Boop

Hope all is well for you and yours brother, stay safe and keep up the great work!!!!!!

Get a life

Grow a backbone

Grow a pair

love the shade

I immediately went to the comments to find this comment to 👍 it

Lol I went here to comment this

And funnily enough, Dream goes from Minecraft cheats to huge Minecraft social community drama in less than 2 years (I'm not visiting those tweets, I first know the drama because of some videos about "Dream writing 40000 words of text regarding his drama on 1 thread" got randomly recommended in my homepage

lol actually it didn’t click with me until i saw this comment 😂

If it weren't a training ground for both sides id say this is a pretty solid idea. *Edit. This was just a simple observation from someone not so invested. I'm not interested in being educated further thanks.

​@@kingk3245 Mods almost always have the edge over cheaters when using known methods, cheaters only have an edge when pioneering a new method that the mods don't know how to detect. A cheat% category like the one being suggested is excellent for learning how to detect new cheating methods and keep ahead of crafty cheaters.

Would be funny if they post a legitimate run in it lol

​@@JogVodka Would posting a legit run in a cheat category count as cheating?

@@wontorres Then you'll have to catch them and ban them

“He clearly cheated, he didn’t have coke and pizza which is standard practice for all speedrunners as established by top SMB1 runner Badabun”

Honorable mention of the worst and funniest reason a cheater cheated: bee boy simping over a lesbian who was already in a relationship

@@uranium54321lmao

@@celty228He was down stupendously

Minecraft cheater tier list incoming?

I slipped and broke my leg on a mopped floor

why is a spectrogram used for that

​@@IcedDoubleYT not sure if I understand the question, but if you're asking what a spectrograph is used for when in the context of catching cheaters, it's because it makes a visual representation of audio, so if someone takes two different clips and tries to put them together to make a new clip, the visual representation can show where the splicing happens even if the human ear cannot pick up on it. Dont know if I explained that well but i tried

​@@sliggoomaster7213 i think that you explained that very well, they probably understood.

​@@sliggoomaster7213 yah u did a good job

Me who see people on 2b2t got 1 shot by ender crystal while wearing full enchant diamon armor and see the intro gameplay breaking it in bare ass and still alive. - nani the fuk?

@@mentosvagabond Explosion damage is tied to your difficulty. In peaceful mode, you take 0 damage from explosions.

It's all about the lens you look through the video with. You could be looking *vaguely* "for evidence of cheating" but once you know exactly what you're looking for, you narrow down your focus into the small details and can identify them because you are expecting a certain something to pop up.

​@@mentosvagabondthese are peaceful mode speedruns

Well at least this isn't another MC groomer vid... Yet

How dare you, he was helping the comunnity. 😠 Haha, great job, cheaters need to be exposed and banned, other people deserve the spotlight.

Creating doubt in the evidence is part of the reason why cheaters deny it

always press x to doubt

@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist4 wrong place dude

I also love that Karl added the part where he was like "I don't care anyway", just to make it extra clear that this person is very much a child mentally

Was a bit jarring when he first said that 😂

NEEEEEEEEEERD 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

⁠@@sirvereeborington2065 Ok Sir Veree Borington

☝🤓

🤓🤓

This is called "tournament"

Yeah...

Illumina i think

Not really, the number of high profile cheaters is just because the game itself is so popular. When you have like 5 cheaters people who keep up through youtube are going to see them but not the hundreds of other people legitimately grinding their times down.

I am aware it's a joke btw just, some people actually think that.

@solsystem1342 naaa the community around the game is rotten. Half of yall are zombies who follow the jigging keys and the other half are cheaters holding the keys.

But was it?

​@@JD-mz1rl it was a reference to dream

He definitely speedran the obligatory Dream fiasco reference.

dream : 👁👄👁

Lol

that's damage control, it's typical to see this example on people who screwed something up but they still have a chance to "save" something, instead of coming out clean with everything from the start, that way they don't have to genuinely apologyze because god forbit they feel like being weak on the internet

One you notice one layer of damage control, you are to assume this person will never be honest, only revealing exactly how much they believe will let them get away with everything else.

I do see some truth in those claims A fake run that's people think is legit CAN inspire people to start speedrunning on their own and bring more attention to the community Everything depends on the specific situations, but we are often too harsh on cheaters Also, the fact that (insert any cheater) got away with it for so long is our fault because we didn't notice it

@@Xnoob545 too harsh on cheaters lol? you must be one yourself

Still nothing beats good old "arrogance and contempt" from the Doom community.

Small world!!

honestly the apple skin or apple core mods should already be vanilla. it’s so dam helpful

I'm not a speedrunner, so I don't know the standard of recording a speedrun; but how would the AppleSkin mod be installed/implemented if the runs submitted are only thru video evidence, and not any kind of recorded gameplay demo like in a source game? It would only show up clientside- so only if the original speedrunner had the mod installed... right?

@@oyah999 not sure what you mean exactly but the mod is client sided and it does show in gameplay recordings and screenshots if that’s what you may have meant

@@Zessionn What I mean is that the speedrunner would have to have the mod installed in order for the AppleSkin mod visual to be in the recording. Hexicube recommending Karl Jobst to install the mod wouldn't change anything since Karl isn't the person speedrunning (recording the original speedrun). If Hexicube wanted the AppleSkin mod visual to show up in Karl's videos, he would have to go to the source of the video - the speedrunners who recorded the vid in the first place (or the moderators who can demand the AppleSkin mod to be used). (This is all with the assumption that the speedruns are reviewed with video evidence and not a demo like with source games.)

pretty bad job, no?

Karl is an absolute legend, that's why

I feel like if we told 4chan about it, they’d even find the cheater’s home address 😂 what a scary site

"*dies of The Slow*"

Well it was also the missing TNT which was way more obvious

That's some Monk-level of attention to detail.

I think its easier to see smaller things once you notice one thing is cheated. The problem is cheaters arent smart and dont learn from other exposed cheaters. You will be caught eventually so i guess enjoy the clout while you can

Imagine also, one of the pieces of evidence of your speedrun being fake is the speed in which clouds move.

no he didn’t, he just made that up

Then you would cheat by not cheating though... right? 😅

I have a better(?) idea. Not an entire category, but something to be hold as an event by a person/sponsor, anyone can join and provide proofs, but the person with the most submitted proofs/one who managed to compile everything gets the prize

That sounds not too bad, I would have it be with cheating allowed but if someone catches you cheating it gives a score based on how major of cheats and quantity of cheats, most cheater score at the end of a season wins a prize.

​@@DarkMagicianGirl0maybe they could have it so when the person submits it they have to show all the cheats they did to the mods?

That would be so cool but i would call it something like Magic records or something where people can sit back and enjoy the spectacle or they can grind away trying to figure out how the trick was accomplished and the performer would be just that, a performer, so they could enjoy being a magician rather than a cheater.

I have seen genuine cases of cheating with good intent. There was a famous one in academia a few years back where a professor was getting very concerned by the quality of papers being accepted by journals and blatantly faked some papers and once he got accepted came forwards to admit it to attempt to get an investigation into current proof standards. I think that's the important thing with cheating 'for good'. Either you have to step forwards yourself or you'd better have someone in a position of authority aware of your intent in advance so they can vouch this was indeed the intent. I do think there does need to be some official equivalent of 'Red Teaming' for speedrunning if just to keep the mods on their toes and thus keep them ahead of the cheaters.

​@@erebusvonmori8050 We can all stop you right there with the conclusion that in this case of the video there was no excuse.

There are good cheaters. I rather take a blatantly obvious cheater that makes something good out of it then the spin bots or in general awful ones. There is many multiplayer games where known cheaters are allowed and liked. How? Well they do abuse it but not to the point of ruining it for everyone else. I have no good example to point to outside of admins etc 'cheating' to catch the scum. But I mean there is for example people in Arma2 or DayZ that make themselves unkillable in a role play way. And if someone talks shit or complain/try and kill them? Then they are going to abuse there cheating :) And no mercy if they find someone else cheating. Like that kind of cheater not going out of there way to grief is nice if done right. When it is obvious and doing it in a fun way. There are admins being told about a cheater and ending up letting them keep playing. And becomes known on the server for it. I think it was someone playing as a item trader? So not being killed on sight as quite needed. Since no one trusted anyone the player trying have fun in there own way had to cheat just to make it work. Was more like a NPC for the server and had fun having god powers. And the server needed someone to stop the on sight no love shooting. That is a good cheater. Did all kinds of things and only cheating like it was part of the experience. Let people kill him etc when it made sense. Made people far more likely to brake from kill on sight just hearing the cheaters voice. Made a huge difference when people dared to talk with others and feel safe with the cheater protecting them. Diffused toxic server behaviors and added to the experience by being a fair dick. Even got kidnapped and the hole server rushed to * the people taking him hostage. Even now the cheater was more then capable to fend for himself. Teleported to places just to shit talk people being attacked. Scared the crap out of camping snipers ruining fun etc. Not a admin but agen like a NPC. Was braking all kinds of rules but still was liked enough to be allowed to stay even if really it should not be allowed on a 'serious' server. XD Agen 100% cheating since the admins where not going to brake the rules. But the cheater did. And was loved for it. 100% not part of the server admins. It was just a cheater that did more good then bad.

Cheaters for good don't hide it.

​@@alanwatts8239 That's not his point. He was answering about the generalization of there being "no good cheaters"

Karl jacobs

Biggest Cheating Scandal in the Observable Universe

Bro I swear when I seen this I thought the same thing! 😆😆😆

"But runner shitbaby420 noticed something was off in everyone's speedruns, including his own..."

Yooo if every speedrun is fake then that means my 4 year run is the world record let's goooooo

speedruns*

Scooby-Doo. Nice 😊

You absolute Minecraft Legends I'll see myself out

"i was doing it for the community! seize them officers!"

“Ruh-roh, Garl, run!”

Some thing inside of my wants to see what an A.I generated Skeptical Pickle would look like.

Lmaoo i had to look for a comment the second i heard it

@@Z0otedangelsame here

Karl doesn't discriminate

I'm going to cheat my to the world record just so Karl can create new content for this legendary community. You're welcome!

You could argue that TASes effectively do it. The difference is that they're honest about it and don't even try to pass themselves off as normal speedruns.

@@angeldude101 just like minecraft speedruns that use calculators

@@moebino2685 Edit: I thought you were replying to something else. -Same reason. Doing the calculation in an external tool that doesn't touch the game itself in real time is considered more acceptable that cutting footage out of the run or modifying the game itself, but in all 3 cases the desire is to reduce the effect of RNG.-

@@angeldude101 speedruns should be you and the game and your brain nothing more nothing less, if speedrunners want less RNG then they should play another game.

Yeah, I almost wish they'd go full Shakespeare on moderators' asses like that one legendary good old Doom cheater who after having been caught wrote a wall of text in response starting with: "You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect"... Just shows you that even cheaters can become absolute legends in their own way by doing something original and meme worthy.

It's narsistic behaviour, "If you are too stupid to not realize im cheating, then it's justified because if you weren't this stupid, you would know better" And once they get caught they always potray themselves as someone who actually did the right thing.

they must embrace the jesus

Right? I did plenty of cheating in single player games because I grew up when cheat codes were really common, but I've never even thought about doing it multiplayer or single player competitive. I honestly don't really get why people do it.

@@christopherhammond5142 clout

​@@christopherhammond5142 Narcissism

​@@christopherhammond5142for money

@@christopherhammond5142 good for you??

It got me too lmao

And we should make it four cubes of solid gold atop a cube of obsidian.

Typical german behavior. Woke af

Don't give anyone ideas to capitalize on poor sportsmanship.

@@KevinKolpack And put it in front of the wrong name

timbers = shivered

They wouldn't dream of it

Who is this "dare" now ? 🤔

calm down

Wait... The cheaters or the ped0s?!? 🤔🧐

The line between fact and fiction is becoming so vague. People are getting better at cheating by the week

Don't apologise; the creator still receives a percentage for each view from a premium subscriber

immediately recognized what he meant in saying it that way lmao

Interesting because I checked your first pr after his ‘wr’ and you still didnt use it either (im basing this off memory at what I looked at). Were you influenced by Niko not using it? I think it was after your 1st pb after Niko’s wr that you got a run with it.

Just checked, and the reason I missed it is because you used the tnt on the last tower on your first pb after his WR, and not the first tower lol.

@@karljobst I used it in my 2nd best time which was a few days b4 niko's run. My first pb after his ''wr'' was a 2:52 (which I know now was actually a wr, thanks niko) where I did use it. Tho he might have not known about it or started splicing the run before he found out about it. When he was creating the world, if you look closely the dates dont match the day he posted the run. After I beat his run and I told him about it he was like ''on the same seed? thats insane'' and when he saw the run he commented on it saying he didnt think the strat was viable. The comment is still there if you wanna see it its on my 2:42 fwr

poor guy used cheats and still lost wr, what an irony

@@eraser0artem Cheaters never win

Guess now you could say he's Nikocraft sd lol

Speedrun communities are small and people make a name for themselves, it makes sense that they would be lenient with people they like

Hahaha true

"I'd have enough to buy a subway sandwich" - The question is, why would you WANT to buy a Subway sandwich?

Extra meat and all

@@shawnryan1313 "Extra meat and all" - Extra meat? So 3 slices?

@@nomore6167 sandwich preferences

I was almost about to go to bed and he posts

The videos don't disappear.. watch whenever

Yeah, YT is not appointment only viewing.

Seeing as he is in the same timezone as me, this video was uploaded between 3-4pm, which is during work hours. I guess he could upload it in like 4-5 hours, but that would still only be 7am for you, and would mean he has to give up family time to do so.

@@InitialDreadlyIt makes no difference when we can all watch them at a time that's convenient to us.

Let’s force the cheaters to forever play the figurine miningame in minish cap… FOREVER ;)

@@erlendvageskar3356 The definition of hell! D:

It's alright though they removed the dislike button so at least his feelings won't get hurt

@@s--b except they can still personally see the dislike counter, it's just to make misinformation harder to spot, God bless Google

😂

Sure you didn't just see one of the other comments pointing the exact same thing out?

@@moopflop8560 I didn't even see it when it happen. Shut it.

He cheated

@@Graterstuuf source?

@@DarkShadic9632 He is just making a joke. Seems like every speedrun is cheated these days.

@@Graterstuuf lol 😆 Karl cheated? he invented a few of the most perfect strategies for optimal runs with other speed runners back in the late 90s and throughout the 2000s

@@DarkShadic9632 he admitted it on he’s yt lol 😂 he really was a cheater himself

there will always be a small group of people with no soul that are chasing that thrill in all facets of life.

It's the thrill of finally getting perfect RNG.

I think the smartest thing Dream ever did, was allow Karl to access all of the data needed to make a determination on whether his intent to cheat was that, or an actual mistake that he handled extremely poorly. It turned out to be the latter, and Dream's own ego and him manipulating half truths made him a whole lot harder to believe. It also didn't help that he does not handle criticism very well, and while it makes sense in context due to Karl's last video on Dream in september of 2021, his enraged and highly toxic explosion towards the mod team turned public opinion against him very quickly.

​@@ExarchGaming "It turned out to be the latter" Not so sure about that. With all the evidence that was given, it all came down to karl believing dream was being sincere. Not that anything proved otherwise. Really no game file or private conversation where you say "why would i lie to this person?" would definitively prove your intent.

Nah, cheaters are cheaters and usually lose all reputation they might have had.

I don't think it really makes a difference, at least not inside a given community - being caught as a cheater is usually a free pass to being persona non grata in a speedrunning community, whether you confess immediately upon accusation/evidence or resist it, and for the most part it seems like sites have moved toward just permabanning people universally (many places used to only do limited time bans but that's happened way less, especially in high profile cases.) After all, admitting to the fact that you did something wrong because you know you're screwed isn't really laudable, it just saves people time. Sometimes there are exceptions for the rare person that suddenly feels guilty and confesses on their own, but even in these cases the general reaction is "you shouldn't have done it in the first place." It's one of those things that reputationally hangs over your head forever in the minds of a lot of people. Resisting it does dig you deeper, but it's like, by being known as a cheater you're already in a hole you probably won't climb out of. I can't think of too many people who have been proven/admitted to cheating but then were allowed back into the same speedrunning community, ever, really no matter the circumstances.

@@ExarchGaming Yeah, he totally forgot he was using a cheat program when going for world records. How gullible and naive can you be? "Oh, whoopsie daisy, totally forgot these programs were on here. teehee." The smartest thing Dream ever did, was create an audience of preteens who will defend him like a Kpop Idol when anything negative gets said about him.

Loyal minds are not easily swayed. It gives power to the corrupt, to the ones who like using the naive to their advantage.

Trust in intuitive good in man is an essential component of the value of society. If you are not ready to give up the value that society can work, you have to conceed a blind faith in your fellow man on several facets of behavior. Honor is one such facet.

@@dopaminecloud Trust in the intuitive good in man is not lost with the acceptance of there existing few malicious individuals within society. They prey upon blind, naive trust. It is wise to remain skeptical, I'd say.

@@dopaminecloud Honour is largely a myth

@@dopesickdog you're basically admitting you have no honor lol. i hate to break it to you, but honor isn't a "myth". there are many things i wouldn't do because of my honor, no matter how much money you paid me.. and i'm dirt poor.

Seriously. Verification rules exist for a reason. If you dont follow them, your run shouldnt be posted regardless of how popular the category is or who the runner is.