I appreciate Stacey's comment at the end where she said "this story transcends the church. Look to Hollywood, etc." That this is not just a problem that is in the church, but is in our culture at large. This story just happens to take place in a church, but this documentary is not trying to be a take-down of the church. As a Christian, I appreciate that approach to documenting this story. In general as a culture we need to stop elevating flawed people to a position of celebrity, no matter what organization they are part of.

Intriguing, i always knew there was more to life and i have also been looking for a way to find not only protection but a way to be influential to the human society..

This documentary was very well done. Much better than the other one that came out. Carl seems to have changed though time will tell of course. I still think he was ousted the way he was because they were afraid he would start his own church. I mean nobody was as big as he was a few years back. He was everywhere! I wish him well. As a churchgoer at a huge mega church in Charlotte, NC this documentary sheds light on what makes these churches tick.

I was in Hillsong Church in the North West of Sydney before Carl Lentz even came on the scene. The Worship leader, Darlene Zschech, is the one who made Hillsong Church Internationally big. Churches began to do Praise and Worship in a similar style to Darlene and her team of Worship Singers and Writers. Hardly anyone in Australia was talking about Carl. It is only the Americans and the American documentaries that have made Carl larger than life. Carl was never the main star. He rarely ever preached in Australia. We rarely even talked about Him. We rarely gave him a thought. All these Documentaries trying to make out that Carl was the one who really made Hillsong big is just plain false !!

It takes a whole team of people to make any church what it is, it's never just one person. Everyone has to take accountability for their own actions (eg you choose to do something wrong) and yes the church should check in to see how others are doing too. Like any organisation or workplace you are going to get a mix of people, never forget there are still really nice and genuine people out there in the world, including in Hillsong, it would be naive to say there isn't. To be honest when we think of a church it shouldn't be because of any single person, we should be seeing it as the church of God period, it belongs to him and him alone and within the church of God are his people. Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship. Also we all make mistakes whether big or small and somehow we have to reconcile with that to ourselves and others, we have to heal and move on. I think we have to remember that when people preach it's not about them, so no matter what a person has done we can still find truth in what they have said because it was never about them in the first place, people come and go but the word of God remains.

This is what happens when you idolize. 🙏🏽🌎🇪🇨

Excited to react to this series. 9:07 I appreciate your honesty that you have an agenda with this. There are times where you clearly had an axe to grind with Christianity as a whole. And Hillsong definitely was a hypothetical mess.

The Bible was written by people that MESSED UP big time. Peter, denied The Lord after spending 3 years with Him! David committed adultery, Etc. Jesus is a redeemer. Sin has consequences, something deadly, but God is merciful God, AND HE WILL NEVER LET YOU DOWN! Do not put your faith in a pastor, nor a church

Excellent! I want to see this documentary. As one who used to be very active in the Evangelical world I know she is right... the church is no different than a corporation with sleazy politics and power plays... cruelty and abuse by the "corporate" officers who call themselves pastors... but...because they say they are God's people, they are more powerful and their victims are far more devastated by the disallusionment they experience when they realize they have been used and abused.

Excellent documentary! Great to see how the grace of God saved Carl's marriage. The documentary really opened my eyes to the organization of the church

That’s exactly it , when you idol someone or anything other than God, you mess up. True leaders turn the mirror around on themselves, keeps them humble, kind and relatable . Pride comes before the fall .

that last phrase... totally on point.

Humiliating but it is a public 5th step & very cathartic. Picture being a Rock Star in any arena. ❤

So many churches like this one we just left one like this. It’s not God but people💔

I’m curious to see the parallels between this and the Mars Hill doc

The only people this was shocking to were the ones who needed or wanted to believe he was authentic...it was more than obvious to people outside the church he was about money, fame, and power.

It's always easy to point out mistakes people have made. I'm not defending or justifying him at all. I simply believe that we often are quick to judge as if we're perfect and we've never made mistakes. If people really knew all our hidden sins, they'd be turned away. Even in the Bible, all of these huge followers of God had their faults and made big mistakes. The only perfect one is Jesus and that's the ONLY one we should keep our eyes on.

God allways forgives, but never takes away the consequences of sin. That`s on you and hopefully you will learn your lesson.

I know heaps of people that attend Hillsong that love their God and church and who volunteer

We must not elevate men…but Christ. If a man takes the praise and believes it…it will destroy him…for it was never meant FOR him. Praise and worship was meant for God.

I think this documentary is subjective with only 60 sources compared to a large church congregation. the church is not a collection of saints, all churches have dark stories because they were built by a group of people, it cannot necessarily that church people will be fine with their lives because we still live in a world where sin cannot be avoided. but what can build a church is because of faith and forgiveness. God has loved us long before we knew him, because we live in grace. I hope all those who are hurt are able to find their way with God and find peace in forgiveness.

Where cna i find the doc

Thankful he came forward and was honest (I hope 🙏) keep your head and heart up Carl ❤❤❤

I am actually shocked by how broken he seems

It seemed as if to me that Carl really stepped out of the “Church Carl Lentz” and stepped out into the real Carl Lentz of just who he is. I personally believed that he came across as more humanized than previously. I also really appreciated Laura’s story and the negative impact it had on her and her relationship with God. I’d be very curious to know how Carl felt that everything was portrayed and if he really got out what he wanted and needed to say, now that he’s not under the Hillsong NDA.

Where is this documentary?

I feel people put so much into religion and people in the church. Instead of having a true real relationship with God. Learning the word for yourself and understanding it.

How can we watch it?

The Bible clearly tells us to have discernment about these kinds of things don’t get caught up in the man! But serve God with your whole heart the truth will set you free!!!🙏🙏🙏 you will know them by their fruit🙋‍♀️

I think that we should pray for Carl Lentz to a real relationship with Christ.

This is a reason you have to have a relationship with Jesus and know him for yourself outside of the walls of the church building and people because man fail. The beautiful thing is that God never does if you know him for yourself.

How does anybody know if somebody's crying for real, so now you can't even cry without being put down, oh brother

Hillsong was always popular. When Carl came on the scene , I was like 16 and he would come to our youth conferences and because his hair was so long he gave off the Jesus vibes. Carl Lentz didn’t make hillsong but he did make hillsong apart of “pop” culture.

Some people dont understand industry whistleblowers.

Carl blessed everyone in church. He is so gifted at changing lives.Thank you God for Carl. Thank you Carl for saving our lives!

The saddest part about this whole documentary is that the people were so focused on Carl and the church - so focused on a MAN, instead of being focused on Jesus and His word. They looked to be appeased by a man instead of seeking out what Christ wanted for them. They joined this church without asking God if that's where they should be. They focused on what these "white men" believed instead of what God has already said and established. God is God and the Bible is the Bible regardless of what a church/pastor says or believes. The one lady who said "Christianity is always behind" - man, what a sad statement. These people aren't looking for truth in Jesus, they are looking for a "church" that will affirm how they want to live with a little bit of Jesus on the side.

What people need to realize is that just because you go to church or hold a leadership position in church doesn’t mean that you turn in your human card. We are all human and capable of falling. I’m not excusing what he did, but if people can forgive a celebrity or a politician of infidelity then they can forgive a pastor

Dude messed the bag up. He had it. Church is a business and business was booming

An attempt for "The Redemption of Carl Lentz" He was human with all its failures, love him, hate him; the world loves its own.

Erinnert mich an die Mega Gemeinde ich Stuttgart -

You can't contextualize performance for a narcissist. They live it. Every. Moment. Dangerously close. To actual humans.

Hellsong by Spotlight is an interesting watch

Oh It's breaking my heart to read that : this guy or that lady who made this church famous.

It is quite possible that God is "allowing" these things to happen in the church in order to draw out His true people. I say this, because true Christians-- those who are really His -- will have their eyes and ears opened to the truth (because God gives them a love for His truth) and will separate themself from these false teachers. God can, and does, use everything for His own purpose and glory -- even the sins of others serve His purposes. There are those who are merely appalled at the sins of others, and there are those who heed it as a warning...and there's a big difference between these two!!

He was given a second chance and I hope he does not blow it with his family for fame and fortune🙏

Hey, we all fall…Carl is just a man. God Bless him

As a Christian it’s telling to me that the least judgemental / condemning person is a non christian. Hmmm

3:40 - Incredible performer not preacher 9:50 - Look to Hollywood, Look to politics, it's a human problem

What is with the change of appearance and the tugging of the hair is it trying to say I look different so am different.

This guy Carl was made the big deal cuz of Justin. That is the only reason he ever become known nationwide

I watched it & I pray GOD will RESTORE & people know JESUS more than what they see on the stage

Sad that there wasn't enough voices to steer this ship to safety!

He violated the biblical standards to continue ministry. He shouldn’t be allowed to pastor. Just get a job somewhere else

Carl is a spirit filled Christian who has a relationship with Jesus. I only seen him preach once but only the Holy Spirit could have inspired the message he spoke. Ok he fallen. Read the Bible. Many men of the Bible had fallen short yet had a profound influence on bringing people; sinners to the kingdom of God. Only we put value on sin & judge a man. God shows mercy & forgives. The devil works overtime to trap pastors into doing his work. A righteousness man will fall 7 times but will get up.

Just a few things which aren’t entirely correct.. Carls issue was not a catalyst to exposing certain things. These were common knowledge for many years. It was never the church of Brian Houston or Carl Lentz, but the Church of Jesus Christ. Celebrity and Pastor should not even be in the same sentence..

You hear about so many Pastor liking the world as they say.... Justin Bieber and Puff Ditty pastors. They don't think that there actions would bring so much pain to other's. Sad😮

Ppl needs to stop idiolizing men since theyre normal human beings , God is not religion or someone who remembers the beautiful bible and performs a character , we as human beings can make mistakes , so i belive men who work as pastors should forget aboyt themselves as the focus of a beautiful projevr theyre not a celebrity, if you see a pastor way to care for his looks and more like a rockstar theres so much ego, vanity , because theyre not putting God's first, tmit feels like there kind of using him for theyre own selfish dark purposes and this shows ppl is so easy to deceive .

There are so many "Hillsong affiliates" globally, ESPECIALLY around the United States. I was apart of the congregation of the local branch here in Texas for less than a year. I experienced firsthand the "celebrity pastor" along with "cult-like" stigma and afterwards I was VERY turned off by Christian churches ESPECIALLY nowadays. It's ALWAYS a "Christian rally" and people there were more into taking photos "for the 'Gram" while making it into a "fashion show." It's like "high school" because it's so "clickish" and was NOT welcoming to the less fortunate.

Wealth and fame can be poisonous to someone with deep problems. It seems like carls got his life back together.

I just saw this documentary last night and as a Believer, I was sad, triggered, shocked, and not shocked! I prayed and thanked G-d that my relationship with Him is not dependent on man. These leaders were motivated by pride, power, greed, and lust! I know wonder if Brian Houston’s son’s Frank and Joel are repeating the sins of their father and grandfather father. It is dangerous when someone convinces themselves that the truth is a lie and the lie is the truth! Carl was absolutely in the wrong which he admitted and I feel for his wife, children, and family because they were a causality of his actions. I do believe that the women he had affairs with were consensual in having sex with him and it was disgusting to see them act like they were victims (it is hard to heal when their is no ownership or accountability). I am glad he took ownership and that he appears to be living a life of recovery and redemption. I am praying for him, his family, his former staff and members of the church. I hope they all heal! With that said, it was clear that he was treated like a scapegoat and the leadership at Hillsong handled this and so many situations wrong and what appears to be in many cases illegally. The Houston’s acting like the victims was very arrogant and hypocritical at minimum. I hate when people blame the devil or their “enemies” but they don’t take ownership for their actions (both in private and in public). It would be one thing if people made up lies against them, it is another thing when one lies and tries to conceal the truth. I have have seen and experienced things in Church that I could have easily changed places with people sharing their experiences on this doc. When you are in the midst of seeking help or blowing the whistle your are often mistreated, gaslit, and rejected. Although my faith in G-d is very strong I haven’t been a member of or attended church in years and I don’t see that changing in the future. I don’t watch “Christian” TV, ministers, and it is hard to listen to the music and watch films that I know are made by people that social stances are detrimental to lives of countless others. Specifically, seeing how theses individuals and institutions handle children abuse and sexual assault was sickening while abusers and their enablers continued obtaining power and popularity because of their privilege! Sadly, so much of the abuse has and continues to happen in ministries, churches, and denominations worldwide because people haven’t changed nor have they been held accountable!

He should have just been a Hollywood actor

Carl Lentz was for immediately upon discovery… they did their job and followed and upheld righteousness. Period.

Carl was always a motivational speaker glad he's fired

People put people on pedestals. They become mighty in their own eyes. Then God removes the pedestal and great is their fall.

A pastor at my old church loves Carl Lentz and Steven Furtick. He went to elevation church (with church money of course) and came back quoting him and got his hair cut all cool and started wearing Trendy clothes. 😅

He benefitted and now he is talking after he fall in his sins. That is so strange 🤔. When you fall in sins, the church have to discipline you.

I don’t think he was a huge superstar, he was just a weird hotdog that was a product of purity culture that got married to young woman that was encouraged by hillsong so he could become a pastor at a young age. He was too young to be put in that position and he couldn’t handle it! I don’t feel sorry for Carl lenz. I feel bad for the women and boys that were victimized by folks at hillsong!

GOD gave the holy commandments, to the hebrew nation and through the holy prophet Moses! ...the new testament saids Jesus studied the torah and tanakh amongst the Jewish leaders! ...Jesus was Jewish! So those who want others to take them serious, then why not learn judiasm as Jesus studied?

The speck in his eye or the plank in mine. Not one . Not one of you is innocent. He will save even one in his testimony! Pray for you! Lead don’t stop leading

These pastors and evangelists are the very same evil that they preach about. They know that heaven or God you believe in can’t do anything against them. They use ignorance and fear in God to abuse their power over you. Your need to be saved and validated by someone you think has authority over you what makes you vulnerable to these predators.

Jesus Christ is Lord

Not sure why that place is even called a church, I would best say they are motivational gatherings. Feel good music, feel good sermons, there's no Christ in this. Everyone's to busy with their titles and who made what.

GOD does not need colour light,loud music,an nice speaker ,He’s GOD the one an only amen all these people who run these businesses are in for a shock,depart from me I new you not are words that come to mind when I see these church businesses leaders ,scary thing to full in to the hands of the living GOD,read Acts ch 2 v 38 ,Mark ch 16 v 15 to the end of chapter this will see you right trust GOD an HIS word the bible,you can’t go wrong listening to his word not someone speaking .

He's still spinning. Watch this to see DARVO at work.

I don't know why their making this particular pastors moral failure a big blow up there are millions of pastors who had affairs famous pastors who have had secrets and were not blowing those up

I heard no God mentioned in this interview, all I hear is production, the music, what happened to Carl

Why did the nanny spend so much time with the Lentz family when she had her own husband and child in Boston. Her husband was a Hillsong pastor in Boston. What kind is unhealthy relationship was this and why was it allowed?

When cigar clubs and nda's collide with bravery and the bigger picture, kavanah, trump, tate, spears, katie holmes, depp, assange, snowden etc.

The fact that he even gives interviews show you the type of person he is. Focus on God, move on and have a normal job…. Trying to get back in the money game

Carl did not make Hillsong famous, know this and know peace. Darlene was the one.

Keep in mind that was another famous preacher who was very charismatic and said controversial things and grew a very large following in a matter of a few years… he was so controversial that they crucified him. Of course I’m speaking of Jesus. By no means at I saying Carl like Jesus in terms of righteousness or holiness or whatever I’m Just saying here we are 2000 years later and still judge people simply because of charisma and fame… and of course we shouldn’t do that.

The danger of any Church denomination that becomes a global empire business, the lens significantly changes.

3:45. Incredible performer. Mmmmm hmmmmmm.

I allmost feel sorry for him... This whole hillsong imperium was never about Yahouah

Or not

It's sad how we triumph in downfall.

He's a con man of course he made you feel like he had been hurt by that church.

Please Carl and Laura come back!!!!

Carl still a cool dude tho🌱 he’s a man of God but just as the rest of us we make bad decisions and mistakes… you know going to the store and accidentally forgetting your wallet is a mistake, but decision is know “ I shouldn’t do this but I’m gonna do it” theirs a difference. At the end of the day drugs don’t make someone a bad person but it means they just make bad decisions

Pretty funny that Jack Daniels has a hand I this. Or aprapo

Ohhhh wowwww TARZAN is a christian pastor????🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What's up with that little thing he's doing with his hair? It's creepy

Forgive the guy...he's working on himself and fighting for his family b

You don’t go to church to worship the church … you go to worship God; of course fall out will happen when you do the opposite

No one cares

When Carl wears the 70s glasses, he looks like a serial killer

It’s just about damage control know he’s going to be in Michael Todd’s church oh yeah he’s deep in the lord

Blessed are the rich. Blessed are the 'haat'. Is what that idol of hypocrisy Jesus SHOULD have said.

Fruitcake

Carl needs to be real with God and give up the fame ego train