This Framework Changed How I Write Code

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Marko

Marko

17 днів тому

Hey guys, in this video I'd like to discuss how one small frontend framework changed the way I write code and think about building products as a backend engineer.
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 176
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey guys, checkout my free window manager and keyboard cleaning app, we are so close to 10k active users! 😃 links.withmarko.com/one-menu
@rajanhossain9250
@rajanhossain9250 15 днів тому
Being able to code without looking up, is a precious feeling. I mostly code on pure backends without any UI at all, and I go weeks without searching anything. It just feels so good.
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Exactly! So underrated, but it’s an amazing feeling 👍
@chaoswithrules
@chaoswithrules 15 днів тому
man I'm jealous
@rajanhossain9250
@rajanhossain9250 14 днів тому
@@chaoswithrules Well, when you are constantly searching for things, that also means you are up to date with latest tech, which is an obvious disadvantage for me.
@chaoswithrules
@chaoswithrules 14 днів тому
@@rajanhossain9250 I remember when was coding with C I was coding for weeks without visiting google
@plaintext7288
@plaintext7288 2 дні тому
@@rajanhossain9250 it might also depend on what ecosystem you're in - in Js things move around and change and it takes quite some time to become familliar enough with your stack While when programming in Go or C++, the tools are all there and not much changes over time and the complexity is not hidden in the stack but in the code itself
@djidji233
@djidji233 10 днів тому
Very valuable info! Will check it out for sure! As a backend dev, wanting to build stuff and trying to start some solopreneur part time career, I cant wait to try it out!
@zeeeeeeeek
@zeeeeeeeek 15 днів тому
Awesome information! I've also had this experience when I stumbled on solid JS. No rerendering and over-engineering needed but I still have the JSX and other dx like react so it was a smooth transition.
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Yes, I really like solid too, it's got a lot of potential.
@9r1nc3w1ll
@9r1nc3w1ll 6 днів тому
A senior colleague introduced me to Mithril in 2018 and I loved it. I'll definitely use it again. Thanks for making this video.
@EduardoHenrique-nd1ro
@EduardoHenrique-nd1ro 15 днів тому
Thanks for sharing another amazing video, Marko! Great weekend ahead! Cheers from Brazil!
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey thanks Eduardo!! Same for you 😃🇧🇷
@bastianbecker6036
@bastianbecker6036 15 днів тому
really cool that u reached 200k keep it up 🎉
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Thank you my friend 😊
@bombardo2489
@bombardo2489 4 дні тому
Man i never seen anyone YAAAPPP this much goddamn
@withmarko
@withmarko 3 дні тому
Haha, why so?
@shalunu
@shalunu 8 годин тому
Lollll, man clicked on a youtube vid expecting pictures, you're good Marko, this kid is just something else
@andreichenchik5994
@andreichenchik5994 15 днів тому
Nice one! Also SwiftUI has nice approach in recent Observation release: view will update only if it’s accessing changed part of the state object. So it’s even optimized for free for you.
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey thanks! :) I will have to look into the latest release, it sounds quite interesting, thanks!
@xVinoz
@xVinoz 12 днів тому
Once u have tasted SwiftUI theres no comeback to react. I still like UIKit more lol but in a few years that will change
@jjfleagle
@jjfleagle 15 днів тому
Love your videos Marko!
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Thank you 😊🙏
@jjfleagle
@jjfleagle 15 днів тому
@@withmarko Thank you!
@jugmilic2096
@jugmilic2096 14 днів тому
Hvala za video! Samo nastavi❤
@allestercorton9085
@allestercorton9085 15 днів тому
I been waiting for this.
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey, thank you 😊🙏
@eclipse.241
@eclipse.241 13 днів тому
Really informative. Good job ☺
@ago7371
@ago7371 9 днів тому
Hey Marko, what laptop bag do you use?
@abraaocarvalho2923
@abraaocarvalho2923 13 днів тому
Ruby on Rails is wonderful ❤
@aminebensalah-bg4zi
@aminebensalah-bg4zi 12 днів тому
Thanks Marko for your awesome channel, what’s the name of the coffee where you did your video ?
@lazarkap
@lazarkap 15 днів тому
Mithril sounds really cool and developer friendly 👀
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Yeah it’s cool in the way it doesn’t give a 2 cents about what other frameworks do 😃
@shibagamedev
@shibagamedev 15 днів тому
New Marko upload!
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Yay, thanks for the comment 😊
@naoladugna4667
@naoladugna4667 15 днів тому
Love your video, it's been 2 weeks since you posted a video, i been waiting....
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey thanks 🙏
@Sushi-wv1vb
@Sushi-wv1vb 15 днів тому
Lets go its been 2 weeks!!!! Cant wait to code and watch this and definetly be super productive😁😁🤣🤣
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey thank you, yes I’ve been a bit busy, but will be posting more frequently moving forward 😃
@user-zy9kd9lv5y
@user-zy9kd9lv5y 14 днів тому
hello marco I would like to join the Kahoot! campaign you are working on. What do I need to do to get a job here? I will wait your answer
@JulianHarris
@JulianHarris День тому
I love the idea! But I hesitate because it’s still working on the outdated notion of a virtual DOM which in 2024 is redundant. It’d be amazing to see a mithrill with no virtual DOM don’t you think?
@Amit-hb9ex
@Amit-hb9ex 15 днів тому
Love your videos ❤ btw which mouse your are using?
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey thanks! 😊 This is the MX Master 3s, highly recommend 👍
@TheSqnkov
@TheSqnkov 14 днів тому
On a meta-level, yes, but for the actual production adoption, React is the stuff we are stuck with. Love aker brygge, love the videos, keep them coming.
@knightsarai9841
@knightsarai9841 15 днів тому
Update on browser's event is how Angular works using ZoneJS
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey thanks for the info, I didn’t know this 👍👍
@user-uw4ki1tb9v
@user-uw4ki1tb9v 13 днів тому
Hey What kind of program u use bro ?
@9r1nc3w1ll
@9r1nc3w1ll 6 днів тому
Please how is the TS support today? Can you make a video about that. I'll really appreciate it.
@sherlokesh
@sherlokesh 11 днів тому
Is really a good college matters for to become coder. Like u!!!😮
@petrzurek5713
@petrzurek5713 14 днів тому
What backpack is that?
@devopsnoob2614
@devopsnoob2614 10 годин тому
I loved mithril ! though I merely code for frontend.
@alex1431999
@alex1431999 14 днів тому
I thought this was gonna be about HTMX :D
@kingsimondx-gc7oh
@kingsimondx-gc7oh 15 днів тому
Hi Marko Could you already have received a new laptop from your employer if you needed one, or do you have to keep the Mac for a certain period of time? And secondly, were you able to choose your laptop freely, or do you have to use this specific MacBook?
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey I think the official policy is you can ask for a new one every 2 years. I was able to choose my configuration which was great 👍
@kingsimondx-gc7oh
@kingsimondx-gc7oh 15 днів тому
@@withmarko so that means you get a new one soon because yours is already 2 years old , right ?
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Potentially yes, but I will probably wait for m4 to come out and some reviews before I decide. I honestly don’t need a new one 😁
@kingsimondx-gc7oh
@kingsimondx-gc7oh 15 днів тому
@@withmarko ok, thank you Marko. Have a great day😃
@scarymojo5809
@scarymojo5809 2 дні тому
If you interested in some valuable information thats sightly different, I highly recommend the video titled "Be An Engineer, Not A Frameworker | Prime Reacts"
@webcoderph
@webcoderph 15 днів тому
Woah finally 🎉 🧑🏻‍💻👌
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Busy days being a dad 😁
@webcoderph
@webcoderph 15 днів тому
@@withmarko yeah, no worries. 👌
@badeye22
@badeye22 15 днів тому
Which frontend framework should I choose to learn now?
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey if you are looking for a job, I’d recommend taking a look at react 👍
@francescochimenti7041
@francescochimenti7041 15 днів тому
Hello there! excellent video. Please provide a link to the video I viewed a few weeks ago so I may see it again. It shows the MX Master 3S setup. ty
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey not sure which video you are referring to exactly?
@francescochimenti7041
@francescochimenti7041 14 днів тому
@@withmarko the video where u show the mx master 3s settings
@randguy696
@randguy696 15 днів тому
I see nowadays markojs and lit gets more popularity. and this systems gets promises better performance, smaller loading time and request counts. What s you think about for these?
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey it looks very interesting today, and also a bit different from what I remember a few years ago. Never tried it, even though it has a great name :D
@abdulhannan8129
@abdulhannan8129 15 днів тому
Hello sir. Sir I am not good at maths so can I learn and practice dsa and actually become good at it??
@toothless.tarantula
@toothless.tarantula 15 днів тому
Interesting.
@cgfit5182
@cgfit5182 9 днів тому
What about your thoughts on HTMX?
@Fodela
@Fodela 15 днів тому
Great content, I'm hooked 😍. It's just that I now have Stockholm syndrome⛓💝. State management tortured me for a so long that I dedicated a lot of time getting good at it. Now it feels good❣ knowing that I can easily handle👑 what most people struggle with.
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey thanks! :) Yes state management can sometimes feel that way, totally agree! But I'm happy you were able to get great at it, and now it's a breeze. It must feel amazing :)
@Ariprw
@Ariprw 15 днів тому
🙌🏻🔥🙌🏻
@user-ho4bk5hu1z
@user-ho4bk5hu1z 11 днів тому
what mac?
@2rx_bni
@2rx_bni 2 дні тому
Speaking of Discord if you're in the US, which I know can't be ONLY me, please opt out of arbitration before the deadline. No Text to Speech has an instruction video. Super annoyed with them for doing this. I love discord but this may be why I cancel Nitro.
@Leonhart_93
@Leonhart_93 5 днів тому
"It accomplishes 80% of what other frameworks do with 20% of the code". Press X to doubt, as about 40% of all the frontend code ends up being the HTML layout, and I doubt a framework that doesn't use JSX can output the same HTML tags in fewer lines of code. But I know that React hooks are so needlessly verbose and tend to bloat the code a lot, which is why I am still using class components to this day.
@withmarko
@withmarko 3 дні тому
Press X to doubt, JSX has way more characters than hyperscript for the same HTML
@Leonhart_93
@Leonhart_93 3 дні тому
@@withmarko I was not joking, I was being quite literal. JSX can express the name of a piece of HTML with just a string literal and < />. There is no logical way to get shorter than that. The functionality can be literally anything, I can do it even in plain JS, but the layout has to be its it's natural HTML form for it to not be a mess. And if I can't do JSX I will just put it in old fashion .html files. There is no way to do the complex UIs of today and being only 3 layers deep, and the last thing I want to do is do a chain of many nested function calls like I am writing Lisp or something...
@05jessejames
@05jessejames 15 днів тому
How can I even think about working on my side project when Marko post?!
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey, thanks for the comment! 😃😃 what’s your side project?
@05jessejames
@05jessejames 15 днів тому
You’re welcome 😄 It’s a cryptocurrency tracker. I have finished the front end work (for the most part), using react. I still need to create a login page, and figure out the backend part of having a profile and saving certain coins to a “watch list.” It’s my first “big” project! It’s been fun and I’ve learn a lot! Thanks for asking 🤗
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey that sounds like a proper project, very cool! Good luck, make sure to share some links when it's done! :)
@stephenreaves3205
@stephenreaves3205 3 дні тому
ngl, I thought this was going to be about framework laptops
@ApurvoPal
@ApurvoPal 14 днів тому
Which app u used to lock your keyboard
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey I made this app it’s free, you can get it at withmarko.com/one-menu
@ApurvoPal
@ApurvoPal 14 днів тому
@@withmarko thanks definitely gonna check out
@ahmedAltariqi
@ahmedAltariqi 15 днів тому
I finished the video and i still don't know what's the framework lol I mean i get the essence of your story however I'm curious!
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey sorry, I should have mentioned it more clearly. The framework is mithril.js.org
@BrandonMekombo
@BrandonMekombo 15 днів тому
Hey Marko i need some help, I’m a 15 year old looking to become a software engineer but I’ve been doubting if I should cause of the new AI’s fast development like Devin. So I don’t know if it’s still okay to get a career in the future or not 😢
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey that's a great question! Here's how I look at it. People who are actually benefiting the most at the moment from AI are actually software engineers. All those myths that it's replacing devs is just marketing talk. One day yes it will replace engineers, but my take is that when that happens it will be so close to general intelligence, that at that point all bets are off. The whole economy will not make any sense at all. But who knows if / when that will happen. In the meantime it's very clear software engineers are actually profiting from AI.
@BrandonMekombo
@BrandonMekombo 14 днів тому
@@withmarko Yea thanks but you haven't answered if I should continue in this career path or not?
@nabinkawan9298
@nabinkawan9298 15 днів тому
Hey Marko, loved your old videos, they were detailed and insightful. Now they are less detaild and it feels like it is fulfilling content only. Could you bring back some depth? Your videos still help me focus though! 😊
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey thanks for the feedback. What would you like me to cover in the next video more specifically, I'll try to provide more in-depth info? :)
@nabinkawan9298
@nabinkawan9298 14 днів тому
@@withmarko Thanks fr the reply. I really enjoy watching the way you explain the problems and solve it. If you can include coding part, it would be great.
@chris_kouts
@chris_kouts 4 дні тому
** Solid JS has left the chat ** 💀💀
@withmarko
@withmarko 3 дні тому
I like a lot of things about solid, ngl
@sitrakaforler8696
@sitrakaforler8696 6 годин тому
I mean... I still don't like JS x) I think I will try to learn RUST HOWEVER I love the name MITHRIL ! :)
@tHe0nLyNeXuS
@tHe0nLyNeXuS 12 годин тому
I am curious about whether you have tried HTMX and what you think about it.
@pmdd
@pmdd 15 днів тому
🎉🎉
@uneebbhatti1388
@uneebbhatti1388 15 днів тому
I am not able to join your discord server it says that "Link has expired" what's the reason?
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey sorry, can you try this link: discord.gg/Z6qQsSzpUe
@adivhahomavhungu6301
@adivhahomavhungu6301 14 днів тому
Hi, can I use it with Django?
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey yes, of course, it's just a frontend framework :)
@MrRajaBaja
@MrRajaBaja 15 днів тому
Did I miss it or wasn't the framework actually named at any point?
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey sorry I did mention it, but only in one sentence. It's Mithril :)
@abubakershamsi
@abubakershamsi 15 днів тому
Guys i wanna start programming there is future? Can Ai replace programers ?
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey the ai will not likely replace developers, but you should look into how to use ai to your advantage. IMHO, it’s still worth learning to code 👍
@abdullahalasad845
@abdullahalasad845 15 днів тому
Waited very long 😢
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey thank you 🙏 I promise to post more 😊
@1weiho
@1weiho 15 днів тому
@@withmarko await marko.post();
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Haha, will try to post more frequently, thanks for the nice comments guys :)
@vaibhavsharma226
@vaibhavsharma226 15 днів тому
Which framework are you talking about?
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey it’s Mithril link in description 👍
@gourabsarker9552
@gourabsarker9552 15 днів тому
Sir how many years of experience do you have as a software engineer? Plz reply. Thanks a lot.
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey I have 12 years total, but 8 years professionally 👍
@harshvachhani2748
@harshvachhani2748 15 днів тому
hey Marko why you delete your office video's and " you Day in The Life of a Software Engineer " video.? i loved your video, I must have watched all the videos 20-25 times. please re-published your office word videos. thank you. lots of love.
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey thank you for supporting my channel 🙏 Kahoot no longer allows those videos, so I had to remove them 😔
@JaegerPy
@JaegerPy 15 днів тому
Heyo Marko!
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey 😃
@JaegerPy
@JaegerPy 15 днів тому
@@withmarko you alright mate? 😀
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey doing well, thanks! :) Just busy these last few weeks, hbu? :)
@JaegerPy
@JaegerPy 14 днів тому
@@withmarko just been trying out the idea you gave me about vlogging and stuff! Also just keeping busy How's being a parent 😅
@vorant94
@vorant94 14 днів тому
I don’t think people nowadays appreciate “feature-complete” stamp as they really should be. And all of this because of SaaS mindset built by all the tech companies
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
100%
@gourabsarker9552
@gourabsarker9552 15 днів тому
Sir do you earn 900k Norwegian Kroners a year as a software engineer in Norway? Plz reply. Thanks a lot.
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey I don’t, closer to 800 🤓
@AungBaw
@AungBaw 13 днів тому
Let me know your thoughts on HTMX.
@JORDAN7514
@JORDAN7514 15 днів тому
Hello Marko, I hope you are well. One question, why did you delete the videos on Kahoot? They were my favorites :c
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey I had to, Kahoot changed policies on filming
@JORDAN7514
@JORDAN7514 15 днів тому
@@withmarko Oh, so bad :c
@user-nm2wc1tt9u
@user-nm2wc1tt9u 15 днів тому
name of the framework?
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey sorry, should have made it more clear in the video, it's mithril.js.org
@user-nm2wc1tt9u
@user-nm2wc1tt9u 14 днів тому
@@withmarko will check it out thanks a lot
@luisdanielmesa
@luisdanielmesa 14 днів тому
People who use frameworks are doomed to fail.
@user-ti6zw5jf8i
@user-ti6zw5jf8i 15 днів тому
hi Marko, why did you delete your first videos, and also, why did you leave that company? привет марко, а зачем ты удалил свои первые видео , а ещё , почему ты ушел из той компании?
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey I had to delete them because the company policy was changed... :(
@user-ti6zw5jf8i
@user-ti6zw5jf8i 13 днів тому
@@withmarko This is bad(
@conundrum2u
@conundrum2u 12 днів тому
Back in the day, we knew that RoR was like gilding a turd. If you'd worked with any kind of mature framework you knew how dogshit Ruby was. It has ALWAYS been slow compared to other more established languages and frameworks. Too many people are attached to Ruby because of nostalgia. They used it in college. Or it's all they knew. Update on event is fine for small projects, but if you've got something that's updating the data regularly, bursts of DOM updates like with event based data updates can lead to UI jank. By all means, use what you feel works best for you, but there's reasons why people ultimately settle on the same patterns over and over again. You can only skin a cat so many ways and some ways are just the most efficient.
@mohammadalimalik3841
@mohammadalimalik3841 15 днів тому
Next video "I made a paper laptop"
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Haha, why? 😄
@mohammadalimalik3841
@mohammadalimalik3841 15 днів тому
@@withmarko More people get more interested and most likely I just got a notification and before I watch the whole thing 400 people are going to comment, so I need to be first without saying 'first', and you see my comment, haha.
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hahaha, it worked 😃
@mohammadalimalik3841
@mohammadalimalik3841 15 днів тому
@@withmarko Sure did hahaha.
@GmailNexus
@GmailNexus 14 днів тому
this coffee looks 😟
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
It's tea :D
@GmailNexus
@GmailNexus 14 днів тому
@@withmarko Oh well 😃
@beastnighttv
@beastnighttv 14 днів тому
hello markooooo
@alexandrodisla6285
@alexandrodisla6285 15 днів тому
Marko was out for blood. LMAO (ANGULAR and REACT fanboys will respond). LOL
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Haha, just providing a different perspective :D
@nikichashadow
@nikichashadow 15 днів тому
marko please unban me from the server there has been a miss understanding
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey not sure what happened, what’s your username?
@nikichashadow
@nikichashadow 15 днів тому
@@withmarko nikichashadow
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Ok I’ll take a look what happened 👍
@nikichashadow
@nikichashadow 15 днів тому
@@withmarko did you figure it out
@nikichashadow
@nikichashadow 15 днів тому
@@withmarko did you unban me
@dev_franqqi
@dev_franqqi 15 днів тому
First❤
@withmarko
@withmarko 15 днів тому
Hey yes you are 😃🔥
@ashercohen1963
@ashercohen1963 15 годин тому
Wow, such a biased take on "anything other than the solution I found and like". Everything you said is applicable to other frameworks if you know how they work. Plus, 90% of the times you wouldn't worry about renders.
@ald890
@ald890 15 днів тому
React is performant enough, CSS is bottleneck most of the time. State changes are not the problem, this problem solves VDOM. But the real problem that solves React is updating UI, and updating anything else is the solution.
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey are you referring to CSS in the form of styled components and similar, or plain CSS?
@ald890
@ald890 14 днів тому
@@withmarko you can make complex application in React, with 100x unoptimised renders without CSS and it will be very smooth, then add some css with reflows and you will have problems with caluclating elements posision etc. this kind of problem you will have in any frontend framework.
@programmingloop7
@programmingloop7 4 дні тому
5 min video and this mf doesn't get to the point
@withmarko
@withmarko 3 дні тому
What was the point you were expecting to hear, mf?
@inakisanchez2552
@inakisanchez2552 15 днів тому
i wish someday i can code without going every 30 minutes to check something..but that's juniors life. One day will be. Marko, as always, hugs from here
@inakisanchez2552
@inakisanchez2552 15 днів тому
oh and thanks for the info about mithril.. i'm tired of react
@withmarko
@withmarko 14 днів тому
Hey that's perfectly ok, you will find yourself googling less and less, although it's a bit harder with frameworks that change all the time :D
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