Airbus aren't stupid. They declined application because they knew it would never happen. The US president in a non American built jet would never fly😂

$5 Billion is the total PROGRAM COST, not the cost of the airplanes alone. Program cost is airframes, the modifications but also maintenance for a specified period of time. The Presidential aircraft are maintained on a 25% duty cycle for enhanced safety. Lets say a part is certified for 10,000 cycles on a commerical plane that part is replaced on the Presidential fleet at 2500 cycles. That enhanced safety regime is part of the Program Cost.

Air Force One should definitely keep the same color format, because it is one of the most recognizable color schemes in the world.

“Biden force one” We aren’t calling the 747s the Bush force now, are we?

It seems a little weird to get rid of in-air refueling, isn't that basically essential in the event of a war or if there's mechanical problems on board?

Actually that 5 billion buys 2 of them.

The Raymond Loewy designed livery is iconic and shouldn't be changed.

1:55 while it is true that the average life expectancy for a 747 is 30 years, that is for one kept in commercial service. These planes have MUCH less usage than one flying every day for an airline. They should be able to get twice, if not more than that from these planes

I think that it will be painted in the original scheme like the previous aircraft. Its very recognizable!

I thought the ability to refuel midair was a massive advantage of the jet, doesn't it seem like a big loss? I thought of it as a feature hopefully never to be used but the fact that it could gave power and security

I really think it needs to be derived from the 747 again. There's just a presence and prestige to them you can't get from other Boeing models.

Boeing is due to deliver it's last commercial 747's in 2022, to Atlas Air. A cargo airline. If the new Air Force One's are delivered in 2024, the will be the last 747's ever made. Which I guess is a more fitting end to one of the most iconic aircraft ever to fly.

I love the 707 design with the black nose. Looks so cool.

The planes used as AF1 frequently practice touch and go landings at PHF. It is so neat to see the easily recognizable livery as it flys over Hampton Roads.

The Dover AFB Mobility Command Museum should be the final home for one of these aircraft.

I have seen two of the former Air Force 1 planes. The one in Seattle and the one in Simi. The one in Simi Valley was stored in Riverside before it went there. I saw it in both places. Regarding the new ones lacking mid air fueling; I don't think they need it. Those planes can go 10,000 - 12,000 miles with full tanks.

Jen Psaki was asked about the color of Air Force One. She said she’d get back to reporters. Any updates?

For those that have to fly and fight in the air, there's a very good reason to have four engines and mid-air refueling for the President's plane.

Keep the livery the way is. It’s more recognizable all over the planet.

Trump approved it at $4B. Biden added a diaper dispenser which jacked the price.

Can we try and stop normalising this trend of calling every head of state’s private aircraft “(their name) force one”? It’s very irritating and inaccurate.

The approach to Airbus was never anything more than an attempt to keep Boeing honest.

To the best of my recollection, no previous version of Air Force One has ever been referred to -- even informally -- by the name of an individual President. Why "Biden Force One" now?

I grew up 30 minutes away from dc and most of the time I will get to see Blackhawks, Marine one, and Air force one fly over my city.

The classic paint scheme was historic, it should never have been changed. The current paint looks like a common low budget airline.

getting rid of air-to-air refueling is a huge mistake.....

I was at the USAF museum in Ohio today on got to see one of the former Air Force One's, even got to tour the interior

the longstanding air force blue color scheme is classic with the Air Force.

“Get off my plane”

Keep the traditional livery. It is classic and looks awesome. Why mess with perfection!

The new livery isn’t bad, but the classic livery is iconic. Plus we have other planes that use that scheme as well.

Will there be an emergency pod in it like in Air Force 1 or escape from NY

I wonder if there will be a president eject system like the movie Air Force One

There’s no way that new livery will ever be used. Nobody’s letting HIM design AF1.

I like the idea of having at least one supersonic airplane accessible to the President! Boom Supersonic, are you up for the task? It would make quite an entrance!

The livery will stay as it is currently

As I understood at the time, Airbus was very pissed of at the biased tanker selection of the B767 over the A330 and decided not to put a bid in. They concluded their bid would only be used to lower Boeings price and would not thus be worth their effort.

Fortunately, it will almost certainly end up in the beautiful current paint scheme, not the proposed "update" that harkened back to the last one TWA had before they went bankrupt.

Jackie is credited with the color scheme but it was done to help the plane blend in with the sky depending on the angle it could be viewed from. I think Vanta Black would be cool for absorbing radar waves. But, it would get extremely hot. I like the idea of Boom making a presidential supersonic jet.

Hard to believe the current models only have one APU. In almost every disaster type crash it seems the APU is put out of commission in half of them and is mandatory for controls to landing the plane.

The original color scheme was created by industrial designer Raymond Loewy. It has changed slightly through the years as new aircraft were delivered. Many think that the Kennedy 707 was the first and only 707 until the new 747 based Air Force One was delivered, there were 2 others. You can see subtle changes upon each delivery. The livery for the new jets to be delivered in 2024 should stay the same. It is instantly recognizable as Air Force One, and has always represented the United States well. As far as which presidential libraries should be given the 2 jets available, George W Bush, And Barack Obama should, in my opinion be selected since they had the jets for 2 eight year terms.

Fitting a Stennah stairlift would be mission critical.

Any information on the AF 1 is good..

Interesting that they are not including the mid ear refueling. I would like to see the classic livery used with maybe a few minor tweaks.

Leg Hair Force One

I had a couple different opportunities to see the current 747 Air Force One aircraft. In my younger days I was in Salina Kansas when these jets were being tested while still in their bright green primer paint. They did several touch and goes while I was on the ramp near by. Very impressive, especially to the young kid I was then. More recently President Obama made a visit to the small town where I now live so I got to see one of them pretty close again at my town's small little airport but now of course in full livery. Again, very impressive to the old guy I am now.

Bless you

In an interview years ago with A group of ex presidents. The interviewer asked what the best part of being president was. Bill Clinton answered with the agreement of the others, “ it’s that damn plane”!

If they are telling us all this, I wonder what they are not telling us.

Air Force 1 is a CALLSIGN, not a jet. :)

Why would the midair refueling capability be changed?

a380 for AirForceOne would be epic

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Please don't change the color scheme. The air force one livery is amazing as it is

went through 27000 at the Reagan library- 707. One word? cramped. Packed like sardines. The presidential "office" is about the size of a postage stamp. The "bed" reminded me of a small two cushion love seat. I contemplated a trip from Washington to Moscow like Nixon and Reagan took using 707's. While looking around, I started feeling claustrophobic. I suppose that is one of the hazards of being commander in chief.

i hope the Air Force One paint wont change because I like the current one

Years ago, changed from "Andrews AFB" to "Joint Base Andrews"

The a380 would never be a Air Force plane because resin number one [ITS NOT MADE IN AMERICA]

I think the information you are telling us is like 10% of the the whole thing so I think good stuff that's amazing

I would doubt that when it rolls out it doesn't have mid air refueling

This has been the most accurate coverage of VC-25B that I have seen!!!

Building an Airbus for Air Force One would have been absolutely asinine - I'm glad that's not going to happen. Nothing against Airbus but Air Force One needs to be American made.

"this is so expensive" *wants the interior to be much more lavish.*

I think but I am not sure, you can retro fit an AR system into an existing airframe.

The two current VC-25As desperately need to be replaced because they're getting old.

Revert the livery color scheme back to the original

Is the cost per plane and does it include ready spares (consumable parts such as motors, engines, flight control surfaces, tires)? Glad that they didn’t go with an Airbus, as too many parts are European and a military aircraft as with any vehicle benefits greatly from domestic abilities to supply it.

Hardened fuselage shell? So basically rebuilding the thing from scratch. And don’t mess with the Raymond Loewy paint scheme.

Will be fun to see how badly Boeing screws this one up. The KC-46 tanker (based on a 40 year old design) is years and years behind schedule and almost completely unusable until at least 2023. Our defense industry, from ships to jets, is an absolute joke anymore.

In 1961, Jackie Kennedy enlisted the services of famed industrial designer Raymond Loewy to design a new livery for Air Force One. His design remains to this day. After 60 years, the design looks as fresh as ever and should never be altered.

If they keep the traditional livery, the should modernize it a bit.

It's definitely not "Biden Force One". Just "Air Force One" when POTUS is aboard.

1.) 5 billion is cheap considering that includes two units as well as testing and the hanger. 2.) They should have kept the refueling system. 3.) The older livery looks better than the mind-blowingly antique looking livery Trump suggested. 4.) However i think the older livery isn't all that great either. 5.) They should cut down on the additional expenses to make it more luxurious and redirect those savings to make the craft more secure and advanced.

I don’t like the proposed new livery. It’s way too commercial and resembles past TWA and USAirways liveries.

If the 747X existed, I would want that as Air Force One.

8:57 as far as the livery or color scheme goes, I would stick with the traditional blue/white colors and paint job design but with some minor red color incorporated into it

dang, it's pretty cool that an aircraft might get retired 2 miles away from me.

KEEP THE TRADITIONAL PAINT SCHEME.

Does it have MCAS???

Should keep in-flight refueling (seems idiotic to remove that), and should have a presidential escape pod. Worked for Harrison Ford, so good enough for any president.

I hope Biden keeps the traditional livery. It's classy.

I do wish they keep the Jackie Kennedy livery, rather than switch them over to what kinda looks like a flying toothpaste container.

I think a B777X would be a cool replacement for the Air Force One 😊

787 would have been a world class platform for world leaders

Where's my stimulus check 😠❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓

Does this one come with an escalator?

The fitout cost ten times what the jet cost to build? Does it shoot down nuclear missiles or what?

Mid-air refueling might seem essential but a standard 747-8 can fly for 17-18 hours with regular fuel capacity and perhaps much longer if it was attempting to stay aloft and not trying to get to a specific destination - flying for max endurance vs. flying for maximum range. The air force 1 version of the 747-8 probably has additional fuel capacity too.

The new livery looks like I was designed by Colgate

Return to the traditional color scheme. It what makes so well recognized and respected (not always the occupant) in the world

Not having in air refueling capability is seen as a weakness if war does break out for obvious reasons !

Built in Memory-Care Facility for Biden, nice touch.

Trump: I refuse to fly on a $4Billion aircraft Also Trump: I want bigger beds and a lavish interior This is absolutely paradoxical

Holy cow there coming back with super sonic wow.

I believe the new aircrafts will be painted in the iconic blue and white livery.

I hope he keeps the original iconic paint job

It’s interesting to see all the possibilities that were taken into consideration for a newer AF1. That said, I never knew that Airbus was approached for a modified presidential A380, but I’m not surprised to hear that they rejected the proposal. Considering that all U.S. presidential aircraft were exclusively Boeing, I think it would have caused a huge controversy among the people, that and most likely politics were involved. Still would have been interesting to see an A380 AF1. I also didn’t know that USAF is partnered with Boom for presidential supersonic travel. I’ve always loved the Concorde and glad there are a few companies including Boom tat are heavily invested into brinGING back supersonic travel. From the looks of it, it seems even more possible of becoming a reality. Despite how the pandemic has crippled many fields (including aviation), there are still some innovations with bright and exciting futures ahead. I look forward to the new AF1, Boom, and anything new in the aviation industry.

life expectancy is measured in hours and cycles at Boeing, not years.

They in no way need a new 747 as long as it continues to fly, use it

Make it a 777X & tell the press to pay for their own tickets or take an older 767 just for the press. If the president needs to do a press conference I'm sure they could do it by "zoom"