That sounds like good advice.

Turning with a parting tool is a new one for me and wow that is all kinds of stupid! No tailstock use, removing the spring on the chuck key and leaving in the chuck. So many things!

Winky would not approve of these "tests", and would freak out about the excessive overhang with no center.

😂🤣😅

@@dexterm2003 could u elaborate on the chuck key? What danger does it pose to take the spring out?

@@siarsMM It can accidently be left in the chuck and turn into a new kind of shuriken on the next turning project....

Well, in addition to useing the wrong cutting tool, that appeared to be mis-centered too low, Running a little to many RPM, NO cutting fluid, Machine not anchored, no wonder the vibration- There's more, but enough for now -----

@@marksommers4868 in the first video it almost looked as if he was turning the material clockwise. I thought its supposed to run counter clockwise? someone educate me

Yes, a lot of us were expecting to see an injury. The entire time, no eye protection, yet wears gloves at times while operating machines. Opens the gear boxes and runs two of them Right next to one another. Almost runs into the Chuck while it’s spinning. For those of us that have training, watching this is painful. For those of us that don’t, well, it’s still painful. Your gut knows when something is wrong. Just because the machine is small doesn’t mean it’s a damn toy. This video needs a disclaimer when people are as stupid as him in the world. Someone with far too much disposable income is gonna buy one of those having no idea how to use it and end up seriously hurting themselves. P.S. don’t look up “de-gloved hand” - suffice it to say it’s why you don’t wear your wedding ring while operating these things. Yuck.

I was super impressed that the Proxxon cut steel at all.

He’s a dangerous fool.

I would love to See your video a ot that

I want a beginner lathe for acrylic/resin, are those suitable, I never buy cheap Chinese crap but sincerely I don't want to spend a fortune either so what do you propose?

@@belsteed6050 get a Good Chinese Lathe.. they're not all cheap crap..

@@JanBinnendijk what is a good Chinese lathe can you show me please

@@belsteed6050 do your own research, there's so many lathes out there..

he should have faced the stock first as well.

Yup and I think his cutting tool is low look at the burr it’s pushing nice little lathe but poor way to show it.

yerr and he should have ordered a4 jaw chuck Holding non machined bar in a 3 jaw is an unforgivable sin for a fitter Machinist

Sorry if these are stupid questions but i just got a bit curious. What does it mean his cutting tool is low and why is that bad? What is burr? I've heard before that a 4 jaw chuck is better than a 3 jaw, but why is a 3 jaw even worse specifically with a non machined bar?

@@mroogabooga8763when your cutting tool is too low or to hight, it vibrate and make noise and dont cut as clean as if it is centered. Dont be sorry, we are all hier to learn 👍

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that he was a complete w@@@@r I'm a retired precision engineer, God knows what he was, didn't get to the end of the vid it was too unbearable!

Happy I m not alone thinking this guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. It hurts my eyes and ears watching this video

Exactly, and I mean EXACTLY what I was thinking. No eye protection, wearing gloves while operating the machines, nearly running into the spinning Chuck. It’s irritating this guy seems to have NO formal training in machining, yet has the money to buy all this crap. I wonder if he’s still alive. Considering the time most of us have had to put in just to safely operate a lathe/mill at work/school, seeing this is painful. At the end, he turns them all on at once with exposed gears. Then it says “both lathes are professional lathe” - there was nothing professional about this video, including the lathes.

What is the use testing these lathes if the person testing has 0 knowledge on how to operate a lathe…. After a few minutes I stopped watching this ridiculous video. I have been a machinist for 30 years and I trained many students on how to use lathe’s and milling machines. And each and every one of them could operate a lathe better then the maker of this video.

Come on , he managed to open up the box

You are wasting your time, he thinks chatter is something you do on your phone, because he cannot hear anything.

No joke!

That just the basic thing....

Or you know, covering your eyes when chips are flying…

this guy is dangerous!

I got one in 1969. $150. Alas, I sold it 3 years later.

Did you ever try using a parting tool like he did?

I am fairly certain he actually only has 9 and 3/4 fingers. One of those pointers looked a little short ;)

Lol, my thoughts exactly.

Get a good one, then. I only have a vertical mill yet, but sprung for a Sherline 5410 when I shopped around, even if it cost me nearly double what the Chinesium mills cost.

YOUR !! GRANDAD !! DIDN'T !! WANT !! YOU !! LEARNING !! ABOUT !! HIS !! BAD !! AND !! DIRTY !! HABITS !! HE ! HAD !! THERE !!

@@davidwillard7334 i wasn't old enough to learn as he died when i was young

@@darrentinman6994 And your dad ! Didn't ! Do ! His Dad's ! Work !??

I was never scared more while watching a vid on youtube

Just That THERE ! Are !.NO ! BOLTS ! NEEDED !! TOO !!

It is called "parting and grooving tool" for a reason. Welcome to 21st century!

Amen!

@@davidwillard7334 dude are you typing comments on here while actively having a stroke?

@@ajhproductions2347 Are you Having ! A Stroke !??

По-моему советский токарный станок "Универсал 2" - очень лучше всех этих четырех!

I'm a beginner, would you care to elaborate why this is bad?

@@mroogabooga8763 You can break things.

so very true

This doesn't know what he is doing.

Even if No ! Bolts are used Either !!

a wood plate will be fine, as long as it's well supported.. Bolt down the machine

Most are on amazon just type in (small metal lathe)

Согласен, точить сталь на таких оборотах, да ещё с таким вылетом заготовки, смелые ребята )

I hear ya buddy. I love that people make videos like these, but some scare me shitless. Using a cutoff bit to take a 1mm cut on power feed of what looks like mild steel rod at a 5-6x extension unsupported had me sweating...

Can't be a p**** all your life, aha. I'm low-key with you though

My department used VTL ABLE to hold 25ft bull gear

And it's perfectly OK to spin the machine up with an empty chuck as well :-)

Don’t forget the numerous safety concerns he happily overlooked!

@@Bristoll170 that empty chuck story is an old myth. Just BS. Forget it.

@@jpsholland My apologies for my comment. I should have said "Not best practice" It is not unsafe, just not recommended.

If Your ! His ! Lad ! You !! Must !! Be !! Quite !! A !! Stingy !! Old ! Man !!

Honestly you're better off getting a second hand Myford or other classic brand lathe on Ebay. For a similar price you'd get a higher capacity, better rigidity and your lad would learn a lot about lathe mechanics from cleaning it up. Course you'd have to do your research for that though, can't buy an abused one by mistake.

Please don’t emulate anything this man does in this video, there are so many things he misses in terms of general safety I was expecting him to injure himself on camera.

Axminster Powertools sell the Proxon.As someone mentioned you could get a decent second hand lathe , but no sure if your dad would appreciate a second hand one .

Proxxon is from germany, so probably, just have to pay a bunch of taxws cause brexxit

One MILLION DOLLARS !!

Самая понятная информация!

i agree 100%, being smaller lathes thetre obviously for smaller fiddly work and the smaller and more fragile the peice, the more ya need a live centre due to high speeds of lower diameter jobs.

И резец похоже только отрезной.

EXACTLY!

Can you give me a ride to the sales center?

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@@JamesSimmons-gv4ow That's what both hands are for. "Say hello to my little friends -- Lighting and Thunder !!!"

Technique in the hands of a savage. 😀

What a dumbass., that is what this video shows. A lathe is a very dangerous machine in the hands of a untrained, underskilled cave man who has not the slightest knowledge about metalworking machines. If I did this during my training, my teacher surely send me away to study the books again, to show me how to properly use a parting tool. It took me 4 years to learn everything what is to know how to use a lathe and what you can make with this machine. Don't give this guy any credit.

So you make fair points, but look at it from the other point of view - not everyone is a machinist by trade. Perhaps rather than just throwing shade from a position of privilege, we could instead make positive suggestions so that at least people who do watch this video know how to be safe. The fact is, not everyone needs to know *everything* about using a lathe (some people just want to make the occasional bushing or whatever), and people *are* going to buy them, regardless whether you think they should. If there are 10 "golden rules" for using a lathe (tie back any loose hair/clothes, never run without stock in the chuck, learn which tools are for which task, etc), offer those from your experiences instead.

@@neilbarnwell my point is that, this video was presented by an obvious novice with no knowledge whatsoever of this craft. Using his lack of skills in the subject to “suggest” comparisons is ridiculous, as anyone with the basic skills of this trade would have been using the correct tools for the job. As for privilege, what the hell is that all about?

I was impressed by the length of stock and the big tool overhang and no chatter, but they are now made in China, I doubt the new ones could do this.

Все в чем то лажаются. Только одни это показывают, а другие только критикуют.

Я купил шо хочу как хочу так и ворочу. А ты молчи и завидуй.

@Томаш Вікторович Лютий Сам роби, я вже на на пенсії 12 років. Хоббі займатися буду. А ти мовчки заздри. Бо не маєш можливості таке приладів для себе придбати.

Согласен. Станки для не рукожопых!

i just asked why is spring on chuck key

It's for safety! The key won't stay in the chuck because of the spring and accidently injure the user when he/she turns the machine on. It could fly off with a respectable force.

HE ! KNEW ! WHAT ! HE ! WAS ! DOING !!

Nah... just parting with the top layers... :-) :-)

You’re dangerous and should never be allowed near any machine tools.

@@G58 he shouldn't get in his hands even a metal file.

Bhi a kitna wat

wrong chisel

how that groove chisel is used, that seriously blows my mind

Terencef At a price anyone can afford.

@@lenroddis5933 b. Very true. I bought the basic 90e at the ME exhibition at a promo price around £200 about 50 years ago and added extras when I could.but I could not justify the price now, but it performs now as it did when I bought it.

@@tigerteff015 Mine's a 90ME about the same age as yours, bought on eBay a couple of years ago. I upgraded the spindle to the current M14 by 1 because I needed a 4 jaw chuck. The spindle was expensive, not to mention the 4 jaw chuck, the 3 jaw chuck, vertical milling slide, vice, two die holders, faceplate etc. I converted the original M14 by 1.5 spindle and 3 jaw chuck into a dividing head using a 30 tooth worm gear. The old girl managed to bore a 3/4" hole through a 1.5" cube of aluminium to take phosphor bronze bushes for the spindle. It took a while. With a couple of shop made division plates, I can accurately drill the 4, 5 and 7 hole bolt circles I need for the small steam engines I build, and many more besides. Although the lead screw is well worn, It still manages accurate work. Trouble is the lead screw runs directly in the cast iron saddle and would require some expensive and risky machining by Cowells, which I can't justify. I've built a Stuart 10V and a D10 steam engine using just the lathe and milling slide. The Stuart Compound Launch I'm working on at present is a different ball game for which I bought a small, cheap Chinese mill. The lathe setup just isn't rigid enough to cope. I'd like to move onto something bigger that will turn a flywheel more than 3.5" in diameter. The mill I bought is OK, but can't hold a candle to the quality of a well worn 50 year old Cowells lathe.

But proxxon is top class.. I have several machine from them, very satisfied, quality engine, etc.

@@iokarii It certainly doesn't demonstrate that on this video. What we see here is a machine that doesn't match up to the performance of much cheaper lathes from China. I'll grant that the person demonstrating it on here is inexperienced in metal turning by his own admission but, even so, it doesn't seem to justify its £990 price tag!

@@rontocknell5400 hi, I can not proof or not exactly this lathe, I do not have personal experience.. I just have 5(?) proxxon machine (drill, etc) and I was surprised of how silent is, about power in comparison to how small are (effectivness), holding/constant rotatio speed when increase power, etc. I am satisfied with proxxon, despite of moře expensive, I buy it for long time.. Definitely exist another comparable tools, I do not dispute it.. Comparison could go moře deeply, and also depend on personál preference, what is the major work to use it for😉. Take care, best wishes.

Yes, but he still managed to nearly crash the machine

I did learn something! Mill = lathe.

Having served a four year apprenticeship in a machine shop, this video was like watching someone fold a map the wrong way: a bit toe-curling. Interesting machines for the garage, though.

@@luikausvuoon1939 Ya, there ya go!

I learned I don’t want any of these Chinese machines

None of you master machinists were born knowing how to do any of this shit. Now I'm sure you all went to trade schools and the like but this guy is just having fun. No where did I see or hear him telling anyone how to do anything. Guys like you and all your commenting buddies can kiss my ass

And has since probably sacrificed his ability to live with how unsafe he is in this video

Looking to turn some aluminum 1 1/2" rod, what higher end machine would you advise ?

@@grahamkearnon6682 12" Axelson

DON'T !! USE !! ONE !! THEN !!