It's funny that it was barely mentioned anywhere in the game lore but it is extremely important in the show.

@@5-Volt it may be because Shimmer become Chemtech later so it just changed names

@@rezasevenson6026 didn't the undercity run on chemtech before silco took over? At least the arcade the kids used to hide in was chem-powered, right?

@@raxzen-1610 I"m pretty sure it's been stated that chem-tech is a stronger, more volatile form made from hex-tech. and in the series, we literally see jayce and viktor inventing hextech after the arcade scene, so I would assume not.

Its also mentioned once in the Janna Color Story as well. Mentioned in one sentence where its even hinted as being dealt like a drug. So its been mentioned twice then

They can just keep it a separate thing for now to keep all the freedom they need, and 10-15 years from now, when the animated show will have covered most of the regions and champions, they can turn it into the cannon lore.

@@Nata-ch2bk Potentially, I personally would like to see some aspects of the Arcane lore be put into the canon lore simply because it either fills in blanks or provides a generally better version of events such as the relationship between Jayce and Viktor.

@@theheavenlyfb4071 Yeah I'd love for the current lore to be updated as soon as possible, but it's not simple. I'm going to copy paste here what I wrote in another comment thread : If they want to make Arcane story cannon, they will literally have to erase all the Arcane characters' current biographies from the website and re-write them from scratch. That means : Vi, Jinx, Ekko, Caitlyn, Viktor, Jayce and Heimerdinger's stories. At this point they can't just change a few lines, they need to rewrite them completely to fit exactly what we see in Arcane. That's probably why they're not doing it yet, they wait till season 2 is out so they actually have the full stories to write.

Aye, some of the coolest stuff for me was how they linked singed about - cannonising and leaving elements open will be tricky but we'll see >.

I really hope ekko and victor get more fleshed out as they are the only two characters I'm worried will have completely different storylines than the lore.....and victors story is too good man :D

i don't play the game but i think people just want their origin stories to be updated to what's shown in the show. that's reasonable and i have to agree honestly

@@chaaaargh yeah like jayce/viktor, vi and jinx stories deviate a bit from canon but their origins are so meticulously told its ridiculously good and should be the new canon. In the games the lore is more vague and certain things dont add up with the show, like jayce and viktor never being friends but colleagues. Arcanes writing doesnt break any characters intruige or backstory but it enhances them so much, so most people just want LOL to update around arcane for specifically the 9 champions

@@uzairahmed4197 Lore is supposed to be vague. It's a framework for writing stories, not a story itself.

@@jacobnorris8256 yeah true but thats why the show shouldnt completely adhere to the lore and pave its own path

@@jacobnorris8256 The point is its not vague because the "story team at Riot" wanted it that way. But because upper managment loves to fuck around as they have no idear/give zero shits about the story stuff (Yet their very passionate & competent story/art team does) we have several vauge or almost empty lore descritpions for champions. Greatest example. Seraphina a riot upper managment idear/order that flopped so hard/had huge backlash from the community because of how much it was just a hypermarketed Champions sole focus to sell a skinseries. Everything that fails story wise is because upper managments pushed for more marketing/puplicity stunts for Skin sales. VS Grand Storytelling/building the art/story team did with all the Shadow Isle characters or the current Void storys. Its very clear why Ruined King was a dumpster fire. Not because of the teams who worked on it but because upper management always fucks these things up. Its ironic that Riot the company is so out of touch with their own product yet the lower level peps who work for them understand LoL so well yet dont have the power to go against upper corp managment. I am suprised how upper managment didnt fuck up Arcane with some kind of skin series advertisement. Oh wait wanna know what else they did? The french animation studio they tasked with the show was severaly underpaid. That several people from it spoke up about it that while they are glad their work is liked by the community/viewers they are left with a bitter aftertaste as Riot treated them in their partnership like trash. For all we know Arcane at this point is more cannon than the lurkwarm lore describtions of all the Piltover/Zaun related chars we have because in Arcane you can literally see the potantial & competence the Art/Storyboard team of Riot has in them only held back by the greed & incompetence of Riots Corp upper Managments

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100% agreed. It’s also really cool from the perspective of someone who has played LoL and knows these characters. It’s amazing to go ”oh hey, I know that guy” and it gets me excited to see more of them actually being alive and interacting with each other.

its only season 1 im excited for 2

Everything is connected too!

Dont take Riots words for it rather keep always that perspective in mind. Arcane is what LoL could be aka is the potential/competence the storboard/art/championcreation team has in them. That is if they arent held back by Corp upper management to force rewritte stuff in order to sell skin series. The reason we have shitty or fractured lore isnt because the story/art team sucks. But because Upper Riot Managments keeps pushing their agenda/stupid things that fuckes everything up. They are so out of touch with their own product yet what keeps them aflot are the glimpes & waves of competence of the lower workforce who sometimes can get their wishes/projects trough the storm withouth corparte machine fucking them in the knee.

Well, I don't think they will go this far. There are quite some differences, but the majority is more or less the same. And they are even reworking some of the Character Backgrounds to fit a bit more. To be clear: Runeterra has a major story, but the single characters have no really stiff canon. They change every year the backstories of so many champions slightly to fit a bit more in the "new" landscape of the major story. And with tons of short stories and some comics they tell interesting stories, that sometimes do not 100% fit together, but help to get the larger picture of the character. I hope they don't make it an alternate reality, but more of a story thats still loose connected with the "original world" and they will update this world so both fit more or less together (just how they do it with the short stories) And to be clear: the "shitty or fractured lore" at some parts is (with a few exceptions) not really the managments fault I think. Runeterra and its characters never had a real story at the beginning. Just dozens of separated characters with their own background. And since ~5 years they slowly tie all these loose ends together and merge them into one "world story". But this takes time. And the stories they rework are often really well done after this.

Indeed. With Arcane finding a mainstream audience who know nothing of the game, and Jinx set up to be the main antagonist for season 2 and possibly beyond, people are going to expect her to either die or be redeemed at at some point before the series comes to a conclusion (however many seasons later that ends up being). With how we saw her as this sweet lovable child for several episodes, people are going to want (and expect) for her arc to come to some sort of conclusion and bring closure. That's going to be neccesary for the show, even though it would be completely antithetical to the game.

Where? Also if its not canon, why is there mentions of jinx and vi being sisters through interactions in league?

@@MistyKathrine I can live with that if they can pull off a decent "Darth Vader" redemption style thing.

It Kind like Reboot the Universe base on LOL so it a Good Thing Arcane is a starting point of new LOL Universe Project L story should be in it own Universe too not base on Core Univere or Arcane Universe

Yeah, at first I was thiking Arcane should be made cannon. But after reading a few comments that made a similar point as yours, I now think that Arcane should be its own thing completely. And maybe 15 years from now they can turn it into cannon when the series will have covered all the areas and most of the champions.

I'm on the other side. Arcane started my interest for the League of Legends world and since then youtube basically recommends me only video that tell me how much of a shit company riot games is that only cares about creating new sexy male/female champions since they sell better than monsters/unique heroes and the management gives a shit about the actual lore. This hyped up ruined king villain, as an example, looks like cheap fanservice e-boy for otaku girls/gays. I honestly don't find the world of LoL that unique after diving into LoL lore. Arcane took this setting and made it awesome but if it isn't canon, why should I even bother with the rest of the Runterra universe? Riot Games management doesn't seem to think that lore is important if I believe several LoL UKpostsrs.

@@Wurstbrot03 Well, Arcane does use the universe, the regions, parts of the character stories etc... that already exist in the lore. It's just that they can't use everything to the letter because the website stories were not designed to mix with one another in a bigger scale storyline that includes multiple characters. So unless they literally re-write all the stories of the characters in Arcane on the website, Arcane will have to be its own thing for now. But you can still learn about what kind of other regions, characters etc we will possibly get in the future by looking at the website. You just have to be conscious the details of the character storylines themselves will most likely be adjusted when they adapt it to an Arcane season.

@@user-nu8vw1ow4n no lmao. thats why lore channels exist. whats the point of books and all the stories if they are all pointless lmao

I'm in agreement with you. I really hated jayces and viktors old kore

Nope. I don't like the way they're going with Viktor. Been maining him since 2015 so my opinion should count for something right?

@@waidwml8443 Yes, but not because you've mained him for years. Every opinion counts no matter if theyre negative or positive. But, its also important to be able to recognize when changes made on characters or plotlines are healthy or not for the setting as a whole. In my opinion, ingame Viktor is borderline cartoonish with how zealous he is. Arcane Viktor actually feels like a human being with very relatable motivations.

@@dreamchaser3012 His *updated* story and his ingame interactions doesn't actually match with each other and that's why so many people think of him as a cartoon villain like yourself. Sadly you have to invest and read his bio, short-story to get a glimpse of his glorious actual self.

@@waidwml8443 it's ok if you don't like it, your opinion counts, but that doesn't mean you are right. It doesn't matter if you've been maining him for 6 years. There are no rights or wrongs in this kind of things, just opinions. Personally I couldn't care less. I loved his interaction with Jayce. I was expecting Viktor to be an asshole and they really surprised me with how he is in the show.

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I always got that vibe anyway. the implications (though brief and limited) of lore in the actual characters in the game itself are very slightly tweaked from their stories on the universe page or even between stories in the universe page, which in turn are slightly tweaked from how the characters are presented in Legends of Runeterra. I mean Legends of Runeterra, it seems like every other person is a mage or has magical capabilities, meanwhile in Arcane it almost feels like mages are a myth or are damn near extinct. Nothing wrong with it, and I agree I like it, makes things easier to tell the stories you want. Probably only really upsets lore nerds who have tried to somehow piece it together for years for some reason. Wait, shit...

Ye but then you get stuff like the ruined king event....

Did he not die on the bridge? I don't recall

@@jimmyredd I ain't gonna say much except: Nah, he ain't ded

I thought he can only rewind 6 to 12 seconds inlore at most? Unless he mets Zilean i dont think he can overcome that limit.

@@MonoReaper Oh is that the case? My b I don't really play LoL, I just deep-dive the lore

Arcane!Ekko is pretty forward-thinking. And him not being able to “deliver the final blow” to Jinx after he beats her is honestly only human. She’s his enemy, but they still had a shared past, so of course he still cares about her. (He’s still going to fight her until she’s subdued, but actually killing after that may be “smart” but it’s not heroic. It’s more conscious than simply killing in the moment.) I think it’s more likely that arcane!Ekko tries to make his z-drive(right term? I’m arcane not LoL) to go *forward* in time, then realizes it’s easier to *reverse* time and gives him basically the same effect: ie, prediction, protection. And Ekko’s, well. The Boy Savior

While I agree to an extent, it does consequently make the world of League of Legends as a whole a little smaller. Vander clears the mystique of Warwick, the cute insanity of Jinx becomes humanized and less “flamboyant” without being sad, Jayce’s “righteousness” becomes a little less glamorous, etc etc etc. It’s inevitable in order to saturate the lore of things, you must sacrifice an individuals imagination, but it is substituted with a fantastic story, so it does get a pass.

@@MrGoomakoo I disagree if anything they are exaggerated and even more complex, we have more information on who they are and the relationships actually make sense rather than being empty with random characters that no one cares about.

@@MrGoomakoo shut up.

@@marchoo9849 bro it’s ok to have people who disagree with you, they aren’t your enemy and you aren’t a warrior. Stop the larp and just act like a civilized human being rather than gutter trash.

@@MrGoomakoo Everything you just said just makes it sound like you don't like complex lore

I think Blitz is trying to warn the people of its end

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@@imanidiot1725 Humanity's end at the hands of NUNU BOT!

blitzcrank was developed to help people but designed to help himself. He legit grabs asses to pull em to the squad so they can have their way. Everytime i think of blitz crank i think of downbad guy sweating in a bush rubbing his hands together.

He made a Skynet reference, lel

It's canon for runeterra at least.

Arcane is the official canon! It's the game that's wrong! Change my mind.

@@MistyKathrine Don't want to change it. It's also my official canon. Don't care what others say.

@@MistyKathrine Not like the game story exists way, way before the Arcane story. Let’s ignore the truth that Arcane without LOL would’ve never existed, but LOL without Arcane, would still exist😂😂😂 The mind of some people😂😂😂

No it's not

I agree with this 100% arcane is its own medium, the idea of "cannon" is overblown and overall hurts things IMO. Each thing is their own story, if the story is good than awesome! If its bad then its bad, it doesnt matter if it matches OG "cannon" its just about the quality of story being shown

Some I agree some I don’t , I don’t like the change of Viktor and Ekko story it make their story seem weaker in my eye, it also delete cammile and Zigg and half of the plot in PnZ especially after zigg got his color. By the way cammile is 80s confirm by her writer, take away her gilf is a cruel. I also don’t like tie the void into PnZ plot. The other story like Jayce, Vi, jinx and heimer is better I agree. Cait is fine.

@@78konjo True. If something should be canon it's the tv-series, there are just so many more possibilities for good story-telling.

Like ekko relationship with his parents and Arjuna is one of the beautiful thing we lack in the lore ZAC use too have to but they retcon him. Viktor do everything not for himself but for human also make him a more respectable character.

I would like they take the good things from arcane like Silco jinx and Vi plot may be add Caitlyn and Jayce but not including change in ekko or the void part because lack of these 2 is not that bad, ekko can tie to Heimer and no need to change Viktor and Stanwick, change heimer character in arcane to stanwick. Take the good think in rewrite the story.

Oh yeah...and Ekko might get visited by the -TVA- Zilean after

Dude! That would be such a good episode!

I think Zilean is the reason he can't time travel too far.

I thought the pocket watch was a Z Drive.

@@pretends2know It's not, but it's basically foreshadowing for the Z-drive. Time-obsessed kid creates something that lets him rewind time. Fits perfectly. If the pocket watch was the Z-drive then he wouldn't have lost so many gang members to Jinx at the start. He'd rewind even thousands of times to get it right.

I agree with you a 100 percent. But they also cant write down a big part because it will be a spoiler for upcoming seasons(I think Necrit mentioned it a few videos ago). Maybe re-write some of the story that is to this moment in Arcane? Like an update or something. Either way the lore should be updated and we might get the depth we need, for the as you said ''isolated stories'' and make the connection in between.

And it makes sense why riot are hesitant to change the canon lore, it gives them exactly this creative freedom

@@Dian_Borisov_SW Exactly maybe in a few more seasons time we might get an updated lore including the Arcane one in it. But until that I will just enjoy the show and what it has to give. Cheers

@@user-ms4wy4pj9c Съмнява ме да има продължение на втория сезон, но никога не знаеш

@@Dian_Borisov_SW Е те официално го обявиха че е в продукция втория, но мисля че ще го продължат все пак това им е голям бонус, а и бая пари ще вземат.

Yesn't, more n't then Ye really. It once was Canon when League was New and the Lore was still figuring its way out. Long Story short "Summoners" summoned the Champions of Old in Order to settle Politics in the "Fields of Justice" (which are now simply called Maps) Because if they'd start another Rune War the world would fall apart, so yeah. Even Lorewise Summoners had Lore with 3 Arch-Summoners etc. now its all old forgotten and mostly overseen because who needs it really.

it used to be canon yeah, it was a whole organization and the champions even used to talk to the player in game as "Summoner" but some years back they retconned that lore to have more creative freedom

fuck that, what the hell a being like aurelion sol doing in summoner's rift? he could literally destroy a galaxy with a flick of his wrist

@@vitocorleone2413 LOOK HOW DEY MASSACRED MAH BOY

No

The entire retelling, really. All the characters feel real. They have motivations and aspirations, stuff doesn't go exactly the way they (or we) want... and all of them have flaws. Arcane has a lot of grey. Vander was a good guy but in his past he obviously wasn't. Even Silco, while a dangerous and manipulative druglord, wants Zaun to be free of the yoke of Piltover and loves Jinx even as he's using her. Vi wants to protect her family and find her sister but Vi is also the reason Powder ends up with Silco in the first place and helps create Jinx. Ekko is undoubtedly good as he creates a safe haven for cast offs but his stubborness helps prevent Vi from reaching Powder before she is entirely lost. Jayce and Viktor both start out wanting to help people and often drag themselves into morally questionable territory to keep trying. I agree that Arcane pretty much nailed how to make fairly one dimensional characters (in most cases) from a battle arena game into deeply compelling actual people.

I never see people hate good looking things in my life, man y'all sad

@@ratedr7845 I mean... Cait is good looking in Arcane still so we aren't hating on good looking things. The LoL character art is very... male audience attuned? The ladies are all classic broke-back comic style. Fakey. I like that the characters in Arcane look and move more real. It makes them more good looking to me.

@@aliebrubaker7473 it's not a bad thing to be more male oriented

@@ratedr7845 i don't mean to be rude but for literal CENTURIES, almost everything in the world has been male-oriented. women are viewed as objects and have to follow a strict criteria in order to be viewed pretty. and i think in the og league lore, that kind of criteria is perpetuated and marketed to men - proof: caitlyn, vi (who is supposed to be really strong since she literally punches through rocks using her heavy ass gauntlets but she doesn't seem to have any muscles to support the weight of her gauntlets in the game), miss fortune, evelynn, kai'sa, etc etc. and idk about you but as a woman, i'd rather be presented and viewed like "arcane caitlyn" rather than "league caitlyn" because arcane caitlyn is actually written and presented as an actual human being whose main priority isn't to just look pretty, but to have actual substance, struggles, motivation, character and personality rather than just being a pretty to sight to look at, while still being VERY gorgeous and attractive. and also, it seems to me like you haven't heard of the term "the male gaze" and all its harmful impacts on society's rigid standards for women. that's what i meant when i discussed "league caitlyn". and i'm really glad that arcane chose a different path than the "male-oriented" route. now don't think i'm mad or what. i'm just saying man. maybe things don't always have to be male-oriented.

yes!!

I agree brothuh!

Yeah, current lore is just a bunch of stories and biographies that have been added up in the span of many years, and there can easily be inconsistencies or just stuff that simply isn't well written in correlation with the other stories and characters. Everytime they added a new champions, they had to patch up stuff and they weren't all thought out as whole from the get go. In opposition to that, the Arcane story took them much more time and work to produce and just does it better, as you said. In conclusion, they need to use the superior material, aka Arcane story, as cannon and retcon everything that needs to be retconned from the current website lore. edit : But to be honest even if they don't use Arcane as cannon I don't mind as long as Arcane has all the creative freedom it needs to make the greatest series possible.

Aside from Camilles lore, it's literally the best lore ever written for the game, you should read it

I have only 1 big problem with arcane vs canon. In canon, Jinx has done some minor to med crimes and pranks like freeing zoo animals and switching road signs. In Arcane she SHOT S ROCKET ON THE COUNCIL I don't know how Arcane plans to either reduce her crimes or ease the now high tension between Jinx to Vi& Caitlyn

Idk how they would write that into the arcane story and keep the emotions between vi and jink, if vi lost her memory of powder and jinx doesnt care about violets excuses of why she betrayed powder(in jinx's perception of betrayal) when she wanted to help(yes it was overboard but she didnt know) and left powder by herself. They had to go with one or the other and not both and im glad they went with the jinx stopped caring side because she was hurt, instead of the violet stopped caring cause she had amnesia.

Its not its own thing it is official lore and canon riot already confirmed it

they miht be waiting till they finish arcane to rewrite it, as to not spoil anything

I disagree with your third point. Piltover and Zaun might be small compared to other regions, but it isn't empty. I would go as far to say that it is the most dense city on Runeterra given if it's location(Speculation). Interconnectness is great when used sparringly, but if every champion knows every champion kinda makes the world feel small. It's like tying Orianna and Singed together when they have no reason to.

@@meowt8464 They don't really need to spoil anything to rewrite character bios. Jinx and Warwick's bios work pretty well with the events of Arcane so far. They tell us who these characters are in present time, give some cryptic hints about their past, but mostly leave it to revealed elsewhere. They can easily do the same for most if not all of the champions that will be included in future seasons.

they can use this opportunity to rewrite the story of Seraphine cause lets all be honest her bio suck balls

As long as house ferros have augmented camille before before the storyand Azura, the friend of ekko, exists and dies in the story, I with any recon will be good.

I can agree with that

you can say that. but right now the leagure of legends lore/canon has already been established -- it can be edited but it has yet to be.

Thats precisely what makes marvel/DC universes so boring for me. Fiction like this should have an established canon or else every story feels irrelevant because this is just another parallel universe in which all the established lore can be changed o fit the story without any reper,ussion. I hate thatthere is a like 10 versions of Batman and joker, it makes the original plot(whatever that IS atthis point) a lot less unique and impactful.

What about Reboot? For me Arcane was a Reboot And everything Change

Lol, keep coping

@@Vincinate huh?

I 100% agree, I feel like they’re not going to tell us if it’s canon or not until it’s complete since they wouldn’t want to ruin any future changes they make etc by rewriting the canon now

And Jinx Not Were a Bra Outfit anymore like arcane did except she change to it later

They are canonizing it already since they gave Caitlyn a special line for killing Jinx in LoL: "Perhaps Piltover can rest easy without you, Jinx. But, Vi..." (her lines just about Vi don't count, they've been shipped together for a long time ^^).

They already had origin stories.

@@gurentgc3546 aahh ok

But the Arcane One is a way better and more connected, in the actual lore you don't know How the hell Caitlyn meet Vi

@@gurentgc3546 It depends actually. Jayce and Viktor already had backstories and their Arcane version is very different. But for Cait Vi and Jinx, some gaps (like timeskips) were put in the stories and they can EASILY be filled by the new info Arcane gave us

@Tesla-Effect thats so true. i never dreamed I would give a fuck about Jayce or Viktor, and now im so invested in them both. Jayce and his smile right before the mega death rocket hits. actually thinking he had done it. saved both cities.

The stakes become higher if you don't know if they are allowed to kill a character. Making it canon means you know that the main characters live. Imagine the tea party platter scene w/o knowing if Cait was going to live.

That is kinda true actually, hadn't thought about it that way. They can just wait for now and keep it its own separate thing, and later on once they have released like 10 seasons and covered multiple areas of the universe and most champions, they can just make Arcane cannon then.

wait what? thats not a good idea. the reason Arcane is as good as it is is because Riot told them their first version was trash and so they completely restarted from the ground up. to say riot should have no say in arcane is nonsense

They can still kill champs in their shows and they can form the stories around their shows. For example, they can easily change Caits story so it can fit with the Arcane version. Its way better than splittimg the universe in two parts. And like I said they can still kill champs, they just need to make sure its in the past so that every storie they have is still happening. They can kill Jinx off in Arcane if it would make sense lore wise and she can still be a champ in LoL because it doesnt matter if she is alive or not, like some cards from Runterra are about characters who have died.

@@HeroOfJusticeYT The Arcane writers are from Riot. I think he meant to say that the current website lore should not interfer with Arcane writers

You do realize current viktor is the next step and the stories not done right? At the end the hextech core, now tainted by the void, stops supporting his body after he holds the chair up to break it. So once again faced with his mortality and being abandoned by the hexcore the next logical step is for him to start going crazy and start the glorious evolution.

@@asneakypuddle Current Viktor is completely different from what we got from Arcane, the next step logically is of course for him to become the robotic form, but if ones motives are completely different from the other can you really call it the same character?

I know nothing about the game lore and I love ALL the characters in Arcane. Viktor is soo sympathetic to me, Jayce seems like the perfect package of brain and brawn, poor Jinx is so manipulated she can't be salvaged, Vi I connect with most as an older sister to a younger bro with engineering skills, but I understand LoL players wanting Arcane seperate.

@@tentailedYuudai My main problem with Vi in the story is that she really fails to understand Jinx's Trauma and fails to help her in the way she needs. Its beautiful story telling though.

@@asneakypuddle I can understand that but Vi isn't exactly wise enough to deal with Jinx's trauma. Lol that just makes the story more compelling, they feel so human.

I mean, with OG lore, they had a hell of a lot, look at the journals they made weekly, let alone other snippets everywhere. It was really cool, actually, but hard to go through. The problem was they lost track of it all after a while, and some would have to clash with one another, or retcon, so they retconned. I do think they should do more with Arcane, though. The writing was great, and I don't think anyone would complain about retconning some to fit it.

Ikr? I wonder why they like league of legends lore

Probably because league consumes people's sanity and caused a lot of misery

@@srnoice2134 your name haunts me

I think you may have misunderstood what he meant by 'everyone wants Arcane to be canon'. He doesn't mean we (league players) what the show to be 100% faithful to the written lore of the characters and universe. Instead, I believe that he means we would like the lore of the universe to be changed to what Arcane is.

well arcane would work if they didnt make differences on existing lore

I feel like they could always do something like add a new region or keep creating new characters that occupy each other. Because they have already fleshed out the regions of the league world they have a lot of leeway

@@MrAwsomness5 imo we barely now things about regions like Ixtal or things about what Jax is

@Tesla-Effect it's not hurting anything.

@Tesla-Effect strange take, the thing that literally took Riot games from small indie company to billion-dollar company and continues to be it's primary source of income is "actively hurting the IP." Riot is working very hard on changing this, but for the next year or two at least LoL is Riot Games and the rest are side projects. The importance of it is slipping as it is no longer the only thing, but it is still by far the biggest thing.

But we all know Riot usually fuck their shit up on their own

Theyve actually been rewriting some lore and voice lines in the game to fit arcane better

Arcane = cannon Current website lore = needs to be retconned to fit Arcane story Always use the superior material as the cannon story edit : in any case, current lore must never hinder the creativity of the Arcane writers, is what I mostly mean. They should change whatever is needed to make the greatest story possible without ever considering inconsistencies with the website lore.

I got to disagree here

@@Nata-ch2bk It's like nobody even read the website canon tales,I can confidently say that Ryze's and Camille's stories are equal if not better than arcane itself, they just immediately say it's story is better because it looks cool

I mean, they're more than side characters like Heimerdinger or somethin 🤔

Yeah, because if they had made a series with old Warwick, old Swain, old Mordekaiser or the 3 different versions of Shyvanna and have the change that happened with them it wouldn't cause no problem on the series.

Things get a bit easier once you realize rito isn't trying to create a singular, rigid, canonical lore. They're interested in establishing a unique world that serves as a framework in which to tell interesting stories. So long as each story they tell is deeply immersive, it won't matter if it contradicts a previous one. Or in other words. Professional-grade fan fiction.

because this took 6 years to make. do you want lore to be updated every 6 years plus maybe a second season a year later? Imagine if Arcane is a 3 season show that ends the Piltover and Zaun story in like 2023. That's incredibly slow. (Also I doubt that Fortiche will have S2 ready by this time of year in 2022 if thet keep up this level of quality so be ready for every season to take quite a bit lol)

I agree. I don't play league of legends and I have nothing against it. But its story is kind of all over the place. But in arcane the story is actually a lot better.

It's also implied his parents passed away from overworking themselves to give Ekko a better life. Hence why he relives his favorite memory with them over and over again.

@@zetetsu7169 ...Uh. It doesn't? He rewinds the moment just because it was such a rare and nice thing they did getting him a cake. He wanted to savor it. There was nothing that even remotely suggested in the short story that they died that night or later on in the future. (Although I could easily see that happening to them.) Ekko however DOES rewind several times over Ajuna dying in the Chronobreak comic though. Mostly to try and save him. He couldn't though and he proooobably would have ended up using it to beat the living shit out of the Piltie that murdered his friend. But because said Piltie damaged his Z-Drive he couldn't rewind again and had to make a choice...and he chose to spend the last rewind he'd done by being besides a dying Ajuna.

some of it should def be canon but not all of it. it clears up a lot of vague stuff

We dont care what u think. Didnt even read it.

@@marchoo9849 wow so edgy 😒

@@marchoo9849 ......well thats just fucking rude

@@marchoo9849 but you cared enough to type that out and share your own opinion? Lmaaaoooo

@@pearsegallagher9832 no its not.

How they dont want to commit to much to fast if this is a " work of years " ? it's already "done" how can they do to much when it already done ? again " a work of years ".

it would honestly be better if they rewrite Bios to fit the new story of Arcane. the community need to push Riot to make that change. as you say- make them commit to Arcane even more. and nothing spells comitment(in this case) then changing the League Bios into updated Bios according to Arcane.

@@MrGalRoz and lets be fair many of the stories that were changed is very old at this point and many other champions have already been changed so its not like it would break the lore

Hey dude, haven't seen you for a while after I stopped checking AoC forum

@@hasuo9749 Because obviously they want to see how the public reacts to Arcane before they completely change the game lore.

The mutation must survive! I think you're on to something. He's the only Chemtech that is also Mutant and that's because he is the only one that uses shimmer. All the others use Green Chemtech. Therefore Shimmer has turned him "Mutant" which is basically Void

@@ryanworth4502 I really think the green chemtech is the more stable and improved shimmer with less disadvantages. Really excited on the Season 2 of this show.

@@alcatraz14 A german youtuber made videos about arcane theories. One of the theories was that schimmer has some conncection due to the colour which in the lol universe is only connected to the void, and everytime schimmer was shown in the series there was no sound during the scenes which could be some kind of refence to the void.

That would be amazing, I feel like there might be a lot of closure from either vi or jinx dying, like its a matter of time Also warwick

They shouldn't be afraid from killing a champion if everyone survives you get superman problem.

aslong as their core story is taken care off, i think they can get away with killing champions

Isn't League just a pick random people and fight game? Why does it need everyone to be alive?

​@Tesla-Effect Where's is that rule? DOTA 2 killed one of it's heroes just years prior.

What did Riot say, do you have a link?

I was so sad...and confused....when Riot took out Summoners and the Institute of War from the lore yet left voice lines of champions talking directly to the Summoner, still calling them Summoner Spells, referring to the player as "Summoners" like what?

@@Malhaloc that is just fourth wall breaking and the whole work of redoing that.... god you fans sure are obtuse

@@FredMaverik I know what 4th wall breaking is. I'm saying if you're going to remove summoners from the lore, then remove lines like "Think you can handle me, summoner?" It makes no sense anymore.

@@dariusgunter5344 I'm searching for that too. Does anyone has direct riot confirmation or anything about the canonicity about Arcane?

Singed is looking at a picture in the last episode in the last minute or so

@@vulpex4105 Well, doesn't change my point anyway.

​@@jacobnorris8256 Yup i just pointed it out as an FYI: "The only reference we get to Singed's supposed daughter in Arcane is him saying that he used to have one."

oh sure just get rid of their multi million dollar business for L O R E (OmegaLUL)

@@TheSchultzZ You can't milk one thing forever. Blizzard is currently learning that the hard way. The league lore is more like a bunch of cool ideas jumbled together without really telling a compelling story.

@@olishonick people have been milking cows for hundreds of years and they still produce milk your argument is invalid

@@TheSchultzZ That's not even a good comparison lol nice try though

@@olishonick what do you mean? its literally where the milking phrase came from??

That's a perfect way to describe it. Marvel comics are created to be very flexible and have many instances of being rebooted as the lore ages. the MCU is created to tell a very specific intertwined story over a number of years. Arcane is a similar introduction to the world as the original Iron Man, a relatively small story that gets expanded over time.

Doesn't Marvel and DC regularly kill off their current universe and replace it with a new reboot?

@@Wurstbrot03 yes

I more or less agree with you more than any other comment I've seen so far

Feel ya on this bud, going through the same thing. This has blown everything else out of the water to such a degree that I prefer the show over just about all other media. I'm so impressed and none of my friends have seen it yet, reaction videos and reviews are how I'm channeling the extra excitement which sucks to process alone.

Yeah, just be the MCU but good

Ever get that feeling of deja vu?

Why it should be cannon? It is impossible to include all stories and champions from the league's lore. There are many things that are changed that even removes other champions like Camille. Same with marvel as Necrit already said. Both universes are too big for this kind of media. This way everyone is happy. Introducing new fans to the universe, in the process not angering the fans of the original lore.

@@anjapavlovic5157 but you don't need to include everything, arcane could've ended with season 1 and by just making that fragment of the story canon to the main universe you're good to go, I don't think the multiverse approach is good when you're making a story so close to the original one, that's why skin universes exist

@@fuckhead0 If they are going to make Jinx' and Vi's backstory cannon, I am all for it, as there are almost no details to it. Adding some newer stuff or details that won't create any new plot holes is also good. Arcane season 1 story is incredibly good, but making it cannon create lots of problems to the main lore.