I’ve done the Scavi Tour. It’s breathtaking. They sent us down there with an archaeologist, there were only 7 of us.

There really should not be any controversy here. The bones under St Peter's are likely the real bones of the first Pope. The bones found in the other church are likely Peter's also. The explanation is easy. Constantine's mother, St. Helena, encouraged excavation throughout the empire. It was her doing that the birthplace of Christ was determined as well as the place of crucifixion and the tomb. It would have been easy for her to find St. Peter's tomb as certainly local Christians kept the memory alive. It is likely at least some bones were removed from the tomb when Constantine built the first St. Peter's basilica. The original altar is still there, directly under the current altar at St. Peter's basilica. It makes sense therefore that the current altar is directly above the original tomb, as Constantine would not have built St. Peter's basilica there had he not found the original tomb and put the altar directly above it.

Fascinating historical insights! The journey of the Vatican Obelisk and the mysteries surrounding St. Peter's tomb add layers to the rich history of Rome and the Vatican.

Despite an unremarkable beginning as the video progressed it began to hold my interest more and more and i am glad to say that it proved so absorbing and interesting programme,Well done.

The structures they built were so solid with phenomenal detail. There is a serious issue with modern technology that our structures today can't compare.

Very interesting, but the image of the emperor described as Constantine is actually Justinian :)

That Vatican Obelisk was originally in Karnack in Egypt but was moved to the Circus Maximus in the 1st Centry. It was then moved to the Vatican in 1587

The bones can be both in Peters basilica and in other old Churches. There is a tradition in the catholic church to embed bones and relics of saints in altars. It doesnt mean that the entire skeleton are there, just a small piece of relic will do.

Pope Urban II could have had part of the bones moved to another church to assure he had an insurance policy against any usurper. That the terra cotta jar also has the names of the next three popes also leads me to believe this may have been in his mind.

Interesting documentary. One little thing though: when Emperor Constantine is mentioned, Emperor Justinian is actually shown...

I thought that it is Good Friday I would learn something more about the Popes and how it works. Happy Easter!

The leaps are indeed breathtaking.

"CHRISTIANISM" really? Makes me seriously question the accuracy of the rest of the programme - from the very first sentence.

St Thomas Cathedral Basilica Chennai Indi s also built on Relics of St Thomas called as Patron saint of India.. St Thomas bones preserved in 4 churches in south India ,St Thomas came to India in 52 Ad and was martyred in 72 AD

The presence of the supposed relics of St. Peter in 2 churches-- in the Vatican and in a chapel some kilometers away-- does not necessarily question the authenticity of the one in the Vatican. It has been the custom of the Church to distribute fragments of the bones of various saints. It has also been a custom of the Church to bury relics of the saints and martyrs in the altar.

Helen Bond mentions @29:17 that there is complete silence of the bible if Peter was in rome. But there is, in the greeting at the end of the first epistle: “ The Church here in Babylon, united with you by God’s election, sends you her greeting, and so does my son, Mark” (1 Pet. 5:13, Knox). Babylon is a code word for Rome. It is used that way multiple times in works like the Sibylline Oracles (5:159f), the Apocalypse of Baruch (2:1), and 4 Esdras (3:1). Eusebius Pamphilius, in The Chronicle, composed about A.D. 303, noted that “It is said that Peter’s first epistle, in which he makes mention of Mark, was composed at Rome itself; and that he himself indicates this, referring to the city figuratively as Babylon.” Then there’s early historical reference - Tertullian, in The Demurrer Against the Heretics (A.D. 200), noted of Rome, “How happy is that church . . . where Peter endured a passion like that of the Lord, where Paul was crowned in a death like John’s [referring to John the Baptist, both he and Paul being beheaded].” Protestants admit Paul died in Rome, so the implication from Tertullian is that Peter also must have been there. In the same book, Tertullian wrote that “this is the way in which the apostolic churches transmit their lists: like the church of the Smyrnaeans, which records that Polycarp was placed there by John; like the church of the Romans, where Clement was ordained by Peter.” This Clement, known as Clement of Rome, later would be the fourth pope. Clement wrote his Letter to the Corinthians perhaps before the year 70, just a few years after Peter and Paul were killed; in it he made reference to Peter ending his life where Paul ended his.

This documentary is actually rather like a tabloid newspaper. Many of the comments are contrived to give sensational conclusions that are inaccurate and cast doubt on the authenticity of some of their other documentaries. Peter didn't betray Jesus, he denied knowing him, that was all. HIs humanity was shown as his courage let him down when he was afraid. Much of the tradition isn't essential to the integrity of the Catholic church as is often the case.

One apocryphal story of St. Peter in Rome was whenever he heard a rooster crowing in the distance, it would cause him to pause and grow reflective. I always loved that story. It makes the city of Rome seem more real. I like to think it is a true memory of the real man that has survived the millennia, although it could have easily taken place in Antioch.

I did not know before that Vircengentorix of Arverni was also imprisoned for 6 years there by emperor Julius Caesar, just as Saint Peter and Saint Paul then later were placed there by emperor Nero.

Thanks for the information❤

Although this is an interesting documentary, it's a ridiculous debate. Even if you had a box from the right time period saying "Peter, the First Pope" it would be impossible to determine whose bones were inside. Today you can find the names of celebrities scrawled all over different objects but that doesn't mean those objects belong to those celebrities (or are even vaguely connected to them - they can just be a fan's handwriting). Peter was a huge celebrity in antiquity, and a huge fixation of a hyper-religious population, so there's no telling what was done with his stuff or his body. He could have even been buried in a different country and an early Christian raided his grave, stole his bones and bought them to Rome to start a new church with. For all we know, all of his stuff was taken and buried with other people as sacred objects. More, importantly, archeologists should all know this is a pointless discussion. Archeology can only ascertain the traces of what still physically exists. Things like physiology and pathology of a person can leave traces in their bones (and even traces of how they lived), but not their identity - you can only say there's supporting evidence of someone who fits certain parameters. Furthermore, lots of evidence has been lost or destroyed over the years for many different reasons, so you can't say that absence of evidence is evidence of absence, either. Saying "we're not 100% sure whatsisname was here 2000 years ago" like that means anything is stupid too, because you can never be sure about someone's whereabouts that long ago. Even records of where someone died very publicly with a whole crowd watching (like Caesar's assassination or Jesus's crucifixion) could themselves have been fabricated at the time or later, so you can only say "our sources say this". I mean, seriously. In any case, religion of any kind is all about faith, so don't start complaining now about wanting "evidence" to back it up.

"Jesus left the synagogue and went to Simon’s house. Simon’s mother-in-law was very sick. She had a high fever. They asked Jesus to do something to help her. 39 He stood very close to her and ordered the sickness to go away. The sickness left her, and she got up and began serving them. Luke 4:38-40

When they were talking about Constantine @ 41:00, isn't that a mosaic of Justinian I?

Peter was married but was never a pope. He would be greatly disappointed to hear of this.

Only one problem... Peter was not in Rome, much less Italy. He was to witness to the Jews in Jerusalem and the surrounding areas. Acts 18:2 And he found a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, *recently come from Italy* with his wife Priscilla, because *Claudius had commanded all the Jews to leave Rome.* And he went to see them,

St peter,pray for us❤

There's a whole lot of people with their heads up their keesters in this video. Folks it doesn't make one iota of difference how or where Peter died or where he was entombed. What matters isn't how Peter died it's how he lived. Merry Christmas

This documentary ended strangely. It seems like it was cutoff in the way that I would expect a Part 2 to follow.

We don't need any such relics etc. for power and glory but only Jesus Christ is Power & of all glory over all! PRAISE THE LORD!

Historical evidence for Peter being a pope, or ever even visited Rome, is pretty sparse. He's tradition's first pope, not history's.

"I don't know what part of the body they belonged to, but they were clearly human." Possibly the best one sentence example of the willing blindness and absolute idiocy required to believe in the absurd BS of organized religions I have ever heard. Amazing.

Oh, you are so transparent. Please care of your own, not ours. Peace be with you🙏

From the death of Saint Peter a lot of children were called Peter, which in ancient Greek meant "Tomb Stone" I lived and studied for 8 years in Greece and my teacher of litterature was Greek 100% and she had also qualifications for ancient greek and she tought us that in the old greek version of the Bible and Gospels, the world that we translate as Peter or Rock is not any rock, is "grave rock" grave stone". She was a truly outstanding teacher and I am sure that she tought us the right thing because she was Orthodox and the topic of the lesson was the correct translation of the Bible, and eventually the shism between catholic and orthodox church and books that were written about it at the time and the historical context.

The Roman Empire didn’t fall it just turned into the Catholic Church . Every pope might as well be an Emperor

Winston, is that you narrating Bible docs from the Continental Hotel???

I wrote a paper on this very subject in college. I found it very, very difficult to find evidence of any kind.

Pope John 23rd came after Pius Xll not Paul 6th

Has this been translated using Google Translate? Christianism is not the same as Christianity (I am sure the Pope would be surprised to find that he is the head of Christianism), and there is a difference between Martyr and Martyrdom. Really surprising in a professionally produced piece.

Why would a small container with shards of the bones of St Peter mean that the tomb under the Vatican didn’t contain St Peter’s bones? Don’t these people know that it is the norm for the Catholic Church to take small pieces of the bones of Saints and place them in churches all over the world? And yet these saints also have permanent tombs that contain their remains.

wait.. why are these religious scholars not aware that judgement and forgiveness can ONLY be granted from the creator? The Assignment to Judge (2 Corinthians 5:10)has been given to Jesus from his father. Why don't they know this its literally in the books written by Paul

reliques or bones of saints were shared in parts and given to different churches

Always found it odd the church's elevation of St Peter when it appears that St Paul had a larger role. At least Paul definitely reached Rome.

Peter was not the first Pontifex Maximus. That was Julius Caesar. The Pontiff today had his authority given to his predecessor popes by the Pontiff Constantine, just as it was prophesied in the book of Revelation.

In actual fact, Pope Paul VI's predessor was Pope John XXIII. Officially Romans stopped being called 'Latins' in the year of Rome's founding, 753 BC, though being used as an epithet for their language stuck. It's the first time I've ever heard Christianity referred to as 'Christianism'. Most dictionaries and Wikipedia prefer 'Christianity'.

My first name means "The Rock " My last name means "The Round" I'm"The Round Rock"😂

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I think he likely did go to Rome. He was caught up in the early persecutions and was crucified. They granted him the wish to be crucified upside down? Maybe on that last one. He was buried in a simple grave. The burial site was kept by the Roman christians. Eventually, after Constantine converted he memorialized Peter.

Odd, if Jesus was to walk the earth today, anyone thinks He would appreciate seeing crosses around the necks of His devotees? Was Jesus materialistic? How come the Vatican even owns its own bank? Jesus Christ was everything the Vatican is not!

yes I believe that St Peter did come to Rome, moreover I am sure that the christians that went to pray and pay homage on St Peters' tomb would not have mistaken it for a pagan tumb. And the fact that after that lots of people called their children Peter testifies to the fact that Saint Peter really did come to Rome and really was a very special person for the christians of the time. "Peter" was not a name, it was a word that meant ROCK. There are no precedents of people called "Rock". Naturally christians that were aware of the existence of an ex fisherman very poor who had came from Palestine, who was a jew, not a real roman and therefore "second class" would not have set up a shrine unless he indeed had been a special person starting from the fact that he spent years elbow to elbow with our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans used to cremate their dead. The deceased poor and the slaves were usually thrown in the rubish, there was a large area in which romans dumped anything that they wanted to throw away, including the bodies of the dead and unwanted infants. The custom of burying the dead was jewish not roman! If any the romans made urns of the ashes of the dead. Any pregnant woman who met Saint Peter and believed in his message and of the work of Jesus Christ, would have considered heresy to call her child Jesus for it was to equivail the child to God or to the son of God but would have surely considered calling her child Peter (Rock) who had had the priviledge of spending a few years elbow to elbow with Saint Peter.

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The picture of Constantine on the video showed is Justinian II. Not Constantine.

Not only he is the first pope, he is also the OG "The Rock"

Funny how (even in this very informative documentary!) Jesus is still shown as the only blue eyed blond haired person as oppose to all the black haired dark eyed people that surround him. It's like seeing a white tiger within a group of black panthers.... and most people, even today, take it as an accurate representation of Jesus.

41:21 Mosaic image, which is repeatedly referred as Emperor Constantine is in fact an image of the Justinian I, Byzantine emperor, around two hundred years after the Constantine. It's quite strange that the creators of this documentary didn't realize such a significant mistake🤨

It would be interesting to get dna if possible from the bones. Compare to skeletons from that period found in judea

There is nothing wrong with there being two reliquaries. The relics of saints have often been distributed widely. The relics in bothe these reliiquaries can easily be from the same person. There's not an entire skeleton present between both. In other words there's nothing controversial about the two reliquaries.

Pontiff was a Pagan position in Rome's pantheon. Julius Caesar had been a Pontiff. It comes from the Latin root - pon - which means bridge. The Pontiff was the "bridge" between man and the Gods. Now, when was the head of the Catholic Church titled "Pontiff" is a good question. I suspect it would have been after Constantine made Catholicism the official religion of Rome.

"Christianism" isn't a word, but the producer's use of it is instructive.

Jesus is the the answer to our salvation not some relic they try to look for in the ground for the church is a spiritual place where two all more gather togethere for the worship of christ ❤

He wasn’t the “Pope”. He was the bishop of Rome. One of several bishops at the time. It wasn’t until some time later when one of them decided they were in charge of the whole church.

Wonder how long before Ancient Aliens will say Peter was an ET?

Why is Constantine illustrated with a mosaic from Ravenna representing much later emperor Justinian? There are great representations of Constantine that could have been used...

Omg it's trying to tell you that Pluto is a observational possibly transportational station that connects to the constellation Orion

What I wonder is was Peter crucified in Rome? Nero had St Paul beheaded at the time he was in Rome the last time he was there. Was Peter in Rome at that same time or was he at a different place like Jerusalem or Antioch? It is an interesting documentary.

Well it can't be much of a secret if there's a story on UKposts about it.

Of the many things quite incorrect that the Catholic Church promotes as true is that an inverted cross is evil. When crucifixion is given as a sentence it was quite common that inverted crosses were a common sign posted or painted by they related to the criminal begging the Romans to use an inverted cross method of execution because, as St. Peter knew, it is much faster and much less agonizing than an upright crucifixion.

‘Scattered upon the Earth’

Anyone ever wonder if St. Peter or any of the apostles would welcome them if seen in person?

(12) The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you will depart from us. Who is to be our leader?" Jesus said to them, "Wherever you are, you are to go to James the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."

If anyone is looking to anything or anyone other than the person of Jesus Christ for salvation, he is not a Christian. "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the father but by me. " John 14:6

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I take more heed of the teachings of Jesus himself and the Apostle Paul.

There’s as much evidence substantiating Peter’s relics as there is for any of the other Catholic relics… absolutely none. There’s lots of interesting old objects, but zero actual provenance. Refusing any analysis is not a good look either. Catholicism is the oldest and best money making racket in the world.

Is the Jay off the inbetweeners at 15:15 aka (James Buckley) 😂

I was really curious about who the first pope was

5 Thomas asked him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going; and how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus assured them, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14 repent my brothers and sisters, only Jesus Christ saves. Maranatha Lord Jesus.

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I thought you wasn't suppose to worship idols

I now understand why one of the 10 commandments is not to create idols. It shifts the energy and power away from God's omnipresence to a mortal.

Imagination can lead people wherever!

Is it possible to trace the bloodline of Peter? Maybe there's a great-great-great grandchild that shares his DNA then test it for comparison?

God buried Moses so that the people wouldn’t worship his bones. I always thought it was odd that the church has so many bones on display.

In 1543, John Calvin wrote about fake relics in his Treatise on Relics, in which he described the state of affairs with relics in Catholic churches. Calvin says that the saints have two or three or more bodies with arms and legs, and even a few extra limbs and heads. (Wikipedia)

‘Peter was a fisherman, so he was probably sturdy’… again, this is about the level of ‘proof’ supporting the entire catholic theory that Peter ever even came to Rome, let alone that these are his bones 😂

How can the Catholic church claim Peter, an Apostle of JESUS, when both were Jewish? I have asked this before and treated either as an atheist or totally insane. To me, it's a very simple question. The Apostles and JESUS were Jewish. When did Peter become Catholic? As far as Peter denying JESUS 3 times, the Bible states Peter was forgiven by CHRIST when He arose from the Tomb, before His ascension to Heaven to sit at the right hand of GOD.

Every time they mention Emperor Constantine, they show a mosaic of Emperor Justinian..... Why???

Ultimately if we don’t read find accept understand submit recognize see the truth we are doomed? Hmm man made conditional love … fine doc although just another allotted sorts of details that thrive for an interested party of people in need of affirmation in a conscience ness of uncertain awareness ❤

Why are only shards of bones found? What happened to the rest of the bones? 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

There are up to 213 bones in a human body, it might well be that both the Vatican and the Santa Maria in Capella church have bones of St Peter.

I don't even think Peter wood of traveled to the heart of the Roman empire after witnessing the result of Jesus's crucifix and persecution of his preaching

Keeping the bones of an ancient apostel of the early church as holy relics shows me how depravend this so called church obsessed with materiality has become.

Peter gave the keys to the kingdom directly to the sheep and not to the magisterium (2 Peter 1:5-11) because he was commanded three times to feed the sheep (John 21:15-17). If you give totalitarian control to any group of men you have blinded yourself and cannot even see the scriptures that are right in front of you. "...Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them" (Acts 28:26, 27). It is your individual responsibility to know the scriptures. "And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest" (Hebrews 8:11). And Peter wrote to the sheep and said, “...add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” (2 Peter 1:5-11). In other words, Peter says that if we do what he says that this will open the doorway to heaven "abundantly." Peter has been feeding the sheep by sharing the keys to the kingdom with anyone who will do what he tells them to do in 2 Peter 1:5-11 and the entrance to the kingdom will be abundantly ministered to them. And they will never fall. So, why doesn't the church that says that they hold the keys to the kingdom teach their people to do what Peter said? Why don't they teach their people how to have the power to live holy and the power to never fall? Peter by his personal example never acted as if having the keys to the kingdom meant asserting authority over other people. For example in Acts 15 when a very important matter was to be decided before the assembly the final verdict was given by James and not by Peter (Acts 15:19). Paul gave commandments to the churches he established and not Peter (1 Corinthians 7:17 and 16:1). Also, Paul did not take his orders from Peter. In fact Paul rebuked Peter to his face. “But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed” (Galatians 2:11). ... ... ...

Peter was a rabbit! Duh! South Park did a historically factual cartoon on this matter. 😂

Interesting how this video calls it Christianism, not Christianity. What's up with that?

TL;DR. Peter was probably buried somewhere, but people don’t agree on where they’re guessing that is.

Why is this age restricted?!?

NEVER would Peter the Apostle exult himself to be a Leader of an apostate Church. Remembering also Christians were persecuted right up to Emperor Constantine 325AD when he adopted Christianity as the religion of the Empire (to unite the Empire).

Revelation 14:12 King James Version 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

I Peter 5:13 & II Peter 1:13-14 & 3:1 -- he himself says I am going to die -- both letters are looking like farewell message from Peter who were at Babylon...