Any results suprise you? With over 23,000 of you graciously completing my survey to rate all of the packs in Sims 4 I was able to put together this video! If you want to know how I organised the data, or just quickly view the pack rankings, or even download the source data, you can find it on my website here: jamesturner.yt/sims-pack-ratings Thanks again so much to those who participated in the survey, we had so many more get involved this year and I really appreciate it!

I bet James was so proud of his audience for rating my first pets stuff the lowest 😂

You should add a rating for how influenced your voting was by bugs

They really should just turn the vacation worlds into normal worlds, since they don't make more, and added rental lots to normal worlds. Except for Batuu, I suppose. Really, I just want to be able to live in Granite Falls.

Justice for Get to Work!! If any expansion deserves a refresh it's that one. They could add so much to the careers to make them exciting again - even if they just added a whole new career - and if they updated aliens to be more in depth like later occults, I bet ratings would skyrocket

Can we please do this every year? ❤

It’s crazy that they did a whole expansion on high school but didn’t do an update to make teens look like teens and not just young adults.

Honestly I feel like Get Together is always done dirty. SUCH a top tier pack!

I feel like there should be a companion survey - for the packs you don’t own, are they a) I want that b) maybe when it goes on sale c) only if it’s free or d) do not put that in my game

Get Together is probably the most underrated pack... the club system is so versatile and i feel like most people just dont get deep enough in to realise that but my game without that pack would be so different and also much harder

As a professional survey researcher being able to download the data is such a treat. Thank you!

I'm SO shocked how low Gwt Together is. I guess the CAS isn't really strong, but I use clubs ALL THE TIME just purely to summon a group of sims. All the cousins in a legacy challenge? A homework group? Meeting eligible bachelors? Forcing a sim and a celebrity to be friends? It's SO useful of you don't play with mod cheats

I think we can easily pinpoint the expansion and game pack popularity requirements from this - and you said it yourself James - replayability. If the content fits every world and every gameplay you do, then it's great. If it's something you might do once or twice, it's a waste of money. Thanks for your hard work and effort here, James. Brilliant video. Hope we get another one next year.

I agree that rating the "bugginess" of the pack would be useful. It would help to know how much of the game is affected by the bugs, too. For example: - No bugs (or just regular Sims bugs lol) - Minor Annoyance/Visual Glitches - Broken CAS clothing/items - Broken CAS Sims features - Broken Build/Buy items - Broken gameplay - Breaks other packs gameplay - Breaks base game gameplay This would be better as a list with checkmarks instead of a scale from 1-10 since each pack could have a different collection of issues that might matter to different players.

Tartosa deserves some recognition, it carried my wedding stories. Without the world the pack would be complete ass

You should do a build challenge with just the top 10 owned packs

James (paraphrased): When we get lost in a Let's Play and it grows beyond the pack and we tell all these stories, that's when I know the pack is really good. Meanwhile, in the Bigwallets there was the soap opera that was Get Famous and the 25 Episode quest to revive the dead party members of Discover University.

I’m actually so peeved that island living did better than get together 😂 get together is a way better pack in general

I’ve seen so many “which sims 4 pack should you buy” videos, and this one is BY FAR the absolute most detailed and best for people who really need help figuring out which packs to get. Great job James!!

for anyone using this as a buying guide, the best way to determine whether you want a pack or not imo, especially for stuff packs and kits, is to just look at the items and features and decide if you want to pay for it. the only objective thing you can measure about a pack is whether or not it works, so just make sure to look that up as well

I love these, you edited this video nicely. Can't wait for the next year's votes

The heels that came with Luxury Party Stuff are my favorite in game, and I do enjoy the dresses. Idk why they don't give us actual heels in CAS anymore.

The stats and graphs were so nicely done and easy to follow. Thanks for your work, James!

Awesome as always!!! EA should pay you for doing this research. I don't understand how Eco Livestyle and City Living are so low -- can't imagine playing without them - it's not just a one and done

I wonder if For Rent will bump Del Sol Valley's world score, I think the world will be so much better to play in once apartments and townhomes are added to it. Looking forward to doing this all again next year! Fingers crossed we get more awesome stuff packs!

I had a lot of fun doing the survey and it's so well done, it really helps you out deciding which pack to get on the next sale 😊Doing a category for which packs are the most buggy seems very fitting. Definitely we are gonna have fun with that one 😄

With the holiday worlds (minus Batuu, sorry), I wish they would get converted to "normal" worlds with rental lot types like we got in later packs/expansions. - I personally tend to forget they exsist which is a shame with Selvadorada especially.

Eco Lifestyle was ROBBED! Great vid ❤

I can imagine why the Desert Luxe Kit hasn't changed in regard to how many people own it. That's often a problem with steep "early bird" types of deals -- when buyers know they missed a deal on something, they're dissuaded from buying it later at regular price because paying more feels bad. It's like reverse FOMO.

I really don't understand why Spa Day gets so much hate. I personally use it EVERY time I play, dropping by the spa is a great way to erase all the abuse I put my poor Sims through so I can start the next round of it! 😈 Also, having a yoga mat/meditation stool on your home lot is a HUGE boost to controlling your sims mood. Need to bust out a book? Do a yoga routine first and get 8 hours of inspiration! I know it's very focused in on it's theme but I think it's a great theme that can fit in to any sims life in 1 way or another.

I’m surprised Spa Day and Get Together were ranked as low as they were I love them both! Pretty much all my sims get into yoga and meditation and I like being a freelance massage therapist because I can take the table with me and pop it up anywhere. And Get Together is just an icon. I think it was my first expansion pack I ever bought

i know the refresh concept went away as soon as the first one was released, but i would love to see a Realm of Magic refresh, specifically to make it more cross-pack compatible. i feel like there is a lot of potential for spells related to concepts that came from other packs, such as using magic to manipulate the weather.

James over here doing free market research for the gurus and devs 😂

james, you're a cinematic mastermind! i think as a community, we should all take the time to appreciate the massive effort that went into making this video

Cottage living remains SUPREME. It has errands, treats, 6 animals, good build buy, cas, the best world, agnes crumplebottom, better gardening system, fairs you can enter, cross stitching skill, new deaths and woohoo spots, animal gifts etc. there is no other sims 4 pack that can stand up to how much gameplay this pack has and i will forever stand by this until the make an actually better pack

A category I would recommend is maybe having us vote on “How likely are you to recommend this pack?” On a scale of 1-10. It would be pretty good at getting an overall scale of how liked a pack is cos I feel like dream home decorator would be nowhere near the top lol

I'm really impressed by how professional this whole project is. Amazing job, James! We appreciate it a lot!

I loved the last video you did like this, and can't wait to see where all this year's packs rankings lie amongst the rest.

This is so helpful, James! As a very late player to the Sims 4 game (I was pulled from Sims 3 kicking and screaming), I didn't know what packs were good and was afraid to dive in and buy all the bad ones and run screaming. This is gold because it is real players, giving real feedback. Just splendid. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this to help the rest of us out! And poor Batuu is a little polarizing, to put it mildly! It is funny that I did buy Sims 4 Seasons before seeing this, because I loved Seasons in Sims 3 so much, I just had to get it. And I don't regret it at all!

Its so crazy how everyones gameplay is different. A lot of the least voted packs like get to work and spa day and my wedding stories and not well liked coz i absolutely adore those packs!

new to the channel and am just finding out you did the werewolves builds. MAN that library is just stellar. my favorite build in the game tbh

6:42 Backyard Stuff is a must for the summer for me. There's not much to do in The Sims 4 in the summer. No set holidays. So I usually host parties for my kids and have their friends over for lemonade and sliding.

A "how buggy is it?" category will also need to be tied to a "when did you last play this content?" question, to be a useful statistic at all. Many people do not revisit content frequently - There's a lot of it! - and especially not the less popular content. This question would also need a reminder to evaluate the content *without* mods - Especially Dine Out and MWS, as mods to change that gameplay are particularly prevalent. That could lead to a question of do people use mods to change gameplay from any pack though! Which would be an interesting statistic (and probably useful for console players to know before buying, since they're stuck with default functionality/bugs).

i was so shocked with how low get together was rated! it's really fun when you know how to play with it tbh. it's easily one of my favourite packs, defo in my top 3. it completely changed my gameplay with the club system. my sims actually have friends when i make a club and it's always really interesting to choose what traits and what you want your club to do. it's great for friend groups, or for things like a book club or a debate club, i use that a lot for university. (study clubs are really good for that too, i never use the university clubs, they are always broken for me lmao) the cas is fun, the tudor style for building is amazing to play with and create, and i like how there is a modern vibe to it as well. it's fun to make an old-style home look new. and of course, those white plain GT columns are a must in every build, i love the closets and the games you can play. sure, i don't use the darts or the foosball table everytime, or even the dance floors, but when i do, it's so much fun. the actual clubbing is really fun for me too, i love making families where the teens sneak out and dance with their friends, or a group of young adults who party all night. it's fun and different from the usual family gameplay, although i do like to make families live in that world, it's fun to make crazy rich europeans live in amazing tudor homes, or modern houses on the island. it's always funny to see the randomized townies go clubbing, like a sim's mother dancing with a grandma or seeing the occasional nancy landgraab and bella goth. the bluffs and the ancient ruins are really fun to play with, organizing and getting invited to the parties really fun with all of the lights and people there, it's one of the only times that a place in the sims is packed and the dj's are so cool. i wish a dj career came with it though, that's probably my only downside. and how the cafe's are really broken. i love the world and the European style, it's so different to oasis springs and willow creek, and it's such a pretty world. i love the size and the different districts, like the older side of town, the private island, the countryside and the modern hang out spot. it gives my sims places to go, i don't usually build community lots so it's fun to have places to go. the townies are cool too, i love the behr sisters and the villarael's are so mysterious, sure the builds could be better for them, but it's old, it's expected to be a bit ugly. everyone has their own opinions, but to me it's a great pack and i wish it was higher rated lol. i couldn't play without it! :)

So sad about Wedding Stories. It works very well for me, and i know it doesn't for most people, but it makes for so many memorable and emotional moments for my Sims. Wish they could fix it for everyone.

Tiny living was the first DLC I bought for my game, and it's really good. 3 different lots, useful furniture that is super cute, lot perks while you are in game and it's cheaper because it's a stuff pack!

This is so interesting, thank you for doing this! My random comments while watching: - Outdoor retreat got significantly worse after seasons. The pack-specific plants should not be affected by the weather IMO. - Strangerville is so underrated😅 - Now that we have rental lots everywhere I wish they would open up the holiday worlds to normal worlds - I don't like occults, but had to get Werewolves for B&B! I remember being excited to not having to buy it and then I saw B&B and was like dammit, there goes my money😅 - I totally forgot there was gameplay in Dream Home Decorator🙈 - The Get to work detective career is also ruined after seasons, as your perp might nor have the clothes on that the APB says, if they are in their warm or cold weather outfits. - Britechester is beautiful but there's way too little lots to make it a vibrant world. - There's a few things I wish would be more replayable, eg. cleaning up the island in Sulani and cleaning up pollution in Eco Lifestyle. - I wish cats, dogs and horses weren't part of the family because I always play in the same save and the 150 sims per save runs out very quickly when adding animals! - Horse ranch was a surprise for me! I was not even going to get it at first, but it was so well-made! The horse aspect is actually the lamest part! I love the goat and sheep and especially build mode since it is super easy to make restricted builds with only Horse ranch and base game, which really shows how thought through B&B is! - Growing together gameplay is great, but the world is such a let down😔 So much potential, but it's so empty. And it's hard to make builds that fit into the world because the buildings around each lot are so stylized. - The Cottage living score really shows how well-rounded the pack is! Every aspect of it is thought through. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk😅

Dine out needs a refresh soo bad! So many potential! Combining with the new Cook stuff

I just recently did play through the high school years stuff. Literally turned aging off trying to get aspirations. The one is completely broken. In my opinion you cant complete it cause most join social bunny before the last level of it. And it wont give you the 250 followers unless you are on that part when it ticks over the 250 mark. The other thing is. Even though my sim was like best friends with every teen at school she was never invited out to a party. And thats something i was excited about.

As someone who was there (playing the Sims) but not there there (in the Sims community) back in the day, the only reason I even bought Get to Work - other than there being not a lot of packs back then - was that I loved the alien gameplay and the ability to have male pregnancies before the big gender customization update. Granted, it wasn't true to life from the point aliens were mentioned, but it was a story I wanted to tell through my Sims.

This had SUCH informative statistical data- it is just what I needed while looking through all of the packs and kits on sale right now! You totally sold me on Werewolves, too (mostly for the builds you did) but also because I had no idea it was a pack v pack scenario in the game play! I learned so much about the highlights of the different packs! I also just found your video regarding your JAMES code and I am so happy to use it when I pay for my well-informed purchases! Thanks James, and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and Deligracy!

I'm hyped to see how For Rent does next year with these results. I imagine it'll end up being a must-have staple pack - like how the City Living city/apartment life vibes are still quite popular, even though you can't actually customize the apartments in City Living.

Something to note about City Living is there’s frequent graphical glitches and lag issues on lower end computers and laptops that have only gotten worse as time has gone on, which I feel like is what is impacting its score. Still love the pack, just wish it worked better (like many things in this game)

I was so pleased to see Tiny Living did so well! You rarely hear people talk about it, but the gameplay is so fun! And it’s such a great challenge for builders!

I get so dad when Outdoor retreat doesnt get the love it deserves! It introduced vacation worlds! I used to spend weeks saving up to take my sims camping. It's definitely something I like because it reminds me of growing up, but damn Outdoor retreat, I can't live without it.

I laughed when he described skiing and snowboarding. Of course, it's just going up and then coming down. But that's what it's like when you actually snowboard or ski. (I don't spend a lot of time doing it in the game, but I frequently take them on a "day trip" to go do the various things, very similar to how I do the same thing in real life.)

It sounds crazy but I only started playing The Sims, particularly TS4, last year, so this type of video is very helpful for me. I'm also just a college student rn so I can't just splurge on every single TS4 pack right away, which makes this video essential aaaa Thank you for doing this again, Semaj!

I started to do the survey, then realized I couldn’t remember a lot of details about some of the older packs so I stopped. I didn’t want to unfairly give something a bad score if I didn’t really remember how it worked.

I always find this so interesting, I think it shows that packs have gotten better since 2014/2015, there's a reason the older packs are lower in their categories. I feel bad for Get to Work though, that world rating really brought it down a lot.

it would be cool to rate gameplay by ages too, like rate toddler, teen, elder, etc. i feel like that’s something simmers are paying more attention to (& thus maybe the sims team will too in the upcoming year). for example, outfits being available for children & toddlers but not infants, or the overall lack of teen & elder specific activities. it’d be cool to see what everyone thinks & how it changes with each pack!

I think it's interesting that the worst rated kits were CAS kits and the higher rated kits were build mode

Really enjoy the way you’ve edited this video! Appreciate the time and effort you put into this video!! Would love this every year 😇

These videos are honestly so helpful. None of the packs I've bought since the last one were in the bottom half of the votes, and no regrets! Bring on the next one! 🎉

Get to work will always be a favorite of mine, because we got Lady Bigwallet and her Bigwallet-Legacy because of it. ❤

Thank you James for your hard-work. You should totally keep doing the survey each year, it makes it more interesting to compare datas. Also, I have been hesitant about which kits to buy, so I am gonna use the kits rating to do some shopping 😊

I love when you do things like this bc it shows how much you care and love the game/community. Such a legend! ❤

I had low low expectations of horse ranch, but it actually is really fun

As someone who enjoys working with data, I really loved this video. Thank you for not only taking the time to create the survey but to collect the results and visualize that data in such a fun video!

The editing and presentation of the ratings is top notch! I love how this is presented!

Wow Jungle adventure comes in 4th for game packs?! Above vampires and realm of magic? That’s wild

love these pack rating videos, thank you for making them so fun and informative ❤️ I really enjoy reading everyone's thoughts in the comments too, James' community is the best :) it would be amazing to get a refresh on dine out and island living because those packs have so much potential!!

I love that you do this. I literally only own the base game and Get to Work. I haven’t played the Sims 4 because I got board of it and moved to other things. I want to play it, and honestly live vicariously through UKposts, but I get so overwhelmed with all the stuff packs, game packs, and so on. Lists like this help me focus on what I really want to play. Or at least add what I want to wishlists. 😊

thank you so much!! with black friday and cyber monday coming up (happening now actly), many will be buying discounted packs (me included) and videos like these wld help us make much more informed & financial decisions!

I’d love a category for the NPCs/townies related to the pack next year! It doesn’t necessarily influence wanting to buy the pack for those who don’t already own them but simmers in general are known to have quite loud opinions on them.

omg I loved the survey you did last year, but this year is even better. I really like that you're doing this and hope you continue to do so every year, with even more people participating, because this is something that the sims community really needs! Great job, love your content!

Thank you for this video, it's always so interesting seeing all the information and data. The graphs and everything, you did an amazing job.

I can never understand the blooming rooms hype. There are maybe 3 usable plants and the rest are so niche it’s impossible to use most of the time

Thanks for geeking out on this data and being so detailed. I love the effort you always put into audience engagement 🥰

I love those rating videos I’ve been doing it last year as well! A huge thanks to you James for taking time to this it’s not just entertaining but also good to know. Especially if you thinking of gifting sims to someone or giving recommendations

James pls. Your friends in AEST have stinky corporate jobs and a bedtime on weeknights

I really enjoyed filling out the survey and the results were really fun to watch. The data was also super interesting, definitely happy to do it again next year

So helpful! Especially with the sales on atm (lol), I was browsing packs the other day and wondered which to get. I only have Cottage Living and a couple of kits so didn't get involved with the survey but I'm thinking by this time next year I'll have a few more based on these ratings (and others that may appear next year)! Thanks for taking the time to do this James, and everyone who participated! :D

Thank you so much for doing this again. The number of participants was pleasantly surprising and it gives me a good idea of what packs to put in my builds if I want them to be accessible for downloads from the gallery.

I really enjoy these videos, and I think they must be so helpful for people new to the game which we probably have a lot of now because base game is now free. I think journey to Batu would’ve worked better as a standalone game, more like the Sims 3 Medieval. I think it would’ve loaned itself much better to blending the worlds of Star Wars and the Sims together.

I personally love Snowy Escape so much. Being Asian, I appreciate having elements I can relate to and I like that it's kinda open worldy, like you can hike and get moodlets. And it also has festivals like City Living. I like combining the build elements w Spa Day. I am giddy for the new pack and look forward to seeing more diverse worlds in the Sims4.

This is awesome! A few surprises but a lot of this makes sense. I love that you do this every year -- thank you for putting in the work!

This was the best!! I look forward to this video each year! Amazing job James. This was so much work! We appreciate you! This list was so accurate💯

This is such a good video! It's so helpful and fun. Really happy to see my Werewolves being highly rated too!

I would love to see a metric on players who *have* and *do not have* Custom Content. I wonder if there are correlations with how bugged playability is with that metric applied. Excellent video and I really looked forward to the results.

This is one of my favorite new traditions, watching your Sims survey every year. It got me to actually start playing the Sims last year! It helped me decide how I wanted to approach the gameplay AND i ended up bingeing a lot of your Let's Play Bigwallet series.

I love participating in these and getting to see the results! these are so much fun to watch! 💚

Always interesting to see the results of these, especially the way you compile the data. I do think Growing Together was rated too high, because if you remove the infant basegame update it feels like an incomplete pack. I think if they'd done more milestone/gameplay for the other child stages it might've felt more complete.

Nothing will beat the high I felt waiting for Seasons to release. I played it all night 😅

Thank you James for putting this together! I love your attention to detail in coding and UI in the survey this year!

I love this! You have to do this every year 😇 Cottage living, growing together and horse ranch are my favourites! I wish dine out and dream home decoration would not be so buggy

I think for the next survey James could add replayability in the game and expansion packs options, cause that its a important aspect to know before buying one of this packs

Beautiful! I knew cottage living was #1 😊 thanks for your hard work James!

I loved every bit of this video. I did not even realize it was 40 minutes. super informative and not too slow, and moving on after a quick review and opinion. great video!

Congratulations on putting this together, James. Its a huge project and I love all the breakdowns. I’m starting a new role at work that is more focused on research and I can’t help but want to steal some of these data presentation ideas 😅

I feel like the kits were rated so low because kits as a concept is still p*ssing people off but I genuinely think some of the ratings (e.g. country kitchen, throwback kit etc) don't make any sense, those kits are sooo good. Also justice for menswear because while there are a few pieces in it that are more let's say... fashion forward, many of the pieces like the skirt and sweaters are so freaking versatile, I'm using them on both masc and fem frames. Overall, I'm pretty sure the kits didn't get much love simply because they're kinda controversial. Except bust the dust, that one eats a** 😂