And Hollywood still gives Polanski standing ovations led by Streep proving just how repugnant those hills can get.
@mickeyandres26513 місяці тому
@@splinejones4489 , You’re absolutely right I saw her defend him, it’s repugnant and very telling on her part….. Hollywood is truly a pit for the unscrupulous.
@TheMid-KnightRider3 місяці тому
@@mickeyandres2651 ... "Horror-wood" is a PIT of pure evil. However, not everyone involved in that "nasty network" is malevolent and devoid of a conscience, but, many are blackmailed into colluding and conspiring with the vile "illumine - naughties" satanic agenda.
@Dilley_G453 місяці тому
@@splinejones4489whoopi is a very vile person
@kathymcmc3 місяці тому
Hollywood is disgusting.
@user-eg2jr8dt1j3 місяці тому
Why don't any citizens grow some balls and do what needs to be done?
@PInk77W13 роки тому
Manson looked into Scientology and said Naw that’s nuts.
@juankenon3 роки тому
It's hilarious that his warden was happy that Manson had found something that was engaging him.
@donwayne13573 роки тому
So did Elvis, he said they were only after his money.
@anonanon57913 роки тому
That's funny shit.
@anthonyangel31093 роки тому
Brendan Cronin met plenty of people like him, fortunately they’re too lazy and uncharismatic enough to not commit similar atrocities
@jolllyroger13 роки тому
Manson scientology nexium and over the years are only some of the CIA mind control operations hunter s Thompson.... hollyweird is now a loaded weapon and propaganda tool against the people and the whole world
@robertkees6048Рік тому
It's hard to believe that Sharon Tate would be near 80 years old today, and her unborn child would be in their fifties. A entire lifetime snuffed out.
@annettearrow88247 місяців тому
A Satanic ritual that was a psyop. The ritual was not reality.
@HxThomison6 місяців тому
Oh hey but her "twin sister"
@robertkees60486 місяців тому
@@HxThomison That's called a fragment.
@RavenWolfDrum693 місяці тому
Sad sad 😢
@sylviaross57223 місяці тому
@robertkees6048 I know. I had just turned 10 in August 1969 right before it happened. It was front page news & the radio & TV reported it nonstop. It took them a while to figure out who did the murders, & when they found them, the coverage was unreal. I saw the TV movie "Helter Skelter", based on Bugliosi's book, which I read later. I remember somebody online commenting that Charles Manson killed the 60's. Pretty spot on.
@libertyjustice4847Рік тому
FBI and CIA involvement with Manson is nefarious
@greasy83943 місяці тому
You mean the fact that they created CIA and they put him under MKUltra
@buahburke99122 місяці тому
@nin_po...And getting WORSE. FBI dispatched by Biden's handlers to capture license plates of concerned parents at PTA meetings. For future harassment! The Minority Report was predictive programming.
@cindy7400Місяць тому
M k ultra was the Manson family, They made a lot of money off this case and still do.
@stregalilithМісяць тому
@@cindy7400 can you explain this further?
@cindy7400Місяць тому
@@stregalilith Manson has been used for yrs by them they basically brought him up as a child , Boys town special operation, a chaos creator! Look into yourself!
@bk25244 роки тому
Thumbs up for reminding the world Roman Polanski is a monster. Remember the list of celebrities who signed a petition for his exoneration
@jayzr89384 роки тому
Is there list? How can we find it?
@JaySports6444 роки тому
@@LoganDrew-go8cz Fuck. How can I ever watch one of Scorsese's movie again?
@tompetlach8484 роки тому
food for thought: the girls that committed the Tate murders were actually child sex abuse victims of Polanski and his friends. if the tape of Tate's rape is real, and if the sex abuse stories Manson describes from his days in orphanages/boarding schools are real, that would indicate a motive for the Manson family much more coherent than what is officially presented
@danishaffer60994 роки тому
Quentin Tarantino thinks Roman didn’t do anything wrong. He loves Roman. He went on the Howard K. Stern show and went into great detail about how the 14 year old girl and her mom are the ones to blame
@jjrbarnett4 роки тому
@@tompetlach848 . I had heard this before. Drug trading was involved. And some sort of sex crimes retaliation. The whole Helter Skelter thing was facade.
@jaredtomochak49464 роки тому
I still can't believe more people don't talk about Roman Pulaski being a monster I'm glad to see these two calling him what he is
@biskitz869132 роки тому
His name still gets a round of applause at Hollywood award ceremonies. Hollywood is a fucked up place really
@tomasvlcek44762 роки тому
Its Polanski. How is he a monster?
@biskitz869132 роки тому
@@tomasvlcek4476 hes wanted in the USA for the rape of an underage girl. Hes living in Poland and they wont extradite him *He's living in France, not Poland*
@robbybee702 роки тому
when you are the liberal elite, you get your sins covered
@robbybee702 роки тому
@@tomasvlcek4476 did you hear the part about him having his girl raped in the video we are all commenting on......seriously
@KimberlyLetsGo3 місяці тому
My son read Chaos and recommended it to me. I listened to it on audio during a trip and I was enthralled!!! If you haven't read this book, you have got to.
@LimpBizkotti29 днів тому
Next try: Weird Scenes From Inside The Canyon by Dave McGowan. Similar topics.
@JustinPogue2 дні тому
It's absolutely crazy how much CHAOS blows the original story to smithereens! I appreciated how O'Neill says in the book "I don't KNOW what the real story is, I just have evidence to prove that the OFFICIAL story is false!" instead of throwing out different theories, etc. That's good journalism right there. Also, as the other commenter states, the book about Laurel Canyon is also crazy good.
@benbirch2393Рік тому
Anyone who thinks that polanski and the ruling class / elite had nothing to do with all of this debauched ghoulishness, is quite mad.
@nbdingo61446 місяців тому
He’s a monster for sure, I choose to believe that the house was truly high profile. Manson is Frankensteins monster just like whitey burger and all other test subjects from MK Ultra. They’re lab rats got out and fucked up the world
@TheMid-KnightRider3 місяці тому
💯💯💯👍
@laurids20073 місяці тому
You really have to read the whole book. It is clear who ordered the slaughter. It was the government and the reasons are well explained in the book. For Polanski, it is also clear he had nothing to do with it.
@kellygrace32473 місяці тому
Manson was a CIA asset
@kellygrace32473 місяці тому
Manson was a CIA asset
@jswets50072 роки тому
When someone who has spent 20 years writing a book about a single event says "I hate to speculate", you know he means it.
@tommiddlefinger61882 роки тому
I was born on the night of the first Manson murders, at almost the same time they were occurring. True story.
@MrBlazingup4202 роки тому
@@tommiddlefinger6188 Tate's father was military Intelligence, he worked out of a building at the top of the hill where those murders took place, go back and look at the murder scene photos and see if they look real, can you say False Flag, nobody knew Tate had a little sister until she died
@stephenbradleyadams2 роки тому
@@MrBlazingup420 stoner logic. What difference does it make about the little sister ?
@stevescuba19782 роки тому
@@stephenbradleyadams I assume there was no sister, just a change of names?
@stephenbradleyadams2 роки тому
@@stevescuba1978 she has a sister who went to every parole hearing to make sure not of the killers were ever paroled. I’m not sure what your are implying though ?
@WIZandRoLLiN3 роки тому
When authors go on JRE it’s a constant battle to give a good answer and not spoil the book they just spent years writing
@snorfietsers40063 роки тому
I understand its tough for the author but like dude you're on one of the biggest podcasts ever, you aren't here to advertise your book. so annoying to constantly hear "i discuss this in the book..."
@kiwione122 роки тому
@@snorfietsers4006 No, thats EXACTLY why he was there. He's there to promote the new book he spent 20 years writing, he obviously doesn't want to spoil it on the biggest podcast on the planet
@snorfietsers40062 роки тому
@@kiwione12 lol I guarantee you Joe Rogan did not ask him to come on the show to promote his book, gtfoh
@kiwione122 роки тому
@@snorfietsers4006 lol I guarantee you Tom O'Neill did not come on the show to spoil and not promote his book, gtfoh
@snorfietsers40062 роки тому
@@kiwione12 I'm not saying he didn't lol??? I'm saying it's annoying that he did. Did you even read the comment you originally replied to? If you did you would realize you agree with me
@stregalilith3 місяці тому
I was in LA when the trial was going on and paying attention although I wasn't a lawyer yet. Three things stand out to me after reading Tom O'Neill's book: 1) Vince Bugliosi was a known liar, very ambitious, and would say anything to enhance his image; 2) in thirty years as a lawyer, much of it practicing in Los Angeles, I have rarely seen anything as meticulously documented as Tom O'Neill's book, "Chaos"; 2) I was a law student extern at the ACLU a few years later and the information Tom has on COINPRO is spot on. Further, Tom's father was a well regarded member of the legal profession and helped him document his findings in an honest, ethical and professional manner. To me, Tom O'Neill's reportage is credible.
@Durpydurp44883 місяці тому
COINTELPRO Counter Intelligence Program. Not being pedantic. The correct spelling and understanding of the term are important for others to be able to research who don’t know what it is.
@luv2travel20002 місяці тому
@@Durpydurp4488👍 Thanks
@stregalilithМісяць тому
@@Durpydurp4488 you’re right. I was in too much of a hurry late at night. Thx for the correction.
@Durpydurp4488Місяць тому
@@stregalilith it’s all good. I try to educate people about this one program all the time. Once you understand this you understand how trusting the government is never the right way.
@texasrose231524 дні тому
@@Durpydurp4488I knew what he meant. Not everyone feels the need to point out misspelled errors, etc.
@jonathansebo5800Рік тому
My friend Tom found Sharon Tate’s body. It was his first day on the PD. He quit and became a lawyer.
@paulvoorhies8821Рік тому
👌. My aunt’s neighbors 3rd cousin’s real estate agent originally sold the Cielo house to Rudi Altobelli. He was gay.
@CertifiedZoologist3 місяці тому
@@paulvoorhies8821I knew the guy that did Obama's laundry while he was in office. Said Michelle's underwear were all stretched out in the front. Similar to how a well endowed man's would be.
@bigworm27592 місяці тому
My brother’s grandmothers uncles boyfriends 9th cousin built the house
@myroselle69872 місяці тому
The housekeeper found the bodies…
@user-or5mk7hj1s2 місяці тому
I used to do their yard work on Cielo Dr in my past life 😮
@Chrisfeb682 роки тому
Amazes me how the same people who support the Me too movement would give Roman Polanski a standing ovation. These are the same people giving speeches at the Academy Awards lecturing us.
@prisonisinourminds80702 роки тому
They all are fake. I don’t like feminism bc I feel like it fights all the wrong things most of the time and produces more toxicity than good. I think it is fine though to appreciate Polanski for his work bc he was a great filmmaker despite being a monster but I do want to puke at all those hypocrites in Hollywood. They all just want to make money and save their own ass.
@lolawalsh91872 роки тому
I have same thoughts. Hollywood; Babylon
@erisdiscordia7439Рік тому
Me Too movement is the anti-jew movement, no councidence most of the real victims are jewish. That is, the people blamed. I am ANTI ME TOO and PRO ISREAL
@joykelly440Рік тому
It's a club. Winstien was a sacrificial pig.
@rileymilovichРік тому
Hypocrisy is a major pillar of their ideology or religion
@julzgulz19922 роки тому
My mother went to school with the LaBianca children. She can't even hear about the crimes it's so upsetting knowing her lovely classmates lost their parents this way. We often forget the victims of this crime and focus on the infamy and celebrity of the perpetrators. The son was just a normal, happy, popular high school student who lost his whole family and privacy. So tragic.
@letslaughallday95442 роки тому
I absolutely hate how the perpetrators are always the focus of these crimes. The victims seems to get lost in the process except they aren’t forgotten by the people who love them. I hate our society that loves talking crime.
@johnnycash13652 роки тому
Show her the crimescene photos
@julzgulz19922 роки тому
@@johnnycash1365 Show yourself out! Creep.
@fudgedogbannana2 роки тому
I went to John Marshall High in the Early 70's, we were creeped out just walking or driving past the house.
@youngjthakid2 роки тому
“The Murder’s also caused Actor Iian Quarrier, who stared with Sharon Tate in The Fearless Vampire Hunter’s; to go into a Severe Depression!” Iian was living in Montreal at the time, and Slowly slipped out of the Movie Industry altogether from what I’ve gathered!
@Tackytiger74Рік тому
I've never been able to reconcile just how Bugliosi could be such an ace prosecutor and brilliant author of Helter Skelter.....and at the same time be such a vociferous proponent of the Warren Commission's findings, the lone nut assassin and the magic bullet....Now I know....Great interview.
@JeffCrow1313Рік тому
O'Neill is a charlatan. He wants to throw shade on Bugliosi's reputation to please all of his conspiracy loon friends who make living promoting lies and speculation and never have any actual evidence. Bugliosi and (Gerald Posner) have conclusively shown there's only evidence vs OSWALD.
@tonysienzant67173 місяці тому
It's because the Warren Commission WAS CORRECT. That's WHY. All the conspiracy books about Oswald have been discredited. The Oliver Stone film completely discredited as a fabrication, using information that was debunked numerous times: very sloppy research. This author also DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE OF THE CIA'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE TATE MURDERS. Only speculation. Conspiracy Theories in search of PROOF.
@ShortArmOfGod3 місяці тому
You know the magic bullet was made up by Oliver stone right?
@Tackytiger743 місяці тому
Wrong, it was Arlen Specter@@ShortArmOfGod
@jasongrange43763 місяці тому
The “magic Bullet” is just conspiracy theory nonsense that has been thoroughly debunked. Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
@mykula7805 місяців тому
That's right Manson never committed a single murder in his life but yet his parole was denied the three women that actually cut the baby out of Sharon Tate was paroled. Now please tell me if we don't have a Judicial problem in America
@Kjspun10215 місяців тому
What are u even talking about
@Kjspun10215 місяців тому
1, I'm sure he did kill at some point...Sadie died in prison from brain cancer
@sherryaleshire91875 місяців тому
@KJSPUN1021 what do you mean ?? Did you not understand the comment ?? Maybe READ IT AGAIN
@zariballardМісяць тому
The baby wasn't cut out.
@user-df8zq5nx8lМісяць тому
I'm quite sure the baby was. And no one proved man son killed anyone. And a few got paroled. What's up with Bobby Beaulieu and tex watson
@iiscritical77952 роки тому
This is easily one of the best interviews Joe's ever done. Highly underrated in my opinion.
@ejayman2 роки тому
Really good, but I couldn't listen to this guy without hearing Donald Sutherland
@mrbeans24252 роки тому
There's at least one of these on every video lol
@KeepaBoy62 роки тому
I say the same…only because not alot of this information is being Maintreamed.
@tommiddlefinger61882 роки тому
I was born at almost the same time these murders were talking place (the first ones).
@margaretkinnaman85852 роки тому
I agree. I was 18 at the time this happened and I was fascinated, I felt we only got a fraction of the facts. Guess I was right.
@misterpurple4089Рік тому
The number of Hollywood types who simply ignore the evil of Polanski is astounding. No excuse for what The Family did to Sharon Tate and the other victims, what they had to endure was despicable.
@KLRN-qc7jpРік тому
What do you mean by "evil of Polanski"?
@misterpurple4089Рік тому
@@KLRN-qc7jp As well as the mention in the clip that he forced Sharon Tate to have sex with other men while he taped it Polanski is a peadophile and cannot re-enter the USA as there is an open warrant for him having sex with a 13 year old in Jack Nicholson's Malibu mansion after he drugged her. Just look up the list of Hollywood types who signed the petition to allow him to return the States.
@KLRN-qc7jpРік тому
@@misterpurple4089 First of all there is no evidence of Polanski forcing Tate to do anything. Some guy tells to the other guy that he heard from a completelly different guy that there is a video tape that supposedly confirms that. That's evidence to you? You Hamburgers are crazy. All you have to do is point a finger at a man and he is finished. No evidence needed. Polanski is no pedo. He was drunk and high as crap and the mother of the girl dressed her up and sent to Polanski's house. She wanted this to happen. The girl herself, as an adult woman even said that she forgave him and asked everybody to leave him alone. There were no further accounts of him ever having these kind of sexual relations in the future. Polanski might be perverse. But evil? Monster? Only in a nation where misandry is as natural as breathing could someone come up with such stupid idea. Polanski went through living hell in his life. He really loved Sharon Tate. Her death broke him and he is carrying that scar in his heart until today. Spitting on this man's suffering like that is just disgusting and inhuman.
@misterpurple4089Рік тому
@@KLRN-qc7jp Calling bullshit on that, she was 13 and if he couldn't control himself because he was drunk then he is even more of a monster. If she forgave him as you suggest then I am at a loss as to why she sued him. Obvious you didn't watch the full interview or perhaps you believe he is a Saint just like Harvey Weinstein did. Funny how a serial rapist signs the petition for a child molester to be allowed back into the country.
@KLRN-qc7jpРік тому
@@MagnumTriumph Well in that case I guess that you shoud stay away from kids and get into somekind of therapy.
@katja63323 місяці тому
Manson is the definition of crazy and Polanski is, to put it politely not a nice person, neither why Hollywood give those abusive men (Polanski, Woody Allen, Kinski, Weinstein etc) the credits for being "geniuses" is beyond me.
@kayrutledge19703 місяці тому
I agree.
@kathymcmc3 місяці тому
Because they are all perverts.
@Dilley_G453 місяці тому
Not the only case of the French neither extraditing NOR prosecuting a ray pist
@napoleonfeanor3 місяці тому
He probably knew important people there
@Tyler_W3 місяці тому
I think there's room for nuance. Calling bad people scumbags and giving credit for good work are not mutually exclusive. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with giving credit to the quality of someone's work even though they're bad people, but ignoring the bad things people do and praising them as good guys because they've been involved in good art are steps too far imo. I have no issue with anyone saying they love any of Polanski's movies (for example, Chinatown is superb) or simply pointing out the objective fact that Harvey Weinstein helped produce a lot of great and deservedly beloved movies so long as they also acknowledge that both men are guilty of doing some terrible things. What's absolutely disgusting and objectionable is the extent to which people in the industry have tried to ignore Weinstein's abuse of power or how some have tridd to get Polanski off his charges so he can come back to America. THAT, at the very least, is culpability with evil, not simply enjoying any of the good things they've worked on.
@socalcdeРік тому
There's a lot of info that people never heard before in that book, but one thing that surprised me is that there was no mention of Bugliosi's assistant who was murdered during the trial. He was found beheaded I think in the Sespe Creek area of Ojai. I will never forget that because I was hiking in that area the weekend that it happened.
@paulvoorhies8821Рік тому
He was not beheaded. He was crushed in an avalanche in a crevasse. Some say it was homicide. It was ruled and certainly looked like an accident.
@paulvoorhies8821Рік тому
It wasn’t Bugliosi’s assistant; it was Leslie Van Houten’s defense attorney, Ronald Hughes.
@paulvoorhies8821Рік тому
@@jaydemartin7295👍😜
@damotheman41967 місяців тому
@@jaydemartin7295Agreed.
@christineobrien77076 місяців тому
I remember a mention of a certain lawyer found dead in a swimming pool. Not sure if it's the same guy you're talking about .So much truth was hidden from this sad, grizzly event And then @ a week later, Woodstock occurs in NY.Peace on the Eastcoast, but not the west coast.
@gravypatron4 роки тому
I'm beginning to think Earth is a conspiracy.
@conceptualmessiah014 роки тому
It's flat around the corners.
@mentalcompassno14 роки тому
it is
@tranzco11734 роки тому
Yeah dude, I'm turning all this stuff off for awhile, inserting head into sand. I will never have enough information to know what F is going on in this world.
@scottydmac4 роки тому
may I join you on your quest?
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi4 роки тому
@@CelticAngloPress2nd enough with your Jewish conspiracies dude. That's Nazi propaganda. I'm not saying there aren't bad Jews in power, of course there are and they are disproportionately represented but don't go down that slippery slope man... You took the black pill.
@jean-lucpicard29144 роки тому
Thank god Brad Pitt was there with his dog.
@ahuxley1234 роки тому
Good thing you have that can dog food ready. He had a real good follow-through too.
@seanorourke5344 роки тому
That was great, almost forgot I was watching a Tarantino movie up to that point.
@zcosmos94 роки тому
Brandy is her name
@samjohnson32194 роки тому
high on acid
@71fluffdaddy4 роки тому
Now that was funny.
@ladadog3977Місяць тому
Vincent Bugliosi came to Indiana University in 1976, and gave a presentation called Helter Skelter. He gave a talk after screening the film and it was very interesting. Most of us knew very little about the case, and we gave him a standing ovation at the end.
@Glo7xРік тому
Doris Day wrote about Manson in her book. Doris's son Terry Melcher was a music producer who was the previous owner of the Tate house. Doris believed that her son was the actual target that night. Doris stated that Terry refused to give Manson a recording contract and that's why the Tate house was targeted. Doris believed that Manson thought that her son still lived in that house. The book is called "Doris Day : her own story"
@monstermcboo7282Рік тому
Except Charlie knew Terry had moved.
@subg8858Рік тому
Also, there is testimony recorded by police from another producer who had recorded Manson who claimed he couldn’t do anything with the tapes because Manson refused to sign anything. He said the only thin Manson was interested in was getting the tapes themselves. Manson was selling songs under the table to groups like the Beach Boys. The motive of being rejected by music industry is non sense. Nothing about Manson suggests he would even be willing to sign a contract with a corporation
@paulvoorhies8821Рік тому
@@monstermcboo7282 Yup!
@paulvoorhies8821Рік тому
@@subg8858. Gimme a break!
@Rosemary-up1ql7 місяців тому
This account was the one that was the real deal, this new one is I guess is more entertaining than that acciunt,but the original had enough gore in it for most we have enough violence in this world without digging up bones to fabricate more to a already tragic story.
@sjdprime65222 роки тому
This guy is easily one of the most interesting historians if you could even call him that to watch. Makes news from when my father was born sound like it happened yesterday. Great job.
@campbellpaul2 роки тому
nah, not even close
@astridjaye62242 роки тому
Tangent for sure but you have a point
@tommiddlefinger61882 роки тому
THESE MURDERS HAPPENED THE NIGHT I WAS BORN. I WAS BEING BORN ALMOST AT THE SAME TIME THE MURDERS WERE HAPPENING ABOUT 100 MILES AWAY.
@rexcannel81952 роки тому
@@campbellpaul Stay out of it Paul.
@Mike-os8lv2 роки тому
I don’t know that’s really the reason he’s good. I think he’s good because he has a great research instinct and questions narratives rather than accepting everything without verification.
@LoverOfManyArts2 роки тому
This is why one should remain skeptical in cases like this, anything can potentially be covered up, fabricated, distorted. Don't trust "official" narratives at face value, think for yourself and research for yourself.
@23_Knows_ALL2 роки тому
Would you apply that to the OJ Simpson trial? There was a lot of talk that it was really a drug killing, not OJ. Then, after the "not guilty" OJ verdict, Bugliosi made a 7+ hour video after the verdict trying to convince everyone that OJ was the killer, even though there was other evidence that suggested otherwise. I never understood why Bugliosi tried so hard to convince people that OJ did it. Listening to Tim O'Neill makes me question Bugliosi even more. Brian Heiss on UKposts did a thorough analysis proving that OJ didn't do it. You can check out his channel. OJ's defense team said they had enough witnesses and evidence to prove that it was a drug killing, not OJ, but the judge, for some unexplained reason, didn't want to allow it in the courtroom. I, like many, thought that was kind of odd. Your thoughts?
@drewlavay2 роки тому
@@23_Knows_ALL the OJ situation was the biggest media lie ever.
@drewlavay2 роки тому
@@23_Knows_ALL the time-line alone proves it doesn't take a thorough examination to figure out OJ didn't do it. All that other shit Brian Heiss covered on his channel is just icing on the cake. I think there's a lot more to that story than we'll ever know. Drug killing? Probably...Lee Bailey said on a podcast shortly before his death that he had got word that the men who were responsible were subsequently murdered as well, because Nicole & Ron weren't the real targets. But saying that kind of stuff in the mainstream makes you look like a crazy person.
@drewlavay2 роки тому
@@23_Knows_ALL I've tried to figure out why the media would go so far to try and make a clearly innocent man look guilty. The only thing I can come up with is money. "OJ is Guilty" has been a billion dollar industry. Sadly, I think it's really that simple..
@23_Knows_ALL2 роки тому
@@drewlavay Yes, I agree, the media lied and continues to lie to people for money for sure. The ratings are always super high whenever anything about OJ Simpson gets air time. I think if people looked into the cops in the trial a little further, then investigated the whole department further, they'd discover a whole lot of police misconduct that might set a lot of people in prison free. This might have then made the public or what would be considered too many citizens completely distrust the whole justice system (the irony in that), and politicians or whoever had the power to make those decisions probably didn't think that all would end well. I was thinking some police tampering maybe was taking place in Bugliosi's famous Manson case, with even Bugliosi taking part of it since there are other irregularities in the Manson case too. Maybe the cops tampered and manufactured with evidence in the Manson trial at Bugliosi's request. If that's true, then it would make sense for Buglisosi to use all his might to debunk the police tampering narrative in the Simpson trial so that no one comes dangerously close to finding out him and other cops (from the same LAPD that investigated the OJ trial) tampered with evidence and possibly lied in court in order to win the Manson trial that made Bugliosi famous. Bugliosi wouldn't want that to blow up in his face and lose his "righteous" fame or his "good" name that he's spent so many years crafting. It is possible.
@smuschlitz7 місяців тому
This is the first time I've ever heard anything about Roman being abusive to Sharon. Although, I've always wondered if Roman could've possibly orchestrated the whole thing. After listening to this guy, it doesn't seem so crazy. If Roman truly was a monster, then he could have easily paid Terry to hire someone to get rid of Sharon. So Terry seeks out Manson, who may have been the one lunatic he knew who could pull this off. If the payment was setup as half upfront, and rest paid after the deed was done, it would've given Terry a very legitimate reason to visit Manson at the ranch after the murders. I've always been unusually attached to this case, and after watching Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, all I could think of was why anyone that wealthy would leave their pregnant spouse alone, without any security measures in place. It makes more sense than attacking just a random house, for some obscure vendetta against the previous tenants.
@christineobrien77076 місяців тому
Now you just gave me something to think about! I never looked at this topic in this light Thanks 😎👍
@francescaderimini29315 місяців тому
Look up Roman Polanski abortion Tate on google. I read the book by Ed Sanders and according Sharon’s friends, Polanski wanted to fly Tate down to Brazil to have a partial birth abortion by a witch Doctor! Interesting don’t you think?
@chickenlover6574 місяці тому
Nah.
@jasongrange43763 місяці тому
Wait, so is that a the thesis of the book? Or presented as a possibility?
@mckou15473 місяці тому
I have heard that Polanski is a satanist. If that is true, sacrificing his child through murder would, in his mind, earn him great favor from satan.
@billreid8183 місяці тому
I spoke to Tom Briefly a couple of years ago after reading his book. I believe I ran across a house near Vacaville where some Family members were squatting in 1977... I just wanted to relate the story to him. He was kind to me and receptive and didn't make me feel like an idiot like a few people have over the years when I told them about my experience ( It's a long story ) I highly recommend his book. It makes more sense to me than anything else I have read... These murderers have haunted me since 1969 when I was 11 years old....
@vkngwmn66363 місяці тому
Read Strange Tales of Laurel Canyon
@Reclining_Spuds3 місяці тому
Manson was in Vacaville State Prison at that time. I was living in nearby Fairfield.
@billreid8183 місяці тому
@Reclining_Spuds The house was out in the middle of nowhere, off of Pleasant Valley Road, about hallway to Lake Berryessa... It was abandoned and I came on it by chance. My ex wife, my cousin's wife and I were out riding one night and I caught a glimpse of something on a gate in front of the property... I thought it was a little kid... It was a dog. A big Doberman. Someone had killed it, cut it open and hung it on the gate... Long story... I took my wife and cousin home, found a cop and rode with him back out there. He didn't want to go over the fence... I said, "Don't you think you should check out that house?" He said, "Are you gonna come with me?" We went up the driveway, about 50 yards and we hear something coming right at us... ( It's pitch black and all he has is his flashlight ) He pulled his weapon and a fucking horse goes running past us... keeps going. SOMEONE had spooked it and ran it towards us... We get to the house, it's open. Lots of fast food trash, old crap, magzines, blankets. A big Pentagram on the floor in the main room. A glass in the middle, surrounded by candles... they were out, but wax was soft... I said, "Man, let's get the hell outta here..." He was a young cop, probably about 25, 30. I was 18... We were both pretty scared... He dropped me off at my house and said he would write a report about the dog and see if a detective would investigate in daylight.... never heard from him again. Years later, I'm researching a term paper on the Manson family and I learned about their water sharing ritual. I had no idea Manson was in Vacaville in 1977. My wife and I lived off Alamo drive, not far from the prison. I have always believed that some of the Family were squatting in that house... whoever killed that dog was a very sick, evil person. Whoever was squatting in that house KNEW it was there. The gate was locked and the house was only about 100 yards away...
@Reclining_Spuds3 місяці тому
@billreid818 that is really creepy. Nothing surprising coming from that gang. I worked at the Nut Tree Restaurant as a dishwasher from January to April in 1977. I would get off at midnight and ride my motorcycle right past the prison. That was creepy enough for me.
@billreid8183 місяці тому
@Reclining_Spuds My ex worked there at the ice cream shop. I worked at the mobile home factory on El Mira... we had just moved to California... we had a 3 bedroom apt for $175... I had a new car, Pinto Stallion... the note was $78... She made minimum but I was making $5.50 an hour... we thought were living large! Lol! It was a different world, and Fairfield/Vacaville was a sleepy little bedroom community back then. I miss those days... the marriage didn't make it, but we're the parents of a wonderful son and we're still friends.
@owlowl18842 роки тому
I read Tom O'Neill's book after I first saw this interview and recommend it. Very readable and informative. Very well documented. This man dedicated his life to exposing corruptions behind the scene.
@bonezilla81912 роки тому
What’s the name of Tom O’Neils book?
@ragingreviews51862 роки тому
Can we get a little insight to it in your own words?
@morganbanefort1812 роки тому
@@bonezilla8191 chaos the secret history of the 60s
@katiebug_3372 роки тому
Thank you for your recommendation for the book! This will definitely going to be the next book I read.
@lddcavalry2 роки тому
Book is fantasy
@mikecoxlong46814 роки тому
Who else goes straight to the comments to see if the vid is worth watching? Lol
@BetrayerSlayerMusic4 роки тому
Here. Beatin it to the Krenwinkle Finkle Fiddler Satan Snatch. Feel meh? Wassup..?
@weirdead8294 роки тому
Always
@crocop68733 роки тому
Who else here makes comments just for the sake of having likes? Sellout
@winendesertrose3 роки тому
I always do.
@shenvega66883 роки тому
Yup
@odeleon2410 місяців тому
What a great book. Hard to put down. Very engrossing. Well written. So many interesting characters.
@corrineagnello45844 місяці тому
Excellent commentary. I read his book and Bugliosi’s, both are very good books.
@utbllc40574 роки тому
Manson knew that Terry Melcher no longer lived at that house. Several months prior to the murders Manson visited that house thinking Terry Melcher still lived there and Sharon Tate was there. That is a common misconception that Manson didn't know who lived at that house
@sb-tb1oh3 роки тому
Manson didn't care who lived there
@1953childstar3 роки тому
Manson "creepy crawled" the "Doris Day" Malibu home Melcher was staying at and took a set of binoculars, then called Melcher and asked if he was "missing something"...
@rmg3red172 роки тому
While it’s true that Manson did stop at the house while Sharon Tate was there, I don’t believe he had a clue who she was.
@josephdockemeyer67822 роки тому
Manson selected the Tate house because he knew the floorplan. Period. He was trying to deflect the premeditation charge by stating it was a random house.
@littleladyinlalaland17492 роки тому
well, we don't know for sure what Manson thought. He might've thought they were lying to him and that the people there were Terry's guests. Either way, he wanted to kill rich, Hollywood types. But he did have it in for Terry, so maybe he thought the renters were friends of Terry's. Charlie and his followers aren't exactly consistent or honest about their motives. Charlie never fesses up to being a pissed off, failed artist who just wanted to get back at someone who basically knew he had no musical talent.
@dirtyguava82094 роки тому
Author be like "How do I not spoil my book"
@chrisrodriguez59344 роки тому
Did he imply that the cia committed these murders?
@androlibre96614 роки тому
if he does....nobody will buy it
@stillnotchill25604 роки тому
Don't shame someone for securing the bag.
@KMcNally1174 роки тому
@@chrisrodriguez5934 he did. There's a smaller JRE clip mentioning the CIA.
@inesgoncalves2324 роки тому
@@chrisrodriguez5934 No, he didn't. I read the book when it came out. It was a passion project after Premiere (the magazine) shut down. It was supposed to be an article for the 30th anniversary of the murders. But he kept digging and digging, and finding more and more shit. Like, for instance, the fact that Manson was never put away for any of the crimes he committed after he was released in 1967, because his parole officer protected him to no end. That parole officer was involved in studies, funded by institutes that were funded by the CIA, about the how LSD could make people more violent (there were also studies, by the same institutes, posing as free-clinics in San Francisco, about how cannabis could make people more docile - I'm sorry if I'm getting any of these statements wrong, but I've read the book almost a year ago). There are a lot of loose threads in the book, exactly because O'Neill didn't want the book to turn into a conspiracy theory, but it's fascinating nonetheless. Especially the fact that he mentions the murder Beausoleil committed due to a drug deal gone wrong, how Susan Atkins tried to cover for him, trying to redirect that murder to the Black Panthers, writing "pigs" on the wall, way before the Tate-LaBianca murders, etc. I recommend watching "Charles Manson: The Final Words".
@susangavaghan8 місяців тому
The claim that Polanski had forced Sharon to have sex with other men and filmed it came as quite a shock. Although what he did to the 14 year old girl was bad. What I have noticed about him is that all his movies tend to be very dark and involve abuse, often of women. Sharon should have stuck with Jay Sebring, whom she left for Polanski. Jay died while trying to protect her. I believe Manson was just an ex con who had learned mind control techniques while in prison and knew how to say what people wanted to hear. His followers were vulnerable people at a time when young people were looking for gurus and answers. Manson just used and exploited them - although it doesn't excuse what they did. The whole Manson thing never really made any sense to me - the hippy movement was about peace, love and opposition to materialism and the Vietnam war. Murdering innocent people because they were famous and wealthy just didn't add up nor was in keeping with the hippy ethos.
@skinovtheperineum12084 місяці тому
Have you seen the little piggies crawling in the dirt? And for all the little piggies life is getting worse. - Beatles; 'Piggies'
@chasethecat38394 місяці тому
But the whole Helter Skelter ordeal/story killed the hippy movement. If the c I a wanted to stop the whole peace live, anti war movement, what better way to do it
@poindextertunes3 місяці тому
yeah the cia definitely infiltrated the counter culture movement. LSD was a big part of the MKULTRA trials as well. They said they discontinued that program but I highly doubt it. Manchurian candidates are a very real thing and scary af
@tonysienzant67173 місяці тому
You hinted at it: "opposition to materialism." It's small step from vilifying 'materialism' & then targeting ACTUAL PEOPLE GUILTY OF IT. The same can be said for villainizing terms like 'white privilege' & 'white tears' & even 'white phrases' & how they are a small step at vilifying 'WHITENESS' to then targeting ACTUAL WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSEDLY ALL GUILTY OF IT.
@AnAntidisestablishmentarianist3 місяці тому
The hippy movement was actually about lazy self-centered hedonism. They invented the peace, love, and anti-materialism narrative as cover and rationalization for their true motives. Hedonists care about no one but themselves and tend to fill up with hatred toward those who have more than them. And of course they're not above lying to present themselves in the best possible light.
@user-kp8sx1nh1c8 місяців тому
When I read the book "Helter Skelter," I learned that Charlie Manson had been to the Tate house before. He was rejected in the "rock" world. They all should have gotten the death penalty for what they did.
@Lily-wp8olМісяць тому
They DID get the death penalty! California got rid of the death penalty later.
@VenomHernandez4 роки тому
*_"No Good Gaw'Damn Hippies"_* - Leonardo DiCaprio
@reinforcedpenisstem4 роки тому
Tarantino wrote that, not some empty vessel actor.
@rainblaze.4 роки тому
He got that right ✌🍄🌻🌾🏵🌸🌹
@deevahgirl4 роки тому
Cartman
@HUNNYPAINTS4 роки тому
@@reinforcedpenisstem fuck off you sound super goofy.
@HUNNYPAINTS4 роки тому
@fastguitar BIG DADDY TARANTINO LIKES FEET GET OVER IT
@1958RBS2 роки тому
What a fascinating interview and Joe Rogan is genuinely interested and engaged. As an English person, I am baffled as to why Joe has been under such recent pressure and attacks as he is the perfect interviewer.
@JorshWarshington12 роки тому
They're trying to destroy him because he makes them all look like idiots. Just by having genuine and respectful conversations with regular people.
Because Joe doesn’t support the state sponsored narratives
@maureentrant55882 роки тому
The LEFT didn’t like that Joe was discussing alternative methods to curing COVID and had some Dr on his show disputing COVID propaganda. So they tried to “Cancel”Joe, some old musicians cancelled their music on Spotify who sponsored him.Then some obscure blak “singer” found evidence of Joe using the dreaded “N” word 😱 12 years ago!!!! But Joe prevails!!👍🏻👏🏻✊🏻
@freedomfreedom95232 роки тому
People are scared of the truth cause they are weak
@danielabernal4961Місяць тому
The true contents of that tape broke my heart. Poor Sharon.
@jeffreyfernandez35407 місяців тому
You gotta get the book. Chaos on audible is the way to go. Such a great listen
@oliviabarrow91053 роки тому
After dealing personally with psychopaths and sociopaths.. I realized the less you ask “why” the better. There is never an answer and they aren’t worth the time thinking about because they are not thinking about anybody but themselves. Period
@davem71733 роки тому
People are only labeled "psychopaths" and "sociopaths" in dumb internet comment sections. The closest real world diagnosis is anti social personality disorder.
@jesseberdowski31483 роки тому
@@davem7173 let me guess you completed 1 semester of psychology at community college and read 2 books by Jordan Peterson?
@nathanbrooks25813 роки тому
@@davem7173 I don't know where you got your information but its completely wrong. You have no idea what your talking about. And have no business speaking on this subject matter. Please remain silent until you can back up your absurd claims. Stop spreading misinformation.
@nicholassmith4793 роки тому
@@nathanbrooks2581 Dam! That’s cold!
@davem71733 роки тому
@@jesseberdowski3148 Nah I work in the mental health field dumb fuck. Show me where in the DSM they have either "Sociopath" or "Psychopath" as an accepted mental health diagnosis?
@Gmacc1874 роки тому
"I'm guilty of thinking I had rights in a courtroom" - Manson
@TywinLannister6663 роки тому
When you are directly responsible for homicides, you do in fact, still have rights, until you are proven to be guilty, which he most certainly was.
@epsteinandsaviledaycarepla33203 роки тому
@@TywinLannister666 but.. was... He... Sexual?
@brettg82au3 роки тому
@@epsteinandsaviledaycarepla3320 what???
@Charliezard73 роки тому
@@TywinLannister666 you can't prove he was guilty. Not even the court gave evidence. Well yes, but invented it. Helter skelter wasn't ever a thing (just the name of a night club). They wouldn't even let Manson bring any witness. Totally rigged
@PInk77W13 роки тому
Carlos M were the dead bodies rigged ?
@c.rackrock137329 днів тому
I bought Tom's book because of this interview. 100/100 recommend.
@georgeadams82309 місяців тому
Good interview and solid reporting. It seems like the last 50 plus years millions of dollars have been made off these poor people. This guy is legit but it seems like alot of people are trying to cash in on this tragedy, these were real people. Steve Parent was just 18, Jay Sebring didnt think of himself and tried to defend Sharon which Tex killed him, then you have Sharon pleading for her babies life and calling out to her mother. Yeah, these were real people who's stories were turned into mythology.
@Rosemary-up1ql7 місяців тому
Let the victims RIP
@davidmclachlan65926 місяців тому
....maybe people are just searching for the truth.
@josephgodfrey79533 місяці тому
Sharon didn't call for her mother. It was Abigail Folger that cried out for her mother.
@JamesWSmith-sj2zg4 роки тому
I cooked, stirred and ate an entire box of Kraft macaroni and cheese while watching this, and still nothing registered.
@mr.christopher793 роки тому
shells and cheese will set you free
@AColonDashSix3 роки тому
TheLance3185 processed cheese is be of the worst inventions man-kind had come up with. Tear-gas has a better approval rating
@JamesWSmith-sj2zg3 роки тому
AColonDashSix Little much there bro. Little much.
@janesmith12843 роки тому
Oh thanks I thought something is wrong with me that I had no idea what he just said
@EYE_GOTCHA3 роки тому
I grew up eating that and loved it, never knew it was so full of bad stuff. Can’t bring myself to eat it any more. 😞
@sandranatali12602 роки тому
At the time of Manson Family, my family lived around 5 miles from the Spawn ranch. We. would see the family in their bus around the neighborhood, they would go to the supermarkets in the area, go through the trash bins for food. My friends and I would wonder about them but never tried to search them out. We decided they were trouble, so perhaps we had some fear. After they were arrested, we knew that we did right thing, by not allowing our curiosity get the best of us.
@velveetaslingshotРік тому
Spahn
@eeclarkutubeРік тому
Nothing wrong with getting food from the trash if it is still edible.
@michaelmanz4618Рік тому
That's crazy. Glad you didn't let curious.
@sheilalarson8964Рік тому
Same. The teachers at Chatsworth High warned the students not to go horseback riding up at Spahn. Word had gotten out there was trouble brewing up there at the ranch.
@user-pq6mr6op3pРік тому
Bullshit
@brandonJThornton6 місяців тому
Tom O Neil got me addicted to this story with his amazing book Chaos! It really is fascinating!
@Hollie27grl5 місяців тому
Oh yeah! Very true. Someone mentions that book Chaos. And I love to b open minded. So It’s on my audible. Can’t wait to read it! 😊
@brentsmock10443 місяці тому
Steve McQueen had been invited to the party that night, but never went. Lucky for him.
@Sambone702Місяць тому
You mean lucky for "Tex Watson'
@brentsmock1044Місяць тому
@@Sambone702 Well said!👍
@cloud_monkey4224 роки тому
Since when has any official narrative ever been believable
@brandonboulton27763 роки тому
Not since Lincoln's death.
@ATECRIO3 роки тому
@@brandonboulton2776 is that why any critique of Lincoln is met with frustration?
@jebidiahnewkedkracker10252 роки тому
@@ATECRIO I think he might be saying/suggesting that even the "official narrative" surrounding LINCOLN'S death in 1865 is not all its cracked up to be--there have even been questions raised regarding Booth's involvement, and Secretary of State Stanton. But since THAT event has crossed the threshold of what could be considered "ancient" history, even a paranoid "tin-foil-hat-wearer" such as myself will look at that with detached amusement.
@jeremyparr94482 роки тому
Sharon Tate had been my grandmothers best friend from grade school until she was murdered. My grandmother was prom queen in Vicenza, Italy and Tate was one of the runner-ups. I've seen pictures of Tate when they were kids. Their parents were military.
@raywilliams36212 роки тому
You must had a hot grandma!! A GILF!!!
@everythingisaworkinprogres57292 роки тому
I didn’t think Italy had anything like school dances, let alone prom.
@Blondiepi2 роки тому
Wow Debbie was my best friend in Italy abs Sharon was like a big sister to me. Spent a lot of time at her house. We were in Verona at that time
@terryannmaes55382 роки тому
@@everythingisaworkinprogres5729 they went to an American school in Italy. They were children of Military
@everythingisaworkinprogres57292 роки тому
@@terryannmaes5538 oh that makes sense now.
@ShanaAlversonFitness3 місяці тому
This interview is 🤯. Great job Tom O’Neill 👏
@bradleyroberts60507 місяців тому
It’s crazy because since 2016 I complete stopped trusting main stream narratives. Before I saw this I had always looked at how they do stuff now and if they wanted to get rid of the hippy move my then that was the perfect way to do it.
@tiffanyl48297 місяців тому
Yep!
@bradleyroberts60507 місяців тому
@@tiffanyl4829 I take it you too?
@x_flies5 місяців тому
@@bradleyroberts6050Thats exactly what I was thinking. It’s so crazy how before when I was a kid, whatever I saw on MSM, I thought it was the 100% truth and that I am the good guy for siding with them. Like you said since 2016, that completely changed for me and its so strange when you look back at history and realize what else was fabricated bullshit. The Manson murders definitely one of those.
@donaldsmith78243 місяці тому
Exactly.
@kamilmalinowski12674 роки тому
RIP Sharon Tate, her baby and other victims.
@nadiamccall43113 роки тому
What other victims? People only care about the famous one, it seems.
@maryallison05093 роки тому
Amen!!! She was a beautiful kind lady. I don’t remember ever reading bad things about her. She was just a young woman excited about being a momma. May they be flying with the angels 👼
@maryallison05093 роки тому
nadia mccall Your right. But Sharon and the baby were the youngest victims. So I guess that is why people feel so strong about them. She was in her early twenties. So people feel like Sharon could be any of our kids, nieces or friends or cousin.
@JamesWSmith-sj2zg3 роки тому
Mary Allison. NO, you're wrong. nadia mccall. Yes, you're correct. Just like Kobe Bryant's death, the famous only count. The rest are considered "other victims"
@JamesWSmith-sj2zg3 роки тому
The "other" victims: Steven Parent, 18: Visiting the resident of a guest house on the Cielo Drive estate, he was the first victim of the murderers. Abigail Folger, 25: The heir to the Folgers coffee fortune, she was romantically involved with Frykowski and was an investor in Sebring’s salons. *A Hollywood actress, 26 (not in her early 20's)* Voytek Frykowski, 32: A friend of Polanski’s, he came from a wealthy Polish family and was staying with Polanski and Tate. Gary Hinman, 34: The musician was stabbed to death in his Old Topanga Canyon Road home in July 1969. The phrase “POLITICAL PIGGY” was scrawled in blood on his wall. Manson follower Bobby Beausoleil was arrested while driving Hinman’s Volkswagen bus and was later convicted of the crime. Donald “Shorty” Shea, 35: A horse wrangler at the Spahn Movie Ranch near Chatsworth, he was killed in August 1969, after the Tate-LaBianca murders. It is believed that Manson’s followers killed him because they feared he was a police informant. His body was found eight years later.I Jay Sebring, 35: A Hollywood hairdresser whose clients included Warren Beatty, he was a former boyfriend of Tate’s. Rosemary LaBianca, 38 Leno LaBianca, 44: Husband and wife, owners of a chain of Los Angeles grocery stores, their Los Feliz house was targeted by Charles Manson, who tied them up but left the killing to others. I put these in order by their age: youngest to oldest, since Mary Allison believes that's what determined Tate's death recognition, not being a Hollywood actress.
@MasseurDavis3 роки тому
I wish the ending to Once Upon A Time in Hollywood was true. Takes a sick, evil demonic soul to kill a pregnant woman.
@petmomful22603 роки тому
I went to see it, loved it, and said to the guy next to me, "That is what SHOULD have happened."
@vl89623 роки тому
Roman Polanski
@MasseurDavis3 роки тому
@@petmomful2260 One of the criminals felt as if she should of been freed, regretting what she did in her youth!
@petmomful22603 роки тому
@@MasseurDavis Yes, all of them feel that way, the ones that are still alive.
@MasseurDavis3 роки тому
@@petmomful2260 2, they should get the death penalty, but California is so liberal.
@ducklife420Рік тому
I met this guy years ago when he was first researching this book but never thought it would come out
@connierenna-xf9um13 днів тому
I knew it!!! I’ve sensed all of these years that there was something not kosher about what we were being told. I was a teenager when the murders occurred, and I read Helter Skelter in 1977.
@lorihoop3831Рік тому
I'm reading this man's book now that's called Chaos, and besides cross referencing to prove the author's claims/points and watching interviews it's one that's very hard to put down. Actually loading myself up with caffeine now so I can read late into the night, it's that interesting. Mind blown, and this book/interview and many many others I've perused through the years only reinforces the understanding of just how disgusting Hollywood and the music business is and how corrupt our government is. 😥
@Ridethebomb777Рік тому
McGowans book throws good insight on this whole scene .... worth a read.
@jazminej97 місяців тому
Bingo
@danilegan55426 місяців тому
Yup
@Raittway3 місяці тому
I was 13 in 1970. The corruption and openly evil music industry has gone off the rails. Everything going on now seems insane to me. Food prices have doubled! Maybe it's my age but the pronouns now! The uber wealthy run this Country and don't get me started on child sniffing Biden. It breaks my heart. I worry for my grandkids.
@reemclaughlin42603 місяці тому
Hollywood is evil.
@rageagainstmyhairline55744 роки тому
Like Michael Cain says in 'The Dark Knight', "some men just want to watch the world burn". Some men want to see how much they can make someone do. Manson was not insane, just deeply narcissistic, cruel, and curious. A bad combination.
@atomictraveller3 роки тому
its great how you can get truth just from watching two masons talk
@wynterwhite42553 роки тому
𓀬𓆙♕
@razkable3 роки тому
manson knew polanski and he hated him..that why he got him killed for denying him something...the other stuff is just nonsense
@luvlgs13 роки тому
sounds like antifa
@FuckPedophileBiden3 роки тому
@@razkable Polansky was not killed.
@pipstrem54012 місяці тому
I read this book and it‘s fantastic - i really admire your work, sir! People, please buy it
@princedaemontargaryen4971Рік тому
I love how Joe lets him speak and doesn’t cut him off! Good podcast! I know I’m late but I always rewatch and I was like I leave a comment.
@oceanhedonist2652 роки тому
I'll never forget sitting in my parent's house as a kid with some friends playing Monopoly. There was an interuption in the TV broadcast, and a newscaster came on to report that several people had been discovered slain in Los Angeles. It's something I'll always remember.
@justinmartin46622 роки тому
Sure, like you had nothing to do with it. Something about you feels fishy… I’m on to you!
@oceanhedonist2652 роки тому
@@justinmartin4662 Yeah, I was 11 years old, living on the east coast, lol! 🤦♂️
@michaelneal27292 роки тому
@@oceanhedonist265 was this the charles mansion situation? im trying to lean more about it
@oceanhedonist2652 роки тому
@@michaelneal2729 Yeah.
@pattihainline15732 роки тому
I was 10 & we heard alot about all of it! Also Martin Luther King Murder! The hippie stuff & the vietnam war! Also JFK assanation i remember hearing all of it! The 60's were a very bad time of civil unrest!
@SevenGC897 днів тому
3/3 for books I picked up because of JRE and loved them. -Chaos by Tom O'Neill -Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock -DMT The Spirit Molecule by Dr Rick Strassman highly recommend all 3 if you get the chance.
@tomking70803 місяці тому
If you have not read Chaos yet, you definitely should. It took Tom over 20 years to write this amazing book which originally started out as a magazine article. Amazing book and highly recommend. I’ve read it twice over the years,it’s just so good
@JohnDoe-cd6ro3 роки тому
Rosemary's Baby was basically a biopic.
@feminem7six3 роки тому
Everything is hidden in plain sight. It has always been right in front of us.
@pbohearn3 роки тому
Too coincidental. You’re right. I wonder with Mia Farrow thought
@ranikjsarabsuj53013 роки тому
Who else goes straight to the comments to see if the vid is worth watching? Lol
@bobcourtier46743 роки тому
“I am one of your garbage people”. Even Manson was right sometimes.
@notapplicable3283 роки тому
“The garbage pickers of Ameeeericaaa”
@jaysantos5363 роки тому
@@notapplicable328 Charlie killed one less person that Ted Kennedy.
@notapplicable3283 роки тому
@@jaysantos536 i agree i was quoting a song off of Charles mansons first album he recorded before the famous murders.
@barahng2 роки тому
Oh garbage dump oh garbage dump
@jeanmichellelaurent2 роки тому
@@barahng why do they call you a garbage dump?
@subg8858Рік тому
Several Beach Boys songs are partially credited to Gregg Jakobson, but he was in management, not even a hobbyist musician. I suspect those songs were written by Manson, like Never Learn Not to Love, which is known as fact to have been written by Manson and paid for under the table by Dennis Wilson. The same guy listed as writer of all the songs credited to Jacobson
@janberkemeier7406Рік тому
"That was the 'first' letter?" "There were *three* of them!" Mr. O'Neill's sudden outburst of almost childlike glee when remembering the (probably equally insane) other letters is frankly adorable.
@bigbthecat69993 роки тому
Went from funny cat videos to this, youtube is fun
@jameson69303 роки тому
How did UKposts pick this for me?
@michaellasley19183 роки тому
It’s a “rich” vs “poor” issue not “black” “white” issue
@jameson69303 роки тому
@@michaellasley1918 Blacks were being set up as scapegoats. In that way it was a black white issue
@stevenray4092 роки тому
Theres vidoes of the CIA experimenting on kittens with acid, microwaves, evil shit.
@danielgreen70502 роки тому
You were on a UKposts journey
@lenwelch219511 місяців тому
I believe Tom wouldn’t steer us wrong. He has integrity. Hate to say it, but I can’t say hat about many people today.
@theoverunderthinker7 місяців тому
the thing is: a prosecutor is trying to get a conviction, so the motive they present to the jury is going to be one making them more willing to convict them. therefore you cannot expect the prosecutor's stated motive given at trial to be objective; they are doing a job. so makes sense that what the prosecutor says the reason for the crime is something that is repulsive, because that would be more effective than something more mundane.
@tommy11383 роки тому
"This Manson fella sounds like a real jerk!" ----- Norm Macdonald
@brusselsprout58512 роки тому
I’m 66 years old, grew up in the Bay Area during “the time” and have never been interested in the shadowy kind of glorifying the whole Manson thing. This is such a sensible approach that, for the first time ever, I am interested in reading the story. That Altamont and the end of that whole reign came up tells me this guy has pulled it all together. Sadly, intelligence keeps on pulling their bullshit on people. Excellent interview. I’m getting this book. Thank you.
@scarlettsemail24332 роки тому
It’s a great book. Bugliosi was a fame hungry ar*e & to hell with truth.
@smallfeet45812 роки тому
not being american i was interested in it , being able too watch some progs about it and mansons life story as i didnt know a lot about it , would not glorify it one bit ,
@63BaggiesРік тому
Oddly enough I watched the excellent David Fincher movie 'Zodiac' it really bought my limited memories of San Francisco and the Bay Area back to me via a cracking soundtrack.
@erisdiscordia7439Рік тому
CHARLES MANSON IS GOD
@paulvoorhies8821Рік тому
Have you read Season Of The Witch??
@droidsxi3271Рік тому
My aunt lived with Manson on Skull Ranch... Some wild shit.
@FarmhouseFelts7 місяців тому
I did my 12th grade year end term paper on the Manson murders and only used Helter Skelter and news source materials for reference. I wish this book was available at the time because that would have made the paper way more interesting. Like people saying that the ranch had undercover agents and was under surveillance for months before the murders is crazy!
@dannycolon57262 роки тому
The Man's theory is correct. Check out who Sharon's Tate Dad Was ..he was an Army officer who specialized in Psy Ops
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'jolly' west was a CIA psy/ops 'doctor' who was involved in almost EVERY odd murder ever
@63BaggiesРік тому
The entire Laurel Canyon creative movement seems to have been a CIA driven operation.
@richardpowell3259Рік тому
@@63Baggies Yea. " Weird Scenes In The Canyon". RIP Dave M.
@catmastertrash2447Рік тому
@@63Baggies Didn't Jared Leto buy Laurel Canyon?
@earlpipe9713Рік тому
Not Laurel Canyon, but Lookout Mountain in Laurel Canyon
@birsay1233 роки тому
Italian cookies, coffee and lemonade = brutal heartburn 🔥
@michaellasley19183 роки тому
It’s a “rich” vs “poor” issue not “black” “white” issue
@MaynardOwns3 роки тому
Try animal crackers and cranberry juice next.
@pj19093 роки тому
And a day on the toilet
@davidperez50893 роки тому
@@MaynardOwns what dya got your period?
@Dontneedahandle07 місяців тому
I’m glad they aren’t releasing it here in the states. The man taped a young girl, he doesn’t deserve to make ungodly amounts of money, while escaping prosecution.
@S.O.N.E6 місяців тому
Meanwhile you dont pay taxes once and get completeky fucked over. We are worse than scum to those people.
@valkyrie9024Рік тому
I’ve got Tom O’Neill’s book Chaos & it’s great. I highly recommend it.
@majinvipergaming2 роки тому
"These groups were trying to incite violence"... Sounds like most groups these days.
@MJAce852 роки тому
Or two certain groups, one with 3 letters, one that claims it's anti something or other but is definitely what it says it isn't
@majinvipergaming2 роки тому
@@MJAce85 no it's all groups. Every last one. Cause the minute you speak something that does fit the narrative or agenda of said group you're immediately a target. I don't need groups. I prefer isolation. I hope these groups die out. ALL of them.
@misterdanielo32812 роки тому
This was one of the most interesting interviews. This guest REALLY knew this topic like the back of his hand.
@springsoleiluna90907 місяців тому
Considering that Manson was sexually abused and he killed the pregnant wife of a child rapist the path to the motive isnt that hard to find
@johntoner56098 місяців тому
Why bring Trump into a completely unrelated interview?
@kellyposh83762 роки тому
One of my earliest memories is being in downtown L.A. (We lived in the suburbs, about 30 miles away from downtown, but we would go downtown every once in awhile to pick things up like...copies of our birth certificates for school/sports activities. I’m guessing that’s why we were there that day). I must have been about 3 years old. This day stands out in my memory... I remember walking down the street with my mom and older siblings. We were walking near the courthouse...there were a bunch of people outside the courthouse. And I just remember my mom redirecting us to cross the street from all the courthouse commotion...she grabbed my hand aggressively...and her grip on my hand was so tight it was hurting me as she half dragged me across the street. I remember looking at all the commotion and seeing two women with X’s on their foreheads heading towards the courthouse. I didn’t put it together until I was a teenager.
@SunflowerChild822 роки тому
That’s a profound, cool memory!
@googletool6802 роки тому
Thank You 🙏🏼 awesome share Kelly!
@georgemallory7972 роки тому
Wow! I love stories that tie people's everyday lives and tasks and criss cross them with famous (infamous) events. Thank you.
@brooklyn9398Рік тому
History.
@g50icemanРік тому
Wow to bad you didn't have a phone in those days could a snapped a pic Memories Forever Frozen in time I bet one of those women was Squeaky
@yourmothercalledshesaid4763 роки тому
I remember reading a very gritty book entitled Sick City, where the MacGuffin of the story was an old 8mm reel of orgies that took place in the Tate household. The cast of characters in this book really stood out as depraved addicts that had no real interest in the film's contents, but only the opportunities it would afford on the black market. Good read, kind of like a grimy L.A. version of Guy Ritchie's Snatch, but the diamond was instead a snuff film involving Sharon Tate and instead of wisecracking British tough guys, it was instead a cast of colorful addicts from skid row. I want to give credit to my late brother for having the best taste in literature, culture, and history and leaving his niche library to me. Tony O'Neil would be just a name if it wasn't for my weirdo little brother. I miss you every day and can't wait to see you again.
@yourmothercalledshesaid4763 роки тому
@Dana Leyba Thank you. Cheers.
@persephonel2117Рік тому
I lost my brother last year, he was obsessed with books. Mostly history and philosophy. Just wanted to send love. Losing a sibling is the hardest thing. We expect to have them by our side for life. Nothing more agonizing than losing your life long best friend.
@user-pq6mr6op3pРік тому
Snatch in no way should be compared to that book. That reference is ignorant..Snatch was about a one punch knock out Pikey that was a loose Canon. Explain the similarities between the two.
@billanddougsuck9 місяців тому
I feel like that story could totally be linked up with the stories out there about the Son of Sam murders almost a decade later. Apparently some of those murders were captured in snuff films to be sold on the black market. The brewing of an underbelly satanic cult. Could also possibly link it in with the John Holmes "Wonderland" murders 🤔🧐😲🤫
@LeslieFroelich3 місяці тому
was jane wyman on the 8mm film?
@amandamaynard1839Рік тому
I love when you question people and what they say!!!
@markj.62767 місяців тому
And a similar tactic is being used on us today. Wake up people!
@ethelesparza21274 роки тому
RIP Sharon Tate 💐
@josephcusumano28854 роки тому
🙏
@sadbunny34794 роки тому
MrParkerman6 oh...I didn't know that.
@Joseph-np7fw4 роки тому
Ethel..... because it's not true.
@KardashianVideos4 роки тому
@@MrParkerman6 lmao no she didn't. all of this happened after she died.
@thegamingchannel90234 роки тому
And still for the baby i find it bad!!! That baby would never see live he/she never ask for nothing so!
@brooklynzoo29202 роки тому
The book is called "Chaos" it's a really awesome read
@MercilessBreed7 місяців тому
Moral of the story is dont trust journalists with your information.
@moyadapne968Рік тому
23:24 Tom Wolfe wrote about this in his book, Radical Chic, in 1970.
@osamallama420avs54 роки тому
Thanks for your work Mr. Rogan, so many topics, lines of thought and other inspirations I otherwise wouldn't have known or bothered giving much thought, you're getting me back into my brain, I appreciate it~
@tommiddlefinger61882 роки тому
I've always thought it was kind of cool that I was born on the same night as the first Manson murders. It was a cool thing to brag about as a teenager.
@paulvoorhies8821Рік тому
@@tommiddlefinger6188 Not you too. You’re connected to this damn curse of a case too. Will this terror never end. Why did it have to affect so many people directly. Why?? You have my condolences. I bet you and Paul would have hung out if he’d just lived.
@BatrickPateman4304 роки тому
Knowing Roman, knowing Hollywood I have no doubts in my mind that tape was real.
@cactaceous3 роки тому
Get help. Honestly. You will fall for anything then.
@kaylenejantjes81133 роки тому
It's a constant back and forth about what's real and what's fabrication with the intention of wanting a specific response from the public.
@97NikeSb3 роки тому
Yeah I’m sure you know Roman personally lmaooooo fucking idiot
@herbthompson89373 роки тому
@@97NikeSb you need to know someone personally to have a good idea of what they're about??
@alexgiarmo53723 роки тому
@@cactaceous ll
@kurtvanluven93512 місяці тому
When I worked in San Bernardino, there was a bartender at the Maruko. Her mom used to take her up to the Spahn Ranch sometimes. Charlie gave her a balloon.
@pauline9580Рік тому
I saw a clip of Roman directing her in a film I believe was something to do with vampire's (can't remember the name) but I was shocked at how he spoke to her,awful and disrespectful. She looked so forlorn being spoken to like that,I felt bad for her.
@ftsumnerwitchdoctor11 місяців тому
great movie though- fearless vampire killers. polanski is a pos. not afraid to like some of his work- rosemarys baby still my favorite. fearless vampire killers is pretty superb as well. polanski is a pos though
@davidedwards322510 місяців тому
The Fearless Vampire Killers. I saw it in 1968
@joanneesther7772 роки тому
My grandpa worked on the LaBianca murders, it’s in his book Profiles in murder by Russell Vorpagel and Ann Rule
@dawnmartz8483Рік тому
😯
@scottiebones3 роки тому
Dave McGowan did his own research and made a book on the Laurel canyon musicians from that era and its bizarre links to military intelligence, also linked Manson to all this... Really interesting stuff a good read.
@whatabouttheearth3 роки тому
Not the same as this David McGowan ukposts.info/slow/PL3cOKFAZN8DuhuMXnEqph0wdIXRR4rPwG
@kerrileelawrence24023 роки тому
@@whatabouttheearth David McGowan Wierd Scenes Inside the Canyon and Programmed to Kill.. Derailing Democracy.. Dave Wrote At Least Five or more Books..
@thisistheworldtoday3 роки тому
yes McGowan goes deep... Sharons mysterious military father...so few photos or info on him... there is no wedding of Sharon and Polanski with her parents... just a big celeb wedding in Europe with no parents...
@Cugelclever3 роки тому
@@thisistheworldtoday Yes, McGowan found things that no one else even thought to look for. I found the whole situation with Sharon Tate's dad strange; how he "went undercover" after her death, pretending to be a hippie... But really, every page is filled with WTF moments. RIP Dave.
@alexanderaugust78343 роки тому
Dave McGowan was a legend, he did amazing research.
@paulaharrisbaca48513 місяці тому
Bugliosi did get weirder and weirder as he got older. His brain was so lightning fast in the 1960's-80's and then I think it imploded. I remember hearing him talking at great length about how terrible the parking garage directional signs were when he was going to a radio interview and he expounded eloquently but exceptionally frenetically about how lame these signs were. Well, I knew what he meant but I don't know why he was so passionate about it.
@stevenee1ply2 роки тому
He described a 21 century corporate executive. Fierce bullying followed by pathetic begging, then fiercely threatening then grotesque pleading. On and on. No shame and no honour.
@michaelcomazzi50472 роки тому
Yes 👍 he did
@rhetrozenberg2 роки тому
Chaos is such a great book - I’ve read it three times and will probably read it again.
@tierneylogan59432 роки тому
It really is... i hope he writes the follow up on RFK!
@stephenbell95652 роки тому
@@tierneylogan5943 he is writing a second part I just watched the podcast on koncrete
@tierneylogan59432 роки тому
@@stephenbell9565 yay great to hear!
@5thdimension6252 роки тому
Incredible read! Ppl are so asleep with what happened with these murders
@911TruthFighter2 роки тому
’Neill knows very well (I’ve been in touch with him) that Manson was a CIA (Operation CHAOS) agent and no celebs were killed that night. O’Neil is controlled op and so is his bullshit book. (As is Joe Roman.)
@michaelharms76923 місяці тому
Leslie Van Houten testified to Helter Skelter before Bugliosi was assigned.