cops to catch him that early in the process.

IMO it was going to end with Brian dead no matter what because either way like the FBI said there was no way to make all the stops in the amount of time for the bomb to go off that’s why they were watching him so when he died they just take the money and run! Also their reason why they was planning it so Brian didn’t make it is because IF everything went as planned Brian couldn’t identify the people that practically forced him to rob the bank…

@@FlashHawk4 I agree.

@@radonsmith4386 It was Rothstein, most likely. Despite everyone in the case being baby boomers, the note was not written in cursive, suggesting it was written in typeface to hide the handwriting. However, Rothstein seems to have tested the pen on some of the pages as traces of his handwriting were found on some notes.

Hence why so many feel a parasocial connection to his content & approach I suppose

That's a really good point!

And it's bolstered by his only day being late was due to the death of his cat and him allegedly asking for the money upon delivery. He was just a really diligent worker and it makes me so sad

What if that was just a ploy or a way to let pinette know the jig was up , can’t remember if he was working that day honestly but I definitely could be just a ploy

@@djg4534 that doesn’t make sense with their story that Wells struggled at the radio tower because he somehow found out the bomb was real. And all of his behavior after being caught by police showed he was afraid for his life, believed the bomb was real, and believed they would detonate it if he didn’t complete the steps. So, why would he want to let them know to detonate faster when the bomb squad was on its way?

Also, how would Wells randomly know the bomb was real on the day of the heist? Why did they say he waited for the money? Why would he desperately want the police to complete the steps if he was in on it? Why would they set up this elaborate plot only to have the “bomb-hostage” know all their identities?

This is why pizza delivery people carry guns today

Not to mention having his death portrayed in a shitty Hollywood comedy movie

@@MrGrandure How exactly would a gun have helped him in his situation?

@@shitnipples942 ya know maybe he could defend himself against the people strapping a literal bomb against his chest just a thought tho

@@C6urier Or die with them, you know a gun against a bomb wouldn't do that much damage compared to the blast that would have taken all off them.

I don't think he was involved in the planning, and I think they knew he couldn't complete all the steps. They wanted him killed so he couldn't be a witness. Once the money was dropped they didn't need him any more.

Fucked up, poor pizza guy.

Underrated comment

@@Thatguy55595 never say never

I know a guy who is kinda like that. He's innocent, like a child. One guy threatened him randomly when he was waiting in a parking lot for his job. Apparently he likes to walk around the parking lot looking for change on the ground, and this guy yelled at him claiming he was trying to break into cars or something and threatened to call the sheriff/police. I stayed with him to calm him down. Kinda made me mad, some baseless claim made against someone minding their own business.

High IQ has been related to depression So the opposite could be true, on a personal note I have never met someone more stupid than me and i feel great even tho I know my life is falling apart

@@lurkinhehe ignorance is bliss

I totally agree with you I share the same exact sentiment and the fact that the FBI and the government hasn't come out and cleared this guy's name and said that he was a victim and he got murdered is absolutely Beyond shameful in my opinion the stress and the heartache and the pain if they've caused this guy's poor mother and the rest of his family is just disgusting

he should do that all the time frankly

with the thumbtacks yeah

Would def be right up his vibe!

I think he would unintentionally recreate the charlie day meme

degenerate pfp

Sounds like Erie... Pennsylvania has a very odd assortment of characters, as much as I dislike living here it's never boring lol

It's literally out of Fallout. There's a New Vegas DLC where a bomb collar is slapped on you and you're forced to do a heist

There's also a movie called 30 minutes or less that is incredibly similar though people who worked on it claimed not to know much about the case

@@HydraLlamasi was thinking of this movie while watching this video, it makes sense how they didn’t know much. I haven’t watched it in a bit but I think most of the plot is just a pizza driver gets a bomb vest strapped to him and he’s forced to rob a bank. Which is like 80% of the whole case but it’s like the general information so it makes sense they didn’t know much about it

@@captain6545 yeah the main villain of the movie is also trying to kill his father but overall seems mostly coincidental.

Atimyogiuu I go 30:11 ff

“Hey boss, is this folder full of valuable information valuable?” “Nah, just put it back in the desk and forget about it”

Lol what? U think he was in on it?

​@@enterpassword3313 they said "if he somewhat"

I found her on fb. She looks terrible.

Yep. Poor guy. Also, the “AG1” advert was the most painful thing I’ve ever heard. People, don’t fall for the billion dollar supplement market. They are useless and that’s a fact unless you have a diagnosed deficiency. Same with probiotics. There’s actually evidence to suggest they’re bad unless you’ve been on antibiotics. “But they work for me!” Yes. It’s called a placebo. This is why the efficacy of drugs is “percentage more effective than placebo”. The placebo effect isn’t something only idiots fall for, we all do and you will have many times during your life.

@@enterpassword3313 Some-what collaborated in the sense that he was most likely coerced into it and wasn't told at all that the bomb on his chest was actually real, so he didn't realize just how dire the situation was for him and everyone else around him until the collar started beeping.

She was smart, but not very bright Y’know?

She was so stupid that the meter broke and pointed towards her being smart.

@@alanwatts8239Integer underflow

She's stupid. She's just smart to all the even more stupid people out there. Intelligence measuring is all relative. She might honestly be so stupid that it confused people so much to the point of believing her to be smart...

She did get away with possibly murdering 2 of her partners, but this was back in the 80s or whenever. Forensic work wasn't as up to snuff, and since CCTV, computers & cellphones weren't as common place there wasn't the paranoia of leaving a huge paper trail. Her power is being able to mobilize simps, criminals, crackheads, and other needy people living on the fringes to do her bidding, like a bipolar bizzaro Nick Fury. Doesn't really take smarts to get these type of characters to commit murder since they all thought they were getting a piece of the pie.

..yeah.. i bet he lost his mind

@@CrungleFunk I like dark humor but the two jokes were awful, come on now.

@@CrungleFunk That he did, what an awful way to go.

I imagine he had a few moments of clarity about the life decisions that led him there,

@@romulusrealist16 So it's his fault for being... a pizza delivery guy?

I prefer the longer videos tbh

Amen 😔✊

Same. I love them

Long-form content 🫶

I like hearing the majority of the information instead of short summarised versions of stories people often put out.

😢

I swore I remember reading somewhere that he had some sort of special needs. Really unfortunate.

⁠@@Pipsqueak-ovbs I can’t speak for all special needs people but I was diagnosed at 9 that I had adhd and autism, 15 now) and it does seem he carry’s traits of it being so vulnerable is a lot more common ) w special needs people being taken advantage off, we can believe so quick what somebody is saying is true. Again this isn’t a diagnosis and sorry if my wording is wrong.

​@@JokersD0llif doesn't automatically make you vulnerable to being exploited. I have ADHD and I can stand my ground well.

@@bigbadlara5304 like I said it’s different for everyone for me (I have adhd n autism it’s easy to take advantage of me, proving that by the fact I’ve been groomed b4

I think it's possible he planned to get the money from Brian in the woods and then leave him to try and get to the next clue, which wasn't there, at which point the bomb would have detonated already. But it's clear the his and Marjorie's goals didn't align and I wonder if they really talked too much about what Rothstein was planning, where it's obvious he focused on making it into a game to show how smart he was and didn't really care about making sure they got the money.

this is the hatred that i have for that thing but i could not have said it better in 300 lifetimes

This comment reminds me of that meme with a guy looking at his shoe going "Ew, I stepped in shit!" and then there'd be a closeup of Marjorie Diehl's photo on the shoe. By all means, she deserves to be remembered as nothing more than a pos.

Holy shit Margery is an alternate lmao

For me is just so silly. These guys had time for all the jigsaw,arg easter eggs but couldnt rob a bank on their own and didnt plan to a person just pulling him over at all. Like wtf they thought this was? A fucking mel gibson movie or something

@@mrcuccob6386 Bad decision, Brian

Obviously don’t know but a part of me feels like whatever fight they had was about Brian and possibly Marjorie blaming Jessica for his death or something similar

@@Hello___there i think you're right on the money with why jessica came out. it sounds like something someone like marjory would say; i doubt she could keep quiet when faced with jessica

that’s exactly what i thought

Jessica was an addict before she went to jail with Marjorie. She's rehabilitated.

@@zerker08 That might well be a factor - addiction can squash guilt and other emotions very effectively - and depending on the drug it can screw up your judgement, mind you, toxoplasmosis can do that. I hate to imagine what that kind of guilt can do to a person, even if she dropped him in it without knowing the depth of the it she was dropping him in.. But the scavenger hunt/deathstar run should have clued him in, screaming around an American town at 60mph is going to draw smokeys like rotting meat draws flies.. An all around evil bunch of bastards..

👂

@@simply_based it’s the right shape

I send my hear too

@@pootispickle4482 i too give my listens to this guy 50% half deaf

H e a r

You're probably right that makes me sad

Robert was there as a delivery driver the day of the incident. So it would more be if he went out instead of Brian.

Yeah, guy could easily have thought he deserved to die instead and practically wager it just to feel okay. Almost a subconscious suicide if that makes sense. It's a hard feeling to describe. To keep it short, survivor's guilt really is real as fuck... Everything I hear about Brain makes me think I would feel like, no matter how illogical, it was my fault. Especially if he was, in the nicest way, dumb.

What 👀

If this is true then goddamn this case has some lore

@@themightylog2169 There’s also another Erie commenter saying he used to be a shop class teacher at the local high school and used to date her mother’s friend.

It really doesn't sound like he was a willing participant

If you feel bad for him, why not just say, "that is bullshit" and defend him!? I mean 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

Stay true to your beliefs

@@jonfoulkes3160 that doesnt change any of what occurred or any slander towards him

it makes me happy that when you google his name now he’s titled as a “victim” of the case

The game was rigged from the start

They weren't going to detonate it, they were going to wait until it detonated. It was rigged to kitchen timers. It turning out to be pipe bombs on a kitchen timer. 50 minutes would be more than enough to take that bitch apart. What ashame.

From where he's kneeling, it must seem like an 18-karat run of bad luck

I have a feeling that the perpetrators took the 4th instructions because it had incriminating details. Like perhaps, the 4th instruction detailed how Brian will kill Margery's father.

i thought it was weird that there was a jar, but no instructions in it. why leave the jar?

This comment contains many certified Erie moments, you only need someone to repair your car while eating a corn dog dipped in mayonnaise to really round off the story.

​@@luxborealisyou guys dip corn dogs in mayonnaise? You guys are truly awful

Yep if I have a bomb strapped to me you're damn sure I'm trying to follow through exactly what my captors told me to do, even if I'm caught by the cops. Especially if the captors told you that no one else would be able to remove it without it detonating, and especially if you're easily manipulated and not the sharpest thinker. But I don't think even super smart people would necessarily do anything different to Brian. You're in a pretty desperate situation and giving the cops accurate descriptions is unlikely to help you right then, where as it could harm you if they are somehow listening in - or if you send the cops after them and they detonate the bomb.

​@@r-pupz7032 A single cop in my general area is a bigger threat to my life than any animal I've encountered, regardless of me following the law. I am *not* going to be able to think very clearly after being taken hostage, being forced into robbing a bank while wearing a bomb on my neck, and cop's guns aimed on me.

@@XXMatt0040XXI don’t know ever encounter a polar bear, those are pretty scary

@@lonelyloser9376 Norway moment

He was most def told to say that

It’a crazy how often killers are caught and then released…

Biggest problem is that a lot of people either don’t cooperate with investigators or they just make stuff up to get attention and clog up the investigation. It’s really hard to get reliable witnesses with viable info that contributes to or is a solid lead.

Police aren’t incompetent

@@JoseHerrerawl no there not, serial killers end up with life in prison

@@KelgorothTheFinalShape what world do you live in?

wendigoon was very kind in how he said it, and of course i dont know brian closely or anything but from what ive seen and how i understood things happening it seems very clear that he was mentally deficient in some ways and was taken advantage of in this situation.

Yup, my first job out of school was working at a local bank. I actually worked the computers at night and from 7-9pm I was the only person on the entire property. The vault had two codes, one which was a fake and another that was legit. I knew both. I went into it almost every day, saw the money, etc. One day I went in and counted 10 million dollars in $100 bills while they locked it behind me. EVEN WITH ALL THIS... I would absolutely never consider it and not even once in the entire time I was there did the thought even remotely cross my mind. The amount of security even at that bank, which by no means was state of the art, would result in issues almost immediately.

Hmm that’s just what the banks want you to think🤨

Isn't their like a number code on the money anyway makeing it useless. I oy know about it cuz of the guy who hiested a plane and jumpped out with the money

if the government will send IRS agents to your house to shoot your dog and grandma because you owe them a quarter, imagine what lengths they'd go to to find you if you intentionally stole $250,00 from them.

@@chaoticcatartist yup, the bank documents all that, even if you did get away with it, you wouldn't be able to spend the money, unless you laundered it in a third world country, or something else silly like that.

I live about an hour and a half east in Warren, where Bryan was from. Nobody really likes to talk about it here.

I’m surprised a lot of people remember it after all this time… maybe if it’s a small town and that’s the only really big thing that’s ever happened there? But seems like people forget stuff real quick. I live in Nashville and people have already forgotten about the guy that blew himself up in an RV in the middle of downtown around Christmas just a couple years ago while playing a weird announcement over an intercom a half hour before the bomb went off. They fixed the buildings and road where it happened, and it never gets brought up anymore. Maybe in this case, people are divided on the who and why and so it almost becomes an urban legend as to what happened to this Brian guy.

why do they ask you to leave ?

@@seunoo you serious?

@@HeatherHolt I remember that happening. None of that story made a lot of sense..

That wouldn't make sense considering the only people who knew he tried to take payment was the co-conspirators.

​@@Winasaurusyeah but he was fully aware that after said heist he would still be in police custody, they had him on camera robbing the bank. He was going to need an alibi no matter what... well, almost no matter what. The bomb going boom solved that issue

@@finnl6887 Yes, my point being that "I thought I was just delivering pizza, my proof is that I asked them for payment" doesn't work as evidence because that's literally just saying you did something. He could say he asked them to solve a rubik's cube and the police have exactly as much proof of that as they do for him asking payment. The only people who could back him up on that claim are the people who he would claim put a bomb on him, who would obviously have 0 incentive to play along with what he says.

I think Brian was an innocent victim. @@Winasaurus

My interpretation is that Jessica is on crack. Crack doesn't always lead to the wisest decisions.

I dont blame her knowing Margarine is such a crazy b+ch. And yes I spelled her name that because her name keeps saying margarine in my mind

true i agree

Margerie may have some dirt or would wail enough to drag Jessica in. Jessica is still guilty of pitching brian or the last person to See him well. And since margerie was still alive and would flail around to drag anyone to save her ass that was a genuine dirt to be flung at Jessica the moment she spoke. Margerie is basically having the American Psycho Syndrome. If you have elaborate murder you have they bragging rights that you wanna scream but can't. So when bill died she wanted the cathartic sensation of Telling how you got away with it.

Man, that's gotta be like, "finding out your elementary school teacher wound up the dictator of Italy during WWII" in terms of weird shit that happened to your teachers.

He was my shop teacher back in the days.. 814

That's crazy

I was wondering what he did for work, giving I imagine being a hoarder isn't cheap

@@kylienielsen6975 depends on what you hoard

I grew up there and moved away as soon as I was 18 in 2006, what would ever make you choose to move there??

Additional question: what year/age were you when this happened as opposed to the year/age you were when you moved to Erie?

And just to reiterate my initial question; WHY TF WOULD YOU EVER CHOOSE TO MOVE TO ERIE PA?!?! It’s called “dreary Erie” and “the mistake on the lake” for good reason

I live in Hawaii now, for about 5 years, and I’d legitimately rather be homeless here than ever move back to absolutely anywhere in the same time zone as Erie Pa or even the entire state of Pennsylvania, like can we all just agree it’s a depressing af place to be where no one should ever want or have to live

@@KennedyKay88 if it were my decision, I would have my family move down south instead. But, my parents were so keen on moving to Erie because of Pennsylvania's special needs education and erie had the despicable Barber Institute (very over-hyped and scandalous institution). I was about 14-15 ish when we moved over and I'm 23 at the moment.

Reality is stranger than fiction! You really can't write this stuff - an inevitable bomb, a bunch of the people not talking about it for YEARS, a treasure hunt, and a dude dead in a freezer.

That twist on the Unsolved video was such a nice drop

That's probably why people actually made a b movie heist movie out of the story.

"30 minutes or less" 2011 Seems like this is based on this case to me: Nick (Jesse Eisenberg) is a pizza deliverer who lives a fairly ordinary, boring life -- until he crosses paths with two aspiring criminal masterminds (Danny McBride, Nick Swardson), who kidnap him, strap a bomb to his chest and force him to rob a bank for them. Nick doesn't get much time to pull off the difficult task, so he enlists the aid of Chet (Aziz Ansari), his estranged pal. As time ticks away, Nick and Chet face many obstacles, not the least of which is their volatile relationship

Rather rude to say considering an innocent man ended up dead.

So you really think the bomb would have went off if they simply forced the neck piece open? The way he describes it makes it sound like just two pipe bombs hooked to a timer with a bunch of extra stuff added to mess with whoever attempted to disarm it. Seems like there was really only one key needed to release the neck piece. And it doesn't seem they had the know how to make it go off by the neck piece breaking

specifically you're reffering to the case of a woman held hostage by the FARC who ultimately died

@@neonicon8500 When you're defusing a bomb like that, you can't know that it won't go off from a forced removal, so you have to assume that it will.

Thanks, I am much more terrified now 😭 I guess we’ll have to build a robot for this too…

@ButylFox Oh yeah definitely not all cases, but the looks of this particular one, nothing looks like it's actually connected to the neck piece. Looks like it's just keeping me attached to the bomb. Plus the fact that the entirety of the neck piece looks metal and not electronic in any way.

This legitimately scared the S*** out of me. Terrified

Wendigoon jumpscare

@@easongoldman1011 typical Wendigoon W

It cracked me up so much for no reason that I replayed it four times.

@@thatpedanticcommenter5847 SAME!!!

Any other details on the ‘Fractured Intellectuals’ ?

Prep grad?

@@watchdev9446 sorry to butt in but i worked at a coffie shop in Erie that they would meet at perhaps 3 or 5 times. Bill was the weirdest of them for sure. I wonder now where he got clean at cause they didnt smell like a hoarder by any means. THey were all sorta dicks tbh

@@dropdeaddrawing how would you describe the town to someone that’s never been through PA? Did you grow up there?

@WatchDev As someone who's grown up in Erie, it's not a great town. I've heard it referred to as mini Detroit. Tom Segura has a great take on the 2 bears 1 cave podcast on the town if you want a great firsthand visitor reaction

As someone who also grew up in Erie, I totally can relate

I take my dad up there for eye appointments regularly and the Imperial Buffet by Sam's Club is nowhere near as good as the Old Country Buffet that used to be there. It's surprising this happened right in the same center.

Danm now I miss the old country buffet again

Shouldn’t completely forget somthing happens that’s how history repeats it self

@@wealldead Bro, this isn't the kind of case where "history repeats itself" lmfao

How do you have an internet connection on such a long trip? I don’t think I could drive 140 miles in any direction without dipping outside the grid at least a few times. Also oof, that much 4G gotta be expensive.

He’s definitely a hardworking, detailed genius. This video was delivered flawlessly!

Makes his videos great to sleep/nap too :)

She's still admitting to getting an innocent man in a bank heist

@@kylienielsen6975 I believe what OP meant with setting things right is clearing up that Brian was in fact an innocent, not her trying to atone personally for involving him.

So when it comes to Jessica hoopsick she's been in and out of institutions pretty much her whole life she was addicted to drugs at a very young age and if legend is to be believed or rumor she even sold her own daughter to get drugs I don't know how true that is but it's one of the things that I've heard locally the saddest thing about Jessica's part in the whole incident was the fact that at any point she could have warned Brian she could have warned him at any point during them knowing each other because not everything about the case is televised or well known outside of the local people and she knew what she was doing she was corrupted obviously her mind was clouded by drugs and in the end yes she did kind of regret what happened and she did hate herself for what happened.

Samsa pfp, hell yeah

@@donovincable5842 hey, just a heads up…there’s this thing called “punctuation”, & this cool facet of it is using this symbol -> . called a period. Without it, your comments come off a little illegible and hard to make sense of. Give it a shot, you’ll likely enjoy the results it produces!

@@christopherlowery3797 well since you want to comment on my diction and lack of grammar I am using text to speech which makes it very difficult for me to add punctuation and other stuff while I'm at work it'll turn a 1-minute post into a five-minute post adding all the punctuation so therein lies why it reads like a massive run-on sentence thanks for the grammar lesson oh and since you want to let you know, that my grammar you do realize that although it is allowed it is highly frowned upon to use a preposition at the end of a sentence you know like of. So maybe you should try practicing what you preach when it comes to grammar huh bud

@@christopherlowery3797 as well as I believe the term you're looking for is the cool facet of it is using this cool facet you see that's another grammar mistake you made also in your very first sentence your hey is not capitalized pretty sure it's supposed to be capitalized tho.

It's so that they can save PR probably; so that it doesn't look like they murdered an innocent person

It's a baffling response I see to a lot of victims of drug related crimes. Like ppl will think it's 'deserved' bc in their minds drugs are bad and if you do them, od-ing or dying bc of drug related crimes is YOUR fault and therefore you must've been a bad person to 'deserve' that kind of ending. I'm reminded of a crime video that I belive Disturbian covered where a woman who was connected to a lot of shady drug rings, and scammed a dangerous drug lord, was slowly tortured and had limbs chopped of by shears. And the comments were filled with weirdos going off about how 'she got what was coming to her' bc she wasn't a good person and scammed someone she knew was dangerous. It's...scary tbh. See it alot with disability issues too, with pundits going off about why should they care about the state of disability accessibility issues in cities. Like benches being taken away bc of homeless ppl. Or anti homeless/drug abuse architecture hampering accessibility, as if bc they aren't 1 bad car accident away from being disabled themselves (which shouldn't matter as to why they should care but it ties into the hatred and crimilization of homelessness as well)

“I know what I saw!” No, no you don’t. You know what you remember, and that shit is far from infallible.

The bomb was planned to be a false lead to make him seem innocence, that doesn't really work if there never was any notes for him to follow.

@@harz632 Never thought of it that way. Makes sense

i've lived in IE my whole life and had never heard of this. looked it up and am now hoping Wendigoon does look into it

I'm saving this comment to research later

Please

That’s a good suggestion, get this comment more likes. 👍

It wouldn’t be the only one, PoPoMedic has a very good video on the shooting

I wholeheartedly agree

The three of them would be the biggest cryptids wherever they go.

He's already done this, him and 2 other youtubers go into the Appalachian to learn about the floating light conspiracy

Shane?

@@dusk4974 Again, unsure, dont know who that is so I cant say for certain, but its good video where they talk to the locals and all that fun jazz.

EXActly what I was thinking, BEcause the stroy is told like Margery wanted to kill her dad, so they robbed a bank and killed brian to go forward from there. that bitch would of found a coupla grand to get the hit done no problem.

because they were dumb crackheads who learned how to make a pipe bomb

I guess that killing Brian off would lessen witnesses, and leave him in a location that is easy for them to get the money and leave without problem. The second question is what I can think of as margerie making things more complicated than need be, but idk

I don’t think they were supposed to be impossible, because the bank changed a policy right before the day of the robbery. Otherwise, Brian would’ve been able to get the full amount he needed and it wouldn’t have taken as long. Also, we’re talking about to extremely self-important people who *need* others to know how smart they are

@@kristaygayle If you watch the whole video, then you know the impossible part is the steps he had to do after the robbery itself, which wouldn't be impacted by changes in bank policy

Bro that's crazy. My dads side of the family lives up in Erie Pa. I'll have to ask them if they know about this(I'm sure they do lol because this story is wild.) I can't imagine living so close to something like this.

Of course it's frigging viral they robbed a BANK with a HOSTAGE *STRAPPED TO A BOMB*

This was kind of a big story or at least it was talked about when it happened because I remember hearing about it as an 11 year old. Hearing all of the details now is crazy but I'm glad Wendigoon covered it.

I lived in Erie for Several years and ended up working at this pizza place as a delivery driver for a few months. It was really sad seeing people come by and take pictures and act like it was some crazy fun thing to document. Like a bucket list wonder or something. We would tell them they were so disrespectful. I hated how people brought it up all the time. You could tell who wasn't a local.

Nice to see some other people from Erie

@@user-rt3yu5lw9n My brother lived in Erie for three while he did his residency. He and his co-workers used to order take out from the place all the time.

I was at working down the street from the incident when it happened.

@@user-rt3yu5lw9n Damn, that is morbid. Sorry you had to deal with those assholes, man

Beau of the fifth column. Very different type of content tho.

Serious question... are you saying that you cant watch/listen to anything just because it doesnt have jokes or tons of editing?

@@RealTroyE23 fck. Hahahah. I may have worded this incorrectly. I mean he can just talk without fancy edits/jokes and still keep it interesting. Does that make sense? My bad

@@RealTroyE23 yes

Kinda crazy how many times my family drove down that road next to Eyeglass World to bypass the intersection coming out of the Sam's Club plaza.

Ikr!! It’s not often people even mention our part of the country lol

@@adensavko2374 it’s crazy how everyone in Erie knows it for the weather being shit but the rest of America only knows about the Pizza Bombing

ngl everyone in this story feels like the most western Pennsylvania people to possibly exist

@@IR_Chaz ik weird ass feeling going by there, tho I was born at st Vincent a few months after the incident

I highly recommend the channel The Why Files

He get's at least a million views on every video he uploads, every bit of it well-deserveed

@@bullseye5202 100 percent! I hope he only grows even more in the future!

Gonna be the next Mr B Allen

Rising? I think he has risen along time ago

Not like it wasn't already on Netflix stating all of this lol.