THE SHINING Ending Explained: The Final Shot's TRUE Meaning
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9 місяців томуTHE SHINING Ending Explained: The Final Shot's TRUE Meaning. In this video, we will break down the final shot of an all-time classic movie, The Shining. We will be going through all the details within the scene that make this such a poignant image that has stuck with so many people since seeing the movie. In such a chilling and mind-bending movie with so many hidden layers to the film, we're gonna be breaking down all the possibilities surrounding that photograph and the repeating cycle of the torment of the Overlook Hotel. Starring Jack Nicholson in one of his most iconic performances in this Stephen King novel adaption from director Stanley Kubrick, what more could you ask for!! There is a lot to get through so let's get right into it!
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Welcome back to the Overlook Hotel I'm your host Paul and this video we're breaking down the ending of the Shining. After our initial breakdown on the film hit the one million view mark I thought I'd return to one of my favourite finals to discuss it's final shot in detail. Throughout this video we'll be going over what it really means, all the theories behind it and hopefully finally giving some closure to the movies final shot.
Now this is something that has had people scratching their heads for the best part of 4 decades. Incase you don't know the book takes place in the year 1975 with the 1980 film taking place roughly around the same time. It follows the Torrance family as they move into the overlook hotel to act as caretakers over the winter.
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@heavyspoilers 9 місяців тому
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@stevenmazey3976 9 місяців тому
Are you going to do Dr sleep?
@timcogan82 9 місяців тому
Please do more Kubrick stuff. I would love to see a take on Eyes Wide Shut.
@paulchomiak1318 9 місяців тому
You missed the two Jacks in the lobby in the beginning.. The one Jack and his family being shown the Hotel, and the red jacket (future) Jack in the background cleaning a piece of furniture.. It's when Wendy says "I've never seen anything like this before." He is behind her in the shot.. Watch an HD version of the movie, it's the same Red Jacket Jack takes to wearing when he is replaced by the ghost/entity. There is a book about the film and what Kubrick hid in the film, like the foreshadowing of the bat in the lobby, etc.. Cheers..
@MzuMzu-nx1em 9 місяців тому
This is Zen . To catch with zen, reduce logic and search for patterns to follow
@bobbylee_ 9 місяців тому
@@paulchomiak1318The two Jack’s is a theory. A subjective interpretation. It’s not established fact.
@phantom_troubadour 9 місяців тому
“You were always the caretaker” is the hotel speaking to Jack’s internal evil, because “evil” has always been the caretaker. Once Jack accepts this subtle proposition, the deed is done.
@geraldthebusdriver3491 8 місяців тому
That’s just so scary to think about that adding on to that Once he became “caretaker” the hotel just swallowed him slowly and patiently like a cunning and sly animal and at the end it succeeded
@e8iMm7KE999 6 місяців тому
That possibly explains why the names of Grady didn't exactly match. Evil tricks you into thinking that you have no choice and that you have to give in. Kubrick giving names that don't exactly match indicates that Jack actually had a free will to reject becoming the care taker.
@Dr.Frankensteen 6 місяців тому
Just made a similar comment. Evil always reincarnates itself and isn't beholden to society. Society can keep us reigned in. This is why the date "July 4th" is important. The year is just a smoke screen, evil is independent of social responsibility. When evil takes over, we are "free" in a way because we no longer curb our urges.
@hermanhale9258 16 днів тому
The twins wanted Danny to be the new caretaker.
@thegasmaskguy2302 9 місяців тому
I always thought that the ending with the picture meant that Jack Torrents had become fully consumed by the hotel, and everybody else in the photo were also consumed by the hotel. That the “caretaker” and his family were sacrifices to something far more ancient than the hotel too. Idk that was my thought when I was a little kid.
@nancytestani1470 9 місяців тому
Yep, me tooo..and I will stick to it…
@jenniferstewart6019 8 місяців тому
Me too
@jdredd8152 8 місяців тому
That explanation works for me.
@paranoyd70 8 місяців тому
That's my conclusion as well. Also, I believe that it was also the Director's (Stanley Kubrick) message that people will do evil things just to be part of the club. We see this all the time. And Kubrick was a firm believer that there were (are) evil people that belong to evil clubs. This theme is hinted at in numerous of his films, especially the movie, "Eyes Wide Shut." Also, the pose of Jack in the hotel picture is very similar to an old painting of a demon (devil) which is posed with the right hand raised & the left hand pointing down, just like the photo in the movie.
@sharonrojas9569 8 місяців тому
I believe that is exactly what the photo at the end of the movie suggested. The Overlook was clearly a soul trap.
@DuwayneMurrelldebajanclasher 9 місяців тому
As for the photo at the end I always just saw it as after the overlook hotel claims a soul it adds it to the photo. Hence why Jack appears in it at the end. I do not think it is more complicated as that
@CharlesDickens111 9 місяців тому
Could be - but the ghost of Grady, the previous caretaker, says Jack was "always" the caretaker. Of course, that could just be a figment of his warped mind telling himself that.
@bryede 9 місяців тому
@@CharlesDickens111 Unless the 'caretaker' is viewed as a spiritual character unto itself. So, perhaps he's not talking directly to Jack with that reference.
@darthbigred22 9 місяців тому
@@CharlesDickens111 OK western history past Constantine 101: In a story when someone says they'd sell their G-ding for a glass of beer and suddenly out of no where a bar tender appears you have a what's called "Faustian bargain". The bar tender is likely the Devil or an agent of the forces of Hell. This isn't that complicated and the addition to the photo is Hell bragging them claimed another soul as the mansion is haunted with evil anyways. Not complicated even if King doesn't believe he still knows the tropes.
@buzzsawgr81 9 місяців тому
this is pretty much how I've always seen it as well.
@buzzsawgr81 9 місяців тому
@@CharlesDickens111 it could just be the hotel telling jack stuff like that to further break down his mind so he can be more easily controlled.
@daisyblossomflowerchild9702 9 місяців тому
Nicholson's performance terrified me in this movie. He really sold the fall into madness so perfectly. His facial expression at the end in the hedge maze, frozen with a maniacal grin, is nightmare fuel. Really nice exploration of not only the ending but points throughout the movie leading to the final shot. Cheers! :)
@anthonydileonardo8156 7 місяців тому
the only time I thought Nicholson was truly scary was when he stalked Wendy up the stairs screaming about his obligations to his employers and the hotel....no wicked grin.....just a man on the edge losing it quickly
@asadabdulqaabir4006 7 місяців тому
Fall into madness? 🤣🤣🤣 He was totally in wako mode since the job interview.
@deanfowles3707 4 місяці тому
I dunno, Jack has a funny face, perfect for the joker. He isn’t scary though. Grady, now that’s a scary and intimidating face.
@katakurifan5213 3 місяці тому
Always makes me laugh
@MiniGamerDusty 9 місяців тому
The ending of the Shining clicked for me when I watched Dr. Sleep and the name, "True Knot" was mentioned. Jack isn't in a loop, but a knot. Lots of things are repeated, but like a knot that gets tight, things get worse as they are repeated. Jack typing, the twins, reenacting the ax murders, the carpet pattern... even Danny's trike ride, it's all a knot wrapping around itself, ultimately choking itself. The harder you fight, the tighter the knot gets.
@A330-9 8 місяців тому
You just changed my perception of dr sleep
@timandshannon03 7 місяців тому
Same
@tomservo5347 8 місяців тому
Also, Jack's pose in the photo is just like Baphomet-pointing up and down. The fact that he walks completely unperturbed into the Gold Room in a seeming time slip tells me he in fact was always there; his essence is just rejoined with itself as he slowly goes mad. We think of time as linear, but what if it's a circle at the Overlook? I also think the cook Hallorann used his 'shining' ability to hold the evil at bay-look what happens when he leaves. Also the way Jack consistently breaks the fourth wall throughout the movie, I think it's Kubrick's way of showing the view of whatever living entity controls the Overlook that Jack sees because of his ability.
@JimmyGray-ds6gc 8 місяців тому
He doesn't break the fourth wall once. What are you talking about? He talks to the hotel but doesn't talk to the audience. Ii don't think you understand the "fourth wall concept. Here's a definition.The fourth wall is a performance convention in which an invisible, imaginary wall separates actors from the audience. While the audience can see through this "wall", the actors act as if they cannot.0 The term originated in the theater, where the four walls enclose the stage while an invisible "fourth wall" is left out for the sake of the viewer.2 In movies, TV shows, and plays, the fourth wall is the imaginary plane that marks the "edge" of the onstage action.existence of the audience.1 Breaking the fourth wall often means having a character become aware of their fictional nature.
@Boo675jhggg 3 місяці тому
The Overlook is something that can't be solved by mere people or even logic. When something happens they looks for a rational explanation. In the book it explains that when he attacked the student he blacked out. He couldn't remember it afterwards. Drunk or sober, he can't solve the puzzle.
@dominikrust6294 9 місяців тому
I always thought that there is an evil presence that always consumes the caretaker and always makes them kill their families (this entity has always been the caretaker). And after they die their ghost becomes part of the hotel and is destined to haunt future caretakers. Jack would be a part of the ball for a future caretaker just like Grady was for him.
@TA-vi6tn 8 місяців тому
Exactly what I think. the hotel was solidifying the fact that Jack was gone and he was the care taker now. The photo is proof of his absorption and the power the evil has to come through any logic like it's able to break our rules of time. It's proof that he was mad bc it doesn't have the need to make sense it does how it pleases
@sharonrojas9569 8 місяців тому
The hotel itself was the EVIL presence to me.
@Captain-Cosmo 8 місяців тому
When Jack "attends" the party in the ballroom, it is the 1920s, just as in the photo. Jack must have stared into those photos many times, imagining himself there, among the rich and happy. Of course, Jack is delusional. If we presume that he's "dancing" to the songs of an orchestra that isn't really there (we're seeing what he's seeing, NOT was is real), then it's logical that what we're seeing in the photo isn't literal, either, but just what he must have always imagined. After all, would the caretaker of the hotel really be front and center in a black tie at the 4th of July ball? No. Jack loved the opulence of the Overlook, the feeling of being important, and the freedom from having to take care of his wife and his child. Wendy brought in breakfast in bed, just like room service. His credit was good. He was somebody. Anything that sought to take away his fantasy was a threat. The "real ghosts" were in his own head.
@dominikrust6294 8 місяців тому
@@Captain-Cosmo nice interpretation. I never looked at it that way.
@jimpatrick5918 9 місяців тому
Simpler theory: Jack is in the photo because he is now one of the ghosts of The Overlook. All the ghosts there are outside of Time as we know it. To them Jack has always been there. To them he has always been the caretaker.
@scottmcguirk4848 8 місяців тому
I was thinking the same. With the theory time is an illusion and the future can effect the past, it kind of works. Even the narrator’s view of reincarnation works as ripples of the same person. Basically outside of time effecting 1970s and 1920s. It’s depressing because past, present, future the guy is doomed with a predetermined fate. Nature allows change so that would be the hope outside of the horror movie.
@Captain-Cosmo 8 місяців тому
Even simpler: we're only seeing the photo as Jack must have imagined many times. Off-season caretakers has little place being front and center and black tie July 4 ballroom parties among the super wealthy.
@kianim8344 5 місяців тому
@@Captain-Cosmoplease don’t turn it into another unbearable “Lost” theory making it the everything the protagonist’s imagination
@Captain-Cosmo 5 місяців тому
@@kianim8344 You're missing the very point of the story: whether the ghosts were real or not, Jack was definitely going insane and was delusional. Consider, too, that (among other things) Wendy - whom is never considered to have the ability to "shine" - experiences a vision of the "bloody elevators", which we, the audience knows never to actually occur. This, alone, should cause us not to trust what we see. And how is that "Lloyd" and all of the alcohol just suddenly disappears when Wendy runs into the Gold Room without alarming Jack? I think Kubrick followed one simple rule: Don't show anything happening that cannot be explained more easily by non-supernatural means. All four characters - Jack, Wendy, Danny, and Halloran - are each predisposed to irrational thinking: Jack has delusions of grandeur and importance, Wendy harbors delusions that Jack is not the abuser that he really is, Danny copes with the abuse by inventing "Tony", the "little boy who lives in my mouth", and Halloran holds the idea that his grandmother taught him as a little boy that he could communicate with psychic powers. Their respective delusions are also evident: Jack is not really rich and important, Wendy is clearly in denial, Danny has no special powers, and Halloran seems only capable of correctly guessing that a little boy might want ice cream without any further evidence of being able to "talk without opening [his] mouth". Does the reality that there are no supernatural occurrences in the Overlook (film version) diminish it's effectiveness as a film? No. Indeed, it may even be more terrifying when one experiences delusional horrors without know that they are, in fact, delusions. The comparison to "Lost" is, which came out considerably after Kubrick's film, is without merit. Viewers were left dissatisfied with what they believed was a poorly executed "post hoc" explanation. (The Star Wars sequels frustratingly demonstrated that Abrams is willing to make up the story as he goes.)
@Boo675jhggg 3 місяці тому
In the book he is going mad but basically he doesn't accept the supernatural, so he fights the world with rationality.
@jordansmith2647 9 місяців тому
the ambiguity of the story is part of the horror, the movie stays true to how older books leave things open to interpretation...great movie
@vectorfox4782 8 місяців тому
Perfectly said
@yetanotheruser1989 5 місяців тому
Yes, the movie seemingly explains so much, yet doesn't truly reveal in closure. It's so open to interpretation, which makes it so unsettling.
@shawnkalin9337 3 місяці тому
I agree. It should stand on its own in a dream-like mystery, high on a snow covered mountain. Never to be unraveled. I think this was Kubrick's intention.
@emptor01 8 місяців тому
The book felt clearer to me. In the book the hotel was an entity in itself and it needed 'fuel'. That fuel came in the form of people with 'the shine'. Like the kid. The hotel keeps trying to convince Jack to kill his son because the hotel wants his really big supply of psychic fuel. Jack may have had a little but the kid has it in overflow. In the book the hotel explodes because Jack forgot to dump the boiler and he is killed when it explodes.
@jamybailey 6 місяців тому
Ty! This is so helpful! Just watched it for the first time and was confused
@guibox3 6 місяців тому
Yes. The problem with Kubrick's film is that it misrepresents how the hotel and the Shining were connected. You can tell by the comments which people have never read the story because all they talk about is 'Jack descending into madness', as if this was simply a movie about the effects of cabin fever and everything that happened was Jack's fevered imagination. The Overlook possessed Jack because they wanted Danny's shining ability. The movie is a great movie in and of itself but it is a horrible adaptation.
@StrongSinger 5 місяців тому
Yes exactly
@snowdroog1 4 місяці тому
Yeah the book is far simpler to interpret
@Boo675jhggg 3 місяці тому
Yes and so spectacular when the boiler finally explodes. They couldn't replicate that on the silver screen.😅
@Captain-Cosmo 8 місяців тому
If we stay solely within the film - that is, we don't rely upon the books, behind the scenes statements, or the sequel film - then I think this film gives us everything we need to solve the mystery of the Overlook Hotel, whether intentional (by the director or the writer) or not. Our biggest clue is also the most "overlooked" (no pun): the ocean of blood at the elevators. It's really quite simple: despite what must be thousands of gallons of blood, there is no evidence afterwards that it really happened. This tells us that what we are seeing in THE SHINING is not literal. It's all in the minds of whoever we, the audience, are alongside at any given moment. It's basically each person's own madness, brought about by suggestion, fear, alcohol, or whatever. Did you notice that no two people witness any "ghosts" together? Danny sees the girls when he is alone. Jack sees the bartender, Grady, and the old/young woman when he is alone. Wendy sees the bloody elevators and the man in the bear costume when she is alone. All of them are having delusions, each in their own way. This also explains the inconsistencies, such as Grady's different names, the ages of the girls, the hedge maze, and the geography of the Overlook. We are seeing their perceptions, not the realities. When Jack arrives at the party in the ball room, it's the 1920s, not the 1980s. Why? Because that is what the photos on the wall show. (Note, too, that Wendy has been characterized by Jack early on as a "horror film buff", making her susceptible to the suggestion of ghosts.) The same can be true for the ending photograph. Jack has struggled to be what he wants to be: a financially successful writer. He loves the Overlook. He feels important there. He's a "real" writer there. His credit is good there. People know his name there. Music, dancing, beautiful women, dress balls. Wendy even serves him breakfast in bed, like "room service" every morning. He even tells Danny how great it would be to stay there "forever". When Wendy threatens his fantasy, he has to stop her. By destroying the radio. By disabling the snow cat. And, ultimately, by trying to kill her and Danny. (The conversation in the bathroom is just his insane way of rationalizing to himself what must be done.) Under this interpretation, the photo at the end is, also, not to be taken literally. We're just seeing what Jack must have fantasized about endlessly: being the life of the party among the rich and happy guests of the Overlook Hotel. I realize that this interpretation may seem more grounded that the more "supernatural"-based interpretations. And it may or may not be entirely what was envisioned by its makers. BUT, it doesn't require any more information that what is available in the film itself. And, in a real world, it's the more likely explanation.
@hellomate2405 6 місяців тому
Brilliantly written. This is one of the most probable explanations. Jack's mental deteriorating in the hotel. I can understand why he like it there. No worries of bills or work and lots of time, it's like from the first frame you know he's like a child trapped in a man's body.
@anirose6807 6 місяців тому
So many theories about the meaning of this movie and so few of them talk about Jack as a writer, his ego, his history being an alcoholic, his evidence of abuse (Wendy mentions him drunkenly dislocating his son’s shoulder in the beginning of the movie) and we see his descent into madness paralleled by his descent into alcoholism, throwing himself “into his work” so to speak, throwing himself rather into meaningless, ridiculous pursuits to make himself seem important (like you mentioned, his desire to feel like he is the life of the party, an artist, a creative, etc.) when in reality, he is destroying those around him due to his own internal feelings of disappointment in himself. He feels emasculated by his wife and he takes this out on her by belittling her. What better to encapsulate this feeling of self hatred than isolation. This is not just a film about the supernatural madness of an insane man killing his family. Kubrick touches on how financial burdens, masculinity, mental illness, alcoholism, abuse, and generational trauma are all interlinked. The man was arguably a difficultperson, but as a director he was so ahead of his time. You nailed perfectly what I feel like so many fail to see from the film and illuminated to me another side of the film I didn’t see before!!
@danielle1103 6 місяців тому
@@anirose6807after watching the movie today, I couldn’t agree more with you!! I’m really glad you mentioned intergenerational trauma too. It’s something that is very overlooked, but it’s real. A lot of difficult topics were touched on throughout this movie.
@danielle1103 6 місяців тому
I agree with your explanations!! So often the most simple answer is the actual answer.
@e8iMm7KE999 6 місяців тому
The explanation of the photo is definitely food for thought. I don't know if that what Stanley Kubrick intended, but it is possible explanation. I especially like the idea that Jack wanted to be the center of attention and the life of the party among the rich.
@dimitardimitrov5736 9 місяців тому
I don't understand how can so many people still be confused about the twins and think it's a mistake by Kubrik - there is no mistake. There are two Gradys. The 8you and 10yo are the daughters of Charles Grady, who was the caretaker in the early 1970s. Delbert Grady was from the earlier era 1916/1921 and the twins were his children.
@bustercolin7507 9 місяців тому
How is Charles and Delbert related
@krishnataveras8734 9 місяців тому
@@bustercolin7507 Charles is a reincarnation of Delbert
@bustercolin7507 9 місяців тому
@@krishnataveras8734 Gotcha
@JackDullBoy5 8 місяців тому
@@krishnataveras8734so does that mean Jack becomes ‘Jack Grady’? …… and why doesn’t Jack have twins? 🤔 Surly Jack is breaking an obvious pattern if your ‘theory’ is right.
@Maki-00 8 місяців тому
When Jack goes for the job, he is told by the manager that his PREDECESSOR killed his family, so that should make it obvious that Grady from the 1920s could not be the same person.
@tombrand236 9 місяців тому
This is one take - there are sooo many alternative theories about this film though. My take was Kubrick just wanted to make the whole fabric of the setting feel flaky and dreamlike. Like the whole structure of the hotel doesn’t make sense. Love there are so many twists though.
@xenonbolty8507 9 місяців тому
In the Dark Tower, King has characters that seem timeless. Like Danny who appears in more than one time line. Also, Roland who is seemingly not even bound by time. My theory is that the hotel can warp time and space. People at different places all at the same time.
@kmiller0402 9 місяців тому
Movie wasn’t based on the novel
@MomMom4Cubs 9 місяців тому
I think the Overlook is a level of the Tower, a place for the Man in Black to hide or a prestidigitation (of sorts) of the Crimson King, to misdirect Roland (or us).
@Idontcaremuch1000 8 місяців тому
I think the Overlook, Room 1408, and Rose Red Mansion are all feed off of the life force of those unfortunate enough to encounter them.
@watermelonlalala 5 місяців тому
Stanley Kubrick can warp time and space.
@Boo675jhggg 3 місяці тому
This is just one way that Stephen King plays with us, though. We don't really know if time is linear. Time could go in circles or there could be alternative dimensions. A particle can be in two places at the same time.😅
@doggedout 9 місяців тому
People analyzing The Shining should watch the movie "Burnt Offerings" (1976). Oliver Reed brings his family (including Betty Davis!) to take care of an old southern mansion with a mysterious, never seen women living in one of the upstairs bedrooms. As the old mansion tries to kill off members of the family one by one (while driving Reed's character nuts) it actually regenerates itself in the process of absorbing the souls of the family members. One great scene has the siding of the house actually falling off, like a snake skin, only to reveal new siding underneath. Instead of a hedge maze or topiary animals, it has a malevolent swimming pool (which actually looks a lot like the one in front of the Stanley Hotel in Colorado). It is pretty obvious Kubrick saw this movie (maybe even King did since the book predates his writing of The Shining) and kind of just combined it with the King novel whether consciously or not to create The Shining..who can say? ..but the similarities are so glaringly obvious, it should be mentioned whenever talking about The movie The Shining. Also, that pose Jack is adopting in the picture is Baphomet. ..and the guy in the original picture is an exact likeness of the actor Joel Grey except years before Grey was born. Which is pretty creepy when you think about it - realizing Kubrick would have noticed it as well.
@davidcavazos2270 9 місяців тому
That is a good flick! I need to rewatch it :)
@sharonroller8849 9 місяців тому
I loved that movie, ending scared me, Karen Black was great 😊
@rdred8693 2 місяці тому
Great movie!
@arkdark5554 8 місяців тому
This movie deserves to be given a masterpiece status. The book is also so damn good.
@johnwatts8346 8 місяців тому
it does that have that status, its a mega classic, its kubrick, ffs.
@arlichar11 8 місяців тому
its so close to masterpiece but has many flaws that if minor tweek would be there at that status
@johnwatts8346 8 місяців тому
@@arlichar11 wrong.
@arlichar11 8 місяців тому
@@johnwatts8346 why? im nearly obsessed with it i like it so much, but even for me its flawed in more than one way.. if u take it on face value its obviously well done , but it just has few things that would have made it even better..
@johnwatts8346 7 місяців тому
@@arlichar11 youre perfectly welcome to your opinion, but i disagree, i dont believe its flawed at all,
@IAmWBeard 9 місяців тому
I always thought those who die at the hotel are trapped at the hotel and appear in the picture
@dmartig1 9 місяців тому
That would be too logical for every Shining theory.
@trenttaylor6382 9 місяців тому
I think you’re right. Once the hotel claims a victim that it possesses it is able to show them in the picture.
@bobstranzenbach4700 4 місяці тому
I like your theory that the hotel can just change the photo like a ghostly photoshop
@Mr1Alex91 2 місяці тому
That’s alot of ppl to have died at one hotel though no?
@MarkThatNigga 2 місяці тому
@@Mr1Alex91that’s why it’s hunted, he was reincarnated as a ghost when he died. It’s very very simple.
@alexanderdumas- 9 місяців тому
Every time someone with the Shining sees an illusion it’s usually in a room full of mirrors which Kubric puts at such angle their reflection is just out of angle. The one time it’s shown is the woman in the room whose reflection he looks directly at and it breaks the illusion. Even Tony writes redrum which is murder mirrored. It’s almost as if whatever entities at work operate in a mirror dimension.
@roadkillz78 9 місяців тому
Excellent hypothesis, but the twins were not around any mirrors. Kubrick's deals with the mirrors was surmised that it was Jack, in his madness, talking to himself. I agree with the theory that Kubrick's story was not about ghosts or any entities, it was about a family going mad together. The hotel could have somehow "enhanced" their madness if Kubrick intended for the Shining aspect to be real.
@LobsterMobsterTheCrispiestLoaf 9 місяців тому
@roadkillz78 Agreed, couldn't have said it better myself!
@alexanderdumas- 9 місяців тому
@@roadkillz78 there are no mirrors with the twins yet the owner who interviews Jack says the girls are 8 and 10 yet they are twins in this scene or…. Mirror images of each other without a mirror. In my first post I should have used the word reflection, and these two girls could’ve seen as that completing the theme
@kianim8344 5 місяців тому
@@alexanderdumas-wow this was really nice and fresh take
@MartaWomack 8 місяців тому
All I know is this movie scared the crap outta me! I mean, 2 words, Jack Nicholson. A genius.
@lorrainemarino 8 місяців тому
It might be an interesting story to hear what happened to the 1921 version of Jack if you go with the reincarnation theory. It seems strange that both Delbert and Charles Grady both seemingly became violent and killed their families and we only heard about one of them from Ullman - and not the one that haunted Danny?
@JackDullBoy5 8 місяців тому
Yeh that’s exactly what I thought! It’s not a theory I go with but after reading another one of the comments he thought that each Grady was a reincarnation of the other and that they both existed at different times at the hotel and both killed their family but like you say only one was mentioned 🤔
@artmosley3337 8 місяців тому
I just said this could have been a series of movies… bet you a Dollar that Taylor Sheridan (wrote Yellowstone, 1883, 1923… this could have been the Best scary movies ever
@JackDullBoy5 8 місяців тому
@@artmosley3337 definitely 👌🏼 Even the history of the ‘Overlook Hotel’ would be a great film on its own.
@Captain-Cosmo 8 місяців тому
What if the photo is only showing us what Jack himself must have always longed for during the many moments he must have stared into those photos wishing himself to be the life of the party, rich and happy? This would support the very simple theory that nothing in the film is as it appears; the family each experiences their own delusions, and we're just along for the ride. By the way: why would the caretaker of the hotel be dressed in black tie and the literal front and center of the party? We can't trust the delusions of an overwrought alcoholic who hates his own life and longs to like among the rich and happy "forever".
@JackDullBoy5 8 місяців тому
@@Captain-Cosmo it’s crazy you say that about him being front and centre of the picture but only being the caretaker, thought exactly the same, he’d be more likely away sweeping up confetti 😂 and I always wondered why Delbert Grady was dressed as a butler and serving drinks if he was the caretaker too. You’re right nothing as it seems and as much is there’s a lot of hidden imagery and fantastic theories about the film they are completely subjective and detective work into what Kubrick was trying to say when in reality it’s more about what viewer takes from it. The fact that we all still obsess over the film and it’s meaning is testament to how great it actually is.
@jeanettewaverly2590 8 місяців тому
Nicholson is such a great and terrifying actor.
@DaNinja60 9 місяців тому
Still a timeless classic. So many interpretations but always good ones.
@No1ANTAGON1ST 9 місяців тому
I think Jack wasn't as strong with the Shining, so when he drank, it actually brought out his shine, whereas it subdued his son's.
@magnuskallas 9 місяців тому
I always thought the same. It is often told creative people often fall for vice, and are quite capable of killing their own "shine", and torturing people around them. Remember Bukowski's poem "Bluebird"? "There's a bluebird in my heart that... Wants to get out... But I pour whiskey on him and inhale... Cigarette smoke... And the whores and the bartenders"
@Mr_Case_Time 9 місяців тому
I’m glad that someone is finally making a UKposts video about this movie.
@evansfanily7510 9 місяців тому
lol look at rob ager
@madmax6487 2 місяці тому
One of the most over analysed films on UKposts. Lol
@TA-vi6tn 8 місяців тому
I always thought of it like this: the hotel tells him he was always the caretaker as if to say and solidify that he is not jack. That's part of the hotel making him lose himself and go crazy. He was the evil spirit entirely and was consumed already. The photo always made me feel that it was not supposed to make sense intentionally just to let us know that the power of this evil can break any rule of logic and do whatever it pleases and make it's own truth. I also feel we were supposed to summize the photo was of all souls who were absorbed and so not just a group who was there at one time for one party.
@andrewbrendan1579 9 місяців тому
Fascinating ideas and observations in both this video and in the comments. I love discussions about "The Shining". It sounds reasonable to me that there is a pattern of Gradys committing murders at the Overlook. I can see how a place such as the Overlook would have a high turnover of staff and that even a murder or murders could be forgotten. I used to work in a university building that had a number of suicides and even murders take place there, but how many people even know of it now? Someone died in the apartment next to me and in another apartment a few doors down, but I've never mentioned it to succeeding neighbors as there was no point in doing so. In my own apartment something that may be blood has come up through the carpet and there are specks on the bathroom wall that I think may be the protein from blood that a new layer of paint couldn't conceal. Even with Stanley Kubrick involved this may not have any special or symbolic meaning, but the Gold Room bears a strong resemblance to the Club Leviathan which was the nightclub aboard the ocean liner Leviathan that sailed in the 1920's and 1930's. The liner started out in 1914 as the Vaderland under the German flag, was seized by the U.S. in 1917 and became the troopship Leviathan. After the war the ship was kept by the U.S. and turned back into a passenger liner still having the name Leviathan. One of the ornate, old-fashioned pre-war public rooms in First Class became sleek, modern Club Leviathan. I'd love to know if Stanley Kubrick ever saw the seagoing nightclub and used it as the basis for room in the Overlook Hotel. It's possible New York-born Stanley Kubrick had been aboard the Leviathan when it was in New York during his early years or that he had seen images of the nightclub.
@ollieox9181 9 місяців тому
Just to be difficult, I wonder: if Jack was just the caretaker - not the hotel manager or Master of Ceremonies - why would he have a prominent place in that final photograph? You'd think he'd be lost in the background. I've seen the Wendy Theory. She's the bad guy. She abused Danny. She's the manipulator. Dubious evidence of it though - doesn't hold water. The theory that makes sense is that Jack shines - he's the one who gave Danny the talent - but Wendy doesn't. So the hotel can affect Jack and Danny but not Wendy. Danny's shine is very powerful but Jack's is not - he is barely aware of it, if at all. That's why the hotel wants Jack to kill Danny. Wendy is an afterthought. Now, if this is true, how is it that Wendy finally does see the dark spirits at the end - the pig man and guy in the bedroom and the bloodied servant - when she cannot shine?
@Captain-Cosmo 8 місяців тому
What does the photo actually depict? Jack at a July 4 black tie party among the super wealthy and happy guests of the Overlook. What does Jack want? Exactly what's in the photo. We don't need supernatural elements for the film to work. We're just seeing in the photo what Jack must imagined for himself many times before. Nothing in the film is exactly as we see. It's all about what is in the minds of the people.
@RTCMAHL 9 місяців тому
Always liked how Jack stared down every woman he saw in the hotel during the tours. No ones ever talked about that as far as I can tell.
@JackDullBoy5 8 місяців тому
What, that he was a ladies man!?….that’s just Jack Nicholson breaking character 😂
@sarahcahlik0u8me 8 місяців тому
Also, when Jack is waiting for the interview, the magazine hes reading is Playgirl..
@ad6417 8 місяців тому
It was probably ad libbed by Nicholson.
@cosmicwintermoon 9 місяців тому
It's difficult for me to completely seperate King's book and Kubrick's movie when forming my interpretation of the story. I saw the movie first, so that may be part of why. I agree that I feel the hotel used Jack to get to Danny. Danny's powers were so strong, and the hotel wanted that. Jack was more easily manipulated, with his limited ability. I think the hotel was definitely haunted, but had no real power (as Halloran noted) until Danny's presence. I feel the hotel hooked Jack through the scrapbooks and newspaper clippings in the boiler room (in the book, not the movie), causing Jack to become obsessed with the hotel and its history, to lure him in to do its bidding. And used Jack's ego and alcoholism to make him believe he was the important one, and to get him to do the hotel's bidding. Skipping over a lot more I'd like to say, I never felt that Jack being in the photograph at the end had anything to do with reincarnation, or Jack having always been there. I believe it was yet another manifestation by the hotel... and that Grady had most likely "always been there" and appeared in that photo before, and the next caretaker would take that spot in the future.
@bobbylee_ 9 місяців тому
In the novel Hallorann says all mothers of sons with the shingling have a bit of it too. This explains how Wendy saw the ghosts too.
@chaindead 9 місяців тому
This whole video and that interpretation is just wrong. It's far more complicated, in short: Jack is Ken, Wendy is Barbie, hotel is an Oppenheimer.
@jonnycashh3876 9 місяців тому
Lmaoo
@alexmak97 9 місяців тому
Aahahahh. BEST.COMMENT.EVER!
@Alucard_Q_Kazoo 9 місяців тому
I have become Jack, destroyer of doors
@Yesno-jr7ou 9 місяців тому
Yes that’s just stating the obvious ..way to shallow of a comment for a deep director..lol
@sowder 9 місяців тому
MIND BLOWN...
@leoinsf 9 місяців тому
The strength of "The Shining" is the fact that Stanley Kubrick left everything out of the movie that would distract from the simple breakdown of the family. One of the problems I have with the follow-up movie is too many details that clutter up the fear and anguish that the Overlook presents to all those who come to it. What we see in the original movie is the total breakdown of the family and this focus slowly becomes so terrifying that we stop trying to predict where the movie is going! Stanley has his audience completely "in his hands!"
@antonsimmons8519 8 місяців тому
This hotel needs to be brought to the attention of the SCP Foundation.
@slepwick01 8 місяців тому
The shining is E.S.P. (telepathy, telekinesis, etc.). Danny has it and so did Dick Hallorann, the cook. Hallorann talks to Danny about his "shine" while they are alone in the kitchen and explains that he and his grandmother used to have entire conversations without speaking a word. Hallorann explains that buildings like the Overlook can also have a type of E.S.P. That certain negative events imprint themselves on the place and it can take on a life of its own (become haunted). We are given information about various murders, massacres, and other negative events that happened at the hotel through the years. At some point the Overlook hotel took on a life of its own and became "aware". It began using the souls of the deceased to haunt the hotel. The hotel wants Danny's E.S.P. To get it, Danny must be killed on the hotel grounds. This is communicated to Jack and ordered by Grady (the dead caretaker's ghost). In my opinion, the photo at the end means that Jack (having died on the grounds and under dark circumstances) is now a permanent guest, and part of the Overlook. Future guests can expect to see his ghost around the premises.
@PowerUPFantasy 6 днів тому
Nice
@clintwestwood1895 4 місяці тому
Very cool bro, thanks for putting this together for us all.
@TheTenthDoctorandHisTardis 9 місяців тому
I agree that there is a reincarnation aspect/time loop to the movie. There’s another video floating around UKposts has a fascinating take on some of the continuity issues being due to the fact that it’s Wendy’s own breakdown playing a part in the movie too. Compelling film and book, though vastly different.
@Captain-Cosmo 8 місяців тому
We know that Kubrick wasn't loyal to the book, so we can probably safely put aside any interpretations of the film as relying upon it. We also know that Kubrick enjoys ambiguity, or even just the appearance of it. If we look ONLY at the film, without outside commentary, there's no reason to find anything supernatural at all. That does not mean, of course, that the "horror" is not real. Horror can be, of course, entirely in one's head. And I suspect that is a safe way of interpreting this film. Jack has struggled with alcohol and not feeling important. He longs to be wealthy and successful, the life of the party. And in the hotel, he is. His credit is good. He name is known. And he is thoroughly delusional, and causes his family to be delusional (to a lessor extent), too. In this context, the end photo is simply part of his delusion. Caretakers don't attend black tie ballroom parties. He is one of them, front and center. Exactly where he wants to be... forever.
@roadkillz78 9 місяців тому
I can't help but wonder what Jack would have done had he manage to find his way back out the maze before freezing to death. Would he have "offed" himself? I imagine the hotel would drive him to the point in doing so for his "failures". Additionally, he'd probably realize he'd go to prison, hence, being separated from the hotel for the rest of his life which his only recourse to stay with the hotel forever would be to perish in it.
@jonanderson3050 7 місяців тому
The Overlook was built on an Indian gravesite? But the Indians who inhabited the Rockies at the turn of the century didn't bury their dead. So the site's sacred significance might have been something else. My thinking is that the space is a doorway between realities. This could explain why there are two different Gradys, which would certainly otherwise have been noted (two families of Gradys slaughtered within 50 years of each other, and no one noticed?) why the Shining works the way it does (communicating between people in different realities rather than across time) and why Jack is so unsurprised at discovering Lloyd behind the bar, and knows him (different dimension, Jack Shines across different dimensions to access different memories and experiences) and is equally unsurprised by the full ballroom later. It even explains the drastic change in the woman in 237, it's two different women. The Overlook is multiple hotels overlapping each other in multiple realities. Hell, that even explains the impossible floor layouts. Most people who go there don't notice because they only experience one version of it at all times. Others are driven mad by it because they not only experience different versions of the hotel, but different versions of themselves. I'm basing this theory exclusively on the movie, I've never read the book
@AbbeyRoad52 6 місяців тому
I think it’s some form of reincarnation. The two Grady’s Charles and Delbert, suggest that multiple people killed their families in similar fashion there. Delbert said “Jack has always been the caretaker” suggesting that he’s always been there. Jack tells Lloyd at the bar “I always like ya” suggesting he’s met Lloyd before and like him for many years. Jack was a former caretaker and is in this revolving cycle of living his life and bringing his family to the hotel only to murder them. It’s like a quasi-purgatory Jack is forever in, his “job” is to keep bring souls to hotel to collect. The hotel is built in Native American land, a cemetery actually, so I’m thinking that the spirits of the Natives buried there and doing this, maybe as a sort of “payback” for building on their land.
@alexanderdumas- 9 місяців тому
The name of the hotel is the Overlook, referencing the view of the mountains, but it also hints at what we are not seeing. Or actively looking past. Like Jacks Demons. His and his sons abilities. The danger of the hotel. And ironically even the name of the hotel. I love horror books and films and this one TERRIFIED ME
@Awaywrdson 9 місяців тому
I don't know about interpretations of the movie, I just know it was Excellent !! And the end photo, Could Jack look any "Creepier" than that ? I doubt it !! Great Photo !! 👍
@animalsrcute5762 9 місяців тому
I absolutely love both of your Shining breakdowns. My husband just got me the box set of BBC's Luther. Originally only got as far as season 2. Now I am starting over with the box set and because of the new movie on Netflix. I would super love to see your take and break down on the show please please please 🙏👏‼️😁🤩
@sharonroller8849 9 місяців тому
Jack repeats over and over 😢
@cedricjoshuapayne 8 місяців тому
Why would a lowly caretaker be at the 4th of July ball in a full tux? The photo represents The Overlook capturing Jack's soul, just as it wanted to do with Danny.
@MrPiestro 9 місяців тому
Good on Kubrick to relent and pull the film from theaters a mere days after release to change the ending to this, vs the one where it shows Wendy and Danny in a Sidewinder hospital visited by Ulman. The current ending is iconic and will forever stick in viewers minds, while the other is just more standard fare. Though it sounds like Ulman had Jacks tennis ball, the one he was throwing against the Native American tapestry. That said, I really wish we could see it as a deleted scene, but alas Kubrick destroyed it and we only have a couple pictures to show it even existed.
@Ghkijb6465 8 місяців тому
I remember reading about a theory of Buddhist reincarnation that focused on the soul being more of a "scent" or "perfume" that travels to the next life rather than a fully formed consciousness. I believe it was developed out of the incongruity in Buddhist theory that denied the existence of an external soul, but then said that one was reborn. I wonder if that's what Kubrick was mentioning with the "burnt toast." Like how the smell of burnt toast lingers in the air, that's what his soul is doing.
@nrgao 9 місяців тому
Theory time: cobbled together from my own realization and then others online. The movie is actually Kubricks fictionalized critique on Stephen King, his substance dependency and writers block. The film stays loyal to the novel until the miniature maze scene where he visualizes his family inside the maze…. If we remove the assumption of surrealism and frame it as Jack imagining a scene for a book (what he is supposed to be doing while at the hotel) then we are seeing Jack (the author and stand in for King) have his idea for the novel and break through his writers block. After that, we see Jack in his red coat for the first time, who has seemingly had the psychotic break. Instead, it’s Jack, the character, inside the novel that Jack, the author, is writing about himself and his family. Think of it as a new film starting en media res and this is the character intro. Jack the author took the idea from the story of the previous groundskeeper he heard for inspiration , changed his name from Charles to Delbert in the novel he is writing and gives it a happier ending where his family escapes and he dies. This is also a critique on how most ghost stories are optimistic, a direct quote Kubrick made to King that King did not enjoy.
@leonielson7138 9 місяців тому
It would have been especially interesting if Wendy's maiden name had been Grady, meaning that Danny was the cross of the two families the Overlook Hotel was 'feeding on'.
@watermelonlalala 5 місяців тому
One boy escaped from Delbert Grady, and Danny is the reincarnation of that boy. I was thinking Delbert's name should have been "Tony". But now that I invented this son, I think Tony isn't Danny's future self, it's his past self, that escaped from the Overlook in the twenties.
@ianj4389 8 місяців тому
My assumption was that the photo was of all the people who died or were killed in the hotel. That it retains their souls.
@somegamer7958 8 місяців тому
The reason Ullman gets Grady's name, and the ages of the daughters wrong, is because he's dismissive of the events that happened. He's quick to point out that it was his predecessor - not HIM, that hired Grady. When he mentions the daughter's ages you can see that he's not entirely sure he has it right. Kubrick did this because he wants the actions of the characters to make sense. It's preposterous that Ullman hires Jack because of what had JUST happened - and also knowing that Jack was an alcoholic that assaulted a student. This was Kubrick's way of making it more reasonable that Ullman hired Jack in the movie. He was a better judge of character than his predecessor was - he'd never hire a potential murderer. I believe Jack being in the photo wasn't something Kubrick even entirely understood. The line "you've always been the caretaker" is straight out of the book. Strangely, I don't think I've ever seen King get asked about this line. That's the person we should be asking, but I think most people just like to pretend they're read the book. King and Kubrick had a discussion about the book, and it's possible this line came up. Maybe not. King's the only one that would know now. I think Kubrick put Jack in the photo just because of that line, because it was creepy and ominous. I don't actually believe Kubrick had thought it out - exactly how that could be, but did it to leave audiences guessing and debating - as we are now.
@quietlightning4063 9 місяців тому
Maybe Jack’s reincarnation is opposed to the general flow of time and energy as we know it. I always felt that Jack was looking at the potential of an escape into a more interesting and exciting world where he could get away with things because he had power. Jack basically sold his soul for a seemingly better life..
@MarkThatNigga 2 місяці тому
His Reincarnation is when he died and came back as a ghost stuck in the hotel.
@Meine.Postma 9 місяців тому
The movie stands on it's own. Kubrick rewrote it
@dimitardimitrov5736 9 місяців тому
And thankfully so. King's story is horrible, like most of his stuff.
@LobsterMobsterTheCrispiestLoaf 9 місяців тому
The Kubrick rendition of the story is definitely my favorite
@jannlewandowski5540 8 місяців тому
@TheCrispiestLoaf Mine too!
@girthatbirth Місяць тому
@@dimitardimitrov5736wrong
@jeffreyreeves9854 9 місяців тому
Thank you for your commentary.
@ryandonalog1431 9 місяців тому
I think there’s a lot of symbolism in the movie and plenty of ambiguity for the viewer to think on as with most Kubrick films but “sometimes a cigar is just a cigar” and I think you’re correct about the absorption theory. When Delbert Grady says to Jack “You’ve ALWAYS been there caretaker here..” listen to the words emphasized and then Jacks reaction as if he’s thoughts of being trapped in this hellish nightmare are now confirmed for both him and the viewers. At the core I felt Jack was a flawed character doomed to commit the same mistakes and a metaphor of domestic abuse and substance abuse due to its cyclical nature. And it just repeats.. hence the final picture almost signaling not only the past but Jack will be back again in some form- That’s the movie version- we all know the book ends different but it does show that Jack was trying to break the cycle, something the Overlook didn’t want.. loved the movie and novel but movie has my heart- great content.. 📺🫡🔥
@chadgrov 9 місяців тому
Fun fact: that final black and white photo at the end is actually a real photograph from 1923 and they basically just swapped Jack in for the guy who was originally in the picture. gives it more realism instead of using a bunch of extras and having to get them all into wardrobe and makeup
@franbrooks605 8 місяців тому
I am old enough to have seen this movie in the theater. And yes we caught the differences in names and details. But it was a really good movie and i have watched it more times than I want to admit 😅. So glad Stephen King did Dr. Sleep cause I always wondered how Wendy and Danny made out after this experience
@becorations1 8 місяців тому
This was King’s least favorite screenplay of any of his books. He wanted it to appear that the hotel drove a man mad, but Jack had just been in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. He worried people would see him as already being crazy and not get the full effect.
@aretnap3653 9 місяців тому
I Always Kinda Figured... EveryBody That Was in That Photo Shown at TheEnd of TheFilm, Was EveryBody That Was Doomed to Remain In TheHotel.🤔
@Falconer22 9 місяців тому
Why did you capitalize every word in your sentence? Are you drunk or just not very bright?
@damianstarks3338 7 місяців тому
Thanks again for this Shining video
@andreweisen3465 9 місяців тому
You should make shirts of your face cropped over Jack Nicholson's peaking through the broken door lol
@BryanJRichter 7 місяців тому
I think that we never see what the living Jack Torrance looks like. We see the main individual ghost that the hotel is using to possess Jack throughout the entire film, and there is a picture of that ghost while he was alive there from 1921. We never see Jack far away from the hotel, only Danny and Wendy in Denver at the beginning, and the thought also makes me more comfortable with how psycho Jack seems from the very start of the movie as compared to the book. So, essentially, we are watching a ghost the entire time.
@Shannon_Michelle91 9 місяців тому
This is a great summation of the ending. 😊 I’m just wondering, if Wendy was able to see the ballroom skeletons as well as Grady, does that mean she has the Shining too?
@trenttaylor6382 9 місяців тому
Great question! I’ve always wondered about that too. I think it’s just the haunted hotel that brings out all the dead people at the climax of the movie and it’s so powerful that even she can see & sense it momentarily in the end when it’s possessing Jack so intensely. That’s also why she can see the man and the guy and the dog costume in the hotel room performing the sexual act.
@scottplumer3668 9 місяців тому
Yes. In the book Halloran says the moms of those with the shine have a bit of it too.
@holstorrsceadus1990 7 місяців тому
The guy explaining Grady specifically says "...I think about eight and ten..." which implies that he doesn't have all the details down pat. Kubrick doesn't make mistakes.
@kanecross 9 місяців тому
I literally watched this today for the first time, great timing that you brought this video out!
@williammiller3052 4 місяці тому
Potential meaning to the date of the photo. 1921 was during prohibition, the period where alcohol was made illegal in the U.S. by the 18th Amendment. Meaning, that party would have been fueled by illegal alcohol the hotel (organization not hotel itself (in theory)) was actively distributing. Alcohol is a running theme in the story, specifically the prohibition of alcohol for Jack. This would be a potential neat little tie in. Just a theory.
@steveskipper6473 9 місяців тому
Fun fact. The original person in the iconic final photo was a person called Jack Ager.
@mikespearwood3914 9 місяців тому
Does Rob Ager know that??
@timothylangston3560 9 місяців тому
Rob Agers Shinning Videos are Legendary. To me the Biggest mystery/clue is the larger number of continuity errors. For a film maker like Kubrick who was known for being meticulous, to allow so many, even 1 was unthinkable.
@SquidwardLSDSquirtingOctopussy 9 місяців тому
@@mikespearwood3914 Rob having a conversation with the spirit of Jack Ager. Rob: "What's your name btw?" Jack: "Ager, Sir...Jack Ager" Rob: "Ager?" Jack: "Yes Sir" Rob: "Jack Ager?" Jack: "That's quite alright" Rob: "Mr. Ager...Weren't you the guy who made all those brilliant "The Shining" video essays & analysis?" Jack: "I believe you are mistaken me with someone else Sir" Rob: "Mr. Ager...I know you were the Critical Analysist of The Shining" Jack: "Im sorry to differ with you Sir...but you are the Critical Analysist of "The Shining" Movie...you've always been the best Critical Analysist" Jack: "I should know Sir...because...I've always been a subscriber to your UKposts channel" lol
@djtripmix 9 місяців тому
Thanks for the info
@nebusnevermore 9 місяців тому
But you didn't mention the note that Jack is holding in his hand in the photo!
@theterminaldave 9 місяців тому
milk eggs spaghetti sauce dish liquid toilet paper axe zucchini tomatoes coffee
@JackTorrance333 9 місяців тому
Nobody ever mentions that detail.
@ellafieldipops 9 місяців тому
I really enjoy these videos, thanks Paul 😀
@heavyspoilers 9 місяців тому
Thanks so much
@HelenS.739 8 місяців тому
This was truly amazing, tomorrow I'll be watching on Tubi, room 237. I've seen this movie movie when in was 15. Later on I had gotten a job at, Bear Mountain Inn. Early in the morning, which it scared the life out of me. Because I was always waiting for Jack to come in the kitchen with an ax. Thank God I move to lunch and dinner shift. Well I just wanted to say is that the hotel is evil, all done to what the did to the native Americans. Which was so wrong. Like in the movie, poltergeist. The idiots move the tombstones but not the graves. No you don't touch anyone graves. There, there to rest, that's it 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@johnashton4776 9 місяців тому
Great video thanks.
@robertmcginty4146 21 день тому
I just finished a D&D adventure based on The Shining that i came up with. The party went looking for this picture early on, and of course saw themselves in it, holding specific items they needed to find. They took the picture with them, and it was almost like the photo in Back To The Future. Every time they long rested, one of them got a little more blurry, so they knew they had ro move forward quickly. They had to perform a ritual to travel back in time, and then posed for the picture when they arrived. The final fight happened at the stroke of midnight after they finished a skills challenge. Grady emerged from the red bathroom and became a monster, fueled by the evil.
@JAMAICADOCK 8 місяців тому
The man in the 4th of July photograph doesn't look like a caretaker, why would a caretaker be wearing a tux at a swanky party? Why would anyone take an official photograph of a caretaker or why would loads of VIPs pose with a caretaker? Maybe he was such a great caretaker that the hotel put on a bash for him, and took his photograph to mark the occasion - but this seems very doubtful. Especially in the 20s when social class was far more regimented, and a factotum no matter how loyal or industrious would just be taken for granted. So I think it's safe to say that the man in the photograph is not a caretaker. But this is where Jack's failure as a writer might be significant, as the man in the photograph could have been a successful writer, a Jack London type lauded by the great and the good, happy to pose with him on his birthday. Perhaps a writer in residence at the Overlook Perhaps Jack is being punished by karmic forces for a previous existence, where he was a writer who didn't make the most of his talents, led a decadent life just sucking up to the racist, greedy rich. He's come back as a hungry ghost, a man whose neck is too thin for his big appetite - a metaphor for someone whose ambition outweighs their meager talents. That's how karma might punish a rich, arrogant writer - make him caretaker of the same hotel where he was once a writer in residence, while giving him writer's block. In the scene with the bartender Jack seems to be slipping into an earlier incarnation, the language is early 20s - terms like white man's burden, and Timbuktu to Portland Main seem antiquated, and bar tabs in hotels were over by the 1960s. However, this is one of the few moments in the movie when Jack appears and talks like a writer in the 20s. This is the key scene in the film in terms of telling us about the man in the photograph. Grady probably was the caretaker, the caretaker that killed his wife and daughters before blowing his brains out. As a spirit he recognizes Jack from the 20s photograph and gets to work on him, sensing his vulnerability. But Jack doesn't know Grady or was aware of the crimes he committed. That is opposed to the bartender, who seems to be a definite figure from the 20s, someone Jack immediately knows. Lloyd the bartender feels like an embedded memory from a previous existence - whereas Grady feels like a de facto ghost/ evil force manipulating Jack toward madness and mayhem. Another moment when Jack seems to slip into a previous existence, is when he talks about his contractual obligations to the Overlook, and how Wendy is going to ruin it for him just as he's on the verge of making a success of his life? What contractual obligations? What verge of success is he talking about? Surely not the caretaker's job that he has shown absolute contempt for since the start of the movie? However, it was known for five star hotels to offer successful novelists free board and lodgings in exchange for being writer's in residence. The hotel would give the writer space and time to be creative, while gaining prestige from the writers presence. The writer also required to interact with guests, propping up the bar, relaying witty anecdotes, generally being an entertaining gadfly. The picture with Jack at the centre certainly speaks to Jack being a centre of attention. Moreover, the diatribe he throws at Wendy about his contractual responsibilities and obligations, sees Jack, like in the bar, at his most articulate. Once more he sounds like a writer rather than some blue collar pretender. At this moment I think Jack is once again conflating different personalities and different lives.
@HorrorHermitofHell 18 днів тому
Someone else said that 1921 could have been prohibition days, so would Jack have been the "caretaker" who brought the prohibited items on the hush hush. Oh yes, that's our resident author *cough* totallynotourboozeconnect* cough? The evil alcohol doomed to bring them back to a hotel built on top of well, people of that land that died there. They might have been pissed enough once the hotel was in full swing to condem those in a never-ending maze...
@betsyab121 9 місяців тому
I am not sure I buy the reincarnation theory. It is interesting, but my theory is that, as you said, Jack also has the "shining." Maybe fhe hotel emits a kind of pull on people with that talent. The hotel insidiously wears the life force from the caretaker. Persuades the caretakers to kill and add the innocent blood to its lineage. People like Halloran, who have the shining but are good-hearted and kind, can resist the hotel. Even Danny at the end of Dr. Sleep, resisted the pull and sacrificed himself to save Abra, was not bound to the hotel after death because of his good deed. But those that succumb to the evil are bound to the hotel for eternity. It's just a theory!
@HorrorHermitofHell 18 днів тому
Okay so if the photo is from 1921 and the hotel was finished being built ON TOP OF THE GHOSTS OF THE NATIVE LAND basically, was this July 4th( Independence Day!!) Celebration when the ghosts of the land said " excuse us, we'll be giving you a hefty moral bill for removing the essence and spirits of us." Just had to point it out, not sure if anyone else has the same idea or if that was covered in Doctor Sleep
@anttivirolainen8223 2 місяці тому
I personally perceive Stanley Kubrick's The Shining above all as a narrative about how the past, especially the horrors experienced in the past, are always present. Not everyone constantly perceives them, but they are still there. This applies to both nations and individuals. History often influences today's politics as much or even more than the present. The photograph seen at the end symbolizes to me that through his death, Jack became part of the endless chain of ghosts, the chain of horrors, at the Overlook Hotel. The horrors experienced in the past (such as the treatment of Native Americans in the case of the movie) have always been present and are inherently ahistorical. Through his death, Jack became a part of that mass of terrible events that has only grown over time. The timeframe doesn't matter; a certain "cloud of horror" has just covered the hotel from its establishment as well as in the 1920s all the way to the 1970s, or even the 2020s.
@chegauerke1431 6 місяців тому
I just love all the different theories. Makes it great.
@johnwatts8346 8 місяців тому
there is no hotel (or room 237) (and certainly no ghosts or anything supernatural)- its a metaphor for a family home, because the film is about domestic violence, jack even says when ullman shows them their rooms- 'its very homey'. the layout of room 237 is exactly the same as jacks room where he fondles danny and then Rs him. he then decides to kill danny and wendy when she decides she wants to leave and take danny with her- his thought process (that of a crazed / drunk horrible abuser)- 'you cant leave me and take my kid, i'll kill ya before i ever let that happen'.
@pabloa2228 5 місяців тому
The song that plays in the background is Midnight and the Stars and you. It’s sung by Al Bowlly. Who coincidentally died during the bombings of WW2 in London. When the bomb went off the door from his apartment slammed into him while he was sleeping killing him instantly. When he was found people said it looked like he just fell asleep and never woke up.
@JackDullBoy5 8 місяців тому
I noticed like a vast majority of these theory videos that you just skipped passed the fact ‘the hotel is located on an Indian burial ground’ it literally got a 5 second mention when for me it’s one of the most poignant elements to the story and explains so much…… People talk about the ‘hotel consuming Jack’ without ever explaining the force behind the hotel or the film plot in general. If the shining is the number one element and not the hotel being possessed due to its location then surly that must mean Grady (or both them) and/or his kids must have had the shining too!…..otherwise if the story purely hinges on having the shining ability technically Grady wouldn’t have been possessed and gone mad, killed his family and himself if he didn’t have these abilities too and Wendy definitely wouldn’t have seen spirits either. Which would mean it must be the possessed hotel that’s the main character ….for me the powers Danny, Hallorann (and possibly Jack) have are a completely separate part to the story from the possession of the hotel and the two only slowly tie in together as the story unwinds…..or maybe the hotel just got ‘lucky’ with a chef, the new caretaker and his kid having the shining🤔😂 ‘Dr sleep’ is a great sequel novel but the movie adaptation is a complete abortion! I like the fact that nobody truly knows the answers though and that it’s all all open our own interpretation……Anyway another good watch😁👌🏼
@Captain-Cosmo 8 місяців тому
I hooked onto the "Indian burial ground" thing pretty strong at first. Ultimately, my interpretation is that there are no ghosts, but the stories about burial grounds and murderous caretakers just fueled the delusions that each experienced.
@JackDullBoy5 8 місяців тому
@@Captain-Cosmo I will always believe in the ‘Indian burial ground’ theory, it’s taken me years of research to make up this metal scrapbook haha. I have to say though it’s refreshing to hear a theory (without sounding rude 😂) that is simple and straight forward. Your theory would also make sense as I’ve never really classed the film as a horror anyway but a psychological thriller, very much like the ‘Exorcist’ novel.
@Captain-Cosmo 8 місяців тому
@@JackDullBoy5 Every time I watch the film, I almost long for the burial ground thing to end up meaning more. Stephen King had a lot of fun with the idea later in Pet Semetary with wild results. In the case of The Shining, I just applied a bit of the opposite: instead of re-animated corpses leaving the burial site, I imagined that the souls of those who died on the grounds were cursed to haunt them forever. But that theory couldn't explain a ballroom full of ghosts from the 1920s. What could explain the ghosts, however, was the idea that they were all in the heads of Jack, Wendy and Danny, delusions born out of stories they had heard, and manifested out of their own desires, fears, and traumas. When Ullman tells the story of the murderous caretaker, Jack expresses that he can't wait to tell Wendy, who is a horror film buff. We have no reason to doubt that Jack did, or that Danny overheard it (Jack would have had no problem with that, given that Danny already knows all about cannabilism and the Donner Party). But such a story still might have disturbed Danny, who began "seeing" them on the very first day. We're seeing them as Danny imagines them. They say nothing at first, and only do the "forever" thing after Jack asks Danny if he wants to stay there forever. Even the "bear costume" scene can be attributed to Wendy's anxiety about Jack perhaps sexually abusing Danny, who has already been seen reverting to thumb-sucking, a common symptom of trauma in children. I love a good ghost story, but I can't help but see this now as the visions of a family's collective delusions. Admittedly, though, I reallly did like the cursed Indian burial gound story!
@JackDullBoy5 8 місяців тому
@@Captain-Cosmo ‘Pet Cemetery’ a great story regarding the ‘Indian burial ground’ as was ‘Poltergeist’ but with ‘The shining’ I don’t mean it in the literal sense but more in the fact of it being an evil presence and negative energy fuelling the families hysteria grouped with poltergeist phenomena, Danny’s psychic abilities, then there’s the very human element of the ‘complete mental breakdown’ by all 3 in regard to the fact they all have genuine symptoms of ‘cabin fever’ , depression, anxiety, paranoia…. Something mentioned by Ullnan at the interview plus these are supposedly all things that poltergeist feed off. Mix these all together and it’s the perfect recipe for a psychological masterpiece. A lot of what you say rings true also and definitely fits in the abuse part especially, I think it’s really just the paranormal element we see differently but that’s the beauty of the film we get to be subjective. Of course I’m intrigued and fascinated what Kubricks take on the film is and why he did what he did what true fan isn’t but thats a completely different path of research, so many in search of the Holly grail of theories that will crack the Kubrick code while at the same time dismissing and belittling others in order to be the one that’s right (don’t mean you) I on the other hand prefer to do what Kubrick did originally with the book and create my own adaptation of it. For me personal experience in our own lives is the reason this route is more enjoyable, we all watched the film but not one of us saw the same film.
@cheekster777 9 місяців тому
Thank you Paul.
@Darchie 9 місяців тому
Another thing as well that I've always wondered. If they had all somehow managed to last until May 1st would the hotel have released it's hold on them? Jack's contract with the Overlook expired on May 1st. Curious.
@andrewg4 8 місяців тому
They wouldn't though
@addictstatic 9 місяців тому
This is a massive Theory Time. Because originally the king universe is all essentially connected and their are nexus points and major players like Carrie and firestarter and the deadzone in the tapestry of the overarching dark tower mythos. To summarized and spoil the series it is the cyclical story of Roland and his quest for the dark tower yet once he obtains the tower the fields in front of the door welcome him and ask him of his journey reading his guilt. At the very top Roland is faced with a coffin shaped door with his name on it and he emerges in the scene at the start of the first book. That being said would the whole king verse resetting Jack as well as all the other characters would be on the same course.....
@BrokenhornKT 9 місяців тому
How about this!! The Hotel was built over top of a Indian Grave Yard, Who's to say those Reasonable were Cursed and if they Ever came back to the Area again, the Curse would put them in a endless Loup of A Revenge for Such a Sin and Disrespect to the Grave yard.
@daxleone 9 місяців тому
Kind of surprised you didn't mention Jack's 'as above, so below' stance in the photo
@PrimetimeD 9 місяців тому
The Key and Peele skit spoofing this had me rolling.
@danbednarski9531 8 місяців тому
Did Wendy have the shine also? In the book she also saw and heard the “ ghosts” she also saw things left behind by the ghosts such as party favors in the elevator and confetti on the floor.
@kevinmullis4222 9 місяців тому
You need to read " Dr. Sleep" and the vampires of "the dark tower" series, to clearly understand.
@ericfigueroa5956 6 місяців тому
If the photo represents all the souls that died at the overlook, why isn’t Dick Hollerhan in the photo? He died in the hotel as well
@johnjulyan-gudgeon780 9 місяців тому
If the movie is meant to occur in 1975, and the end photo is 1921. Well the difference between them is 54 years. I believe IT has a cycle of 27 years? 27 x 2 = 54
@leonardsl6667 2 місяці тому
Such a complicated theory, and so much more ungainly than the simple idea that Jack spent that winter writing a horror novel around the brief anecdote he was told about Grady, imagining himself as the protagonist, while Wendy did all the caretaking work. The novel was a success, and the movie made from it is called Here's Johnny. Because the novel was rushed into publication, it has many continuity errors, which the director decided to write into the screenplay because they add a layer of mystery. The real Jack is now very much alive, wealthy, and kicking it in Beverly Hills with his second or third wife. He's done a lot of therapy and has been clean and sober for years. He goes on talk shows to complain that the movie got his story all wrong, and eventually got behind a remake, which wasn't very good. Even later, he wrote a sequel, which also wasn't very good. As for Wendy, soon after the first movie came out she divorced that loser and now lives off a very generous settlement which includes a small ownership stake in the original movie. Sadly, Danny joined a grunge band in Seattle and while still in his twenties died of a tragic overdose. As for the Overlook Hotel, there is no Overlook Hotel. It's a composite of various hotels located in several states, none of which has a maze.
@BraveBob13 2 місяці тому
One thing I've wondered about the movie is why all the ghosts seem to be only from that 1920's era. Wasnt the hotel built around 1910 in the story? The Shining has always been my favorite movie ever since it traumatized me at 8 when I probably shouldn't have watched it lmao.
@nama022 8 місяців тому
What i always thought about the shot is much simpler : when Jack had his "going back in time" moments, well, he actually went back to a version of the past that was tailor made for him by the hotel - hence the picture. As we can see, Jack is taking the central place on that picture and everything revolves around him... Why would that be ? A simple hotel caretaker to be the star of a jet-set bal ?
@Captain-Cosmo 8 місяців тому
Yes. Or, even simpler, nothing supernatural is actually going one, and we're just seeing the photo as Jack must have stared at it and imagined himself being many times before. He imagines a 1920s party because that's what in the photo. And he even "overlooks" the fact that he's only the off-season caretaker. (Remember, the part on July 4, a day in which the off-season caretaker would not even be there.)
@xx7secondsxx 9 місяців тому
Great introspective into the film!!!🤘🎸🤘🎸🤘 I've just read the book recently and it DIDNT CLEAR ANY OF THE THINGS UP! the way Kubrick went about it was GREAT!!! ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!! there are things in the novel that just wouldn't have translated very well. That's an great view on the picture! I've heard a theory about his stance is similar to Baphomet. The one hand up and the one down and in a circular shape. Loved ur take on it! Will def have to go back and watch the other piece on the film! I've seen people talk about the TV series being better than the film and I'm SORRY GUYS!!! with Joel from WINGS playing Jack? Nahh man. I'd like to go back and etch it now in a better critique of films! But yea... I remember enough of the changes to were even as a kid I was LAMMMEE!
@RobertLeather 3 місяці тому
I mean two things that stand out for me is how Ullman (the hotel manager) tells Jack Torrance that "he is highly recommended by his people in Denver" which always threw me, even as a kid, because he's clearly lost his job as a teacher and had to move state (hence the still unopened boxes in their "new" home. I think they said they'd been there less than 3 months. Anyway, being a violent alcoholic isn't usually a top reference on your resume. So I always wondered who the people in Denver were and why they were so keen for Jack (and family) to be the people who were sent there. Like the Hotel is manipulating people or perhaps there are unseen forces at play - placating the hotel with sacrifices. Who knows.... And I've always assumed that "the hotel" was looking to replace the aging and perhaps dying Hallorann (played by Scatman Crothers) with new fresh Shining blood, i.e. Danny. Hence Hallorann is so easily killed. But what does anyone else think?
@brianmaple4516 8 місяців тому
The hotel is Blockbuster Video and Jack is looking for Mallrats…. He’s doomed to spend eternity there and he’s losing his mind whilst doing it.
@ArthurShedsJackson 7 місяців тому
This is my all-time favorite horror film. The ending is absolute brilliance. Part supernatural, part reality. Jack's insanity is a real possibility in real life where most horror films are steeped in supernatural characters which I find silly, comical and predictable (like the "Exorcist") since there's zero evidence of the supernatural of any kind ever.
@jlbalb 8 місяців тому
Can you explain the piece of paper in Jack's hand in that last photo, and why the man behind him is trying to pull Jack's arm.
@erichowry9356 9 місяців тому
Great video!
@heavyspoilers 9 місяців тому
thank you
@edgescarborough4724 3 місяці тому
The Car (1977) also used a variation of the intro music, or rather, The Shining used a variation of the intro music to The Car....something like that.
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