The Waffenträgers: Germany's Gun Carriers | Cursed by Design
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День томуThe word Waffenträger may cause you to shudder remembering a tank capable of wiping out an entire flank in moments. And while the real German designs may not have reached that level of sheer absurdity, they make up some of the strangest designs of the second world war.
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@ConeOfArc 3 роки тому
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@ConeOfArc 3 роки тому
And I apologise for the editing mistake during the thank you portion I didn't see it during my editing
@lordzombey1337 3 роки тому
This Could be a TV Documetation! Great Job dude
@Steve-rq7mj 3 роки тому
This really looks like a national geographic documentary... From the intro to the time you took doing research... Epic
@krirthikdinesh7755 3 роки тому
Man have that in war thunder its damm good if u get a 5.7 or lower is soooo good over 200 mm of pin coneofark u should make a gameplay vid
@tgc_-369_ 3 роки тому
I have heard 126mm pak for artillery, anti-tank, and tank destroyer but not a 150mm pak for any vehicle or machine that had a V-auto loader six to four rounds. If the barrel of the diameter is bigger than 150 mm it is not called a pak for ground targets nor flak for sky targets it would be a like the sturmtiger or somthing else in german with a big gun on a tank design to destoyer heavy targets like bunke, navel ships, and light targets with a high explosive.
@Kypsie 3 роки тому
The Flak Bus actually exists, this is revolutionary.
@Micro-Lander 3 роки тому
Oh. No
@tsarfield5835 3 роки тому
Well yeah by name, also as we see it in game but not as seen in this video.
@ITSJustAGame-ro5ut 3 роки тому
Wait ypu didnt know that ??? Its old news mate
@andrewn327 3 роки тому
pretty sure he meant the fact that there was a literal omnibus chassis with an 88cm
@teddymenge9292 3 роки тому
Andrew N. Damn a 880mm gun that’s big, I thought a 8,8cm was big enough
@yajamanvamsikrishna509 3 роки тому
WOT and WAR THUNDER contributed soo much for reviving intrest in tanks
@mrducky179 3 роки тому
and i was one of them
@brighton2477 3 роки тому
Wot blitz as well
@mbweekes 3 роки тому
im glad there isn't too much of a "which is better" argue meant with WOT and WAR THUNDER
@brute6896 3 роки тому
@Killerbug7 0 yeah like both games have their absolutely disastrous problems but they all have healthy player bases
@brute6896 3 роки тому
@Killerbug7 0 I mean I still love the games but now a lot of games are just mindless games that don't too much thinking capacity
@weirdunknownperson2916 3 роки тому
Every veteran wot player seeing the thumbnail: *vietnam war flashbacks*
@weirdunknownperson2916 3 роки тому
Thank u for heart :))
@Drache191200 3 роки тому
Yeah, i have PTSD from that thing right now
@weirdunknownperson2916 3 роки тому
KMS Bismarck Drache191200 something aint right about ur pfp and name...
@Drache191200 3 роки тому
@@weirdunknownperson2916 what ya mean?
@weirdunknownperson2916 3 роки тому
KMS Bismarck Drache191200 idk man u kinda sus
@alexmihaigaming7129 3 роки тому
Ah yes.... WT auf E 100.... remember it like it was yesterday
@christiangabriel9258 3 роки тому
I still have PTSD from facing that thing
@KarczekWieprzowy 3 роки тому
So you played the gamemode just yesterday huh?
@alexmihaigaming7129 3 роки тому
@@KarczekWieprzowy no,did an analogy
@alexmihaigaming7129 3 роки тому
@@KarczekWieprzowy I did actually play it
@KarczekWieprzowy 3 роки тому
@@alexmihaigaming7129 I know, it was just a joke
@simonhumby323 3 роки тому
German tank and aircraft designers at the end of the war - 'keep drawing or we'll get sent to the Eastern front!"
@kurt5490 2 роки тому
No. You just get assigned to the Volksturm when the Soviets are 50 kms away. Here's your panzerfaust. Now go kill a tank.
@peppermill7163 2 роки тому
@@kurt5490 Yah, the eastern front comes to you
@Zorro9129 2 роки тому
I really got to wonder how much of their job was because they were given demands to draw something up or because they just liked drawing up cool tanks.
@pacificostudios 2 роки тому
Having been an engineer, I've wondered how much of this drawing was just intended to persuade the Nazis not to send engineers and technicians into combat. By 1944, they were some of the highest-aptitude personnel left.
@jamesricker3997 2 роки тому
Albert Speer wasn't stupid he definitely knew what was going on
@drsolo7 3 роки тому
"remembering a tank capable of wiping out an entire flank" Ah yes the Waffenträger ausf e100 or the "WTF e100"
@m10tankdestroyer94 2 роки тому
*PTSD intensifies*
@eugenvonbismarck5029 2 роки тому
Called WTF-E-100 not for nothing, it is cursed to be wtf
@britishneko3906 2 роки тому
ah yes **dies from trauma**
@AgentTasmania 2 роки тому
The Waffledragon
@nicazer 3 роки тому
"Waffentager" old school wot player... i haven't heard that name in years, still sends shivers down my spine to this day. so many tier 10 heavies... gone...
@janmakajanmaka 2 роки тому
xbox 360 and ps3 still have to relive it
@wotb4h413 Рік тому
@@janmakajanmaka actually it's just console wot that still has it
@AgentTasmania Рік тому
There's still several waffentragers
@chloeholmes4641 Рік тому
I still remember the pz1c that killed the Waffentrager E100 before I went and started to play war thunder. Oh how the times have gone by so fast
@thinklap6367 3 роки тому
gaijin what german players want: Balance what german players get: Get killed by cold war tanks
@BigPapaKaiser 3 роки тому
German players: *G.91 goes PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!*
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 роки тому
@@BigPapaKaiser ironic, turns out italy helped out germany alot
@Predator20357 3 роки тому
Yah I’m not feeling sympathy as my US tanks can’t penetrate your damn Tiger 2s and such making my Pershing’s and Jackson’s almost pathetically worst.
@friendlycomradeivan5393 3 роки тому
I just want a fucking playable Toaster that doesn't get hull broken by getting hit in the stupid canon breech
@vemonousbytes 3 роки тому
@@friendlycomradeivan5393 toaster?
@g1g3l 3 роки тому
4:20 That flak bus managed to take out 18 targets by the looks of those stripes
@GubernareMens 3 роки тому
*Insert "Vorsprung durch Technik" slogan*
@EstParum 2 роки тому
@@GubernareMens .... xD
@annoyingbstard9407 2 роки тому
Actually it managed to travel 18km without breaking down.
@Lorohn 3 роки тому
2:34 For the record, "Leichter Einheitswaffenträger" in this context would be better translated as "Light *Standardized* Weapons Carrier", as the "Einheits" in the name comes from the word "einheitlich", which means "standardized" or "uniformly".
@ConeOfArc 3 роки тому
I saw it written as both but went off the translation in my source book
@Lorohn 3 роки тому
@@ConeOfArc I understand, the translator probably mistook it for the word "Einheit", which means one unit of something.
@dougalachi 3 роки тому
@@ConeOfArc fellow German speaker chiming in. Your book is badly translated. McScumbag is right.
@markschoning5581 3 роки тому
Sir Douche McScumbag „Waffenträgers“ ist auch schrecklich! Deutsche Sprache schwere Sprache.
@99smite 3 роки тому
I was about to write the exact same...
@red42069 3 роки тому
hope this video series have dozens upon dozens of episodes
@Kay_213_ 3 роки тому
ye^
@spatha2584 3 роки тому
Nice
@Kay_213_ 3 роки тому
Nice
@Commander_Koyke 3 роки тому
WoT player having PTSD And yea the skorpion G is an HE magnet
@pencilgaming1233 3 роки тому
HE the skorpion or the skorpion will HE you
@classyrassy1790 3 роки тому
Nothing makes a KV-2 player happier then seeing a full health Skorpion G in their sights.
@ottovonbasedmark 3 роки тому
@@classyrassy1790 basically everything that is not a superheavy in the KV2s sights makes them happy
@cdills3454 2 роки тому
Germany: Please stop we re running out of resources Rheinmetall: hehe tonk distroyer go pew
@PorWik 3 роки тому
6:50 look at that climb. In war thunder you’d probably be sliding down that slope like it’s ice
@dustyak79 3 роки тому
I commented too before I seen yours . Glad someone else is still annoyed by that even months afterwards. It’s like all your playing un spaded and no crew skill all over again. I’ve been killed way more times by being stuck or sliding off than I ever did by any player in a map exploited spot.
@LTPottenger 3 роки тому
And yet WOT still has less anti-german bias than hollywood and the media lol
@concept5631 3 роки тому
@@LTPottenger True
@arushreddi5419 3 роки тому
@@LTPottenger meanwhile in WoT blitz: Panzer 4G bounces a 122mm shell
@cerealmilk1803 2 роки тому
@@arushreddi5419 superior German steel
@aetsmbotas8820 3 роки тому
Okay why does the intro say “failed projects” while showing the bob stemple tank?
@dapperfield595 3 роки тому
Zombieroo kiwi propaganda
@Chevroletmontecarlo 3 роки тому
Bob didnt fail, he was just created to intimidate
@MAG_1204 3 роки тому
@@Chevroletmontecarlo Bob succesfully intimidate the Japanese
@irishbattletoster9265 3 роки тому
@@Chevroletmontecarlo I think the only reason the Japanese dident invade was because the Bob semble was there And don't call my cousin a failure. Only I can do that
@mohamedbaradji7504 3 роки тому
If New Zealand would've sent troops to fight the Japanese with the bob sample tank it wouldn't have stood a chance, even against the ho chi tanks. Failed tanks usually become failures because actual combat shows their weaknesses and drawbacks
@lowryder3209 3 роки тому
We need that one thats based on a bus in war thunder(yes I know that we have the flak 88 but It would be cool to have this one as an event vehicle)
@piscessoedroen 3 роки тому
An actual flakbus to replace the "flakbus"
@PorWik 3 роки тому
You have the Italian meatball express that looks similar
@lowryder3209 3 роки тому
@@PorWik I love the breda 501
@FirstMetalHamster 3 роки тому
It's like the FlakBus, but longer and more unwieldy. But it sounds like so much fun.
@goodboi6540 2 роки тому
The flak 8.8 metres
@KarczekWieprzowy 3 роки тому
Little thing to add, the Cricket Panther version is in WoT aswell, it's named G.W. Panther
@petermikus2363 3 роки тому
Yep
@nightbird7208 3 роки тому
And arty is still cancer
@Techn1kal 3 роки тому
@@nightbird7208 >arty mentioned
@kellerweskier7214 2 роки тому
@@nightbird7208 WoT Artillery > WT ATGMs, Helis, any kind of aircraft, 1-taps, servers, MGs kill heavies, and Artillery.
@serenisma3402 2 роки тому
@@kellerweskier7214 I hate artillery all my homies hate artillery
@LongNgo-eg4ft 3 роки тому
Ah yes the "i can clip any tank with my lazer canon" a.k.a WTF *E*-100
@nightbird7208 3 роки тому
It was like an FV4005, but more dangerous. That minute-long mag reload felt like the scariest minute of My life tho.
@User-ed5tg 3 роки тому
Im a german and hearing you say waffenträger somewhat correctly makes me so proud
@thurin84 Рік тому
somewhat correctly? ssssiiiiggghhhh. oh how the fatherland has settled.
@jackeyboy6538 4 місяці тому
Waffle tauger
@coolpilot7819 3 роки тому
A Japanese super heavy video would be awesome I just thought cuss it in the intro
@ginch8300 2 роки тому
A fucking tonka truck would be considered super heavy by Japanese standards...
@Gymrat1509 3 роки тому
That intro… You make interesting history even more interesting with a horror effect at the same time
@chrisi2348 3 роки тому
I love non-germans trying to pronounce german tank names. They often do a really good job but it sound so funny.
@aniqkong6083 3 роки тому
We all be simping for the German
@m1a1abrams3 3 роки тому
for the Panther Belle Delphine*
@aniqkong6083 3 роки тому
For the hella *Thicc* Maus
@tmfritz2112 3 роки тому
Im not only simping i AM German
@hypedpanther6464 3 роки тому
I find the luchs hot
@hypedpanther6464 3 роки тому
I find the luchs hot
@tacomas9602 3 роки тому
Footage of a Panther and M4 in a muddy field is amazing.
@VoidlessOfSpace 3 роки тому
y'know, italy in war thunder has a spg looks extremely alike the waffentrager auf e 100, like a younger brother, i dont remember the name but you will see it
@devinapalembangsiimutpalem7548 3 роки тому
The 90 mm something
@VoidlessOfSpace 3 роки тому
no i found its 90/53 m41m. i said younger brother. centauro is in modern age
@devinapalembangsiimutpalem7548 3 роки тому
Marinda space i feel ashamed beacuase i used to main italy
@VoidlessOfSpace 3 роки тому
@@devinapalembangsiimutpalem7548 italy high br is OK. it has high pen but barely any armor at all
@luomodiroiano6829 3 роки тому
As an italian wt Player, i can say that the 90/53 is (for me) the best tank in the game: it s good at any br, great penetration and explosive mass, incredibly good and unexpected survivability, pretty small and sneeky Breeky. The only problem is * artillery*
@jamesmerutka889 3 роки тому
You sir, are what the History Channel SHOULD be. I'm having my kids watch this, as well as other channels like yours. Thank you for the amazing content. I wish you many years of success.
@sirspu 3 роки тому
I'm really liking this series! Keep up the excellent work!!
@racingraptor4758 3 роки тому
This is my favourite series! Keep it up:) first time i heard about waffentragers was long time ago when my friend told me about WT E100 from wot and how powerfull it is.
@steveweidig5373 2 роки тому
A little note for the video: You translated "leichter/mittlerer Einheitswaffenträger" as "light/medium unit weapon carrier", but it can also mean "light/medium unified weapon carrier". Which probably was also the actual meaning as Germany at the time tried to simplify it's productions.
@tankdestroyerno.2684 3 роки тому
I'm new to the channel, of course I subscribed because of your "cursed by design" videos but please, continue making more cursed by design tanks thank you
@InevitableD34th 3 роки тому
My tonk sweatshirt should be here either this weekend or next week! I'm so excited!
@wunderwaffe6752 3 роки тому
RheinMetal still make weapons system
@DeosPraetorian 3 роки тому
The Abrams' gun system is made by them
@Horseshoecrabwarrior 3 роки тому
@@DeosPraetorian That's sort of a myth. It was designed by them, but made in the U.S.
@ConeOfArc 3 роки тому
It's called license production the country or company pays for the ability to natively produce the weapon. So it's not a myth
@Horseshoecrabwarrior 3 роки тому
Well, I've encountered people who have heard "the Abrams has a German gun" and thought, understandably, that the gun was manufactured in Germany and shipped over to the States. Because of that misconception, I think it's a distinction worth making.
@frankpolly 3 роки тому
and one of their subcontractors/sub-owned companies is MAN who produced the first Panthers and is still making military equipment as well.
@nudelmann8825 3 роки тому
The vomag one was built in my hometown, i think i saw it in a book we have laying around.
@alphasevenplays7046 3 роки тому
I love this series, keep it goin dude!
@jochumm6099 3 роки тому
Damn, very nice spoken and presented! Pls never stop my g
@PedroCosta-po5nu 3 роки тому
next tank sugestion: EE t1(or t2) Osório
@76456 3 роки тому
Osorio isn't cursed
@Pilintra 3 роки тому
Oh. A brazilian.
@PedroCosta-po5nu 3 роки тому
@@Pilintra salve
@cenouraroxa9184 3 роки тому
FAAALA BRASILEEEEEEIRO
@NietzscheanMan 3 роки тому
I approve of your avatar.
@straswa Рік тому
Great vid, I was wondering about the history of the Steyr WT. Thanks for answering my curiosity.
@OuterHeaven210 3 роки тому
I’m about to leave for work. Been watching your cursed design vids since early this morning. It’s gonna be a good day
@juancortapan7845 3 роки тому
It was so op that even wargaming had to remove it XD
@AgentTasmania Рік тому
So fictional*
@M3au 3 роки тому
This is as good as a Mark Felton video. Keep up the great work.
@lolaminnit 2 роки тому
I like Mark's vids but i really can't stand his audio. It's sounds so monotone and boring. At least Cone pus some effort into his speech
@danielburkett821 3 роки тому
Have you ever done a documentary about the Marder series of self propelled guns or the Wespe? I would love to see videos of those vehicles.
@beast0339 3 роки тому
"The word Waffenträger may cause you to shudder remembering a tank capable of wiping out an entire flank in moments." ah yes, the "waffle-maker" E-100, I remember giggling like a schoolboy when I messed about with it in the supertests :p
@chrthiel 3 роки тому
I'm convinced most of these projects only existed to keep the designers from getting drafted into the army
@zhufortheimpaler4041 3 роки тому
considering how much the NS weapons developement, production orders etc depended on party internal friendships, smearing honey around the mouth of speer, hitler, göring and co. it was just a mess of nepotism/favourism, privilege and incompetence. thats why so many strange projects made it into production.
@LTPottenger 3 роки тому
There's nothing wrong with these designs and that is basically what was made later on. I wonder how much bribe money was involved in getting the sherman into the war. Endless officers in the US military go into defense industries making puzzlingly high amounts of money no corruption there at all lol
@zhufortheimpaler4041 3 роки тому
@@LTPottenger well the road to m4 medium was a short and rocky one. the us isolationism and separation from the military technological advancements spawned several strange children like the m2 medium tank, the m3 (lee/grant) medium tank. they were strange at best and awefully designet. the m4 was the logical progression and developed in a hurry from the inadequate and awkward m3 to have a proper medium tank for the moment, when the land forces would clash with the germans and japanese. the m4 had a long list of teething problems, but matured quickly (under combat experience pressure) into a very fine tank. there are other more strange adhoc projects in the us army at that time
@billwilson3609 3 роки тому
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 The US Army didn't bother with designing tanks between the wars since it was cheaper to purchase tanks made by other countries for testing and teardowns to analyze their systems. Ike and Patton did that together at the Army's first armor training base where they tore tanks completely apart (including the engines and transmissions) to examine each part and determine the difficulty of repairs during re-assembly while smoking cigarettes and drinking beer. Both were advocates for J. Walter Christie who produced produced innovative prototypes for the US Army. Once the US Army Arsenal and Ordnance started designing tanks they came up with designs that were superior to what others were using in 1941 and for the rest of the war.
@zhufortheimpaler4041 3 роки тому
@@billwilson3609 no, not superior, often far from that. but easy to maintain, mass produce and for a war on the other side of the planet, so high interchangability of spare parts and easy logistics.
@rickharrison1887 2 роки тому
0:55 low key, I wanna see a video of your books, I bet you have a super impressive collection
@lesly9101 3 роки тому
Great selection of music! Matches perfectly with the visual Drama of the pictures! To whose is that Music used in the video?
@p00dle82 3 роки тому
Boss ! I need that one .i mean that one.
@themechanic4592 3 роки тому
I like how you were talking about failed tanks and the bob semple appeared because that thing was an absolute success
@akiraalder 3 роки тому
I subbed as soon as I heard that intro 10/10!
@SomeOrdinaryJanitor 8 місяців тому
i think the Ardelt-Krupp design was the best possible design, as it is essentially a self propelled flatbed with a standard 88 on a field mount. i think the Pz.IV Waffentrager could be a both cost and combat effective use for the remaining Pz.IV hulls after it was discontinued.
@limachello_4545 3 роки тому
I think it would be cool if militaries (or a group of enthusiasts) actually made the tanks from some of the 20th century blueprints just so we could see the actual size and terror that these beasts could have brought to the battle field
@samuelyoung2671 3 роки тому
Gonna have to find couple hundred million in disposable income... be right back
@tamlandipper29 3 роки тому
Not to be a downer, but you could spend those millions making a few thousand orphan kids terrifyingly happy.
@granttambeling2169 3 роки тому
Im having ptsd from WoT thanks Cone...
@Jonathan-fz4yu 3 роки тому
Great Video! I love this series
@kecsek3496 3 роки тому
7:00 That turret looks like the casemate of the SU-152 with a longer ML-20 howitzer. :D
@funnyacres5078 3 роки тому
I can’t wait for this to get to things like the KV6, T28, and other super heavies
@purplenurp5590 3 роки тому
Jesus imagine going against a panther with a m3 lee
@TCTheDS 3 роки тому
I feel bad for the panther crew they are screwed
@philvanderlaan5942 3 роки тому
Fighting a panther in a grant/lee would be like dogfighting an A6M in a heavily armed Stepladder
@pencilgaming1233 3 роки тому
Mate I love the series keep it up!!!!!!!!
@theflyinghetzer4335 2 роки тому
Great video, love the in depth info of each vehicle. What music did you use from1:10- 3:27
@flare9757 3 роки тому
I am curious. Do you think Ratte was an actual design? Or was it some joke that 2 engineers drew up while drunk, and pretended it was a real design after the war?
@piscessoedroen 3 роки тому
Well it got the funny moustache man excited. I guess it's very real
@thekingtiger8193 3 роки тому
well, this one's (theopenboats.wordpress.com/2015/08/24/lesprit-de-maginot-1927/) designer wasn't even drunk, prob high on drug
@hauptmannerich 3 роки тому
I though WT E-100 mean WaifuTräger E-100
@the_victorious_1 3 роки тому
Or the Waffle Tractor E-100
@jonasrauchfu6935 3 роки тому
When you explained the muzzle break ,, skorpion'' i already knew what you wanted to say without ever watched that video 😂 but when you named my all loved Waffenträger auf E100 i got tears in my eyes keep doing those great videos i like those information you give us stay healthy and especially stay home @ all 😁🙄
@af8312 3 роки тому
reminds me of some of the late war japanese tank projects, especially the 75mm Type 4 AA (which eventually became a semi-autoloaded AT with the designation type 5 75mm). The type 5 guns would've found their way into late war japanese tanks such as the chi-to & chi-ri had it's prototype been completed. I would like to see an overview of it at some point, as while the stationary AT gun would've featured an autoloaded, it's unknown whether it would've made it into the chi-ri, and it didn't make it into the chi-to for sure. Those late war tanks had the ability to become some of the only well designed japanese tanks.
@jasonz7788 2 роки тому
Great work Sir thank you
@sturmi9783 Рік тому
I got to see the Grasshopper as well as many other artillery pieces when I went through AIT last year, Got to see the 203mm Russian Mortar carriage up close too, the last M12 and Semovente 90mm
@02suraditpengsaeng41 3 роки тому
German Gun Carrier tank Normal : Just Blueprint or War machine. WoT & WT player and special guy : A Bus with Mega size Gun.
@Ato-3000J 3 роки тому
Suraditfcf Pengsaeng yes. Shooting PTSD to everyone it encounters
@ronpetticrew2936 3 роки тому
The best reference book for this subject is Special Panzer Variants by Walter J Spielberg's and Hilary L Doyle.
@bernardfrederic6535 3 роки тому
Just as a sid note : The British used a similar contraption in WW I, with great success. A Mark IV tank, with an open platform between the running gears, that carried a howitzer and or ammunition, thru areas under fire. It was also possible and practiced, to fire the gun from the vehicle. Might be the Krauts picked something up there.
@ChenAnPin 3 роки тому
09:46 Ah, the What-The-Fuck E-100 truly the pinnacle of (game) design and balance
@ish2008 10 місяців тому
lol
@nynx808 Рік тому
4:22 Notice the gun. There is little lines on it and those are kill marks. There is 18 lines which means 18 kills. That’s a lot considering this thing has no armor and can literally be taken out with a pistol.
@Neithan02 2 роки тому
Leichter Einheitswaffenträger has 2 meanings as Einheit can mean either "unit" or "unity" and the unity sense meaning one of "standard fit" basccally a base upon which you can mount different pieces of equipment, which all have a standardised way of connecting to the mount.
@evanmorandini9450 2 роки тому
Console version of WoT still has the WT auf E100 and it causes so much anxiety when you see it on the enemy team list
@BOB-wx3fq 3 роки тому
They played around with a couple designs, some with tracks some with wheels some longer some armoured etc I think they just wanted to put an 8.8 flak on anything possible, such a versatile weapon, anti tank anti aircraft anti personnel can be used for seige warfare, very amazing gun they made
@danielm.595 2 роки тому
I think that with enough time they would find a way to make a magazine fed 8.8
@MegaJani 3 роки тому
I was waiting for the mentioning of the RHM-Borsig with the lengthened Pz38 suspension (the one in WoT), but oh well
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 роки тому
he did mention it but only very briefly (3:29), he just didn't link it to the RHM-Borsig in game. but these medium ones are the ones that were to get 5-6 road wheels, and that is the version in wot
@MegaJani 3 роки тому
Yes, I got that. I'd have mentioned it tho, because it's at least as known as the WT E-100...
@chimerathrawn5875 3 роки тому
@2:30 Actually that seems to me rather to mean "light standard gun carrier" with "Einheits-[...]" referring to standardization (Vereinheitlichung) rather than to "unit" (Einheit)
@comatose3788 2 роки тому
I've been playing this tank in World of Tanks for 9 years. It's by far my favorite tank. You have to be very careful as it has no armor. But, the gun is a true sniper. 300 yard shots are nothing for it. I never knew it was a paper tank till now.
@marlenkruger5104 Рік тому
Thank you for this informativ and grate video.
@saschawagner5167 3 роки тому
Given that that the german 75mm killed everything the allies fielded in significant numbers the only point of a wafenträger would deploy a number of field fortifications in a somewhat hot zone, the only advantage of a wafenträger vs a towed ATG that it can use the gun while heading for the deployment zone so its no wonder that none were produced in number. and given the base vehicles used for the most parts probably the Stug III could do most of its role much more cost efective (wich showed in its service record)
@zachzhang4167 3 роки тому
HAHAHA, first sentence referenced the WT auf E-100 fur 12,8. That beast was OP
@milanondrak5564 3 роки тому
I can't figure out why it was considered that stationary artillery delivered by tracked vehicles is a better tactical asset than mobile artillery mounted permanently on a tracked base.
@joavisr5011 2 роки тому
they were not dismounted fron the hull
@KarlKarpfen 6 місяців тому
"Leichter Einheitswaffenträger" could be theoretically translated in two ways, the way you did and the way Einheits-something is used in German: It's the "light universal weapon carrier".
@jar407 2 місяці тому
some crazy ideas, some good but if the ruling lunatic didn't like ever the best weapon it didn't get used unless the generals risked his rath. one part of the defeat
@kiowhatta1 3 роки тому
What is extraordinary is that the Panzer truppen already had the basis for successful heavy self-propelled guns of the heavier calibre in the Dicker Max and the Sturer Emil. Had the Sturer Emil been redesigned with an armoured casemate around the gun it would have still been light enough to be mobile. The jagdpanther was a perfect TD mounting the 88 Pak 43 L71, with the Panther and Pz Iv carrying the highly effective 75mm Pak 40. The entire tiger serious was superfluous and a waste of resources. Had the Germans standardised their tank force down to just two-three chassis and wheel configurations, then production would have soared, and maintenance far easier. The Russians Basically used the T-34 and KV designs for all their later medium and heavy tank and assault gun designs, making it far easier to find spare parts. The problem for the German designers was they just didn't know when to stop experimenting to find the perfect design and kept building bigger and heavier vehicles with ridiculous armour protection. So many were lost to break downs and minor damage that it was a travesty to see a fresh King tiger with a broken track simply abandoned because of a track problem.
@bhimasolberg4767 3 роки тому
Wasn't the Hummel another variant (like the Nashorn), and they were based on the Panzer 4 Hull? Sorry, as I don't mean to nit-pic but some folks may get confused. Great Video too BTW!
@RedXlV 3 роки тому
There were also what amount to Soviet Waffenträgers, the postwar SU-100P (Object 105), SU-152G (Object 108), and SU-152P (Object 116). (And the Wargaming-invented derivative of them in World of Tanks, the SU-130PM.) They were directly inspired by study of the Waffenträger prototypes, and likewise never made it past the prototype stage. All 3 designs have 1 surviving prototype at Kubinka.
@ballisticfuryau308 3 роки тому
8:00 arrr yes the good old Skorpion G that one tank that always somehow manages to blind shot me in Bushes
@honzapivovar591 3 роки тому
2:59 i know im not some tank pro, but there i didnt saw borsig version where are 2 hetzer smashed up together (the wot borsig)
@Hornet_Legion 3 місяці тому
I always like the railroad car that has twin 128mm autoloader cannons. I've seen photos but don't know the location where it is. I wouldnt doubt at all that some German engineer wasn't trying to envisage a tracked vehicle that could mount a single or twin Barrell 128mm autoloader. The railcar example was on a rotating platform like a turret
@saintmichaelsarchangel2644 2 роки тому
I might get to see the first tank at Sill, I’m going there for BCT AIT in June
@nimomemre9567 2 роки тому
So much ww2 innovation ideas comes into my mind but this is always the answer (that you also said in the end) We can't do much bcz history is already written. So TRUE
@everydayhero5076 3 роки тому
Great video! You have a new subscriber.
@dangerjoe8911 3 роки тому
That one grainy picture of the "mittlerer Waffenträger": Is that the historical basis for the garden shed turret of the "Waffenträger auf E-100"?
@Legiondude 2 роки тому
The autoloading mechanism was actually built as a fortification cannon IIRC WG basically just drew a sheet of metal around it and called it a day
@ESUIS7sg 3 місяці тому
The e100 wafer actually exists in some form.its the flakziling 40/2 basically 2 128 mounts on a piece of metal with wheels
@piersp38 3 роки тому
Prototypes like this were common in the Axis factories , check It out the Ansaldo 9 0 mounted on the chassis of the tank M15 .
@_-.-_-_.._--.-_-_----_-.--_._- 3 роки тому
+ConeOfArc Hey man, do look into Škoda's waffentragers too. None left the drawing board, but they are interesting nonetheless.
@paraklash8912 3 роки тому
8:47 We need the Krupp WT SFH-18 in the game like as a tier 9 reward similar to what’s happening to the current British Cobra. With a 15cm gun firing SABOT rounds would be very scary and unique yet powerful or even have it as a tier 10 reward for campaign 🤷🏻♂️ but either way I Truly think something like that would be awesome to see in game sense WG already adds vehicles which never left blueprints and or wooden mock-ups any way. They could explore the idea of adding something in the realm of the unknown...again...
@Rubashow 3 роки тому
Strictly speaking, Panzerjäger I, Marder II, Marder III and Bison would be the first Waffenträger. They are the same concept, except in name. Still your video is really great and I enjoyed the research you presented. Keep it up.
@ROBERTN-ut2il Місяць тому
Note that all German "15 cm" weapons - Imperial. , Weimar or Nazi era - had an actual caliber of 14.94 cm (often rendered as "149 mm").
@robertstarke8610 Рік тому
I was stationed at Sill and saw the grasshopper if yall are ever in oklahoma for whatever reason get a pass go on post and check out the field artillery museum it has a lot of cool different tanks, gun carriers, and artillery pieces.
@Legiondude 3 роки тому
Allegedly Yuri Pasholok's crew found some prints for other Waffentraeger designs based on the Panzer IV and Panzer III/IV(E) projects A shame we'll probably never see them in full(He's shared pieces of the blueprints on his livejournal)
@guppiapfeljustleopardthing8756 Рік тому
Hey, could you make a video about the howitzer on the king tiger chassis where it was supposed to mount a long barreled 17 cm gun on a elongated tiger 2 hull (the hull of 1 was half completed)
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