The Smart fortwo: Why Mercedes' Smallest Car was its Biggest Mistake

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In today's video, for the first time ever I drive the original Smart Car. Dubbed the City-Coupe at inception, and later the ForTwo - this is the W450 generation Smart Car. Massively hyped, but not well received - the car caused a huge problem for its maker. But why?
Big thanks to Paul for lending this car @LivetoDriveUK
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@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Рік тому
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@Kay_Emm_
@Kay_Emm_ Рік тому
Thank you for getting me my discount for my check on my 1st car: a 69hp Kia Picanto. Did I buy it because of that figure? No. Did it play a part? Yes.
@richardwigley4942
@richardwigley4942 Рік тому
Love smart not balls to buy one have driven meny gt fun
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 11 місяців тому
Cant get over how the seats look like dicks with veins.
@markstuckey6225
@markstuckey6225 11 місяців тому
That's probably because they didn't have to work on the bloody awful unreliable pieces of junk. But here, where the climate doesn't consist of constant cloud, I have had only customers who felt nothing but regret when the six months of novelty wore of. They are terrible in town because of that trans; it is impossible to creep forward because the clutch progressive kept engaging, so the driver had to use the brake and throttle together. Also being German that had some idiotic layouts.
@guidedmeditation2396
@guidedmeditation2396 10 місяців тому
The Smart car was a necessary evil for Mercedes. They needed a tiny car to offset your massive gas guzzler empire main offerings. Its success was public relations and profits elsewhere in the company.
@DanAlexC
@DanAlexC Рік тому
I have never met a Smart owner who wasn't happy with their choice. That little car is surprisingly good
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma 11 місяців тому
Yes, they're well-built (that somewhat justifies the absurd price when new) and although they aren't that fast, they feel and sound rather peppy. That little engine just behind you gives a nice rasp and the short gears force you to change gears often, giving you a very satisfying feeling of driving.
@cyjanek7818
@cyjanek7818 11 місяців тому
Wow I thought about it and I also never saw unhappy owner, I read about engine problems in early smarts but it seems like advantages were better than even engine problems
@DavidJBradshaw
@DavidJBradshaw 11 місяців тому
My uncle had one and used to drive it more than his SL Merc.
@user-vh7ki7xu7o
@user-vh7ki7xu7o 11 місяців тому
Are they they also telling you they own rear engine sports cars too 😂
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma 11 місяців тому
@@user-vh7ki7xu7o Nah, even owners of a Smart Roadster generally speaking don't try to sell the "My Roadster is a sportscar" line, but there may always be exceptions. An owner of a Mercedes S-class once told me he had a sports-car, because according to him the S stands for sports.......... right.
@marcelhannover3
@marcelhannover3 Рік тому
This was the first car I ever drove all alone after I got my drivers license. It is very funny to drive in a storm on the highway, it feels like a sailing boat.
@quas392
@quas392 Рік тому
later ones including mine have “crosswind assist” which just beeps at you and slams on the brakes when you encounter a gust its great fun 🙃
@mattBLACKpunk
@mattBLACKpunk Рік тому
@@quas392 wow thenk for the assist Mr car
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 11 місяців тому
Did you get sea sick?
@Jaxs2
@Jaxs2 Рік тому
Brilliant little car ... I have one 😊 .. 15 years of ownership.. and still my go-to vehicle 🙏
@xiaobaozha
@xiaobaozha Рік тому
I miss my LHD Pulse, especially after it went through some modding by SmartArse. Wish I had found a way to keep it.
@Jano1998
@Jano1998 10 місяців тому
@@xiaobaozha what happend?
@dancehallsurgery
@dancehallsurgery 8 місяців тому
Does it struggle in a multi story car park? I really want to buy one but worried as I use a multi story car park at work
@Jaxs2
@Jaxs2 8 місяців тому
@dancehallsurgery Not sure what you are referring to , why would it struggle ?
@rosyblue1
@rosyblue1 8 місяців тому
Mine is on an 03 plate and I have had it for twenty years. I will keep it for as long as it lasts. Still has just 46,000 miles on the clock.
@angelaharris6577
@angelaharris6577 7 місяців тому
I have a 2006 smart fortwo. Still going great guns, when you overtake "normal" cars, they are quite shocked😂 I've got 85mph out of her but only slowed down as I ran out of road. She's never let me down and is a fun little car. Just had its winter service and had new washer pump . Not bad for a 17 year old car.
@magnusladd
@magnusladd 3 місяці тому
how many kms have you done in it
@CityChristina
@CityChristina Місяць тому
Mine is 2008 and has 66,000 miles. Loving mine too!
@bigal3055
@bigal3055 Рік тому
😂😂 That "KHAAAN!!" rage killed me dead. The mayor tasks you, Jay. He tasks you.
@09juliancarr
@09juliancarr Рік тому
Big Al wins the internet today
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Рік тому
And I will have him!
@Fc-cb3tn
@Fc-cb3tn Рік тому
It's unfortunate that we got the version of Wrath of Khan nobody wanted...🥲
@futurecat
@futurecat Рік тому
But it was the version the City needed.
@princesssolace4337
@princesssolace4337 Рік тому
That's what happens when Indian/Paki got a grudge pre 1947 India
@allareasindex7984
@allareasindex7984 Рік тому
Yes, but a Hayabusa swap makes it much more entertaining. The best last 5 minutes of your life.
@SoulTouchMusic93
@SoulTouchMusic93 Рік тому
"beat last 5 minutes of your life" XD I'm stealing that!
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 4 місяці тому
As I wrote above, I'm looking at a K1600,6 cylinder BMW engine, remarkably similar design to the factory Smart engine, or a V4 Honda, see what comes available before I make my choice...been wanting to convert one for nearly 15yrs, looks a laugh 😂
@AtentieCadMere
@AtentieCadMere Рік тому
My wife and her colleague had to park in one space at work, so they each bought one. She choose the 40 hp diesel, really really bad choice, full it almost did't climb big hills, and was a few times in the shop. We chose a second gen 451, Brabus 100hp, convertible. Fun :). And roomy. What we took from the city in the boot, would not fit in an E90 328xi boot. We moved house and did Ikea runs in it, no shops required. Still searching for another one. The newer gen, 453, has better doors and insulation. We tested a 451 ED convertible, really serene, regret not buying before the price increase. 451 is not that well insulated, sound wise, and made us drive too fast, always pushing us to, I don't know why, but just go faster. The e90 did no such thing. Could you give a Toyota IQ a go? Way better car, same story, ahead of its time, and really really expensive now, with 10 year old models going for 10k Euro and up. Long com, sorry, cheers!
@olivier2004
@olivier2004 Рік тому
The Iq is horrible. Clutch is bad, no torgue/it’s slow, audio is horrible, when With non hight ajustable Seat hou have Your head in the roof when longer than 185cm (i’m 191cm) and in the grabhandle when the Road is bad of when a sleeping policeman is on the road. Boot non existand, yes you can use the backseats) Get a gen 2 Smart EQ cabrio. That’s a Great car!(only the range is really small) Or get an Up! Also nice.
@Lollllllz
@Lollllllz Рік тому
Until he does maybe techmoan's piece could help?
@AtentieCadMere
@AtentieCadMere Рік тому
@Alexander Ratisbona it was also a Cabrio, and the first weekend of enjoying the car she took her big boyfriend to a getaway in the mountains. now do not imagine off-roading, regular paved roads, but twisty, hilly... you get the picture. alone would have been fine, it is a city car that is fun, so people get carried away. another friend saved a lot of money driving it in the city over 60 miles a day, so great car the diesel.
@YOCOSMINMAX16
@YOCOSMINMAX16 11 місяців тому
Copiaza si video-ul asta si tradu-l in romana.
@wojciechmuras553
@wojciechmuras553 11 місяців тому
​@@olivier2004The iQ uses the same powertrains as first gen Aygo, and those are not bad powertrains at all - even if none of them make the car a speed demon. The other things are simply because of the size - it's not very high, it's not long at all (but as a 3 seater, it's got quite a decent boot)... It's a tiny car, but if you want a tiny car - it's not bad at all. Shame it was never a convertible, that would've been fun. Also, the electric version is completely unobtainable... But even those versions that you can actually buy are really good cars, considering the footprint. Extremely practical.
@sbuskov
@sbuskov Рік тому
I am a fairly serious car nut myself and own, amongst others, a 996.2 Gt3, an x100 Xkr 4.2, a Cls55 amg, an Alfa 159 3.2 Q4 AND an '08 W451 Smart ForTwo 0.8 Cdi Passion 😍 My absolute favorite daily driver, and faithful companion is the Smart! Doesn't offend anyone, always works, easy to park and slows down the world a bit 👌👌😊
@aslee3312
@aslee3312 Рік тому
As an owner of an 05 Smart Fortwo (as a second car runabout), I love my rear engine'd, rear wheel drive, turbocharged two seater German sports car 😂
@brianfreeman8290
@brianfreeman8290 Рік тому
It's a car to LOVE !. My 451 1.0 turbo, tuned (easily) to 130bhp, is a box of fun. Little electronic interference, it's a car that you actually have to drive, especially with paddle shift, though the ride is horrid, and cross winds can be frightening. Mine, you will be surprised to hear, reminds me of the 205 GTI. Same steering feel. Same power and acceleration, Inherent understeer, and if you lift mid corner, it will try to kill you ! I came from Audi TTs and MX5s, and there is more room than either, and I don't need my wife to help me get out. Loads of goodies, heated leather seats, aircon etc. Maintenance is either easy DIY ( oil changes are a doddle) , or, as you suggest, use a smart specialist . Finally, it is DIFFERENT !
@S-Ltd1000
@S-Ltd1000 Рік тому
130bhp?! From memory 120 was borderline safe for the Suprex engine and beyond that you needed to upgrade the internals.
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 Рік тому
@@S-Ltd1000 He also has stickers with flames on the sides and a Brabus badge, that's easily 10hp+
@brianfreeman8290
@brianfreeman8290 Рік тому
@@S-Ltd1000 I've done several thousand miles since and it seems absolutely fine, but I do an oil change every 5k miles. I hope that helps !
@andrewholland1390
@andrewholland1390 Рік тому
​@@S-Ltd1000 the second gen petrols didn't have a Merc suprex engine, they were made by Mitsubishi instead
@phillipgoldsworthy8531
@phillipgoldsworthy8531 6 місяців тому
My 451 is remapped to 130bhp ..... bought from a chap who spent a lot getting the right model after doing lots of homework and had company up north remap gearbox too. Has stainless exhaust and Brabus wheels etc etc .... subwoofer under the seat was icing on the cake too ....... awesome little motor 😅
@DantesDentist
@DantesDentist Рік тому
I drove a Smart Roadster many moons ago and absolutely loved it.
@craigix
@craigix Рік тому
One of my most favourite cars I've ever owned.
@joerith00
@joerith00 11 місяців тому
@@craigix Hi, I am looking into getting a roadster as daily. Would you recommend it as a daily? It would need to stay outside pretty much the whole time.
@koini11
@koini11 11 місяців тому
@@joerith00 I have a roadster as my only car. I don't exactly daily it because I don't need to drive that much. That said, they are cheap to run and good fun. If you don't need to do a big shop or carry large amounts then they are a good choice, especially in cities. Mine is fine for a light weekend away with luggage for 2. Plus the back way is a lot of fun! You do need to make sure they don't leak though. A good one will have had that looked into and fixed already but check. And even then I'd make sure you take steps to keep the worst of the rain off with a roof cover. James Walsh of practical classics magazine is a good source of advice. As is Geoff from G&M motors.
@joerith00
@joerith00 11 місяців тому
@@koini11 thanks a lot for the advice! I was also thinking already about a half-cover as I don't think a full cover will work because you cannot put it on while the car is wet. But I don't think it would be as bad with a half-cover.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 21 день тому
@@koini11 They all leak, it's just a question of severity.
@rosyblue1
@rosyblue1 8 місяців тому
I have a Smart Passion and have owned it for twenty years now. I LOVE it and hope I never need to let it go. Mine still has the original cassette player (LOL) in it.
@nadaname391
@nadaname391 8 місяців тому
I have an 09 Brabus and love it. As gas keeps creeping up again the 44 mpg I'm getting is very nice.
@LivetoDriveUK
@LivetoDriveUK Рік тому
James, love the review of my car. Enjoyed the morning. See you at the next meet up 👍
@StylusPT
@StylusPT Рік тому
Here in Portugal, they were like a fashion accessory, they picked up where Twingos up models like the Initiale left off, the "small chique" niche, symbols of urban sophistication, coolness and fun, too expensive to be a reasonable choice. You can still see loads of them on the roads, they sold well here, although the unreliability and the UNDERSTEER owners go the extra mile to keep them alive. And then came the Fiat 500...
@andrecarvalho1128
@andrecarvalho1128 Рік тому
Remember when they were all the rage as mobile advertisement signs for businesses?
@gro9465
@gro9465 Рік тому
@@andrecarvalho1128 Yep. I had ours plastered in my business logo!
@ErikssonTord_2
@ErikssonTord_2 11 місяців тому
I think it was bought by the same group of owners here in Sweden, so not that many around, sadly.
@martinclapton2724
@martinclapton2724 Рік тому
Small cars, they generally are very much fun to drive, whether it be the original BMC Mini , one of the Fiat small car range or any other city car. What annoys me is the fact that manufacturers have gone LARGE when there is absolutely no need. Look at the modern hatchbacks and see how much larger they are than their predecessor, technology may have made them more economical but it’s at the expense of complexity which is often much more expensive to fix when it goes wrong.
@julianberks4500
@julianberks4500 Рік тому
My mum bought a new one in 2003. She still has it. It’s uncomfortable over bumps and the gear change isn’t too bad once you get the hang of it (bloody awful if you don’t). But we refuel it annually whether it needs it or not and it bombs along at 70 at a push. Up to 35,000 miles now. Only real problem is water leaks. I’ve resealed the rear windows, replaced the door seals (still available from Mercedes!) and replaced the windscreen. Still leaks a bit. But it’s a hoot to drive and mandatory going anywhere parking might be an issue. Oddest thing is climbing out. Once you step out of it, you’re standing behind it!
@itstheterranaut
@itstheterranaut Рік тому
I might have mentioned this before, but I imported one from Holland in '99 and put it through the various things needed to pass an SVA in the UK. This was easy enough; swapped the reverse and fog lights, designed and printed a new index for the speedo that had MPH as the major. It was fun, there were only a handful here at the time. People would stop you in filling stations as I put petrol in....is this electric, mate? Yes pal, thats electric petrol I'm putting in there. And people would wave you out at junctions, staring. It was very disarming. However, it wasn't much fun to drive. Skinnier front tyres to let you sense the back end breaking away, crashy ride, the ever-rattling roof blind, that awful gearbox. I was surprised to get a letter (remember them?) from MB UK one day. Would I like to bring mine to my local dealer for a checkup and chat? It turned out that they'd flown over an engineer from Hambach to put updates on it, including the gearbox. Hard to believe it was worse than the one you had, prior to the tweaks being made. And then they sat me down with coffee and biscuits, and MB UK's marketing team, to ask me why I'd bought one and done all the rest. The hint was that they were releasing in the UK soon and wanted feedback. So I'm proud to say that myself and others 'original' UK owners (all on the old 'Smart Club' forums) contributed some....ideas....to the launch. One of them that didn't make it was a hold mode for gears. Occasionally, when scooting up to a roundabout, coming off the gas will drop the gear, and that half-second or so could be terrifying while it decided what to do. V799 FSF, I see that long ago you met your maker, but I still remember you fondly. I'd never have another, but for a short time it was nice to be at the cutting edge.
@quas392
@quas392 Рік тому
fantastic story never knew the UK had a later release of the first ones
@outrunninginflation4081
@outrunninginflation4081 Рік тому
Been enjoying our 2002 Passion far more than we ever expected when we bought it 3 months ago. £20 to fill it, lots of them here on the Isle Of Wight - an ideal place for them cheers
@nickwebb9290
@nickwebb9290 Рік тому
Hi, just thought I’d mention, we’ve been enjoying our 2002 smart 4-2 Passion since we bought it new that year. Very almost twenty-one years later and we still love it. Now living down in west Cornwall it’s ideal for the small country roads and tight parking spaces. Cheers.
@TyphloRanitar
@TyphloRanitar Рік тому
My mother had a Smart ForTwo and was part of a Smart Club that did local tours in my country (Netherlands). It was fantastic to be in the queue of Smarts. All local inhabitants didn't mind these cars touring by, because they were light, small and didn't make a lot of noise. The knobs on the dashboard are a quirky thing and I quite like them. The reason the clock is that big (@ 13:18) is so they could just mass produce same-size materials. Interestingly, my first car was a Citroen C1 and it had similar knobs as an option. Mine didn't have any of them. But the rev counter is not necessary in such a car anyway. Loved these little things for being different than the norm!
@freibier
@freibier 11 місяців тому
I never owned one myself, but I know some people who had one. I was always surprised at how much space there was inside the car. Not the trunk, but the actual space for the two people inside. When you sit inside, it does not feel like a small car - you have the same space as in the front of any other, larger, car. Really good packaging. If all you do is drive to work and you never have to haul large furniture around (normal grocery shopping fits very well, though) - this really is a car you should consider, if you have to do a lot of city parking.
@janetwasher7555
@janetwasher7555 Рік тому
I had one of the original designs and I loved it. I then upgraded to a new cabriolet model and have still got it after 10 years. It had already 'done'9500 since first registered in2011. I have just completed 40,000 miles. The best fun drive on the road. I suppose you either love ' or' hate' em. My hubby and I love it.
@BAC_Mono
@BAC_Mono 7 місяців тому
They’re perfect 1st cars, cheap to run and fix, easy to insure and small so easy to place. My daughter managed to reverse hers into a skip. £90 of panels and a couple of hours later it was good as new. It’s now probably the only Smart car with parking sensors 😁
@paulrchapman1
@paulrchapman1 Рік тому
I’m a Paul, my Smart for 2 reg starts WR06 and is in the same colour as Paul’s Passion, but mine is called Grandstyle. This includes an electrically operated canvas hood, heated leather seats, leather door cards, stability control ( to maintain composure when swerving to avoid elks) ABS brakes, air con, a tiny turbo and removable side roof panels, which store in a compartment within the lower boot lid. This allows for a truly open top. I share the enthusiasm for Smarts and I’ve owned mine for over 11 years, mileage 91,000 +. It’s manoeuvrable , nippy and fun. You can always find a parking space and I’ve loved the car from the day I bought it. I put in ear plugs and drive reasonably long distances in relative comfort at relatively high speeds and great economy. I’m amazed at its staying power, just keeping on going, a well made ingenious car with fun features.
@stootsievonsalzburg7769
@stootsievonsalzburg7769 Рік тому
I cannot imagine my life without one... since 2000, when the diesel came along. My best score was 2,8 liters for 100 kilometers.. from Salzburg to Liverpool. (which I did 4 times, packed with luggage, amplifier and 2 guitars. Countless trips to Italy...) Standard consumption is around 3 - 3,5 liters.
@michaelsavino5700
@michaelsavino5700 Рік тому
As an owner of 2 Smart cars in Florida I was happy to see that your video came into my feed this morning. I also have a 2008 Ford Escape that I love. I bought my first Smart car new in 2008 when they first came available in the US. It is also silver and blue like the one you were driving, however the interior differed in a number of ways. I have heated leather seats which were handy when I bought it up in Rhode Island, but are not used down here in Florida. I have A/C and make use of the paddle shifter when I drive it. The roof has a full sunscreen so that I'm protected from the sun at all times. It's a great around town car that I use as a daily driver. In 2016 my wife and I bought a used 2013 Smart. She uses that vehicle. I have replaced the car door speakers with new Sony speakers that are far better and I also replaced the stereo system in the 2008. I have a 2 car garage at my house and I park the Smart cars back to back so that I can park 3 cars in the garage. My main criticism of Mercedes over the years is that they never properly marketed the car either here or anywhere else. If they had I believe that they would have been more successful in selling them. I wish that they still made the gas engine Smart. The range of the new electric Smart is only 68 miles. That's a joke. I'm also fortunate that a repair shop near to my house specializes in repairing Smart cars. I have not had any problems with either car since I've owned them. As you've seen they are fun cars to own. Thanks for the great video.
@andyc9902
@andyc9902 11 місяців тому
This things are like a bike
@PRH123
@PRH123 11 місяців тому
I froze to death in a smart car a few years ago, and I'm very offended from beyond the grave :) Very interesting and balanced overview, thank you.
@byronmills5952
@byronmills5952 Рік тому
Love mine when I owned one - gearchange was horrid and the ride quality was non existent - but it was huge fun all the same. It was like nothing else - and still is. I'd love another.
@fmerkl
@fmerkl Рік тому
I have 2013 Smart Fourtwo and love it for running around town!!
@twentyrothmans7308
@twentyrothmans7308 Рік тому
Very popular in Frankfurt when we lived there. Park in spots otherwise unusable (though their drivers often parked other cars in).
@alles_klar
@alles_klar Рік тому
Back when these launched in my country, Smart offered a cheaper lease where the plastic bodywork panels would have ads on them they could switch every so often. Pretty forward stuff.
@andrewblades8368
@andrewblades8368 Рік тому
Austin did that on Minis in the 1970s. The adverts were painted into the car though so not as easy to remove as on the Smart. I’ve seen photos of Minis advertising Cadburys Animals and I think Smarties
@arcanondrum6543
@arcanondrum6543 11 місяців тому
Well, "Edward Bernays : Social Engineering, Advertising and Marketing" is PROBABLY a video that you both and others will want to watch. There are more like it, some point out that pre-schoolers can recognize the corporate logos of most major brands whereas nature befuddles them. Same story for college students by the way, didn't pick up many cues from nature, "not profitable".
@nonick8490
@nonick8490 Рік тому
I consider myself a petrolhead (and love my Chimaera 500). But I daily drove 3 Smart fortwo cars over a 12 year period, for commuting into a major city, the last one a convertible. I absolutely loved them, and would never have sold the convertible, hadn't I occasionally needed 4 seats then. It was fun on that daily trip over winding roads in a hilly area! I even took the convertible for a skiing trip into Switzerland (from Germany), with the skis inside as well (although admittedly alone). And I remember a lot of astonished faces when I overtook them on country lanes on the way to work in the mornings .... You had to work the gearbox a bit for that though.
@Nodstar73
@Nodstar73 Рік тому
No mention of the similarities to a 911 😂 I have had a couple and really enjoyed them, you need two hands on the wheel with anything more than a light breeze on the motorway, especially with the 1st and 2nd gen cars. I now have the 3rd gen (2018) 1Ltr in manual and it addresses a lot of the short comings and is well suited for modern life, feel free to borrow if you ever want to test one and thanks for the great content.
@lanorc
@lanorc 11 місяців тому
3rd gen is bigger though. They really tackled all problems with the size i think
@per-johanahlstrom7993
@per-johanahlstrom7993 11 місяців тому
As the crankshaft is located in front of the rear axel I guess you can say it's a mid engine car? A boxter rather than 911 then... :-)
@Nodstar73
@Nodstar73 11 місяців тому
@@per-johanahlstrom7993 that is a fair point, the boxster is also Stuttgart designed, two door and rear wheel drive so happy to be corrected.
@thorbjrnhellehaven5766
@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 10 місяців тому
I think the Smart is a very cool car. While I think all versions have their own coolness; personally the electric models makes more sense to me. I think they have only one flaw, they are as small as the can be, and still be classified as normal car. I think micro cars categorized as four wheel motorcycle and moped, in many cases, make more sense. They are even lighter, with lower consumption, lower age and/or license requirements (depending on country), compared to normal car.
@colinjones2505
@colinjones2505 Рік тому
Actually, the first review I've ever watched on this. Love 'em' Outrageously different. Want one now. No room though....oh hang on a mo. The garden shed alongside the lawn mower.🥰
@h.k.7445
@h.k.7445 Рік тому
James I own Smart Crossblade (2000 pieces only) for past 15 years and Smart Nightorange (245 made for UK) for past 11 years - they will stay will me forever
@gro9465
@gro9465 Рік тому
Had to Google Smart Nightorange....Now I want one 😍
@RacerGRE
@RacerGRE Рік тому
In 1999 I had an old mini, had my own parking spot where nothing else could fit in a very central area. Once these came out, i never found the spot available again, I hate them for this, but i give them credit for 2 things: 1. They inspired the brilliant but even more expensive Toyota IQ 2. They are the only classless cheap car, driven both by tycoons and pizzaboys.
@fredschmitt456
@fredschmitt456 11 місяців тому
You got to give credit for the person who t-boned a Smart Fortwo. It shows excellent timing skills.
@albertol1529
@albertol1529 10 місяців тому
I bought my wife one and taught her to drive in it. I got my wife’s 451 ForTwo Passion Convertible in 2017 (it’s a 2013) from Manchester Mercedes. It had a full service history, a full 1 year’s warranty which I extended for £26 a month and only had 28k miles on the clock. It also had the Bose (?) JBL (?) sound system with subwoofer and the 85bhp turbo, 899cm3 engine. It’s finished in a weird silver that actually looks bronze. My wife has put 40k on it and it’s been serviced regularly at Mercedes for only £25 a month. She loves it, and it’s easy to drive and easy to park and has plenty of room, since she’s very slim! The ride is shit, the auto box is a joke, but to get her a few miles to and from work, it’s been fantastic. It’s not cost us a bean, beyond winter tyres, which we leave on it, since it’s so light weight. I occasionally drive it using the paddle shifters and from 2nd through to 5th it’s great. 1st is too short and very dangerous if sneaking onto a roundabout, especially since the up shifter has disappeared to the 6 o’clock position. It does 45mpg when I hammer it, and well over 55 mpg when she does. The roof is modular allowing anything from a partial sunroof style opening to the full convertible experience with the side bars stowed in the drop down boot panel. The roof can be operated up to 60mph, there’s hardly any that can do that! It also has a drop down front seat do you can get longish loads in through the boot. The quality is ok, it’s not Mercedes standard, but it’s certainly better than a lot of the small automatics I looked at before buying it. I also only paid £5200 for it, and last year, someone offered me £4500 for it. There’s no point because second hand cars are over-priced now. We’ll hold on to it for another year. She was due to get a Merc E53 AMG convertible, but the Ukraine war sent everything skyrocketing…..so I bought a BMW motorbike instead! Once everything calms down, she’ll get her new car……once it calms down!
@LoftT
@LoftT 11 місяців тому
I own a similar fortwo (model 2004 starblue cabrio) with 460K km on the clock (285K miles) and still runs like a beauty. Of course I am servicing it regularly at a smart specialist and, living in Athens I still think it is one of the best choices, as long as you're always aware of what you are driving (its a smart fortwo, not a 106 rallye 😁). However, I have travelled all over Greece, and I still love it. Looking forward for your video with a smart roadster. Having driven one of those, I think its a shame its not still available to buy as new. Very interesting drivetrain. Greedings from Greece!
@testingandtrackdays8651
@testingandtrackdays8651 11 місяців тому
I bought two of these around 6 years ago as non runners…soon fixed them and had fun for a while before selling them on for a large profit. Great fun little cars. Went on to buy a non runner smart roadster and had miles of fun in that too…
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi Рік тому
24:36 "..."a Mercede badge, which back then, still counted for something, even if MB were trying hard to ruin their reputation" 🤣 Shots fired
@nigelbutters5769
@nigelbutters5769 Рік тому
Great video which brought back memories for us. We had a Smart Passion between 2002 and 2010. Always wanted one because of the innovative quirky tech but waited for RHD cars to be introduced, had to go to Birmingham to buy it as there were only 2 dealers selling them at the time. It was a great little car that did us proud for 8 years and 95k miles. After that gave it to my son who drove it for another 4 years. Once we had gotten used to the quirky gearbox (ours had paddle shifts as well) I could fling ot around anywhere and often took it out in preferance to our Passat estate just for the sheer hell of it. A great, fun, go anywhere, park anywhere car and my wife still misses it.
@lmoore5264
@lmoore5264 Рік тому
Jay this is the best most objective video I have seen on the Smart. I am from the States and we were not lucky enough to get the 450. Oh how I would love to get my hands on Paul's. Paul too has a great channel that I listen to with great interest especially when he is driving that blue Smart as he talks to us. I have a 451 and here you either hate them or love them, there's no in between. The Smart died over here because Americans want big SUV's and diesel pickups. And the worst was that there was very little advertising for the Fortwo. I am totally in love with mine and out of the 30+ cars I have owned in my 60 years on this earth I love the Smart more than all of them. Heck if I can get the drivers seat to recline I might well try to be buried on mine Lol. Loved your video !
@johnmullarky
@johnmullarky Рік тому
Very enjoyable and honest review. Like many I wasn't too enamoured with these when they first came. Now I think they are simply incredibly sensible. I had a 75bhp VW Lupo which was also a brilliant package.
@brucewayne5342
@brucewayne5342 Рік тому
I used to own a first gen as my first car. The only way i can describe them is 50/50. There are some genius decisions that went in the car that i think make them severely underrated and some that make me hesitant to even recommend trying one. The simplicity in design and size make it an awesome car to learn your way around driving and owning a car. Doing anything in a city with them is an absolute joy bc your car will fit in basically any space and visibility (especially with the sunroof) is second to none. I think the decision for the gearbox to be automated was to make city driving comfortable and a non-issue for non-car people that are not into engaging clutches all the time while keeping the fuel economy benefits of choosing gears yourself. The idea was sound! However, its one of the cars biggest shortcomings, as everyone always points out about them. Shifts are lazy, wonky and sometimes it plain doesnt work for reasons only the car gods will know. Same thing for the electronics. In my two years of owning one i met so many gremlins i cant even remember all of them. My absolute favourite was one i encountered on ALL 4 smart cars i ever drove. There was an issue where if you put in your key the wrong way around (as in a different side as would face you normally) the car would simply not start or stall on you in the middle of the road within a few minutes. So after a while troubleshooting issues always startet with taking out the key and turning it around. I genuinely think the EV-Smart i drove once is probably one of the best cars on the market for people that live in or around cities because it gets rid of so many issues the ICE versions have. PS: The lower boot lid can comfortably be sat on and will take the weight ;) Spent nights sitting on it with my then girlfiriend while parked on a hill overlooking the lake where i used to grow up.
@djgate
@djgate 11 місяців тому
Wow, the key in the wrong way! Through the years i've owned seven Smarts and never experienced that, I must be doing something wrong!
@byronreeves2455
@byronreeves2455 11 місяців тому
I think that's a pretty accurate description of owning a smart! Btw as far as the automated shifting goes I think it's dumb it should be a option or make a kit to be a full manual! And the lazy shifts on mine I'd half to do a hard reset on it (by connecting the pos and the neg battery terminals together draining all the capacitors) I think it must have something to do with the computer remembering your driving habits every once in awhile it just needs to be set back to the factory setting right now I'm in a dilemma with mine my wife lost the only key we had and it cost 500 to have one made I have to mail it off to a place that you see you and the Sam unit and they'll make me a key I sent it off and they sent it back and it's still flashing the immobilizer symbol on the I can't find any local locksmith that has the programs to do the keys other than that it's kind of a fun little car especially when you turn the traction control off and drive it in the snow
@brucewayne5342
@brucewayne5342 11 місяців тому
@@djgate i'd say you're probably doing something right if it doesn't happen to you 😅
@philthewriter
@philthewriter Рік тому
I don't generally watch your videos as not a fan of the style, but hats off for this one - think you've nailed it. Have owned all manner of sports cars, love our 450 every bit as much as track day toys like the Elise. Flawed, but 20 years ahead of its time with some great engineering, if not build quality. Have also been told I'm not a car enthusiast because I appreciate them. I can live with that.
@captgutter
@captgutter Рік тому
Great review. My 17yo Daughter is about to start driving lessons and I suggested getting one to share so she can practice. Of course, her 17yo reaction was very much like yours lol.
@pierrebuffiere5923
@pierrebuffiere5923 5 місяців тому
I had one of the first models, a diesel, and I loved it. I drove it for about 120 thousand km with no trouble. It took me from Hamburg to Seville and back, to the Pyrennees and across to the UK several times. Autobahn cruising speed 120kmh. They are known to use oil after about 70000km, but mine didn't use a drop, possibly because I changed the oil on schedule. My fuel consumption was about 3 - 3,5 l/100km . I once tried crossing the Pyrenees in snow. I passed all the rear-wheel drive cars before finally coming to a halt. Only FWD vehicles got further. I had a towbar fitted and could tow 360kg unbraked (40kg less than a Suzuki Jimny.) My wife also had one and also loved it. Great for driving into Hamburg and no parking problems. She too drove to the UK several times. No problems whatsoever.
@rondapetrie4780
@rondapetrie4780 10 місяців тому
😊 I've driven all sorts of cars,trucks for work. Got my bike license as soon as I reached 16 & 9 months. I retired March 2022 & bought a second hand Smart 2011. I love it❤ Smile every time I drive it or see it in a car park. If I had more $$$ I'd buy more Smarts.
@paulmoffat9306
@paulmoffat9306 11 місяців тому
When a local dealer first put up his ad banner for this car, I thought 'That is a really Low Price', then I noticed the MSRP in much smaller lettering. The big banner price was just their discount!
@mli3793
@mli3793 9 місяців тому
For me, the panels being easy to take off has been a HUGE win for my smart. It's so easy to maintain and service. It's the absolute best DIY car I've ever seen.
@guyandre4946
@guyandre4946 Рік тому
We had one because it was the only car that fit in the garage behind my Bentley Mulsanne 😊 Coincidence is that only this afternoon I was changing the Smart belt that was slipping out! Noticed it because it didn’t want to start … had to remove the back wheel to access the tensioner … not too bad really 😃
@philthewriter
@philthewriter 11 місяців тому
"Not too bad really" - wait until you need to change the starter motor!!
@guyandre4946
@guyandre4946 11 місяців тому
@@philthewriter Already there and the one I was sold by Smart doesn’t fit !
@philthewriter
@philthewriter 11 місяців тому
@@guyandre4946 Aah bugger. Eurocarparts or similar instead?
@guyandre4946
@guyandre4946 11 місяців тому
@@philthewriter they don’t seem to have the part in stock or are not interested it seems. Even when I provide all the necessary references, vin , engine numbers etc they come out with different parts that do not look at all like the ones on the car.
@philthewriter
@philthewriter 11 місяців тому
@@guyandre4946 What a pain. I fitted a £10 second hand replacement to my 452 30,000 miles ago as a stop gap, intending to swap for new when it died. It seems curiously more robust than the rest of the car. How about Autodoc - has been good for parts on my 450 and 452 to date.
@duncanorr5926
@duncanorr5926 Рік тому
My father owned a second gen fortwo and a third gen forfour. The for to was a great car but that third gen REALLY steps it up. Actually really good!
@williamfence566
@williamfence566 Рік тому
Next door neighbour had a brabus version for a few years . Used it to just commute and I don't remember him saying he had any problems. It grew on me after the initial " what's that".
@trefj1369
@trefj1369 Рік тому
I had one, think they are great. Only issue is the slow gearbox, oh and side winds on motorways
@roberttarring8621
@roberttarring8621 Рік тому
Enjoying this channel more and more each time !
@nickwebb9290
@nickwebb9290 Рік тому
Those of us that were serious about our smarts had them remapped etc as well as other mods, wider wheels, suspension, brakes etc (all legal and above board insurance wise) which turned them into enjoyable drives. Ours is twenty one years old now so I think it’s a ‘keeper’ 😁 Great review 👍
@robertkemp622
@robertkemp622 3 місяці тому
A New Englander, north of Boston, Mass, I bought a 2009 used Passion in 2010. It had 2800 miles on it, and I drove it for five years until the electric drive smart came out. I swapped it for a brand new electric Passion, all black, and drove it until mid-winter. I installed a Bosch Level 2 charger at my back door. In a near white-out blizzard with a foot of new snow on the motorway, I decided to pass a giant snow plow which was motoring along at about 25 mph. The plow driver decided to move to the center of the road just as my smart reached his front bumper. The gigantic plow flipped my little car into a triple spin, sending it hard into the opposite guard rail. I was unharmed, crashing at 40 mph, but the car was totaled. The plow driver stopped and came running back, asking if I was OK. "Unharmed," I responded. "That's one tough little car," the plow driver said. After driving a Nissan for a month in the interim, I got my new car: a black and white electric Passion. That was in February 2017, and it's the car I drive today with over 66,000 miles on it, and I've only had to replace tires once. Nothing else. If I need to drive a hundred miles or more, I rent a car for the day (or week). I'm always insulted when I have to visit a petrol station to fill and return the rental car.
@m3photo726
@m3photo726 Рік тому
Had all three: 450 61hp, 451 84hp remapped to 112hp with 30% more torque, enormous fun overtaking GTIs. Finally the newest 453, the last petrol version to be made before they went electric. 90hp, much better sorted and finally a decent paddle shifted box, better suspension etc. with the tightest turning circle of them all, you’d love to try one of these out. I’d even bet you’d buy one …
@patrickodwyer3085
@patrickodwyer3085 Рік тому
Awesome cars. Have had some much more exotic cars but still love these cars. People who see these cars seem to really like them too. Unrefined, but lots of fun to drive. Love the 3 cylinder engine 😊
@keithreynolds
@keithreynolds 11 місяців тому
I had an 06 cabrio Brabus model. It looked great, sounded great and was a hoot to drive. Excellent quality, best seats I’ve ever had.
@jonathanthorpe1653
@jonathanthorpe1653 Рік тому
I have had my 450 passion since 2004. It now has 42k on the clock. It’s been really reliable and I have not many problems. The biggest was when the gear box selection motor failed. Replacement was straight forward but getting someone to celibate it was difficult. I ended taking it to a remapping company to get set up. The other main problem was water leaking into the cabin. Replacement of the door seals and sealing the rear windows cured the problem. Overall it’s been a pleasure to own and I don’t have any plans to change it.
@costa2984
@costa2984 8 місяців тому
these are marvelous little cars. I have the EV and I absolutely Love it. Totally free for me to ride around, zero maintenance apart from the wheels
@terry81965
@terry81965 6 місяців тому
I have one in America, the first shipment “fresh off the boat “, to Phoenix Arizona in 2007. I still have it, 15 years later. Still looks new, runs better than ever. I love it!
@furryhenry
@furryhenry 11 місяців тому
I had mine for 2 years, I loved it , even went to the middle of France in it, no problem. Mine was the first generation model, same colour as above, you could change the colour for £250 if required. It handled very well. First seen one in Greece on the back of a camper van, had to have one after speaking to the owner. Bought mine from a local dealer who was selling them for £6000 new !
@HirooKoslov
@HirooKoslov Рік тому
I've heard from a work colleague that widening the track and fitting thicker tyres massively improves the sportiness of one of those. Apparently it's a common mod.
@michaeldelaine
@michaeldelaine Рік тому
Thnks for for your Smart fo Two review. I had a Smart for Four manual diesel, first generation, couple of years ago and I was very happy with it. The only real downside was the annual road tax, which was considerably higher for the diesel than for the petrol version, to compensate for diesel being cheaper at the pump; the breakeven point was 16,000 km a year (I was doing about 10,000 km a year, making it unnecessarily uneconomical). And when my daughter gave birth to twins, it didn't have room for what we had to carry. So, regrettably. I had to change it. But would I have one again? Yes, if it's petrol or electric.
@lanorc
@lanorc 11 місяців тому
i bought one with 142k on the clock. now has 180 within a year. This really does 90% of my travels and is actually a beast of a car. Always parking. Always compliments on how i can park always. Always cheap to drive. Easy to repair (everything is accessible). It is true and agree that the car was ahead of its time. During the time this car came out, my parents bough an S class. things were cheaper to run. But now, this car is worth all its fun. While my friend drives a Vanquish F1, i am quite happy with the little boy and it is just very fun to have.
@oliverbergfeld1606
@oliverbergfeld1606 11 місяців тому
Had mine as a winter car for 3 years in the City and loved it. Perfect for Urban space and City hopping - as long as the trip is not much more than 100km. Why, mine was a convertible and thus quite noisy
@MartyMcFlyer
@MartyMcFlyer 11 місяців тому
The Smart Car is and was a great little car. Ask any owner and they'll tell you they love them - especially the convertible one.
@per-johanahlstrom7993
@per-johanahlstrom7993 11 місяців тому
Lovely review! I too own one but with paddle gears! You are spot on that they are small wounderful pieces of engineering!
@waynehumphreys2270
@waynehumphreys2270 Рік тому
My wife has had a couple of smarts a original 600 and a later 1ltr had the 600 mapped and had around 80-85hp that made it very entertaining I think of my self as a petrol head and they are my guilty pleasure I love them
@soniabarros8586
@soniabarros8586 9 місяців тому
I owe smart forfour since 2006 Edit: the car u review was the one i wanted to use
@cafe405
@cafe405 Рік тому
I quite like the Smart Roadster. Yes, the gearbox is slower than an Alabama school kid, but it's a pretty cool idea.
@alexeveryman5080
@alexeveryman5080 11 місяців тому
Had one as courtesy car, had quite a fun with it. Small, nimble, well build and with fun to you use sequential gearbox.
@merc7paul
@merc7paul Рік тому
The newer smart car improved on that gear box by miles, they had a car share service years ago which ended unfortunately and it was really fun driving them around
@hunchanchoc8418
@hunchanchoc8418 Рік тому
Funnily enough, I was behind a 10 reg facelift DIESEL today. At least, Eurocarparts reckons it is still a diesel. I don't know if it had been tweaked, but it was two-up, and went like stink, including very flatly round some extremely switchback corners: Its narrowness and shortness helped here - the corners are SO sharp that an Astra-length car simply couldn't have got round them in that fashion and would have been left for dead. I was so intrigued that I went and checked them out on Autotrader: The facelift diesel apparently has 55 BHP, is insurance group 4, road tax is zero, officially does over 83 MPG, but is only Euro5. And like you say, less than 3 grand. It would indeed suffice for over 70% of my journeys, but I do need 3 seats and more luggage space occasionally. And probably more importantly, the roads here are really really really terrible - it's nearly all potholes and speed bumps. So much so, that I'm searching for a Renault 4... :-/
@ericcarabetta1161
@ericcarabetta1161 Рік тому
I first saw these and fell in love with them when I visited Europe over 20 years ago.
@tommyolsen8224
@tommyolsen8224 Рік тому
We have own 10 of this! BIG fan 😍😍 Great and fun cars!
@Gezira
@Gezira 10 місяців тому
By now my Fortwo CDI Passion is more or less 20 years old, I love it. It's not snappy or fast but I don't have to race with it, it's fun, light, uses very little fuel and has been quite reliable. The fact of living in a densely populated city contributed to the choice, but occasionally with my partner we also went on vacation by the sea or in the mountains with it, with satisfaction.
@johnbillington1012
@johnbillington1012 2 місяці тому
I had a smart in 98 and was a right hand drive, bought from a small importer dealer in Colne Lancashire. It was a brilliant little car, merc came along and took over the smart range. Biggest problem I had at the time was when parked every time I came out to get in it was a crowd of ppl stood around it looking at it, then came the questions haha. It was one of the first 10 in the uk
@messerschmittsreaver
@messerschmittsreaver Рік тому
It would make sense to review this Smart in a packed city and not in the countryside
@darrylwebb3625
@darrylwebb3625 Рік тому
These have always intrigued me, though I've never had the chance of a drive. Keen to see what you make of a Roadster.
@djgate
@djgate 11 місяців тому
Not trying to be unkind but believe he would find it hard to fit in the roadster.
@jeremymillette5722
@jeremymillette5722 Рік тому
Hello! I have a 2006 smart cdi, living in Canada. Takes a long time to warm up in the winter, but I can confirm I did not freeze to death in a smart car
@petervharris
@petervharris 6 місяців тому
Rubbish Headline - we have had two Smart ForTwo's during the last 20 years, and they are excellent. Just what we needed. Still using the second one, and very happy with it.
@mc2w
@mc2w Рік тому
definitely looking forward to the smart roadster review!!
@Koulis_
@Koulis_ 11 місяців тому
These are highly modifiable and I did that with mine. After owning a Roadster I got one of these, a convertible in funky Scratch Black. It's amazing what fatter tyres, lowering, induction, an Italian racing series Bonalume clutch, remap, Brabus cam, stronger discs, sports exhaust and countless other tweaks make to the driving experience. The noise is addictive and the handling becomes go cart like. Of course the speed is shocking to other road users with the light weight and close to 120bhp. The most fun I ever had in a car and a good learning experience on how to sympathetically modify a car.
@confuzzius
@confuzzius 6 місяців тому
Always been a fan, but never practical until now. So, just bought one of these (2006 cabrio, 113,500km) for the 17km a day school runs. Almost thought I got a lemon, then found the intercooler pipe to the engine intake was not properly connected. Took me an hour, some swearing and copious amounts of sweat to get it done, but boy, what a difference! Keeping the JEEP Grand Cherokee for long distance (like scuba diving holidays in Mozambique) and the odd mining site (my customer base).
@McBenjiBoo
@McBenjiBoo 11 місяців тому
You will love the Roadster. Make sure it has flappy paddles, and only drive it in 'manual'. I've had mine for 2 years now and it still puts a smile on my face every day.
@legokubik1104
@legokubik1104 9 місяців тому
Hello. I am 184cm., 165kg., and I am driving Smart Roadster Brabus. This car is a pure joy 😊. Please, make a video about it 🙏
@deanbarnette1602
@deanbarnette1602 3 місяці тому
I came across your video clip tonight by accident, and I've quite enjoyed it. The one that you're driving I actually like, and I'm not a fan of the smart cars, so thank you!! 🙂💯
@narrowgauge7.25
@narrowgauge7.25 Рік тому
WE do have one our third it is perfect as a second car for the shopping and not too far off trips. Ideally we would have an electric one although we don't have home charging option where the Smart lives. The gearbox is fine once you get to know it and my wife will only drive an 'auto'. They are now over priced
@MacBob
@MacBob Рік тому
Nearly bought one of these as a commuter car back in 2001. Decided to go with a Lupo instead and still glad i did!
@pjrebordao
@pjrebordao Рік тому
If you liked this one, you should try the Roadster ! Probably the best fun for the buck, especially with a moderate remap.
@ricolasroc5890
@ricolasroc5890 Рік тому
Excellent, thoughtful, and revealing video.
@fran_terry
@fran_terry Рік тому
Jay, if you wish to try a roadster and a crossblade, I have the largest collection of smarts in the UK
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Рік тому
Email me on talk@jayemm.com - I'd love to try both!
@ljhm6816
@ljhm6816 11 місяців тому
Great shot of the robin reliant with all the smoke coming out of it 😂😂, and the picture stays on the screen for age's 🤣🤣🤣
@jean-emmanuelrotzetter6030
@jean-emmanuelrotzetter6030 11 місяців тому
The car was not really the result of a "collaboration between Mercedes-Benz and Swatch, the watch manufacturer". Nicolas Hayek - at the origin of the watch company - wanted a small car, his team had developed a hybrid car, or at least most of the key elements. Swatch was looking for a production partner, Volkswagen had refused. Daimler AG accepted, mainly for having a small car to reduce the average gas and diesel consumption of its fleet (and so avoid EU financial sanctions). But outside a few design elements, Daimler did not implement any technical feature of the car developed by Smart. By the way: Swatch Group has now some 17 watch trade marks, the most expensive watches made by the group are in a 400'000 USD price range ..... .
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