Top 50 of biggest differences between jury and televoting in Eurovision 2009-2021 based on points.
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@PlatinSam2 роки тому
Unfortunately there is no song from 2013 included because the split points results jury & televoting have never been published. We only got the average placings in each voting (jury & televote).
@Frokkdot02 роки тому
Nice Video,but you did a little mistake:On Netherlands 2017 the difference between 15 and 132 is 117 and not 120.But still nice Video!
@Frokkdot02 роки тому
So Normally its 36th
@taibelke17402 роки тому
@Θόριν Δρυάσπις but it’s not in points only averages
@adastra56572 роки тому
Bro that moment when sweden was in top 3 in jury voting and only got 21 from televote
@ggoddf58892 роки тому
justice
@mackan2712 роки тому
Not a song that sticks in your head, overproduced as many swedish songs (worldwide) are. I would like us in Sweden to for once send something different.
@eurovisiontszai91252 роки тому
Dance you off was my least favourite Swedish entry so far :/ I am still mad to think how they rank higher than Estonia's epic operatic masterpiece!
@mycroftwatson64412 роки тому
@@DominikGuzowski I like your friend
@alexdelaloire87392 роки тому
@@mackan271 I kinda like every swedish entry tbh😂! I'm never disapointed even if sometime it's just a generic pop song like dance you off
@NguvuMX2 роки тому
I remember that I was really angry with those 7 points to Michal (Poland 2016) from the juries, but then I was very grateful with the 222 points from the public, one of my favorite songs of all time.
@tzoied2 роки тому
Color of Your Life and Spirit in the Sky are 2 of the most robbed songs in Eurovision history.
@kristie82452 роки тому
Agree!!!'
@DimDDG2 роки тому
Cyprus 2018
@manspetter99212 роки тому
I thought Eurovision 2021 would be polarising, and that at least two entries would be in the top 10 of this list (only Go_A made it, and Destiny was close). It turns out that the tastes of the two groups were not that divided (the juries rewarded Italy a fourth place). Until now, I never realised the juries disagreed with viewers this much on KEiiNO lol.
@zigsynx53642 роки тому
True
@ldland27212 роки тому
Too much depending on the Jury Show. The jury distribute their points at the Jury Show (and KEiiNO's camera turned into black, and everyone saw nothing.)
@aristired62522 роки тому
I mean I didn’t really like KEiiNO that much, they were good but not my favorite. For me it’s just not the type of pop that I’m into, which is totally fine. I see the appeal and had they won then I would’ve been happy for them. It’s very much a people song, however, the mix of genres (jojk, pop, edm type stuff etc) might have been too messy for specific juries as they are people in the music industries. A lot of more experimental songs do worse with the juries but good with the public. This is because the juries are generally more into traditional music or well written songs in one genre or another (hence why ballads or conventional pop tend to do well with them). The general public are more there for the entertainment, stories, traditions and new fun sounds which is why KEiiNO, Go_A etc. did quite well. Overall, they balance each other out quite nicely.
@jermuhh33592 роки тому
Also on Tamara's Proud. Both Jury winner and Televote Winner had really small scores from the otherside.
@skyscraper76642 роки тому
A reminder on how jury robbed Keiino 🥺 Jury and Televote are so unpredictable. Only rock is consistent with the televotes.
@alaskanalpaka2 роки тому
i was pretty shocked about them getting only 40 Jury points
@skyscraper76642 роки тому
@@siuniupiu they are encouraged to vote based on song and not the staging right? Also they will give another chance to perform to the participant in case of technical issue on jury performance right?
@noagaselga33452 роки тому
Rock is not consistent with the televote. Look at Finland 2014 or Georgia 2016
@gaylordbigboobs11 місяців тому
not true anymore, Germany flopped this year
@Mauriziopelo9 місяців тому
Jury always overrates a song, like Benjamin Ingrosso with "dance you off" in 2018
@GergoMarosvari2 роки тому
I am sure that almost most of us thought that Michal Szpak will finish on first place.
@astrax24262 роки тому
It would be first in term of percentage of improvement.
@adriankiedos5992 роки тому
He is basically an icon of Jury Televoting diffirence
@ggoddf58892 роки тому
trueee
@ldrdlr43182 роки тому
As places he is first yeah.
@smallblueangel2 роки тому
no i thought that il volo will be on one
@supermannnblablabla2 роки тому
Russian grannies got more televote points than Maneskin.
@ChrolliForever2 роки тому
Emberassing
@Schlesch2 роки тому
There probably wasn’t that many good songs that year like there was this year which makes for a greater distribution of points overall.
@sandstrano91072 роки тому
There were more countries voting in 2012 than in 2021 to be fair
@instantnoodles60232 роки тому
Because they were insane!
@MrDelvoye2 роки тому
Because it was iconic
@deandrake27232 роки тому
Go A is charting everyone including this one. They're just too powerful.
@sigma.mi.2 роки тому
I have to say, that, most of the times, i agree with the televoting... Yes... 😊
@geminix3652 роки тому
I mean millions of people vs the opinion of 5 X-factor rejects
As a polish fans we only can agree with televotes , jutry Never supported our songs 🎵
@RedCubUK2 роки тому
Except for Australia’s Sound of Silence. That performance and song were perfect. It just didn’t have the personal story behind it to get the televotes.
@krstev292 роки тому
As a Macedonian i know a lot of times we didn't qualify because of juries, but sometimes we really get slapped in the face because of televotes
@EuanBCFC2 роки тому
still can’t believe just how much Keiino were robbed :(
@Auristmusic2 роки тому
I notice a trend that the ones with far higher jury score tend to be straightforward vocal songs that are overall a bit blander, not sure that I like how much that is weighed in eurovision
@obama96302 роки тому
Juries tend to give points to radio friendly songs and vocal performances
@SmurfetteLumen2 роки тому
They tend to be bland songs designed to cater to the juries. Look at how many similar performances this year got highly rated by the jury.
@SmurfetteLumen2 роки тому
@@obama9630 Joke's on them this year with Go_A and Maneskin slaying the charts. Hehehe
@Qrzychu022 роки тому
Michał Szpak (Poland 2016) was the most aggrieved in my opinion
@fullstopdice2 роки тому
In this video the Juries seem to like: people with great singing voices, sung in english and less varied. While the public seems to like: nail biting songs, not sung in english and more varied.
@cupcakewithouttheicing2 роки тому
I think this video is such a good example of why we need both
@toypakat2 роки тому
Yes !!!
@temegron66952 роки тому
Nah, 75% televoting and 25% jury. Too much power on "music professionals" that are actually just expressing their own taste and of course kissing neighbours' and Sweden's ass. Just compare our (Finland) televoting and jury points from past few years. Sweden gets 12, 10 or 8 almost every time.
@cupcakewithouttheicing2 роки тому
@@temegron6695 I do like that proportion, actually! I just don't think we should fully get rid of either
@blaparty551411 місяців тому
@@temegron6695like people kissing Ukraine's ass in 2022?
@alexk.23322 роки тому
Seeing Pastora, Victoria, Patricia Kaas, O'G3NE, Norway 2015, SLOVENIA 2011 SO MANY WINNERS OF MINE
@anyasok2 роки тому
juries underrated KEiiNO so much! they deserve to be in top-3 minimum
@aburrki67322 роки тому
that song sucks lmao
@slaysxc2 роки тому
me when i lie
@ChrolliForever2 роки тому
I dont have keeino in the top 10 either. It was such a strong year
@kaW3_42 роки тому
sweden : s juries : 💚🏆🏅🥇🎖️ euro fans : 👁️👄👁️
@eurovisiontszai91252 роки тому
Juries from 2021: *Am I a Joke to you?*
@xSTATOKEx2 роки тому
Alternative name "Local jury ruins everything"
@noagaselga33452 роки тому
I just want to remind you that without the juries Moldova wouldn't even have qualified in 2013
@blaparty551411 місяців тому
They tried to save 2022 from the most controversial victory in recent history with Ukraine, deserved or not, it's fair to say that juries tried to actually be a jury that year. While most people voted with sympathy.
@depressedbroccoli87512 роки тому
the fact that Norway didn’t win in 2019 is the biggest snub in eurovision ever.
@obama96302 роки тому
Arcade deserved it so not of all time
@yomismo742 роки тому
I still don't understand why Non mi avete fatto niente didn't do better with juries
@user-ev8zd7cr4t2 роки тому
I guess the "experts" of music prefer a woman acting like a chicken than a song about world peace
@EKalinovski2 роки тому
@@user-ev8zd7cr4t televoters prefered this woman as well lol
@TheMagicAround2 роки тому
Too complicated for "professionals". The "massage" must be clear, no longer then 3 words, repeated a million times in interviews exactly. And more glitter!!! And more grimaces!!!
@noagaselga33452 роки тому
The live wasn't that good
@weiss11282 роки тому
Spirit in the sky was amazing I still listen to it and it's my most listened song from eurovision
@TJMorrison.2 роки тому
The juries screwed Saade, Lazarev and Il Volo they could've legitimately won
@aburrki67322 роки тому
Azerbaijan won the Televote in 2011. So no, Saade could not have won.
@ggoddf58892 роки тому
only il volo deserved it
@Johannes-zy6ij2 роки тому
And norway
@ChrolliForever2 роки тому
@@aburrki6732 how can that happen? Azerbaidschan os always great, but tjat year? Nope. Dontbget it. My friends are all hated that win
@DimDDG2 роки тому
@@ggoddf5889 sorry but heroes is better
@s.m.a81822 роки тому
U.K 2011 was the last entry i loved from them. They should take it seriously again.
@nialldean97912 роки тому
What about UK 2017?! That performance was awesome.
@ronweasley65852 роки тому
uk 2017 was my winner. europe ruined it
@LordEmpirex72 роки тому
Uk in 2014 was very great too.
@jujumas87082 роки тому
Theres a saying that goes around, that the UK doesn't suck once every three years. Unfortunately, the 2020 contest was cancelled, so we will have to see what the UK brings to the table in 2023.
@mycroftwatson64412 роки тому
In conclusion: jury points are usually political (predictable and the highest points are given to neighbors), while the televoters allow more diversity and show some real musical taste.
@lex-ti6sh2 роки тому
I hate the jury but honestly you can argue it’s need to exist with just pointing at the robbery of milim.
@omgheejin2 роки тому
mélovin was so robbed
@ggoddf58892 роки тому
no
@nikin5222 роки тому
Yea...
@kostaskaltsas64612 роки тому
I agree
@hannahbarley612 роки тому
Keiino bring number 1 just reminds me of how robbed they were 😭
@eurovisiontszai91252 роки тому
They once robbed by juries (ESC 2019) , and now they were robbed by televote (MGP 2021) :(
@somethung81882 роки тому
It's... frankly a basic song. Most of the time i agree with televoters but 2019 jury votes made so much more sense! At least in my opinion. Macedonia really came though with that song. One jury vote i MAJOR disagreed with though was Iceland. MFING satanic BOP. Deserved more imo.
@louieeaston11892 роки тому
It was very much a copy of Finland the previous year, so they strongly criticised it.
@jules18202 роки тому
@@somethung8188 Iceland 2019 was awesome!! Glad the public votes saved them :)
@Guitar_Lab2 роки тому
Aminata deserved way more, currently my favorite eurovision song
@autumn36862 роки тому
Still not over il Volo and I know it's been 6 years, but...
@marius92742 роки тому
Could you please make a video with the smallest gaps between juries and televotes? 🙏
@Benji8772 роки тому
Great Britain, Jury 0 votes Tele 0 Votes
@Hugo-gc8jmРік тому
2018 was really wierd how can Austria and Sweden with average pop songs (and the Swedish guy sining off key) made that much points in juries ??? especially that year when we had so many great songs ... I always feel bad for Italy, Denmark, Czechia etc..
@owendy2742 роки тому
If ive seen anything, its this Jury cares about the song quality, Tele cares about staging and cool/ weird it is
@lilisheridan96222 роки тому
Il Volo 😭😭😭
@ronweasley65852 роки тому
actually jury fix and ruins. this %50-50 system is the best one for sure
@Lui_RG2 роки тому
where did yoy get Eurovision 2018 in 60fps? :o
@isaw9969Рік тому
you can really see that the public likes more original soundig songs, while the juries jsut vote for any ballad/basic pop song...
@jatojo2 роки тому
Denmark 2021 got around 9 times more televotes than jury votes. That difference is bigger than that of Keiino.
@damiandelong48812 роки тому
So if some country get 10 points from tele and 1 from jury that means it is the most robbed song in ESC history? 10 times more votes from public...Where is your logic?
@jatojo2 роки тому
@@damiandelong4881 No, I didn't say that, did I?
@damiandelong48812 роки тому
@@jatojo U did ?
@jatojo2 роки тому
@@damiandelong4881 Did what?
@FoxyCS_Рік тому
now do one with 2022 results :)
@jerardlabrador2911Рік тому
i find it insane that despite ukraine 2022 receiving 432 televote points, it would still be behind norway 2019 in terms of the jury-televote difference
@mb-176Рік тому
Two televote-driven additions to the top 10: Ukraine takes second place after Keiino and Moldova would be 6th between Michal and Sergey
@snypi3.142 роки тому
Except for Malta 2021 and Italy 2012 I agree with the televote
@mackan2712 роки тому
Can they not lower the score the jury gets to 25% or at most 33, 50 is riddiculous
@noelbrakaj89412 роки тому
just watch the other video, its well balanced both fucked up many times
norway 2015 was so robbed by the televote, sometimes juries rlly are needed
@mikey_strange2 роки тому
Norway 2015 is probably the song I go back to the most from that year. It's so good
@Hugo-gc8jmРік тому
Sad that we never got the 2013 detailled resultats .... i really wonder why
@gg454lune2 роки тому
0:14 0:28 4:47 I'm trying very hard not to hate televoting right now. 3:31 Juries, what happened there? And come on, only 7 points for "Friend of a friend" and 2 for "Don't come easy"?
@isaw9969Рік тому
Melovin was SO good
@user-ng7dp7fe7c11 місяців тому
See how the juries always vote for the worse, most forgettable songs? Babushkas and go-a are my personal top from this ranking (with il volo and keiino) but they all deserved so much better
@2222hottiee11 місяців тому
Finland this year
@mint17762 роки тому
2016 was a wild year lmao
@MrAndreasDK12 роки тому
2:08 Did they recieve 132 points from the juries, or was there a difference of 120 points?
@crabrave89792 роки тому
Both-
@bowser11662 роки тому
I guess the difference was only 117?
@MrAndreasDK12 роки тому
I have checked it, and The Netherlands recieved 135 points from the juries, so the difference was 120.
@eurovisiontszai91252 роки тому
And they still failed to reach top 10 :( (WTF that Norweigian mask man went through instead)
@bowser11662 роки тому
@@eurovisiontszai9125 He was great as well.
@chiarad42042 роки тому
Party for everybody. Dance.
@nicorobin58642 роки тому
The jury vote is necessary for songs like "Quédate conmigo", "Sound of silence" or "Proud", what we don't need are countries voting for their neighbors or those who like them better just because.
@robertcepo15052 роки тому
What we don't need are juries that are mostly equally partial as televote. And we don't need juries that destroy potential winners like Norway 2019. This show is for the people. 20 thousand people in a country have to spend 10 euros each voting for someone just to have 5 jury members destroy that. In most cases they are some one hit wonders or singers from 70s that don't get todays music.
@PanfuSerenity2 роки тому
@@robertcepo1505 Couldn't agree more. I looked up the jury members for my country (Finland) for the last 8 years, and while there're some household names (like 4 tho, so not many -_-) and I can understand the ones that googling told have qualifications like PhD in Musical Arts, or songwriters that don't themselves perform, most were either radio DJs, questionably qualified journos, backing vocalists in past Finnish entries (which reinforces the trend of boring ESC staples getting way too much jury points) or small-time never-heard-of-them-or-anyone-they-produced producers.
@cuteuser6719Рік тому
@@robertcepo1505 Agreed 👏. I dont see anything wrong with voting for neightbour countries. Besides, jury votes for neighbour countries too (especially Spain-Portugal, Cyprus-Greece, ...) and jury mostly votes politically, not based on music. The show is for people to decide. Jury robbed Poland 2016 😠 and also what we dont need is some countries passing automatically to finals.
@jackedwards44772 роки тому
Lake Malawi got 7 points WTF?!?!?
@paulorodrigues59872 роки тому
Go_A Shum was so robbed by jury i thought this was top 3
@bilaakisРік тому
After all everyone reaching Eurovision are winners Sometimes the tele-voting not really equal the reality 2 of the songs that got bad score from tele are now on top 50 of all time played Eurovision songs Dance You Off with Benjamin Ingrosso and To Late For Love with John Ludvik And 2 are in Top 100 all’s time played Eurovision songs Je Me Casse with Destiny And Sound of Silence with Dami Im So in the long run they are winners
@keegan292 роки тому
221-105=115... wait, what
@PlatinSam2 роки тому
Sorry jury score is 106.
@AngrykK2 роки тому
Seems like juries dont love eastern europe but public does
@emmaeriksson71552 роки тому
Oh my goodness 😂
@michaeltaks67992 роки тому
Love of Lies here
@FranscescaStam2 роки тому
Lake malawi tho🥺 i loved them
@12irissu142 роки тому
My Favorites: Lie To Me (Czech Republic 2018) - 6 Pionts Popular (Sweden 2011) - 6 Pionts Don't Come Easy (Australia 2017) - 6 Pionts New Tomorrow (Denmark 2011) - 6 Pionts I Can (UK 2011) - 6 Pionts Love Me Back (Turkey 2012) - 8 Points Yodel It (Romania, 2017) - 8 Points Hey, Mamma (Maldova 2017) - 8 Points Je Me Casse (Malta 2021) - 8 Points Lights and Shadows (The Netherlands 2017) - 8 Points Allez Ola Ole (France 2010) - 10 Points Too Late For Love (Sweden 2019) - 10 Points Proud (North Macedonia 2019) - 10 Points Sound Of Silence (Australia 2016) - 10 Points Friend of A Friend (Czech Republic 2019) - 10 Points Discoteque (Lithuania 2021) - 10 Points Dark Side (Finland 2021) - 12 Points City Lights (Belgium 2017) - 12 Points Higher Ground (Denmark 2018) - 12 Points Growing up Is Getting Old (Bulgaria 2021) - 12 Points Under The Ladder (Ukraine 2018) - 12 Points Zitti E Buoni (Italy 2021) - 12 Points
@leopotato5502 роки тому
me liking the jury more 💀
@smallblueangel2 роки тому
still mad about Il volo and Keiino
@Thomas-xh6mb2 роки тому
Norway 2019's difference of votes is the biggest crime ever
@Mosomaci.2 роки тому
Hungary 2017????? 152tele 48 jury???? where joci papai????
@cro8sandy11 місяців тому
I voted for Harel
@ljuc11 місяців тому
Poland 2016...
@igroro9072 роки тому
thank god we have the jury
@ilonaserafin86062 роки тому
Poland 2016 was robbed
@filipinamoskot57992 роки тому
Definitely
@tosvus11 місяців тому
Norway this year is 164... and Finland 226...
@pridemoth_2 роки тому
Keiino were robbed so hard by the jury, I'm still mad about it
I always said that in 2018 jury made a terrible mistake, how could they get 200+ points to dance you off and only 59 to Italy's song.... They normally read the lyrics, but in that occasion they only watched a dancing boy. And I don't speak about KEiiNO and Michal.... Embarrassing
@MrDelvoye2 роки тому
The jury should be 25/100.
@owenfitzgerald59282 роки тому
I swear the juries this year were deaf
@jaersonestera5276Рік тому
To say juries shouldn't exist, didn't you remember how Eurovision destroyed its reputation in 2000s?
@Drum1_F2 роки тому
Conta solo il televoto, perché è la gente che compra i dischi e va ai concerti.
@irinapilipchuk74792 роки тому
Jury and televote 50/50 it's a perfect voting system
@Gaons.hair_2 роки тому
Norway 2019. Won televotes got only like 40 from jury.. BTW I didn't watch the whole video when I said this
@alaskanalpaka2 роки тому
Keiino was so robbed
@weiss11282 роки тому
Yodel it was amazing
@shpadoinklely52322 роки тому
the jury ROBBED KEiiNO
@applecookie53332 роки тому
Buranovskiye Babushki should've won in my opinion.
@nexahs12 роки тому
2015 and 2016 juries were a joke.
@huwawej11 місяців тому
michał szpak is on 1st place- PERIOD he literally got so robbed by jury, cuz like, 7 points? wtf
@bloodygemini66672 роки тому
Make tele voting great again! 🥴
@marinaandreas5650Рік тому
Hmmm it's obvious over the last 10 years juries tend to overrate Australia, Sweden, Spain, France, Austria, and Malta and underrate Russia, Ukraine, Italy, Poland, and some smaller countries while the public tends to overrate Ukraine, Italy, Poland, and pound Malta, Australia, UK, Germany and Belgium.
@DaveVampireSlayer2 роки тому
Mmmm.... first place...... Yes, Norway 2019!
@Bai1832 роки тому
dami im was robbed so hard
@pedrofonseca42332 роки тому
stop copying alexesc
@user-cr7kr3pg4q2 роки тому
Malta and Finland would have deserved better :(
@enricagiordano80612 роки тому
Why juries hate Russia?
@KD_OliveiraРік тому
OK, can we make an petition for Jury Show to be terminated, so the juries have to vote at the same day and time with the public? A lot of these discrepancies happens cuz the juries are not watching the same show than us, so like... one fateful technical issue in the Jury day (#JusticeForKeiino) and then the favorites of the year are basicallly cutted in the ankle, and the audience never understands why.
@rakso98382 роки тому
The jury system is the main reason Eurovision receives so much hate. It makes the show more politically charged as some countries will never vote for another one based of their history. If this show only had public voting I believe the show would be more popular
@YTN11122 роки тому
Sorry to say this but.... Eurovision did have a period in the 2000’s where it was TELEVOTE ONLY. It sucked AF..... the voting was even more political during that time and joke songs almost won making Eurovision a joke to many(which ruins ratings). There was a song that begged people to vote for them in that time and they got 6th....wtf.... It almost totally ruined Eurovision as many countries threatened to quit entirely in 2007-2009, and a bold statement was made by the UK commentator that the jury system had to come back. In 2009, it came back and it basically saved Eurovision’s butt. The song quality between 2007/2008 and 2009 was a night and day difference. You may not like Juries, but they are here FOR A REASON. This 50/50 split is perfect for this reason, as in order to win you most appeal both to Juries, and the public, fail on either, and you won’t win but doing well in 1 puts you in a good placement overall.
@rakso98382 роки тому
@@YTN1112 You raise a good point. I simply just don't understand how these juries rate which songs are good or not. There are instances where a song barely gets any votes from the public but is somehow given a very large amount of points from the jury. The same can be said for vice versa
@ilanf22 роки тому
@@rakso9838 A good example of what Juries look foward to is 2019. North Macedonia was a very strong vocal performance with decent lyrics, so most juries appreciated the artistic elements of the song (you still had the political cases like Cyprus/Greece). Those elements usually are not what the public looks forward too, being a good reason why Norway won the public. Duncan won that year because he had a good enough appeal for both sides. Italy was the closest one that year with that good appeal for both sides, since the rest of the top 10 had a very split jury vs public rankings.
@Massiiiiiiii2 роки тому
The jury should not exist!!! Only televoting!!!
@woodymcsackschwei5619Рік тому
Jury has too much power
@shybluechildРік тому
the jury is always on the wrong
@noahpleing2.011 місяців тому
Kalush second place and they won 😂
@kristie82452 роки тому
I will say this every time I see it, but KEiiNO was ROBBED by the evil juries.