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Extra History

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French Savant Pierre-François Bouchard finding the Rosetta Stone is just the beginning of unlocking the secret language of ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphics. Along with the efforts of Thomas Young, a polymath, Jean-François Champollion a talented linguist, and the discovery of the Philae Obelisk, the code was finally broken!
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@extrahistory
@extrahistory 11 місяців тому
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@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 11 місяців тому
Your videos and content are out of this world!🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Texanprime
@Texanprime 11 місяців тому
Please do Texas revolution please extra history please
@Cedar_Wolf
@Cedar_Wolf 11 місяців тому
Yay! We got a Zoey cameo! She's a good kitty.
@triassiam9031
@triassiam9031 11 місяців тому
How about getting more into the Greek revolution of 1821 against the ottoman empire
@gyllenspetzfamily7993
@gyllenspetzfamily7993 11 місяців тому
Subtle dig at the stupid TV show that lied about Cleopatra. Smooth!
@DragoniteSpam
@DragoniteSpam 11 місяців тому
The same Thomas Young who did the double slit experiment? Whoever called him "the last man who knew everything" wasn't messing around.
@krupam0
@krupam0 11 місяців тому
Also the same Young after whom Young's modulus was named, apparently.
@DragoniteSpam
@DragoniteSpam 11 місяців тому
@@krupam0 And here I thought I knew all the overachievers when I was in high school.
@KeithBoehler
@KeithBoehler 11 місяців тому
If true i was wondering why the name and time period felt familiar.
@robert-janthuis9927
@robert-janthuis9927 11 місяців тому
@@DragoniteSpam I'd suggest looking into Euler and Gauss. Basically, if there is some concept in math which got discovered between like 1800 and 2000, there is like a 50/50 chance that either one of those already discovered that same thing a few hundred years prior.
@DragoniteSpam
@DragoniteSpam 11 місяців тому
@@robert-janthuis9927 You expect Euler and Gauss to show up all over the place in math (and Newton in physics, and Turing and Shannon in computing...), the remarkable thing about people like Young are how many different domains they did important work in over a single lifetime.
@thepbg8453
@thepbg8453 11 місяців тому
As a individual who has worked the galleries of the British Museum, no item is more requested or sought after than the Rosetta Stone: or the most missed. People will ask where it is even while standing right next to it, and it is on everyone’s bucket tour. The biggest irony as to why people struggle to find it is the sea of people who envelop it’s case just to get a look: accidentally blocks it from view. In short its one of the few times you will see people excited to see a Tax Document
@cebonvieuxjack
@cebonvieuxjack 11 місяців тому
That's cause its exposition is not ideal, it's a relatively small stone place at size height in the middle of a hallway between the Egyptian and Assyrian corridors, a place which is bound to be crowded. It sould be place at the end of the Egyptian Corridor, head-high up on a wall, facing down the alley filled with statues and sarcophagus. With the explanations and information placed next to it, on both sides... Ugh, Britons... NO SENSE OF PRESENTATION ! If we had brought it to the Louvre this would have NEVER happened!!! 🙄😤😤
@thepbg8453
@thepbg8453 11 місяців тому
I would graciously like to mock the Louvre in turn and undermine its layout… however I have never been so I will instead aggressively drink tea at you. *SIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPP!* *This is a joke :P*
@cebonvieuxjack
@cebonvieuxjack 11 місяців тому
@@thepbg8453 I would have liked to answer by smoking loudly but I don't know how to phonetically put that into letters. I am shattered, and defeated.
@SirV3nt
@SirV3nt 11 місяців тому
​@cebonvieuxjack as an American, I would like to look down on both of you from some misguided sense of superiority, then proceed to throw the vast majority of my money into the defense budget. I chose to make the sound of an F-22 Raptor fly by, costing the taxpayer millions of dollars. *WOOOOOOOOOSH*
@bobsickle2336
@bobsickle2336 11 місяців тому
​@@cebonvieuxjack Probably would have been stolen like the Mona Lisa.
@grant.5345
@grant.5345 11 місяців тому
Imagine travelling across the world to somewhere you have never been before, and be surrounded by the ancient monuments of the past carved in a language only you know.
@midshipman8654
@midshipman8654 8 місяців тому
Thats a striking image to think about. Something few people will ever experience.
@arc-sd8sk
@arc-sd8sk 6 місяців тому
damn
@BassOutcast
@BassOutcast 20 днів тому
Basically Robin from One Piece
@scareantics
@scareantics 9 днів тому
that is what this “history” lesson/video was: only imagination. It never happened, none ever learned to read hieroglyphs….
@Nyst2
@Nyst2 11 місяців тому
Imagine taking the actual Rosetta Stone from the French and still getting beaten by them at translating it.
@v_cpt-phasma_v689
@v_cpt-phasma_v689 11 місяців тому
after the English started it, champ couldnt have done it without young.
@wikirexmax
@wikirexmax 11 місяців тому
​@@v_cpt-phasma_v689 The English didn't started it, they almost tried from day one. Champolion's interest into coptic was also a core element for being able to decipher and speak the language.
@cpj93070
@cpj93070 10 місяців тому
@@wikirexmax You French are still not getting it, it's staying in England end off. 😜
@RazorsharpLT
@RazorsharpLT 9 місяців тому
@@cpj93070 If it wasn't for the French you wouldn't even HAVE the Rosetta stone. The only thing you're good at is stealing. coming from a Lithuanian... man, i wish Napoleon would have won.
@jordaneggerman4734
@jordaneggerman4734 6 місяців тому
​@@cpj93070 ...in the words of a true lover of history.... _"It belongs in a _*_museum!"_* ...Just...the one in Cairo, not the one in London...
@DavidJamesHenry
@DavidJamesHenry 11 місяців тому
This is way better of a story than I was led to believe as a child who was told "it's just unimportant tax information"
@Jimera0
@Jimera0 11 місяців тому
They're not wrong, but it's the story around it and what they could do with it that made it a great story... if they left all that out, no wonder it was dull lol. It is rather amusing though that one of the most notable archaeological finds in human history is unimportant, dry tax law though.
@DavidJamesHenry
@DavidJamesHenry 11 місяців тому
@@Jimera0 i think the story of Ptolemy V's power struggle is just as interesting, and provides important context. This stone was carved during the Punic Wars while Hannibal was invading Italy. That's a lot of historical juice that I was never told!
@2MeterLP
@2MeterLP 11 місяців тому
Its not even unimportant tax information! A sudden tax exemption for all priest say a great many things about the periods political climate!
@DavidJamesHenry
@DavidJamesHenry 11 місяців тому
@@2MeterLP we are STILL talking about tax exemptions for religious institutions to this day!
@zimriel
@zimriel 3 місяці тому
@@DavidJamesHenry iirc there was a massive popular revolt against the Greeks (and their corrupt local priests) under Ptolemy IV, which actually reinstalled pharaohs in upper Egypt, southern Nile. But they lost.
@albevanhanoy
@albevanhanoy 11 місяців тому
You should have mentioned that Egypt acknowledged Champollion's work and gifted an obelisk to France to thank them for deciphering hieroglyphs. I don't think there is a clearer way to say that he won and Young lost :P .
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 11 місяців тому
They also gifted Britain Cleopatra's Needle at the same time as thanks for kicking the French out of Egypt. It was presented in 1819 but remained in Egypt until 1877 due to transport costs, only being finally moved when the Egyptians proposed demolishing it to make way for land development.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 11 місяців тому
Egypt gave two obelisks to France. But the first one was so tedious to transport, we left the second one in Egypt and a century and a half later a french president officially renounced to the gift XD
@albevanhanoy
@albevanhanoy 11 місяців тому
@Krankar Volund Oh yeah I remember that story! Turns out, moving kilotons of stone across an ocean isn't that easy x)
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 11 місяців тому
@@albevanhanoy That's why I prefer when people give me their gift at my home :p
@22espec
@22espec 11 місяців тому
Although I would like to know what they think of Champollion statue in the College of France. Do they really have to put his foot over a Pharao's head?
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz 11 місяців тому
6:58 Belzoni was not just a circus strongman, but was also one of the most influential people involved n beginning the science of Egyptology
@Boretheory
@Boretheory 11 місяців тому
No italians can’t be important h that doesn’t fit Germano-centric narrative
@Kaiyanwang82
@Kaiyanwang82 10 місяців тому
@@Boretheory meanwhilem in the Belzoni english wikipedia: 1 portrait by the british, 1 by a dutchman, 1 medal depicting him in the british museum.
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 11 місяців тому
Thomas Young and Jean-François Champollion arguing who deciphered Egyptian Language, and I'm here wanting to hug both, just to say: "You both did a great job, and we are grateful for it".
@ndemers
@ndemers 11 місяців тому
"I just want both teams to have a great time"
@occam7382
@occam7382 11 місяців тому
At the same time though, as an American, I really just want to watch them both duke it out while I enjoy my popcorn and fondly remember how we owned them during the Suez Crisis. Good times.
@tygrenvoltaris4782
@tygrenvoltaris4782 11 місяців тому
English and frenchie rivalry never ends..
@SpMile
@SpMile 11 місяців тому
Also mention that working together would have been better
@zimriel
@zimriel 3 місяці тому
kind of like Alice Kober / Michael Ventris. Both died young. Alternate universe, they met, married, and had sex like rabbits
@sErgEantaEgis12
@sErgEantaEgis12 11 місяців тому
8:45 "He uncovered kings who's names had not been spoken for millennia" I'm very embarrassed that I never really thought about this but it makes so much sense and it's so mind-blowing.
@bud9133
@bud9133 11 місяців тому
I'm so embarrassed my British ancestors wrote on the side of an important artefact what basically says "Brits Roolz, Frenchies Droolz!"
@khosrowanushirwan7591
@khosrowanushirwan7591 11 місяців тому
Lol, no need to feel embarrassed those were the exploits of your ancestors not yours.
@Tyork42
@Tyork42 11 місяців тому
@@khosrowanushirwan7591there are plenty of brits whod do that now😂
@irenedeneb6188
@irenedeneb6188 11 місяців тому
In all fairness, the Ptolemies themselves often did the same thing. The British were adding their own history to an ancient object, as has been done by conquerors since time immemorial.
@watchm4ker
@watchm4ker 11 місяців тому
​@@irenedeneb6188Not just the Ptolemies. One of the big hurdles of studying ancient Egyptian history is that over thousands of years, multiple Kingdoms and even more Dynasties, there was a LOT of historical revision to better fit the then-current rulers. Scratching out and re-carving names, claiming achievements that were proven older than the claimant's family, switching around gods as parts of the religion fell in and out of favour... It all builds up over the Millenia, until the Romans took over and ended much of the priesthood, consigning Hieroglyphics to the past.
@RaffieFaffie
@RaffieFaffie 11 місяців тому
I'm humoured by it, I wouldn't do it if I found an ancient artifact though.
@leonhardeuler7647
@leonhardeuler7647 11 місяців тому
For those of you interested in learning more I suggest checking of Native Lang's video on how Egyptian was deciphered.
@ikeekieeki
@ikeekieeki 11 місяців тому
seconded
@carlosalbertofernandezvele7574
@carlosalbertofernandezvele7574 11 місяців тому
Just think that Champollion, without the knowledge and resources of today's media did a better research on Ancient Egypt than 3 so-called Egyptologist for a certain network.
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo 11 місяців тому
He even read the name of said 'documentary'
@buwitre1
@buwitre1 10 місяців тому
Who needs Champollion or the Rosetta Stone for that matter, when a grandmother knows everything about Egypt.
@cujonuke
@cujonuke 11 місяців тому
I can see it now. Solider:"The new bulding scrap for the fortresses just arrived." Commander: "Whoa wait wait wait. This one looks different."
@bernardoheusi6146
@bernardoheusi6146 11 місяців тому
I can't. That sounds stupid.
@andyjay729
@andyjay729 11 місяців тому
Good thing they noticed it, regardless of what their exact words were upon discovery. As was pointed out in the "Napoleon in Egypt" series, ancient steles were often repurposed as building blocks.
@birdofclay9581
@birdofclay9581 11 місяців тому
Even though I always had an interest in ancient history, for the longest time I thought that the Rosetta stone was much ... smaller. Like, the size of a sheet of paper. It was only a couple years ago, when I saw an image of it with a person standing next to it and realized: "Wait, that thing is massive!"
@tecpaocelotl
@tecpaocelotl 11 місяців тому
The next one should be about deciphering the Mayan writing.
@Writer_Productions_Map
@Writer_Productions_Map 10 місяців тому
Lol
@tecpaocelotl
@tecpaocelotl 8 місяців тому
@@Writer_Productions_Map what's so funny?
@Writer_Productions_Map
@Writer_Productions_Map 8 місяців тому
@@tecpaocelotl idk i forgot I even commented this 💀
@WaterShowsProd
@WaterShowsProd 11 місяців тому
Similarly ancient Khmer was decyphered when Etienne Aymonier discovered a stele at a small temple in present-day Sakaew, Thailand. The stone was inscribed in both Sanskrit and Khmer and told the story of the founding of the kingdom and a list of monarchs, unlocking two centuries of lost history. When France drew up borders for their new colony, the temple ended up on the Siamese side, so Aymonier attempted to steal the stele by hauling it with an elephant. He failed-it's not known for certain it was him, but he was annoyed that such an important find was on the "wrong" side of the arbitrary border France drew through Siamese controlled territory, and locals witnessed a European attempt to take the stone. The Siamese then fetched the stone and took it to Bangkok where it sat in The National Museum before being destroyed by a fire. The temple has been reconstructed and I've performed there twice, in shows telling the history of the temple, the discovery it provided, and the history of The Khmer Kingdom.
@olivierb9716
@olivierb9716 11 місяців тому
kmers civilisation is certainly one of the less know and the more fascinating civilisation.
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 11 місяців тому
Rosetta Stone would be like in 2000 years from now and somebody finds an intact Alibaba instruction manual. It's written in 3 languages English/Chinese/Spanish. They already understand Chinese because this knowledge somehow survived 2000 years into the future but Spanish and English were lost to time along with all Romance languages. Using this Alibaba instruction manual they are able to also tap into some Greek and Latin because of the nature of Romance Languages. The Rosetta Stone itself is deciphered once again and read after studying the great Alibaba manual. The people of the future wonder who was this great Alibaba and why was he so important to have to have his important message read by so many different types of people?
@AustrianEmpire415
@AustrianEmpire415 8 місяців тому
I like how there are three distinct animation styles, the one in the main series (examples:napoleon in Egypt, Crimean War, Siege of Vienna, & path to Pearl Harbor), the OG style of this video, Justinian, Bronze Age collapse, & Punic wars, and then the style in extra mythology
@kala_asi
@kala_asi 11 місяців тому
As someone who likes to mess with reconstructions of European languages and later check my guesses, the section at 7:35 spoke to me on a personal level
@alfrancisbuada2591
@alfrancisbuada2591 11 місяців тому
I can wholeheartedly say. That this artifact has brought more understanding of the Egyptian culture than anywhere else
@LawrenceMK2
@LawrenceMK2 11 місяців тому
“I also can’t eat the Rosetta Stone” is such a wonderful sentence.
@CollinMcLean
@CollinMcLean Місяць тому
Not with that attitude!
@grdja83
@grdja83 11 місяців тому
I got terrified for a second you would omit this from the "Napoleon in Egypt" story.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 11 місяців тому
"William John Banks was touring Egypt when he fell in love with a 22-foot tall, 6-ton obelisk." A better love story than Twilight.
@jakegarvin7634
@jakegarvin7634 11 місяців тому
6:46 - the man was right, it really tied the front yard together
@saidtoshimaru1832
@saidtoshimaru1832 11 місяців тому
Caligula said the same thing. Now the Obelisc he brought to Rome is in the sentre of Sain Peter's Square.
@jakegarvin7634
@jakegarvin7634 11 місяців тому
@@saidtoshimaru1832 a pope or two as well. They've been fighting over that thing in particular for 2000 years at least
@kloothommel6569
@kloothommel6569 11 місяців тому
Pharao's could change the hyrogliphic script based on their own personal preference. This also meant that all important carvings of tale's, laws, religious teksts were changed dozens of times because some random pharao liked certain symbols slightly different better. This also didnt help to translate ancient egyptian later.
@TheHorzabora
@TheHorzabora 11 місяців тому
The full history of the Rosetta Stone is just one of those amazing series of fascinating historical events and coincidences.
@sonofrivadin3684
@sonofrivadin3684 11 місяців тому
0:18 You hear this Netflix?
@thecaelspice
@thecaelspice 11 місяців тому
"I also Can't eat the Rosetta Stone" Well not with That attitude you Can't Matt
@markadams7046
@markadams7046 11 місяців тому
I'm surprised Rosetta Stone didn't sponsor this episode.
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 11 місяців тому
Talk about a missed opportunity.
@wikiuser92
@wikiuser92 11 місяців тому
I read about this story in a history book when I was a kid, and it's always fascinated me. Thanks for providing me with more details.
@Itsgay2read
@Itsgay2read 11 місяців тому
The only reason I know about the Rosetta Stone is because of Rick Riordans The Kane Chronicles (it's literally the first artifact we see in the trilogy). Also, just love how casually they desecrated it along the way before it wound up in a British Museum. Just encapsulating all the worst aspects of archeological history😂
@digitalhistory8526
@digitalhistory8526 11 місяців тому
We just wanted everyone to know that we beat the French to get it 😂
@CollinMcLean
@CollinMcLean 11 місяців тому
Britain with artifacts invokes the image of the seagulls from Finding Nemo “MINE!”
@occam7382
@occam7382 11 місяців тому
@@CollinMcLean, now I'm imaginging a bunch of seagulls with monocles and top hats throwing down over a rock with some scribblings on it... and it is beautiful.
@CollinMcLean
@CollinMcLean 11 місяців тому
@@occam7382 Someone needs to meme that now... Britain with artifacts and Britain with other countries.
@cpj93070
@cpj93070 10 місяців тому
@@CollinMcLean Cry more, you lost French boy. 😜😜
@aldrinmilespartosa1578
@aldrinmilespartosa1578 11 місяців тому
"I can't eat the Rosetta Stone" "Skill issue"
@enxman7697
@enxman7697 11 місяців тому
Those stories are amazing! Keep up your wonderful work!
@onehitkill5816
@onehitkill5816 11 місяців тому
The Rosetta stone along with some other pieces on how to speak egyptian really did unlock our understanding of Egypt and its great past.
@thomasrinschler6783
@thomasrinschler6783 11 місяців тому
If you want to have some real fun, do a series on Ptolemy V's children and grandchildren, Ptolemy VI through X (although you can throw in the very short reign of Ptolemy XI before he was literally torn apart by an Alexandrian mob only a few days into his reign) and their sisters (some of whom were their wives, although the sisters would also marry into the Seleucids). It's a story of murder, incest, backstabbing, and civil wars in two kingdoms, Ptolemaic and Seleucid, that puts Game of Thrones to shame. The BBC did a series called "The Cleopatras" in the '80s that covers this period in its first few episodes (although they exaggerate quite a bit, and it's... um... *very* '80s in effects and soundtrack). Cleopatra VII, *the* Cleopatra, was actually a pale imitation of some the political maneuvering her ancestors were involved in... Heck, Cleopatra Selene I could support a whole series just on her own...
@Oxtocoatl13
@Oxtocoatl13 11 місяців тому
I think the sole reason why Ptolemaic family intrigue isn't better known is that everyone was called either Ptolemy or Cleopatra, and their family tree is a Christmas wreath that would make the Targaryens puke.
@ivanwilliams7413
@ivanwilliams7413 11 місяців тому
Wow, I didn't know how much trouble it was to decipher hieroglyphics from the Stone. I thought it was like, "Oh, match the shapes to the other shapes that form words." And now, yeah, that sounds ridiculous considering how complex both civilizations were.
@CollinMcLean
@CollinMcLean 10 місяців тому
Add to the fact it's not a perfect one for one because Egyptian writing doesn't have vowels meaning there are literal gaps to fill when translating. I learned to read Younger Futhark for fun and for art and design purposes and that took months. I can only imagine how much of a headache it was to decode Egyptian from essentially scratch.
@ikeekieeki
@ikeekieeki 11 місяців тому
what an amazing story, and well-told
@iapetusmccool
@iapetusmccool 11 місяців тому
I grew up in Dorset. The estate with that obelisk was just outside my home town.
@treeaboo
@treeaboo 11 місяців тому
Kingston Lacy, it has lovely gardens. Got dragged around there a lot as a kid because my parents liked those gardens, I always thought the giant obelisk sitting in the middle of the estate looked cool but I never realised it was so important in deciphering hieroglyphics.
@theanglo-lithuanian1768
@theanglo-lithuanian1768 11 місяців тому
Fascinating. Great video!
@Pavlos_Charalambous
@Pavlos_Charalambous 11 місяців тому
Interesting enough the word demotic is still being used as an expression in Greek for common people's dialect Yes back in the day languages had the everyday And elaborated snobbish versions As a matter of fact Greece kept using what they literally called the Katharevousa - the purist until the mid 80s!!!
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 11 місяців тому
Demotic just means popular, the complete name of the third script on the Rosetta stone is demotic egyptian. It's just that we really study demotic scripts only in egyptology so the egyptian is dropped ^^
@Theraot
@Theraot 11 місяців тому
The ostensibly preposterous proposition that the intricacies of sophisticated language yield an arcane nature to the populace is worthy of contemplation.
@Pavlos_Charalambous
@Pavlos_Charalambous 11 місяців тому
@@krankarvolund7771" demos " the people in ancient Greek For example the ancient Athenian parliament was known as " I eklisia tou demou" the gathering of the people 😉 In Greek there is a entire family of words related to demos For example traditional " people's" songs are known as " demotica" popular people " demophilis" etc Basically almost everything having to do with popular or people's starts with demo- 😉
@Pavlos_Charalambous
@Pavlos_Charalambous 11 місяців тому
@@Theraot exatly Dat 🙃😉
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 11 місяців тому
@@Pavlos_Charalambous Yes, demos means people. But demotica is not demos, it's demotica, which means "popular". It's the same root with a suffix, just like in english. People's song, how could we say that? Oh yeah, popular song :p Popular means "from the people" before meaning "famous", you know that right? A popular song now means a famous song, but originally it's a song from the people, we still use it in that sense for the popular class, another word for the working class. I don't really understand your answer ^^'
@johnnybadboy3475
@johnnybadboy3475 11 місяців тому
SO GLAD to see this in my subscription feed!
@cultuschoco
@cultuschoco 11 місяців тому
Omg, literally saw it today and there’s a video now on UKposts, thank you so much Extra Credit!
@bobs_toys
@bobs_toys 11 місяців тому
It feels weird to actually see stuff like this.
@ambroiseperret6460
@ambroiseperret6460 11 місяців тому
what a great episode thank you Extra History
@glitterboy2098
@glitterboy2098 11 місяців тому
man, this would have been a perfect video for Rosetta Stone language Learning Software to have sponsored.
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro 6 місяців тому
what a fascinating tale we do not hear enough about
@GamerFromJump
@GamerFromJump 11 місяців тому
Congrats on Episode 150!
@dosierchannel6387
@dosierchannel6387 3 місяці тому
Now that’s the best way to do an ad! Good job! Quick and subtle not an entire five minutes of your video
@thibs2837
@thibs2837 11 місяців тому
Bravo Champollion !
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 11 місяців тому
Love your videos guys! So imformativr!😊😊😊❤❤❤
@KhakiLuckyLabbot
@KhakiLuckyLabbot 15 днів тому
Awesome content.
@kamayomama3980
@kamayomama3980 11 місяців тому
Another great video
@dalecooper9942
@dalecooper9942 11 днів тому
Thanks for explaining how champollion deciphered the hieroglyphs, Greek, and the demoniac language
@MauriceBear
@MauriceBear 11 місяців тому
I would suggest a proper food plan in place for Extra History, nice to have sponsors like Factor but a food plan would help majorly. Also Napoleon himself had a foe waiting for him in the wings: Bnuuies.
@bartz0rt928
@bartz0rt928 11 місяців тому
8:48 pet peeve: "millennia" is plural. The singular form is "millennium". Like the Backstreet Boys album.
@kingmink138
@kingmink138 11 місяців тому
10 minutes live and u got 2.4k already. Keep up the good work
@naly202
@naly202 3 місяці тому
It goes like this with the British Museum: "One man's trash is another man's treasure", the second man sees the potential and takes it home. Then the first man realises that his discarded construction material was valuable and wants it back.... Not all item were like this, but many were... Instead of crying over what's been stolen, we should think how many more invaluable items were destroyed, discarded, neglected, etc because people didn't know what they were.
@drallagon
@drallagon 11 місяців тому
While linguistics was just barely born as a science at that time, the act of comparing languages described is work of its predecessor: Philology. It wasn't until Saussure in the early 1900's that the linguistics would pick up steam, as far as I remember.
@jonmararbiter0721
@jonmararbiter0721 11 місяців тому
Yay I’m glad you post
@ursleiter5611
@ursleiter5611 11 місяців тому
Sometimes, a leap in understanding is solely due to blind luck. I wonder what else is locked under sand and rocks.
@Naiwaqp
@Naiwaqp 3 місяці тому
Thanks!
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 2 місяці тому
Thank you so much for supporting the show!
@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 11 місяців тому
Kanji is an ideograph like a lot of Sino-Chinese, but kana are syllabary: So represent sound, but 2 sounds at the same time. か for example is "hiragana ka" 火- though is an ideograph for fire, which translates into Korean, Chinese and Japanese. (Korean and Japanese borrow Chinese ideographs, not sounds, but aren't related to Chinese. Like English is a Germanic language, but borrows heavily from Latin) Calling Chinese "symbols" is also off, but I suppose there isn't enough time for linguistic talk. 瀑 (waterfall) for example has the radical water which is taken from the character: 海(sea) such radicals can influence the meaning and the sound of the word. Making 瀑 a compound ideograph. (There's another one that has a dragon, (Eastern) and water in front that also means waterfall) But Chinese is more isolating than English in terms of grammar and more noun-based as well. Sorry, my inner linguist feels a bit irked. I get it was a throw away line, but still... I got this huge lecture from one of my professors about it, so I thought I would pass the knowledge down. BTW, there's a solid argument that all writing systems are ideographs, but that's way too far into linguistics and off topic of this video. Sorry to interrupt your regular programming.
@timothystamm3200
@timothystamm3200 11 місяців тому
What because most alphabets are modified hieroglyphs?
@geoffreyherrick298
@geoffreyherrick298 11 місяців тому
Seeing how Chinese ideograms evolved from pictographs really helped me to understand what I was reading. What's in a Chinese Character by Tan Huay Peng was my Rosetta Stone!
@geoffreyherrick298
@geoffreyherrick298 11 місяців тому
There is also the onyomi for Chinese readings and kunyomi for Japanese readings. An example would be Kou for onyomi and Kuchi or Guchi for kunyomi.
@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 11 місяців тому
@@geoffreyherrick298 You should have recognized that 火 is read か as in the word for Tuesday in Japanese. ;) But the common reading is ひ. But technically my professor said to me that they are compound ideographs, and gave me a huge paper about it. Some of them look literal like "water dragon" or "person sitting" is a woman... but some of the compounds are made up of sound and pictures and various concepts and ideas put together, which can shift meaning from imported language as they interpret the meaning differently.
@barbaros99
@barbaros99 11 місяців тому
It's stuff like this that makes me so glad Koreans decided to make their common written language syllabary instead of ideographic. It made it so much easier to learn (which was the whole point of Hangeul).
@flammamancer
@flammamancer 11 місяців тому
I learn something new in these videos. I always assumed the Rosetta stone was made in the bronze age and not the Ptolemy dynasty.
@deniseeulert2503
@deniseeulert2503 11 місяців тому
Oh this is a great story.
@ASpaceOstrich
@ASpaceOstrich 11 місяців тому
I *still* hear that heiroglyphics are pictograms and that never made any sense to me, because you can't make a language using only pictures of things. It just doesn't work. You can't draw a picture of so many complex concepts. Glad to know that thats not the case.
@Galistarwater
@Galistarwater 2 місяці тому
We need at least one episode on the great Giovanni Belzoni and his contribution to early Egyptology.
@l3ete1geuse
@l3ete1geuse 11 місяців тому
So much history I wish I had been told about in school.
@xboxplayer3788
@xboxplayer3788 11 місяців тому
I love the original art style for extra history!
@davidwilliam9681
@davidwilliam9681 11 місяців тому
They thought they'd find powerful lost knowledge, and they only found out about tax law from a defunct regime.
@andyjay729
@andyjay729 11 місяців тому
Hey, 2000 years from now some future archaeologists will probably decipher the lost English language by reading the Spanish and Hmong translations of the "if you need a translation, please call this number" section of some random healthcare or financial documents.
@_wayward_494
@_wayward_494 11 місяців тому
Did you watch the video? The powerful lost knowledge of the hieroglyphs was regained thanks to this stone
@davidwilliam9681
@davidwilliam9681 11 місяців тому
@_wayward_494 And what good was it? Did it contain the secret to immortality or anti-gravity? No, just taxes. Not even useful because that regime stopped collecting taxes over a thousand years ago. Obsolete information about taxes.
@sevenguardians7517
@sevenguardians7517 11 місяців тому
I finally started hello fresh and yeah it’s worth it thanks for recommending it to me
@joshuaaddaeandcartoons
@joshuaaddaeandcartoons 11 місяців тому
Lesss gooo a new vid
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 11 місяців тому
The term 'Rosetta Stone' is now used to refer to the essential clue to a new field of knowledge.
@pdruiz2005
@pdruiz2005 5 місяців тому
At 4:19. Interestingly enough, that was also the problem with ancient Mayan hieroglyphs. Lots of linguists thought this was an ideographic script, and their findings held sway over Maya studies for centuries. But that made the script even more complex and incomprehensible. It was only in the 1970s that archeologists and linguists realized that the script was a mixture of ideograms and phonetic sounds. Adding to the seemingly insurmountable complexity, the Mayans also had the nasty habit of linking one common sound to four or five symbols, similar to the way modern Chinese does. Which just multiplied the ways you could get something wrong. Deciphering of a lot Mayan hieroglyphs continues to this day. But a good 80% to 85% has been deciphered. Yay!!!
@darreljones8645
@darreljones8645 11 місяців тому
Always fun to see footage of the real Zoey during the sponsor segment.
@silveryuno
@silveryuno 11 місяців тому
8:35 What a moment that must have been...
@Richforce1
@Richforce1 11 місяців тому
You'd think people would now start calling it the Rashid Stone.
@ThePkmage
@ThePkmage 11 місяців тому
I had the pleasure of seeing this tablet in the British museum. it's bigger than I expected and is incredible
@masterfarah4615
@masterfarah4615 11 місяців тому
Of course the Rosetta Stone was about taxes
@fakjbf3129
@fakjbf3129 11 місяців тому
The other possibility was complaining about low quality copper ore.
@Paludion
@Paludion 11 місяців тому
And the Egyptians were obsessed with death. Fitting.
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick 11 місяців тому
Most writing was about taxes for most of the history of writing.
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 11 місяців тому
@@fakjbf3129 "I understood that reference." - Capt. Steve Rogers, U.S. Army (retd.)
@larryalvares1369
@larryalvares1369 11 місяців тому
This video was uploaded at 1:30 PM on May 27th
@aldbgbnkladg
@aldbgbnkladg 11 місяців тому
6:21, I didn't know Egyptians had a hieroglyph for the wifi icon... 🤔😉🤣
@joosepaivio7005
@joosepaivio7005 5 місяців тому
Kiitos!
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 4 місяці тому
Thank you for helping support the channel!
@michelangelolamargese7032
@michelangelolamargese7032 11 місяців тому
Could you do a serie about the italian wars?
@_resource-guy1878
@_resource-guy1878 11 місяців тому
Can you do a Lawrence of Arabia series, he has a really interesting background with great knowledge and ability
@hallamhal
@hallamhal 11 місяців тому
If you're covering Egyptology, is a video on The Great Belzoni on the cards?
@mattiemathis9549
@mattiemathis9549 4 дні тому
Great video! I’ve heard of the Rosetta Stone but I thought it was something like a “Batman decoder” made out of rocks. I do realize how stupid that sounds now, but that is why content like this is so important. Thanks!
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu 11 місяців тому
5:50 Japanese is not entirely logographic like Chinese. Kanji is Logographic, like how our symbols like emojis or the number "3," or most of the Chinese language. But kana, like Hiragana is a syllabary. It's not an alphabet but it is a phonetic script.
@remoosecode7558
@remoosecode7558 11 місяців тому
We get it bro, you watch anime.
@hjalmarrosen3681
@hjalmarrosen3681 11 місяців тому
This was way more interesting than the story of Napoleon in Egypt.
@Nyst2
@Nyst2 11 місяців тому
I wonder what the Egyptian reaction to his visit was. There arrived a man from far away who could read a language no-one in your own country, not even your scholars, could read for centuries. Could you imagine? If a stranger arrived in your home state, being able to solve an ancient mystery that none of you could?
@Darkgun231
@Darkgun231 11 місяців тому
Awed but miffed would be my assumption.
@joshuanishanthchristian5217
@joshuanishanthchristian5217 11 місяців тому
@@Darkgun231 Apparently they gifted him, and France in general, an obelisk
@KH-wm5yi
@KH-wm5yi 11 місяців тому
this is simply not true. plenty of egyptian priests used to and still speak coptic and he in fact inlisted their help to translate but their story isnt included because it isnt useful to the narrative
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 11 місяців тому
​@@KH-wm5yi Coptic priests still couldn't read hieroglyphics tho.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 11 місяців тому
Foreign scholars arriving in Minsk and uncovering the Belarusian language to few surviving locals, 2100, colorized.
@KensanOni
@KensanOni 11 місяців тому
This is the Natural Followup to the Nepolians invasion of Egypt. This is great.
@marygraceredfield2702
@marygraceredfield2702 10 місяців тому
I've seen the R. Stone in person. It's a cool large artifact. Can't believe the French hauled it all over Egypt!
@jointhearumanati8574
@jointhearumanati8574 3 місяці тому
You know making the discovery of the century running to your siblings house and fainting is honestly not an overreaction like mood
@YuzuruHakushaku
@YuzuruHakushaku 11 місяців тому
let me tell you how ancient Persian, Emilite and Babylonian decoded: after Napoleon went back to France and after that called his men in Iran which were there as the first teachers of modern army in Iran, British came and revisited ancient Persian lands. in 1802 Georg Friedrich Grotefend realized there are so many repeated words, he said since these texts are Persian and Persian monarchs in their declarations always say I am king of kings of Iran, I am (a name) son of (a name) with all titles so maybe it is same for ancient times, he also said since by Greeks we know Bistun for example made by Darius the great so the name should be him and we know his father's name and his father's. but Georg did a mistake, he used the Western pronunciations. until Henry Rawlinson came, he wished to see Ancient Persia so listed in British army (in fact east Indian company) and came to India, he fled to Iran and when arrived to Bistun, an inscription about how Darius was victorious vs rebellions... in three languages, Persian, Emilite and Babylonian. so Henry hanged himself from the mountain and wrote all of it in 1835. and he decoded all of those three plus since Assyrian inscriptions have two languages as well (with Babylonian) he decoded that one as well, so all hail to SIR HENRY RAWLINSON 1th.
@shylockwesker5530
@shylockwesker5530 11 місяців тому
How did Champollion know Coptic having never been to Egypt?
@MrLantean
@MrLantean 3 місяці тому
Champollion is able to make an acquittance with a former Coptic priest of Syrian descent by the name of Anton Zakhūr Rafa'il or Raphaël de Monachis as he is known in France. Raphaël de Monachis teaches colloquial Arabic and Coptic languages at Grenoble and Champollion is one of the students attending his classes. Champollion is able connect the relation between Ancient Egyptian hieroglyph with Coptic language which is the key for deciphering them.
@Nolaris3
@Nolaris3 11 місяців тому
6:58 This Italian strongman (a.k.a. The Great Belzoni) probably deserves his own episode
@katherinec2759
@katherinec2759 11 місяців тому
I found your channel about 2 years ago, and my family has enjoyed it ever since. Keep up the good work! One thing, though, can you please stop making the intro/title so much louder than the rest of the episode? It's very abrupt on both the history and mythology videos. Some of my family members have very sensitive ears, and it's making it hard to watch.
@EllpaFox47
@EllpaFox47 11 місяців тому
“I also can’t eat the Rosetta Stone” Well you’re just not trying hard enough Matt!
@bluryfilms
@bluryfilms 8 місяців тому
Amazing to think something that was done as just a nice gesture with probably no real plan for the future beyond their own lifespans would have such a profound effect 2 millenia later
@ehssanmohamed1887
@ehssanmohamed1887 11 місяців тому
good history
@creatoruser736
@creatoruser736 11 місяців тому
Weird seeing you combine the high and low quality animation in one episode.
@ehssanmohamed1887
@ehssanmohamed1887 11 місяців тому
good video
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