There was never a god in the ancient world named Molech

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Dan McClellan

Dan McClellan

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@QuinnPrice
@QuinnPrice 13 днів тому
I was in a church that taught about Molech and identified people who continue to worship this god today. (Read: Their political enemies.) What's weird is these same churches, because of their weak accountability, were hotbeds for child abuse.
@velocibadgery
@velocibadgery 13 днів тому
Yeah, it is generally deployed by people who want to assign a spirit to those who support abortion. Which is of course an ad hominem attack.
@creamwobbly
@creamwobbly 13 днів тому
Wait, a church that engages in political campaigning? Have you reported them for tax fraud?
@larrywest42
@larrywest42 13 днів тому
It may seem weird, but projection is a very common defense mechanism for authoritarian groups, and for cults.
@chameleonx9253
@chameleonx9253 12 днів тому
​​​​@@creamwobblyHahahaha! What a funny joke! 😂 😢😔
@AnonymousPsych
@AnonymousPsych 13 днів тому
Discovered the other day that the local garbage disposal company is named Molek. That's a tad dark, innit?
@OrdoMallius
@OrdoMallius 13 днів тому
Is the dump called Gehenna by any chance?
@AnonymousPsych
@AnonymousPsych 13 днів тому
@@OrdoMallius Well climate wise, I imagine you'd prefer that to the rest of Sweden, eh René?
@lysanamcmillan7972
@lysanamcmillan7972 13 днів тому
You assume it's the same language.
@chameleonx9253
@chameleonx9253 12 днів тому
Depends, is the company next to a high school?
@angelonzuji2457
@angelonzuji2457 13 днів тому
There is an interesting and plausible hypothesis in the fact that Molech is a fruit of what we call a "Tiqqun soferim." it is a scribal alteration of words associated with a theology that is disturbing. Like Merib-baal became Mephibosheth. "Bosheth" meaning "Shame." There is a lot more. And MoLEK is a deformation of MeLEK which is YWHW himself as the king. So Molek = מֹלֶך Melek = מְלַךְ⁠ It’s a work of Massoretes vocalisations.
@crow-dont-know
@crow-dont-know 13 днів тому
“Particularly for Jason Newsted” Amen to that brother. Lars is a criminal for what he did to that album.
@digitaljanus
@digitaljanus 13 днів тому
#JusticeForJason
@lde-m8688
@lde-m8688 13 днів тому
It was their last decent album, though. After Metallica went to therapy, it was all over. 😂
@crow-dont-know
@crow-dont-know 13 днів тому
@@lde-m8688 Fantastic album, but ruined by the insane choice of turning Jason so low in the mix that it sounds like it’s recorded in a tin can
@hyperhyme1911
@hyperhyme1911 13 днів тому
I really commend Dan for his words. Because, AJFA is my favorite album of all time.
@lde-m8688
@lde-m8688 13 днів тому
@crow-dont-know I won't deny that, but still remain their last good album. I went to see them on this tour in 1989. Just showed my age their. It was a great concert. The Cult opened for them. I still remember when Cliff passed on. It was 1987 or 88...I was a sophomore in high school.
@NielMalan
@NielMalan 12 днів тому
I don't know why there's any doubt about the custom of child sacrifice in ancient Israel. When Abraham was commanded to sacrifice his son Isaac, he did not need instructions on how to do it.
@davidreinker5600
@davidreinker5600 12 днів тому
Who is doubting that there was child sacrifice in the ancient world?
@jasonsmall5602
@jasonsmall5602 5 днів тому
According to midrash, Isaac was an adult at the time.
@thalasyus
@thalasyus 13 днів тому
These kind of videos are what I call response baits. Can't wait for Dr. McClellan's replies of the replies! And justice for Jason Newsted.
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 13 днів тому
The word was reinterpreted as the name of a deity. And then as the name of a Daedric prince.
@chameleonx9253
@chameleonx9253 12 днів тому
All hail Malacath! Orc-father! Prince of Pariahs, patron of the spurned, god of the sacred oath and bloody curse!
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 12 днів тому
@@chameleonx9253 Oh wait... _two_ Daedric Princes. I was thinking of Molag Bal, lol.
@chameleonx9253
@chameleonx9253 12 днів тому
@@tarvoc746 Oh. Yeah, the goblins worship a god that is literally called "Moloch," which is an aspect of Malacath.
@MrDalisclock
@MrDalisclock 13 днів тому
Dan poking the hornet's nest today
@jamiegallier2106
@jamiegallier2106 12 днів тому
Well said. Past time to get the truth out about Molech and child sacrifice.
@nickolasshott7564
@nickolasshott7564 13 днів тому
Hey Dan, love your content! I would be very interested in a video discussing what the biblically supported concept of Heaven is. Is it the stereotypical hanging out in clouds? Something like the Good Place where it mirrors Earth except life is perfect? A completely incomprehensible experience? etc.
@TheBenAbney
@TheBenAbney 13 днів тому
Rad t-shirt. I’m always down for the first 4 and 1/2 Metallica records and biblical scholarship.
@sadib100
@sadib100 13 днів тому
Abraham was eager to sacrifice Isaac, who was referred as his only son. Maybe that chapter was written before Ishmael was invented.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 13 днів тому
Eager or willing?
@sadib100
@sadib100 13 днів тому
@@MarcosElMalo2 Perhaps both.
@tbishop4961
@tbishop4961 13 днів тому
​@@MarcosElMalo2eager. The command is only to offer him up and not "sacrifice"
@thepalegalilean
@thepalegalilean 13 днів тому
​@@tbishop4961 One is the other. Offering is simply the act of sacrifice.
@tbishop4961
@tbishop4961 13 днів тому
@@thepalegalilean tell me you don't read hebrew without telling me you don't read hebrew
@AnonEtal-123
@AnonEtal-123 13 днів тому
@maklelan, any whisperings among scholars re: the recent advent of "Kircherisms," found in the Book of Mormon (not your area of expertise, but I speak for many who would like to know your thoughts on this recent development/theory on the genesis of a set of scripture you are familiar with).
@sotl97
@sotl97 11 днів тому
Did you mean Kirchnerism? I have no idea what you are referring to.
@ronaldflint681
@ronaldflint681 13 днів тому
Think this is going to make the Q anons actually think? 🤣
@hardwork8395
@hardwork8395 13 днів тому
Their problem isn’t lack of thinking…it’s an over-active imagination and hyper-parallelomania.
@ronaldflint681
@ronaldflint681 13 днів тому
@@hardwork8395 Thank you! I didn't know there was a word for that.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 13 днів тому
@@hardwork8395The first rule of Dunning-Krueger Club is you don’t know you’re in Dunning-Krueger Club. I’m not sure if this really applies, but I saw it yesterday and I’m trying it out. And for the record, I’m probably in the club because I don’t know I’m in the club.
@creamwobbly
@creamwobbly 13 днів тому
Molechtica Damn my brain for doing that
@lysanamcmillan7972
@lysanamcmillan7972 13 днів тому
Levantine folk metal. I'm down. :D
@sbaker8971
@sbaker8971 13 днів тому
Never heard of anyone believing Molech was a "God" it's always been referred to as the type of sacrifice. Baal was always the "God"
@velocibadgery
@velocibadgery 13 днів тому
It is very common among the more fundamentalist sects.
@dmt000
@dmt000 13 днів тому
What about Jer 7:31? They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire-something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 13 днів тому
Reminds me of modern Christians who insist that Christianity was always against slavery.
@lavieestlenfer
@lavieestlenfer 13 днів тому
Jeremiah is just some other author writing some other book selling revisionist history. It doesn't change what was originally written.
@markgallemore8856
@markgallemore8856 13 днів тому
If they were not doing child sacrifice there would not be any reason to write this up date. But look at all the other things people believe and they don’t care that there isn’t any evidence to support it. “A collection of hand copied extremely old literature” rewritten more than once. Or God wanted it written a certain way. If you go down that road you now have to do what no one has ever accomplished ? You figure it out and claims and assertions won’t be sufficient. Just letting you know in advance that there will be a test.
@stupendemysgeographicus5009
@stupendemysgeographicus5009 13 днів тому
From what I understand, this is actually evidence for the practice being present. After all, the above passage doesn’t mention what deity they are being sacrificed to, so it could be assumed that they are being sacrificed to YHWH, but that the author doesn’t approve and doesn’t believe he would command such a thing.
@user-pm3mw8xw8d
@user-pm3mw8xw8d 12 днів тому
"...something I did not command..." and something he was going to punish 🤔
@sotl97
@sotl97 11 днів тому
Hey Dan. I remember reading literature a number of years ago that implied that the early child sacrifices were the foundation of the concept of Hell. Is there any legitimacy to this?
@christianchaidez
@christianchaidez 13 днів тому
Can you explain what Acts 7:43 is all about?
@welcometonebalia
@welcometonebalia 13 днів тому
Thank you.
@hypatiastanhope4716
@hypatiastanhope4716 11 днів тому
Particularly for their bass player 😆☕
@the.thinking.failure
@the.thinking.failure 13 днів тому
Did you mean Exodus 22:29?
@velocibadgery
@velocibadgery 13 днів тому
Yeah, I think he just misremembered the number.
@tbishop4961
@tbishop4961 13 днів тому
At least in leviticus, I can see why this could refer to both a king and a particular offering/ritual. In my imagination it looks something like the scene from the temple in The Beastmaster
@joshridinger3407
@joshridinger3407 13 днів тому
after he said "...and justice for all, but wspecially jason newstead" i thought he was going to say a growing number of scholars are coming to think he was unfairly underrated and screwed over by the rest of the band
@JohnSmith-tv4kc
@JohnSmith-tv4kc 13 днів тому
Well, there you have it. Yahweh, formerly Baal, demanded child sacrifice. I think that puts a nice big bow on the mythology of the Abrahamic god. Time to turn out the lights on the Bible as a moral compass for humanity. Ironic that Isaac and Jesus both fall under the concept of child sacrifice.
@SamanthaPyper-sl4ye
@SamanthaPyper-sl4ye 13 днів тому
*Baal-Hamon, receiver of child sacrifices* Like most ancient cultures, the Canaanites (later called Phoenicians by the Greeks) offered sacrifices to their gods. The Phoenicians referred to this practice the letters MLK. Unfortunately, vowels were not a thing yet, but this word - perhaps pronounced molk - is clearly associated with the character Moloch, the Hebrews’ looking-glass version of an evil Canaanite god who, among his crimes, receives children as burnt offerings. It is not uncommon for cultures to make up atrocities about their enemies. There is no good archaeological evidence that the MLK-sacrifices in Canaan involved children, let alone child sacrifices to the storm god in particular, so we should probably leave poor Baal-Hadad alone in that regard. Go further west a few centuries later though, in the Phoenicians’ North African colony of Carthage, and it is pretty clear that another Baal (Lord) did receive children as burnt offerings. Many of the most famous biblical references to Baal, for example the tale of Jezebel, are related to the traditions of the cities of Sidon and Tyre, where the title of Baal (Lord) was applied to deities other than Hadad.
@wormwood822
@wormwood822 13 днів тому
I think Judges 11 is also important to consider with regard to this topic.
@ronaldbobeck9636
@ronaldbobeck9636 11 днів тому
Doctor are you an Atheist? Just asking as Dr Bert Erhanm say he is . Came right out and said it . Just a straight answer would be appreciated. Thank you.
@danjohnston9037
@danjohnston9037 13 днів тому
You might get some " interesting " people looking for that book They might find the reading level challenging though
@BobSmith-lb9nc
@BobSmith-lb9nc 13 днів тому
The Ammonite god Milcom as מלכם malkām “their king” (Zephaniah 1:5, 2 Samuel 12:30, Jeremiah 49:1,3, Amos 1:15), “their Melekh," or LXX Greek Molech, which HALOT suggests is a dysphemism based on Hebrew בשת bošet “shame.”
@bgmac1219
@bgmac1219 13 днів тому
Justice for Jason should definitely be the academic consensus...
@tarjeibjerkedalene
@tarjeibjerkedalene 12 днів тому
Exodus 13:13-14 Strange thing if the child ask his father what it means. YHWH developed from child sacrifice to prohibit it say more about Dan’s assumptions. Good luck with those assumptions.
@sketchygetchey8299
@sketchygetchey8299 13 днів тому
METALLICA!!!!!
@infiniti28160
@infiniti28160 13 днів тому
As the snake in the garden of eden gave eve the idea of knowledge little did eve know it would be used to tax whatever came afterwards.. Hebrew text in Genesis 3:13 Beguiled - nasha - to lend on interest, be a creditor Job 1: 12 Have fun.
@tussk.
@tussk. 13 днів тому
The more I read about this god chappy, the less I like him.
@azurejester1520
@azurejester1520 13 днів тому
I've heard remixes of AJFA where you can hear the bass. They made him eat wasabi one time. Lars is not a good drummer. He really lucked out linking up with those guys The bass guitar is probably better than whatever instrument you play. Sorry, I don't make the rules
@sotl97
@sotl97 11 днів тому
Yowzers...
@Spiritof_76
@Spiritof_76 12 днів тому
Of course Yahweh wanted a child sacrifice from time to time. Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) as a burnt sacrifice to the lord. Exodus 12:29 God killed every first-born child of every family in Egypt. Genesis 22 Abraham told to sacrifice his son, Isaac. There are more. All-loving, my arse.
@Darisiabgal7573
@Darisiabgal7573 13 днів тому
was they any real god in the ancient world. gods are supposed to be immortal, so where all those thousands of gods?
@lysanamcmillan7972
@lysanamcmillan7972 13 днів тому
"Real god"? How do you test for real gods? Is there a protocol? What are the safeguards against the gods knowing they're being tested for? Or are you thinking you have to interview strangers on the bus to find one? Heavens to St. Theresa.
@Darisiabgal7573
@Darisiabgal7573 13 днів тому
@@lysanamcmillan7972 If I see Ishtar standing over me at 3AM, she’s real, otherwise just another wet dream😎
@hrvatskinoahid1048
@hrvatskinoahid1048 13 днів тому
Moleh is an ancient type of idol worship. This is clear from Rambam, Laws of the Worship of Stars and Idols 6:3 and Kesef Mishneh there; Sefer Ha'Hinuh Commandment 208; Rashi and Ramban on Leviticus 18:21.
@pelegsap
@pelegsap 13 днів тому
In Hebrew (at least modern, aka Israeli Hebrew) the word "Molech" means "(the) ruler" (i.e. yhe one who rules over a kingdom), from the root M-L-CH, king. I always thought that the Molech was a reference to some god as "a ruling god". I find it odd that it would refer to an act of sacrifice, but hey - you learn something new each day :-)
@roberthunter6927
@roberthunter6927 13 днів тому
"There was never a god". Fixed it for you! :-)
@lysanamcmillan7972
@lysanamcmillan7972 13 днів тому
Oh, look, an apologist for the nothing side of all-or-nothing religion. Binarism was only saved from obscurity by Thomas Aquinas because he had a metaphorical hard-on for Aristotelianism. Happy to reject any possibility the answer to "is there a god" is other than yes or no? Thank a Roman Catholic.
@roberthunter6927
@roberthunter6927 13 днів тому
@@lysanamcmillan7972 Things either exist or they do not. Unless you want to get into a discussion about quantum particles or something. I am not claiming omniscience, but generally, we wind our way through life on the basis of what can be demonstrated. I can't prove or disprove that any god exists. Unicorns may exist, and perhaps I can't see them. But I will take a punt and presume that they don't exist until I see a demonstration to the contrary. That is called "working knowledge". Working knowledge, is by necessity, "binary" as you call it. For example. Is my dog alive? If he is dead, I will bury him, and remember him with fond memories. If he is alive, I feed him, groom him, bath him, play ball with him, walk him, take him to the vet when he needs it. Love him. If you want to go full solipsistic, neither I nor the dog exists. So yes, I can ponder about virtual photons, because that is part of the explanatory behavior concerning observed quantum phenomena. it is a model. We model our world, hopefully to track reality. Like when I "imagine" buses in the street. I have this weird notion that if I run into one, it might be a really bad day for me. But I have an open mind. DEMONSTRATE god to me, any god.
@0nlyThis
@0nlyThis 13 днів тому
There was never a god in the ancient world named God.
@user-pm3mw8xw8d
@user-pm3mw8xw8d 13 днів тому
Exodus 22:30? A growing "consensus" among scholars (the scholars of the past 3000 years missed it?) The verse talks about cattle, not children 😐
@lavieestlenfer
@lavieestlenfer 13 днів тому
Pretty sure he meant verse 29.
@user-pm3mw8xw8d
@user-pm3mw8xw8d 13 днів тому
@@lavieestlenfer OK, that makes more sense. I should have seen that. Problem though: that word translated as 'give' isn't used anywhere else in scripture to mean 'sacrifice'. It's not even saying sacrifice of your first fruits. It means something more like 'dedicate'. You might also notice elsewhere, when scripture talks about sacrifices, it lays out very specific instructions for how the sacrifice is to be performed; it never just says anything like 'give' without detailed rules for it. Dan's premise, and the so-called consensus, is just plain wrong. And worse, I have no doubt Dan is fully aware that what I just said is true.
@glenwillson5073
@glenwillson5073 13 днів тому
​@@user-pm3mw8xw8d After watching Dan for some time, I have agree with you.
@infiniti28160
@infiniti28160 13 днів тому
The giving of first fruits to the lord can be seen in two ways. If being a farmer, you can either slaughter the animal, or you can set it free for the lord to take care of himself. In other words let nature take its course. Most descendants of kain that are in the game for profittering will slaughter the animal as a pious show of giving. "look at me i sacrifice to god" type of affait thus absolving himself of any guilt he may feel in the eyes of others. Its a con and as many fell for the trick, christ comes along and without pointing out its a con, changes the covenant to be more inline without it being able to be usurped.. Meat torn by beasts, is indicating of the first born be taken from the mother by a farmer that is not serving the lord and in doing so is acting like a beast. Decendants of kain are beasts. The meat is for the dogs that they are.
@glenwillson5073
@glenwillson5073 13 днів тому
@@infiniti28160 Translation; Here are my two baseless made up reasons, the giving of first fruits to the lord can be seen as.
@SkullDice
@SkullDice 13 днів тому
I find it funny how the worshipers of the star of Remphan are trying to cover their rituals from the public eye, even to the point of fabricating evidence, don't believe me?, search The Romance of a People and pay attention to the Rabbi's offering, now there's already a footage of this on UKposts but it's edited and the offering part has been cut so I suggest you to search for the raw unedited footage and see it for yourselves.
@infiniti28160
@infiniti28160 13 днів тому
The name derives from combining the consonants of the Hebrew melech (“king”) with the vowels of boshet (“shame”), Leviticus 18:21 2 Kings 23: 10 2 Kings 21:6 The child sacrifice of the first born is misconstrued as it indicates that teaching to child the laws of heaven instead of the usual teachings of the patriarchs. A practice still found in tibetan culture where a young child is schooled into becoming the ruler and not the common practise of being a priest merchant or warrior, or any other division found within a kingdom. Isaac being an example, was the ritual where isaac became bound by the lord so as to create a kingdom using the legal apparatus denoted by the goat. Nothing more shamefull than a son after becoming an adult and viewing his father as lacking qualities where it shows a depraved mentality. Echoes of noah and his sons. Neil Young & Crazy Horse - A Chance On Love [Love And Only Love] - (Official Audio). grunged out rock from the sixties up until today.
@schen7913
@schen7913 13 днів тому
Sounds like something you just made up, tbh. That's like saying tomato was derived from potato -- and then making up a reason for it.
@infiniti28160
@infiniti28160 13 днів тому
@@schen7913 Maybe words are created from a source you still havent understood, like disaster, meaning to dismis the signs in heaven or compassion derived from compass and its related useage of a 360 degree viewpointer. As for tomato and potato, Solanum might help you find the link.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 13 днів тому
@@infiniti28160Just the same, it would be cool if you cited your sources. If your ideas are divinely inspired, I guess that’s your source.
@infiniti28160
@infiniti28160 13 днів тому
@@MarcosElMalo2 Sources huh, read Job 38:33 . Do you think the God of the scriptures would leave mankind without being able to understand his laws? The verses surrounding this one would reveal an understanding not within the main body of the scriptural text, and the understanding found within such construct, will explain alot of the text, both the OT and NT, that seems perplexing to most people that havent done their due diligence. Its up to the reader to search for what is behind the scriptures themselves instead of shadow boxing. Divining for a stream of water hidden from human eyes, yes divinity is such. The divining rod uses two stems merging into one. "If thine eye be single, thy body will be full of light"
@NorbertKasko
@NorbertKasko 13 днів тому
​@@infiniti28160Jeremiah 20:24-27! It is clear that this is a human sacrifice religion. Also from the story of Jepta. You are defending it because you are a brainwashed churchgoer.
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