Quack :)

can u make a video about datapack vs plugin

@@trilo_boy I second this idea

What text editor do you use?

Hey

Yea I was gonna say, there probably isn't a lot of NEW people hopping into mods yet, because of the recent resurgance, but once you go modded you CANNOT go back. I have a hard time staying in a vanilla save, but modpacks, especially questing ones, keep my attention a lot more.

@@majorphysics3669 i don't know between making datapacks or learning coding to make mods, what do you think is the best idea?

@@sanamite Well, if we're being honest, learning code is a great skill anyways, and having to know how to code is an automatic quality filter. All the best mods are next to impossible with a data pack.

It really depends what you want to do. If you are trying to make an big game change, make something epic with huge proportions and complexities, or you are trying to do something which changes the actual way the game works(as in the mechanics as opposed to the content) then do mods. If you are trying to add your own items and mobs and vehicles or more *content*, or maybe if you want to be able to easily play on servers or with friends, data packs may be the way to go.

thanks, i know what i'm going to do now.

If I Want to play with a friend in my map, he needs to install something? Like the mods. Or the datapacks are just commands and it is unnecessary?

@@orlandoneto1239 Unlike modded servers where every person playing has to install the said modpack, datapacks just need to be installed in the server directly, and that's it. So it's server friendly as it's server side rather than client.

The nutshell is imagine mods, but it uses already existing vanilla assets, therefore it is the easiest thing to use. Probably my favorite form of mods currently for the fact it is purely vanilla to begin with, which is one reason why I do enjoy minecraft, due to the immense support to things like this.

tbf the exact opposite of that is true

I think they both will be the future, but I still think data packs have a wider potential audience due to its approachability, and it is still partially held back by the intimidation around them brought over by mods. They are certainly confined compared to mods in terms of capabilities, however I actually see mods having to be installed to a version instead of a world to be a downside, since it is rare for people to have multiple world with the same mods, and I think being able to be used on the most recent versions of minecraft on a server without requiring other players to download anything would outweighs any benefit from it installing to client instead of world. The models in data packs can be clean, if implemented correctly. I will go more into detail in my animated models video for custom mobs when that comes out.

Putting mods and data packs together can make for an interesting experience

@@Agent47real that's what i'm doing for my next personal server actually!

About the single world thing, you can now actually "import" datapacks using the built in UI that was added in Java edition 1.16. Also, bedrock edition has it's own modding API (though, it is still more limited than JE mods)

yeah i know, but at least people know how to create datapacks now, i learned it WITHOUT needing the template and went the slow way instead of just downloading the template and putting in a pack.png file for extra cool

Agreed

Heffalump lol I just realized I sound like a bot. Im not btw

@@ambiennt he changed his name :o

Love love LOVE fabric. Though its still very fresh in its lifespan (meaning a Substantial Loss in variety of different mods) It has been a true Godsend for the modding community ~ absolutely can't wait to see what great minds can do with the tools in the future. And as a followup to your point on the pack community ~ it really has been booming. FTB and Tech reddits are all VERY healthy. and Cross communication between modpack communities (in my experience) has always been some of the most WELCOMING and insightful people in terms of helping out Noobies to any pack. I can't recommend to people enough ~ to in your time in minecraft try just one modpack. It is such a different experience to vanilla or even just making a mod list yourself. The variety and different playstyles or fantasies you can have in this game through modpacks is incredible. As an added bonus to said fun, It is insanely EASY and quick to install a modpack with things like the ATLauncher, MultiMC, and esspecially Twitch App (when the api is working that is lol) Truly a mind opening experience to how much you can do off just one game engine. Like honestly theirs things from RLCraft which is just RolePlay aspects magic, and death You've got all kinds of Different flavors of SkyBlock, Theyve even got a skyblock with no sky. Just BLOCKS everywhere lol (*stoneblock) And then there's things like Harvest Craft ~ essentially a whole new franchise of gameplay Mashing up Harvest Moon/Stardew valley in minecraft. Don't know what you want? Do some like Crazy Craft, All The mods, or MCEternal Just giant "Kitchen sink" packs fill with a bit of everything. Blows my mind how much it has all grown since the original tekkit classic days lol.

Thanks! I wanted to make sure that I included everything I wanted to include about data packs in the script. Good luck with your data packs!

also im into datapacks now so thanks :)

You can actually use them together to create mod-like things for servers

​@@bucketofjava5754 Yeah I was thinking of something like that. A combination with this, spigot and a resource pack you could make a really cool server.

@@astrixistheman I've actually experimented with procedurally generated resource packs, and the result is pretty cool.

​@@bucketofjava5754 ​ Procedurally generated resource packs. That sounds interesting. As far as i know theres no way to execute code with resource packs or data packs so is the pack generated procedurally then distributed?

@@astrixistheman Yes. It basically uses the File and the ImageIO API to create a resource pack and put it in the right place in the server, and then use Player.setResourcePack() and sometimes ItemStack.setModelData() to set it.

yeah I don't think that too

Yea i know right? Now im really looking forward to learning javascript i already make very nice models i Just need to make the code for them

Data packs dont actually use JavaScript. It uses json and minecraft commands. If you mean mods, i think they use Java, not javascript. Good luck with your projects!

Awesome! I really wanna see it, definitely going to try play it when you finish. Join my discord and show off what you are making, and maybe get some tips too!

@@TimberForge You can see the videos on my Channel. I have a Discord community as well

Awesome! Ill check it out.

Saaaaaaame

Rewriting of the mod is under development

Yes mods are much more optimized, usually. But that’s also partially because they require more skill to make and are harder to get into, so the type of people who are making mods are also the people who would be better at making an optimized data pack or mod or plugin or whatever else.

Pokeey lol

owo

Thanks so much!!

Ive heard forge/fabric is usually ok but spigot plugins can break it

From what I’ve heard, most modders(at least the ones on reddit) hate MCreator.

@@TimberForge Thats mainly due to the fact that it's easy of use and ease of learning has allowed for edgy children to create bad/generic mods, plus the fact that MCreator's easy to use features (blockly for example) are very limiting, so if you use those features I'd only recommend using MCreator as a learning/education tool for new modders or STEM students, or for people who just want to mess around with modding without learning java. But, it is possible to not use the easy to learn interface at all and just use the intergraded code editor and file explorer. This removes most of the limitations people gripe about, thus it is entirely possible to make a very advanced mod as if you made it on a traditional IDE. Provided you know java of course. Plus the fact that MCreator comes with really good features such as remote workspaces (allows more modders to work on a single project at the same time), automatically sets up gradle within minutes (or even seconds), easy management, importation, and even creation of sounds, textures (static and animated), structures, 3d models, and other resources. But with all of that said, I would still just use MCreator as a learning tool, as setting up a traditional IDE (although hard for new modders) will bring a lot more freedom to the modder.

Amazing! I wanna see what you add!

Link?

@@Beetless www.planetminecraft.com/project/mc-rollerworld-amusement-park/

@@CVerse thank you!

@@Beetless 👍 enjoy the park!

It’s technically possible

Definitely blocks, then data packs would basically match mods in terms of power.

@@TimberForge What about things like power though? I figure you could just use scoreboards attached to the items generating/storing/moving power I guess.

I meant the power to change the game, not like literal electricity lol. I meant that with custom blocks, data packs would have the potential to change the game almost as much as mods.

@@TimberForge Ah yeah I knew that, I was mostly pondering about whether that would be something else that could give a lot of power to change the game. Things like Gregtech, IC2, Botania, blood magic for example use their own measurable resource to make things work.

Awesome! I will eventually, but probably not tooo soon. I can explain the start of one way to do a custom mob though. 1. Choose a “base” mob that has similar movement style to what ur custom mob will do, and preferably targets or attacks in the same way(that is, if you aren’t making your own attacking system, which if you do, also won’t be tooo hard depending on what you are doing) 2. Use mcstacker.net’s summon tab to generate a summon command for a Minecraft mob that you choose as your “base” mob. Change attributes such as health and max health, attack damage, base movement speed, and other stuff like that depending on what behavior you want. Look closely, as many of the attributes are hidden behind other options u will need to press a button to expand. Make sure you give it invisibility status effect for infinite time. Make sure it has a custom entity tag so your commands can identify it, this is important for step 7. 3. Create a custom MODEL using my block bench tutorial, and assign it to any random item. 4. Create another summon command on mcstacker which summons an armorstand that contains your custom item on its head slot with the proper custom model data. The scaling might be off, so you might have to readjust the model in blockbench. Make sure you have a different custom entity tag. 5. Create a basic data pack using my tutorial template. 6. Create a function which contains just two commands: your base mob summon command which you made in step 2, and the command from step 4. 7. In the loop file of the data pack, put one command which teleports all of the armorstand stocks the nearest base mob. Here’s the command: Execute as @e[tag=ArmorstandTagYouMade] at @e[tag=BaseMobTagYouMade] run to @s ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Now if you run the command /function yourpack:yoursummoncommand then it should summon a base mob and the armorstand with the model, and the data pack loop command will keep them together. That’s how I did my duolingo data pack. Adding custom abilities is also something you could add to the mob if you are somehow able to quickly create a custom mob from these typed instructions lol. Also, I just typed this up so I may have forgotten to include something. Join my discord if you have questions, either someone else or I could help you depending on the time and timezone stuff.

@@TimberForge Thanks for all the info! I actually just joined the discord under the name TheLastBlockbender. Keep up the great work dude, this is awesome!

Thanks!

Yup!

If you have played custom maps with your friends after 1.13, theres a chance you have already used it

I dont know much about addons but they are basically bedrock’s versions of data packs from what I have heard. Not sure if they are entirely server side and can be used multiplayer though.

Planetminecraft has a dagapack section, the data pack center, and also curseforge has data packs under “customizations”.

Timber Forge cool thanks dude I’ll look into it

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Vs code for full data packs and sublime text to quickly open json files.

I dont think (and dont hope) that data packs will completely replace mods, but I think that it could be the next generations of mods in terms of the youtube popularity and fascination of it, like what we had with mods in 2012-2016? Back then, everyone wanted to download a bunch of little mods to try out and youtubers were showing off many small mods like too much tnt, furniture, mutant creatures, creatures+, and extra food items, many of which can now be done with the more accessible data packs.

@@TimberForge In that sense, I think it's already been done as they jumped to one commands and then to datapacks. Again, good job on the video!

Oh yeah! Should have mentioned those one command creations!

Did you check what version it requires?

Yep, it's really easy to include datapacks inside mods. Most mods I'm aware of use them for advancements and loot tables

You should be able to. But the mods would have to be from a version where the data pack was created, and for sure after 1.13.

@@TimberForge thanks