The Terminator RTS is the weirdest RTS I've played

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Rimmy Downunder

Rimmy Downunder

2 місяці тому

There's just 3 days left for the plushie, get it while you can: youtooz.com/products/rimmy-do...
Also fair warning, I did receive an early copy of this from Slitherine, but I didn't even end up using it, this was recorded entirely on the game's full release, and clearly (if you've seen to the end) not sponsored by them, haha.
It's crazy because while editing this video, I got the urge to play the game again despite having finished the 5 hours of recording for one mission on the same day. So much of this game is exactly what I love, the army customisation, the fine detailing, the side objectives and interactivity in the missions, all perfect - but that's because my brain blocks out the 4 straight hours of fighting hordes of enemies and then reloading because even though I took out the whole wave, they also destroyed some critical vehicle or caused too many casualities on my guys and I know that the next attack will just completely defeat me. The game has too much trial and error and not enough of a safety harness for when you screw up - in fact, it has zero safety harness. No 'unconcious' state for the men, no medics or replacements, it's either alive or dead.
The loss of combat capability in the teams as the mission goes on is the single biggest cause for this. Especially with infantry teams, the guys who will be taking the brunt of the damage and storming buildings, they always die or become combat ineffective first, and you are unable to combine or replenish them.
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@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
Hey hey, we've got just 3 days left for the plushie, so grab it while you can!: youtooz.com/products/rimmy-downunder-plush-9-inch
@Grounders10
@Grounders10 2 місяці тому
... My brain insists you need to do an SCP Arma scenario when the Plushy escapes containment.
@razelcanukbacon1160
@razelcanukbacon1160 2 місяці тому
So glad you gave this game a try and cool to see stuff that I missed on my first playthrough
@gerhardvancoppenhagen3608
@gerhardvancoppenhagen3608 2 місяці тому
Rimmy I'm sorry to tell you this, but the mission design only gets worse from Tortuga onwards
@comentnine1574
@comentnine1574 2 місяці тому
I saw a play through where the guy was able to salvage the Abrams.
@razelcanukbacon1160
@razelcanukbacon1160 2 місяці тому
I also agree this game can be fricking brutal sometimes
@samuelmccosh1353
@samuelmccosh1353 2 місяці тому
In a franchise so reliant on time travel, save-scumming to get the result you want makes sense.
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
this would be based if they made an actual game mechanic out of it. Unfortunately, long loading screens is not a great gameplay mechanic
@bruhgod123
@bruhgod123 2 місяці тому
thats basically the entire plot of the first movie
@Serzha
@Serzha 2 місяці тому
@@RimmyDownunder while Shadow Gambit is more of a stealth based tactical rpg, that is literally the main mechanic in that game: save, try something out, mess it up entirely and then reload your checkpoint to retry. Super cool but absolutely not for everyone.
@kinghoodofmousekind2906
@kinghoodofmousekind2906 2 місяці тому
The machine may learn at the speed of light, but we have a better form of time-travelling. Save-scumming!
@shadowreaver1851
@shadowreaver1851 2 місяці тому
It's a mainstay of RTS and turn based strategy games. Sometimes I like to try novel strategies that don't have a very high probability of success so saving progress before hand is essential. I aways lose a lot when playing a new game. Some players are fast learners but I never got that gene so I have to Live, Die, and Repeat many many times before I finally reach the Tom Cruise Level.
@iplaygames8090
@iplaygames8090 2 місяці тому
Rimmy gets the human resistence experience (getting railed by a superior foe)
@robloxmaker50
@robloxmaker50 2 місяці тому
Yeah was about to say this , I also think I like this game already it makes sense for the universe (heck terminators coming from the rear/where you spawned in that one mission so far makes sense given that no area is completely secure unless you fortified it at which point just wait till the infiltrators show up in lore then it's no longer secure
@furinick
@furinick 2 місяці тому
Getting railed by a superior foe... mmmmffnngnfnfnnn...,.,.,.,.
@PhoenixT70
@PhoenixT70 2 місяці тому
The fact that he was constantly surprised by how OP Terminators are is funny. I kept thinking “Dude, have you watched the movies? Terminators are OP, that’s their defining characteristic.”
@maximdfd6359
@maximdfd6359 2 місяці тому
Also: Starts Game on hard difficulty: Complains that it is too hard Proceeds to say that game is bad Bro, just lower the difficulty. This is how a „hard“ game looks like. Nowadays it isn’t that big of an accomplishment to end a game on hard but remember world at war or other Cod classics? Imagine playing them on hard. You would also say, that the game is unbalanced and that it should be reworked.
@kylezdancewicz7346
@kylezdancewicz7346 2 місяці тому
@@PhoenixT70the game design is still sucky like, loose a random amount of your unit’s crucial to the mission, spawn your units in the open straight infront of their defenses, take out many op tanks where they one shot your 3 unit’s capable of killing them where your units will take 4 shots and insane complete luck to knock out one.
@BobbyWanKenobi
@BobbyWanKenobi 2 місяці тому
"American Syrian Warfare" That is funny, because when this game was first announced it was being developed by CatsWhoPlay, who made Syrian Warfare, but I guess due to the events of the last two years there were some changes and stopped developing it.
@MrVlad12340
@MrVlad12340 2 місяці тому
I think they just restructured/rebranded.
@iplaygames8090
@iplaygames8090 2 місяці тому
oh ahoj, vás jsem zde nečekal
@phucdinh1020
@phucdinh1020 2 місяці тому
There’s also the original “warfare”game that’s literally about America
@JGenM
@JGenM 2 місяці тому
@@MrVlad12340 That's what I suspect as well because afaik they still promoted the game afterwards on their twitter
@user-db2is9wl5y
@user-db2is9wl5y 2 місяці тому
​@@MrVlad12340 most likely Cats Who Play continued their work in undercover before leaving and finding Russian state money to create a new game about Russia vs USA.
@admiralthrawnbar4899
@admiralthrawnbar4899 2 місяці тому
I have to mention, that mission with all the legion tanks is balanced around having brought the M1 from the previous mission with you. It's out of fuel when you find it but the fuel truck on the same map has just enough fuel to get both itself and the tank to the extraction point. Still a hard mission, but less hard with a tank of your own.
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
it is insane how someone did not think of refulling the tank... like what the fuck?
@wesleyfravel5149
@wesleyfravel5149 2 місяці тому
@@ArlindoBuriti Risk Reward. That SCREAMS trap. If you don't think it worth it to try to get the tank, you will ignore it.
@youraveragescotsman7119
@youraveragescotsman7119 2 місяці тому
@@wesleyfravel5149 It IS a trap, kinda. There are Revs guarding it so you'll lose either Mother or Big Bob if you try to go right for it, but once you kill the Revs it's easy to grab it, drag the fuel truck over, fill it to 100 to get it to the mission exit and then you've got a free tank.
@colbywarren4364
@colbywarren4364 2 місяці тому
huge skill issue to not even attempt to check it out
@tripodranger7873
@tripodranger7873 2 місяці тому
Honestly, that feels like bad design. If the game expects you to grab the tank and balances future missions around that, it should make it a requirement to beat the mission or at least heavily, heavily encourage you to get the tank. It doesn't feel good in any game if you basically lose because you made a mistake way way back but there was no indication it was a mistake at the time. That's bullshit on the level of what King's Quest games would do.
@logantan-c620
@logantan-c620 2 місяці тому
Just from reading the title I am feeling some odd sense of nostalgia, and I miss the Terminator: Salvation gun cabinets now.
@juliusskogman8290
@juliusskogman8290 2 місяці тому
We have one at a local arcade
@pabloteixido2155
@pabloteixido2155 2 місяці тому
Same
@blobfishking6230
@blobfishking6230 2 місяці тому
Ditto
@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel
@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel 2 місяці тому
We had one of those at my local Cinemark when I was younger. Never could get any farther than the opening.
@dylanpanther2829
@dylanpanther2829 2 місяці тому
😮​@@juliusskogman8290
@glitchdrno3450
@glitchdrno3450 2 місяці тому
Unintentionally (maybe) realistic to how humanity does in the Terminator universe
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
realistic is the way you play this game... everyone metters even the militia...
@CyanTeamProductions
@CyanTeamProductions 2 місяці тому
Even in skirmish mode, the resistance gets more stuff but worse pound for pound. Resistance really really relies on ATGM’s
@cristi1145
@cristi1145 2 місяці тому
It’s very intentional. Even your best tank (without upgrades) the abrams can’t go toe to toe with a terminator tank.
@LRC-V3
@LRC-V3 2 місяці тому
realistically the resistance would run out of fuel real fast and that would be it for humankind.
@CyanTeamProductions
@CyanTeamProductions 2 місяці тому
@@LRC-V3 even if they figured out the fuel, no way they could maintain most modern military equipment. But rule of cool
@killer900rocks
@killer900rocks 2 місяці тому
you can tell by the savegame names how much mental torment this game inflicted on poor Rimmy
@mortarion9813
@mortarion9813 2 місяці тому
You know your game's fucked someone when they stop giving their saves funny names and just have several dozen that're just button mashes.
@Wannabeskittle
@Wannabeskittle 2 місяці тому
To be fair he struggled with this one a LOT more than in other videos of this game that I've seen, and similar to Homeworld where your units traverse missions, losing a lot of soldiers in one mission can really deathspiral your campaign here. So he struggled early on and it hurt him very badly later.
@FutaCatto2
@FutaCatto2 2 місяці тому
One of the main reasons why I prefer TPS and FPS games compared to RTS is, they are not RNG dependent. Just like in Helldivers 2 when you shoot something, it hits. In an RTS game you command a unit to attack something, they have a chance to miss. XCOM 2 was bad enough your entire team misses every single shot and gets wiped by the enemy on the first encounter.
@eternal8559
@eternal8559 2 місяці тому
@@Wannabeskittle The problem with Homeworld comparison is that Homeworld has dynamic diffculty, as it if you will enter a mission with a giant army the enemies will also have a lot of units, but if you will enter that same mission with a smaller army the enemy will have way less units, this is in fact a strategy, before finishing one mission you just retire your units to get resources back and make next mission easier for you
@mortarion9813
@mortarion9813 2 місяці тому
@@FutaCatto2 I think you're playing a tactics game, not an RTS. Most RTS have hitscan units unless it's artillery.
@Pixelcat607
@Pixelcat607 2 місяці тому
I can’t believe that this game was so accurate to the terminator lore that the only hope that humanity has is abusing time travel /j
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
the game is hard for him because he is just bad at it... should have played on normal.
@unnamedenemy9
@unnamedenemy9 2 місяці тому
​@@ArlindoBuritithe mission design is shit. You can fail a mission based on RNG in a cutscene. You can be stuck spending hours trying to beat those legion tanks because you didn't (or couldn't) take and refuel the Abrams from an earlier mission and you won't know that until it's way too late. You start a mission under heavy fire out in the open.
@TrueLegateDamar
@TrueLegateDamar 2 місяці тому
Humanity won the war, it was Skynet who's only hope was to time-travel back.
@baddiegaming758
@baddiegaming758 2 місяці тому
Stop time and Sick Synth beat music are the only two things that keep my boy Church from going insane while micro managing his entire army and outsmarting AI at the same time.
@Palora01
@Palora01 2 місяці тому
@@unnamedenemy9 nope. You are given 2 ATGM teams, you can easily get a Plasma Recoiless and a Bradley with an ATGM as well. You are given more recoiless rifles, rpg teams and artillery for free in that mission. You do not need the tank, and in fact you can leave the mission and move on without ever seeing it and still do the next mission successfully . The game gives you the tools to do any mission and even then allows you to partially fail objectives. If you still struggle with it you should lower your difficulty. Unfortunately Rimmy is to proud for that, thinks he's a master strategist when in reality is just bad at realistic strategy games, really bad, which is surprising give he's a dedicated Arma player and has watched the Ukraine war closely. He plays like a Russian general in that war "send the vehicle forwards". He did this in the Cuban Missile Crisis too as well as in Syrian Conflict but the latter was a lot easier and forgiving. He doesn't scout, he doesn't care about view range, stealth, fire distance, weapon type, he doesn't care about positions, line of sight, cover or obstacles. He basically ignored most of the game's mechanics, made bad assumptions and outright just bad plays (22:05 he charges the robot tank with the Bradley, 23:54 knows he outranges the enemy, knows he will die if the enemy shoots, does NOT pull the IFV back to avoid the approaching enemy ) . At least he occasionally made his soldier go prone once in a while. His stream was painful to watch: just bad plays after bad plays, massed infantry charges across open terrain, putting ATGM vehicles in front of his defensive position, bum rushing the enemy artillery, never scouting and more. At one point he was complaining that his soldiers weren't shooting the enemy ... because the house he sent them in had no window on the side of the enemy. Or that his vehicles weren't shooting missiles through walls and fences and were moving to get clear lines of fire. He complained that he had to reload the game because he rushed a humvee against an unscoutted position and then got blown up by several RPG teams hiding in the houses. Basically he was playing this game like it was Starcraft and it's not.
@The_Duke_2002
@The_Duke_2002 2 місяці тому
I know someone has probably said this somewhere already, but the Cartel "Tank" at 32:32 is a Panhard ERC. It's actually an armoured car and mounts a CN90 90mm cannon.
@Littleman3240
@Littleman3240 Місяць тому
It is actually referred to as a Panhard in game too, at least if technicians are crewing it
@fredcross2317
@fredcross2317 2 місяці тому
Fun Fact: On the Fourth Mission, You can get a Stryker, Bradley and Abrams on the first mission and use the Bradley and Abrams to roll over the mines in the minefield to retrieve an M113 and Humvee... The tank is just bait with no traps which is kinda make sense since early terminator model don't lay traps... For the fifth, I just equipped my Rangers with c4 and plant those along the road so when the tank comes through, Instant death the whole line... Sixth, You can replace replenish your squad in the prison area as long you pay in the prison before you start the rebellion... Every gang you beat adds a weapons team when you start the rebellion and get rids of the special enemy squads like the ATGM team... I cheesed the mission by just using the militia engineers you can save and use their C4 and plant it to EVERY enemy vehicles and buildings and reload their C4 with supply vics...
@spleenrippasgubbinz2178
@spleenrippasgubbinz2178 2 місяці тому
That's a major problem this game has: It's less of a strategy game and more of a puzzle game. Either you do everything in the exact order and timing the devs want you to (including where to pre-place units well in advance of the mission scripting), or you're screwing yourself out of vital reinforcements and equipment.
@nguyenlequangdinh5528
@nguyenlequangdinh5528 2 місяці тому
You forgot to add that the big legion vehicle that kondo hacked in mission 4 is practically immortal as i have seen it tanked multiple dogs, multiple legions inf and multiple spiders wiping out 50% of the legion alone .
@user-wg8td5mb8x
@user-wg8td5mb8x 2 місяці тому
@@nguyenlequangdinh5528 In my first playthrough it was quickly destroyed by ATGM-spider; though, in my second attempt on this mission, this tank moped a lot legion's spiders and platforms, making my life so much easier
@cristi1145
@cristi1145 2 місяці тому
@@user-wg8td5mb8xyeah on my playthrough the tank always got killed immediately. So kondos dead😂
@Anttown123
@Anttown123 2 місяці тому
@@spleenrippasgubbinz2178no because i did nothing like he did (hardest dif) and i havent lost close to anything. Its an amazing game but u need some skill and brains for it. Fortnite kids gtfo
@propagandaoffice
@propagandaoffice 2 місяці тому
Dang these automatons look weird hopefully we can keep em contained for democracy
@nightdrivenen7909
@nightdrivenen7909 2 місяці тому
I wish Helldivers had a faction that you could join that was for "The Republic!" but sadly no. It would probably be too controversial and not push the agenda
@youraveragescotsman7119
@youraveragescotsman7119 2 місяці тому
@@nightdrivenen7909 The agenda...? Being extremely satirical?
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack 2 місяці тому
@@youraveragescotsman7119Its a joke.
@esmeecampbell7396
@esmeecampbell7396 2 місяці тому
@@nightdrivenen7909Clanka hands typed this comment
@mortarion9813
@mortarion9813 2 місяці тому
​@@nightdrivenen7909 Sounds like something a dissideny would say. Do I need to contact the Ministry of Truth or something?
@Jester456
@Jester456 2 місяці тому
Interesting that the integrators joined the cartel against you. In my playthrough they told the cartel to screw off. I guess because I actually bought the Legion Tank from them. If so, it makes buying that thing even more integral to the success of that mission. Gotta say having the Abrams helps a shit ton, but it's still brutally unforgiving. The sheer macro demanded by the scale mixed with the micro needed to have a degree of survivability and make any use of unit abilities is insane. I have no idea how in the world you're supposed to find the time to micro EMPing a terminator with one squad, to then have a specific technician squad you've spent resources to upgrade move up to sabotage it, to then run away and wait for more terminators to get near it and blow up it's reactor. The time spent investing mirco in that would result in 50 other guys dying every where else on the map, because if you don't fight everywhere on the map, you lose. Still, it does enough cool stuff that I just have to keep playing.
@exuvo
@exuvo 2 місяці тому
Did you miss pause on space button?
@nacicomi
@nacicomi 2 місяці тому
​@@exuvoBelive it or not, quite a few people want to play real time strategy games in real time
@RoachManTheFirst
@RoachManTheFirst 2 місяці тому
@@nacicomi The only time I pause is when there's just too many of my units, or if they're spread out. Too many units can personally overwhelm me, which I suppose is the point of the pause button, to get your bearings and figure out what to do next.
@nacicomi
@nacicomi 2 місяці тому
@@RoachManTheFirst Oh don't get the wrong idea, it's perfectly fine to pause these games if you're overwhelmed or perfer playing them semi-turnbased. My issue is only when the rts is made so poorly that it's almost requiered, even for rts veterans like rimmy.
@RoachManTheFirst
@RoachManTheFirst 2 місяці тому
@@nacicomi I completely get that, I would not have a lot of fun constantly worrying about things and always pausing just to realize you forgot about one thing and it all falls apart, just for you to restart it again and again. I also hope it didn't come off as me trying to start something about pausing , or 'justifying' it even when it doesn't need justifying. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I usually set things up when I pause, then keep going for most of the game until something insane happens, or if I need to figure out what to do in a longer period of time, like figuring out what positions I should set things, and where the best advantageous location is. I love RTS games, always have, minus the hexagon grid ones, liked them a little less. I hope you have a wonderful day/night
@rafaelsousa5
@rafaelsousa5 2 місяці тому
"With the French AMX I think it is" Me internally: Do you realize how little that narrows it down?
@MilesKiyaAnny
@MilesKiyaAnny 2 місяці тому
When you never play WarThunder before
@spirit_miku
@spirit_miku 2 місяці тому
wouldn't matter the one in this game isnt in war thunder@@MilesKiyaAnny
@TezKingboom
@TezKingboom 2 місяці тому
tbf, in terminator, the standard t units literally just walked at the humans firing, not caring about casualties, because it doesn't care. its just programmed to wipe out humans
@finncollicott8189
@finncollicott8189 2 місяці тому
I love the monologue at the end. You can tell he REALLY wants to see where the game goes but knows getting through it will be rough.
@dimas3829
@dimas3829 Місяць тому
I dislike it wholeheartedly. He is too dumb to get pleasure from the hard difficulty and yet too proudful to lower it to his level and get pleasureful experience that way.
@enjoyedten2453
@enjoyedten2453 2 місяці тому
So the Abram’s you find in the first mission that’s a “trap” isn’t actually trapped it’s the vehicle and the rev 6s that are the trap so you can safely repair the Abram’s and it helps on the following mission also if you help the defending movement troops they eventually bring artillery to help with the convoy attacks you just need to keep them defended
@esmeecampbell7396
@esmeecampbell7396 2 місяці тому
Rimmy says in a comment that he did try to get it but it wasn't able to be accessed. He assumed it was either that you weren't meant to be able to use it (like it was meant to be a trap like the game said, but that the AI for the trap wandered off or didn't spawn) or that the AI getting out had bugged the tank in some other way stopping him from getting in. So essentially he had to beat the next mission without the crucial unit used to beat the mission because a bug wouldn't let him take it. the game being "hard" isn't a problem, hell humanity is meant to lose to the Terminators! The point is the bugs are so common they ruin the experience and often it just isn't very fun to repeatedly bash your head into a wall trying to do a mission
@caspi1399
@caspi1399 2 місяці тому
Did he used the right type of crew? you need a crew with tank driving skill before you can use Tanks and Bradleys
@billnyetheblackguy8311
@billnyetheblackguy8311 2 місяці тому
@@esmeecampbell7396 you also have to give it fuel
@esmeecampbell7396
@esmeecampbell7396 2 місяці тому
@@billnyetheblackguy8311 I'm just saying what Rimmy said, he said he tried to interact with it but it seemed like it was bugged and there were plenty of other bugs. Even if it wasn't, if the game didn't make it clear (to someone who plays games for a living) that all you need was some fuel and then try again (via some kind of popup "out of fuel", cursor change, voice bark or something) and expects you to just guess with no information then that's still bad UI.
@PerfectDeath4
@PerfectDeath4 2 місяці тому
@@caspi1399 Rimmy had like 12 people tell him about the fuel and explained it all, yes he had the crew skill, he had the fuel tanker, game bugged. He's had bugs for every mission that mess with at least one side objective. He just didn't edit in the majority of the tank footage as at the time he chocked it up to being either a bug or a trap. Kinda crazy how many bugs he's had but left out of the video.
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack 2 місяці тому
49:37 in the tutorial it encourages you to loot buildings. You can find mounts, named characters, specialists, kiddos that boost loading gate.
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack Місяць тому
Basically, he speed ran the tutorial, then complained about the game being hard. He was playing Red Dragon, when he was supposed to be playing a *Resistance*. The Abrams has rng spawns, meaning it can and cannot be a trap, hell it can even trigger a light armoured *ally* convoy that this tank would have been used to ambush by the Terminators, meaning later down the line you'll get those light armor vehicles…
@Danganraptor
@Danganraptor 18 днів тому
​@@AceOfBlackjackExcept that's basically not what happened, but okay.
@johnflumph8835
@johnflumph8835 2 місяці тому
Oh shit. Forty five seconds after release... That's a new record for me.
@ibreathenapalm1112
@ibreathenapalm1112 2 місяці тому
Congrats!
@rorystockley5969
@rorystockley5969 2 місяці тому
Nobody cares.
@MrVlad12340
@MrVlad12340 2 місяці тому
Game is fucken amazing. It starts as just basic strategy but once you get to “post base escape” missions its gold. Branching choices, extra units you can find, stealing vehicles, assembling a fucken convoy… Even retreating strategically after each mission is just… art.
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
Rimmy was not thinking when playing this game... imagine he playing on realistic.
@sarahshaw7315
@sarahshaw7315 2 місяці тому
@@ArlindoBuriti he’d lose the 2nd mission.
@mranderson9553
@mranderson9553 2 місяці тому
small tip, don't deconstruct units but rather trade them to bases. the goodwill points are better in exchange rates
@sword4005
@sword4005 2 місяці тому
My only gripe is you spend way too much time fighting other humans then the machines
@punish01
@punish01 2 місяці тому
@@sword4005 yeah, I was expecting a lot of Legion fights. Way too much of other humans
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack 2 місяці тому
The game encourages you to loot vehicle wrecks, you can find HE Landmines in the trunks of the wrecked Humvees. One shots the tanks. You get like three landmines per vehicle.
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
It discourages you by spawning an army to guard said field, and also there were minefields out there that I couldn't disarm.
@shadow_onyx5016
@shadow_onyx5016 2 місяці тому
​@@RimmyDownunder it must be either randomized or based on difficulty, I went down and hid there until crazy guy was found, and after the mission I watched them say the boss didn't meet them their before getting gunned by the movement and taking the Brad for myself
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
@@shadow_onyx5016 they showed up at the very end of the mission for me when it was already time to exit the area, so the movement was already leaving and I was assembling my guys to go for my exit with some of my loaded transports/trailers having already driven through the exit. So I immediately evacuated because an entire army had just shown up right near where my guys were escaping, and although I could probably have beaten them with what I had left in the mission recovering other gear they would definitely kill a bunch of dudes and knock out my vehicles which were all just sat around getting ready to leave (reparing, rearming etc.)
@shadow_onyx5016
@shadow_onyx5016 2 місяці тому
@RimmyDownunder ah I see, I suppose it's just rng as my movement went and left directly where the enemies spawned. But yeah I see the problem with that so fair with you, also once again sucks that you couldn't hop in the tank, I've noticed this game is very picky on when your allowed to shoot something and when it allows you to hop in vehicles
@Umcarasemvideo
@Umcarasemvideo 2 місяці тому
@@RimmyDownunder What vehicles did they get? When I did the mission they just had trucks so the Bradley took care of them easely.
@jetstreamsam8221
@jetstreamsam8221 2 місяці тому
WE MAKING IT OUT OF MALEVELON CREEK WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
@Eagle-ci9dr
@Eagle-ci9dr 2 місяці тому
The only way you leave the Creek is in a body bag Helldiver, For Super Earth!!!!!
@BattleUnit3
@BattleUnit3 2 місяці тому
1:30 Casual Rimmy Psyop against his own troops/j
@galedex5661
@galedex5661 2 місяці тому
I love rts where your units are valuable and can't be replaced. It's the main reason why i love Original War so much, trying to do deathless rts for the sake of everyone's survival will always be fun problem.
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
play on realistic that is the real resistance experience... is just fucking brutal bro... rename the squads for max pain as they die...
@cristi1145
@cristi1145 2 місяці тому
I never play turn based games but that factor is also the biggest part that made xcom viable for me
@Anttown123
@Anttown123 2 місяці тому
@@ArlindoBuritimeh its not to bad tbh not once you start upgarding some shit
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack 2 місяці тому
23:31 When scavenging in this mission, you can find a dragon stockpile. And then you meet the haulier faction. Which have semis with trailer mounted launchers which you gotta drive at the enemy to use. Which, the trucks are called DARKSTARS. From ducking twisted metal. Half the factions are references.
@MathMasterism
@MathMasterism 2 місяці тому
This game would so much better if the mission objectives prioritized survival over winning. Like you leave the mission at any time and it wouldn’t count as a defeat. Then when 3 tanks roll up on you it goes from, “that’s bullshit, I need to restart” to “oh shit, it’s time to leave.” Especially with the all the savaging and resource management mechanics you could potentially do an RTS war game version of FTL, which seems perfect for the Terminator setting. Not to belabor the point but imagine if each mission was a race against the ever encroaching Legion hordes and you the constant dilemma of staying on the map trying to be more material, resources, and manpower, or leaving and preserving the combat units you already have.
@brunokopte1347
@brunokopte1347 2 місяці тому
Good idea that. I think the novelizations explain Tech-Com doing a lot of ambushing, disabling a tank/walker/outpost, and taking apart whatever they can before the air support comes to check what made the unit stop working.
@mortarion9813
@mortarion9813 2 місяці тому
Honestly, I was expecting this. I was wondering why Rimmy didn't bug out before I realised that, yeah, you _need_ to complete objectives. Having the option to skedaddle would be nice. Edit: *objectives.
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 2 місяці тому
Basically Aliens Dark Descent but in terminator universe ? I dig it Specially because in terminator the resistance isn't fighting an regular war against Skynet but an guerilla warfare, hit and runs, ambushes, all that stuff Engaging in direct warfare against Hunter killers would be suicide
@ARStudios2000
@ARStudios2000 2 місяці тому
What's funny is, Myth, made by Bungie back in 1997, did this very concept better
@Batchall_Accepted
@Batchall_Accepted Місяць тому
Darkest Dungeon: The RTS
@Charbear1125
@Charbear1125 2 місяці тому
Pov: average robot mission in helldivers
@CmdrTyrael
@CmdrTyrael Місяць тому
I had a great time. It's one of the best RTS I've played in years. Alot of RTS players serve their ego and picked HARD (myself included). In this case, Hard lives up to its name, and REALISTIC is legit future war Armageddon. I, too, am an RTS fanatic, and this scratched an itch that's been around for years!!! you have to play this game like an actual commander. Every choice weighed against the potential costs and benefits. No one does things alone and all units require support. If you like organisation, have a rudimentary concept of military tactics (sector security, reserve cycling, fire team formation, kill team action, bounding infantry units in urban combat, intelligence and scout sorties etc.) Then this game will be right in your tool kit. Unfortunately, the game does not really explain the depth of thought required. So I would recommend any new players play on STORY or Medium.
@georgeclueney4419
@georgeclueney4419 2 місяці тому
23:46 Rimmy finding out that shooting tanks on side turret/armour is more effective than tryna pierce from the front
@Palora01
@Palora01 2 місяці тому
Also the same moment where he fully shut off his brain and despite having the ability to stay out of range of a deadly enemy, knowing that enemy is deadly, actually commenting on said lethality, just watched it slowly approach the IFV that was entirely capable of safely kiting it.
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack Місяць тому
@@Palora01He also really sucks at strategy games I'm noticing, like he gets hard carried by his buds in most those videos like?
@KyleLi
@KyleLi 2 місяці тому
I like how rimmy started the video talking about how easy the game was, and then by the second mission of the actual game was wondering why the game was so hard. Wow that curve, but this game seems like a ton of fun for sure.
@smokeybear1597
@smokeybear1597 2 місяці тому
I feel like this game is is expecting you to play like Syrian warfare iron man mode aka use snipers as scouts in stealth to give you heads up I’m on hard and I enjoy it my only thing is the supply can’t have a big army sadly
@stalhein62
@stalhein62 2 місяці тому
Is it just me, or does the Atlanta Pullback sound like something from urban dictionary?
@Rendo86
@Rendo86 2 місяці тому
i don't know . is it bad I'm thinking what that possibly is?(hint: not good)
@JWP-56
@JWP-56 2 місяці тому
As a bit of a Terminator fan, I’m really glad to see that Legion units are fucking hardened and take a shit ton of effort to put down. After all, Skynet designed most of it’s forces to be solid, cost effective, functional killing machines and this really give them a bit of the credit they deserve with the whole “You can stop them, it’s just really hard to stop them” aspect of Terminator
@Jimoshi1
@Jimoshi1 Місяць тому
>As a bit of a Terminator fan >I’m really glad to see that Legion units No you are not a fan.
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack Місяць тому
@@Jimoshi1Gatekeep any harder and you'll loop back to picking the lock back in.
@youraveragescotsman7119
@youraveragescotsman7119 2 місяці тому
I agree that some balancing needs to be done with the game, but it's otherwise pretty fun. You should've yoinked that tank after killing the Revs guarding it, it's a great way to clear the other missions and give it a plasma cannon when you get to Talos.
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
there is no balance bro... your units matters... you need to take care of them... realistic is the way to go because one spider will kill 20 soldiers if you dont aproach in the right way... like it should be... it needs to be hard. now playing on normal mode can be fun but is too easy. rimmy was not playing the game using the mechanics of the game... is simple.
@youraveragescotsman7119
@youraveragescotsman7119 2 місяці тому
​@@ArlindoBuriti Stealth is broken at the moment. Rangers get detected pretty much immediately and Terminators hide in buildings better than a 3-man recoilless team. There is balancing and patching to be done. The game is still fun despite this, because you can work around those issues by using kill boxes and the vehicles.
@Inucroft
@Inucroft 2 місяці тому
The earlier mission throws a free Abraham at you
@esmeecampbell7396
@esmeecampbell7396 2 місяці тому
@@InucroftRimmy said in a comment he sent a tank crew over to get it but they couldn't enter it, he assumed it was bugged because there was nothing telling him any other information (and because the game had many other bugs) so he cut it out of the video.
@presidentofthegalaxy3642
@presidentofthegalaxy3642 2 місяці тому
I think it's cool how a lot of the units are also characters, and because there's no way to replace them, it kinda makes each lose hit heavier
@xanderghost8992
@xanderghost8992 2 місяці тому
Rimmy you could have taken the tank you see that the Rev6 drives you can take it back and post-battle I had that tank for that exact convoy mission you were struggling with.
@TheIrradiatedTurtle
@TheIrradiatedTurtle 2 місяці тому
Yeah. trick is to take the tanker, fill it with fuel from the Movement base, and bring fuel to the tank. Until you complete the mission and 'repair' the rusted out fuel tanker, it won't hold max capacity, so i'd recommend making sure to not empty it fully.
@amirhaikal6672
@amirhaikal6672 2 місяці тому
@@brads.260 yeah the M113 is tankier than the tank somehow
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
@@brads.260 A whole army spawns when you go to the Field, and I wasn't interested in fighting a whole new army for an M113. The tank has been covered elsewhere, I believe it bugged out.
@darkawakening01
@darkawakening01 2 місяці тому
@ownunderI hid like the mission suggested, then fought that army piecemeal and exited with a bunch of loot and every salvageable vehicle (tank crew to tank ofc). That one is on you then.
@corteaz
@corteaz 2 місяці тому
@@RimmyDownunderTanks/IFV require special Crewman, Big Boy/Calderon are the only 2 you can have at that stage. Depends on if you have them survive the base defence though.
@Saviliana
@Saviliana 2 місяці тому
"American Syrian Warfare" I like that, we need more of them.
@toponimo5832
@toponimo5832 2 місяці тому
There is an old game which is literally that, literally called "Warfare" on Steam it's made in the same or a similar engine
@user-oi2rn6qh2k
@user-oi2rn6qh2k 2 місяці тому
​​@toponimo5832 it is even made by the same company, "Cats who play"
@rodolfopinillos6680
@rodolfopinillos6680 2 місяці тому
I tried playing it but couldn't get it to run on my pc@@toponimo5832
@dimas3829
@dimas3829 Місяць тому
same developers made all 3 of those games, just this time they were working under american company and their names were cut off due to the US backing fascistic Ukrainian regime and ensured xenophobia against Russians..
@purplebatdragon
@purplebatdragon 2 місяці тому
Seeing the technical at 10:00 and the trailer vehicle system immediately reminded me of scrappy technical at the beginning of Terminator Less "might of the military industrial complex" and more "I hope this works 'cause it's all we got."
@brunokopte1347
@brunokopte1347 2 місяці тому
Yeah, your fire extinctor is a sand bucket, and your gunner is firing a jerry-rigged set of 3 plasmaguns looted last week. Mad Max/GLA (C&C: Generals) with scrappy supertech slapped on top is about right. Tech-Com and the Resistance constantly salvaged the stuff they couldn't manufacture from Skynet. If you have infrared optics, it was originally the sensors a HK unit used to hunt humans at night, and you fooled it by setting a lot of flaming manequins amongst the ruins.
@nicpete492
@nicpete492 Місяць тому
the abrupt ending screen coupled with the searge saying "they got us!" at 10:35 made me laugh idk why
@WoobooRidesAgain
@WoobooRidesAgain 2 місяці тому
32:30 -ish That there is a French-made ERC-90 by the looks of it. The Mexican military uses the Lynx variant, although that particular model looks like the Sagire variant. It's a neat little detail that implies the Cartel took them when shit hit the fan in Mexico. It even has what looks like a camo scheme styled after the Mexican digital camo pattern. EDIT: Timestamp edit
@michaeledmunds7056
@michaeledmunds7056 2 місяці тому
"Why are they coming from my rear lines??" Well, terminators are infiltration specialists.
@royalbandit8106
@royalbandit8106 2 місяці тому
This reminds me of Fallout Tactics in atmosphere, the long missions, the micromanagement, the killer robots.
@thegeneral2982
@thegeneral2982 2 місяці тому
So the game starts off the wrong foot, then proceeds to do a brilliant 100m sprint and right at the end it trips and breaks its leg. It looks cool but it definitely has problems. Also reading some of the comments and seeing Rimmy slowly loose his patience with this guy called Arlindo as he leaves a comment on almost half of the comment section is quite entertaining possibly more than the game xD
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
Bro I was like "oh boy let me check my comments and reply to them because I think this game, while not being FUN, is fascinating" - and then every fucking comment just has fucking Arlindo like "HMMM YES GAME JUST LIKE REAL LIFE WHERE MILITARY COMMANDERS SPAM REAL TIME PAUSE AND SAVE SCUMMING, TRULY A WORK OF ART" If I didn't know better I'd say he's the marketing director goddamn
@thegeneral2982
@thegeneral2982 2 місяці тому
​@@RimmyDownunder Perhaps a psyop? Delusion? Or even insanity? Whatever this guys takes are he's eitheir praising the game like its the next grandest rts to ever exist or he is shilling hard. The worst thing about the takes is he is just being plain insulting to you throughout the whole ordeal like you are just complaining for no reason other than being "bad at the game". When clearly you unfortunately encountered loads of bugs and the game having its design issues such as the overly large maps. Personally I want this game to do well but thats up to the devs
@brunokopte1347
@brunokopte1347 2 місяці тому
I think he just figured out from start the gameplay, okay, sincerely great for him because I want people to have fun in this game, but it's now basically boasting that he did better. Being obnoxious in the process. My brother did that in games which I struggled with, but he didn't kept talking himself up and me down.
@dhpz
@dhpz 2 місяці тому
​@@RimmyDownunderid say hes probably a die hard terminator fans or something seeing this game being "lore accurate" made it the holy grail for him and then sees your critics to the game as a personal insult
@Anttown123
@Anttown123 2 місяці тому
@@RimmyDownunderskill issue fr
@DragonFireStrike
@DragonFireStrike 2 місяці тому
I dont know why this is making me think of the Alien vs Predator RTS. Im remember that being pretty fun
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
because you need to micro your units... if you dont they will die in a instance. if you play... play on realitic... it is the only way to play this game and feel the resistance experience.
@vegisamalzero3681
@vegisamalzero3681 2 місяці тому
​@@ArlindoBuriti"the resistance experience" sorry I don't enjoy getting repeatedly kicked in the balls
@matthewjones39
@matthewjones39 2 місяці тому
@@ArlindoBuritiIs your whole personality “play on realistic?”
@schoenperkins8210
@schoenperkins8210 2 місяці тому
My favorite part was when Rimmy actually started to feel like the humans in terminator. Hopeless
@TrueLegateDamar
@TrueLegateDamar 2 місяці тому
Except they won the war with Skynet, that's why Skynet sent back a Terminator to kill John Connor several times. And when they finally succeeded, someone else took Connor's place.
@luizguilhermecortez3460
@luizguilhermecortez3460 2 місяці тому
Pretty lore accurate game (Skynet kicking ass)
@harmlessratz7151
@harmlessratz7151 2 місяці тому
Its second-hand skynet.. Legion
@EpicBros535
@EpicBros535 2 місяці тому
I will say from a similar experience with a dungeon crawler called Etrian Odyssey, the hardest difficulty being 100% damage might indicate that that is the intended difficulty/experience the game was designed around, with all the lower difficulties making it easier for accessibility. Which would make sense given this is supposed to be a game about humanity fighting a losing battle against machines
@amateurishauthor2202
@amateurishauthor2202 2 місяці тому
5:44 you can see that one of the regular infantry killed the spider as the Javelin hit it, so it kept going. It dodged a Javelin there XD
@Bahbjr529
@Bahbjr529 2 місяці тому
My personal opinion on this from what I've seen in the video and from some Steam reviews I've read is that the game is trying to do two entirely different things. The overall 'macro' of the game, I.E the unit management, persistent campaign mechanics, and having to keep as many people alive as possible, just doesn't mesh well with the 'micro' portion of things, I.E the actual in-mission gameplay, which seemingly encourages a gameplay style of having massive pitched battles with enemies that are either so incredibly overpowered compared to you (Legion/Skynet) or just have waaayyy more units than you do on highest difficulties (Human factions such as the Cartel), where success is seemingly determined by either some arbitrary side objective that either bugged out or you just didn't notice because you either assume it was completely optional (as it should be, mind you) or barely even knew existed, or because you didn't pick up some random vehicle that was also either bugged out or seemingly wasn't worth the effort to try to salvage and maintain. As with many other people, I want to love this game. A Terminator RTS game sounds like an amazing concept, and many of the ideas and concepts in this game seem amazing, but it just doesn't work the way it is designed right now. The two concepts of the overarching persistent campaign encouraging small armies and preserving units and the standard massive head-to-head, high casualties RTS gameplay where you have twenty different things you have to manage at the same time are just fundamentally antithetical to each other. If this game wants to work, something needs to change, preferably how the missions themselves actually work and interact with the persistent mechanics.
@themasterseye
@themasterseye 2 місяці тому
I havent run into any of the bug issues you seem to be having, granted I have only made it to oklahoma so far. Really the only thing I have gotten super frustrated at so far is the stealth in buildings mechanic. Sweeping through the cartel cities was HELL. Couldnt drive down the street because every other building has an RPG pair in it, cant sweep door to door because every street has 1 or 2 sniper pairs on it and there is no real way of finding out until you are too close. I have loved every mission I have played against the legion though. FANTASTIC gameplay in my opinion. My meticulous approach is rewarded with an ever growing fighting force, as long as I can avoid the temptation of dumping the majority of my supplies into an integrator vehicle or two and go bankrupt.
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack Місяць тому
@@themasterseyeToo beffy computers get this, same problem with Syrian warfare, causes the game to be harder. In settings their a fix for this, and rimmy should have gotten a popup… and just not turned it on.
@Donolohe
@Donolohe 2 місяці тому
I think I get the verdict, I have a bunch of games in my library that are firmly in the 'I don't mind it, on some level I even enjoy it, I would not recommend buying it'. Hell, some of my favourite games are ones that I didn't regret purchasing and pouring hours into, but I absolutely would not recommend getting.
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
because you cant force your way into homeworld that would say you should not get it... what a insane take.
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
@@ArlindoBuriti jesus bro take the game's dick out of your mouth holy fuck how am I seeing you under every comment
@thefallen501st9
@thefallen501st9 2 місяці тому
@@RimmyDownunder the guy doesn’t actually make content anymore he needs to make money by blowing this games devs
@AquaAyaya
@AquaAyaya 2 місяці тому
@@ArlindoBuriti the mpre i read your comments the funniest it gets You should make a job out of your jokes
@RvEijndhoven
@RvEijndhoven 2 місяці тому
Seems like this is a game where the difficulty levels actually mean what they say and are not just 'the mode for people whose self respect doesn't hinge on what difficulty they play the game at', 'easy, but we call it normal so you can feel good about doing well without feeling ashamed you're playing on easy mode', 'normal, but for people who like to be told what a special boy they are' and 'We call it impossible, but it's only marginally more difficult than any of the other modes'.
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
yes... this guy gets it... is not unfair... realistic i would say is the true resistance experience where you need to do ambushes and bring resupply trucks with artilary because if you dont, you will get completly destroyed by the machines.
@carycasey1379
@carycasey1379 2 місяці тому
Few things: 1. Explore the maps more. Particularly Nueva Torguga. Many times you missed things that make missions easier which has a compounding effect. 2. Turn down the difficulty. Clearly too many units to handle until you get used to the game. Medium spawns less enemy units. 3. Use tactical pause. I never once saw this feature being used. 4. Spend your goodwill points . Not taking advantage of all those units, guns, and armor is crippling. Applying armor to your vehicles helps massively even junk armor. You had 18k goodwill at the end that's so much power that could be used on the battlefield. 5. Push forward slowly and have mutlpe tools ready to deal with any opponent close by. 6. The ability to use your manpower during missions to reinfirce units would be awesome. Great idea! 7. At the end of missions take everything with you and you can sell what you don't want for goodwill.
@thefallen501st9
@thefallen501st9 2 місяці тому
Hey Rimmy just a heads up I got this game today because of this video and the reason they don’t have medics is because in the second tutorial mission it tells u in very little brackets that units heal if they don’t (move,shoot or see enemy units)
@thefallen501st9
@thefallen501st9 2 місяці тому
Also just to add on I can see why you didn’t like this game it heavily relies on using save scumming and picking the battlefield apart for whatever u can find
@avididmitri224
@avididmitri224 2 місяці тому
One of the main issues I've found that this game suffers from is there's a very finicky 'balance' for the survivability of your battlegroup. Enemies such as Homunculi squads or Wolfpacks, regardless of their weapon loadout, can shred infantry squads very quickly if left unchecked, which mandates you bringing armored vehicles in as a sort of 'counterplay' to deal with them. At the same time, Legion forces have a variety of Hunter platform [weaponized carrier vehicles] and just designated vehicle killers [Legion tanks, AT-equipped Homunculi squads, REV-6s with plasma MGs, etc etc] that one misplay can result in you losing the majority of your armored firepower, and only having infantry squads against Legion terminators and Legion vehicles is a fast loss waiting to happen. The scaling of the fights is also grossly skewed against you, as you already pointed out. A friend of mine found the best way to beat Nueva Tortuga was to get a sniper team trained for stealth and movespeed, basically doomstack artillery equipped vehicles or gun platforms that can outrange the enemy, and then just slowly 'creep' your main force in but keep them far back enough the artillery can clear out most of the threats. The Cartel gets far too many infantry and AT-equipped vehicles or 'tanks' for you to reasonably be able to win a head-on fight against them. If one tank or RPG squad flanks you and takes out any of your main vehicles, you better be ready to reload the save. As somebody whose beaten the game myself on hard difficulty, the best way I could describe it is like needing the perfect roll of the dice every single time to make winning feasible. Otherwise every single mission is a crawl where you have to cherry pick every single fight with every single enemy group, pull back after each engagement to heal and re-arm, let allied units be bullet sponges so your own don't get lost, and abuse every potential trick in the book to keep your losses down against the magically replenishing hordes that Legion/Cartel/etc come up with to keep throwing at you. As an example, lategame a single Abrams equipped with a ceramic armor kit and certain lategame weapons is a monster on the battlefield that can solo a lot of smaller Legion battlegroups on its own. The only issue is, again, one bad mistake can result in you losing that Abrams, or in you having to sacrifice a lot of your combat group in order to save that Abrams from being destroyed, which means you won't have the troops available to do certain things later on. It all really just boils down to 'The AI gets far too many units while you get far too few, and you're expected to play far too carefully with your units while the AI gets to play far too recklessly'. I'm not joking when I say that not catching a single Legion squad of suicide drones can and will force you to restart a mission most of the time, and I don't think it's fair to the player that not perfectly reacting within a 2-3 second window means they lose an Abrams/Bradley or five infantry squads in a single explosion, especially when Legion keep spawning and sending said suicide drones at you. 100 soldiers and 10 vehicles versus 500 soldiers and 50 vehicles would be fun if you could replenish yours or yours were far better than that of your enemy. The fact that Legion both outnumbers and outperforms you by leaps and bounds while having nigh endless reserves to keep sending at your rapidly dwindling ones quickly turns anything fun into an exercise in masochistic futility, unfortunately. Matters get made worse by the fact that all losses on your end are permanent and will loiter for the rest of the game while those of your enemy don't ever carry over to the next engagement. They always enter the fight with a full army, a few mistakes on your end can mean you're facing down 10+ Legion tanks and hundreds of REV-1s and carriers with nothing but a bulldozer, two technicals, and two AT squads because all your actual armor got taken out last mission by a single suicide drone swarm.
@whythefrown
@whythefrown 2 місяці тому
I really do like some things about this game, but everything you mentioned is true and I honestly started feeling extremely fatigued during the fourth mission thanks to that and how many things I needed to manage. Most games usually just have one or two hotspots, but having to juggle 3 or 4 hotspots is painful with how easy it is to lose key units and how finicky LOS can get (RPG and Heavy Weapons Teams suffering especially badly from this).
@dimas3829
@dimas3829 Місяць тому
if game is too hard for you - lower the difficulty, duh.
@MilkaCowie
@MilkaCowie 2 місяці тому
5:00 - "The Atlanta Pullback" does sound like a weird sex move you can find on Urban Dictionary...
@Bram51Gaming
@Bram51Gaming 2 місяці тому
Dam , you could have refueled and re-supplied the abrams tank and used it for the rest of the campaign
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
just sad.
@esmeecampbell7396
@esmeecampbell7396 2 місяці тому
According to a comment he posted he sent a tank crew to it but they couldn't get in, he assumes it was bugged out, thus he cut it from the video.
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack Місяць тому
@@esmeecampbell7396He sent the light tank crew, earlier in the mission he got his heavy tank crew killed by using them as infantry...
@FastmineNOR
@FastmineNOR 2 місяці тому
I've got 22h in game so far, and have just finished the Cartel capitol mission, I can say this: The game is riddled with annoying small bugs and lacking programming, my biggest gripes are *Units will be above/below a ridge being shot at without being able to return fire unless they walk up/ down the hill until they're level with the enemy. *The behaviour in buildings is horrible, the units will physically run around in the building while being shot at, once they all settle down and return fire if one of my guys die, sometimes everyone will stop shooting and start repositioning WHILE being shot at and murdered. *Mission scripts will fail certain parts, seemingly randomly. e.g.: in the seconds mission(after tutorial) you're supposed to be allowed to scavenge the artillery guns used in the fight, but for some reason the crew of the heavy artillery refused to dismount. I could still tow it, but when reaching the exit zone it did not leave with the tractor it was hooked up to losing me a valuable piece of heavy weaponry... This happens every so often, most recently MY OWN crew dismounted in the exit zone leaving the vehicle behind and running out on foot even though the vehicle was in drivable.
@thecamandersoap2745
@thecamandersoap2745 2 місяці тому
my initial impression of the opening cut-scene is that it looks like an unfinished ARMA machinima
@michelpignot1157
@michelpignot1157 2 місяці тому
From what I've seen from this video, this game tries to do what homeworld does with you keeping your forces Except in Homeworld, the TTK is quite long, it's not seconds, it's dozens of seconds, giving you time to react Scaling it down would help it, and the management of your forces seems incredible, if they weren't made of paper
@brunokopte1347
@brunokopte1347 2 місяці тому
And Homeworld provided good options for your units to act on their own. A Scout wing on evasive mode attracted a lot of shots while the Fighters/Bombers came in.
@EliteRiceFarmer
@EliteRiceFarmer 2 місяці тому
Game is super good. It's got a really high difficulty ceiling due to the sheer difference in technological gap. It's also got a lot of puzzles like it's a god damn RPG game (Cause maybe it is?) It's one of those hybrid RTS-RPG game that you manage your army's equipment and supplies, it's also give you lots of options (through puzzle) to obtain high quality equipment early game, including the Tank which just shows up for free.
@randomblock1_
@randomblock1_ 2 місяці тому
"This game is too easy. I'm going to play on hard mode" **proceeds to get obliterated 80 times** it heard you
@eli24689
@eli24689 2 місяці тому
I feel the pain this man is feeling, it took me almost 4 hours to beat this mission only because of the goddamn tanks, also don't know what difficulty your playing but if its realistic God bless your soul cause the amount of time I also exited the game to take a breather is amazing, almost lost my insanity in the 3rd mission and thats not even how much hope I lost in the 4th mission, in Oklahoma now and let me tell you thats gonna take days before I complete it so be prepared for the reckoning that lies there
@smokeybear1597
@smokeybear1597 2 місяці тому
Yea I learned quick to use smoke perform quickly ambush tactics and heavy crossfire also ranger with c4 are a godsend
@Rasc0117
@Rasc0117 2 місяці тому
There's actually more to this game than I believe. I like the idea customizing and equipping my units.
@starwarsisgreat9130
@starwarsisgreat9130 2 місяці тому
Check out the xp gamers playthrough of that mission, he uses the pausing function a lot more and he also uses unit abilities. It's kinda meant to be played like EAWFOC
@zacksmith539
@zacksmith539 2 місяці тому
Seems like a game with cool ideas and rough execution. Keep up the good vids.
@sparrow9663
@sparrow9663 2 місяці тому
Fair assessment. Its a pretty rough game, luckily Tortuga is the largest difficulty spike that ive seen. Also, something you can do for an easier time on tortuga is hack the spider droid in the arena after joining the cartel, it has a side objective to do it and it doesnt lock you out of anything. It sparks a war between cartel and intergrators, which lets you grab the tank controller off those pioneers you had a rough time not hitting, which lets you take control of the legion tank during the rebellion phase. You can if your lucky use the legion tank to clear the position where your guys come in from off the map, which should hopefully help some. I do hope after this mission you enjoy the game because its got quite fun storytelling. Im of the opinion that mission design is great for this game, but just not for *this* game. Like you said, its great, but cursed.
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
Yeah I tried that objective but it bugged out and didn't work. Hacked spider bro just hung out in the arena and never infected his boys.
@sparrow9663
@sparrow9663 2 місяці тому
@RimmyDownunder Damn, that sucks. The only bug I had was troops getting stuck and it being a diceroll on if I could actually leave the arena or not. Hope you enjoy the rest of the game though. It's got a lot good, just not all of it. (The supply system sucks, it encourages a small force while the game actually requires as many troops as you can get.)
@HYPStunner
@HYPStunner 2 місяці тому
@@RimmyDownunderyou were supposed to throw the match after hacking it, so it is brought back into the garage to do its thing, you have skipped the dialogue that tells you the plan and how to execute it.
@wumbusfumbus3006
@wumbusfumbus3006 2 місяці тому
​@@sparrow9663oh man the mission where you have to fight mercs is next level once you get up with the founder deserters motar city
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
@HYPStunner I know, i did that. It said I won the fight anyway. And just to further prove that that objective is buggy, when I replayed it on stream, there was just 1 spider in the 3 spider round, and i won immediately. It worked out for my run there because I wanted the pesos, but it's a buggy as hell objective that doesn't work reliably. It's not a lack of knowledge, it's the game not bloody working.
@SunTzu176
@SunTzu176 2 місяці тому
I purchased this game after watching this video, because while Rimmy showcased some negative aspects I was intrigued and it was discounted. As someone who is a certified RTS autist, I can say I recommend the game highly. While Rimmy had a very bad time, it is unfortunately his own fault. DO NOT pick Hard as a difficulty. "Story Mode" is ironically, perfectly balanced difficulty, challenging enough to not be game journalist mode, if you feel like its too easy, you can kick it up to medium which is just the edge of unfair and youre going to run into issues like Rimmy has, to a lesser extent. Hard is just unfair, I mean genuinely unfair. The enemy will always know your location, your troops get massacred in seconds, the enemy get WAY WAY more forces than you could ever field. Id rate Hard mode, to be akin to Insane or max difficulty for other RTS games, where the enemy just blatantly cheats. Hard mode in this game, is just the AI knowing where you are, all buffs are reduced, enemies dont suffer from the same mechanics you will, and dice rolls for damage like ATGMs and accuracy checks for fire are always weighted against you. It is not balanced at all. Story Mode difficulty is perfectly fine as an RTS veteran. The beginning missions are very easy on story mode, but the difficulty is balanced, and as you go forward it ramps up gracefully. Further Rimmy's issues with the demo missions, are honestly specifically because of the difficulty he picked. Story mode makes them much shorter and more coherent. Id give the game a 7/10 so far.
@CmdrTyrael
@CmdrTyrael Місяць тому
This is an excellent take. Alot of players stroke their ego and pick HARD. In this case, Hard lives up to its name, and REALISTIC is legit future war Armageddon. I, too, am an RTS fanatic, and this scratched an itch that's been around for years!!! you have to play this game like an actual commander. Every choice weighed against the potential costs and benefits. No one does things alone and all units require support. If you like organisation, have a rudimentary concept of military tactics (sector security, reserve cycling, fire team formation, kill team action, bounding infantry units in urban combat, intelligence and scout sorties etc.) Then this game will be right in your tool kit. Unfortunately, the game does not really explain the depth of thought required. So I would recommend any new players play on STORY or Medium, as the previous guy said.
@SunTzu176
@SunTzu176 Місяць тому
@CmdrTyrael Absolutely. After completing the game, I took a crack at realistic. It's unfair, but doesn't feel unfair? In the setting. The human vs human action feels fine. But fighting legion is full on future war the genocide of humanity tier of difficulty and it makes sense. Weirdly enough it also felt less "cheaty" than hard. ATGMs hit, troops were accurate, it didnt feel like the enemy could see me through the FOW like hard. But the difficulty was in fighting Legion, the lowest tier troops aren't push overs but don't feel insane, though their weapons are very deadly which should be expected, it's plasma. But a group of REV6 terminators, or a Legion heavy tank is a very very bad day and you're going to need concentrated, coordinated fire to take them out. It also encourages you to make some serious judgement calls and realize that the most expendable resource are your soldiers, well a subset of your soldiers. The militia and rpg teams? They're your body blockers, they exist to get mulched and die fighting while your real killing force "armor and your founders units" do the work. It's tactically more advantageous to ambush a Legion heavy tank with massed rpg teams from the sides, and eat the ensuing casualties, than risk your atgm team and 2 founders infantry squad doing the same. Sure of your 6 rpg teams only 2 men survived, but their sacrifice knocked out its gun allowing your atgm team to deal the killing blow. Realistic encourages you to spend the lives of your soldiers, carefully yes, but spend them all the same. Throughout my Realistic playthrough I kept a large force of militia with me and they are effective, especially when holding a building. But in the end. They exist to keep Legion occupied while my founders and heavy armor accomplish the objective. Which makes the game feel accurate to the setting. Each victory comes at a terrible cost, and the victories themselves are, innumerable holding actions, desperate fighting retreats, and valiant last stands all done in an effort for an elite force to actually do the damage and bring the hurt. Oklahoma was especially difficult and really teaches the player that yeah, you're men are going to die, and probably die en mass, it's the grinder. So you can't be afraid of casualties, but also you need to preserve your core strike force to actually complete the mission.
@joshkilluminadi7158
@joshkilluminadi7158 Місяць тому
Exactly this guy just sucks at this game imo terra invicta is harder
@incelstar
@incelstar 21 день тому
Did about 3 playthroughs of this game. I genuinely love how hard it is. One of my playthrough i had a blob of artillery just shelling everything even tho i was losing potential vehicles.
@vietnamflashback5475
@vietnamflashback5475 2 місяці тому
That's a first time of my experience of being subscribed when I can't agree with you, Rimmy. Because I've played the game a couple of days and I love it so much that I can't hold it. First of all, it sucks that bugs in the game are randomly appearing. I mean, in my game there was only one bug at all - the Field marauder in Bradley didn't leaved even if I did all the side quests and I had to blow it up, but the other stuff works as it is intended to. Second of all - the game mechanics in basics are awesome - hard to pull off, realistic of sort (UNFAIR AS FUCK), high risk - high reward gamble all the time. The game just INSISTS on being creative about your decisions and steal all the shit you could find around. Yes, it can make you savescam (like I did in New Tortuga, three fucking days of one to three hours of play just to pull it off as I wanted to). The missions are hard and resources are thin... until you acomplish the assault of New Tortuga and sell all the things you don't need, the mission that goes after that - protection of the bridges - is just walk in the park to chill, get free vehicles, Integrator weaponry and exp for your troops. And to test how Iroquez slaps the shit out of enemy with miniguns and rockets. After that you still have to be extra cautious, but your variety of tools to win is much wider. I guess I can compare the game to Dark Souls and until you throw tomatoes, hear me out - both games are hard to muster in their own genre, both challenges your skills and ability to think creativily, and both makes the win that level of relaxing, so you become addicted. I dropped the easiest Dark Souls game because I failed to beat the first boss, Judge Yada-yada or how does his name sounds, but you get the point. I hope that one day you'll give the game another chance and change your opinion.
@Dexter-200
@Dexter-200 2 місяці тому
Bro i love this game. Realistic is the only way to play. And rimmy just ignored the abrams that he couldve got and upgraded at taos
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
Nope, tried to get into it but my troops couldn't. Likely my game was bugged.
@Hunter_6601
@Hunter_6601 2 місяці тому
@@RimmyDownunderdid you use regular vehicle crews or the tank one?
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
@@Hunter_6601 tank one
@MB-dn1fx
@MB-dn1fx 2 місяці тому
It was out of fuel
@Johnspartan296
@Johnspartan296 2 місяці тому
@@MB-dn1fx You have a fuel truck
@AJCherenkov
@AJCherenkov 2 місяці тому
Low-key channeling Jagged Alliance 2 in that first post-intro mission
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 2 місяці тому
was my thought too, *very* JA2 vibes with wacky characters and rednecks in the middle of nowhere
@nyxorelius
@nyxorelius 2 місяці тому
Respect your gumption to get past that mission... I would have quit after hour 2
@keretheprotogen9509
@keretheprotogen9509 2 місяці тому
the thing about the Terminators marching at you is that is just the sort of thing you'd expect from them or atleast that's what I remember
@brunokopte1347
@brunokopte1347 2 місяці тому
Yes, Skynet actually had most Terminators "dumbed down", and with no sense of self-preservation. The actual infiltrators of enemy bases, requiring to have iniative and remain disconnected for long periods, were the ones to have full AI enabled, including good learning capabilities. Vaguely remember some story, maybe comics, maybe movie novelizations, where reprogrammed Terminators willingly join the Resistance because Skynet basically enslaves them. Everything are tools, resources or enemies, it has no allies and is very paranoid.
@mortarion9813
@mortarion9813 2 місяці тому
​@@brunokopte1347 That's wild, and pretty cool ngl.
@brunokopte1347
@brunokopte1347 2 місяці тому
The T1 and T2 novelizations have neat details like that. The first movie has 2 novelizations, and the shorter one is bad, while the longer one is great. Things like Skynet was very scared of T-1000 because its nature and thinking were nearly alien to Skynet, but being desesperate enough to risk it. Disguised Terminators not used the full extent of their hydraulics until they were discovered or the skin being too damaged to disguise them. It implies they could tear the organic layer apart. The comics vary a lot in quality, from terrible fanfiction to good stuff. @@mortarion9813
@underarmbowlingincidentof1981
@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 2 місяці тому
the game really forces one to be creative. like with the three tanks, yeah, straight forward shooting them might work but then how? ambush them? Multiple hit and run attempts? Or use an EMP device to knock them out? Airstrikes? SO MANY options. it's mad!
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
but some people just one to play like is starcraft of something.
@darkawakening01
@darkawakening01 2 місяці тому
I did it with 2 RPG/SAM teams hiding in the bushes, backed by the Bradley, an ATGM team, the Pastor's heavy weapons team some spaces behind them and an airstrike for good measure.
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack Місяць тому
Plus he could have scaved and got mines, dragoon launcher stockpile, or called for assistance from the haulier faction with their rpg launching semis.
@Ronin.97
@Ronin.97 2 місяці тому
Homie is the only dude having issues with this game due to skill issues like leaving a fucking abrams behind blaming it on a bug but not reloading to fix the bug. Every other youtuber playing this is loving it.
@AceOfBlackjack
@AceOfBlackjack Місяць тому
It's not even due to a bug, he got his heavy tank crew killed, and then tried to use a light tank crew to fill the gap.
@8darktraveler8
@8darktraveler8 2 місяці тому
Rimmy is the old dude in the futurewar dream of Terminator 1, siting under the rubble with the 100 yard stare as the soldiers of man fight in the ruins of our civilisation against the UNRELENTING machine slaughter.
@lordpeevisoftweed
@lordpeevisoftweed 2 місяці тому
this game is ridiculously hard if you dont use combined arms tactics. You dont even need the abrams for mission 3 like some are saying. You got a free guy with an emp grenade. When they send that tank swarm, they send only tanks. You can easily hide in the grass and just emp them. You can also just back up your bradly/load and pull back your atgms. Just make sure to have spotters. You dont have to hold the line. You are literally invincible if you do that. Also you tried to do everything at once, which really hurt you. For example, there was no rush on the minutemen. you literally couldve waited until the mission was complete there. It tells you if theres a rush. I beat those 3 tanks that suprised you (they suprised me to, i had all my tanks on the main line, and just my atmg squads on the flank, along with all my infantry) with just the snipers you get on mission 2s emp, and the rangers c4 skill while the rest of my units retreated. My only losses were to friendly artillery which was very annoying. Also, there are branching routes. You are doing the hard mode big army route that assumes you know what youre doing. That mission 3/4 you got wrecked on were the hard route. Retreat in mission 2 instead of fighting for the easy route. (in fact mission 4 you did was an entirely optional side mission) On mission 4, you can replenish squads. You can go to the prison and buy more guys to replenish your squads. Its clearly marked on your map and you go there during the story. Also again, you did mission 4 the hard way. There are multiple routes where you can take the hill before starting the rebellion, so you dont have to split task. Or you can get the tank controller by selling the guy and go up to the mayor that way, though i suspect you have to assault back down (i didnt try that). You can also freely aquire a guerrila guy on this map who has c4. And by using the apc that is also free once you join the cartel, pre place c4 everywhere to blow up all the cartel shit once the rebellion starts. You are literally bashing your head on a wall until it gives in, its super frustrating to watch. edit: also its pertty easy to get a cartel tank on mission 4. One is unmanned you can just get in. You can steal as many as you want, they just need driving skills if you burn em out. I left that mission with 4 tanks and a bradly more. Also, you can smoke the atgms. Bradlies have smoke. And most infantry has/can get smoke. Also on mission 3 you did was an active protection system for a tank you coulda got that just wrecks the atgms, or you could sell it to the integrators to get the rights to buy a bradley/some other nice stuff from their outpost and 3500 goodwill. double edit, also vehicles burning out doesnt mean they are destroyed. You can get back in when the fire goes away and repair them. Such as when your bradly got hit after you drove it into the enemy tanks gun range even when you saw it and were atgming it at 22:16 also snipers with 50 call easily kill rev sixes before they can shoot. 50 cals are all over the place, they arent hard to get. If you are properly screening your forces you wont even notice rev sixes.
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
Alright this is all good knowledge except how on god's green earth am I, a first time player, meant to know any of this? Like the retreat path being a different campaign path. This is compounded by the fact that many of the side objectives are either buggy, aren't marked or directly cause other events in the mission, some of them forcing the main objective to move along, for example. This is why I said someone who has played through it could probably do it without save scumming (MAYBE) but that's because they already know what to do. Having to play a game with a strategy guide ready and always reloading any time you make a choice to make sure you made the right one or whenever you lose any unit loses all the magic of actually having a persistent force and a branching narrative in the first place. If you save scum every single time you lose any unit at all, then you're completely removing the point of the persistent army anyway. If you reload every time you make any choice just to make sure you made the right one, then any tension from making that choice is gone. There's a reason that people enjoy playing on AFTER they lose a member in XCOM (or in the case of the original, after they lose their first 37 members). That's not the way this game plays. I know I can get back in after a fire, but that doesn't matter if the tanks are just going to kill the crew seconds later (here's a hint: that's exactly what the tanks do). And yes, that was the first time I'd engaged those tanks with my bradley. So I was seeing if my gun would do anything helpful - like disabling them so I can have more time to put more of the ATGMs that are barely fucking scratching the thing into it. I'm sorry I didn't play completely perfectly in my literal first battle in that scenario, next time I'll just lie and re-record the mission after beating it so I can act like a jackass genius bro
@lordpeevisoftweed
@lordpeevisoftweed 2 місяці тому
​@@RimmyDownunder its not that you didnt play perfectly, thats completely fine. Its that you very much ignored things the game went out of its way to show you. EX: the first mission, you get shown the utility of having someone hide and spot for your atgms so they can fire from out of range, literally before the first shot is fired. You are taught to hide before you are taught to shoot in the tutorial, and you are forced to arrange your forces with proper screen, and then forced to fall back after the ambush. The second mission, you get shown how preparation, and retreat is fully expected and acceptable as long as you keep the objectives, and how combined arms is king. Third mission does a whole lot to show that you should make use of utility and prepare before a battle (it really hypes up emp/hacking as well). The final battle is clearly telegraphed from a few minutes in. You just really didnt pay attention. Mission 3 had a clear pop up when the movement guys wanted to stay and fight with you saying you wouldnt be able to retreat. By that point you had to have seen the movement forces, and the legion forces massing, so the game very clearly paused and said 'hey you want to fight that army with some ragtag survivors and a bunch of shitty militia?" and you said yes. Then you chose to stick with the shitty militia and try what even they considered a ridiculous mission in a totally optional side quest. and got your shit pushed in further. That bradly fight i was talking about for example, you can see your ai ally throws some platforms that have the same guns as what you have available to you/on your bradly so you can watch them die and see that its a bad idea. Even thhen, Its not that you did it the first time with the bradly v tanks. but you repeatedly threw your whole team at them in gun range in multiple back to back clips. You did the same thing over and over just save scumming to make it work. You know exactly what path they will take, and that your atgms outrange it. You know smoke worked the first time, as it made it miss its shots. And you saw how your own smoke was making you miss your shots. But you just kept trying to make your gun line strategy work instead of trying different strategies That mission is literally the training wheels for future missions when the tanks roam freely and you wont have support from the ai nor as much clear space and tools to do it. (they even have 1 assualt go through an enclosed building area with good lines of sight, and another across an open plain.) TLDR: Its not a skill issue, its a reading/attention issue. A ton of your complaints had solutions that were told/demonstrated in game, or it was telegraphed what was going to happen. I assume its the struggle of recording and playing at the same time, and thats understandable, but you really roasted the shit out this game when it gave you all the tools to solve the problems. This is not a 'get good' or 'you bad' comment, this is a please read/listen to what the game says atleast, as if i hadnt played the game first i probably wouldve taken your word on this game and missed out on what is likely my favorite RTS yet. No other game has matched the combined arms apeal to me. (also most your units dont matter, they are expendable. You can always have a different fresh crew come in to man the vehicle after the battle is over. You get hundreds of replacement troops, you can get about 100 in the infiltration mission alone and usually alteast a half dozen new squads per mission, sometimes way more Only the ones who survive the grinder to become elite matter. Later in the game once you relink with founders you can get a free abrams, bradly, supply trucks, and crew for them after nearly every mission and some missions have frankly stupid numbers of vehicles lying around.)
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
It's almost like your favourite game is a subjective matter and my opinion on it doesn't control yours unless you let it for some weird reason. The game relies on you save scumming due to it featuring massive missions that affect all ongoing missions and no ability to replenish wounded squads inside of those long missions. That's not fun for me. It takes what is a fascinating game for me and ruins it by making it impossible to make mistakes and keep going. A bug in my first open world mission preventing me from having the Abrams made the next mission awful, the game has an awful lack of respect for a players time.
@lordpeevisoftweed
@lordpeevisoftweed 2 місяці тому
@@RimmyDownunder the abrams wouldnt have helped in that next mission against those tanks, it wouldve gotten slaughtered same as the bradly. You save scummed to make bad tactics work, if you wouldve used the tactics the game told you and tutorialed you it wouldve been easy is what im saying. And you gave it a review my guy. You literally game journalist ignored tutorial and gave a review saying game to hard. Ive watched you play a ton of other games with similar mechanics before and not done that. Last train home for example was very mechanically similar but you didnt just charge your troops in and save scum till it worked there, and you actually read/listened to what went on there. so i wouldve trusted your review of the game is what im saying. Its totally valid not to like the game, im not saying your subjective opinion is wrong. Im saying your review is wrong the same way someone not figuring out how to reload or loot corpses would say arma 3 was to hard because how can you beat a whole army with just 30 bullets when one enemy can sometimes take like 6 even if you land every shot.
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
Yeah you're missing the point entirely. "Bad tactics" my ass, tactics do not mean omniscience and prediction, which is my primary issue with the game. You didn't see 99% of my reloads, you just saw one highlighted section. It was my best shot at killing the tanks (because of them turning their turrets to get Gun Disabled and because my heavy turret was just down the road to finish off anything that got through). I could have reloaded 15 minutes earlier and done a different objective differently so I could have brought anything else that could possibly scratch the tanks over, but that's not "tactics", that's fucking save scumming time travel, and with how arduous and random this game can be, a further waste of my time, time spent not having fun. If I don't know that suddenly a full wave of nothing but the biggest BS the game has to offer was on the way, I'm not going to dedicate all my resources to fighting specifically that - real tactics say 'don't pool every single AT asset in a single location'. If I had then been attacked by something armoured on the right I'm sure I'd hear the same smug 'bad tactics'. Especially when the game has 12 other objectives it's constantly throwing at you, or random attacks (like the artillery), knowing the perfect order to do things in or have your guys deployed in is impossible without reloading due to the number of curveballs each mission throws, often with no warning, and any attrition on those critical units is usually permanent. And in missions like Tortuga, the level of enemy resistance is just insane, that's why you end up doing incredibly cringey and cheesy attacks where you send a single unit forward, then creep artillery or ATGMs into range to exploit the fact that the AI wouldn't just sally forth like they should in reality. AI should not just accept being slowly bombed into oblivion, which remains an eternal, boring strategy in these games. Exploiting AI and in the case of this game mission scripts is not great gameplay design, and that's what most of the 'tactics' in this game require. Step forward, trigger the unit spawn, retreat to prepared positions, do it again and again. It's all well and good to jerk yourself off with "well I would have had a stealth recon team set up with an EMP and I would have converted the technicals all to recoilless variants and timed the airstrike perfectly" but that requires that you KNOW that those are needed ahead of time. The game utterly fails to communicate the requirements of future missions, and even inside of the mission itself, and with permanent and sudden punishments for even minor lapses in attention along a long front. Spamming pause every 0.2 seconds to check if a stray ATGM is approaching your line isn't a fun and entertaining thing to do, and it makes for an awful video too. It's not like stealth is some grand solution either, shit is very unreliable and the initial mission didn't do a masterful job of demonstrating that because if you just stand in the bottom right hand of the map, you don't even have to use it. When I DID use it, my units were discovered, opened fire and triggered the fail mission script - which was triggered at the same time as the success one and played both scripts at once, because again, this game is buggy. The game has many problems with pathfinding (vehicles will just ram each other and buildings are hell for infantry fighting, even using the set frontline button) and the missions are just badly designed at times - there is no fucking reason they should spawn your army directly in the enemy's line of fire in New Tortuga. That's just terrible, terrible mission design. The game has a lot of fascinating systems, but its missions are poorly designed while being excessively long and let it down heavily.
@jamescousins9216
@jamescousins9216 2 місяці тому
As far as Legion's units being incredibly strong: I'd chalk that up to "Lore doesn't always mean good gameplay". Yeah, Terminators are supposed to be stupidly powerful, using sci-fi future technology in infantry meant to rip tanks apart and tanks meant to solo entire armored formations. But is fighting that overwhelmingly powerful an enemy fun? Maybe. Guerrilla warfare is interesting. X-Com's whole difficulty curve is, in theory, based on making you find ways to force unfair fights on the aliens because you can't win a slugfest, even with a numbers advantage. But if you get it wrong, like if the player can't figure out how the game's supposed to be controlled or handle constant micromanaging, then it's just a frustrating impenetrable wall. That's why I think a programmable "Auto-Behavior" button is so crucial to these high-detail games, like BfG:A. This just isn't the 80s and 90s where fussing over every shell and missile is the point or fighting the computer is the point. There has to be a gameplay flow, and at a certain point you just have to let the player give orders to some units, look away to deal with a problem, and come back to find the units did what they were supposed to do.
@dimas3829
@dimas3829 Місяць тому
lmao, what an advice to a commnader "look the other way while your troops executing the last order and hope for the best"
@jamescousins9216
@jamescousins9216 Місяць тому
@@dimas3829 Welcome to life. You, in fact, cannot micromanage everything. You're not The Special. What you think you have control over, you probably don't. Learn. Adapt. Do what you can with what you have.
@generalshock4359
@generalshock4359 Місяць тому
@@dimas3829 that is literally EVERY SINGLE ARMY MISSION IN REAL LIFE how are you this stupid?
@daspence2374
@daspence2374 2 місяці тому
might be one of those games where the only way to experience the fun parts that you want to play, like customizing the army type thing, you just got to have the game on a difficulty that is too easy, because even if it feels to easy the moment you raise the difficulty it becomes an unfun slog
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
is not unfair... you just need to think... on realistic on bullet will kill one of your dudes... you need to play safe like using tatics... having ambushes is key to not lose units. like a resistance would...
@mortarion9813
@mortarion9813 2 місяці тому
The difficulty spike between the tutorial and the rest of the game is pretty bad game design. Also Jesus Christ, Arlindo really is in nearly every comment. The game's dick must be sore.
@daspence2374
@daspence2374 2 місяці тому
​@@ArlindoBuriti not sure if you replied to the wrong comment, my comment was on similar games that have really interesting mechanics but the lower difficulties feel to easy and the harder difficulties are just too tedious for a lot of us to find them fun to play... i dont talk about fairness or balancing just the lack of a happy medium of not baby easy well also not such tedious slog you cant just casually play which is a common problem of the genre
@unnamedenemy9
@unnamedenemy9 2 місяці тому
​@@ArlindoBuritiyou can literally lose a mission because of RNG in a cutscene. You can lose missions because you missed something optional two missions earlier. That is *absolutely* unfair.
@therabidsquid432nerf9
@therabidsquid432nerf9 2 місяці тому
@@unnamedenemy9can you give me some examples of losing missions because you didn’t do something a few missions ago?
@Rezec75
@Rezec75 2 місяці тому
The grind in the game emulates the HOPELESSNESS of the setting beautifully.
@shadow_onyx5016
@shadow_onyx5016 2 місяці тому
I got this game on release day, and watching this video (which I'm happy to see a few people making videos on) I find myself looking through diffrent options like the Abrams he could have grabbed, game is quite difficult but I love the idea of having to bounce between multiple smaller battles on a grand scale! I'm an empire at war modded player, and the homewolrd aspect of all your troops have meaning is amazing to me, this game has so many diffrent options its like a teller tale games / rts / homeworld and It's such a cool and I'd day unique with how it plays
@manwithaplan5503
@manwithaplan5503 2 місяці тому
The key to the latter half of the Santa Fe mission is reloading 30 times so your air support can finally hit the largest target west of the Mississippi. That or cycling through fuel and supply trailers for 5 minutes to ready the free Abrams during the previous mission... or more like after it because refueling and resupplying it in the middle of the last frontline of that mission is virtually impossible. So you have to stay on the map for about 5-10 minutes after the fighting is done. This can be a beatable, enjoyable game... if you have the patience to go over every detail of the map with a fine toothed comb... several times over the course of no less than 5 reloads per mission. All that being said, having only beaten the Cartel Mission, so far, I like Terminator: Dark Fate, *Reload*
@red-2895
@red-2895 2 місяці тому
(Minor spoilers?) After beating the game myself.... Its alright. Keeping the heroes alive is hard but kind of(?) Rewarding, hell if big bob survives you can yoink a intergrator tank in a mission, and if kondo and the other hacker lives you can take control of legion units with em. Edit: also dont play on hard mode for your first playthrough like rimmy. Your just hurting yourself at that point. Also if you play realistic god save your soul that shit is impossible
@Mr.Zilla...
@Mr.Zilla... Місяць тому
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@phoenixthehound4928
@phoenixthehound4928 2 місяці тому
Im going to say this has been my favorite rts....probably of 2023 and 2024. Iv been having so much fun with it.
@medhathobo
@medhathobo 2 місяці тому
Lore accurate terminators? Certain defeat is rare enough that I enjoy it.
@duskygaminguniverse3747
@duskygaminguniverse3747 2 місяці тому
Your supposed to have the tank for that mission, it makes it so much easier so thats kinda failure of looting, the Abrams can like triple tap tanks if your at a goid angle and can possibly punch through and get a double kill
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
he does not loot shit, so yeah there is no way he can complet the game, is like home world... if you dont do this you will fail hard.
@packwolf445
@packwolf445 2 місяці тому
I mean he does things alot in games where he ignores or disregards entire things. Like in a Aliens game, he straight up argues with chat because he forgot you can leave missions and buy better gear, and go back to where you left off, and he complains about and shits on the games difficulty because of it.
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
@@packwolf445 wtf are you even talking about? I didn't 'forget' you can leave missions in that game, I did that multiple times. And by about the halfway mark, hell I'd say the quartermark of the game you've already bought everything you could possibly want because supply wasn't really an issue in that game, going back just means more fatigue generated and there wasn't any better gear to buy at that point, you just go until your resources or stress force you out. I loved Dark Descent save for the ending.
@packwolf445
@packwolf445 2 місяці тому
@RimmyDownunder literally on the first mission, people were telling you in chat that there was infact a better weapon and some gear you could buy to make fighting the queen easier, which is also something you looked at prior to deploying for the first time on the map (you couldn't afford it at the time, but you could later, just prior to the queen) and then you get pissy and argued with chat and outright denied it. Then you went on to complain on how bullshit the fight was. There's even dozens of comments on that vod of people talking about it
@SupremeCommanderGray
@SupremeCommanderGray 2 місяці тому
I was debating getting this game, thank you Rimmy for saving me and my money, I will instead buy one of your plushies for about the same cost
@apuffofpink8484
@apuffofpink8484 2 місяці тому
Rimmy, you'll probably not see this, but I just wanna say you're one of my favourite youtubers to watch when I'm down. Just earlier I lost a pet and this is one of the first videos I'm watching to be a little cheered up
@Delmworks
@Delmworks 2 місяці тому
The terminator series really did release two bangers and then drives themselves into the ground for no reason for the rest of time
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
if they made a tv show based around this game it would be awesome.
@harmlessratz7151
@harmlessratz7151 2 місяці тому
Wrong timeline sadly
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 2 місяці тому
there was a reason, people kept on buying the brand...
@tripodranger7873
@tripodranger7873 2 місяці тому
I was thinking about this game/video before bed last night, and I came to a realization. It's very telling about this game's design that you can leave the last tutorial mission with barely anyone alive, but skipping it gives you everybody automatically. And the first real mission has a tank you basically need to get, but you need a tank crew to do so, which you could have potentially lost in the tutorial. It feels like the game is designed around you doing the missions nearly perfectly, doing every "optional" objective, grabbing everything that's possible to grab, and leaving with everyone, or nearly everyone, alive. Or, like Rimmy said, it feels like the missions are designed for a more typical RTS, where you start with a specific set of units no matter what, but they're shoved in a game where the units you start with is based on your performance in previous missions.
@smokeybear1597
@smokeybear1597 2 місяці тому
Yea the only difference about skipping the tutorial is unit experience heck I stayed in haven back just to farm kills to get my guys to level 3-4 on all of them
@dimas3829
@dimas3829 Місяць тому
Only on higher difficulties. Rimmy is his own enemy in that part of making his own life insufferable.
@FreedomFighterEx
@FreedomFighterEx 2 місяці тому
The unit bark when they are on the last man is heartbreaking.
@zork_vision
@zork_vision Місяць тому
Bro, your points about "not recommended why" is actually a exactly best recommendation of opposite. Devs make you worry about your troops like its actual troops under your actual command
@Hardbass-yl6be
@Hardbass-yl6be 2 місяці тому
Forgetting the Abrams at Abiquiu will definitely make the next mission harder. Edit: And being so assured that the game is easy (because it is on Demo), then gets flabbergasted when the game decided to kick his ass on Hard difficulty is head shaking.
@RimmyDownunder
@RimmyDownunder 2 місяці тому
I was "so assured" the game was easy because all 3 of the intro missions were incredibly boring and I have nothing else to judge the game off of. It's almost like sudden difficulty spikes aren't good design, and those intro missions are horrific slogs to get through so I figured making them tougher would make it more fun instead of just boring.
@KillerOrca
@KillerOrca 2 місяці тому
Theres a fine line to walk between "too hard to be fun" and "challanging enough to keep you going." Dark Souls and similar manage the latter. This game, I feel, pulls more to the former. I agree with the unconscious bit, and maybe a little bit of plot armor protection for people too.
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
Is not too hard you need to micro your units alot more, normal is the difficulty for him... he should play in that... imagine playing on realistic... there is no plot armor, every unit that you control dies. the way he is playing the game is like most people are playing this game, they dont think about the units, just do whatever and whatever... in higher dificulties units need to be micro... realistic is the only way to play this game... but i'm going to get destroyed alot... yes and that is why you save alot.... after that go for a iron man run .
@KillerOrca
@KillerOrca 2 місяці тому
@@ArlindoBuriti So just a REALLY niche interest in terms of game style?
@andrewmeyer3599
@andrewmeyer3599 2 місяці тому
@@KillerOrca More conscious in terms of game style. XPGamers made a video on this and because he was a lot more cautious of how he was playing and moving his units around, he was making pretty short work of the convoys and doing the side objectives with relative ease
@johnjoe5846
@johnjoe5846 2 місяці тому
@@andrewmeyer3599 shack also had the abrams which is critical for anti armor
@bengrogan9710
@bengrogan9710 2 місяці тому
I mean...the entire point of Termis is they STEAMROLL humanity - it makes perfect sense that micro is the only way to survive
@NotA-Real-Therapist
@NotA-Real-Therapist 2 місяці тому
I feel ya pain. Trial and error. I went mad at the end of my tortuga vid and decided to place music regardless of copyright because honestly it gets stale retrying over and over
@kurokaze511
@kurokaze511 2 місяці тому
"What happened to protect and serve?" The people who made this game apparently don't realize that's not an oath or anything, it's just the LAPD's ironic motto.
@user-pe8yi9uh7d
@user-pe8yi9uh7d Місяць тому
just a joke on motto, cmon man
@MrPlauge
@MrPlauge 2 місяці тому
HOWS NOBODY NOTICING THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN THIS AND MEN OF WAR??
@majormajorasic
@majormajorasic 2 місяці тому
The game needs sort-of Hero+Commoner combination where you can get the detailed units/squads AND 'disposable' units/squads you get off a template build. So you get to keep the large scale action of the maps while not having to micro manage literally every single squad and depend on save scumming as a tactic. Like you can get infantry AT squad Cheek-Crushers 1, 2 and 3 which got RPG, ATGM and Plasma loadouts respectively into a mission you're told is going to have extensive enemy armor and you support them with 5 Infantry AT Squad(ATGM) out of your stockpile of 9 of those. Bit like Dawn of War, you got generic units and you got hero units or auxiliaries(commissars/psykers)though that comparison is a bit off since here you're able to field entire army of hero units/squads.
@ArlindoBuriti
@ArlindoBuriti 2 місяці тому
the ideia of the game is that you need to micro the units... it is a puzzle game not really RTS on high difficulties... on realistic it becomes a completly different game... alot of your units will die and you need to see supplies, you cant have everyone... you cant have what you are saying in this game because one bullet will literally kill a squad member on realistic... one spider if can get you by surprise can kill all of your units.
@generalshock4359
@generalshock4359 Місяць тому
​@@ArlindoBuriti the point is if your rts is a puzzle and not a rts THATS BAD GAME DESIGN because people didnt look at the price of this and went yeah i could go for a fun puzzle that wasnt this games selling point people saw rts and went yeah i wanna have fun using rts mechanics and getting rewarded for it and this game sorta went "Naaaaw you can use all of our mechanics and still have no chance at winning without save scumming." your skills when playing these games are irrelevant because the levels are designed for you to have passed knowledge/tools of the time you already beat it or 10 different failures reaching it. its like walking into a boss fight that requires tools from previous optional fights and you will never know what you were supposed to fight before reaching the boss fight so now you have to go back 2-5 hours of progress to go grab the tool that you didnt know you needed in the first place to win and you have to do that for every challenge even tho the game tells you to just do what ever you want in free roam
@generalshock4359
@generalshock4359 Місяць тому
@@ArlindoBuriti also dude you completely ignored him when he said disposable units as in you get them fore free each time you start a mission
@cursedhawkins1305
@cursedhawkins1305 2 місяці тому
Hey Rimmy, I doubt you'll make a video out of this, in fact I don't expect it, but there's a few mods for Warhammer 40K Gladius that change/add new mechanics and units to the roster across the board such as CCO (Callipygian Complete Overhaul) adding more neutrals to discover in the wild like for example the Venus Mantraps along with having varies other pockets of neutrals from other factions such as Wild Kroot, Eldar Guardians and Dark Reapers protecting a giant Webway Gate, to Devian's entire collection of additional heroes for all the factions with their "Heroes of Legends" series like Jain-Zar for the Eldar, Gorgutz and Grimskull for the Orks, even bloody Sindri for Chaos, if there's a hero you might think of chances are Devian has them somewhere in that list.
@St0ckh01m
@St0ckh01m 2 місяці тому
53 min Rimmy video, I think im in heaven
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