The Valtteri Bottas Problem
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7 місяців тому🏁 Uncover the Secrets Behind Mercedes' Formula One Turmoil! 🚗💨 Dive into the intense rivalry between Lewis Hamilton and George Russell as we dissect 'The Valtteri Bottas Problem.' Explore how Bottas's departure shook the once-steady Mercedes team, leading to conflicts, surprises, and unexpected challenges. Discover the impact on Mercedes' performance and the Formula One landscape as we delve into the past and speculate about what might have been. Don't miss this intriguing analysis of Formula One's hottest topic! 🏎️🔥
With Valterri Bottas no longer at Mercedes alongside Lewis Hamilton, it has thrown the former great team into complete disarray. With two top-tier drivers, each keen to prove something, the balance of power has been constantly shifting and the team isn't sure where to go. With this, it's led to disharmony amongst the Brackley team. Was it wise to replace Bottas with Russell? If not, then why? Would George have stayed at Williams? All this to come!
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In the world of Formula 1, the eternal debate of 'law vs team orders' has once again taken center stage in 2023. The Mercedes team, led by Toto Wolff, faces a critical decision as they grapple with the dynamics between George Russell and Lewis Hamilton. With the emergence of young talent George Russell, their venture has added another layer of complexity to F1 news. As F1 enthusiasts eagerly await the latest updates, the question of whether Bottas was a better second fiddle to Hamilton or if Russell will upset the established order becomes a hot topic. Stay tuned for more on F1 2023, as the Mercedes F1 team navigates the tricky waters of team orders and the relentless pursuit of Grand Prix glory.
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@LawVS 7 місяців тому
How did George get into this mess? ukposts.info/have/v-deo/nI9ygqCch5iBrJs.html
@kurtru5selcrowe607 7 місяців тому
Because LH was supposed to win an 8th title and retire 🤷♂️
@F1SCR007 7 місяців тому
@@kurtru5selcrowe607 Thats a bit of an obscure statement. Supposed to win. Was that reference to 2021. Or was he supposed to win in 2022 or is he supposed to win in the future. Hmmmmm Clarification please
@Coffeeblackplease 7 місяців тому
George gives me the vibes of wanting to prove he is number one material but he has to just get experience and he will get his chance
@atthesink 7 місяців тому
cause George has a ego that struggles to fit in the pitlane and instead of spending 1-2 seasons learning from the best driver he only sees Lewis as someone hes already better than and looks to prove it even if it cost the team .Also were you Goku from team4star?
@zenklar 7 місяців тому
oh boy I cant wait for the follow up video to this after Qatar Lap 1
@camn7542 7 місяців тому
Valtteri is underrated IMO, he talks about having to deal with the pressure of being in Lewis's shadow and how it affected him mentally. We could see how good he was when the reigns were off at the start of his Alfa stint when the Alfa was still decent
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Of course. He did good and should be proud of his work. Lewis won't forget it.
@SSJWAnimation 7 місяців тому
This is actually a very good take and something which I haven’t really heard people talk about. I think bottas deserved more respect with more than singular year contract extensions. He was a vital point in Mercs most dominant era.
@Sepi-bx5qd 7 місяців тому
Yep, that. Yes, Bottas was on average slower than Hamilton, but Bottas still kept Hamilton honest especially in the qualifyings. And on his best days, could beat the reigning champion in races and qualifyings. And among all that, he was the perfect team player.
@peterl3417 7 місяців тому
@@Sepi-bx5qdI understand the excess pressure to keep him in good form, but a 2/3 year deal at least would have been much better. Like if they were going to stress the dude out that much, just let him have SOME security, or he’s going to leave eventually lol
@samuraibirds917 7 місяців тому
@@Sepi-bx5qd Exactly. The narrative that Bottas only served solely as a wingman is wrong. Bottas actually said that he fought Lewis when he came to Merc, because he wanted to prove himself but that he eventually gave up and nearly retired, literally admitting that “Lewis’s consistency and performances overall for the whole season, I just couldn’t match”. Bottas out of all drivers had the best qualifying pace and he indeed outperformed Hamilton at times. There relationship as teammates also started to bear fruit and one example is that Hamilton was still fighting for the WDC in 2017 but gave up his podium place at the last lap of the Hungarian GP for Bottas to take the 3 points. GR fans said that Russel shouldn't give up his podium and that it was Lewis's fault for the crash in Singapore but this only caused Ferrari to close in and it almost happened again last race. Consistency is the key word here. Drivers like Max, Alonso and Lewis won't miss their racing line completely, or crumble under that pressure but they bring it home. Bottas despite being the slower driver, managed to do that plenty of times.
@The_ZeroLine 6 місяців тому
Not sure Bottas would have the pace in this mediocre Mercedes to even be in the situations Russell is.
@ericrickert3045 7 місяців тому
Yes, they should have listened to Lewis and offered Valtteri a multi-year deal.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
It was a tough decision. Keep Bottas and risk Russell walking or bring Russell up and risk a change in team harmony which could hinder future seasons.
@OgoTheKeeper 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS Russell is not a generational talent. They should have let him walk. They could easily sign Lando once Lewis retired or Piastri, Lawson, Leclerc, etc. There are so many good options. Russell does not stand out from the pack.
@TheoF1 7 місяців тому
@@OgoTheKeeper You say that yet he keeps up with Lewis (even beat him last season), got points with Williams and consistently amazing performances. Saying he doesn't stand out at all doesn't make sense when he has proved many times he does
@soup1029 7 місяців тому
@@TheoF1yeah this guy is just jumping on the “George Russell bad” bandwagon
@Mortimer992 7 місяців тому
@@OgoTheKeeperWell even if Lewis suddenly retires at the end of this season i dint think that Piastri or Lando would be likely to switch. Charles is another story but I’m not sure either. Mercedes is no Ferrari, where even if they’re bad you’re still able to call yourself a Ferrari driver. But only time will tell.
@sloveniesta 7 місяців тому
I'm happy you brought this up. I'm glad Valteri is out because he seems like hes having a better time. Mercedes disrespected him and got what they deserved picking up George.
@iybjs5308 7 місяців тому
You’d have thought that after rosberg v Hamilton that a double number 1 team won’t work as well as having a 1 and a 2 like there was with bottas. It’s not that I think Russel isn’t good enough, it’s that he’s to good for the role he’s being asked to play
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
He's in too much of a hurry.
@shaikhanis3193 7 місяців тому
The biggest mistake Lewis did was to not test the W13 in the simulator
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
A lot of misfires for sure.
@givemeabreak8784 7 місяців тому
They not only tested on the simulator but built it with the help of AI. The problem was that the simulator failed to predict bouncing.
@Lukeywoodsey 7 місяців тому
@@givemeabreak8784you can't simulate bouncing unless you know it's already there
@Lewythefly 7 місяців тому
The bouncing wasn't the whole problem though
@samfields3086 7 місяців тому
The biggest mistake Mercedes did was not listen to Hamilton with the development of the car as we can see with his input he has the W14 operating better and he is carrying the team and put them into P2
@baseventura07 7 місяців тому
In my opinion suzuka showed it's not only Russel. Hamilton did the same thing in the first stint as Russel did in the last and it just proves that Mercedes hasn't learned something since 2016. The real question is, how will Mercedes react. If they do nothing, it's 2016 all over again, just this time they're fighting for podiums instead of wins. Or they name one driver as no.1 but either they'll lose their 7 time champ or their future.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Exactly. George isn't entirely at fault, but his actions bring out the worst in Lewis which is no good for anyone at Merc ESPECIALLY those who rely on Lewis.
@Mortimer992 7 місяців тому
@@LawVSwell it just shows who Lewis is. I for my part like it when the drivers in a team are close to each other seeing what Nando and Max are doing with their cars in contrast to their respective Nr2 makes me cry out loud. I prefer closer setups like Ferrari McLaren and Mercedes. I mean it was no fun seeing Lewis dominate without even having any competition from his own teammate.
@heru777media 7 місяців тому
are you new to F1? Ya never heard of Alonso, and Rosberg???
@baseventura07 7 місяців тому
@@heru777media what's your point? 2007 it was a "war" at McLaren between Hamilton and Alonso and 2014 to 2016 it was a "war" at Mercedes with Rosberg My point is, if Mercedes doesn't act rn ,we will have another "war" there and it's not all Russells fault
@AnimaDweller 7 місяців тому
The thing is, this will not go like when Schumacher just left Ferrari back in 2006 (mostly due to exterior factors) and leave room for the new guys. Lewis is not going to step down, he'll feel like he can go just like Alonso is right now probably until he wins the 8th title and we're not even sure if he'll get a shot soon. If Mercedes doesn't handle this, Russell might start to wonder if he should even stay at Mercedes. Or worse, they might actually get a shot to a title and end up losing because their 2 drivers keep fighting.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
True. Lewis isn't done yet and he won't be until he's got that 8th title. Michael, in 2006, kinda knew an 8th title wasn't guaranteed so he just had fun and enjoyed his tussle with Alonso for that year.
@robotnikkkk001 7 місяців тому
=MICHAEL WENT BC OF HE DISAGREED WITH FIAT BOSSES WHO WANTED TO CHANGE MASSA ON KIMI BC OF *_HE_* WANTED TO LIKE......MAKE FELIPE HIS _REAL_ SUCCESSOR AND TEACH EVERYTHING HE KNEW ...........AND BC OF THAT HIS DECISION.....HIS ENGINE WENT OFF AT SUZUKA,THO...........BC OF *FIAT'S REVENGE* .....
@ryugatsuchiya9018 7 місяців тому
@@robotnikkkk001 is your caps button stuck mate. u can use windows on-screen keyboard to switch the caps off. Or maybe you're just being an annoying twat.
@tijmendr9006 7 місяців тому
@@robotnikkkk001calm down my guy
@FrancisFjordCupola 7 місяців тому
Mercedes is not obliged to keep signing Hamilton on. They can let him go, just like that. Could be ugly, but they should have done it already. Only going to get worse in the future.
@entreguesaosbichos 7 місяців тому
The problem here is that Mercedes is in a complicated position and can't say much to Russell because the understanding at the time Russell was hired was that by now Lewis would have left the sport and Russell would be leading the team. mercedes and Hamilton did not expect this huge drop in performance with the new regulations. Mercedes now also doesn't want to risk losing Russell, but the truth is that this risk is becoming real, especially if we take into account that the renewal of Lewis until 2025, in practice, will be a renewal until 2027 because mercedes won't be able to win before 2026 and Hamilton will want to continue chasing his 8th title which means goerge would have to take a secondary roll for many years and i dont think he will be willing to wait that long.
@stomer8125 7 місяців тому
Another great take. So glad I subbed back at 1.3k. You deserve all the growth 🎉
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 7 місяців тому
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍..
@user-ri3is5jr7y 7 місяців тому
Tbh I don’t hate the scenario. It is not fun when Merc and RB are rock solid and Ferrari is the only one who has problems lol
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
At least Ferrari now seem a little more sorted.
@VG61 7 місяців тому
Well narrated, I enjoyed your way of doing this... Thanks!
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
You're welcome!
@willtalley4753 7 місяців тому
Not gonna lie I saw this coming from a long way off. During their hay respective hay days, Red Bull, Ferrari, and Mercedes all had clear #2 drivers. I think having two drivers that have every ambition to outdo the other is just a recipe for chaos (I.e Prost/Senna, Hamilton/Rosberg, Verstappen/Riccardo(to a slightly lesser extent)).
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
You CAN have two good drivers, but you need them to understand that the team comes first and sometimes calls need to be made if momentum sways towards one driver.
@AdminAbuse 7 місяців тому
During their*
@willtalley4753 7 місяців тому
@@AdminAbuse Thanks haha
@AndyFromBeaverton 7 місяців тому
I love this squabble. Keep it up, George!
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Yes it provides some excitement for fans but I feel for the people who work at Mercedes.
@apblolol 7 місяців тому
Bottas may be one of my favorite drivers on the grid, and i dont think it was a bad decision to move. I do think him not being in a top car is pulling out more of his flaws but that first season in alpha showed he still had the ability to preform/outpreform his car. He would be a great wingman but merc was a terrible place for him mentally. Getting into the first driver seat as a mentor i feel is the beat thing he could do. Lets just hope he gets a rocket ship when audi takes over the team
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
In reality, it was good for his mind to move. He seems happier.
@apblolol 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS legacy wise merc may have been the best place for him, but in his words he never had the team or consistency to beat the more dominant Hamilton
@mukethe 7 місяців тому
I really like how the videos are staged in this channel! The attention to detail and creativity is truly impressive. It adds an extra level of entertainment and engagement. I subscribed!
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Thank you, pal!
@brocktify 7 місяців тому
What, you don't miss the rows and rows of books?
@mukethe 7 місяців тому
It's how easy the approach is...
@MrDragonballzjp 7 місяців тому
I feel like George came at the wrong time. Lewis is still in the team and you can't have two Alpha-Driver in a team. It disturbs the harmony. McLaren are slowly at that point with Oscars progression. He is looming over Lando's neck.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
If Lewis retired after this year, George would've been well timed to step up...but Lewis isn't and now George needs to accept that and do what is right for the team.
@resathe6760 7 місяців тому
Oscar is definitely not there yet. He is a very good rookie and I totally think he can get to Lando's level but for now his race pace is definitely behind Lando's. He needs to figure out his tyre management first to really become a threat and I'm sure he will be figuring it out. But all that doesn't really matter anyways until McLaren can give them a (consistent) race winning car, which they haven't yet. Also Lando and Carlos were pretty on par their second year at McLaren and it wasn't really a problem either. It totally depends what type of guys your drivers are.
@TheFeelhigh 7 місяців тому
this also depends on car preference and development ;)@@resathe6760
@BluRacer7 7 місяців тому
Remember when Wherlein was gonna be an upcoming star talent for Mercedes to partner Lewis but then lost his F1 future after 2017 due to him potentially being very difficult to work with? Yeah we can see this happening right now with Russell if he doesn't just accept the No.2 role for the time being when Lewis does eventually retire.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Fair point. George needs to calm down and wait. He's in the team now. He'll get his leadership chance soon.
@rk-wy8pu 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS nope he's Mercedes only race winner since the new regulations. He's good enough to lead them.
@AdminAbuse 7 місяців тому
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@madred1842 7 місяців тому
@@rk-wy8puMate, look at his position in the championship this season. He’s nowhere near leading anything right now. He’s being caught by Lando and Ferrari might snatch the 2nd place in the constructor’s championship due to his mistakes and poor performance.
@PatrickBhardwaj 7 місяців тому
No the problem was lewis did not win 2021, If lewis won 2021 and stayed on he would have eased out of the team leader role and eventually retire also helping george replace him. Now we have a lewis who is arguably more motivated then ever and pushing very hard. Thus making it harder.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
It would have made things smoother for the grand Mercedes succession plan.
@AdminAbuse 7 місяців тому
Than* ever
@slushie8116 7 місяців тому
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@rhyansanpedro 7 місяців тому
I actually liked George when he was back at Williams but I saw him differently after that crash he had with Bottas. I gotta agree now he's just plain annoying. But yeah great points made with this video.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
He's trying too hard and needs to relax.
@crystalracing4794 7 місяців тому
Merc cannot be certain of how long Lewis wanted to drive for. Hence why they had to sign Russell, despite the obvious inconvieniences. Having said that, Russell and Albon at Williams would be scoring 50 points.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Of course, but I bet Lewis extending until 2025 was a kick in the teeth for George.
@evertonnixon5881 7 місяців тому
I had to stop this video to comment, absolutely excellent video and superbly presented, it's your best one yet. Stay blessed and keep them coming . 😂 I am a M erc fan 🤣🔥☹️
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Thanks for the support!
@Iazuz 7 місяців тому
Love this video so so true spot on mate 💯 might subscribe to this channel good content .. 😊
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Cheers, pal! 🍻
@Gollum1905 7 місяців тому
i usually dont like videos with a "what if" premise, but this one is actually very insightful. having george stay at Williams and become more of a team leader and then take Lewis seat when he retires, would have made much more sense in that regard. That way he would've learned how to be a team leader in a team with less pressure and lower stakes. You can clearly see that most of his weaknesses are from his immaturity and insecurity.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
George needs to slow down. Simple as.
@Cheiff117 7 місяців тому
Ladder Man. a great view on the situation. i feel Bottas has taken the Kimi approach and is more laid back i feel, hes been doing alot of cycling events with his partner , got to see him fly past in Scotland
@ricknineg 7 місяців тому
Let’s not forget the zero side pod concept was constantly supported by George. Hammy was against it. Hammy was right
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
If Bottas was there the concept would've been ditched for 2023.
@JMRope 7 місяців тому
I get it from the team perspective, much easier to have a lead driver. But for the spectator, it is far better when every driver out there is giving it everything to try and beat every other driver on the track, including your team mate. The 2014-16 seasons were much more entertaining than 2017-20. Keep in mind that had Hamilton accepted himself as a number 2 in his rookie season his team mate probably would have won the championship that year. But he backed himself that he could beat any other driver as he should. In 2010 Webber was leading the championship with 5 races to go yet Vettel finished one place ahead of him at 3 of the next 4, with neither of them finishing the other. That very nearly cost Red Bull their first ever drivers title.
@farhannewazkhan4223 7 місяців тому
why in both cases Fernando was the one losing titles🙄🙄
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Of course, the spectacle is great for the audience; but for the team behind the scenes it's very harrowing to see points and time being wasted.
@thechannelimashamedof2361 7 місяців тому
11:39 I think in that scenario they'd likely keep Bottas one more year just to avoid changing both drivers at once, continuity and stability and all that. Also Bottas had been the number one at Williams (back when Williams was front of the midfield!) so he could be viewed as a back stop should George (or whoever replaces the retired Lewis in that scenario) fizzles.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
True. Sudden swap.
@mikewilliams1479 7 місяців тому
I honestly think that George biggest issue is that he is Trying To Prove he is better than Lewis. That is a mistake. Bottas was massively underrated and he was fast. Defending was a bit of an issue but Bottas didn't fight Lewis instead he did as best he can for the team. Not for himself.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Yep, George needs to slow down.
@Loki-sk7bi 7 місяців тому
George reminds me of Leclerc. Joins a team and wants to dominate the former champion in a hurry to prove a point instead of learning. Too bad Mercedes was fair and Lewis is Lewis.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Yes. Definitely. Both men are in a hurry to make their teams' decision to hire them justified.
@justliech3948 7 місяців тому
Bottas made merc stable but they made him a shield for Lewis, im not sure if he was happy with that
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
It wasn't all smiles and sunshine but Bottas got a better deal than he could've expected in 2016. Retiring from F1 with 10 wins and many trophies? Not too shabby. I'm glad he's happy though and doing his own thing.
@justliech3948 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS i risk to say he's better now, with pretty much no pressure, training Zhou, all due to the "I want the other guy to win" interview message
@jungleent1972 7 місяців тому
Many teams seem to have issues searing beneath and coming out spectacularly through onboards.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
We definitely have access to way more information and things that might not have made broadcast.
@fredjames9867 7 місяців тому
It's called mclaren
@DevaOscura 7 місяців тому
They should give Lewis a Robottas as a teammate in 2026
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Valtron Robottas.
@evertonnixon5881 7 місяців тому
The only way I can see Mercedes problems is for Toto to resign ànd YOU take his place as team principal. You are correct on what you have said about George. Once again, excellent video. Stay blessed. 👍🏽💯🇯🇲🇬🇧
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Haha, Toto is way more experienced and is the right guy. However, all they gotta do is tell George to relax and gather some experience.
@heliumtrophy 7 місяців тому
Personally I could see this happening what with George being a man in a hurry and Lewis' surly behaviour towards any team-mate he feels is challenging the status quo. It's true, Valtteri brought out possibly the best in Lewis because he was almost zen-like with the car. And we've seen that when he gets a team-mate that's a bit more feisty, he tends to resort to underhand tactics and overdriving the car. I think this is only going to get worse from here and it's going to be interesting to see how Toto deals with it if he deals with it at all.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Yep. Expect contact of a major kind next year when wins are on the cards.
@genji4433 7 місяців тому
Finally an F1 youtuber who can actually talk
@GeorgeFlorian12 7 місяців тому
Dude, aren't you Goku in TFS ? I never knew that you liked F1. What a small world.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Yep that's me!
@DavidVerch 7 місяців тому
Finally someone has the same opinion as me. Bottas was consistently behind Lewis. He was the type of number 2 a champion needs.
@gandalf_thegrey 7 місяців тому
And then he wasnt.
@Bahbart 7 місяців тому
In my opinion Wolff is also to blame, he is too protective when it comes to Hamilton and a lot harsher on Russell. One should not have a favorite kid.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
They're in a tricky situation. They've got a young driver with potential and an older one who STILL is near his peak.
@EdmGameFifa_21 7 місяців тому
But when Valteri was at Mercedes, he had to deal with team orders and the reason why he left was because of team orders. Russell being there is a good choice because unlike Valteri, George didn't had any inconsistency.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
At the same time though, Lewis wanted him there and Valtteri did understand the team and the way it worked. In 2022, his presence would've been greatly appreciated in terms of stability.
@robotnikkkk001 7 місяців тому
=HE DIDNT CARE BC OF DIDNT HE CAME TO F1 FOR MONEY,THO??? ....................SO......IDEAL NUMBER 2 FOR REDBULL,HEHE
@ediltonspencer6974 7 місяців тому
Valteri didn't leave because of team orders. He realised he can't compete with Lewis, would always be a nmbr 2 at Mercedes and George was destined to have his seat sooner or later. He would end up somewhere else in any way so he opted to become a lead driver at Alfa Romeo.
@kyperactive 7 місяців тому
"Didnt have any consistency" "Mr Consistency" What?
@edennard1 7 місяців тому
No the main reason why he left was because Toto didn't want to sign him to a multi year deal also when he was with Mercedes he never missed a Q session. Let's also remember it was Toto who basically put George in the Williams so he's been heavenly involved in Georges career since George was in F2
@carlosmorgadosilva3517 7 місяців тому
I agree George has unbalanced the team. But he has something to prove, and Lewis does too, yet Lewis is being just as conflictive as George, and one wants to get on top of the other, and that leads to a never-ending increase in agression. So I think George has to chill, but Lewis has to play the team game too, since he has had his fair share of unsportive behaviour towards George.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Indeed. Two drivers with something to prove and not waiting around to do so? Definitely sounds like an accident waiting to happen.
@camerongooch9606 7 місяців тому
I've been a Russel fan for years now, I've backed him since f3. And he does feel like he's always been a step behind other drivers, no less talented but a step behind. Max being the psychopathic God given talent he is. Leclerc getting called up to the 1 seat at ferrari after 1 season at sauber, lando being mclarens number 1 driver pushing out Sainz and beating riccardo, George wallowed away at williams for years and now is in a struggling mercedes which 2 years ago was a almost guaranteed championship. I still belive George is a future champion even with his bump in Singapore which every drivers made mistakes like that. Ps And yes I know I said the same about sainz last video, I guess I'm just an optimist and also want the 2012 season back, which is the greatest season of f1 ever
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
George can do it, he just needs to slow down.
@F1SCR007 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS totally agree, his time will come but for now support the team first
@bonelesswatermelon420 7 місяців тому
Interesting point you bring up about an alternate reality with a George-Alex lineup at Williams. That duo might've been able to give Alpine a run for their money this year. Alas, we can only imagine in the world of woulda coulda shoulda.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
I think Alpine would've been OK but Williams would be closer to 50 points than in reality.
@TheAtom117 7 місяців тому
Ngl. I doubt George would've just stayed at Williams the entire time waiting on Hamilton to retire, given how desperate he seems while in Mercedes. I'd expect him at some point to try to go to an upper mid field team and try to earn a seat at a top team like Sainz did.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Of course. I'm sure Toto sensed that if a Merc move wasn't coming, George's team would look elsewhere.
@kurtru5selcrowe607 7 місяців тому
They had to bet on George because he wasn’t going to wait forever and Lewis won’t be around for ever. Get the together so George can learn from LH before he leaves. That was the smart plan with the info they had at the time. Only now LH is staying for longer than they thought and it’s screwing up that plan 🤷♂️
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Absolutely. They were stuck. If they delayed him any longer George would have walked.
@pens6564 6 місяців тому
Hello dude, I'm from Brazil and using your content to improve my english! What can I say?? I'm here since one day and i'm addicted in this great content!
@LawVS 6 місяців тому
Obrigado! Thank for you sticking with it.
@pens6564 6 місяців тому
It's nothing man, just becoming a big fan of the channel! what a precision in all your analysis in all videos with different themes.., you really have a talent for this!@@LawVS
@sailor7537 7 місяців тому
Ngl, Lewis calling Bottas his favorite teammate just might be the ultimate example of "damning with faint praise"
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
That's one way of looking at it. But at least Lewis valued him to some degree.
@legoferrari14 7 місяців тому
After Russell got a chance to drive the W11 in Hamilton's absence for Bahrain-Outer 2020 and given his current frustrations, I suspect if he was made to sit at the Williams "Kids Table" for _another year_ he probably would have had it with Toto & the Mercedes F1 management holding him back and strike out like Oscar Piastri; either switching to one of the non-Merc teams or even jumping F1 entirely for Le Mans Hypercars.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Definitely. Mercedes were stuck.
@PowerCCG 7 місяців тому
I love Lewis, one of the greatest of all time... However they did Bottas so dirty at Mercedes, he didn't enjoy being the wingman, he said it himself multiple times. Bottas deserved way better, I don't keep up much with merc right now but I do agree it does seem quite tense over there.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
It's very clinical there and they're professional. However, you feel like the soul isn't quite there. Like you see at McLaren or Red Bull.
@petejackson7976 7 місяців тому
If Bottas stayed, car development would have been rapid.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
I'm not sure about that but his presence would've made things a lot more calm.
@viniciusprado2696 7 місяців тому
Really good points, but from the perspective that George is now on a team that he worked all his carrer to be in and now the team is not at its best on the techinal side and the legendary teammate will not give up the position in the team.. is also something to considerate. George is makeing much more mistakes this season (in my opinion, just a humble brazilian kkkk) because besides 2022 been a good year for him, he still do not feel that the team looks to him and see the future. Even more when we have Lewis signed for more two years but asking for five. He don't want to be a Barrichello, Webber, Bottas, etc. They all good drivers, but will always be remmenber as number 2
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
He needs to be patient and bed himself in with the team over time. Not just rush in.
@Lewythefly 7 місяців тому
Whoa, you blame George for them keeping the zero pods? 😂 Lewis was begging for them to change direction and they didn't listen in their infinite wisdom
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Not George specifically, but the results were looking a little more hopeful and implying there could be something.
@crispybanana3198 7 місяців тому
i don't think Bottas would have kept his performance being a 2nd driver for additional 2 years honestly
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
That is definitely something to consider. 2021 was showing he wasn't at his best. But then again, maybe the 2022 spec car could've agreed with him. Alas, we'll never know for sure.
@insert_funny_name_here2321 7 місяців тому
Bottas was really good that q3 streak he had was incredible it’s sad that it looks like he’s lost his passion now
@KenaiTobin 7 місяців тому
I hope they keep him when audi joins in 2026 his experience will help them build the team
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Yep. Not even Lewis had that.
@mermils 4 місяці тому
Great video(i know its months after) Valterri Bottas is one of my favorite mercedes drivers, and my fav teammate in f1 game career modes(so many hours of play with him as teammate and the only one who didnt crash on me, it helps a lot). I like george, but i think valterri should had been there for at least 1 year or 2 for new regs, they clearly needed stability and experience, and maybe George could had stayed in Williams teaming with Albon for create a good car, or after the stable new reg join mercedes, but its just my opinion.
@LawVS 4 місяці тому
I think having Valtteri there for 2022 might have made the zero-pods concept die sooner.
@mermils 4 місяці тому
@@LawVS and his experienced feedback would help develop w14 a better way
@aaronsorensen5165 7 місяців тому
I’m reality, Albon would probably be the best teammate. I think he would just be gracious to be in a faster car. As long as Mercedes treated him right,but you honestly get the respect you earn and deserve.
@destronger5313 7 місяців тому
honestly, i would love to see ALB at Merc. he’d be a great person to have as he’s really good at testing plus he can really get every ounce of speed from the car.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
The Williams lineup of Russell and Albon would be so good.
@saqibiqbal1021 7 місяців тому
Lewis doesn't like when he team mate can battle him, look at Alonso and Rosberg as his team mates, the reason he liked Bottas because he was no threat to him and it's good when you have a faster car then the rest but in 2021 when red bull matched them he was useless
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
True but that dynamic was good enough for Mercedes to rule the roost for years. The team liked him.
@johncenaboy44 7 місяців тому
If George stayed at Williams and Albono comes in, Williams would score more points and be up higher in the standings for more money they can use towards the development of their car to get even higher up the grid
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
It's better for the Williams team.
@madred1842 7 місяців тому
« Annoying » is exactly the perfect word to describe Russell 😄
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
He's not making a good case for himself.
@shayzadg 7 місяців тому
YOU CALLED THE CRASH
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
I didn't expect it THIS SOON!
@MelissMarieD 7 місяців тому
Best. Intro. Ever.
@SDRaygon 7 місяців тому
No Russels idea would have worked in Japan (most likely) the reason the DRS thing didnt work was because they swapped the drivers before doing it, so the fastest car was the one ahead, instead of the slowest car being guarded by the faster car (Hamilton)
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
I don't think it would've worked as George's tyres were pretty much gone. He was on a one-stop. Had it been a two-stop, he might have fared better.
@SDRaygon 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS we will mever know ofc, but I belive it would have been hard but possible, they would have had to go 2 wide into turn 1 and 2 every lap
@SDRaygon 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS I agree a 2 stop would have been better though
@ihsanjayadi88 7 місяців тому
Hamilton's Mercedes is clearly not fast enough against the inherently faster Ferrari with its newer tyres. Even a slight tyre offset offers a noticeable advantage in high deg circuit such as Suzuka. Coupled that with the fact that Ferrari is obviously faster than Mercedes that weekend, you can see it yourself how fast the Ferrari catch up to Lewis after both have been released from Russell. Russell's idea would've resulted in both Mercedes being overtaken by the Ferrari.
@Brazzo3000 7 місяців тому
I DIDNT KNOW THAT GOKU FROM TFS ALSO LOVED F1 WHAT THE HELL, LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@martinbell8369 7 місяців тому
I think Mercedes expected to win the title in 2021( Just an observation, not trying to reignite that story again). Lewis then retires and George comes in. With the eighth title not coming it left the team with a conundrum, sign George or potentially lose him. Merc were not expecting to have two alpha drivers in the team (A bit like Mclaren in 2007). It has unbalanced the team but I'm not sure George should have to concede to Lewis as both should have to do what is best for the team. George pushing Lewis or Lewis pushing George will inevitably cause issues if you want to do what is best for the team. The situation makes team and drivers look below their best
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Definitely. Red Bull coming on strong wasn't expected.
@robertpearl1833 7 місяців тому
You're absolutely right
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
With how Mercedes have been, having Bottas around would be a very handy thing.
@vancestalworth5652 3 місяці тому
Russel is a racer period . He didn't fall for the Hamilton Hype! Plus he is British and that helps. 🏁
@Echo-cx2gk 7 місяців тому
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I miss pre-mullet Valtteri. That's when it all started going downhill.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
To be fair, the Alfa Romeo car this year is just nowhere.
@Venetii_ 7 місяців тому
*Valtteri not Valterri
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Thanks! Fixed.
@walter1824 7 місяців тому
Bottas has more consecutive Q3 (103) appearances than Red Bull
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
That record is a big deal. Bottas was great in qualifying.
@teague10plays70 7 місяців тому
I refuse to believe George is even significantly better then Bottas. He just has the ego of top teir driver and zero self awareness.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Bottas knew his limits and when to fight. George doesn't know when to quit and just play the team game. He needs to slow down and be patient.
@teague10plays70 7 місяців тому
@LawVS Bottas also understood that Lewis is an all time great and the difference between the two of them. If I were ToTo my only goal in life would be to get Lewis the 8th title that was stolen from him in 21. George either needs to know his place or gtfo.
@gold6813 7 місяців тому
George got some high place finishes where Valteri couldn't. So it evens out
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
I suppose. But 2022 could have done with some steady hands.
@4rdF1Hunny 7 місяців тому
I’m down for the inter team drama! Bring it!
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
To each their own.
@rk-wy8pu 7 місяців тому
The formula one world drivers championship is not a cake that should be served on a plate to "sir lewis". He needs to fight for it. First against his teammate.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Which is what he is doing but the team needs to control it so it doesn't get ugly for the entire unit.
@rk-wy8pu 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS control it how? By asking Russell to step aside? Sorry, no. Russell is a much much much better driver than someone like a Perez so that he cannot be simply asked to step aside since everyone knows he's not championship material. Russell has all the potential and fighting a multiple world champion right at the outset is exactly what his career needs. Remember, Hamilton became a better driver by having to fight with Alonso in his rookie year. Russell needs to do the same. Stick it to Hamilton and do not take anything lying down. Fight for every single place, every single point. He owes it to himself.
@Lewythefly 7 місяців тому
I understand this take. But don't you think George deserves better than the treatment Valteri got? What's the point of him being there if he can never challenge for position? He'd be better off signing with another team if that's your expectation for him. No one was saying this in 2022 because he had a great year last year and people could see him leading the team if Hamilton retired. (And I'm not much of a George fan)
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
I think this situation isn't ideal for all parties. In 2021, things looked clearer in terms of succession and how things would operate. Now coming into 2024, things aren't so clear for Mercedes. Times have changed.
@Lewythefly 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS that's because Lewis got greedy, desperate to get an 8th and ruined Mercedes succession planning
@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69 7 місяців тому
Every Max or Lewis needs a Bottas.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
A titan of a driver needs a solid wingman, not an upstart who's going to get in your way potentially without instruction.
@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69 7 місяців тому
Which is why I think Perez won't be fired, because he isn't a threat to Max.@@LawVS
@Jorge.Painkiller 7 місяців тому
Maybe it is cause he's not under pressure because let's be honest, Zhou is no threat for Bottas, but I feel like Bottas is driving like he doesn't care anymore. But I think Hamilton/Russell had to happen.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
I do feel like Bottas is so chill right now he's horizontal.
@aadithc4389 7 місяців тому
two top drivers are good for the sport. Whilst there's an argument for a one-two dynamic being better for the team, look at Red Bull. We need scraps like Merc and Ferrari between teammates at every team and F1 would be amazing even during periods of dominance like right now. Imo the teams should care less about the WDC (easier said than done), two closely-matched drivers don't take points off the overall WCC with their infighting. The WDC should be purely a battle between the drivers was individually.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Ferrari can make it work and have done.
@iazy47 7 місяців тому
Aston mastin should keep look eyes on gorrge Russell if next year mercedes keep him like this
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Judging from their financial records that came out the other day, they wouldn't want to pay for George. They keep Lance because he's cheap.
@arthurteo8111 5 місяців тому
Bottas is a very gentle and fair driver. He is an overall nice guy with no ruthless killer instinct . He was a very positive strategic element in the team.
@LawVS 5 місяців тому
He had a role and he undertook it well.
@mrgalaxy396 7 місяців тому
I am so glad Bottas is not driving for Mercedes anymore. He's a good bloke, but just like Perez, he can't hold a candle to his teammate. I much rather see a more on-par driver lineup, one that can actually race one another. George brings some life into that team, it's nice to see Lewis actually be challenged by a teammate for a change. He's also their future #1 when Lewis calls it quits, you have to invest into the future at some point and Bottas looks to be only getting slower and slower with age, so no point in keeping him as a #2 either.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
That's true. I'm glad Bottas is happy. That's the main thing but Mercedes might have been happier with him there for 2022.
@themanwithsauce 7 місяців тому
I think people are already revising history here with Bottas. He was a very good, usually quite consistent, pair of hands for their second car, but Ferrari had built some damn good cars for 2017, 2018, and the first half of 2019 (before the ummmm..."deal"....happened with the FIA). Then in 2020 we saw the resurgance of Red Bull at the end of the year but Bottas? He routinely showed again and again he had all the defense of wet tissue paper. So he can charge ahead just fine, but struggles at keeping other fast drivers behind, and RB was quickly showing their hand. I can't imagine Bottas being where George and Lewis are on points in these cars that don't have the edge over everyone. I don't think 'being at peace' is worth the drop in points Bottas would make them suffer. Mercedes are fine, they'll work it out, and will keep making some progress. It's certainly a problem they need to manage, but maybe we need to view this as a learning opportunity. The team basically needs to say to themselves "Look, Rosberg solved that issue for us back in the day by retiring, so maybe it's time to learn how to manage two star drivers instead of just watching them hold each other back"
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
I agreed in the video that 2021 wasn't a good year for Bottas but with 2022 the way it was, perhaps a steady lineup might've led to scrapping the zeropods sooner.
@cynthiawylie3584 7 місяців тому
The problem is George is faster and hungry.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Yep. He's wanting to prove he's ready to lead the team...which he isn't yet.
@showmeurbankai7369 7 місяців тому
if valterris opinion was rock bottom for mercedes, they should have payed him more.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Maybe but I think sometimes money isn't enough if you're not feeling yourself.
@TC.C 7 місяців тому
What is the source you heard from that Lewis was resistant to George joining? Or was that your own opinion ?
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
It's based on the regular sound bytes about Lewis voicing his approval of Valtteri and saying how great he is.
@aquila5115 7 місяців тому
Lewis and valtteri is the greatest team pairing of all time
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Seems to be the most relaxed.
@numbnut257 7 місяців тому
It comes down to management greed
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
That and George had to be promoted or else lose him to another team.
@nurwhal_8694 7 місяців тому
It’s 2007 all over again
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Kinda, but to a lesser extent.
@sourpatchpanda68 7 місяців тому
I would love to see what would happen if Merc resigned Bottas for a year
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Definitely would've made 2022 a little more calm for them.
@JACKTHEKILLERNOOOB 7 місяців тому
im actually from the same town bottas is from
@LawVS 6 місяців тому
Cool!
@JACKTHEKILLERNOOOB 6 місяців тому
Nastola, Finland
@tech9803 3 місяці тому
Closed captioning: "Nicholas The TV"
@LawVS 3 місяці тому
Yet he's no longer on ours.
@VITORB82 7 місяців тому
If Bottas would been kept GR probably would be at AMR by now.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Yeah. His team would have walked having been kept at Williams for 2022.
@quierover4locas 7 місяців тому
Generally i agree with this channel, but in this particular case the hiperbole is being abused. This type of problem in Mercedes is mute if the cars are not on par with the frontrunners.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
That's OK, we don't have to always agree. :)
@quierover4locas 7 місяців тому
thats fine, cheers my friend@@LawVS
@stableianF1oracle 7 місяців тому
Are you having a laugh. Lewis at the factory as if he’s Adrian Newey telling highly qualified and experienced aero engineers to remove 0.1114 of a mm off the wing etc. what a joke. Lewis only knows what every driver knows i.e does it oversteer or under steer. Comedy gold
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Oh well. Thanks for your time.
@sectorarte1759 5 місяців тому
You've almost done a WHAT IF Valtteri Bottas stayed in Mercedes. Definitely you have storytelling in your blood!
@LawVS 5 місяців тому
Thanks! I have a whole other channel dedicated to that and the series Dragon Ball where I cut my teeth.
@The_ZeroLine 6 місяців тому
I agree the development process would have been MUCH better with Bottas still there.
@LawVS 6 місяців тому
It would've been dealt with faster than at present...but Bottas is falling off.
@lukeearthcrawler896 7 місяців тому
Mercedes's win in Brazil last year came too late to influence the 2024 car. By that time I'm sure they committed to the sero pod design. Sure, it might have reinforce the idea, but still... it came too late. The W14 was already past the design phase. Just look at McLaren, who did switch the design philosophy last 2023. It took them 6-8mo to change course. As for Russell, dark clouds are circling him. Not only is he far behin Lewis, but Lando is ahead in the championship and will likely surpass him comfortably by the end of the season. Heck, even Oscar might better him (fingers crossed. ).
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Of course. They committed to the W14 long before that. I'm talking about George's first-half and his constant Top 5 finishes providing some hope that the concept was worth continuing with.
@lukeearthcrawler896 7 місяців тому
@@LawVS Got it! :D I still don't think George is in any way responsible for the W14. If a team sticks to a tricky concept just because a young driver can barely make it work, that's on them. My guess is they stuck with the zero pods because the W13 had other flaws that masked the zero pod limitation. That would be the horrible amount of purposing, due to ride height, suspension, etc. Mercedes claimed during the entire 2022 season that the zero pod design was not the limitation of the W13. Why not trust them on that?
@funkmasterjay 7 місяців тому
George made his own luck in Brazil in 2022 during qualifying.
@LawVS 7 місяців тому
Still won though. Results last.
@funkmasterjay 7 місяців тому
@LawVS something called ethics and integrity. Bit people these days just have short memories and no morals
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