You didn’t need to buy another modem but as a fellow tech guy I understand the urge! I’ve been doing this for years now but with my ISP’s router. I logged into their router and turned off the Wi-Fi. Also your speed is probably really fast bc the your mesh system is using 80mhz channels instead of 40mhz (which could be a good thing or bad thing depending on how much other wifi signals your current system can pick up). And yes the added wifi signal from the combo modem will cause interference!

As an AT&T tech, have to say you made a great choice. Coverage is the single biggest issue we face. Putting your providers modem to bridge mode/passthrough and using mesh system will definitely benefit you. If accessing the modem is tricky or intimidating for you, just give a call to your provider and ask them to set up bridge mode. Tech supports reps are trained on this within the first month of getting the job, so 99% of the times you will have it done with them in 5 minutes.

Ran an IT business for over 10 years when I was younger. The problem with the router built into most modems is not necessarily the WiFi, it's the DHCP. That is designed to automatically assign IP addresses to devices. With 2 routers, they can often interfere where an IP is assigned which is outside the range of the other. You can disable that and the WiFi on your modem/router and it should work the same as having a dedicated modem.

That must be SOO nice! I’m currently have issues with mine as well BUT it’s not so easily resolved like yours 😩😭 I live in an area where many companies aren’t even available. Such a struggle tbh. Good for you and your family 👏

Man listen......you sounded so happy that it's fixed I was waiting to see a single tear of happiness.

Just saw your ad for the Remarkable 2 tablet. I must say, loved the ad. Congrats bro. You are literally being asked by brands for ads now. 👍🏼

This came at the perfect time. I've been having issues with our wifi signal for years now, we even have the 2nd gen google mesh wifi system and still our speeds are shit. I'll definitely take your advice here!

For anyone owning one of these Modem/Router Combos: Make sure you use them in Bridge Mode. That essentially disables the WiFi functions of the modem. 9/10 times you can call your ISP and they'll do that for you. Then, just connect a router for WiFi (go the mesh route if your place is too big for a single router) and you should be good to go.

Lol for the first time I think i can actually say the "Average Consumer" title is on point. Knowing a few things about network I never got the ISP modems/ routers combo. Always had my own separate modem / router something the average consumer would never think about.

I actually did the same this week - upgraded from the Nest 5 mesh (previous gen). I spent hours and days working with tech support and couldn’t determine the source for my bandwidth issues. I even have 4 extenders in addition to the modem. Well, I finally gave up and purchased the Nest Wifi Pro 3 pack. Now, the internet is back in all its glory!

Just by logging into majority of your ISP provided modem's you can change them to bridging mode and it turns off their wifi. Also get a wired backhaul for all the nest nodes, and you are good to go. There is nothing wrong with Orbi, eero, TP link or google mesh. They all work fine.

I'm not sure if this is the case for most Modem/Router combos, but a lot of times you can work with the ISP to change the combo unit into just a modem, disabling the wifi, and just sending the connection to your router to control the network. I did this for AT&T and I use my Wifi Router is the only network in my home.

Yo man………SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY for you! That’s been an issue for soooo long. Can’t wait to see productivity boost up.

This discussion was on point, I really needed this. Like you Judd, I have been struggling with dead zones all over my house, but I purchased the Google nest Wi-Fi pro 6E, and have never looked back. There are no more drops or areas in my house that I don’t receive service, and they were unbelievably easy to install. I have AT&T 1 GB speed and I did not need an additional router, I just turned off the AT&T Wi-Fi and used the Google nest Wi-Fi pros. Thanks for the recommendation.

I had a similar issue as well. I have the amplifi router shown in the video. Also with my ISP gave me the modem/router combo. The issue that it is was causing whats called Double NAT. This is when two routers are and the same network and they clash. This would cause my wifi and network to drop unexpectedly for no reason at random times of the day. To fix the issue I had to call my ISP and request that they put their modem/router in bridge mode. With Bridge mode on this allows the ISP modem/router to turn off it's WIfi Broadcast turning it into a bridge between the network and another router. This allowed my router to work with no issues.

It's been years and it's finally resolved! I'm glad I was here for it

I had the O.G. Google WiFi 3-pack mesh system for years. It was ok, but I was never really happy with the speed or the range. I bought the Google Nest WiFi Pro 3-pack about 3 months ago and it's been way better. Tip: When upgrading any router system, be sure to make the login and password of the new router the same as the old one that you replaced so that all of your devices automatically connect to the new system without you having to do anything. We have 54 connected devices in our house and it would suck to have to redo them all.

TP-Link Deco XE75 have been GAME CHANGING for my house. Highly recommend that setup, too.

The very first thing you should do is turn off the WiFi in the ISP's combo box. Some let you do it yourself by connecting a computer directly to it, some disable automatically when an external router is connected, but others require you to call the ISP to turn it off. Thankfully Verizon FiOS has just the modem part, so I don't have to deal with that anymore.

As others have mentioned, you can also log in to the ISP modem and turn off the wifi, which will eliminate the extra signal; Additionally, you can also use a wifi signal analyzer and see all the other networks around you, and it will tell you which channels they are on, and you can switch to a channel with the lease congestion, especially if you live in a building or condo; Another reason to dump the ISP modem/router, you can save the extra monthly hardware rental fee they charge by getting your own. I switch from Comcast to Fios and didn't have to return or get a modem or router.

I believe the only additional think I would recommend is doing the wired backhaul (connect via ethernet multiple mesh points to increase performance). Great suggestions anyhow!

Great content and delivery - thank you.

Great tips, thanks! Especially the modem only. I was thinking about this and you confirmed it...

I love this channel and the progress you and the family have made!!.. now can you do a video about Xfinity 10g and their new modem’s coming out

In my opinion...you should just go with the Nighthawk and a Unifi set up for the router / gateway. Their new Unifi Dream Router has been performing very well in my deployments. They have more of an expandable array hardware.

As a cable tech I recommend checking with your isp and making sure there’s no ingress on the lines(s) or the node. Something as a bad wall plate can cause issues for a while, maybe I’m biased but usually I don’t see a difference when customers use their own modems compared to the company’s gateways, only thing is that I wouldn’t expect them to completely cover the home especially basements, or certain corners of the home especially big homes

I just upgraded from my Nighthawk router to the Google nest pro setup, exactly like yours and man, It completely fixed my wifi issues 💯. It's amazing, the 3 node setup provides 6600 total square ft coverage, which consistently provides blazing speeds inside and outside fge home. Totally satisfied with this.

You are a great presenter...knowledgeable, cool, and understandable. Thanks for all your videos.

I recently got the Plume super pods which are fantastic. Over time they adapt to traffic and times of use and it gets faster over time. I would love it if you did a video to see if the Plume system would work in your home. They do wifi 5, wifi 6 and even 6e now. That would be good to see if it can compete with your nest wifi pro.

I’m glad you fixed that problem, cable companies equipment can cause a lot problems. I have Xfinity 1 Gigabit speeds. I have the Netgear CM2000 modem, and the Netgear Nighthawk AX8 AX6600 WiFi 6 Router. My speeds are 913.91 down, 41.82 up, ping 11.0; smooth sailing.

The Asus ax6600 is only Wifi 6. Wifi 6E brings a 6ghz band that allows the mesh to communicate among themselves with way less interference. From a modem/router provider perspective if you just disable the included Wifi you are good to go and you can use your own AP´s or Router. Happy for you that you found a definitive solution to your Wifi problems 😉

So, I was a network administrator for 10 or more years and owned my own wireless solutions company for businesses and for that home setup, mesh networks are not the way to go. Each mesh node gets like 50% or less signal and relays it to the next node., degrading it each time/node. You are just decreasing your bandwidth for each node down the line. What you want to do is get a Unifi setup from Ubiquiti. Keep the modem you have, hook it into the Unifi Dream Router, then run an ethernet cable (preferably wall-dropped) main level, upstairs and to the basement to Unifi Switch Lite 8 PoE switches and put Unifi U6 Long-Range antennas in the ceilings (3 should do it for each floor) and wire them from the switch. You should have 3 antennas upstairs, 3 on the main floor, and maybe 2 in the basement. Maybe one on the back patio and one in the garage for the Tesla. You might want to wire your game systems and computers right into ethernet as you don't want them to be wireless. It will mess with bandwidth and latency if you do. Then make 4 wifi users... one for business, one for home, one for IoT, and one for guests. If you do it like this, you will have super, super fast connectivity in all areas of your house and get full bars everywhere, even the garage and backyard.

I was having issues with our ISP's modem/router as well. It was trash, like so bad that running the microwave in the kitchen would drop the signal or causing buffering if you were in the kitchen or living room. We only had the one because our house isn't as big to need a mesh network, but I swapped out the ISP's equipment for the CM1200 and I have been smooth sailing since.

Anyone notice the whole on his sweater lol caught my eye but besides that love you guys here absolutely my number one channel to visit for tech. Just always feels like I’m with a long time friend. Such great vibes from everyone here

Should have picked up from TP-Link Deco line up! Much better than what you had shown. 6E backbone or wired backbone. And have Ethernet ports on EACH node!

I have been using my own modem and router for over ten years. I highly recommend going that route. Over that period I changed my modem and router once. The router because I wanted an upgrade and modem because I needed to upgrade for the faster speeds I had signed up for.

We used the ethernet through the power lines method. Wifi booster with ethernet port works in those poor coverage areas.

My tip that worked for me is turn off all wifi from your ISPs modem, use the wifi only on your router. Some ISPs will not allow you to use your own modem, they lock it to the modem they give you. I use an Asus AX88U(not sure if that’s accurate), turned off all wifi antennas on the ISP modem, no drops since then.

Wow I’m surprised the Orbi didn’t work for u. I plugged mine into the provider box and it worked fine . I’m still using their old Orbi RBK50. I am happy you finally finally finally got some piece of mind with you wifi.

My ISP allows me to put their cable modem router combo into bridge mode which turns off their internal router which enables me to be able to use my own router. That way they are not conflicting because you are correct. If you have their internal router enabled, you will have terrible issues. Would love to see a video with your ISPs device and see if you can turn off the internal router and do a comparison to the network you currently have with your ISP modem router combo with the internal router turned off and see if that makes a difference between the two. I am also a techie and went to school for computers and networking

Judd I wish I knew this but so glad you figured out what Matters.Good luck to you all ✌️

Dude!! You just helped me fix a year of headaches. I’ve tried everything and as soon as I set up a new modem last night I’ve had that God tier internet. That’s why you’re the man!!!

Man, you don't know how much this video just helped me. I always thought that the cable provider's modem was part of the issue...🤔

Glad you are happy about getting it fixed but did you try disabling the wifi on the cable modem? Seems like you had just many devices in the home messing with the spectrum. Additionally, these mesh systems work best running cat 5 or cat 6 to them.. using 6 mesh radios is a lot as well.

Hi I’m from South Africa and my mom just bought a farm which we live at now. This was the perfect video I needed because mobile service is not great (also 1 bar😂). But the WiFi drops an awful lot. So I’m gonna read up on these products to see if it could work and if they are available. Thank you for the tech tips as always.

That Anker microphone is great for vlogging. Having your own modem also saves money in the long run.

Would have been mind-blowing to see the before and after signal improvement as opposed to just the after. Thanks

Modem/router combinations have had poor performance for years! I’ve always went dedicated everything in my network. Glad you solved your issues. Another tip is distancing your coax cable from the power lines of your other devices. I was getting drops for months until I did this. The power cords from my tv, surround, series x, and others were causing signal interference despite the shielding already provided in a coax cable. It took me over a year of drops and swapping network devices to figure out that simple fix.

I paid for my own modem because I could cancel the rental fee. It paid for itself within a year. Then one thing led to another and now I have a UDM Pro SE and multiple unifi APs.

I had an issue with my Wi-Fi speeds not being fast enough. Countless reboots, ISP calls, and nothing. I was paying for 1gb down and 1gb up. But would only average 300-400. Then one ISP told me to check if my modem was even capable with 1gb support. So I bought a modem off of Amazon and activated it on their services and sure enough I’m constantly getting 1gb down and 1gb up. Modems aren’t future proof for speeds. But I’m happy now

I have the older google mesh wifi routers, and they have been awesome! My only complaint is that they really don't support ipv6 is any meaningful way. You can have internal ipv6 addresses for things on your local network, but cannot access anything outside your network. Probably not a deal-breaker for most people, but it's a little annoying for me.

I am honestly more surprised that your home did not have ethernet in the walls already. I figured someone with a tech focused channel would have paid someone to come run ethernet in all of the places. I used to have the 1ST Gen Google Home WIFI and I kept having issues with 4 routers in a small house. I have since gotten TP- Link Deco and it works much better.

The main problem in my area is *interference* from the neighbors Wi-Fi, because most of them have the router/modem combo from the ISP. You can ask the ISP to turn off the router part, so your device works just as a modem, it is not as fast as changing the modem but it does help (my ISP doesn’t allow me to change my modem; I did and it was working great until they blocked my home and said that I am not allowed to change my modem…). I’m going to try Nest 3rd Gen. Thanks for the video!

I've also had wifi issues from the router that Fios gave me. About a year ago I got a new ASUS router and replaced the one Fios gave me. About 2 months in, the speeds went from Gigabit to 20-80mbps at best. My ethernet directly from the modem was still getting gigabit speeds though! After a lot of issues and even getting a warranty replacement thinking it was the ASUS routers fault, I put the old router in and again I had great speeds with terrible coverage. MY SOLUTION: I connected the Fios router, turned off the WiFi on it and connected my ASUS router to the Fios router instead of the modem. My internet has never been better. I only wish Fios or ASUS support was smart enough to give me this solution because I got on the phone with both of them multiple times and no one was able to give me that answer.. I hope this comment helps someone else who had the same issue as me!

Disable wifi and switch to bridge mode on the ISP's device. Once you do that, it literally just acts like a modem. That's what I did as I also set up a mesh wifi network in my house

Modem not needed. If I'm not mistaken, the WIFI Pro Mesh setup comes with 3 modules - a main router point and 2 satellites. Just plug the ISP cable directly into the Nest Wifi main module router. Case solved.

He's got the issue of a congested Wifi radio space. The wifi before wasn't properly optimized on a channel with the least congestion. Wifi 6E fixes this issue with a dedicated backhaul connection that usually has no congestion as Wifi 6E frequencies don't have mass adoption yet.

Came to say the same, it might not have been the modem/router combo itself, but that you could have been double NAT'd and had multiple WiFi networks running. Setting the modem/router to bridge mode and turning off it's WiFi radio(s) might have fixed it for you.

I like mesh networks but personally would go for a wireless AP setup if I had the budget. Completely agree on getting rid of ISP provided equipment that is so trash.

The tp link deco lineup works grate for me and it’s backwards compatible with old nodes

I had almost the exact same issue back in January. I was paying for 800+ mbps, but getting like 300. Turns out my modem was DOCSIS 3 and was maxed out. I got the Nighthawk CM1200, and finally replaced my AirPort Time Capsule with a TP-Link Deco. The router's kind of basic, though. I was thinking of building my own.

Just get Plume Superpods and use one for every 2 rooms. It’s the best mesh network. Better than every single one you just used. Instead of punching through multiple walls from far away they concentrate to every room. So you are near the access point itself closer for better performance.

That a good starting router, i found that anything above 2,000 sqft would give you issue . The port on the router is also capped at 1gigbit. The orbi and others are 2.5

I use my ISPs provided modem and the nighthawk mesh network and get close to a gig over wifi. You probably have so many things connected that cause interference.

They way I fixed this on my 3 story house was to send Ethernet cable to the 3 floors and wire the mesh system points with a small netgear 8 port switch. With this configuration you’ll get the full speed around the house.

Good vid man!

I have the same Google mesh system in my house. And it was a game changer for sure!

Omg I have to try this because I have a modem/router from Verizon and I tried to buy the Orbi mesh system and when trying to connect this, there was just to much interference. I spent 6 hours fiddling around and at the end, I went back to best buy to return it. Mesh systems do not work well with a modem/router combo. I will try this and come back for updates. For now, it waiting time. I also have 300 up/down with this combo but I need more range in this apartment.

Most modem router combos can be switched to modem only mode. It might help someone avoid shelling out for a modem unnecessarily.

I had issues in my house until I went to eufy mesh system. Much like the Google one only mine is Wi-Fi 6 not 6e. I did the same one on each floor of the house and now I can connect from everywhere in the house.

I love my Google Nest Wifi Pro as well. I went from a modem wifi combo too. I now have three router two acting as access points because their connected to the main router via wired backhual. My network is now insane. Only downside is the 1GB port and wifi 6e only hoes about 10-15 feet.

Great video, also you can have all nodes as routers instead of a router and 2 points, the all routers solution will even boost the signal more as the router’s signal is double the strength. The setup is exactly the same with the routers only solution.

Really love your videos 👍

I got the exact same setup with the 2nd gen Google routers and it was an absolute headache. I can't remember what was wrong now since it was over a year ago now, but Netgear would take hours to get to me and gave me wrong info (their techs were in another part of the world and did not seem knowledgeable) and my ISP Xfinity Comcast would not help me since I no longer had one of their own router, modem combos. This can certainly work, but if you are not tech savvy, sometimes it is simply not worth the headache. :)

I would advise to becareful when upgrading the firmware on the Nighthawk. I had a Nighthawk router and upgraded the firmware, after the upgrade I had connectivity issues as well as low speed connections as you said you were having. If you upgrade the firmware write down and backup the firmware just in case you need to downgrade.

You've earned a sub for this one🎉

Question - So if I have a Xfinity modom can I still purchase three of these google nest? Will it still work pretty good?

Should I enable the ipv6 on the nest pro in the network settings

Has anyone installed a uniquity unifi access point in addition to their mesh system? Great video UAC!

Pronounced A-Zeus for the record... were the Asus AX6600 tried with the new modem to see if they will offer the same results? awesome content... thanks a million

Excellent to see you’ve ‘finally‘ fixed your WiFi woes. I know they’ve been harassing you for a while now. I did wonder if the new Google WiFi Pro would help you. Currently I have the Eero Pro 6 but I may try the Google WiFi Pro as it has better features without having to pay a monthly cost for them.

Honestly, Yes it is in most cases cheaper to actually buy your own router and mesh network. I actually liked the eero before the Amazon acquisition. Your provider and network package is also very important to get correct.

Did you try sending the signal through the power lines? Also about the mobile. Call your company and ask them to send you a range extender. Might get it for free.

Huawei AX3(wifi6) you can buy 3 for around 75EU UTP between them and you got some speed and good coverage(turn the WiFi of your modemrouter off) You can turn any router in bridge settings

have you thought about the ubiquiti access points and a dream machine pro/se it will have all the ethernet ports you would need only its costly and takes a bit to setup

Is putting your ISP supplied modem/router combo in bridge mode and getting a mesh router okay or is a modem/router combo not a good idea all together, even in bridge mode?

Dude turning on Bridge mode on your Modem Router combo solves most if not all of the problems you face with using an ISP modem router combo with Third Party routers. Also, I would look into adding nest WiFi routers as your points using ethernet and not wireless. Will increase your speeds in those areas drastically. If you use Cat6 cables you can potentially have the same speeds on your Router points as the main router. (Like 600 mbps instead of only 160 mbps) Significantly less interference on the back hall as well because it's wired not wireless between all three points. Meaning connection and controlling things on your local network will be significantly quicker as well! Another bonus of using the Nest WiFi pro router as a point is that the WiFi radios are better than the point.

Good video but you could have place the ISP modem/router into bridge mode which usually disables the wifi but if it didn’t, you can disable it manually.

Been setting up wifi and fixing wifi in homes for years, always always always first thing i do is disable or replace cable company router with Motorola and always fixes the problems.

I bought an expensive nighthawk and the speeds were lower than my providers modem. Plus you need to set up and pay for different security or something. It was a mess. I switched back.

Can confirm, changing your combined modem/router to a dedicated router, and the Nighthawk CM1200 gives VERY consistent uploads and download speeds

Hi Happy to discover your channel ❤ I have more than 65 connected devices In my home can you tel me what’s the best router ? Sorry for my english😅 cuz am from 🇲🇦 morocco africa

It's pretty standard to use your own router with your ISP's modem in the UK

I’d encourage people to set up one mesh node at a time and check the coverage first before adding more. Sometimes you can over saturate. 6 nodes is a lot!!

Great review! Question; I found the Netgear router that you’re using on Amazon and it says it no longer works with Xfinity. Is that correct? Also, do you have a website or a guide to do how you did your set up with turning off the Wi-Fi and then using the nest as your primary instead of having to Wi-Fi signal logins? Thank you !!!

Hi You can do so much more with the Nest wifi, ypu can creat groups of devices to make them disconnect the internet at scheduled times. You can prioritize the network useability toany device connected right now. And more.

Took you this long to figure out to not use their crap gateway 😂. I have 2 gig fiber straight cat6 from the ONT no modem needed. Orbi pulling crazy fast speeds and range for me. Hope you can get fiber in your area soon cause that coax sucks.

Have you tried TP Link's Deco WiFi Mesh system? It's incredible

Currently have xfinity, so get the same setup or what’s the process on getting better wifi

yeap just because of this video, I'm gonna try this mesh system as I am looking for one