No, I agree. I don’t believe that a “ normal” woman would abuse a child fir a man. When my son was about ten my boyfriend said something. It was something I couldn’t quite put my finger on, I think he was testing me out. I kicked his ass to the curb and never saw him again. My son is now 33 and I would still protect him if need be

If some bloke wanted me to abuse anyone especially a child, I’d automatically go to the police.

Hi Emma. My daughter is a HMP prison officer at a woman’s prison. I was quite taken aback when she told me that a you would be shocked at the number of female peodophile that are in custody. Good channel , well done.

I was molested by a woman at daycare. I still have nightmares about it (early 90s) 3 decades later. Some of the most heinous offenders in my experience were women. I would never be able to do this to a child, breaks my heart

I heard a case of a guy who walked in to his friend molesting a child and he never saved her, he just walked out and didn't want to get involved...and justified it with the fact that he "didn't know her" ......JUST AS BAD in my opinion.

I was in jail with her. In my early twenties. I was in for three month for growing weed. Not proud of it. However she was escorted around the jail with two officers everywhere she went. She was completely protected by officers a luxury us smaller criminals did not have.

I’m a female CSA survivor that was abused by a female. My abuser had/has very narcissistic traits, like you mentioned. Based on my experience, that hypothesis is spot on. I’ve noticed most CSA cases lean towards men are the worst and women are angels and I *do not* agree with that. Because of this narrative, for a long time I convinced myself that what I suffered wasn’t actually abuse because the perpetrator wasn’t a male. I appreciate the opinion of pedophilia being a mental illness and being framed in that light, because that has been proven to be the case but many find it too uncomfortable or polarizing for many to talk about. Pedophiles do very much have a predisposition for being attracted to children and I do feel that this is a pattern that has been shown in cases where older children offend against younger children or attempt to. I don’t think you can convince any person, regardless of gender, that doesn’t already have a predisposition towards children to SA a child. This video seems to have a certain candidness and openness that I haven’t found in other UKpostsrs that I frequently watch. I really appreciate the research that’s been done and I can see that you’ve devoted a lot of time to it, as you’ve formulated a well thought out opinion based on the evidence at hand. I just subscribed and am excited to watch your older content and new content as it drops!

I was a child in the 90s and I remember that abuse/assault was hushed up and teachers would even get angry at you for saying something. When I was 11 an older boy would keep sneaking up on me in the hallway or trying to get my alone somewhere and touch me inappropriately, sometimes in front of his friends and they just laughed about it. I tried to tell someone but was just called a snitch and a troublemaker and told it's just because I was already so "developed" for my age and I had to get used to boys being interested. It was such a nightmare, I ended up switching to another school because at least my parents listened.

I don't think you just wake up one day and go straight to extreme abuse, I think she definitely worked up to it over a few years

"How do you get cured of being sexual attracted to children" Easy, the death penalty.

Before my kids went to preschool I taught them how to keep safe from a child predator.. I told them that unless you've had an accident an peed your pants and a teacher is helping you get changed into clean clothes, no one is allowed to try and touch or look at your private parts.. I told them to hold their hand in the air and shout "stop pervert, I don't like it" and run to another teacher for help.. I don't think it was inappropriate but a lot of other mums and dad disagree with me and think I should not of taught my kid's that and tried to tell me I'm worrying over nothing, kids are safe in preschool. They also said I was teaching my kids to be scared of the world and making them lose their innocence !! I vehemently disagree and after seeing this I'm so glad I took the time to teach them.. getting molested would have taken more innocence and my kid's have suffered adverse effects to their well being from knowing they're not always safe from predators without me!

As a survivor of child abuse thank you for your commitment to this purpose.

‘Taking a second toy into the nursery’ is a phrase that will haunt me for life. It’s one of those sentences nobody should ever have to say, hear or read. Those poor kids, I can’t accept the fact that she is out. I am not ok with that at all.

The other victims were Vanessa George’s family. Her husband was in shock about her crimes and she had kids also. Needless to say her husband divorced her and her kids disowned her.

I went mental when my partner's mate said my daughter was fit!! She was 17 but I still went mental. She was a little girl to a 40 year old as far as i was concerned. This case is horrendous and she should have had a much bigger sentence. The poor mothers must be besides themselves, even today

I was sexually abused from the age of 6 to 10 by my father after My parents split up, and was continuously left with 'uncles' (i.e. strangers I'd never seen before) by my narcissistic mother, including her many boyfriends and finally my stepfather until I left home at 16. I never understood why this happened to me & not my sister. However, my mum always used to comment to people how she used to be the beautiful one that everyone looked at & wanted but now its 'her' (me) even though I was only 13 at the time, & my dad always used to say how he couldn't look at me because I reminded him so much of my mum who he hated. I grew up with crippling insecurities, body dysmorphia, anorexia and other mental illnesses because I hated the way I looked because it brought me nothing but pain, bullying & punishment. After watching this video I now know the reason why my mother put me through what she did & to a point, why my father did also, so thank you Emma. You've helped me more in 25 minutes than 20 years of therapy did! X

Didn't Vanessa also refuse to reveal which children she had abused? That's just another layer of evil.. for the parents, the not knowing and reality you'll probably never know

I’m from Plymouth and went to school with her two daughters it was such a shame for them! Luckily no one bullied them and everyone was actually on their side cause they had no idea!

So glad you covered this case because there is so many female sex offenders my friend is adopting two little girls that were sexually abused by their own mother and now she has another child and they let her keep it the system is just all messed up thank you for giving these children a voice

She should have received a sentence of at least 20 to 25 years in my opinion, there's no way that she's been rehabilitated in such a short time, God bless all her victims I hope they are doing well and that life is good

I agree, even the weakest minded, most easily led, desperate to please woman could not be coerced into abusing or harming a child unless she already had a predisposition to this behaviour.

I agree with you Emma, that woman can’t be coerced to hurt a child. They choose to be evil.

Superb podcast. I was a TA at the time of this vile woman’s arrest and the feeling amongst my colleagues and myself was ‘do parents think we work with children to do this kind of thing’ I personally believe, she should never be free.

I was a preschool teacher for 10 years and I genuinely loved all the children I cared for, I could NEVER imagine harming them in any way, let alone view them as anything other than someone else's child that I cared for, protected, educated and I was grateful to do so...... this is just sick, how could you look at a child and be attracted to them, no just NO😳 I've also been in a 15 year relationship and I'm far from bored haha, in fact I'm more in love today than I was when I first met him, thank goodness 👍🏻 There's just NO excuse for this kind of behavior, children are our greatest and most valuable asset which we need and should protect at all costs!!!!!!!

Really impressed that you have spoken about older female to younger male abuse as I feel this is really overlooked and somehow more acceptable than when it's the other way round when it's actually just as bad... I have and continue to be a huge fan of Emma and her channel and enjoy the content and psychological analysis as well as her contemporary way of thinking and talking...lots of love and respect x hope to see your take on Josef Fritzl one day x

I love that Emma's true crime videos are so very different from others out there, in that she delves deeply into the background of the perpetrators and it's very interesting and informative to have that perspective.

I cannot overstate how touching it is to have someone talk about this case in such an informed way. I was a victim of female-perpetrated abuse myself and so many 'advocates' treat victims of this crime with mockery or even scorn.

Why do these predators get such short sentences in the UK????????? Why is there no lifelong registry? This is absolutely disgusting. So excited to discover your channel, I remember watching you on crimes that shook Britain, you're awesome and I agree with so much of your perspectives. thank you for sharing your insights!

I'm looking forward to this video. I live in the South West and she is a despicable and highly dangerous woman. You always present the stories in a unique and fascinating way. Please don't ever stop sharing your talents with us

If I had such impulses or desire, I would take myself out of this world before I'd ever ACT on the impulse to SA a child. There is ZERO excuse.

I really like you. I watch a ton of true crime youtubers, but you are different. You are compassionate, detailed, informative, and very intelligent. You have a very interesting perspective to add to these horrible tales. Glad I found you here.

Emma, please remember never to refer to CSAM as “child porn”. It’s not pornography in any way. It’s should always be called Child Sexual Abuse Material or Images.

I have to agree. The idea that someone could convince a "normal" sane minded person into hurting or abusing a child is complete bullshit. The second someone approached the subject in any way shape or form would be the end... and I'm not just talking about the relationship... I would literally end them.

That reminds me of the French president who's now married to his teacher with whom he had a relationship since he was 15

Just found your channel, and I love your content. There are a lot of true crime youtubers, but very few that are worth watching. You seem to be one of the good ones. You handle the case respectfully, especially where the victims are concerned, and I respect that.

my first video I’ve seen from your channel & it’s super duper interesting and informative. I’m definitely interested in more ! keep up the great work !!! ✨

When I was 13, my male friend of 14 had a " girlfriend" who was 26. To this day he sees her as his first gf not the abusive pos she was. He still says he was mature for his age and she beleived he was 19. No way in hell does a 14 year old boy look like a 19 year old . Shes walking around like a normal person to this day. Female perpatrators need to be studied I fear its worse than we know.

Abuse coming from females is really nasty. My abusers were family and females and it has really made my life difficult.

Thank you so much for talking about this and bringing light to this issue. My abuser was a female caregiver when I was very young. As a male myself, It’s weird thinking back to it now, because at the time I was just scared and confused as to what was happening more than anything else. It was a nursery in her home and I just have the horrible memory of all of us (other kids she was “caring” for) sitting in a room all naked and not knowing what was happening. I remember being scared and filled with shame. It wasn’t until much later that I realized what was happening. The idea still haunts me to this day, not having a full recollection of what she may have done to us. I honestly see that as a blessing in disguise cause I really would rather not know. I always kind of felt that it wasn’t true abuse since I am male and my abuser was a female, so I definitely understand where that notion comes from. Also, the thing about the 90s where everything surrounding this issue of SA was kind of hush hush I think holds true for my case, since this would have been sometime in the early 2000s (I was born in 2000 and would’ve been around 3 or 4 at the time). When I talk to my dad about it, he kind of just blows it off, like its not a big deal or I was “imagining things”. Like idk what you were imagining when you were 3 or 4 but I seriously doubt this is something I would have ever “imagined” on my own

This is the first video of yours I've watched but I love it so much! It's so much different than other true crime stuff, i love that you research things beyond the actual case. Super interesting

My father was a pedophile. I agree that they are born like this. I almost threw up listening to some of this but I wanted to hear your thoughts. When my dad was on his death bed, he had been in a coma. I was there as I had to support my mom, even though I have my own issues with her. He reached out and grabbed her arm aggressively and mom thought he was aware. He wasn't. I like to believe he saw what was coming for him...

Agree 100% that watching child pornography ist also active child abuse and it is just disgusting that children are used for the entertainment of those sickos. And there is no way pedophiles can be cured or something like that, they stay preditors forever. And yeah, there are a lot of women as well, I think there are more than most think. I pray for those little souls having to go to such a horror and for the parents in pain!🙏🏻

I had a registered childminder look after my 3yr old (she’s 22 now). When I went to pick her up one day she was sobbing & begged not to go there again, so I never took her again. She was extremely social & this was out of character. A few months later the childminders husband was charged with having grade 4 child porn on his computer, even had photos of his own step daughter. To this day I have terrible thoughts of what that monster may have done to my daughter. I never used a child minder ever again after that. These silly checks they do mean nothing!

I have been abused by males and females. Thank you for bringing awareness, so many people forget women can do it too

My twin and I were both victims of a female pedophile, I don't know why we feel so much shame when we talk about it but I took me years to tell my husband that my molester wasn't really a guy infact it was a older female cousin.

I have extensive experience working in forensic psychiatry and I have been involved in the delivery of sex offender treatment. In my professional experience, individuals with a primary sexual interest in children do not respond to treatment. Enjoying your channel.

My step uncle is a pedo and I was left alone as a baby with him. And was around him up until the age of 4 when his daughter and her friend told people what happened to them at 4 years old…. My mom said I was only Left alone with him for 15 minutes when I was 6 months or so. But it’s hard to imagine he didn’t take the opportunity to abuse me. I think she tells me and herself that because it makes her feel better. I think any pedo will take any opportunity given… I obviously hope that he didn’t abuse me but I’ll never really know. Besides him. Be careful out there he’s back in prison for a year or so because he was dating a woman with two young children. His name is Robert Andrew Goldenstein. He’s in prison in Wisconsin. But once he gets out he will Most definitely go back to Idaho. Most likely twin falls Area. Watch out this man doesn’t think he did anything wrong. He is dangerous and doesn’t obey his probation orders. It’s scary out there guys stay safe.

Thanks Emma for all that you do! Honestly such a deep dive into each case, but full of wisdom throughout! I really appreciate all you do 😘🤩 Great name btw! Lots of love, support and prayers for you to continue what you do-from rural Ireland, Happy Saint Patrick's day 🎉💚 Em x

“Billy Bullshit” Oh my god, I love the Brits!! 😂

Expecting a child molester's predilection for sexual activity with children to be changed by a prison sentence is about as realistic as expecting punishment to 'cure' homosexuality. The only possible fix is to permanently remove these people from any possible contact with children. I don't know exactly what effect chemical castration has - is it possible to completely remove all sexual urges from a human being? If so that may be an option but it doesn't deal with the sadism part of child abuse.

I live in Plymouth. It angers me that this woman is free and was allowed to change her name. She doesn't deserve anonymity. No normal person would do this for a man or for any reason.

You are the most authentic TC content provider on here. Bravo. It's very much appreciated.

I actually went to school with a girl who was jailed afew years ago for making what was deemed the worst case of child pornography ever seen in recent years, people actually said that she only did it to please her partner, no I don't believe that at all, no one in their right mind would do that, she clearly always had those thoughts there.

Vanessa George just hadn’t been caught before this, I completely agree that she placed herself with children so she had access to abuse them, just looking at their mugshots makes me feel absolute rage 🤢🤬Thankyou for your videos though Emma they’re so fascinating 🧐 xx

I'm really glad you covered this. It's not talked about enough and it's far too common. I think your on point on this one.

I’ve just discovered your channel. I’m subscribed and look forward to seeing more. This story is the reason I won’t go anywhere without my children. I share custody with their father, every moment I think of their safety. I might sound over the top, but, due to my own childhood trauma… I won’t risk my kids for a second!

She's in the same league as the woman who gave her child to Ian Watkins.

Emma, you have a natural gift to explain these horrendous crimes in a way that keeps us enthralled each week. Amazing uploads keep them coming xxx

Emma, you're an incredible human being covering cases like this. I admire you. Hard to watch, of course but it needs to be said and done for the poor kids getting justice. Breaks my heart 💔

Omg this has helped my mental illness as my mother was in denial when her new husband when I was 8 made me do things I did not understand. She took his side you have helped me so much thankyou Emma

In terms of male-led sexual abuse, I'd suggest looking into Onision. He started grooming and ended up marrying a fan of his. They got together when the fan was 14 and then, after they got married, the fan (Kai), started looking for victims for both of them.

Unfortunately I'm related to a female child sex offender, specifically my maternal grandmother. I absolutely agree that a man can not convince a woman to abuse her children unless she already would have. My grandmother likes to hide behind the excuse of a man in her life, even though she perpetrated the abuse both before men would come into her life, as well as after. It's 100% unchangeable in my opinion. Some people are just born evil, and all we can hope is that their last moments may be filled with as much suffering as they caused throughout their lives. Many will say that's a bit to morbid. But as someone related to a predator, it's much to generous.

Really enjoyed listening to your musings, lots of thoughts brought up that provoke lots more question - just subbed!

The best crime channel hands down love Kennys crime cult. Thank you Emma xxx

This happened in my home town, I have lived just down the road from this nursery. I find it so shocking to see this so close to home. She is one evil woman, no one can be talked into doing these kind of things. Can't believe she only served 10 years in prison.

Please look at the periwinkle case in the USA where a mum has her daughter taken from Walmart when a stranger promised her a gift voucher it’s unbelievable.

New listener. I just love how you present your stories.

I was heavily groomed online as a child. (10 - 13 yrs old). I did everything they asked, sent pictures of myself doing whatever they wanted. I was desperate for the attention/affection, no matter the cost to myself. But as soon as one of them told me to molest my younger sister, I drew the line. I lied to them and said that I did it because the attention I was getting was so valuable to me at the time, but when they asked for pictures I logged out of my AOL account and never logged back in. There was never once a debate in my mind whether or not to do it, it was beyond the realm of possibilities for me to do that. I wouldn’t and I couldn’t. Remember, I was an impressionable, very desperate child and STILL could not be convinced to molest another child. So I 100% agree with Emma…. There is no chance in hell a person could be coerced into abusing/molesting a child. Vanessa HAD to have had a predisposition to child abuse, there is NO WAY she, as a functioning adult, could have been coerced into doing something so vile and heinous. No way.

I love how you just say what you think and the thought of anyone hurting any child makes me sick 😡if anyone put one finger on my kids or grandchild i would rip there head off !! Keep up the great work 💕

It's Emma time!!! One of my abusers was a woman, I struggled much more with this abuse than the abuse of my father. I still struggle with the shame of her abuse.

Hi! I love your channel. Really like the way you tackle this in an evidence based framework. Can you share the reference you made to predators being able to tell their prey while walking? Really good work! Thanks for all the love you put into this 🫶🏻

I’ve the news article and reporting on this and she is almost always just seen as “ coerced”. It’s really refreshing to see someone call out that there is also a high chance she was always this sick

This will be a good one. I’m loving these videos. Emma explains things so clearly. Keep them coming ☺️👍🏻

Been waiting for someone to do a video on her for so long!!! Can't believe how little people talk about it. Thank you 💕

Just found this channel today, and it's great. Subscribed!

I was sexually assaulted by an adult woman when I was 11 years old. It happened once,them twice and I told my mom and she just laughed in my face as if she didn't believe me. Then I told my dad and he pulled off his belt and beat me into a corner and threatened to kill my mom while I watched. So the abuse continued on for 5 years.

Bravo, Emma! Nailed it again. I was nervous about this one. I, like too many others, have my own trauma and sensitivities around this subject. I had no reason to be nervous because you dealt with it SO perfectly- I sensed it was to protect the families of the victims and your audience, I really appreciated that 🙏

I think you’re right. It was the worst people meeting at the “perfect” time. It’s like Karla Holmolka and Paul Bernardo- they were both horrible people by themselves, but then they met each other and it went downhill fast. They enabled each other.

I am glad you made the disclaimer about people in general being truthful, for example, joining a group Against Child Abuse. It´s a very delicate subject because it could be confused with stereotyping or generalization.

I'm so glad I discovered this channel!

I've been in coercive relationships, my father was a sadistic pedophile who left me with no self esteem etc so I've always been attracted to bullies in the past without realising it and I've been controlled and coerced in the all kinds of things but there is no way on this earth that I would have stooped so low as to hurt a child. So I agree with you on the coercion thing 😊

So true Em. I couldn't touch a child, even with a gun to my head. You have to have some predilection towards it, because with us normal people, the thought is abhorrent. X

I only heard of you through watching Britain's darkest taboos,had no idea you have a channel. As someone who follows alot of true crime channels I'll definitely be binge watching all of these

You are an amazing insightful human, I have subscribed and am loving your content x

Emma Kenny, talking true crime, in a Pantera t-shirt. Hell yeah! 🤘🏻

She lived opposite me in Plymouth!!! Just goes to show you never really know your neighbours!

Sexual preference is not the same as sexual deviance. Them trying to spin it as a preference is sick. The difference is if you are a gay child, you are attracted to other people of the same sex of similar age. If you are a gay adult (and not also a pedo) you are attracted to other people of the same sex of similar age (within reason). This is like saying rape is a sexual preference, not a crime.

Finally watching this legendary case… wow, this was fascinating. Great job and loving the channel

I love that your true crime videos are so different from everybody else! I love the way you present yourself and the stories

So true, it's normal to instinctively protect children with our lives, even if they aren't our own. Found myself running on to a road to catch a toddler darting on to the road, without considering risk to myself. Most people would do the same.

Awesome journalism! 👍🏼😎Heard about this case and came across your channel, new subscriber here! P.S. You're beautiful & intuitive 💕

Emma you are not alone! Thank you for your videos.

Loving your shirt💕 You do a great job on talking about these cases. Very fluid, and a pleasant experience on a not so pleasant topic. Your thought processes are very relatable as well.

This also reminds me of the Barbie and Ken killers. How the police believed it was all the husband, and when they found their homemade video tapes they realized - too late - that she was a huge contributor. But they gave her immunity before that.

This is terrifying I have a kid just starting nursery and honestly trust no one these days. People can be nice as pie to your face but you just don’t know them. More accountability between staff is needed they need to keep eyes peeled for this type stuff. They defo go into these professions for a reason

Very interesting, thank you for making 🤯

Really do love the way you tell these stories and get into all the avenues and some of the psychology of it. So glad i found this channel 😊 Also, love the Pantera shirt!!

The fact that she's never named the children she abused makes it even more disgusting that she was released after serving just 10 years.

Thank you for not blaming children who have been abused into the pool of those who t then s abuse! I was SA ‘d , I-hate being thrown into the pool of the predators. It honestly breaks my heart to be thought of in that way xxx

How did I think I was Emma Kennys biggest fan and only realised she had a UKposts channel? Who am I? I’m ashamed of myself.